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Episode Date: June 24, 2025Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Henn, the members of the Club 520 podcast, to discuss basketball, life, and hip hop. The guys discuss B Henn's new track, whether Joe an...d Jada actually thought the New York Knicks could win the NBA Finals, who Jeff Teague didn't want to play against, the state of hip hop today, and who is the GOAT between Chicago Bulls legend Michael Jordan and Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Yo, what up, y'all?
Joe Crack the Dawn.
The boy Jada, it's the Joe and Jada show.
We got special guests today, y'all.
You know what I mean?
We got my brother's club 520.
You know what I mean?
One of the hottest podcasts out there,
they've been doing it, going strong.
They're controlling the airwave cyber league.
And welcome my brothers to the Joe and Jay the show.
Makes them.
With the guys, baby.
Hold on, hold on.
Yeah, my man, B. Hinton got a song,
irking jerk.
Let's just start the show off.
Let's check it.
Somebody tune that up.
Let's hear that joint.
Let's load up the drink, man.
Let's not even play with it.
Listen, Jada, Jada.
It's only right.
Jada, I appreciate the love, baby, but we got to go on the room.
What does irken jerk mean?
Erken jerk.
You get that's a locus boy.
He used to call that E&J when I was young.
Easy Jee.
So that's the new terminology.
That's the Gen Z.
That's old.
That's old.
Erken jerk.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
We ain't got it.
No, no.
We got to listen.
Me and Sunny Digital, gonna put the remaster version out,
and I'll be sure to send it to you, you know what I mean?
Oh, he don't want us to play, all right.
Yeah, I mean, how long- You see, that's the good thing about music,
but you don't want it to go out.
You ain't got it.
Yeah, we'll keep it in the tuck.
What's my man, Her and Madge?
Don't hit sin.
How long y'all have been doing this podcast?
Man, what is in like two years?
Two years strong.
When did y'all know that y'all was them dudes in a podcast one?
I'm gonna be real with you
I still don't know
Now you know
Y'all shit is everywhere
I mean we go viral
I know we go viral
I know we like
different than a
You know what I mean
A lot of podcasts
But I don't think we really like
Felt that moment
Yeah
First of all
How did y'all
What made y'all do a podcast
How did y'all come up with
Them two already had a podcast
When I was hooping
That's an opinion podcast
They were
They were shooting
I came on their show one time
And it was a bunch of fun
Once I retired, I had hit him up to do like a shoe podcast.
I'm in the sneakers like, y'all.
And we was like, yo, let's do this.
Me and him, we collect kicks.
But be him, me and him been cool forever.
And it all just came together.
I had a club in my basement at my crib.
That was my next question.
Yeah, we was there kicking it.
And what you're doing at your club?
Are you, do you have a...
I didn't see.
That was like the flex with the silence on.
A club in my base.
A club in the basement in my crib.
You got a wife of the family and all that?
You still had the club in the basement.
Yeah, she threw the parties.
She threw the parties.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's what it was called.
The club in the basement was called Club 520.
So we were supposed to shoot in the club.
But we ended up shooting it somewhere else.
Yeah, because the first things we did, the first pause we shot,
we wouldn't even be here today if that shit aired for real.
Like, we were, we had him, like, out of his body, you know what I'm saying?
Because it was just straight, raw room, like, talk.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't even no sports talk.
We just wanted to talk about topics of the day.
Wow.
We went a little too crazy.
What do you do when the guests come on?
Still the same must.
Pause, blow their top and just come on here.
It had to be a better way.
Because me and Jada, we, we're the mother Teresa of this shit.
Like, we're trying to keep this positive.
uplifting the people
get this
and if a guest come on
and just go to Kat Williams
what do you do?
Let them talk.
Yeah, man, let them talk.
Iso Kemp.
Oh, no.
Let them go crazy.
And maybe you can chime in
if they're getting a little too crazy
you can chime in and pull them back
down the back, but you got to let people
be who they are.
On our show, we just want you
like when, you come on
and we had Jay Don't come on here
just chill, bro's barbershop talk.
We don't care about allegations and none of that shit.
