Joe and Jada - Joe and Jada - BEST OF MAY: Tupac & Biggie stories, Jada's iconic Verzuz, Joe's courtside Knicks seats

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Presenting the BEST moments from the first month of the Joe and Jada podcast. The two hip hop legends shared stories about Tupac Shakur, The Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, DMX, and Big Pun; debated the merits of flying coach and sitting courtside; had a back-and-forth with Joe Budden and Charlamagne Tha God; and gave listeners an inside look on how the podcast came together. Tap in! 2:00 - Joe and Jada's origin story 5:30 - Inside studio sessions with Biggie & Jay-Z 12:45 - Joe sitting courtside at the Knicks game with 50 Cent 19:00 - Birdman & Toni Braxton's secret marriage & divorce 28:00 - Charlamagne Tha God twisting Joe's words 31:30 - Jada was with Biggie on March 1997 LA trip 36:30 - Did Jada call Joe out at The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz? 38:45 - WILD DMX & Big Pun stories 47:30 - N.O.R.E.'s cousins bully Joe 54:00 - Travis Hunter got married with no prenup?! 1:03:00 - How Joe & Jada met Tupac 1:09:30 - Why Joe will NEVER fly coach 1:13:15 - Jada can't handle Joe's Tyson Fury comparison (Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.) Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuiltanetwork/ytb/ #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. A fully Black. fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcasts from IHeartMedia to Hella Black, hella queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In the comments, people want to know how we got to know how we got. to this how we how we how this show came about well if we do we want to tell the truth of course we want to tell the truth well before any other rappers was doing sports shows or whatever the

thing me and jada it's true it was we were supposed to do a sports show we're supposed to do a sports show long time ago couple of years ago so this idea came up five years ago i don't know if it's before every other one crack you're taking it you're taking you're taking you're taking you're taking So where that I don't know. I don't know if somebody's going to say, we have a show over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, see, they come, they're shooting that.

You're giving them the gun to shoot at. Listen, what I'm saying is this show has been talked about. No, yeah, we're supposed to get, for maybe five years ago. Do you know as a guy, since we're talking about that, as a guy who think, what's my man me? It's somebody that think we stole this already. Don't do that.

It's not a hit If you don't get somebody You know, I'm upping my lawsuit shit up Like, you know, they got lawsuit Like, you know, they got lawsuit, like, um, insurance. What? It's so much a time of lawsuits.

No, you need lawsuit insurance. I'm not bullshitting you. I'm upping my shit up because it's just lawsuit mania. Like, you're right. This shit out of control right now. Like, you know, somebody thinks we stole their idea we might as well not answer that question, right? Because this shit out of control.

Look at my lawyer. Let me tell you something. I've been watching, you know, everybody could do what they want to do, right? But I've been watching even Joe Schmo shows with 24 views and things like that. And they just all like, they're mad that we get into the bag. And they're like, oh, Joe and Jada, they're just, I'm looking at them. Joe Schmo, these guys, they got two cousins watching them. They got two cousins and the aunt watching them.

And they over here like, y'all, this, they're trying to get clickbait off of us. We came out to get, you knew we was coming, right? Anywhere in this business of entertainment, music, art, movie, if it's a bag there, we're coming. If it's rubber duckies, we're coming. For the bag. And so you got to know, we got, we done did this. I asked Jada, he said, authenticity. That's it.

We're going to talk about our perspective and what's going on in life. And some people seem to like it. We went number two in the country the first time off of one EP. I'm walking around Harlem. I'm walking around the Bronx. They're coming up to me. They love in the show. They love what we do.

You know, it's room for everybody. Right? it's room for everybody even to joe schmose one day you might be the biggest in the game as if right now train is coming train is coming baby that's what i was trying to tell you when i was playing you that saw the train is coming baby the train i said y'all is there's nowhere else to look i always think about the late great dj clarke kent super producer Press and peace to my brother. God's favorite, man.

God's favorite. You know, this guy was the best in the world. He passed away. But I always think about when he said, because, you know, he did it all. Like, he was cool with Biggie, Jay-Z. Like, he put them on. He started with Cool Herk.

He's seen his whole shit from hip-hop. He wasn't that old, man. He wasn't. He's one of Cool Herk's original DJ. Superman Carkin was down with Cool Herk. that's how far eagle back i met dj call and dj nasty at a cool at a uh clarkin battle he had a battle and we came up that's how i meant calid online around flojo time and so he said that biggie and j z both his man's and biggie would be like yo why you say

j z but he used to tell biggie that j z's better right and biggie would be like how you think he nicer than me he'd be like he'd be like like, yo, because you're a rapper. He's an MC. He's like a poet. You know, this is early, Jay-Z, before all the hits. He's a poet, whatever the case may be. And so, to me, the difference of an MC and a rapper is an MC is,

and you have huge hits too, but you more, you got your hand on the third rail, Talib, Qa, Jadaqis, Common, these are KRs. emcees. What he's referring to is the guys on Billboard that crossed over and we think they commercial. What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and Jay Z where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than son. But he was like, nah, Jay, nicer than you. He's an MC. Of course, this is before success. What do you think the difference between an MC and a rapper is? I think an MC is just what it means. You can troll it in the maestro.

You can do anything. You have diversity. You have, you know, you can do different. You can do a beer commercial. You can do an R&B feature. You can do it all. A rap is just playing with words. You know, the ability to put words together.

MC can control the crowd. He can have the crowd in his hands. He can engage with the crowd. Yeah, but Nelly. Not just even the crowd would just... Hey, it's all about the money! Now you're going into being an entertainer. You know what I mean?

Is it an entertainer? Is it a rapper? Is it an MC? Oh, is it a song writer? Now you got... You know, Pop. And you got people that wrote the song that you never even see.

Yeah, Pac was everything. That's a fucking... A actor, a dancer, rap, Pac had all the tools of everything. He was everything. He can do drama. You can make music. Because I'm trying to find out

who's the perfect one? Like, so you say pop, that's why I so many. That's like a Picasso. Yeah. It's like, it's the best song right in the game.

