Joe and Jada - Joakim Noah talks Bulls & Derrick Rose NBA MVP prime, Knicks & LeBron's future

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by 2x NBA All-Star Joakim Noah. Noah tells Joe and Jada about his career journey, from his legendary Florida Gators squad with Al Horford, Billy Donovan, and Corey Brew...er that won back-to-back-to-back NCAA college basketball titles (the same era where Tim Tebow and Aaron Hernandez were winning championships in football), to his years playing alongside NBA MVP Derrick Rose on the Chicago Bulls, to his two-year stint with Carmelo Anthony and the New York Knicks. They also have in-depth discussions about New York City streetball at Rucker Park, San Antonio Spurs center Victor Wembanyama's rise to stardom, and what the Los Angeles Lakers will do with LeBron James after the recent stellar play from the Luka Doncic and Austin Reaves duo. Additionally, Joe and Jada welcome NYC streetball legend Adrian "A-Butta" Walton to discuss his new book and his advice for the new generation of ballers. Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 We was fucking shit up. It was fucking. Yo, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack, the diggity, dawn. Digler, don't play yourself. Shit, boy, Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I mean, this particular episode is going to be one of my favorites because I love sports. me. And when you think about our next guest, think about being a part of arguably one of the best college basketball teams in history. When you think about my next guest, you think of the old NBA. You think of tough defense. You think of a center that could stick all other four positions on the floor. You think of, you know, just toughness, New York grit. Think of a good person coming from a good family, a good father, good human being. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother, Joe King Noah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's an honor. It's an honor. My brother, no doubt. You know what it is. It's an honor, man. Honor to be here. We appreciate having you. I know my man, the Phil Jackson of the Rutgers over here.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He couldn't wait to have you up in. You know what I mean? You can't tell him. Nothing. He's the Greg Popovich of the street. That's right. You know? Explain something to you, man.
Starting point is 00:04:27 They asked me... Now he got a shit, your shit is mixed with Marlon Brindle now when you... You know, where you want to explain something. Ah! No, I don't mean no shit.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I don't mean no shit like that. What I'm just trying to say it's just now, people are starting to say, yo, y'all got too many guests on the show what happened to just Joe and Jeter, but what you do when legendary guys like this pull up and they're available?
Starting point is 00:04:51 We're going to put them on to Joe and... First things first. Anybody that's somebody that come to the city, you know where they're coming. Here. That's it. Yeah, Chait. I like that shit.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Anybody that come to the city. I took the plane. I took the plane to come and be on the show. Wow. They ain't flying into y'all shows. See what shit? Take the plane. He flew it.
Starting point is 00:05:16 They talk in Cam and J-Co. I know you're a fan of hip-hop. This is going to be the first show. walk off. Yo, why you want to walk off, kids? I want to get into the shit, man. You don't want to say, you can't. I'm not getting into shit.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I'm asking you, it's a hip-hop show. What do you think about this, what they're saying online, who's better cam, J. Cole, whatever the case may be. So, for me, I moved to New York City from France
Starting point is 00:05:46 in 98. To me, New York City hip-hop around that time, this shit shaped my life you know what I mean like I come to New York City I'm talking English like this with the accent and stuff
Starting point is 00:06:00 all Frenchy but then Tony Parker you know what I'm saying on some Tony Parker shit and then I get to New York City and the fucking hip hop is just going nuts
Starting point is 00:06:12 like I'm coming from France and then all of a sudden I kissed bitch ass nigga I bet the hood won't miss you bitch ass nigga you got I mean I'm like, oh, shit, the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:06:25 So I had to learn along the way, you know what I'm saying? But that was, you know, I love basketball. Next thing you know, I'm going uptown. I'm playing basketball with the guys. And New York, like, it shaped me. It shaped me. If I didn't have New York City, if I didn't have the hip hop, because the streetball and the hip hop was so connected.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And you don't see that anywhere else like that. Like, Joe, like, I remember you pulling up at the rucker. You know what I mean? You got all your guys with you. We're playing you in the chip. We lost in the chip. I missed a couple free throws at the end. O.C., but I had a question for you about that because this shit fucked me up because
Starting point is 00:07:07 they called some real bullshit on me. So did you pay the refs? Definitely butted off somebody. I need to know because this was, what, like 20 years ago? Everything I earned was legit. Okay. You know what they did to me. You're stealing an entee.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I won, I just, everything I earned was legit. You know, with me, we won five chips in a boat. On the sixth one, we got robbed. And so we was up like eight points for like 12 seconds, and they kept calling five, five, and the other team just, the crowd been waiting to see me lose. You know how people hated Kobe and all this, but when he passed away, you realized,
Starting point is 00:07:46 yo, we lost a treasure. It was like we were winning so much, So we had fans who just wanted us to lose. And when we lost and we walking out the park, they barely even celebrated it. It was like, not like this. So I know what you felt like, but we didn't, I left because I was getting disrespected at the worker.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I would have stood for 20 years. But they start doing shit, y'all, only two people could come in, oh, this, this. I'm like, yo, I don't know if they know. We get in this park lit. No what I'm saying? But they robbed me the one year I lost, and we came back to next year.
Starting point is 00:08:19 We blew them out, paused in the arm championship. You know, and I got on the mic, I got real nasty with him because, you know, that coaching really was my life. You know, I tell everybody, when I die, that casket, got to go through the rucker, you know what I'm saying? You know how it goes through your neighborhood? Because I had some of the greatest years of my life. But you didn't answer the question, Jay Cole and Cameron.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You're just saying New York's shaping your life. I mean, killer, man. This is. Yeah, this is okay. I mean, it's like, big pun. I remember I come to New York. I'm listening to, and I know you from where? Elementary school.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'm like, oh, shit, yo, this is different. Different. It's a different area. You know, our kids, the youth, they're being very disrespectful. And they're like, fuck you, you old motherfuckers. And I had some of my nephew style on me with clothes I wore in videos in Flojo. They was like, yo, this is the new shit. We got the fly.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I see, yo, bro. We wore that shit in 94, 95. The other day, I'm looking at Joey Badass, who is a friend, who I got super love for, but he's sitting at the Nick Game course. He got the Tretch hat on. So they bring it back all the old, but the youth might look at that and be like, yo, this nigga Joey Badass wearing this shit of a lifetime. That shit is crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But, yo, guys, like, this is all recycled shit. And so, Jada, my business partner is telling me to mind my business with that, right there. No, I'm not. I'm telling you, feel free this. Yeah. I'm telling you, I'm minding my business. Why are you minding your business?
Starting point is 00:09:57 I don't get involved in it. You think if you say something? It's a lawsuit that turned into some internet shit, and we don't even know what's going on. Yeah, the lawsuit shit was kind of like, come on, man. I don't know. What's going on in 2025?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Let's talk about this. We come in the work today. I try to stop, support my brother. You know what I mean? I go to all. all of the locations, third half,
Starting point is 00:10:22 207, one-size. I stopped there to get some Timberlands for work. I go and see my man Serge Wilson. They give me one eight and a half and one ten and a half.
Starting point is 00:10:35 What is this? Up in my seat a story you can trust. They sold me one ten and a half. A brand you could trust. Yo, Jada, come on. One eight. Yo, Jada, this is global.
Starting point is 00:10:47 People coming in from all across the world. They're going to come. up in YC. Up in Y, they got everything. They gave you a 10 and a half and they gave you a 10 and a half. That's the oldest trick in the book.
Starting point is 00:10:57 10 and a half. They had to meet a quota. I must have said, yo, I need you to sell 10 pairs of Timps today and they gave it to Jeter. You see, your Jeter, he's a 12 minute eight. I'm shopping etiquette.
Starting point is 00:11:08 My etiquette is so up. When the display is 11.5 and up, they don't got my size. Now, Will goes downstairs. He's taken two of the, Long, me. Will might have, I know they don't got it.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He come back up, the box is a little bit old. You know, we got it. Cash out. I get in Jesus. You're on my good job, man. You made the quota. 10 and a half, one and a half. Yo, kiss.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Go to up and Y, C. I ain't going to lie to you, kiss. Y, I ain't going to lie to you, kiss. That's legendary. That's a legendary story. You got the most sizes. Talk to me. The best every.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Who, he entered the phone on the short. The wire hit, baby. That's a money, cool. Yeah. The Wyatt hit. The Wyatt hit. It's a big one kiss. The Wyatt.
Starting point is 00:11:57 It's a big one biggest in my life. I, I, Tran. I'm on the podcast. No, the wire hits. What kind of side deals you got? No side deals. It's just God bless America right now.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's, I've been waiting for that shit. You know, it's so hard, man. It's so much. It's almost like weight. Right? It's so hard to lose weight. It's so easy to gain It's so hard to make money
Starting point is 00:12:22 But so easy to spend this shit You know, we just got Let's not talk about no money no more Listen, you fucking with my store Up NYC How we treat you? What's the servicing up in YC? How do we get it?
Starting point is 00:12:35 I won't say my percentage off But I get treated well They treat me at home I go on the back, use the bathroom He just Wilson fucked you With the 10 and a half And the 8 and a half Yo, that's the oldest shit
Starting point is 00:12:48 They line me up because Serge telling me about this big party and flaw I'm over here talking to Serge Wilson did the old Kiss I got to be honest with you Kiss I'm not going to lie to you I think you've been lined up
Starting point is 00:13:01 I'm going to be right They lined you up They got to sell a pair of books He gave the kiss Let me tell you something We used to get it like that In our Jew man There was a store
Starting point is 00:13:11 Not being offensive to nobody Simpson Street It was a store called Jew man In the Bronx That had all the fly shit them niggas was the king of giving you a size eight and a half
Starting point is 00:13:21 and a 12 and once you leave they'd be like we sold out so you gotta pick something else you were the king of robbing you
Starting point is 00:13:27 a few stops down on the train after you buy all your snorkels all of that shit you got to I grew up in it I would have never
Starting point is 00:13:35 owned the store if it was it for Rose Teddy Sheldon all those guys they taught us the retail business Simon passed away
Starting point is 00:13:44 Melvin passed away I'd tell you one thing I was the only guy they would say, Joe, when I opened the door, you run that way as fast as possible. You see those four guys across the street, they're going to rob you. So I used to get my sneakers and have to run, like book it, run up to the train because I knew graffiti, I knew how to, like, jump off the train.
Starting point is 00:14:05 So if you follow me in the train and, you know, we stuck in the train, I know how in between the train to jump off and then run back down and get the fuck up. out of there. So that was my shit the train, but, yo, Jew man was legendary, but they got that
Starting point is 00:14:22 from there. I'm sorry about that, brother. We will replace these boots right here as soon as you blink, brother. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I got you. And we got my brother here. You got to tell me about them back there. It's hard to win one chip in anything, but they get two NC double-A
Starting point is 00:14:41 chips back. Tell us a little bit about that. Shout out to that whole team. Shout out to Coach Billy Donovan. Shout out to everybody that was involved in that. Let me hear a little something. Hall of Fame coach. Coach Donovan just got in the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yep, I was actually, I was there with AI. So I was able to be in a building and speech. It was dope. Yeah, man. Super dope. Shout out my man, Bruce Gilles, Al Horford, Twirling Green, Bristopher. We had a squad, man. And after we win the chip, you know, they was like,
Starting point is 00:15:13 I had time to go to the league. But we was having so much fun. you know, that we came back again. That's crazy. There's not a lot of guys who say no to the threat. No, no, no, no. There was no, no, and I electively, though. We could all come back.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, that was fine. No. So, you know, no bread on the table, just going out there and just handling the business. These are my best friends, you know what I mean? So I remember even going to the league, it wasn't like, guys weren't even happy to go to the league. We was having so much fun. He was missing that camaraderie of that. You can't, like, that's the shit about basketball.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It's like the chemistry. Everybody want to talk about stats and the top guy in this, but when you have good chemistry on that court, you can't take that shit for greater. You might never have that shit again. You know what I'm saying? And that goes for everything. That's not just basketball.