Everybody came on there just went straight
ate shit and shit and just
went crazy. We almost
weren't going to be here. We survived
December. We had a hell of a guess.
If you know, you know. Yeah, we won't
bring him up, but it was crazy.
We had one that almost canceled us for real.
And it wasn't nothing that we said. And you almost
got canceled. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. A few times. Yeah, yeah.
You see? But you went viral
though. We had a viral moment with Jay.
Yeah. You talk about
Doc Rivers-Therline.
All-Strault Weekend.
You know I got a product
You see my shit right
Rewaned you
Doc
There you go
Tap in, Doc
I'm just saying
Forget Doc
Right
I try to get
Jalen Rose on the box
He tried to tell me
He ain't rewinding the time
That's emphatically
There's no way
Fatically not using the product
No he's not
What is too black
What?
J.R.
Nah.
Oh, you crazy?
J.R.
got the real, real O.
Don't defend the basketball player.
This shit.
Not his head lines.
His hair colors.
He's doing shit like a car.
I love Jay the most.
Don't tell me your shit.
It's crazy.
They shoot this shit up.
You ain't never see the shit with the guns.
I'll say this.
They got the armaged gun on there for show.
I'm not, you know, I said, I said, I said,
Joe, Jack, I need you.
Like, if they take it to the lap.
And when you get the lap.
And when you get the jet.
That's super black.
That ain't from my ancestors.
That's not the lineage.
He probably gave me a lot of things.
He still got this good grade.
He took your old nine eight or when you put that.
I'll fuck with Jayne Moore.
No, fair.
You got some of the best haircuts ever.
Oh, me.
He ain't talking about his haircuts.
I'm just saying the blackness,
at one point, you just say,
what we try to do is make everybody feel proud about what they're doing.
You ain't got to go into CBS and hide that you bind to rewind.
We got Travis Kelsey this.
The point is, Jaylon Rose is using this shit.
All right, so about let's talk about rewind since we're here.
Now, what if I want to go swimming, Joe?
What are we doing?
Oh, no, my shit perfect.
I'm going to be swimming today.
No, no, no.
This ain't got to retweet.
What are we doing?
This is cracking kiss.
Let me tell you something.
Bro, I was in the pool today.
Like, don't play with me.
My shit, Italian-grade, crazy, legendary shit, number one out there.
I'm not, I don't want to brag.
I'm not, let's go back to the, what happened with Doc Rivers?
Shalin Rose.
All right, you know how they, they have a paint your car before the shit.
I just got to pay the job.
They're giving them the stencil shit.
But see, what people are scared people with the product like that,
that's why I ask you is they'd be worried about if it come off.
No, my shit never, no.
People don't scare to get the shouts.
That shit is.
on there and you...
The lights hit it and that's how you know Jay Rose is getting because the light is...
You have the full beard.
It lasts even longer.
But why I'm trying to tell everybody's, yo, why fight the time when you can rewind the time?
That's a boy.
Why I look 53 when you could look 43?
Okay.
Why I look 43 when you could be 32?
If your wife telling you she liked the shit, she's lying.
She's trying to keep you off the streets.
She don't want you looking, brand new.
I'm not...
I'm telling you the truth.
This is one of the, one of the, um, y'all knew him forever, Teague.
So one of the things about your cast is when he tell his stories, he's usually shitting
all his self.
Was he always like that or did y'all just, was that a bitch y'all figured out when he,
when he tell his stories.
He never just go to the good story.
He go, I mean, the good story, he never just go to the good shit.
He tell him.
I'm gonna just tell y'all the truth.
Honestly, he got a bunch of good stories.
No doubt.
All of them is good, man.
He tells the shit when something bad happened to him.
People gravitate towards the bullshit.
So a lot of former NBA players when they came...
No, I'm the bullshit.
He liked that, Joe, Jeter.
I don't think you really see
what you do to me on this podcast,
you know.
Be pulling the hat like I'm cat.
Oh!
He's lying.
They're not going to bring the little guy out.
You saw the story about the little guy?
Yeah.
He about this big.
He's not that.
He's two feet, too.
No, man, but with him, it's like a lot of NBA, former NBA players,
they just wanted to tell like, man, I would have killed him if I had to play him
or try to overdo what they did in the NBA.