You got guys like, Hove, who and I Love the Doe was talking about, you know, we cop the hottest Vs, then we play Monopoly with real cash

and that big come on his shit, right? Was you ever there for any of them like big song? I was there for hypnotize. I was there when he wrote with Hypotide. Was you there for I Love the Doe or anything like that? I was dead.

I was dead. for I loved it, though. No! We was actually in the, we was in the middy room. You know what I mean? They both was there? Yeah, they lay,

it was no fucking emails and none of that there. You had to be there. So you seen them both going at it right there? It wasn't battling and none of that. They was trying to make

a hit song, which they did. Did you see any paper? We was mad. Did you see any paper in rhymes? No. I didn't, I didn't. It was all off the top.

No, listen. I didn't see, listen, you're going to tell a real story or not? Everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood for a reason. Listen, we was in the middy room. We was the young locks. And Hove kept coming in our room, like, giving us an update of what's going on. Like, yo, I got to go first.

I'm about to go first, this, that. And he's like, no, he's going there and kill that shit. I mean? And that's what it, he was probably going to the bathroom. Then he'd stop in the mid. kicking with us, you know what I mean? And we actually seen Angela Wingbush. That's not a sample.

That's her singing, I love the dough. We've seen her laying a hook. We've seen DMX laying pray and pray for my downfall. That ain't a sample evil. We've seen them record that live. We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life After Death. There's only a couple features on there. So we love Big Forever, you know what I mean?

We think for the... Been around for the process of life after death and slightly before that. It was a beautiful thing. But, yeah, we was in the studio the day they made. I was in the stew for Love the Doe. I think I was in the stew. Eva, I was there for a lot of them

or when we would come for our session, we were here what he just did. Go on Kiss Good Night. A lot of them. Of course, we was there for last days because we featured on. Yeah, but you know, when I think about when we talk about the perfect,

MC, the perfect rapper, perfect performer, entertainer, came up a lot today. I think DMX shows, which one of them DMX songs. You was there every song he recorded. Not every, oh, my, I was there for a lot. Shut him down, open up, shop. I don't think he wanted to do that. When Swiss first boarded to him, he didn't want to do it.

He didn't want to do that? I don't think, at first I don't think he was like happy to do it into it when it was done. When I tell you, it was a major hit. And at this time, I was still halfway in the Bronx. So I'm at the car wash. And when I tell you, every single car, I don't care, it was a Spanish dude that would be playing salsa. They was playing that shit.

Like, that song had me the disheas. You know how you go Fordham, bro? Where you go in Yonkers when you want to see if your record was popping? Like, Benjamin, you came outside with it. You go to Fordham. You go to Fordham. I used to do that. If I drop a record,

you see the cars coming up and down the hill. I stand in and see who's playing my album, whatever. Yeah, up and down the hill, yeah. Man, I have never witnessed in the history of the Bronx. Stop. Shut him down. Yo, I was dizzy. It was everywhere.

Like, that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song. That was that shit right there. You're the king of New York. You're the king of everywhere. Let me tell you something, bro. They're fashion week. Everything come down here. Everything touch here.

So, you know, last night you go to the Knit game. They got the Kardashians all front. Like, this is like, let me tell you something. New York got a lot of stars. Like celebrities, big time stars. Like, it's like they putting them up a deck now. They ain't just courtside. It's too many.

There's too many superstars in New York City. If you look at it, the Cardassas is there. The Bad Bunnies is there. The Cardi Bs, the Stephons, the Diss ones. The Sopranos, the Dish, the Tena Faze, the Diss. It's just too many stars in New York City. Now, if we were somewhere else in the B market or C market, that shit opened all day.

The court side is open. This is a hard ticket to get. Hard to get a ticket Hard to get a ticket I heard that What was the most expensive ticket for the game What 500,000

Something like that 130,000? I don't know It was 54,000 The seat the game I went I was tempted to sell it I would have never

Court a ticket again You know that shit Was 54,000 a seat That's crazy I would never do that I ain't gonna lie to you What? I ain't paying 54 a ticket

Why not Huh Why not Well I've done it I can do a lot With 50 grand Yeah, yeah. New York, Nick, a game, a Nick floor seat experience is like a bucket list of life that, you know.

You could cross that off. I kind of did it for free, so, I mean, I'll take it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know. That's why I would never pay for the ticket. I need a free. Well, sir, let me tell you something, man. I've paid that much even more for boxing matches. No, I don't do that.

You know, this shit is crazy because your man, Egarbalanka, a little. man, Egabalanga, fight Canelo. I'm out there with my family in Vegas. His manager, they gave me some suspect. For me is, I'm not going 10th row. I'm not going 5 row. I got to be front row.

So you want to sell? Because somebody you don't like your enemy, going to come sit, right? You know, we call that the Joe Button seats. You know what I'm second row? I don't even got a hood. I don't even got a hood. Yo, listen.

Them second, third row, that ain't. I can't do it. I got to sit front row. I'll give you my experience. What you call them seats? The Joe Button seats. Them shit's second row. You know,

perfect example. Him and 50 got some shit, and I'm sitting court side of 50 comes sit. He was right behind y'all. Okay, but he's behind. Those were still considered floor seats. Those are anything. I didn't know that.

Is A, A, and B. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but the man has. had a little something going on with 50 and why God put 50 said front row and he's in like third row like that would bother me if I was Joe Buttons. It happened to me before. It happened to me before when I just, what we just squashed. If he didn't bump in the fifth, would he had a nice experience? He got a good seat, but the problem is you got to always expect the enemy might come from, bro. Yo, what are you? No. What are you thinking? Trying to tell you the truth. The enemy will come

front row. Look what happened to Joe Button. That's the only example you can give me. I'm going to give you another one. Okay. I went to a baby face concert. Yo. Hold up. All right. Let me hear it. I got to hear it. I got to hear it. I'm going to a baby face concert. Once again, 50 cent is the

culprit. We just squashed the beef for 50 cent. Everybody's cool. I'm in the second row. Natina got me the tickets. I'm second row. The man come and sit in the front row right in front of me. Yo, crack, what's up? Yo, hi, Mrs. Crack? This, I was

like, oh, never again. Fifth? Yes. It's just fifth, didn't you? No, no, he's just like, it's him. I'm telling you, he might be like, yo, where Jada? Third row? Three C? He'll come to one C. I'm telling you. His guy is notorious for this.