Starting point is 00:16:04 That's just life, you know what I'm saying? You got to treat your people right and take care and protect that because that shit is fragile, you know what I'm saying? So I cherish those times, man. I'm proud the fact that, you know, We said the bread could wait because we're having a blast out here. No social media. We was fucking shit up.
Starting point is 00:16:27 You motherfuckers out. Y'all ain't go to same school with Aaron Hernandez, right? We did. It did. Man, that boy was busting his hammer out there on the complex. He was going crazy. Yo, Aaron Hernandez, you know him? He was in the same dorm.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Same dorm. You're lucky. Y'all never stepped on his cleats. Oh, kiss. Hold up. Kiss. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. So you were in the same place with Aaron Hernandez?
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yes. Did you know he was bugged out like that? Nobody did. No, not like that. Not like that. When I saw it, I was like, yo. He said he killed the motherfucker on the campus. He shot him in the eye.
Starting point is 00:17:07 No, no, no, no, no. We can't. It's a sad story, man. Listen, I got my man John Beeson. What's John Beeson stats, Rich? John Beeson was on every all-star team, everything, on the Giants, probably the greatest player of fucking U-WAM this. He told me Aaron Hernandez would be on the line.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You know, when they'd be on the line? He'd be like, nigga, I kill you, Nick. And the, you know, football's like, we watch every week for, like, the hits to this. He told me Aaron Hernandez used to tell them like, yo, I will body you niggas. You come around, like, and everybody shut the fuck up. Like, he was the silent majority.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Listen, Kiss, that dude was talking to them where they was like, they didn't know what they knew. Because the way he was saying, he was saying shit. Like, he was saying to, yo, bro, you know, yeah, this year, I shoot your mom's knicker. Like, everybody was like, she's, like, he was on one legend. But at that time, he was just fun. We shot a nigga in the eye
Starting point is 00:18:17 at school The shit that's fucked up is like We talk a lot about Aaron Hernandez But there was a lot of Really good brothers out there Like just they want a chip too So we won Then the football team won
Starting point is 00:18:30 And then we won again So school lit So school is on fucking fire No no it's on fire On fire but It's a sad story There were other killers on that team too But that's another story
Starting point is 00:18:42 That's another story Yeah, guess I'm trying to tell you. That's another story. No, that's a big story. Tell me about the guy who shot the place over there by the bojangles and shit. Let me tell you something. Y'all has some bogged-down motherfuckers on your shit. That's all fucking, I never forget Aaron Hernandez.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yo, Steve him. No, no. Hold up. Listen, I remember Aaron Hernandez. They walked him out of that mansion. I never forget how he spit on the floor. I said, oh, he did this shit. See how they brought him out?
Starting point is 00:19:14 He said almost like when Cosby was walking out of court and he went, remember when Bill Cosby was walking. Leave him alone. Yo, you remember when Bill Cosby walked at the court and said. That's where Aaron Hernandez did. They walked him out for double-furter, Aaron Hernandez came out. He was like, Bill Cosby do that. What was that?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Because the niggas, it's crazy. It's what I'm trying to tell you. Hernandez has a legendary spit. He walks out of the mansion. They're walking him out from murder. He's like, I said, oh, he did the Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby had walked in that's court. That was before, Bill.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Bill might have got that shit from Aaron Hernandez. Bill didn't do a spit. Bill just did it. Oh, shit. We got to start that shit. Legendary perp walks. Scott's crazy. Yo, legendary perp walks.
Starting point is 00:20:11 But sit, yeah, you knew Aaron Hernandez. This nigga don't want They got a hundred flags now This is going to be a flag show We talk about championships You want to talk about Aaron Hernandez No, because I The shit hit me
Starting point is 00:20:25 Like I was just talking to you And I said, oh shit It's the same school Same school We're Aaron allegedly Yeo went there Who Tony Yeo? Brian, that used to work with us
Starting point is 00:20:39 He was there He was in that school with all of them Now, that must have been a time. You know, me and you were more like sitting buddies. I don't know if you call that. Me and you, many games at the Rucker in uptown. We sat next to each other in the bleachers and analyzed the game.
Starting point is 00:20:56 What are you talking about, man? Sick buddies is a sick dog. Sitting buddies. That was a sick one. Throw a flag. I'm not even going to throw a flag. I'm not even going to hold my flag. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Me and you watch many. Me and you watch many games up at the rocker. Yeah. And Dyckman and all that. And A. Butter loves you. Shout on his way. He's on his way. He's on his way.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Shout out to a whole lot of game. Shout out to a whole lot of game. He just got his book out to a whole lot of game. Go check it out. One of my brothers, he used to get pissed at me in the streetball tournaments. When I used to get the defensive rebound, I used to bring that shit up myself. What the fuck you do it? The fuck you do it, man.
Starting point is 00:21:39 give the ball to the point guard. I used to, you know, I used to like bringing that shit up myself. That shit used to stress him out. That was ahead of the time. He was ahead of your time, but let me ask you something now that you saying that. This motherfucker, Wimba, yamba.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Holy shit! What the fuck is wrong with Wimba yamba? I seen him cross a dude four times coming up. Crossing him to death. Nicar seven, what? What, whack, whack, whack, whack, What? What?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Coming up, I'm like a point. Like, is this normal shit? No. I've never seen no shit like this. We talked my drill with, sham. He was working with, he did some hell of the off-season work. Yo, kids. You want to go see the monks?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Kids. We got to keep it a buck, kiss. I'm telling you. He's doing some shit. Nobody never did. Yeah. Oh, but he's 7-1. 7.7.
Starting point is 00:22:31 He grew two inches this stuff. He grew. He grew. He grew. Jada, the man come down. I'm talking about this one player. I want you all to really Google this. He takes it out.
Starting point is 00:22:42 The defensive dude picks him up all the way. He crossed them four times. Went through the shit and dumped backwards. Like, his shit is like, it's everything we know about basketball or we think we know, right? Because you're a huge basketball fan. I am. He played the game. I have never seen this sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Like, this is crazy for 7-7. A little bit of gripe with the new way of basketball, like the stretch. I do too. I like the old uses of the big men. Bumping bodies, pores. Go down on the block. That's me. I mean, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:23:21 The way I coach, okay, the way I coach is, I will embarrass you. Because I want to, all I want to do is win. So if you a dude that you want to do, I will call timeout, and I will, in front of the whole crowd. stand on the spot and say, here. This is where I want you here and pass him the ball right here. He's a big man. I want him to score. He don't do it.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I'll call a time out again. I walk right in the spot in front of the whole fucking park. I want it here. Here, like I'm not playing. I'm not like coach Mike Brown. I sat next to him. God bless him. He's a great coach.
Starting point is 00:24:01 But I'm not cool with, hey, buddy, thanks for the, like, he's too cool. Hey, Mike, do you? That's not what I do. I'm Bobby Knight of the coaching shit. You're going to, you're a big guy. You are not finessing your way out of here. You're going to have to bump and grind, pause, and fucking go to the, and I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I cannot, everybody got to play their position and do what they got to do. And I don't care about, you know, because the one thing I noticed about coaching is you could be the most athletic person in the world, but you could be dumb as fuck. Mm-hmm. Like gum. You need an IQ. Bro.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Who was the big guy on your team, Joe? Rest in peace. Panda. Oh, baby, bitch. Rest in peace. Should have been in a fucking... That's finished your breakfast. He used to dominate down.
Starting point is 00:24:52 He broke my heart. He came and he played for Jay-Z. Shout out to the rock. He broke Strick. They swip through. Yes. They try to get Kareem Reid, too. They gave Kareem.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Kareem, a duffel bag of, and he stood with the BX, and we still brothers to 20 years later. I go like this, look, that strict, finish your breakfast is about me. It's about Territ Squad, Fat Joe, finish your breakfast, this, this, that. That's what that Strick line is about. That dude went, and I love Strick. Every time I pass this. So when I come from Jersey, when I come from Jersey, Strick used to live in them tall buildings on 181st. It's over the highway.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Every day I come down. here to Manhattan, I think of Strick every day in my life. He was so talented, and he was like, what was he like? Sabonis. Who's the guy who used to pass the big? Yeah, Sabonis. Bonus. He did. He did have
Starting point is 00:25:48 he did the Pilots. Arvetus. Arvetus. You know what I used to love about Strick, though? I remember coming to my first time in the park. I'm like, holy shit, we had Kingdom. You know, one of those nights
Starting point is 00:26:04 when it's just fucking lip, nutcrackers, everybody's smoking blunts. I'm like, you know, what the fuck is this? Strict gets the ball. He fucking takes it to the rack. He misses. He runs in the fucking crowd. He drinks somebody's nutcracker. He drinking the nutcrack.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. Yo, I'm like, oh, this is a whole different. This was like, it was basketball, but the end. It's an addiction. It was an addiction. This shit changed my life, but I'm from France. I see this shit. And then I get to...
Starting point is 00:26:46 So my first year at Florida... Then you get to go to the hardwood floor with this shit? Let me hear this. What are you saying? The first thing... No, it was like... So my first year of Florida, I didn't play. I was playing behind...
Starting point is 00:26:56 Al Horford was playing ahead of me. David Lee was playing ahead of me. So everybody talking about... Yeah, yes. Joaquin, you got to transfer. and every just noise, a lot of noise. So I'm like, you know what? I need to play.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I haven't played all year. So I came to Harlem. And I'm playing in all the fucking tournaments that same. I'm playing in Dykeman. I'm playing at the Rucker. I'm playing at Kingdome. Voice of Harlem on the mic. I'm like, you know, you got Kenny at Dykeman.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm like, yo, okay. After that summer, I came back to show. I came back a fucking different. It was a different animal. Yeah, because they ain't have that. I brought a lot of NBA players, and I won't mention there was two or three that just, you know who I brought, and I'm not disrespecting because I'm a huge fan, but I brought homeboy Jason Richardson after he won the slam dunk, and he wasn't the same guy in the streets that he was in that, Madison Square Garden. You can tell he was just intimidated. He never came with that shit out there.
Starting point is 00:28:00 You thought this wasn't, he was missed a highlight after Vince Carter. He was the next guy, dunking on dudes, jumping over cars. We brought him out there two times, and it was like, I got NBA players that I had to give them the pep talk, smack them in the back of their neck. Come on, guy. You're an all-star. Like, straighten up.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Like, you know, pat him back in their neck and shit. You're an all-star. You like Tibbs. You like a street Tibbs. I love Tibbs. I love Tibbs. But the truth. is the truth. I had guys that
Starting point is 00:28:36 were all-stars that were the most dominant in the NBA that you just seen them. They might have been shitting on themselves. When we get out there because they're not used to the nutcracker. The blunt, the nigger come dance in front of you for no reason. Guy come out to stand, start dancing.
