Joe and Jada - Jeff Hamilton breaks down Kobe's ICONIC jacket photo & drops gems on fashion world

Episode Date: February 14, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are back with a SPECIAL episode with celebrity designer Jeff Hamilton, who's responsible for some of the flyest jackets of the past 30 years. Jeff tells Joe and Jada about his car...eer crafting iconic jackets for Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, his early years hustling to make it big in the fashion industry, and his upcoming work for the FIFA World Cup. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is your boy Joe Crack to Dawn. You know who it is, your boy Jada. Know what it is the Joe and Jada show. Man, every show legendary, every show iconic. And we stick to our word. No matter what it is, music, fashion, sports, lifestyle. When you think of our guest today, you think of that fly shit, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Think of the early 90s, late 80s. I think of Mark 125. I think of Genesis. I think a surgeon all around the city looking. You know what I mean? Sometimes I would find it. Sometimes I would come up short. When you just think of fly, you think of the NBA,
Starting point is 00:03:12 And you think of all major league sports, and you think of winners, because you see his logos and his leathers whenever there's winning involved. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guest, Jeff Hamilton. Great to be here. Welcome to the couch, my friend.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Thank you for having an honor to be with two legends like you guys. What is that? What kind of leather is that, right? This is my corporate. look, it's my crocodile jacket. My black leather So this is the most elite level of leather. It's a crocodile leather, right?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Correct? You can't go bigger than that. That's the most expensive, yeah. That's kind of like you don't have to even put designs on it. I actually did a jacket for Farrell that had all crocodile and designs on it, Virginia Beach one. That was a different level. You know, as I'm looking to you, right,
Starting point is 00:04:16 Good friend. I'm thinking to Kobe Bryant, right? That Kobe Bryant jacket that he wore when he won the chip. How did you get that to him and how did that even happen? It was a fierce process. You know, the whole thing started with Michael. So in Michael Jordan, in 91, when he won the first championship, I said, you know, I really want to make him a championship jacket.
Starting point is 00:04:43 This way when he wins it, you know, everybody has a T-shirt. and the hat, but nobody thought about the jacket. So I said, let me just have the jacket, because on the jacket, you really could tell a whole story. And also, you get kind of the idea of getting the trophy or the ring without having to wait five months to get the ring. So you get kind of a moment of instant gratification when you win and you get the jacket. And so it happened slowly with Michael.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And Michael expected every year when he champ, as soon as he pulled up to the, to the, to the locker room. I was right there with the jacket and put it on. And it just went viral in Chicago. In the 90s, that's all people wanted. They only wanted my championship jackets. And Kobe being such a student of the game and such a student of Michael
Starting point is 00:05:33 just took it to a different level. So in 2021, the first championship with the Lakers, his first championship, he had it. We had the moments, the locker room. But the second year in Philly, It became so iconic because, and Jeddah, as you did the pose when you did the verses, I mean, that pose became iconic. There was a moment in time that was frozen, being a kid from Philly and loving the Sixers,
Starting point is 00:06:03 growing up with his dad playing for the Sixers, and being booed the whole night and still winning. And also knowing that his parents were not in the sense, you know, looking at him winning. which is the biggest moment of his life, a back-to-back championship. And so he had that meditative moment. And so he wanted to isolate himself. And he took the trophy and went to showers, locked himself out.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And nobody knew where he was. So I knew better to follow the great Andy Bernstein, the Hall of Famer photographer, because he had all his team looking for the trophy. And we walked into the room and there was only three people, just all three. And he was there, like, dreaming. And that moment was frozen in my mind forever.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And, of course, everybody showed up. And that just became the most iconic picture of fashion sports history. You know, I think everybody's trying to emulate that picture. And I think it's had rappers make the album cover like that. Yeah. Annuel. Annuel did it. Annuel.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Anuel did it. Wow. Wow. Did the cover of the... Patrick Mahomes. Leo Messi Caitlin Clark LeBron did it
Starting point is 00:07:22 with the 2020 championship so it's been and I've been also pushing it in a way I mean you did it with the versus so Jadad
Starting point is 00:07:30 so the idea is that it became it's a symbol also of winning but also reflecting and embracing the moment and taking a pause and not being in
Starting point is 00:07:43 the champagne and the whole thing you can do that after But that moment was, isolate all the hard work that you put in for a year and the hard labor to get to win that championship. And then just take a little few seconds to enjoy it. So you was in retail in New York, right?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Did you always just have your jackets or you decided I'm going to make my own, the Jeff Hamilton? When I moved to America in 1980, I moved a wife and two kids. I married when I was 19, I was 24. I just turned 70 and I came with $6,000. And my dream was to become an accountant. And I love numbers.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And I was, I mean, I was a smart kid because I was a nerd. So I was a good student. And one thing, but I also was a hustler. I wanted to make money. I really was chasing money. I care, but wanting to come as an immigrant and try to, I came with no papers, illegal, tried to find my way. I stumbled upon some people that were studying a new.