I learned my lesson that night. I was at the Babyface concert I see you on the team that don't ever I don't care if it's Patty LaBelle's Stephanie Mills I'm front row I won't go

I feel it You call that arrogant I feel it I feel it I feel it I am not giving the person the opportunity To sit in front of me It's just I don't know It just I want

It happened to me This is what I'm trying to tell you What happened to Joe button He's standing on that He's standing on that He don't like that shit. You ain't sitting in front of it. That's your shit right there.

I make sure I'll never invite. I went to the, let me tell you, I went to the Belonga fight. The seats cost me, let's just say, close to $100,000 or something, right? But the problem was, you know, usually when you get them tickets, somebody sells them tickets. Obviously, the person who sold me these tickets, I don't know, because we buy them online, was Canello's family. So I'm sitting. You're on a minute. What?

Like this. My wife and my daughter with a hundred Canelo Mexicans they all had sweat suits on like you got Canello this and I'm there like Belonga

for sure I was getting my ass beat for sure the cartel was in that motherfucker I'm sitting there like that I'm like how to my line Chris I'm like how to fuck I get these seats obviously it was somebody

in his crew or his family who sold these seats but yo don't go in there like you're like you got to be very, I told my daughter, I said, yo, be very respectful in here. We might not get out of here.

No, I'm talking about saying they got a hundred Canello front rows. We're the three seats going for Belonga was surrounded. The wife is here, the distances. I'm like, oh, we're going to get, thank God I wasn't one of my friends, because we got pounded out.

You know, back in the hip-hop news, I'm just telling it. Crazy joke! No, no, crazy. Yeah, this is crazy joke. But the Birdman said he was with Tony Braxton for 18 years. She convinced him to get married. He did no paperwork. She got a divorce in two weeks and caught him for mega millions.

He said the fix was in. birdman saying it he's saying he was with a no pre-nup 18 years talking about the guy that don't pay the producers to the last minute up let me stop i love bird man i just it's almost it's almost somebody told me when i when we discussed this story in my house people were saying karma is you're standing on this or this this is no i'm not standing on this i'm not at the divorce bro i'm telling you what the streets is saying and the birdman said the birdman said the birdman said he was with her for 18 years. Married her. He had no paperwork.

She got him. I don't even want to tell you the number. The number's the price of this building. Like, you ain't no regular number. She caught him two weeks. The boss, he had to give her that check. Price of this building. Like a serious, you know. The price of this building is crazy. No. They're serious. The price of a high rise in New York City.

He gave him money like that for two weeks' marriage. I don't know. I didn't really have a comment on that because I don't, you know, aside of my pay grade, correct? I don't really know about it. I'll tell you a crazy story, right? This is crazy, Joe, but this is real. Reality, I don't want to say no names, but people could pick up on this.

So I have a neighbor very successful, like my next door neighbor, very successful. So he wakes me up, says, Joe, yo, come over to my house. we have in a celebration. So I go to his house and it's a bunch of people in his house they almost looked like the movie Us. It was just, they were very upscale and they were of color.

But they were like Phoebe Wallifton of the black community, the Spanish community. They was out of control. I've never seen people like this, right? And so I'm up in there and everybody looked like they got a master's degree

or some everybody's smart whatever this that and so i go up in there and the man's wife he had just sold his company for like 400 million everybody knew it was everywhere and his wife gus the king king king king with the cup and she gives the most beautiful speech i love this man this man's the greatest ever my husband i'm so proud and just like my north my next door neighbor we're all the way up and i was like wow This is great. Seven in the morning on Instagram, the wife files for divorce.

Yo, yo, joke, yo! The next day, after the speech. Premeditated murder. Now, you know, they're going to say I lie, right? They always say I lie. No, I'm keeping it real. They're going to say I'm capping. This is going to number.

Now we go number one, man. No, that's it. I'm just telling. We're going to all the way up. They're saying, they're going to say this, but it's the truth. This really happened in my life. Like, I really was a part of this, and I couldn't understand seven in the morning. I was like, after the speech, but that 400, you know, I guess that's a version of sleeping with the enemy.

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Yo, turn your phone off. It's strictly for us. Off of one week of podcast, I turned into the Wendy Williams of podcast. I just got to be honest with you. I never knew. What am I supposed to do without having a hood? Like, listen, let me tell you something. I don't know how I become Wendy Williams a podcast and then one week, Jay.

I mean, like, my phone is off the hook. Like, every rapper in the world is hitting me up. Like, yo, Joe, I don't like how you said this. I don't like how you said that. I have to hear Angie Martinez, queen of journalists, one of the queens and be like, yo, how do you deal with this

because, you know, by the way, we went number one, you know, it ain't easy being number one but somebody got to do it. So the podcast went number one. So listen,

let me, I'm addressing. What happens to? Scott Joe is crazy. What did I do now? No, listen. Only thing I agree with before you're going to you

because he got something to tell you, but only thing that I did see that I don't think I'm prepared for, is that when they take they're taking stuff and switching it around and making their own you know what I mean like Charlemagne that's what you try to say

I was listening to Charlemagne interviewing Snoop and if we did pull up did you ever say Kendrick surpassed Dre and Snoop and Cube and all of the I was talking about radio play exactly in the last two years

the king he's the king of rap hip hop Like, you can pull up a million interviews where I said the most famous rapper in the universe of rap music is Snoop Doggy Dog. I wonder, why did he do that to us? Nah, you know, we're in that space now, Jada. That's what I'm trying to tell you. They're trying to stick the knife in us.

Yo, Joe Bunton, let me tell you, sir. You all, my friend, I know you 20 years. You've been doing this thing. You ain't sent us no edible. He ain't got to send us no edible. He didn't send us no edible strawberries. He didn't send us anything. He didn't send us no flowers.

He didn't send us no champagne. Where did you get? For one, shout out of them, Joe. Why do you think he's going to send us anything after you named the seats behind the seats after him? You're saying all of this crazy stuff. Where do you think he's going to send us anything? He 800 episodes in. I got to salute the brother.

We're the new guys on the block. We ain't got no disrespect for Joe Button. Now, Birdman, I read. that I came into the studio with them talking about that on the radio. Maybe he's been my friend 20 years. He don't like me talking about him getting divorced.