Starting point is 00:28:52 What? And you you win a good, you know, and you seeing all the shit and you see everybody, then you look on the side fat, Joe's crazy, running the crowd, topless, 500 pounds. You're like, yo, what the kind of shit show going on in here? And then you come, and then you're like, and I'm trying to, I'm,
Starting point is 00:29:14 this is one guy that I want to say his name, but he was an all-star. He might have been a 10-time boy. He came out there, man, he might have scored two points. And he was shook. He was like, yo, but the people are on the court, but this, nigger, this is all of them. That's real. A couple of them really, really excel. A couple of them was like really, really, they loved it.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You know, Baron Davis loved it. One time I brought out there, Cotino Mobley and Stevie Francis, and the mix was going, banana. Remember when they was the duo? Al Harrington always played Amazing out there. It was a lot of players. Stefan Marbury, I had them every game. You know, Stefan Marbury at that time was getting $22 million a year in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He was the highest pay. He played out there for free was coming out there. Then he had his brother, Zach, you not the whack. Zach, because Zach never made it to the league. He was actually a good player, but, you know, he's the Marbury. So they expect, Jack, you not the whack. They be on the mic, yo, Zach, you not the whack. And Zach go up in there.
Starting point is 00:30:22 He scores a little 10 points and go hard. But, you know, Stefan Marbury's the most, he was the most dedicated street basketball NBA player I've ever seen. And another person who never lost a single game is Ron Artes at the worker. He never lost
Starting point is 00:30:44 a game he played in. Ron Outtis, I had him one year on my team. We're playing the chip. He splits his whole hand. Splits. You've seen that before, right? What? Split. Like split. Like he had like a... His shit was split.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Like split. It's the championship. His shit has split wide open. Like, he needed surgery or something. He definitely stitches, right? So now I'm shook because I'm thinking the omen is old. Like, this guy never loses. Like, I knew I was winning.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Look, Ronald Tuss never lost the game. So the one game we in the chip, he splits his hand. I mean splits. So I'm like, oh, we lost. Because the man not going to be able to finish this game. It's like fourth quarter. The man gets some tape. He tape his whole hand together.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Tape. Goes back out there, starts killing them. Yo, Ron Artes. Different, Adam. Different. And, you know, I would go pick him up in fucking Queensbridge projects. You know, Ron Ortiz had two apartments
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Starting point is 00:38:17 Enter now at iHeartpodcastawards.com. What player or what game did you watch Christmas or something like that? And you went outside and was like, yo, you was emulating the moves. Like, yo, I got to be like this guy. This guy's incredible. I would say, for me, like, I grew up a Knicks fan. And my pops used to take me to the games. So I was in the garden when LJ hit the shot.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I was there, too, by the way. Yeah, you definitely been to more Knicks games. No, no, no, no. But I was there that game. I was with Allen Avers. and he was here, and we said it on the episode. He was with me. I've been looking forever for the pictures of that game,
Starting point is 00:39:00 but it's the other side. And we was in them seats. We was like a little fourth row, fifth floor. We wasn't in the court side. But that, you saw that whole crowd. Me too. Saw the whole shit go crazy. So, but, you know, it's like when you're a kid,
Starting point is 00:39:16 you just watching all the games, you watching all, like, it was still VCR and shit. So I had all the magic Johnson tapes. Black and white. I'm watching, I'm, I wasn't black and white. No, I wasn't,
Starting point is 00:39:29 I'm an old nigger. I used to watch Honeymoon is black and white. Honeymoon is old one day morning black and white. Now they got the, they got the colored version now. They even got Wizard of Oz in color now. They redid it.
Starting point is 00:39:43 The point is it was black and white. I used to watch the Knicks when the shit was black and white. I used to watch TV when the TV turned off. You ever, you too young for that, right? 12 midnight, they throw the American flag. An Indian dude come out, and he looked at the fucking pollution.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Oh, shit. He was going green a long time ago. He'd be looking and he started crying the Indian dude. With the Indian outfit, every night, he looked and he see the trash, and he start tearing, and that's it. You wake up in the morning, TV again. That shit is off all night. All night.
Starting point is 00:40:21 All night. I'm old. I'm talking about when I'm a kid. When I'm a kid, the honeymoonist was probably like the last show on with Art Carney. That shit be going off. Audrey Meadow.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Then they got a flag. And then they got an Indian dude. They're trying to tell you, yo, don't throw shit in the street. Don't pollute. You're fucking up the earth. And he come over there and he started crying and shit. And that's how TV turned off every night.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Damn. What are you mean? When you were watching what you was watching what you was watching. We're talking about basketball right now? We're talking about the TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah, basketball. You're saying DVD. Oh, no, it's just, it was more like, it was more, you know, you walking in the street and you just, you doing moves, you don't even have a ball or nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It don't matter. You're working on your use in the street with the, you just think, okay, what am I going to do? So you're walking up the block, working on your shit. you're already there in your mind, you know what I'm saying? So for me, that was my mentality as a kid was just like, I wouldn't tell nobody like, yo, I'm going to the league. That was not how I moved, but the reality is I'm a third, I'm a third generation athlete.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Talk about it. Like, my father, my grandfather was a soccer player from Cameroon. My pops is a Hall of Fame tennis player. Five. Only African player to ever win a grand slam. Last Frenchman to win a grand slam So I grew up Seeing all that shit
Starting point is 00:41:57 Just knowing You're a little kid Knowing the greatness Just knowing what it takes To be a pro You know what I'm saying It wasn't like Yo my pops were waking me up in the morning
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yo let's go for a run You know what I'm saying Like that was my game I wasn't more talented Than half the guys out there But I had that education Of I wake up in the morning
Starting point is 00:42:20 the discipline of what it takes. Like, when I see you fucking tired and I got two more gears because I'm running three miles before school because I know nobody else doing that shit and y'all fucking up the drills, y'all don't want y'all coach say something because you got 20 points
Starting point is 00:42:38 so you think that you can just, I don't give a fuck what the coach got to say. Like New York City, more than just like looking at guys and being like, yo, I'm looking at guys like, this is what I'm not. supposed to do and this is what I'm not supposed to do a lot of guys should have been there man
Starting point is 00:42:55 there was a lot of guys who were better than me what a blessing same thing happened to me I don't believe it happened to kiss because kiss always been the best but when I got on I'm networking in Manhattan I'm I'm performing at SOBs I'm going to uh lyricist lounge this and this and that trying to get on and the guys was a hundred times better than me in the hood and then they got mad at me because I got on but they wasn't willing to network go talk to people meet people
Starting point is 00:43:26 get a deal like you know I snuck up in the record label that shit was 31 flights I snuck in the record label walked up 31 flights and I was fat fat fat Joe three fat Joe's and I give the guy my demo and he tell me I'm not
Starting point is 00:43:42 good enough and shit like that I was doing I was going down to DC to how can I be down and everywhere trying to get on. I end up doing Apollo Theater. I won four weeks in a row. That's how I got my chance. But other guys
Starting point is 00:43:58 was 100 times better than me, and they didn't understand. They were like, we better than Joey. But yeah, y'all don't want to put in that work. You know, it's a special. And the athletes are a whole different, you know, I stood in Tony Parker's house for a couple of days, and that guy was eating like a bean.
Starting point is 00:44:15 They was giving them to go bean and asparagus. One piece of turkey and it was like, yeah, go work out for two hours, he'd come back, they give him some other bullshit shit, tofu this he's going to work out again, he come back. I'm like, yo, this shit is, yo, that guy there? Tony Parker?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Tony Parker. I lived in his house for like a week. A week. We was performing at somebody's birthday party. He was like, you don't stay in the hotel, stay in my house. His shit was a con-in-in-Sin-Tonio. San Antonio. He had a complex, maybe a hundred acres of
Starting point is 00:44:46 some shit. He had the professional gym. to everything, but I'm looking at this dude eat, and he getting up. He got a fucking chef. I'm eating all the eggs and pancakes and motherfucking can eat. He eating a bean, this, this that. I was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:45:03 this is the chicken taste. Tony Parker Pops. Tony Parker Pops just passed, too. So rest of peace, Pops. Oh, he was there. Pops was there. He was on top of Tony like that. That's exactly who had him on that regiment.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That's right. Pops was a dog, too, Hooper. Nice, Chicago Finers. That's what I'm trying to see. Like, with Top Scorer. I went to the funeral last week. Yeah, Tim Duncan there, David Robinson. Like, yo, everybody, all the French players came.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Tiri already, I'm like, yo, damn people. They love him. Boy, they showed out for him. Everybody flew to Chicago. Goose bumps, brother. You know what I'm saying? For Pops. Dead.
Starting point is 00:45:46 So, no, respect for Fox. Well, speaking to Tim Duncan, that's my favorite power for the board all time. Doesn't get better. Fundamental. Shit. He give it to you. He don't even, I remember that one game. It was one game.
Starting point is 00:46:01 He was one of his last games. And he was old already and he was still busing the, he gave him every. I don't remember him, never busing hands. No, what I'm saying is his last season, his team was whacked. Oh, right. Who? his last season, Tim Duncan's team kind of fell off. Golden State was the best shit we ever see.
Starting point is 00:46:26 They fell off now, right? It happens to everybody. What I'm saying is they didn't have that kind of firepower no more, but that boy, Timmy, man, he ain't let me down. He still gave them niggas like 41. He went to the last oxygen. He was trying to die. Greg Popovich used to sit them out and put reason with O.H.
Starting point is 00:46:47 He used to make Tony Parker and Tim Duncan and them not played since O.H. He was cool like that. Man, they used to, they were so good. The Spurs were so good. Talk about chemistry. One day Tony's like, yo, let's have lunch. I'm not feeling like lunch playing, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:06 buddy, buddy before the game. Like, we Chicago Bulls, y'all, San Antonio. He's like, no, come on, man. I need to talk to you. Pop said that? No, no, Tony Parker. I pull up. These guys are all drinking wine before the game.
Starting point is 00:47:22 At lunch, I'm like, yo, so good. They came out there still bust our ass by 20. Genovali. Their chemistry. So who's on your Chicago team? At that time? We had young Jimmy Butler. We had Derek Rose.
Starting point is 00:47:38 We had Lualdang. We had Carlos Boozer. A whole lot of game in this motherfucker. Come on, man. Butter, what up? We talk about your lot on this show, man. You wore your Harlem pink pants. You got their Harlem pink pants.
Starting point is 00:47:56 A whole lot of game in the building. A lot of game, Adrian. Yo, so you have a young Jimmy Butler. Derek Groves. Derek Roth. We had, you know, it's too bad, man, because we were right there. We were right there.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I love everything about it. Who else you got, you got Lou Al Deng at that time? We had Lou Al Deng. We had Kirk Heinrich picking up full court. That's the toughest, toughest white boy. We had him. We had Big Duck, Brad Miller. Brad Miller changed my fucking whole, my whole shit,
Starting point is 00:48:37 but he one day after practice, he goes, you know, he had a big, he used to put dip in his mouth, you know, big country guy. Redneck truck. Redneck truck, exactly. But one of my best friends... He might have had the Confederate under the seat, the Confederate flag. He might... But, you know, but the best.
Starting point is 00:48:56 The best of the Confederates. The best of the Confederates. Indiana. That ain't got anything in his mouth. Come. Be careful. So he got the dip, right? And he's like, yo, young fella, don't ever shoot a jump shot again.
Starting point is 00:49:13 This is what I need you to do. catch the ball at the elbow dribble handoff if he's overplaying it throw the back door pass yo two things he just told me two simple things that
Starting point is 00:49:27 changed my whole shit like yo I had I had seasons where I'm averaging five times a game now shooter just from that little just get the guy
Starting point is 00:49:39 big fella get the ball at the elbow one of this guy's favorite boss for me was like Sam I could sell. Like Sam I can sell. Right? And every time I see Sam Cassell, I tell him we got to bring him on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Wasn't nobody like Sam Cicel. No, I'm the best. Sam Cousel's a coach. Whoever he's teaching is fucking learning. He was one of the last technicians. Like, he's like a fucking brainiac that could play. Experience is a motherfucker. And when somebody just gives you advice
Starting point is 00:50:12 and you could apply it and turn around and make you so much better it's amazing to me and that's dope for Brad because you guys had a hell of a team you know what I'm saying and y'all were just young
Starting point is 00:50:27 it was kind of like the OKC team when they had KD they had you know they split them up James Harden like what kind of team could that have been if they played together or Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter, they split that shit up.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. You guys had a hell of a team and a hell of a coach. Yeah. Because, you know, I'm a Tibbs guy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with Coach Tibbs, man. Shout out Tibbs, man.