Starting point is 00:08:46 brand and and I said I didn't have any experience of designing never designed a thing in my life didn't know about patterns you know about management of a business and and I got the rights to do the menswear for a new brand that just came out in the market and that was guest jeans so I found it I was a first licensee of guest jeans for men I founded the first the company that that was doing it and with at the time with 20 grand that I started in 1983 to the company to seven $25 million in two years. But I was a kid. I was in my 20s.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I mean, I was just, I didn't even know how to handle it. I barely spoke English. I mean, thank God I spoke Spanish because I was my first language, being born in Morocco and French, and I managed my way through to doing it. And I really just really was not a plan of me to do it like I'm doing it constantly right now, to stay in the culture and do things because I'm passionate about it and really not shaking the money.
Starting point is 00:09:42 At the time, it was all about, I need to just make a difference. every older haters, including family members, you know, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that so many friends with the kids and with my babies at the time. And, and, uh, you know, my son is 48, you know, it's not like kids. And, and, and, and, and going out and, and succeeding was, like, a sweet kind of moment for me to, just to do it. You know, you know, I see work hard. Like, I work hard, right? And I admire other people that work hard. And now, you know, you up there. and age, but one day I see you in LA, one day I see you Miami, one day I see you in France, one day I see you this. And I'm like, man, this guy, you really are the true definition of a hustler and working hard. What motivates you now to work that part?
Starting point is 00:10:34 I often said the main reason why I am where I am right now is because of the failures. You know, the dark times were the best time in my life. When I suffered, not long. I mean, when I lost everything, a few years back, after all those things and the marriages and divorces and, you know, the partners screwing up and you reflect on those moments and you understand that all we can do is do the best thing that we can do. Every day, wake up, we have the will, power that God gave us for us to work as hard as we want to do, never take anything for granted, being respectful to people, being as good as you can. And also, So we're lucky.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I mean, we're blessed to know that we wake up every morning doing the things that we are getting paid to do what we love. I mean, if Michael Jordan was not worth a few billion dollars and it was not Michael Jordan, he'll be in his backyard shooting baskets because that's what we do. I'm shooting basket every day myself. And I'm happy every morning that I do. And I don't care if it's a wine jacket, we'll make a few hundred dollars or it's going to be a thousand jackets. I work and address everything with the same way. I don't care if I'm dealing with a big celebrity or I'm dealing with a busboy.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I treat everybody the same and with respect and integrity. Do you get more respect now than when you was doing it earlier? Much more, yeah. I took it for granted. I mean, that's why pretty much also I lost everything is because I took it for granted. I thought that was the man. I mean, I thought I'm in my 20s. I'm making six, seven million dollars a year.