But I got nothing but respect and love for the birdman. I'm telling you, my phone was shaking. I'm not used to this. Joe, we're still active. You got to, we got love out here. You got to keep the love. We got to keep the love. And, yo,

I did get love. Primetime called us. Dionne Sanders Yes No doubt He loves how we talked about His family His son

And all that He appreciate us And yeah And yeah We grew up violent But that hurt me Because I was like These was the guys

Putting on For our neighborhood And couldn't believe Somebody killed him Senseless murder Which was the one that at all the hip-hop, which is the one that got you

and you was like, wow. Like, I can't believe this happened. By far, for me, it's big. My first time, the locks, it was our first time in L.A. And Big got killed. So you know, he was out there. He was at the party.

We was with him before the day before. We, you know, we was in his, like, the happiest time in the saddest time at one time. Did you not feel like it was dangerous being in L.A.? And he had. had the East Coast, West Coast beef. I felt it was dangerous, but we really didn't know how to, you know what I'm saying? We, we, we, we know what was really going on.

We knew that shit was going on, but we didn't, we never been there. We thought we was heavily protected. We thought we was good, I mean, we thought we was the same way we, I mean, we kind of was with, we had bad boy in, we had D and them. We had a different kind of, I mean, engaged with us. We had extra. We had action protection. Shout out to D and Ice Big J.

You know, they saved my life. Ice Big J. You saved my life one time. I heard that story. That's a real story. They was going to get me. And, you know, I had a lot of beef with the West Coast. I'm probably, and we're not stirring nothing up,

but I'm probably the only rapper from New York that had physical beef with the West Coast. Like real physical war, it went down. Right? So when I go over there, me and punt out there for the Grammys, there's a million cop cars in the street. And, you know, it was like gang beef. So they had a guy with jerry curls, a bubble goose.

It was hot as hell. And the gun was to his. I don't know how there's one million cops out here. They don't see the guy, old dog, from the fucking menace to society. Like, the man in the middle of the street dripping the fuck. fucking Jerry Carol juice with a machine gun with a bubble goose on in the summer and we don't rat

but I'm looking like Jesus Christ don't nobody see and he looked at me like he could not go back to the hood without clapping fat Joe. Not clapping, killing me. He had a machine gun. And so it was a million cops out there I fucked up because we had the mansion. We knew whatever was going to happen

And, you know, don't go out over there and we still, like, dummies, went out. Shout out my brother, Tone, patrol, held it down, all of us. And so I'm sitting out there and the guy's there. There's a girl standing next to me and she sees what's going on. And she looks at me and says, a girl from New York, she said, no, I'm sorry.

She was like, Joe, I'm sorry. I'm sorry this is happening to you. Like, she could probably see, like, death in my face. Like, the guy was, he was trying to figure out how to shoot me and get away from the 1,000 cops, but he couldn't go back to his hood without shooting me. So he was like, he looked like a dog in rage, and then out of nowhere the door opens and D comes out.

And D comes out, he's like, yo, crack, what's up, this, and that. And I looked at him, I said, yo, I just nod at the head. Dee from the Rough Riders, he looks over there. General looks over there, he looks back, and he said, that's for you, crap. I said, yeah, it's for me. He said, yo, Ice Pick is going to turn this corner in a white van. Y'all better just get in there and get out of here, right? So the van pull up.

Ice Pick ain't even know he was saving us, right? He was coming around to get deep. The van pull up, we got in that bitch, like the fucking painting from Good Times. You remember Good Times? They had to sit where everybody was dancing sideways and shit like that. Good time. Like, yo, we slid in that motherfucker. Yo, God was with us.

It was crazy. It was like six or seven of us. We got in that bitch and left in the van and looked back. That guy was so confused. He didn't know where the fuck we went. Because it was like too crowded. We got in the van. I was like, yo, I speak, thank you.

Save my life. You don't understand this. He was like, what happened? I'll say, yo, d'I had the machine gone. They're ready to clap us. This deed told us to get in there. So he took us to the mansion with a couple of blocks away after that. that we say, we went to the Grammys with guns on us.

Me and Big Pun, that picture that you see us looking like superheroes, we actually had hammers on us in the Grammys because that was too much. You know, I'm from Florida, too. I've been in Miami for 22 years, but, you know, Jada at the versus. See, I thought he just shot. Got to me. It's the real New York.

Not the guys that moved down to Florida. I was going to ask them. I'm outside with it. Not those guys. I'm in the crowd like, yo, Jado. Like, what's going on? No love. Dude, I got to run out this building.

Like, he's shooting down the guys, the migrators. He's crazy. With the snow bunnies, we moved down there for the winter. Yo, Jada, man. What you was thinking? You was getting that cam? Like, what you was thinking when you was taking shots? What was you saying?

my mind that day. I wasn't on anything, but the zone I was in was Adderall War mode. It was a very different space I was in that day. I'd never been there before. You know, I always wanted to ask you about that versus. Was it personal? No, not really. It wasn't, those are our brothers. It just, you know, it was a moment, you know. I feel you. Is this like a sports moment? It's a hip-hop moment. Facts.

Let me tell you something. When I sparred with Jowruh. I was staying in the building in Jersey, Uncle Dan's building. When I hit the first floor, the man, the doorman, was like, get them crack. I jumped in the car, the FedEx truck pulled up. Take them to war, crack, drag them. By the time I got a Madison Square gun, I heard so much war, like I was possessed. Like, I walked up in there, I was like, yo, I got to kill them.

I got, like, they hype. That must feel like Belonga feels like that going to a fight or something like that. Like, no, it's the closest thing to fighting. You know, going to like a bird. That's what you said. You was, like, fucking possessed. Yeah, it's just a lot. It was a lot, man.

This week of hip-hop history, y'all. May 19th, man. DMX dropped in 1998, the dog. Always love for the dog. 1980, he dropped his debut album, as dark and hell is high. The importance of that album to me is that, you know, he put us on.