Starting point is 00:50:55 It's all right. No, he got $30 million on the walkout. He's all right. I saw that clip. I saw that clip. Y'all were whiling on the 30 million. Bro. You know, by the way, if you want to know what I had to coach.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I mean, that's a hell of a walk on. It's a highway. Robbery? Huh? Highway robbery. No, no. He deserved everything. We ain't been there
Starting point is 00:51:16 25 years. They should have gave him more. Exactly. Not in favor of... We should make history and bring them back. Right now, like tomorrow. Make a big thing.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Bring him back. Nah, shout out. Tips was the best, man. It's sad because Coach Brown, the problem I got with Coach Brown is his sneakers. Go, you go. Go!
Starting point is 00:51:35 When he got on, when he rocked on it. You know, your coach is pie, the team is pie. Tibbs was rocking Versacee, Jifanchi's all. If your coach is pie, your team is pie. And Coach Brown, he's my neighbor.
Starting point is 00:51:48 He lives around in the neighborhood. Everybody says, it's a beautiful guy. But his fucking sneak is, I'm not intimidated. So if I'm looking at the coach, yeah, you coach. You're the fucking leader. He might got some bullshit on to intimidate you. Now, he got some bullshit on. He got, like, fake converts.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Bad feet. Nah, that's not helping to feed, either. It's not comfortable. Anyway, Coach Brown, I wish you luck. The system looks like it's going to work by mid-season. They're going to be the fluidity. There you go. Another thing, I want the job.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I ain't got the pause. Job of what? I ain't got the heart to tell you in person because I see James Dolan at all the games. But if someone could tap them, if Clive Frazier retires, I want the job. I'm giving up everything, being you, the glory days is over rapping everything to be the announcer of the new yup nix you got to wear
Starting point is 00:52:45 the suits it ain't no money it ain't no money you gotta wear the cowhide suits and i ain't got a fucking problem with that's the voice pony vasatchi i want to be the voice of the city voice that's the voice holy mcmoli ah this fluidity what i'm ready for the job jay swishing and dishing willing and dilling willing and dilling joving and thrifted What? I wear the fucking cowhide suits in honor of Clyde. Mount Clyde the other day said, yeah, some, there you go, Pat Riley. He used to have a hard time. He told him that's why he turned it to a coach.
Starting point is 00:53:25 He used to try to stick me out there. I used to kill him. That made him turn to him. You know, I'm not even going to lie to you the other day. You know when people start dying this shit, he's not dying, right? But you know where people, listen, listen. Everybody. No, no, I'm not saying that, but you know, when people start dying, the motherfucker dying, he on the deathbed.
Starting point is 00:53:43 He knows he's going at six hours. He'd be like, yo, I killed 36 people. They start telling their shit. You know, they're dying. The motherfucker's start, yo, I'm the serial killer of Alaska. Kilt the girl in Albuquerque. Yo, listen. I feel they come to flags.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Oh, listen. Flags is coming. I seen Clyde do something the other day. I'd never seen him doing his life. He straight up said, I'm the best Nick, the great. greatest nick of all time. Clyde don't brag like that. I see him on the interview.
Starting point is 00:54:13 No, no, no, no, he said that. With those lyrics, I'm the greatest nick of all time. Clyde Frazier. I never heard him say that at all of them years. He said that recently, and his rumors he might be retiring. And that man was like, yeah, Clyde Frazier, the greatest nick of all time. You won the chip. He won the chip, right?
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah. No, he wanted to. I heard he used to clean his rose royce with a chinchilla and all. as he deserves it. As he deserves it. I'm with that. You understand what I'm saying? I'm with you live a life, man.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You work hard. You deserve to do whatever the fuck you want to do if it's legal. You want to wipe your car with a chinchilla, wipe your car, do whatever. Ain't nobody give you shit. You work for it. So whatever makes you happen. What's your man, Jared Jeffries? Remember on the Knicks?
Starting point is 00:55:04 What's your chair with the lights can do? Yeah. He told me his first check. He cashed. shit out all cash and threw it in the bathtub and slept in the money. Jared Jeffries. They're motherfucking crazy. Yo, that didn't you told me that shit.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I was like, what? He was like, yes, I pulled out a half a million dollars cash. Do it in the bathtub and bathed in it all night, like in the money. Jared Jeffrey. What's the wildest shit you heard like a basketball player say about? I never heard no shit like that. That's crazy. No, I heard it.
Starting point is 00:55:37 We were playing Boston. And we went to dinner with Boston and the Knicks. I was up there in Boston, and they was all saying crazy shit. Like, they were saying crazy shit. The ball players, they were young. They were saying, you know, he said he bathed in. I can't tell you the other shit.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I'm really in trouble if I talk about these. No, I think the league now, it changed a lot, man. Like, you know, like, when you walk around New York City, you're like, why does it feel, why does the city feel so polished? Like, the money's so big that I think that, And because of the social media and all that, I think everybody's just on their best behavior.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Like, you don't even go, they're playing video games. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a different. That's you John Moran. Unless you John Moran, that's right. You're trying to play in China. You're right.
Starting point is 00:56:23 The motherfucker I want to play in China. You're not playing video. I warned them three years ago. You remember that shit. Hey, buddy, you watch everything I say. Hey, but I won them three years ago. I told him, bro, you bought a China. He has a coach from over the water that placed 30,
Starting point is 00:56:37 minute, he's not used to playing a little bit of minutes. So he has the right stairs there with the shades threats. I got nothing to who will know he. He ain't. The potts is drunk. He ain't bothering nobody. He's sitting there getting shrinking. Stefan Marbury went from $22 million a year
Starting point is 00:56:53 the biggest playing the thing to China. He's 97 times, sister. They'll fucking throw you in China or Yugoslavia, my nigga, don't care how nice you is. You're not bigger than the program. Fall in line or you're going to fall by the wayside. Tell me about it. That's right and wrong. I lived it. I lived it here. I got kicked off the
Starting point is 00:57:14 Knicks in the middle of the winter. I don't even have a job anymore. How'd that? That was good. That was a good question. How did it? Jayne they rarely wants to know, but that was a good one, Jane. Corny Hornie. Who was Corny Hornishick? Jeff Hornishette? Yeah. What happened with him? He didn't fuck with me, man. So he ran up on me, like, he wanted to fight me. That's what happened. But, I mean, look, at the end of the day, I'll take my part.
Starting point is 00:57:52 When I was on the Knicks, I wasn't right. Like, I just got surgery. No, no, no, this is like, this is a fucking movie. This is a movie. I'm a free agent, but I got hurt the year before. I remember. Full shoulder reconstruction. So I do my surgery at HSS.
Starting point is 00:58:12 That best place. So I get the surgery popping, like, you know, I'm taking the pills for the surgery. Like, percocet, like, I'm walking in the streets, but I'm a free agent. So I'm walking in these streets, everybody. Yo, Joaquin, you coming home? What's up? I get the call from Phil Jackson a week before free agency. I'm coming to New York.
Starting point is 00:58:35 This shit is like dream come true shit. But I'm already on my injuries piling up. Injuries piling up. I hate that. It's the worst. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking ready. This is like dream come true shit and I'm not right.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Mentally, I'm in New York. The streets is calling. Do you know what I mean? I got a coach who don't fuck with me. Making it reigns number one about that time. Make it rain. Making rain was hot. That was making rain was hot.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Making rain was hot. And, you know, it's also, you got to understand, when you're playing in the NBA, the amount of money you make, it's on a ticker. Like, I remember being in the club when I saw my deal with the Knicks. I'm seeing people like, yo, look what Joaquin getting. You know what I'm saying? That's why my girl made, shout out my girl Robin. She made bowl alert for me. that you know baller alert on
Starting point is 00:59:37 Instagram she made it so that when a baller comes in the club they'd be like yo ladies Joaquin Noah is worth 100 million no no that's the true inception of baller alert so that you could like like know what these guys are making
Starting point is 00:59:56 like that's a fact they know they know what you're making it's crazy hey about that I don't disclose nothing you go right now they say fat Joe worth like a million dollars right now and the net worth I'm not worth nothing Exactly Don't tell them nothing I'm not worth a thing
Starting point is 01:00:13 They told me I was worth a million dollars I had a million eight hundred thousand dollar watch on When I saw that shit in the network I was like okay Perfect I'm good You know what they tell your shit So you out there doing the most
Starting point is 01:00:27 Is what you're saying I'm doing it like so I get kicked off the Knicks I get into it with corny horn and And now this is the first time of my life where I got a lot of money. I'm young, but I don't have a job. So I'm like, if I stay in New York City right now, it's a rap. I'm fucking myself up. So I had to, I rented a house in L.A.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Thank God I had great mentors, Larry Hamilton, a big wave surfer. So from end of January all until December. So it was like almost a year. I was training by myself. I didn't even have a team to rock with it. But thank God, you know, Memphis picked me up and I got to finish my career, you know, playing off the bench for a year.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And it was a blessing. But like, yo, I had nine surgeries, bro. Nine. You know what I'm saying? But like, yo, come on, man. Like, I got to live out, like, coming from here and being able to make money, take care of my kids, take care of my family. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got to live it at the highest level.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The New York shit is like, when I go in there, it's like, damn, it hurt. I wish that. I wish it would have been better, you know what I'm saying? You know, they do that a lot. They have a tendency of bringing people when they're a little bit. past their prime. Say Rashid Wallace. Everybody, man.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Well, the Knicks do that. Not now. Not now. Not now. But the Knicks. Now we go. You know, I believe that Leon Rose and West. West changed the whole DNA of the New York Knicks because me personally, I would have never got rid of Linsanity.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And Tibbs? Tibbs changed the whole shit. We went to the thing for 25 years. We're not even talking about that. I'm talking about the DNA. Yeah, yeah. Right? I forgot what happened.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Who, somebody who's playing on the Knicks now, when the Knicks read up his contract, I couldn't believe it. As a Knick fan, we always lose the nigger once they get nice. They go and they brought them back. I said, oh, they're finally changing the DNA, you know, like Linsanity. I wouldn't have got rid of Linsanity.
Starting point is 01:02:50 He was must-see TV. The man was on fire. Why wouldn't you bring the brother back? I didn't even understand. A lot of moves they were making. They wouldn't pick Ronald Chess because he was from New York. They was bypassing New York players, like homegrown, born. The Knicks had 30 years of trading away niggas that turned out they'd be incredible
Starting point is 01:03:14 everywhere they went. Rod Strickland, Mark Jackson, everywhere, everybody. But one of the reasons they were doing that was they... Answered it. Too close to home. So what they... I'm telling you... just from a fan, I felt like
Starting point is 01:03:29 they didn't want Ron Altess in his prime. They didn't want these guys because they're from the city. They had a mentality of, though, they're too close to home. They're going to be out of control. It's a real thing. That's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:03:41 What it is from the outside end, it's on the individual. You know he's going outside. You know J.R. Smith's going outside. Brunton and Hart is in the library in Westchester. Chilling out, eating wings and candlelight. It's this, if it's on the, well, that's great.