Starting point is 00:12:15 You know, I'm doing seven million, five million dollars in sales. And I'm like with Billy Idol and I'm with Muganz and Roses. And I'm here with Andrew Dice Clay. And I'm here with James Kahn. And I think I'm believing my own bullshit. Then at that point, you know, then somebody like God comes in and taps you on the show and say, well, wake up, you know, you're nothing. You're just simply a channel of the energy that I'm giving you.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So follow the rules. And when you're young, you don't know. You don't have the experience. And we made mistakes. And learning from you mistakes are the good signs. And you start appreciating that. Let your darkest moments bring your most clarity. You'll learn who's really your friends, who really got your back.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And like you said, you know, God gives you these lessons. And you got to absorb it. And you got to say, oh, I got to change this. to that a step on game up. But not everybody does it. You know, you get the fall and you get up and people don't learn that lesson. And many times I fell and got up and I made the same mistakes and fell back again. But there's a moment there was a shift when it was 64 years old to make a comeback.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Actually, when you and I met at that wallies in L.A., you know, and I reached out to you, like on Instagram, I say, I want to meet you, I want to see you. there was a shift there that I felt like it was, I'm changing it, I'm learning from my mistakes and I want to be better. I want to be, and I understand that there was, up to that point, I never saw myself having a place in the culture, which I respected from day one. I stayed consistent from day one and I stayed in one lane.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I never went for the big money and the big sellouts of different things. And even when I did NASCAR, which was anti-culture in a way, like because it was such not, you don't think that the kids in the street would wear a NASCAR stuff. I brought it to the streets and where it became, everybody was wearing the M&Ms and the tides
Starting point is 00:14:22 and the Dallan Heart stuff. And people had no idea that Dallanard was bigger than Michael Jordan at the time, you know, as far as a certain segment of the population. And that realization for me to understand when I started coming in in like six, five, six years ago and going to
Starting point is 00:14:41 except uh, Esa, uh, Esa, Yams, uh, like they,
Starting point is 00:14:48 they in Brooklyn at Brackley Center and and young kids 17 years old that, you know, that we're not even born when, when Kobe had that moment.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And I say, what's up, legend, such an honor to me. For what? I mean, I only did it
Starting point is 00:15:03 for the money at the time. And I started appreciating more that's, and it was an ego stuff. And when people come and ask me to a picture, they think I make them happy. They don't understand that they making me happy.
Starting point is 00:15:13 They basically a validation of all the hard work and passion that put behind it they give me the seal of the stand-up approval
Starting point is 00:15:21 for all of us what we do. That's how I feel when I see Jeff Hamilton I feel like Jeff Hamilton. You know what I'm saying? That's just me.
Starting point is 00:15:30 You know what I see? It's like a roller. His Jagger's like a roller. It's like you made it when you got a Jeff Hamilton. Oh, yeah. You feel like because you said,
Starting point is 00:15:39 because you you said Genesis and this. you had to have money to walk in Genesis and buy real leather. Like, there was levels. You had Jew man, you had the last year, then you get the Genesis,
Starting point is 00:15:51 then you get to another level. Who are some of the designers that you seen come up? And you had no clue they were going to get big like that, and you was like, wow. I mean, the easiest one is, this is the first bell that Chrome Heart ever made.
Starting point is 00:16:06 First one ever. Oh, that's the first. Like top five, one. I mean, I probably, this is like, I mean, I've been offered. stupid money for that. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, Richard,
Starting point is 00:16:16 you know, when I had guest jeans, I mean, he was a salesman that was selling me leather. So because I came out at the time in the 80s, when I came, I wanted to make the denim, so I wanted to do something different. So I made the denim jeans
Starting point is 00:16:28 with the leather parts of part of it. I did the jackets with the leather on it, which nobody had done. So I was buying crazy, crazy quantities of leather. And then he was a rap. And I loved him because he was like, riding on his Harley and coming to the office with a long hair. My hair was long. We were all rock and rollers. And I'd rather give him the business that had given the business to the guys from
Starting point is 00:16:50 back east. The white dudes that were all square with a suit and tie. And it was just like, I felt it. And just mind you, I'm like 25 years old. And I'm running out 400 employees working. And I'm learning every day on the business because like I said, I didn't know how to design. I became a designer by necessity because I didn't like the way the people were doing it. So I went to my closet and I stopped pulling stuff out and tried styling myself and I said, I don't want to do that. I like that pocket.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I want to do that pocket on that gene and I start creating stuff. And then, of course, organically became more an urban brand for me. You know, I never, even though the guests wanted to be more department stores, sacks, Bloomingdale's, you know, name and marketing. Myself, I started selling stuff in Detroit and in the malls. There was all the guys with the fur coats and the jewelry way before. Detroit players.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, real players. And then we just started getting that. And it just became viral. And we had no Instagram. We had no advertising. Everything just came from word of mouth. And because we had the first one to do like fashion crazy sizes and stuff like that. So Chrome Arts is probably the biggest one that I saw around.