He came and got us, put us, bought us with rough riders, told him, this is, we started. it off like, you know, this who I want to represent with me. And the rest was history. To see where we came from, to see where he came from, he was already there, like Bruce Springsteen and Y.O. We already looked at him as like a rock star. Then fast forward, him being the only or one of the only rappers

that ever do woodstock. That shit is crazy, you know what I mean? That video tape for a lot. will forever mean the world to me because, you know what I mean, he gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation. You know, DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me. DMX stuck a lot of niggins up.

No, but he was already a star. Oh, he did it after he was X? Yes. Oh, shit. It's me, him and pun, in a gas station in Brooklyn. After a show, thousands of people after the show, we in the gas station do comes with some chains

and DMX was like, yo, hold up, y'all. He went and took his chains, came back and started talking to us in the gas station. Yo, DMX. He can't be indicted. He dead, so. No, no, no, he's done.

He dead. I'm just telling you a true story. Like, I got so many DMX. You might have... We got to filter some of these stories, you know, I'm telling you, you might have... You got to have incredible DMX story. I'm not telling you none of them.

The crazy, since we go, I got to give a punch story. Look, when we're... we shot the John Blaze video. DMX showed up. No, listen, this is how long ago it was, and this is how crazy, this was Stashboxes first got invented. He wanted to test his shit out.

It was more before that, but yeah, it was in the 80s we had Stash trust. It wasn't doing what the shits was doing as a technology involved. All right, yeah, so I want to show you the Stash, you want to test his own shit up. He drove, Somebody was driving. He was in the passenger. Let off a four, I don't know what it was.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And wanted to get pulled over. And got pulled over. I said, this nigger's nuts, though. He is nuts. That was the crazy. And what he put it in the stash? Yeah, he had enough in front of the cots.

Let it off, pull it, block it through this. Pull over. I don't know what you're talking about. Officer, this. and they ain't have the shit to make it pop out yet so he was I said this thing

a pun is crazy I just yeah the bins the way to explain it to you the way to explain it to you right is you know how somebody could be a genius

in something and then in just common sense he just don't know what he's like I would go to his house right and he would have

about 30 40 guns in his house if you sat in the pillow was a gun You put your hand on the chicken It was a gun You hit it It was just

And I would sit there Because I really came From the streets I know what Rico Indicements are Indictments are I know what all this is I don't came from all

I mean like They're gonna make a jail Just for you buddy Nah they don't lock rappers up like that They got swimming pools For rappers and all that Tennis courts I'm like yo

You're thinking about The futuristic feds What? And I would tell them like your pun, you're crazy, bro. Then I go around his hood and the cops pull me over. Like, because Pum, one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood, even until he died. He refused to move out the hood.

I was already in Jersey, like, yo, come in Jersey. Birds are chirping. You know, he, nah, I'm in the hood. I'm the realist this. Pun at the crib in the hood, Tim Benz's. Exotic $20,000 dogs and all type of shit. Like, he was big pun, double platinum in the, I mean he didn't care.

And so I would go to his hood and as a respected elder brother, the police pulled me over. So I'm like your officer, why are you putting, yo, Joe, man, you know, you got to stop throwing eggs at the old ladies in front of the supermarket. You know, we know he's the only guy with the bends with the water gun shooting the old ladies. I'm like, yo, I go in this house. I start arguing with everybody in the house. Like, yo, punt, they're going to put you in jail. You're shooting the water guns at the old ladies. They know the only guy with a 500 bends in the fucking sound view, it's you, punt.

You're going, now, he just didn't. He, he would go real from genius to common sense, no sense. Like, I had a real struggle with him and Norrie, because Norrie's also my little brother. When they was together, they was trained. Them two together is nuts. Oh, they used to see me and be like, yo, Joe's the fun killer. He's the fun killer.

No, I don't want you to go to jail and not get to the back. Like, I know what's going on out here. You guys are too crazy. Thank God we ain't have IG back then. I'll tell you a quick story. We had this joint like this. Two days ago, it was hot in New York.

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cocked diesel little Spanish dude dude is walking through with the tank top

like this right I try to look away I already know he makes you turn

yo Joe you got me through my beard I did 26 years this this that

one thing I could tell you before I was a tough guy when I was five years

old I always knew the guys who just came home from jail. How the hell you knew that? No, no, I'm telling you. No, five, you know, these guys got tank tops and they walking like, you know, they

strutting around the thing. I knew this guy just came out of jail. It had to be the same way in y'all. I didn't come in a seat come from the park. You know they come over five years old. I knew that man came home from jail. And it's preferably just before the summer. They're coming out with a tank top and all that.

Well, anyway, he did it. I grabbed him so fast, hugged him. Yo, thank you. I said, you see that? There's a camera in the store. I walked with them two more steps. You see that? It's a camera.

I walked with them two more steps. You see that? It's a camera. I'm not exaggerating. When you come to Richest Joint, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you how I walk them. Maybe halfway to the corner, we passed 10 cameras. I said, brother, can't do nothing no more.

You're going to jail. Look at this. We're on camera. That's what Fat Joe's going to tell you after 26 years. you take that with you if you want. You're not getting away because he's walking down. And now he's in the black haul. He's Puerto Rican.

He just wanted to smoke. I'm just trying to let him know. You're on camera, B. I don't give a hell what. What hand skills you learned in jail? You're going back to jail. You're the 52, man. Yeah, he's coming through with the ass of your brother really politely.

Look, look, look, look. Look, look. It's crazy because Remy came to the thing, And I told her that story before and I said, let me show you this story. She said, what you mean? She came the other day to Rich's Joint. I walked her four stores down

and there was 10 cameras that saw us. I said, yo, you can't do nothing. You can't do nothing. Kids, all right, you want me to be positive. Somebody still try some dumb shit. Kids, if you shoot the place, you're on camera, you're not getting away with it. You're done.

Gone 20 years. your life. You're in a very violent speech today. But we're counseling. We're doing it with counseling, though. I'm trying to do some positive shit here. The king of this podcast shit to me is my brother Noriega, Lefraxon.

When I tell you I don't drink, and any show, I got in Miami his Puerto Rican cousins come And, no, no, listen Listen, you don't know where he had Black hat Puerto Rican, but the Puerto Rican's come My man, Vic, let me explain, son to you.