Starting point is 01:04:00 It's great that we got some players that want to stay home and do they, thank God, thank God, thank God. You know, because I used to hate going to the strip club and seeing the star of the shit in there throwing money. I'd be like, yo, this shit crazy. These motherfuckers, what? What? In that same token, Mason and them was outside,
Starting point is 01:04:18 and it still was winning. This nigga Zion got like 32 strippers pregnant. Oh, shit. I'd be really fucking mad. Yo, oh, man, come on. Yo, I would be really pissed if I was the fan of this shit. And, Zaya, my guy, I want him to play the greatest. I wanted him to be, that's the last guy, beg, to be a fucking...
Starting point is 01:04:40 32's a lot. Sick. 32's a lot. Listen, you know, that's the fat Joe, you know what I'm saying? But I don't mean it like that. I don't want to... Yo, Zion, I don't want to... I love you, Zaya, man.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'm a fan of your game when you're healthy. You don't say you love him out to say he got 32 favorite. I know I would be really mad if I went to every strip club and Zion was in there and he's unhealthy and this and this I'd be really pissing. I went through that with the Knicks a lot. What's my man? He got shot in the knee.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Clee Anthony. Clee Anthony outside Starletch. They fixed him bad. That was disgusting though. Any street nigger who had something to do with that? You know that was disrespect. Bro, the man, an athlete, you shoot him in his kneecap. It couldn't have been that serious.
Starting point is 01:05:24 He should have gave it up. Gave what up? Whatever they wanted. So they was robbing them and he... That's fucked up. They just didn't like his knee. That was personal. That was personal. They shot him in his knee.
Starting point is 01:05:38 That ain't had nothing to do with no robbery. Just me. Fat Joe criminal theology 101. That was bigger than the robbery. They shot him in the knee. He was fucking somebody girl. They shot him in it. I'm telling you what must have happened.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I don't know the facts. They're not robbing the dude shooting him in his knee. He was fucking somebody bitch. And they said, you know what? This is the third warning. Chagito gave it to him. Chargito. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:06:03 But anyway, you need to go back to the record, man. I can't do it. A. Jimby trying to get me. Anybody trying to get me out there all the time. I can't do it. I would take the whole summer off. I wouldn't make a dollar. Number one, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:22 You could keep all your flags. You want to keep your flags and you want to thorn them. I'm number one in America. Westlove is number one in America. White America's begging to give me money. And I'd be like, yo, the whole summer's off. I got a coach. And me, I'm a different coach.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Hey, but is right here. One of my greatest players are all time. After the game, what we do, we go eat steaks, rice and beans, and lobsters. And it was a family. Before the game, we stretched together. I get on the floor this. I'm all in. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers.
Starting point is 01:07:06 But it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free. on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:07:31 What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe, most importantly, the first Latino to break primetime wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story. From plening canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways.
Starting point is 01:07:59 On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life. The moments it has overlapped with mine, how he redefined American television, and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. This is the story of how one man's spotlight lit the path for so many others
Starting point is 01:08:19 and how we carry his legacy today. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valdez That's part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bomb. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep?
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs in supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better.
Starting point is 01:09:27 So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Hi, I'm Dr. Priyank Wally. And I'm Hurricane deBolu. On our new podcast Health Stuff, we demystify your burning health questions. You'll hear us being completely honest about her own health. I'm talking about very serious stuff right now, and you're laughing at me. And you'll hear candid advice and personal stories from experts who, want to make health care more human.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Sometimes you're there to listen, to understand, to empathize, maybe to give them an understanding or a name for what's going on. That helps people a lot, understanding that it's not just in their head. We are breaking down the science, talking with experts, and sharing practical health tips you can actually use in your day-to-day life. From when to utilize and avoid artificial light to how to sleep better. Everything you need to know about fiber and how to poop better. How to minimize the effects of jet lag and how to stay.
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Starting point is 01:11:14 I went to Harvard yesterday. And I gave a lectures that. Thank you on Harvard. But one of the best parts of the movie Malcolm Max is when some white girl come up to him and says, I understand my ancestors were wrong. I know we wrong. What can I do?
Starting point is 01:11:31 He said, you can't do nothing for me, Mama. I'm sorry. You know what I said? One of the greatest point gods that ever live, the greatest handles ever created was bone collector. And he came up to me one summer and we coming in the park And then we're giving out the terrorist squad jersey.
Starting point is 01:11:51 He says, Joe, my whole life, I want to win a chip. Yo, Joe, Joe, Joe. He said, how can I join? I say, you, my friend, cannot join the team. He was like, looking at me, and he had the greatest handle in the universe. And I was like, you don't want to win a championship. You want individual achievement.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And people didn't realize the rule was, once we up by 20, then play the game, you act stupid. But I want fucking to win. I'm going in there to win. And we play basic basketball until we're blowing you out. Now we do the tricks. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:27 Hey, buddy, they didn't understand that. We're walking up in there to win. We had blue collars. Tell me some of the big guys we had DP. The Beast. Remember the Beast? Oh, my God. BJ the Beast?
Starting point is 01:12:41 Oh, my God. BJ, he had abnormal strength. And he didn't want no limelight. He didn't want nothing Who's the coach from C.R. Syracuse now. He played for us. Adrian Oatry. Adrian Oatry never bothered nobody.
Starting point is 01:12:57 He played his team. He threw the backpack on and took the train and got out of there. He never hung out. There's guys like that. What was my man? It was the preacher. These are guys you'll never say they're there.
Starting point is 01:13:09 We couldn't win these chips without these guys. These guys got all the rebounds, made the right block at the right time. And guys, you know, we had guys that went in there to really win who's like, yo, we're going to win a chip. It ain't just about the, you know what I'm saying? And so, you know, we're going to get to that. But it wasn't about that.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And we, you know. Good times. Wow. Derek Rose, right? We had G. Herbo up here, young brother. You know, he's out there saying, you know, all these young dudes, my nephew is crazy out here. Man, these guys are crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:43 My daughter's crazy. G. Herbal said that Derek Rose is better than Michael Jordan. He didn't really mean that. And so what he's just saying in his era when he grew up, he watched him in high school. How are you going to say he didn't mean that? I didn't know what he meant. He didn't mean that.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And so what I'm saying to you is that in his era of high school, he saw Derek Rose in the street games. He saw him in high school. He grew up. He's homegrown. Yeah. And then he excelled to be. the youngest MVP, how unfortunate was his injuries and how great of a player, he was already
Starting point is 01:14:24 a great of, I mean, even his last year, he scored like 51 somewhere, right? When Derek Rose in his prime, when he stepped onto the court, it was like the energy for the team. Like, you know, you know, I feel like when somebody pull up to the court and you're like, oh, we win in? every time he was on the court, you felt like you had a chance you could win. I mean, we're not talking about the athleticism
Starting point is 01:14:48 and all those things. Ooh, that leiticism was out of control. It was out of control. He was a killer. Dero was must-see TV. Must-watch TV. Oh, shit. And, but when the injury happened,
Starting point is 01:15:03 it was like, it was like somebody died, bro. Like, that's what it felt like. It was like, yo, we were winning the championship that year. There was no question in my mind. I was like, we just lost the heat in the Eastern Conference the year before. We're young boys. And now it's our fucking time. That's what it felt like.
Starting point is 01:15:22 So when he got hurt, it was like, we didn't have a shot anymore. Damn. Even talking about it now, it's still hurt. It's still hurt because it's like it's the biggest what if, like, you know, it's like when you really want, when you care about, like, I hear you talking about the ruckold. I was like, I see how passionate you are about the winning. He was all of that He embodied all of that And the way he embodied Chicago
Starting point is 01:15:46 During that time It was like It was crazy, man It was like, you know Chicago's a crazy place You know, different Like we talk about streetball shit You can't even do the street ball shit
Starting point is 01:15:57 Over there in Chicago They can't do it It's too violent Kids are dying every day You know So what Derek represented Coming from that And represent
Starting point is 01:16:09 And the way that he represented That every day on the court. These young kids were just like, he was a guy. Yeah, yeah, it was all of that. And he was like humble, you know, it was like all that. He didn't, the way he carried himself through the fucking bright lights, you know, it was like, it was impressive. You know, I see a lot of guys get caught up in the lights, you know, like when the lights come, it's like, yo, you don't know how you call you, you lost in the sauce.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That should be a new term you bring back and you recycle. lost in the sauce. You guys are lost in the sauce. But the best, man. Best human. Fuck basketball, like, in terms of brotherhood and the loyalty that he has for his people, the way he takes care of his people.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Like, man, shout out, Poo, honestly. I'm impressed. I love people. Like, you see it. Like, when you go through adversity, you see who's a real motherfucker. And when motherfuckers have real success, you also see that shit too.
Starting point is 01:17:13 You know what I'm saying? Like, can you have a humility about yourself when, you know, when you're around, when people look at you as great? Now, when you're young, I give every rapper a two-year grace period. Right? Because I asked little cocky car who came here.
Starting point is 01:17:30 He's a young boy that's on fire. And I said, yo, I know what's like for people, regular people to know me, your fat Joey. And then the next day I got a hit. And they run in like, yo, fat, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. For me, it takes like two years to get off that cloud and then we'll see who you truly are.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Did you let the fame get to you, the money get to you, the success? You know, you don't know how many rappers I've seen come in humble. And two years later, they got a purple yorky dog with them. And they start acting like they forgot the whole shit. So I give them two years because it takes two years. It takes two years for a girl who barely got men to all of a sudden be a sex symbol and every guy they ever thought in the history of mankind is rapping to them every day at a club and all. It takes two years for all that shit to settle down, soak in.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Now, if you're an asshole, you're an asshole. If you're gassed or you think who you are, you are, who you are, or you come back to Earth and you pretty much who you are. So when you're young, I can see people getting caught. on that shit, but then you got to figure out life. Somebody got law what they're talking about out there. I give them a grace period. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:47 Anybody who just come into money, come into fame, you know, they got to get used to this new lifestyle of what's going on. And, you know, and if you're full of shit, you're full of shit. And we've seen more full of shitters than, you know, I always ask Angie this. Angie Martinez, one of my wife's best friend. She's always in the house.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I'd be like, Your Ange, Angie don't talk shit even, though. Let me not. But I'd be asking, Anz, your Ange, what are the artists? Because she's in the radio. She walks them come for the first spin. And then they come by the next year, the next year, the next year. And I ask her quietly beyond the scene. Like, who are some artists?
Starting point is 01:19:24 She's like, Joe, please. If you even start to believe the shit that I've seen on the radio of how people switched up and they get caught up in the fame, the lights. The money. Yeah. But one thing that bugs me out about athletes, you the man, college, you're the man, NBA, the crowd is screaming for you, you walk in. How hard is it as an athlete when you retire and you don't hear that no more? You know, us, Patty LaBelle, I just seen her on TV, she's going on tour, 81 years old.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Smokey Robertson and them, they're still rocking. 80 years old. The artist, as long as you got a voice, God willing, you could keep going. The athlete is an expiration day. For real. And what does that feel like? No, no, they got the paper.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Oh, no. That's what you need. Oh, my name is Miami is Jamal Mashburn. He ain't playing 50 years. He's up. He walked around with his wife like, hi, Joe. I'd be like, 10, then they got to have it. Of course they are up financially
Starting point is 01:20:36 if they didn't blow the bag. Yeah. Well, it's more than the bag. The bag is definitely a piece of it. But it's true. You're playing in front of 20,000 people, you know, for as long as you playing. And then all of a sudden, when it's done, it's like, you don't get that no more. Ever.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You're not the gladiator anymore. Your frequency as a competitor, like who you are as a competitor, like, you got to to change like I can't be like yo fuck that stuff it's not it's not that anymore it's not fuck that team fuck fuck that city
Starting point is 01:21:14 like we over here we coming in like it's not if I live if I live my life how I was as a competitive now you'd be in trouble I'd be in trouble so I had to change my whole
Starting point is 01:21:28 mindset knowing like okay I'm not playing in those games anymore like it's about bringing people together And I'm really careful how I, because with these shorties, the way I talk about like this generation, the game is different. The money is bigger. The expectations are bigger.