Starting point is 00:18:07 and they well deserved because I mean it's beautiful what they've done and the hype that they've done I mean, but it was like guys like true religion. They worked for me. I mean, seven genes that work for me. Citizens of humanity.
Starting point is 00:18:23 They work for me. I've worked with the guys from Jay Brand. I mean, all those guys on one point of time, they all have touched all those guys, you know, like even the gallery department. I mean, he was myself, right, that were
Starting point is 00:18:37 I was buying, you know, Ralph Lauren, who is my favorite designer, by the way, still is my favorite designer is Ralph Lauren. And for me, it's like the goat of goats when it comes to fashion. I'd like to think that I had my imprinted a bit all along the way with a lot of designers. There's always a point of reference that I have. I mean, it's just a 45-year career that I've had. And still working 15 hours a day, seven days a week. And I'll go out.
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Starting point is 00:24:46 Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's something you got coming out that big? The biggest thing I have, I think, is probably the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You know, the World Cup, so I have a Brillboor Rice from the World Cup. So that's pretty big. One of the World Cup jackets, man. We need an inside. He's going to get you. He got you.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Let me tell you said, Jeff Hamilton, always picks up by my call. Like, like, like, you're right about it. No, no, he always picks up. What's up, brother? What's going on? I'm like, yo, where you are? He said, I'm in Italy right now, but what do you need, Joe?
Starting point is 00:25:32 I say, y'all need a white jacket. It's coming your way, Joe. Don't worry about it. I mean, always accessible, always a hard grind. I tell people, when you're not aware, it has nothing to do with you. I can be driving in my car. And I think about you.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Because I'm 55. And we all hustle. He works hard too, because you can't make excuses. The bills come no matter what. So, but often, I just think, and I think of you, I've never seen nobody. Your age, work as hard as you. I just have never seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I feel like I'm 30 years old. I act like I'm 30 years old. I just enjoy every second. Like if I, if I would, I don't move differently that if I was 30 years old. The other thing I don't do is that I won't ride motorcycles. I won't really exercise. I eat right. I walk.
Starting point is 00:26:25 You know, I'm just, I'm very careful. You might not get married again, right? I just, you know. No, no, no, no. Don't lose the World Cup. Don't give up half of the World Cup, man. Come on. They'll just stop.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You got to learn from your mistake. Your lessons. I have a great relationship with my ex-wife. You got to learn from the lesson. Don't do that, please. I'm blessed with my grandkids and just, you know, it's a blessing for me to be at this stage of my life.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So you're originally from Morocco? I'm Jewish, born in Morocco. So I'm an official African-American. But I moved to Paris when it was 11 years old. I moved to America. I was 24. So you don't know the little guy from Maccadesh. It's a little man this small.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah. From Maccadish. Marrakesh. Marrakech. French Martana knows him. It's a little guy. I don't know him. You know, we got to bring this guy
Starting point is 00:27:24 if he could get a visa or something. Yo, I got to bring him. I pay for it. Let's find a little guy. I want to fly. He's a guy. There's a little man. You ever seen this?
Starting point is 00:27:36 I met one little man like that in, in Abu Dhabi, the Turkish kid. You're talking about Asphel. Asphel's a little bit tall. I'm talking about little man. I stills a little man. Those are my guys.
Starting point is 00:27:52 In Santo Domingo, they had a guy named Nelson, little guy like this. He used to party with us. Jump on the table, jump on the chair, jump on. Nah, this shit crazy. You met Australia. Ostroth's the man, but Ostroth's a little bit bigger than these guys. These guys are like really, you know, French knows the guy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like on horror they have Biddle Jews. No, Peter This is great The greatest, right? Howard Stern is probably the first original legendary podcast For sure, yeah
Starting point is 00:28:26 Like he had He was doing whatever the fuck He wanted And guess what It still does I mean Still doing it And he still goes to the bank
Starting point is 00:28:36 Regularly Like they He gets the bags Like nobody I think the girl What's the girl Robin and robin Rubbin
Starting point is 00:28:43 Crimmis He made 10 million a year Like Robin gets the bag. Or more, right? But, you know, listen, they have the audience. They have the stuff that they do. And, you know, they have the ups and downs. But I've done stuff with him since the 90s when he was not even, like, syndicated everywhere.