They literally stepchild me and take over my section, grab the bottles and be like, yo, you ain't drinking this. They know I don't drink. They just house my shit. It's 30 of them and I'm sitting, I'm performing live sitting on the corner. If I'm lucky

to have this inch of the couch to myself. I love them. They come, but they just come and take over my shit. Like, yo, yo, you know,

they start grabbing the champagne and the Aceseating all. You know, drink. You know, you don't care this. Yo, I'm like, the entourage shit. Is the entourage ever going to be dead?

Like the entourage. You're going to need some people to travel. You got to, you need some people to travel with you. Well, the people to travel in the entourage. It's fun going to a festival or going somewhere. Four or five people, but back in the days, deep-locked come with 40-50. Fat Joe Terrisquhar, come 40-50.

Is the entourage days over? Over. Or do we, are we fooling ourselves? Because every time we show up. Everybody, look, I think it's a thing. When you first get in, you feel, no, I'm bringing the whole block. When you start seeing I go, now, I'm just, the hatchet comes out. He's paying for bales

He's doing dumb shit You start asking them off Nowadays My circle so small It's a period Only God can fit in it I've been trying to find the cast I've been trying to find the real

shit you're saying on any other I'm trying to find the pass code to get in my own Circle so small He forgot the past code I forgot the past I still ain't get the privilege of the past It's only God in the past code Period. No.

I can't fuck with these people. They can't circle so small is only enough. It's a period. Only God is in there. I've been trying to crack the past cold. So I can hop up in that shit. That's how small that shit is. Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high-octane world of sports,

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that kind of stuff. But you gave us a story from your neighbor how something happened. He had a nice, you know, hundreds of million dollars lick. They invited the neighbors over, toasting, hitting the thing. The next day,

he gets the schlep. So you don't like to talk about it, which I agree with you, but you want to line me up to talk about... No, no, no. What do you think about Travis Hunter and his babe, you know, what does Jada kiss think about that?

I wish it would be, I hope I wish much success in the NFL It much success in marriage I just don't believe These days in true love no more So I don't believe in true love I don't believe in true love no more like that Meaning that back in the days

The love our parents had Or the love we at least The last sprinkle of love we had Is different now So now everything's Mike away No everything's a business agreement Instant, yes. You get married.

You got to sit down. I watch, and it's on a thing. I watched this thing on Netflix, Ocho Cinco, and his girl, who I always thought they loved each other to death. And they brought the lawyers before the wedding. And the wedding was called off because they was like, I want a piece of your show. You want a piece of my show. I want to this. It just turned straight business.

And so what I'm saying to you is that unfortunately, especially a young, athlete. The stigma is not true because John Beasen's my brother, he's a real smart guy, but the stigma around young athletes is they know how to play the fuck out the sport. They ain't that bright. And so the girls zero in

on them. No, no. They're not that bright. They book smart and they're athletic when it comes to knowing about the y'allel. Yeah, because they're gym racks. They've been in the gym or the field or the classroom. They haven't been on Broadway.

The census is, God bless Travis Hunter, but my common sense say this won't end right. He's going to end up for a lot for a. No pre-nup. No pre-nup? This ain't going to end right. And so that's the point where if you, that's your son, that's your nephew, that's your best friend. This might be real love, though, crap.

No pre-num, me. What was the last time we saw real love in this generation? Like, you could say real love. love unless unfortunately unless you both is broke and you coming up together and she get a good job and you get a job and we buy the crib together and we do it

together. Other than that if you're a guy with a hundred ms and all that are a chance to say you fucked and big time and let me tell you something. Somebody should have jumped in front of the barrel. Do anybody got something to say? Somebody should

somebody should have jumped in front of the barrel early like an uncle and nephew. We We hate those people, but at least let it be known. I got a friend, right, which I can't really talk in too much detail. But I got a friend who was once married and, you know, they got him. You know what I'm saying? They got him for his paper and all that. You know, his ex-wife got him.

She took most of the bread. He was back, fucked up, this, that, crawled out the dungeons. Crawled out. Out the dungeon. When I say dungeons, look, when you go pick up your man and he got the hit, the mustache. Yeah, come on. The big shit like this,

he don't even look like, like, you know he's all fucking. When you go up there, he got the quarterfiel. Now, you know the big shit like, yes. When you come pull up and you're like, you're like, damn, bro. Like, what happened?

Speaking of my, I don't like what you call him from Indiana. There's somebody on the paces that look like Ron from different. I don't look. Yeah, I hate that. Shep it. I was like,

Benjamin Shepard He got a rifle though But he looks like Ron From a different word I don't like a bunch of the Indiana Guys by him right there The guy who come up in there To ruffles of feathers

He's Ron from a different world That's what I mean That mustache That mustache He got big See how he thought your man was But my man was fucked up So

We encourage him Sure enough He gets back on his feet He starts making a bunch of money again. And he's ready to rekindle an old flame. Oh, you went back? Yes. Listen, listen, but my thing is I had,

because everybody's talking behind his back. You got your crew, I got mine. Everybody, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. I had the balls to pull over on the West Side Highway. He's going to know I'm talking about him. And I said, yo, they left you fucked up. already. Are you sure

you want to do that? Nah, Joe, I know what I'm doing this and this. I said, bro, I picked you up with the quarter field. Nah,

you know the mustache the shit. You know the shit like Shepard from Indiana that big old the fucking free cheese. Mustache,

you remember them black cheese shits? That thing got that shit right there, right? So I'm like, yo,

check this out. I see, you should, I wouldn't have been a real one. I wouldn't have kept the wheel with myself with my DNA. So I had to be, he said, nah, I got this, this and this now. So are you sure? I just want you to know, I'm bringing this up at this time just so that you know that, you know, I'm not just going with, I'm just trying to be, nah, Joe, I got this. Everybody's happy. It's cool. You know what I'm saying? But these guys,

they want to spend that, they want to rekindle that old flame. I don't know what to tell you. It just ain't safe no more, man. To get married and shit like that. You need old music in the back right here. Where's the love? No, no, that's what I'm saying. It's the love. Because once you

coming in the game, you know what I'm saying? He's just a dunking cup, but it's Kiss Cafe in here, baby. That's right, baby. Kiss Cafe Coffee.com. We got rewinded 10. Why fight the time?