Starting point is 01:21:50 The pressure is bigger. When you get dunked on, the whole world sees it on their phone. When I was playing, if you bump it to somebody with the Beijing on their shirt is out of the whole world sees it. Shut up to Jalen Brown. We're working on them coming. on the box. We wind a 10. We're working right now as we speak. We're deliberating numbers right now.
Starting point is 01:22:12 We need them on a new box. That way he can have a brand he could trust. We wind the 10 as the most voice of hair coloring. I thought that was for bids, not for roofs. You got a... No, that's the... Yeah, we got the shit for the shopper. We got beard and hair. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:22:28 We got hair, too. Travis Kelsey's hair. We ain't got no bums on these box. But anyway, Jalen Brown, welcome to the family. Jalen Brown, welcome to the family. Come on, man. Let's make it happen, man. He better, when he's signed
Starting point is 01:22:43 when he white, it better be night when it's John. It won't. It won't. Come on, bro. You know better than that shit. You put fucking doing the show with me every day. Do I look like the shit come off? My shit, the Rose Royce. My bet. You shit is right. Joachim, I'm going to be honest. You're the first person
Starting point is 01:23:00 with the ringer went off in 60 episodes. My bad, my bad. My bad. My bad. It's fucked up. I'm going to turn this shit off. Gotta be some friend shit or something. You got a new show coming up. Tell us about it. Yeah, man. I'm really proud of this.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Like, you know, first I want to thank the Knicks because without the Knicks, I'm in a position now where if it doesn't get me crunk, I'm not fucking with it. Like, if it doesn't get me hype, I'm not doing it. And that's a blessing to be able to say no. Man, I don't know how to do that. So shout out to the Knicks.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Me and Jay is still doing the Chitlin circuit We can't say no Our families want to spend money like a motherfucker They're selling them boots that don't fit All kind of shit We'll be at a bar in Alabama For you right quick Shout out to the Knicks
Starting point is 01:23:52 Shout out to the guys Who got it done last year? What's the show? Tell me the show No, but I want to thank the Knicks first For getting this shit done because now I can walk around New York more comfortably. There was a time when I was walking around the city, you know, people thought I was stealing money
Starting point is 01:24:10 every time I walked in the street. Now the Knicks are good. I could come home again, comfortably. So I want to give a shout out to the guys before we talk about the show. But right now, I'm starting a travel show called Nomad. I'm hype as hell. I get to travel.
Starting point is 01:24:26 The Knicks gave you this show? No, the Knicks didn't give me the show. But I just wanted to give a shout out to the Knicks first before. The show is a show. is nomad. The show is nomad. I'm working with a media company called NBA Take 2. And we start in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Then we went to Morocco. And we're using... Casa Blanca, Macaresh. Oh, okay. No, it was Casablanca, a robot. You didn't meet the little man. You were talking about... You got a little man like this that you fucked up on your show.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I ain't seen him. You should have went and found the little man I heard you talking about him before. I swear to God you should have went to Makadesh. Put the little guy on the show. You don't want every award in the world, man. Oh, man. Shit, man.
Starting point is 01:25:15 This shit being bigger than him. He's like in the box of rewind. He looked like he ducking. In Marrakesh? Ask French Montana. Yeah, that's crazy. French Montana, the little guy, you fucked up. They should have already known.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You're going to Morocco. Go find the little guy. Now, we found a rapper, El Grande Toto. Shout out to my main man, Toto, man. We went to Casablanco. We went to his hood. He showed us a great time. Like, this guy's like...
Starting point is 01:25:45 You got the guys that do this and shit? Like, for like hours. The snakes, the snakes, go. Shit like this. Why you eat in the nigg is just going like this, Zay. And he got some shit in his head. Morocco. Hours.
Starting point is 01:25:57 You been there? Yo, hours. You eating... Let me get the headdinger's there for like five hours. He's just going like this. This shit dizzy like a motherfucker. Like, he don't get dizzy. Best, the best people, man.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Best, the people over there are awesome. But we just went before her came Melissa. We were just in Jamaica with Rohan. Rohan Mali. My brother. Lying order. Lying order and fucking shout out to Rohan. You know, Rohan Mali?
Starting point is 01:26:25 You know, Rohan Mali's my man. My God. Rohan Mali has been. Damn, if I could have said what I really was going to say, I'm getting the flag. But Rohan Marley has gotten to the bag in the same places of fed. Say they say, behind door number one, you know, they're doing business. They're handing out bags. When I opened the door, Rohan's in there already.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Like, yeah, if I started smiling, like, we don't hit the same plugs up a million times. Everywhere I go, yo, Rohan, yeah, Joe, I'm over here too. So, Royan's a hustler. So he took you to Jamaica. Talk about ghetto royalty. I mean, that name, you know, I mean, look, at the end of the day, what Bob Marley did for the world, man, is just... And what the Marley's do for the world.
Starting point is 01:27:20 And what the Marley's do. Because they were feeding their people for years and years and years and gears and years. They could trust the Marley's. I guarantee you right now with this hurricane, they're doing a lot out there. Those guys don't never stop giving the people. I don't know how they run out.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Such beautiful people, man. They're for their people, man. I trust them with my life, the Marley's. I just got to keep it real with you. And I'm not their best friend. I'm not with them all the time. But them people stand for something. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 01:27:52 You know what I'm saying? They're righteous. They stand for something. And you got to salute them for what they do for their people. So you went out there. You know, just like for Rohan and Stephen was out there, too, going to Hope Road where Bob bought his house, you know, when he started making the records.
Starting point is 01:28:10 We went to Trench Town where he grew up. We're up at Nine Mile where he's buried. Shout out Uncle Rich for making all that possible for us. But just to, you know, so much of that music just gave me so much power while I was playing. You know what I'm saying? It was obviously like hip-hop, New York, But there was also that part, like the Rasta, Bob Marley. So I wanted to just, you know, show that.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And Rohan just opened so many doors and just so many cool, really interesting interviews. I got to interview Bob's lawyer. You know what I mean? Just like great conversation. So, yo, check out my show, Nomad. Where is it available where? It's going to be on YouTube. You know, we're going to have it.
Starting point is 01:28:54 It starts, we launching next week. So, yeah, check me out. You know, I sampled bought Marley one time, and he was not clearing the sample. And you know me, I send the Yard man, the Rasta, DJ Callet, to the Bali complex. So the roster go, they ain't smoked blunts with them for like eight hours. And he thinks they don't know why he's there. And they turned around at the 8th hour. Be like, so yeah, come here for the big money, you know, for the clearance,
Starting point is 01:29:24 kind of tell him we clear it. Cali went over there. I see, Yo, Callet, came back so high. I said, Yo, Cali, he was so high. He was winning for eight hours smoking. Bob Ballies did they. They go, and they told him at the eighth hour, they look at someone knowing what you're here for a star.
Starting point is 01:29:42 You're winning a clearance to the Bigmont. You tell him we love five, Joe. We love him. We're going to clear it for you, Callet. Don't worry. We know why you're here. When he get up out of there, these people, great people, man. And you got that.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I got that. Man, I watched that movie on Ball. Marley a couple of times. I went to the movie theater like two, three times to see that shit. But I'm going to, I'm looking forward to your show. I love shows like that. You know, my man who died, Michael C. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Bordane, too. Michael Cade with the skull. Yes. Huh? Omar. Oh, man. Omar from the wire, but what's his real name? Michael Williams.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Michael, Michael, King. William. He had a show like that, too. That was really, really dope. And I like that because. You know, I've watched this, brother. I've really got to get your name. I've watched you.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I know you don't know, but Fadjo watches you all the time. It's a show on YouTube where the man go to Africa. He go to Cuba. He go to Colombia. I'm learning so much about the world watching this dude. Black brother, he goes abroad, and there's a whole black community in Colombia. He's all African, Spanish speaking, and he up in there to Choco.
Starting point is 01:30:59 He in Cuba. He in Cape Verdea. That's beautiful. He in Puerto Rico. He is Santa Domingo. This guy go all over, and I watch him to learn the real. Like, they go into the town,
Starting point is 01:31:12 and they're not just glorifying the bad shit or the dish. They're just showing you what it is. I mean, you come with a juice. Yo, there's the juice from here. This is the meal from over here, and this. And I learned so much from this guy on YouTube. I'm going to find out his name because I said to myself,
Starting point is 01:31:30 I got to big this guy up. Not that he needs me because he's doing great on there. But I love watching shit like that and learning. I might go to Cape Verdea now because I've seen that episode. And it was such beautiful water and beautiful flowers. You know, I'm into the flowers of the water and everything. But that's his name, Cammoor. Mori Martin is his name?
Starting point is 01:31:55 You sure I got the right one? Show me his picture. I don't want to get the wrong guy props. Because there's a lot of them. That's dope, man. I didn't know that Omar had a show like that. Oh, yeah, he did. And he was almost like, what's that channel?
Starting point is 01:32:11 Nah, this ain't the guy I'm talking about. Nah, it was a different guy. This ain't got no money like this. This guy got fancy suits and all that. My guy's a regular guy. nine to five he go out there and he make it happen
Starting point is 01:32:28 he ain't the one shout out hard rock bet you want to bet on the games and all that NBA predictions this year you jump out the window future who you think
Starting point is 01:32:38 gonna take the east who you think gonna take the west who's gonna win the chip rookie at a year defensive just just early you know it's still all right
Starting point is 01:32:46 so east the Knicks the Knicks got to take it this year they got to take the east We ain't disagreeing me with that one, they got to take. The Knicks got to take it. This is the year.
Starting point is 01:32:58 But, you know, who? Who? Say no more. I'm with you. Who? So, and then in the West, the West is tricky, but I think it's still early. I like the Rockets. Amen.
Starting point is 01:33:12 It's too bad that that point guard, Fred Van Fleet, Fred Van Clee got hurt. Cleve. Yo, he called him. Cruel shoe. No, he's very. Man Cleet. Yo. No, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:33:30 Yo, what's his name? The lights can do from up in Toronto. Van Fleet, close enough, God damn it. Van Cleef and Van Fleet, the same shit. He's a hell of a player. That's my dog, man. Van Fleet and Van Cleef is the same shit. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Yeah, that's fucked. He won the chip in Toronto. He's a very great player. But finally, finally, Kevin Duran is making the difference. Finally, they put a-in- Yeah, he went on the team. He won a chip for free over there at Golden State. Katie.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Ever since then, we've been waiting for the match. I don't got nothing to do with this. No, I'm telling you the truth, because he's going to kill me. Yo, listen, it don't matter to me. He's finally. Climbing it. I love you. I'm not a part of it.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Listen. He fits in that system. He went to fucking Phoenix stunk it up to all in places. I'm keeping it a buck with you. But finally, the chemistry, he was the right piece. I'm not saying he ain't one of the greatest of all time. I'm just talking about fitting in with a system right now. He's looking like a superstar with that.
Starting point is 01:34:48 But they picked the right guy for that. system okayc and Denver to me out the west somebody one of these two is coming out the west that's it nobody they ain't beating them at the end of the day that towel be over their head and they'll walk out the tunnel like they always do
Starting point is 01:35:06 but MVP prediction my MVP of the NBA for the next four to five years is called Wimba Yama if Wimba Yama doesn't get hurt it's a rap It is a wrap.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yeah, just give him all the awards. Give him everything. Wimba yamba. You see this guy, your butter. 7.7. You missed what you came late. You know, he's punching. You know, this guy's coming like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:35:35 He's over here, and it's all, by the way, somebody's trying to score. He's smacking shit. This guy, it's his league. It's his league. There's nobody else. Nobody else. You got to get a little bit stronger. Wimba yamba, MVP.