Starting point is 00:29:00 So first time he called me and I had made a jacket for Slash for Guns and Roses. So I want to make me the same exact jacket. But instead of having the top hat and the hair and the guns, I want to do my long hair, a skeleton of my face and I want two microphones. And he came in and he came into my hotel and I delivered the jack
Starting point is 00:29:21 and he put the big checkbook. Remember we had the three-part checkbooks and he put it in the checkbook, wrote the check, carried the balance and he did the hole himself. And he answered his own phone and he won't think. It's just like very... Hey, listen, the first investment I ever made like investment like in stocks...
Starting point is 00:29:39 Seriously? When... I don't even know where it's sad. Like Howard Stern went to Sirius XM, I might have do $40,000. I said, oh, no, this is going to be a big stock. You know, I'm not a stock guy. I don't really do stocks like that. But that's the one stock I bought.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Now, I don't even know where to find that shit right now. I don't know. Money, not. It's something there. There's something there. It's something there. I don't know what it is. But Howard Stern, you know, he's a legend in the game.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Just like you, the World Cup is going to be crazy. they said they're charging $200. They're taking over every parking spot. You heard about that? They said they're taking over every parking place, every parking lot and every car that lease is $200 a lot to let you know off rent. On the platform, I was looking the other day
Starting point is 00:30:32 we were talking about the World Cup. The average ticket test, like a good seat was $11,000 to take it. 11? Yeah, there's 104 games, 16 different cities. 48 countries 48 countries I went to the World Cup in Qatar
Starting point is 00:30:49 Qatar yeah I'm saying and there was 36 teams that was 36 teams now it's like it's a month and a half it's going to revolution and it's three countries
Starting point is 00:30:58 Mexico three cities in Mexico two in Canada and 11 in the States it's gonna be here yeah it's going to be MetLife it's going to be the finals
Starting point is 00:31:06 The finals is in New York yeah we got to go so we're having a lot A lot of pop-ups. We know fucking Jeff Hamilton can get us in that. A lot of stores you're going to be opening, a lot of pop-ups with that. So I'm doing a lot of stuff for doing, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:20 hopefully some big collaboration coming up with that also. Shout out to Haiti in the World Cup. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They got in for the first time. They've been through so much, you know what I mean? Just the fact that they can represent the country out there in the World Cup is an amazing thing. Jeff Hamilton, man.
Starting point is 00:31:38 We never had a fashion icon on this show. We was excited to do this I know you got to get going man We love you brother Keep putting your name out there Keep doing your thing Keep smiling Now you're always smiling man
Starting point is 00:31:54 But let me tell you something You just stepped my game up Because now Because I got a problem I got a fashion problem I spend too much money I love it too much But now you made me
Starting point is 00:32:06 I got some crocodiles But now because you told me is the most expensive, I'm gonna start looking for some crocodile with a fur. I need to come in here with the glowing the dark crocodile. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:21 I take it to that. Because, you know, it's certain things self-explanatory. Right? No. We're a crocodile, they already know what it is. Yeah, certain things he said. You don't need the fur.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You should be the mouse, though. You don't need the logo. You don't need anything. You don't need nothing. You need the right croaker, though. You know what I did? I'm not going to say the designer. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:47 You can say the designer. No, no, I don't want to say it, right? Because he's a nice guy, but I called this guy. You want me to say it? Okay. So I went to do a show for Philip Pline. Right. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Oh, my God. That's your guy. I take it back. Philip Pline looks like the richest guy in the world, right? And he probably is, right? But he told me, he took me to the story, he said, anything you want, Joe, and it was a crocodile. I said, I don't know, Joe, nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Anything but that. I said, Philip Blime, you're the richest guy in the world. You told me to pick. He said, Joe, this is my show piece. He said, you take that. I have nothing to show. Like, this is everything. I would say, yo, but, you know, I went for the best.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I went for the gusto. I went for the big. I did one for Arnold's just. Heson through Beijon, and that was $150,000 for, like, like, a blazer. Crocodile? Crockettado. Even, even, like, something like that, like, that directly would be, like, $35,40,000. You should have saw this guy earlier, had the camouflage, the trench coat to the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what a little prognada. He got that's a lot. It's a little bit. Down to your ankle. That's what I'm talking about. That was, that was really good.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That looked good. The whole fit, yeah. The whole fit was crazy, right? You know, sometimes, you know, like the other day, something I'm a big fan of, we are, is Bo Tager. Yeah, me too. Botega, a lot of urban don't understand Botega like that.