Why you can rewind the time? Why look 53? Why look 43? Why look 43? where you can look 33. If your wife says she likes you with that gray beard, she's lying, guys. Get in the game.

Get your stride back. Rewind the 10. Sally's beauty. CBS. Yo, listen. Kai's not, right? He must have... I think Travis should have called Kai.

Oh, yo, he ain't go to the school of Kai. No, he didn't go. He ain't go to the school of time. But you know what also that tells me about Travis? He ain't got real people around him, as much as he... They do. Somebody had...

Coach Prime, he got your door. They definitely... They told them. No, they love him, but in the... I think Prime signed him down and gave him all the games that he made. Shout out to Coach Prime. Well, you know, I love...

He treated him like his son. I know he gave him... I know he gave him all the tools and the resources. Let's move forward that he needed. So I could talk about the funniest shit I've seen since, like, Dave Chappelle. This guy, Kassanat, has a class for athletes. for athletes. The audience is athletes

making $100 million, $50 million, this and this and that. And what not to fall for with like bad chicks and baddies and all that. So they got a girl acting like she, you know, and then you got a guy. So she calling them like, hey, babe. Shoot a shot.

They're not in front of the classroom. Hey, babe, you know, I'm at the more, you know, I've seen this watch. You know, and I cannot leave the mall without this watch. This is my It just speaks to me This, this, that

And then she goes You know, I need to see If you can wire over 60,000 Just 60,000 Babe this So they jump out Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, Hold up, let her talk some more

She goes, he goes, what kind of, You should ask her what kind of what? She says, what kind of watch? And she says AP He says, this is you're out You absolutely hate APs You can't see it with APs This, so he's teaching the guy

And the girl's like, Yeah, well, what I need, I like AP, this and this and that. And they start telling them, yo, tell her your shit is maxed out. Like, you know, you already spent this week's money is done. And she said, damn, some guys got me like that before, this, this, that. I mean, they're giving classes on how not to get got by a chick. I think we need that.

Oh, no. That should be manned. I thought it was brilliant. Like, I'm watching the shit. I'm dying laughing. I'm like, yo, this shit is brilliant. Because, you know, guys out here, they're getting gotten. Tupac Shakur, one of the most prolific rappers in the world.

I think the realest rap in the world ever. Just my opinion, right? Every time I've seen Tupac, if we talk to violence and we're talking that, he was in some shit. Every single time I laid the eyes on him. I look at him, yo, you've seen such a lot. of such pulling out the ham in the middle of the club. Yo, over here, it was bootlaking tapes.

He beat up like 25 Africans on 125th. I'm watching them, broad daylight, putting in work everywhere I go. And I met him. He had a red bandana with two guns. I didn't even know who it was. I'm in Atlanta. He'd come up, yo, crack. I don't know who he is.

I'm looking. Met the man is dead. We in a cipher is one of them conferences. He pulled out. Yo, it was pot. That's what I meant. Two Pock's your car. The first time I ever seen him was in Atlanta, too, at Jack the Rapp.

Did he have two guns? That's where I was at, Jack the Rapper. Jack the Rapper. He didn't do that to you. No, I didn't. Did it to me. Right? He was at that Jack the Rapper Rapp.

I was there. I wasn't that it was the same one. It had to be the same one. The girl was like, I seen your age on the cake. I thought you was way younger. You was at the Jack the Rapp and the same one. Now, you just going to put me at every event. You was at.

You was at the same one. I thought you was like, years behind me. Man, now I'm this everywhere. He was at. You was at the fever. You was at the Fred Fet. I was in three years old.

Listen, you was there. Listen, we was at the motherfucking hotel and the girl kept going, death rows in the house, Long Beach, called there. And the girl that was in the

chronic, she was singing that shit out there, that froze in the house, Long Beach. And I was like, you know, we just kept making the sing that,

but two by I pull up. My point is, He gets locked up. Let's just say the white people in the record label, no matter how much he was selling, no matter how much we seen him on TV, no matter what,

they did not go in that bag to bail him out. This is the number one rapper at the time. You couldn't escape Tupac. Tubac was on the news. He was on everything. He was selling so many millions of records. They did not bail this man out.

It took Shug Knight to come from L.A. to bail out. Tupac. That's how he got signed the death row. Right? So if you think the record label's coming to bail you out, you know, I know they support you at the beginning or whatever. You got Little Dirk right now.

Little Dirk is facing life. Right? If you think he's thinking, I don't know, man, God bless him if he's thinking the record label. I don't know about none of that shit. But fast forward to times from Park to Dirk. Dirk got, he's making mad off. He got mad.

He's trying to put a mad M's building. They're denying his bill thus far. But Pac, they didn't have that, they'll put up. So, man, listen. Is it like a, how do you feel about that with the time? Because his biggest Pac was, he should have had. You don't think he should have been able to get out without shit? His back is going to hear me?

He didn't have it. No, but you just said he was everywhere on the news. He was. But he didn't have that bag. He didn't have that bag or he would have built himself out. He didn't have the money to bail him. himself out. Sometimes we living day by day. We just living by

different... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why is it in a situation? Because Dirk got the money and he can't get out. You think you check to check. You work in every day, check to check. We check to check. If we're buying $300,000 watches, house, homes, and everywhere, we check to check.

That's why you got to keep working. That's why you got to keep working. Everybody is so rich and why they fucking still working. You got to fucking work. When I see Smokey Robinson and all the motherfuckerskin still at Vegas and Lionel Richie. I just seen Rod Stewart about to do something. Yeah, 180.

All right. So what does that mean? Does that mean that they love to do it? Or does it mean like, you got to pay the bill? Yeah, you got kids in college, you got all type of fucking mortgages, you got car notes, you got shit. Like, I mean, guys, 80 years old still performing touring. I mean, just two days ago was Patty LaBelle. Yeah, my mom went there.

I would have went. My mom in the one. I was in Vegas stuck. I had a show. Patti LaBelle, my girl, Stephanie Bills. Glad it's nice, shock the con. Come on. That's a must-see TV.

But, either they're doing it for the love and the passion, or they still got to get the money to pay these bills. Because these bills just keep coming. The bills don't stop. The bills keep coming. I don't care. The bills is coming now. The bills is coming now.