Who you would have killed then?
Like, who you would have killed?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, but what about SG?
Gee, nah, I ain't gonna say, I played against him.
How did that go?
I had good games against everybody.
But I should tell you, when I tell the stories, they talk to most shit.
Yeah.
So, like, when I first met him, I met him talking shit.
That's right.
I had one of my young guns, like, shout out to Shelvin Mac.
When I met him, I'm like, nigga, fuck you.
I think you're way better than you.
He's still in college.
And I didn't know who this was.
I'm like, I'm with my guys, but who the fuck is.
We got mutual friends.
Well, you know me, I grew up.
You see across the street from the store is the projects.
I grew up in a project building like that.
So we had 145 families in one building.
You talk about popping shit to six in the morning every day in the summer.
We just talk shit, fat chicks, ugly dudes, this, this.
They snapping on my mother.
They telling me my father ain't got them.
We don't give a fuck.
We go to six in the morning.
We're talking about hip hop.
And so I understand talking about myself in a funny way.
I have no problem when I said I'm a glizzy cereal glizzy eater.
That was a joke.
Let's dial back to that.
What made you say you said you were serious?
I bought a hot dog yesterday from the corner.
We got, but we got a hot dog in the fucking corner.
In the fucking corner.
I'm not, I don't know what to tell you.
Meet me.
I'm like, what is supposed to do?
Let's try to eat a hot dog.
But you don't have to say you a cereal glizzy eater.
That's crazy.
You could have to say.
I enjoy hot dogs.
Not even know.
But that's still a ball.
I'm a cereal glizzy eater.
That's, I should say, be free.
Just saying, I eat this stuff they make.
Get the fuck out.
All right.
What's your order at the garden?
What's your order at the garden if you get food?
I'm too glizzy.
Too glitchy salt.
Hey, he's like freaking Mike.
He's a freaking mic.
He's a cereal glizzy eater as well.
Okay, let me tell you, Bob.
I go, they got a room in the garden.
The glizzy room that the celebrities go to.
So you eating Lenny Kravitz is there.
Dolish sweet.
Whoever you name, everybody's there.
Lenny Kravitz?
Everybody.
Lenny Kravitz, fucking Michael J. Fox, whoever you name.
Okay.
They have real chefs cooking lobster and steak.
When I get there and I get there,
and I get to my table, they already know,
two glizzies waiting for me.
Right there with some muscle.
Off the dribble?
That's the flavor, too, man.
Automatically.
Are you getting chips with that?
No, no, no, no.
I'm just going to eat the two glisies.
That's my dinner.
Two glisies to diet coke.
Oh, you catch up mustard.
Oh, yeah, what are we doing to it?
No, no, we just got, but it's in there.
So you're a professional.
You got to get some mustard.
That's it.
You know what I'm saying?
No, no, no, but...
We're all that lobster and all this.
Yeah, I don't eat that shit.
I eat lobster all day, to be honest with you.
I want to go in the stadium and eat some popcorn
and eat some glissies.
There's just no way around it.
She, what you're looking at you got to understand is,
I am not conforming.
I am not gentrified.
I'm not conforming to the new rules that they say.
saying a hot dog is a you glissier and you doing like i'm eating a hot dog no yeah yeah yeah
you see what i'm saying we just we just always talk about all right this whole thing is
it's mad people that agree with you oh it's not what no no you got the serial killer right
there you just got this gulching that's another serial with your leg who's your man right here
are you are you come over here come in the camera one second let me ask you one quick
now you turn to the glitchy gas you got
Glygy, yes, what?
Are you a serial glissied?
Yes.
His name is Freaky Mike.
I'm going to the movie theaters.
Yeah.
I'm eating hot dog and I'm going to the stadium.
I'm eating hot.
Why are you getting lobster at a basketball game?
Yeah.
That don't make sense.
Yes.
You got glidgy, your old life.
Birthday parties.
Yeah.
A hot dog in a movie theater is crazy.
That is man.
No, no, that's serious.
No, he, uh, look, he came to.
He came to Joe.
That is no, shit.