Starting point is 00:34:18 They don't know what that thing is, right? Now they're starting. Yeah, they're starting to know. You got scammers, hustling. You got people always want, like me, I just said, you know, the crap, I got to get the best. You got guys who want the best, no matter what it is. They're like, oh, that's the shit I need to get.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And so that woven print, that moving fabric beautiful. I've seen Cardi B at the football game with the Burgundy and then she had all the way down to the boots all the way down to the... Even the sunglasses are beautiful.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I mean, I just, you know, they're beautiful stuff. I mean, but the key when it comes to branding and fashion branding and luxury branding is number one, you have to flex for yourself. You're buying it because you love it yourself. You know, if you love it yourself
Starting point is 00:35:05 and you put it on yourself and you feel good when you look at stuff in the mirror. Then you're 98% 99% of the game is done. Of course, you want people to see your watch and you step. I can tell you something.
Starting point is 00:35:17 But it has to become from you to become authentic to come from you. We like the dress. And then people follow up and then people recognize it. You know, let me tell you something, Jeff. Right. Because I have a real problem
Starting point is 00:35:30 with fashion and spending money on fashion. I've spent so much money on fashion. But one place I've always been able to walk out of. Fendi furs, to me are the best furs, the best. I don't want to say I could never afford it, but it's so expensive. I never pulled the trigger.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I have walked out the store, seeing stuff that I really want. And I said, walked it off and went out. But recently, maybe like a month ago, I finally bought my Fendi fur. And it felt so good. I felt like I accomplished something in life. That's for you. I mean, after everything I ever bought in my life,
Starting point is 00:36:13 I started bragging to people. I was like, I did it. And they was like, say y'all, Jim Jones' wife, Chrissy, my sister. I said, Chrissy, man. She was at my house with my wife. I said, Chrissy, I did it. She said, what you mean?
Starting point is 00:36:25 I said, maybe 20 years. I walked out of Fendi. I loved every fur, but never pulled the trick. I said, I fucking pulled the trick. trigger. And she said, yeah, Joe, you took it to the max. I said, yeah, I took it to the max. Listen, the best thing about Jeff Hamilton is everything quality. Every jacket I ever got from you is just supreme quality. You know it's quality times. And, you know, you put in so much work in the game that people got to salute you and just be like, you know, and everything comes back.
Starting point is 00:37:00 right in fashion. Nowadays, my daughter dresses, my nephew's dress and they try to show me stuff that we wore in 92. And be like, yo, this is the new wave. We got the fly. I'd be like, yo, hold on the flag.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Like, y'all, oh, not, man. I took, you know what I did the other day? Somebody. I can't. Okay. Somebody wore this beautiful fur. A white. white fur, right?
Starting point is 00:37:32 I'll tell you, is A. Sap Ferg, right, who I love very much. He wore this, he did it right. He wore this white mink to his ankle with their visus and all that.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And I went to looking through my pictures because I remember I wore that white mink before back like 20-something years ago. I said, Corterell, my stylist. I see, your T.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Do you remember the time I rocked a white mink? He was like, yes, brother. That was like the day before the MTV or the Grammys. We looked for that. And I found that fucking picture
Starting point is 00:38:02 where I wore that white mink. I said, yeah, I wore that shit before. Like, I just knew. But we love getting fly. We love staying fresh. You know, rest of peace, my brother, Clark Kent. He had this thing. I think it was called
Starting point is 00:38:18 Addicted to Fresh. And he'd be like, y'all, I don't care. I'm just addicted to fresh. And you, my friend, Jeff Hamilton, are addicted to fresh. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kids. Make some noise for Jeff Hamilton.
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