The train is coming. And so what happens is, I don't care how much money we make. It's almost like shampoo. The shit just slipped through your fingers. I'm not safe. No, I'm keeping it real with you. I am not safe with no amount of money. You don't know how many times I made a million dollars

and that shit was gone in like a month or two. And it's just regular shit. Yo, pay the lawyer. Pay your insurance. Pay this. Repeat process. Just this that. And then you turned around and it's like, yo, where's the bread?

Yo, bro. you know Louis Vuitton ain't cheap bro all that shit you're doing out here looking cute it ain't cheap and so there's always a check to check I don't care how much money you make it blows my mind when I'm sitting down I'm like yo I just made a million dollars last month

how the fuck you teller me the Amexville this this this this just them washed up two quarters of the shit like real quick and you thinking you're in the fucking when I was in the projects I thought I could buy a fucking cloud with a million dollars

a cloud like I'd be like yo I could buy me a cloud a million dollars you're looking at the fucking cartoon they're going to a million dollars

they was acting like you could buy the whole bronze to that shit check this up you know you know you know

D-ray Davis D-Rays, my gosh. I love the D-Rae. He posted a video of him and coach. It said it's the first time of 12 years he's been in coach. He feels like he got flued out or something. Like, what do you feel about flying coach? Spirit, jet blue.

I ain't really hopping on the spirit. I hop on a jet blue. I hop on a coach for a short flight. You do it? A quick one. Yeah. You know what I mean? A short hour or two.

Let me tell you something. I said, I ain't, you know. I'd rather go jet blue than a, like a coach, 11, like 31E. When I get a jet blue, I stay right in the front, watch TV. I watch a few law and orders on there. But I can't go to Cali or nowhere. I'm not doing no real hours on coach. I can't do it, right?

I'm not too bad. No, no, no. I definitely can't. There's a hundred thousand. I'm telling you, I pray. I literally, this is part of my prayer. God, please don't put me in. It's a whole different atmosphere back there.

I'm not telling you the first class I got a little room. No, I pray. It's part of my prayers. Every day, God, please keep me in first class. I went coach one time. Some guys getting married. Now first class. I'm telling you the truth.

What you want me to do? I got to expect to find the things in life. It's hard being number one, but somebody got to do it. So what I'm trying to tell you is the one time I had to fly coach, I sat next to the hillbilly jims that Beverly Hillbilly When I tell you these kids Was climbing over my shoulder

Some kid threw another kid A bag of potato chips Smacked me in my faith They would dabbing It's a different type of atmosphere back there It was not the same He wasn't in coached No no

But these was white people This is the Beverly Hills Billy Hey John Shit hit my head Kids climbing over my shit Yo I was praying so much In that seat And that was to Vegas.

Oh, see? Yo, I was praying. It was the only flight. I was praying. I said, God, please, Lord Jesus. I do never want to be on this again. And let me tell you some, I also believe that, like, the cheaper airlines, like Spirit, Southwest and all them. They pay for fucked up routes out there.

Like, they pay for the potholes. Yeah, because they shit always like this. You ever got on a spirit or they shit like this? I think they paid. All right. What's the wackest level? 34,000 feet. It's cheaper, yes, they buy that route.

And you ship me like this all the time. You get there safe, but you ship me like this. You think they got routes in the end. You pay. It's the end. Listen, you pay for a private. They'll tell you, yo, we're going over all. I watch Calid maneuver.

Like, yo, I don't want no bumps. I want you to be like, yes, sir. Don't worry. We're going to go to the west to the right. There's no weather in 47,000. Like, you pay. for that air. There's a reason why Spirit airline and all the bullshit airlines

got their shit going like this. We can forget about getting a sponsorship for Spirit. No, no, no. Well, we could take the bullshit out, right? But just lower level airline. Yeah, all right. I like that. I like that. shit crazy out here man but you got to take care of yourself man because it's a horror show if you don't and so we see shit out here sometimes where it just it don't make sense to me you know when I see legends looking fucked up I see people looking fucked up I see people

not taking care of themselves man it's just too much shit and at certain you need to adjust and take care of you. You can't sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50-something years old. You know, you over there thinking you Tony Montana at 30, I'm not advising that you sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50 because your ass is done. I'm not advising you sniff a mountain of cocaine at any age. I'm in my crib, Miami, and I'm always early.

Right? I think you beat me here today, right? First time. Factamundo. He beat me here. But I'm always early. So I'm ready. I'm ready to shoot the shit from the house.

They're like, yo, Joe, Jeter's a little late. I said, why? He said, he's in a gym. I had to respect that. I said, damn, this guy's in a jam. And for 50 years old, you could do all that shit. I see you up there push up there, push up, said, summer sox and shit.

You're doing some shit on one-to-arm. Like, that shit, what the fuck? Was your pops cock, diesel or something? Not at all. No, I'm asking you. So when you get this shit from doing the ball work, the this, the day? I'm looking at you. Jim Jones is cocked, it's a snowstorm.

He works out every day. No, no, no. He gets it in. No, in the snow, he's doing push-ups. Anyway. Is that something special or something like he's doing push-ups in the snow with fucking a chain on them and shit? Like, my thing is, yo.

This thing is nuts. Yo, no, I be looking at y'all working out. I'm like, yo, this shit crazy. I got to give it up to you. I mean, just move a little. Just do a little move. No, I'm moving. I'm good, bro.

I'm just not cocked diesel. I don't believe my body. My body is like Tyson Fury. That was a good comparison. Oh, shit. That was the second best thing he ever said. Let me tell you. He'll knock you out.

Hell it. But he looked flabby and sick. Like, you're looking at Tyson Fury. See, you don't look flabby and sick. No, I don't look flabby and sick. But the man, the man looked like He was the chair, he retired. Oh, he's still fighting.

The man can't get a six-back. He knocked bad niggins up. Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. So I'm like that. You know, I'm not cocked-j-you. I'm not hanging off the side of a building.

Make sure that's the clip. Listen, that got to be a clip. I'm like Tyson Fury. That was the 100-tod. I'm trying to get crazy and shit. That was it. That ain't this. It's tracking this.

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