What do he wanted me in a cook up?
He can get a little popcorn, you know what I'm going to get some popcorn, a little drink.
He wanted to get a hot dog with that?
Nah, he had a wedding.
He can't ask for hot dogs.
He had for hot dogs at a wedding at a wedding at a reception.
It was a wagglingo hot dog.
The Zoglizzi.
That's a great dog.
That's a great one.
I'm on 12.
He had for a glissie at a wedding.
I'm on 12 have glizzies waggoo hot dogs, this pheno.
Come on.
Chos.
We've been taking the show.
What's the same in this show?
The spaceship glissing.
The spaceship glizzing the heart.
It's both perfect for...
They go out of space.
They just...
Perfect segue to my man being...
Yes, sir.
Eat lost workout journey.
I'll just go.
Off the glissing, Tommy.
Off the glitz.
We got to do something.
You got to get the glisties, huh?
No, for sure.
No, it's really...
It's really...
Dem, motivate me to get into the gym.
He always be on me, like,
bro. It's cool, bro, but you can't eat pork every day.
I love ribs, smothered pork shops.
How about that?
Yeah.
I ain't need pork in 30 years.
You changed your diet.
I changed my diet.
I cut out a lot of bread, cut out pork, totally.
I did a damn sometimes, maybe.
Pork?
Yeah, ribs, I'm a rib-tip god.
That's so simple of the cereal glyphs.
However you want to remix it.
You never had beef ribs, like good beef frills?
Yeah, but they're too, the bone is too thick on them.
Oh, wow, oh, that ain't heard of you.
The bone is stupid.
Man, all the beef, red.
This episode.
I'm trying to tell about my journey, and y'all.
He's outlived my truth.
I already know how this shit goes.
I'm trying to give you my journey, Jaina.
Can I feel my journey?
You don't want to let this thing go.
Like that.
No, it's going to run.
No, but we're in the gym Monday, Tuesdays, and Thursday.
Monday, Wednesday, Thursday.
So, you know what I mean?
It's a part of my life now.
Okay.
So I'm dedicated.
I wear my hot suit and, you know what I'm saying?
He'll work out guru.
DJ workout all the time.
But I'll be seeing you on there doing your pull-ups and your whole regimen, though.
He's trying to live.
I'm just trying to live.
What made you switch it up?
I got punched in the back in the head.
I got a picture with your belly like, you is like fat Joe.
You ever seen that picture?
Oh.
You know how mad they got at me?
I was big, but I was like,
yo, why are you doing Jada dirty?
I found an ill pitcher of me and Jada.
You do it up and around my birthday, right?
But what's the problem?
No, I didn't get mad.
You can't see me, call.
You look great.
I love the pitch.
But you was a little round in the edges.
Your fans got upset with me that I threw the shit up.
They were like, yo, don't do Jerry like that.
He don't look like that.
I'm like, yo, the pitcher fly.
Anyway, I got friends.
punched in the back of the head one day in Kansas City.
When I got home, I decided to start working out.
After a show or something with us?
We was on a locks tour.
Yeah.
And I think we got to the event.
We arrived at the venue a little early.
They didn't have the back in.
So now we're on the sprint or the tour bus drinking and smoking.
We end up falling to sleep.
As soon as we got into a nice, good slumber,
They come with the money and the mics and all.
Oh, you got to go on.
So I was the first one off the truck walking to the door to go in.
There was some dudes drinking, just huddling up, you know, frattingizing outside.
I'm saying, what's up?
Yo, Jay, I thought I said, what's up, good enough.
It must have not been today liking, though.
Yeah, yeah.
I gave them a man, what I'm saying?
Mind you, I just woke up.
Next thing I know, players club to the back of the head.
Damn.
I'm saying?
They play his club.
Luch and P. came out and cleaned them up, though.
You know what I mean?
It was the door was open.
The whole club saw it.
Then we went on stage.
You know what I mean?
P. was telling the drivers the back of the,
he was preparing for the ambush.
Oh, okay.
Luckily, we got out of there.
I came home, got with my man, Giant from the bartenders and started working out.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the big players club means back in the head.
That's crazy that made you start working out, though.
He didn't take that.