Starting point is 01:35:48 New York Knicks championship. Who else? We talk about rookie of the year. Got to be if he plays. He asked his prediction. How you took his answer? I'm sorry, he said the Knicks. Who else?
Starting point is 01:36:02 What's the question? Question is who you think's going to win the chip? Who's coming out the West? What you said, Houston. I said Houston. Who's MVP of the league? Wemby. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:36:14 What he did? You on drugs. I'm not on anything. Who's your answer? MVP. Tell me now. Who's your MVP of the fucking league? Luca. Oh, she's. Luca? Luca. He ain't winning shit.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Near his win me. Look at the numbers, though. Yo! Yo, what? Look at these numbers. Luca looking good. Let me tell you. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. Because the biggest shit, the euphanum. Okay. You're going back there, though.
Starting point is 01:36:42 All right. Now, the youth, they're stuck out of that area, dog. You're not listening to me. The euphanum. Last couple of years was saying Michael Jordan ain't the greatest he was playing against white boys. I didn't hear that. I heard that.
Starting point is 01:36:57 He played against what's Carl Malone, the white boys stocked into this. The biggest shit they're saying in the hood is he was playing against white boys. They try to act like Larry Bird wasn't white. He wasn't good. He was? I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Yo, Kiss, you're outside. You should know this. Larry Bird is white and white. Your nephew, say the truth. They say that MJ wasn't the greatest because he played against white niggas. Right now, they got white niggas busting their ass busy, nigger on TV every day.
Starting point is 01:37:32 The Joker, Luca, you know the move. He ain't white. Them niggas are white. They're from Yugoslavia, nigger. You know what a shirt is the do to you? They are white. That's a different white. That's not, we're not talking about,
Starting point is 01:37:47 All-American. No, no, no, no, it's a different white. Yeah, that's not the same white. That's Serbian. Yeah. They're different white people down. Yeah, now we got. Now we got different white people.
Starting point is 01:38:00 We got different. Very good. We got very different whites. He called that fleet. There's Confederate. Oh, fuck. Howdy here? All of them shit's got a different white, nigga.
Starting point is 01:38:11 They ain't this. What are you? Yo, bro. For you to go around the world and don't know that, it's killing me. No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about what they have. White people. What I've been hearing in the hood,
Starting point is 01:38:25 yo, MJ, the greatest is the old time. He used to play white boys. He used to just, you got to stop thinking you ain't hear that. I didn't hear that. I heard that my, I owe that every day, by the way. I'm in the studio every day with 20 haters. These guys are telling that shit all the time. All right, cool.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Now I'm looking at TV. You just call Luca the MPP. If it ain't Luca, their next minute is Joker. I ain't called him the MVP. All right, MVP, he's a white boy. I don't know if he's from Yugoslavia or Serbia or whatever. I'm looking at a white boy bawling. When I look at Joker, he's a white boy bawling.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I don't give a fuck of these from Texas, the Middle America, whatever. He's a white boy. They are telling me that Michael Jordan is not the greatest of all time because he was busing white boys' ass. Not pause. I wasn't there. I never heard it. I heard it.
Starting point is 01:39:14 He's even the youth said they didn't. see him or something like that. So, Brian and Colby and this and a... I never heard. They said he wasn't nice because he played against white people. That didn't even make sense. I know I've heard that. Stockman and some of them white people
Starting point is 01:39:28 and some of the nicest white niggies ever played. Kerr. Kerr was on his team. Horny Hornet. Corny Hornet. Cooney, Hornie, Hornie was nice. He was nice. Kerr.
Starting point is 01:39:40 What was my man on Chicago? The boy, that boy was nice. Paxon. Paxon was nice, but no one. What's the other guy, Tony? Tony Cucose. He's a regular white guy, too, right? I never said the white niggas ain't nice.
Starting point is 01:39:54 You're talking to the wrong guy. I'm telling you what they talk about your barbers up. I'm not talking about what I'm not saying. He needed a cold study. That's what the barbers shop is saying. He need a cold studies clap. Serbia, Serbia, that's a different white. Croatia, that's a different, they've been through some shit over there.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Listen, you ever met the hundred. Hong Kong's Mongolia. You're talking about the wrong guy. I've been all over the globe. I know what you're talking about. I'm just telling you, all right. Let's start working a year. I'm giving it to the white boy if he ball like he's supposed to.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Cooper. Cooper. Who are you giving it to? V.J. Edgecombe doing work. He ain't getting the same kind of publicity, but he's fucking dominating right now. He's nice, but I like, I like, I like, I like, Cooper. I like cool. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers,
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Starting point is 01:44:56 Enter now at iHeartpodcastawards.com. DJ Callet had a rule. DJ Callet was already rich. And he DJ on the thing in the radio. I don't give a full. fucking be here at the flu the mumps the web he would not take a day off DJing because he always told me yo there's somebody more hungry of me he said somebody gonna come out here and DJ's so crazy and they're gonna take my slot and LeBron caught a little sciatica and let Reeves and
Starting point is 01:45:33 them boys go and them niggins out here scoring 51 damn This shit. What are you don't want me to know? This is why this is the number one podcast. We don't hide this shit. LeBron fucked up. I am telling you he might be on the trading block now. Without him knowing, okay, you don't think so?
Starting point is 01:45:57 They're not doing that, Jada. Jada. Okay. No. Okay. Can I speak my peace? Go ahead, go ahead. Can I speak my peace?
Starting point is 01:46:07 Of course. Can I speak? No, no. Hons on the trading block. I ain't on no damn trading block, dog. He ain't never getting trained. They let these guys go who's getting $2 right. He's never getting trained.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Okay, can I say something? They just, they scored a fifth ball. I'll be a next thing, by the way. All right, so what if that's cool. I'm going to tell him in this straight, you think I'm scared of wrist ball? It's not about being scared. It's about saying something stupid.
Starting point is 01:46:33 It's bronze on the trading. I'm not saying nothing stupid. I'm telling you that I'm going to ask him. You just said he was on the training. Like you spoke to somebody. LeBron took a couple of days off, and we, did you know that Austin Rees could score 51 points and 40 points a game? Did you know? You've been watching all the games.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Did you know? Well, hello. We know now. So you rather have. You know what? So you think they'd rather lose a LeBron just to have LeBron? Because if LeBron come and try to take the game over, it's a rap. Same old Lakers.
Starting point is 01:47:09 This shit, they run in my. right now, it's a new latest. And I speak. If LeBron don't come in there, play his position. It's eight games. It's eight games. What Brown is in right now is one of the teams when he wins the chip. You don't got to do that much.
Starting point is 01:47:25 He don't got to do shit. He was doing everything when he was winning the gym. What time you was watching? He always has to teams. No, that's young LeBron. I'm talking after he's got with Wade and Bosch and everybody else, he gets the teams where he can save. his gears to the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:47:42 they can hold it like they're doing now. When they engage, it's something you can't live. That's your early predictions, shoot me, whatever, fuck the comments up, this,
Starting point is 01:47:51 this, that LeBron James is getting traded by the L.A. Lakers, soon as he goes out there, stick it up, my nigga. He got to get a whole new phone.
Starting point is 01:47:59 You better get a whole new phone. That boy gone. He's gone. His phone is about them. His phone is going to catch your fight. He's gone, brother. He showed it.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Run, I don't got nothing to do it. Yo, listen. I love you. Man, bitch. He let the chin out. Everybody. I don't got nothing to do it. He spoke this chin out.
Starting point is 01:48:19 He ain't getting traded. He spoke this gym out. They're going to, you know, Marlon Brando going to come back from the deaf and shit. And all them, Jack Nicholson's and all them guys. They're going to be like, yo, we don't. I'm trying to tell you. Let them sit out of two more weeks and let them kids keep scoring 50-something. Come back in the game, and them niggies, they're scoring 12 points, running by him behind,
Starting point is 01:48:40 Brown and keep losing. They're not doing that. Five games, the 82 games is a big difference, dog. The Knicks traded Patrick Ewing. Chicago Bulls traded. Who? Scottie Pippen. Not Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Michael Jordan went to Washington. He left. Yo, these teams don't give them to Washington. These teams, if it's something, this is awesome. Listen. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Something.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Oh, shit. Something. You fucking, dog. You tweaking right now. If it's something the NBA has taught you, it is zero to no loyalty. You haven't been watching. When is your time? It's the NBA and then there's LeBron.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Have you been watching? That's what you thinking. All right. And I'm trying to tell you. You act like you haven't been watching what he's doing. That's what you thinking. Can you answer my question? That's what you thinking.
Starting point is 01:49:37 What the, how powerful is he dustfall? Little sciatica. How powerful has he been? Not no more. I'm telling you right now. They put the young boys on and get on the floor. We can't get, all right? He can get Austin Reeves out of it right now.
Starting point is 01:49:52 No, he can't. I bet you. No, he can't. Not no more. Sorry. Sorry. Not right now, baby. Not right now, baby.
Starting point is 01:50:00 I'm a LeBron fan. You don't see that white lady? She's on his chest. Genie. Where the Homer? They ain't touching Austin Reed. Breaking news. They're breaking news.
Starting point is 01:50:12 It ain't woged no more. It ain't wos no more. All right. He's something years. Okay. He got 20 years of being great. No matter. They don't just get fit.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Fat Joe sold millions of records, walked in Atlantic. One day they took the poster down and it was T.I. Nigger, you got it. They still didn't take his poster that. You got this fucked up. Your day comes. You bugging. He poked his cheek out.
Starting point is 01:50:39 He got the most points. Let them see. You get up crazy, we're going to see. He passed Corrine. Okay. That's all I'm going to tell. 20 more games. 20 more.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Yo, we're talking about the shit viral. Okay. Tutank the fella, I know how the shit go up. Stop. I know how this go up. Let them roll because they're going to fry his after that's one anyway. Two time tell. I know it.
Starting point is 01:51:02 I know how it go. Don't stop me in the middle of a process of a little. of elimination. You think the comments. These guys are scared to talk like this. They're about to get the gizzole of this thing. Oh, shit. When this comes on, they're going to kill.
Starting point is 01:51:19 You came a time. It came a time. I'm not crazy. You are crazy. You are crazy. No, no, no, no. K. Kay.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Kay. I was 21 years old, about 22. I walked in the Apollo Theater. I got a rope chain on. Wow. Hold up. I walked in the Apollo theater. I got a rope chain on.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Pause, I see a guy from the back His neck is this big He turned around and I said Holy shit That's Mike Tyson He's Iron Mike Six years later Kenneth Johnson
Starting point is 01:51:52 Was knocking him out It ain't the same shit I'm trying to tell you don't get paid 2025 for what you did in 2018 Or 19 or whatever You're a diehard You're a diehard
Starting point is 01:52:08 Laker fan, Rich. If LeBron comes in, hold up. Tell me it me, tweak. You're the actually Most Lawyer fan. Tell me's tweaking. You're a Dallas fan after they, you know, not so good. Tell me me's tweaking. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Tell them. LeBron comes in the 20, they keep going. 20 games, Austin Reed, 51. The other dudes playing, they play. LeBron come back and start that shit, and y'all keep losing. And y'all can't do it no more. It's the old LeBron. You know, we got to understand this, this stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:38 The coach's going to trade it? He got the coach. He picked the coach. Who's going to trade him? It's a new day. Who the fuck's going to trade them, bitch? They ain't going to trade them. He didn't even play yet.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Let him play. Yeah, he didn't even play a game. He got him traded. He put him on the block. He didn't even see what he's going to do. It's not even the first quarter. They traded everybody in history. They didn't trade LeBron.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Okay. They didn't trade Jordan. They didn't trade Kobe. It's mad niggies. and trick. LeBron ain't a Laker. They traded them
Starting point is 01:53:10 to replace the When LeBron When LeBron hangs it up It goes back to Akron. He ain't a Laker like Kobe. When it's all set and done that fucking Raptor that shit going up in Cleveland
Starting point is 01:53:23 They ain't going up in the Lakers. That other cities, though. He's LeBron. He did something nobody did. Business-wise, all that shit. God bless LeBron. But they're not going to trade.