A bunch of all of shit, but that was the ice is on the kick.
We had Jim Jones on here the other day, and Jim Jones was saying he worked out to be prepared.
And then you remember that video, he slammed that dude in the airport.
I know Jim, Homeboy had to fuck with him.
Like, I knew the minute I saw it, I said, I don't, I don't even know what Homeboy must have said some wild shit to him for him.
for him to do that to him.
You know what I'm saying?
So,
but that's, you know,
I know guys that had to go to jail
five, ten years,
and they already started working out
before they went in there
to be ready to go in jail,
you know, prepping their bodies
to get ready
because they got to go to gladiator school
and go to war.
Well, the clock only goes frontwards
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I wanted to ask you what made your start, like, potting together.
How that comes?
This is a long time.
Let me answer this one.
There's a long time ago.
And we got together maybe five years ago
or something like that
and we talked about it
and exactly what it is
but it never turned into fruition
it never came to be
and then we finally linked up with the volume
and they shared the vision
and it was like, yo we believe in this show
and shout out to Lori
she's in the building
and then we just teamed up
and we went but we'd been
wanted to do this shit a long time ago
you know
And, you know, you got Joe or Jada, you know, I feel like we, you know, we them guys, man, we're the McKillies, you know what I'm saying?
You know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm a type of guy, you got a million men against a million men.
He said, bring out your biggest fella.
And I come out there with the sword to the front.
Everybody move out the way, and I'll come up with that.
What if you got to face that gorilla, though?
The soul.
That gorilla, we fucked.
Like, I didn't tell you something.
I want.
here we go
I once was
this is a simple one
listen
I once was at a zoo
in Australia
right
and they had a show
where it wasn't a gorilla
it was a tiger
and they took a piece of beef
like a big piece of beef
and they put that shit
like on top of a tree
you hear me
that man
jumped up, hit the tree with one thing,
grabbed the piece of beef and came down.
At that point, I knew we are fucked out there.
Like this, you're not zigzagging.
You ain't running around a tree from a gorilla, a tiger.
None of that shit.
So I don't know who think they could fight a gorilla,
fight a tiger, whatever.
I've seen the tiger jump, whap, grab the meat, come down.
I said, oh, no.
I'm going to try to run.
I'm gonna try to
No, I'm gonna try to run
I'm gonna try to fight
You gonna try to fight?
Oh, I'm gonna go out
If an animal is coming at you
What are you gonna do?
Yo, hey, here's the hot sauce
You have to fight this motherfucker
There's no way around it
Here's the hot sauce
So you guys squaring up
What are you gonna do?
The Tiger and Brill is coming at you
Are you gonna pass them
The hot sauce and be like, okay
You're gonna pass him that shit
Man, man, try to run.
You ain't about to square with no girl.
He ain't going to square.
No, no, you got to try to get away.
That's all I'm saying.
Give a chance.
You come too close and...
Try to get away.
I'm moving.
I'm trying to get the fuck up out of there.
Good punch in the nose might stun somebody and keep the fuck out of there.
I'm not going to lay there.
I'm not the guy in the scary movie where you be like, run.
No, no.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I don't got to fucking look back for nothing.
Nothing in the world.
One time, it might be too real,
but one time there was a situation
where I'm outside of a spot
and somebody starts shooting.
So the police forced me.
They subpoenaed me to come in, right?
Because Fat Joe's there, right?
So I go up in there.
I'm with my lawyer,
and they were like, when you heard the shots,
what you do?
I ran the other fucking way so fast.
What are the other people do?
Was there a hundred people running with me?
Like, yo, what the fuck, dude?
Are you one of them guys, you walk to the shots
to see what's going on?
I'm not that guy.
I'm out of here.
I don't want to know what's going on.
You're going to run, but you're going to stay and fight the gorilla.
Yeah, he's saying because at first you think it was a squirrel.
No, I'm not saying I'm going to stay and fight the gorilla.
I'm just trying to tell you that the gorilla got me trapped.
And I got no choice.
You're going to see the video.
Fadjo going to go all out with the gorilla.
You're going to snatch my shit off.
He's going to kill.