Starting point is 01:53:34 God bless LeBron. I did a show with him on Stars, he gave me the opportunity. Can't even trade him, matter. You're alleged. I'm out of here. He can't even trade. He can't get traded.
Starting point is 01:53:44 You're saying that with one boot on. He can't get traded. Pull out on two times, fellas. Can he get... What are you talking about? He's on the trading. Okay. He can't fucking get traded.
Starting point is 01:53:57 He can't get traded. He protected himself? He can't get traded. Good. How about that? Man, they're really mad now. I'm like... Jeannie Buss, Jeannie Buss looking at this shit.
Starting point is 01:54:10 She's not in front of Gini Buss like, you, this shit is crazy. We can't trade them for the 51ers? You got to do 51ers for years. You just better know, Austin Reeves. You already making Austin Reeves learn from Jada kiss. Yesterday's price is not today's price. Austin. Yesterday's price is not today's price.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Austin Reeves. Today's price. It's doing great. Man, let's talk about the Noah's Art Foundation. No, no, no, no. Y'all can't get hype like this. And now we're going to talk about foundation. No, y'all not going to do it like that.
Starting point is 01:54:48 I'm not coming in talking about foundation after this debate. I'm just happy to be here. I don't want to talk about charity. I don't want to talk about charity. This is, I'm listening. This is awesome. I came on a podcast, but I love this shit. I love this shit.
Starting point is 01:55:04 I love this shit. Yeah, I love this shit You know, I didn't realize it was going to get like this I didn't realize how passionate it was about basketball Like, holy shit You guys are really, we really passionate about this shit And with that being said, this ain't that That ain't this
Starting point is 01:55:25 It's cracking kiss, God damn it Make some noise for our brother, Joaquin, noise Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, Fudder, come in Hey Fudder, I'm talking about Aida all the time Hey, butter, tell him about your book. Hey, brother, right here, right here, right here. You know he's from all of him when he's coming with the pink sweats. I love you to death.
Starting point is 01:55:46 St. Joe, don't turn nothing off. Tell him your book. Go ahead, buddy. Butter, tell him whether you can find it. No, no, you need the mic. I like that shit. A whole lot of games. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Get right. Get right. Let me get out of it. Joe Keen, no one. Love, brother, always, man. Thank you. Oh, brother, love. Right quick.
Starting point is 01:56:08 You always know that. Quick. A. Butter, he's in the building. Harlem's final of this terrorist squad's own. Shout out to Tony Rosa. He let us borrow him. Yes, sir. Tell us about your book.
Starting point is 01:56:20 I got a book out right now called A Whole Lot of Game, trying to put the kids on and the next generation on how to, you know, transition and look at entrepreneurship and financial literacy in a different way. Who's the guys you connected with on the first? financial literacy. On our block, Mokafar Bank. Yeah, I'm tapped in with them
Starting point is 01:56:41 and we're doing some good different things within the community. So, you know. They brought up from player to player. From young kid right now who'll be the next hottest in the city, this and this and that
Starting point is 01:56:52 or all around. Give me one thing you could tell them not to do to get into the NBA. What should they avoid to get into the NBA? Because you're the one guy
Starting point is 01:57:05 I always go too that I say, should have been in the NBA, but didn't make it to the NBA because, you know, you was a star in Harlem. Like, you was in the NBA in Harlem. All the girls want you, everybody with you, Cameron, your cousin, this, this, that. What bit of advice would you give some kids
Starting point is 01:57:25 coming up in the game that got a lot of potential to get to the NBA, what they shouldn't do? What they shouldn't do is focus on what, others are saying, stay true to yourself, you know what I'm saying, continue to learn, be more of a listener. That was one of my mistakes when I was young. I didn't really listen too much. So, you know, as you get older, you don't want to sit back and say, oh, if I were to do this, nah, be honest, you wasn't listening. Accountability, you know what I mean? That's really like a big main thing for me to help the next generation with and spread that word about
Starting point is 01:58:04 just being accountable. When you start to be accountable, and you're a girl. Facts. Richie Parker. Richie Parker. Nah. Richie Parker should have been the NBA.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Kareem Reed, we went and got him a try out with the Knicks. Yeah. They don't know. I took a guy off the street, but pulled them in with Isaiah Thomas, gave him a trial. Isaiah said, man,
Starting point is 01:58:27 this guy came in smelling like blunts. We can't do it. You know what I'm saying? You know, NBA different. Man, I just talked. You told you, Tony Parker ate a bean for breakfast, bro. Like, he was eating asparagus for fucking lunch. Kareem Reid coming off of Harlem.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Yeah, you're the man in Harlem. But when they running them drills in the garden, it's shit different. Hey, I don't know if you remember, but Kiss, he had Rough Riders. He had the first father and son that we ever seen, which was Steve Burke Senior and Steve Bird Jr. Let's go to him, man. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about my brother?
Starting point is 01:59:00 Stick to the versus. Don't talk about coaching at the Rucker, me stick to the versus. Stick to the versus. Don't talk about the fucking coach. You definitely, you had Jamal Tinsley. I got to give you your props.
Starting point is 01:59:16 You know what I mean? Paul Tisley was dead nice. Talk slow to him, brother. Serious satellite. Shout out to Kenny Satterfield. Listen, don't slow to him, buddy. I got to give him like chipper sweet. Those were, I mean, we had the best of the same.
Starting point is 01:59:30 But he did have some dogs. I got to keep in real. Hey, butter, the other day, I forgot his name and I don't want to get killed. But the other day, I'm at the Knit game. And they playing Cleveland. And one of the guys that used to play at the Rucker is the assistant coach. Omar Cook. Omar fucking.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Cook. Holy shit. Let me tell you something. I grabbed him. This is not a mistake. Listen to me, joking. I watched him in the streets. And he sees you don't know his name.
Starting point is 01:59:59 He's going to be mad. No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, I'm fried. Niggas, no, I'm tried. I don't remember my name. I'm keeping it rear with you. When this man came up to say what's up the fat Joe, I almost cried, well.
Starting point is 02:00:16 I looked at him and I said, I say, you the coach? He said, yo, I'm the coach. I was like, congratulations, man. God bless you, man. Like, I can't believe it. It's Omar fucking. Cook. And I went, I told my wife, I told 100 people that day, I was like, yo, this kid used to play at the Rucker. I can't believe I don't know his name. I knew you would know
Starting point is 02:00:40 his name. I should have called you at a time so I don't look stupid. You got Shamgard. He's doing with Orlando. I see him. I don't know if I'm big in the up no more. You got Royale Ivy. You know what I mean? He's always been coaching assistant coaches. He was in a football net. He was going to listen. You know what I mean? Royale Ivy. He used to play with Cardoza with the Texas. You know what I mean? Rose is one of the greatest coaches. Always shout out Tony Rosa. Always.
Starting point is 02:01:05 But hold up. Jakeem, hold up. Always. Tony Rosa, one of the greatest coaches. But Tony Rosa, who somebody I respect too much for coaching, today we put a Terror Squad uniform on A-Butter. He was the Indian man crying when the TV came off. He had another one.
Starting point is 02:01:25 It's another Spanish nigga that was with Tony's brother, Rock Rose. Oh, my God. When he walked in, I worked on him all winter, took him to Miami, drop-top, Bentley, steaks and lobsters, whatever you want. This, I work, because he used to kill us. He was the Territ Squad killer. I mean, we went triple four overtops to the lights game with. So, BMF.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Him and Stephan and Warberry. BMF was throwing money out the helicopter at his pool party, just to reiterate on what he was saying. Shout out the butterfew-go and call it. They hugged me for folk. I said I started Memorial Weekend. They called me up. I got death threats from the Jamaican and the mafia.
Starting point is 02:02:08 They called me up. Said, Butafuco, what's with you, Joel? You erase a mind in history. I said, no. Butterfewko, thank you for being one of the biggest promoters we did Memorial Weekend together. But you, you've seen some shit out there. But what I'm saying is the day, that part, because he was the terrorist squad killer. The day he walked in with that jersey.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Tony Rosa couldn't believe it because you coached you since, what, high school? Since I was like 14, 15. I used to play for the Mustang. Shout out to the Mustang. And I love, love, love Tony Rosa. And I wasn't happy about it, but I couldn't. This guy was going to beat us. He was going to.
Starting point is 02:02:46 He was going to take one of the chips. You know what I mean? If we were being honest, there was a lot of y'all. You know what I mean? But he was the real coach out there. I had to buy him out. I had to bring him. He was killing us.
Starting point is 02:02:59 He's going up against Stefan Morberry. three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed, three-pointed. I said, bro, Joe, if you can't beat him, join him. We've got to join A-Butter. Terror Squad. I had to get that man off the market. Yeah, he had a team out there, too. I don't know if you remember Pearl Hall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Andre Barrett and all of them. Just shout out to them. They're assistant coaches. You know what I mean? They're out there in the league. I thought, oh, it should have really, really went. He was there. Now, he was there, but I mean, like, really, you know what happened? You want to know what happened to Andre Barrett?
Starting point is 02:03:35 Because I'm a huge Andre Barrett fan. He didn't do him. So he came in the league, and he was doing what they told him to do, past the ball, this, this, that. I was waiting for him to do him. And so he was such a company guy, he brought him in, but he never did him. And if he would have did him, he would have had a longer career in the NBA.
Starting point is 02:03:59 How proud of us was this Skip to Maloo? Skip to Maloo caught a check too, huh? He caught a real fucking check. Where in Houston? Houston. Skip is probably the greatest story in Rutgers. In Rucker history and streetball history. He's the one guy that I've seen doing it.
Starting point is 02:04:21 Remember the year we had Skip? He came and played. That's when he won a champion. Again, three other guys, I got to go up against the big show I play. Look. And Skip was like, that crowd couldn't, and he passed it to Steph. And Steph used to do that shit where he'd go low and do some shit. It was almost like Matrix.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Remember that shit? The way he used to Jordan. So that's how he used to come in. Then they passed it to Ring. Ream due to circle up. It was just too much. It was like Camelot, my nigga, Royalty. We had too many more.
Starting point is 02:04:54 one day we put our step on with AI out there they was killed right one day we had a game with step on and AI they were the two best points carrie thompson shout out the natural controller you know what I mean I got to make sure rest of peace to Greg Marius and Ali Moe man a man of honor we can't talk bad in the rock nation building but anybody else would have found a way to give that game to jZ and rock nation or cancel it Or this, the man said, y'all, Fat Joe and them one. That took a lot of heart for that man to say that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:05:33 So shout out Greg Marys. I also went when he was passing away. He was there. I went to the hospital. He requested me to go there. And man, man, what a good man, bro. What a great man. Greg Marius and the whole family.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Peace, y'all. This ain't that? That ain't this. It's eight butter and cracking kiss. Let's go. Put the music for MASH on right now. Damn, no, no, no, no. We'll hear of it.
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