I'm going to go out no matter what.
Jay said, no, holler at you.
What you going to say to him?
No, I said he should try to talk to him.
Talk to him.
You know, I talk my way out of getting killed maybe 30, 40 times.
It's a true story.
I believe.
Guns in my chest.
I deserved it, too.
And I found the way.
Yo, bro, we both Puerto Rican.
Yo.
I know you man's, yo, we don't have to do this.
This, no, 30, 40 times.
You know what I'm saying?
I then got out there where they said,
behind door, number one,
we had a riot in Connecticut.
We fought the whole club.
Or rather, the whole club fought up.
It's like, I can't believe the whole club screaming,
you got to flow, Joe.
Next thing I know, they're trying to beat the brace off us.
We're fighting.
We're going all out, right?
I spin it around the door.
I thought I got a raid the dude was like this
with the hammer.
Thank God for his wife.
Who's like, please, Poppy, no.
No, it ain't his fault.
Please, this.
He had the devil in his eyes, too.
But I talked the matter of it.
Yo, I got the fuck up out of there.
They know the stories.
They know.
I ran out in the street,
carjacked the dude,
took the little Honda accord and drove back to the Bronx.
This is a true story.
Back down, right?
Schedule that program.
My man, they won't
grab that.
I'm back back.
Tony,
what's in the street?
Bro.
Yeah,
I feel bad for the dude
got his car.
He was just chilling.
He didn't know.
His whole name was about
being fucked up.
You know what?
He rolled back with us.
Somebody.
Yo.
Somebody.
Somebody.
Brother, if you're still alive,
I want to see you
in these comments.
No, please,
time him.
We got to hollet it, bro.
I'll tell you a bigger, hold on, hold up, hold up, let me tell you, hold up.
We tell you an illist story.
I'm lucky.
Right, that same story.
You know, we got a guest, right?
No, this is what we're doing.
No, top your shit, we hear.
We're chilling.
We call Jack the guy.
I get all my guy, we caught him beat.
They know Connecticut, no, they beat that ass, right?
It's too many, right?
And real warriors, too, they beat the shit out of us, right?
So we drive it back.
We call it big pun.
May you rest in peace.
So we come back to puns block.
Punds in the middle of the street sees us
and jumps and rolls over with like a machine gun in the scene.
Yo, what's up, Twent?
Who wanted, who wanted?
I'm like, yo, my man, that shit was in Connecticut.
What the fuck out of here?
Unrolled over like some army shit.
Yo, what's up, Twit?
Who wanted where?
I swear, dog.
I'm like, yo, pun, that shit was three hours ago.
Like, calm down.
Like, he was acting like he was ready for war.
But, you know, it is what it is.
Man, they know that's a real story.
Coaching, man.
Let's go back. Let's go to coaching.
No, no, let me ask you a question.
Okay.
Coach it.
Who did you not want to play?
No, I don't care about playing.
No, no, no, no.
You just actually did you answer it?
Hold up.
I'm not going to answer it for me.
Is somebody who's too strong,
is somebody who runs?
you up, there's somebody that even if you went in the stadium,
you dreaded facing that player.
No, I hated playing Bronn, like going against Brown.
I didn't, I mean, I didn't have to guard him.
Too physical?
Yeah, they were.
Too many calls?
Yeah, he was, he the best.
Like, we couldn't beat him.
Like, I never beat Brown in the playoff game.
And I played him, what, three or four times?
I'm over.
Was that any kids close?
We was up 31 game and still lost.
Yeah, we was like the Knicks.
No, no, don't do the next.
Yeah.
We know how to segue.
What your low, blow.
We know the segway.
Such a low blow.
The Knicks.
We was up 30, man.
End up losing in the end.
Was it the Easton Conference final?
No, this was.
Oh, yeah, that's a.
But this was against the pace.
Hey, shit.
This was against the Pacers when I was with the Pacers, though.
We was up game three.
30 points lost.
So we're here talking about the playoffs.
Mm.
You know, we...
It's the championship, though.
Yeah, no, hold on, don't try to run.
That's a great accomplishment.
Did you know, I'm very tech with a bunch of superstar players,
and they all tell me behind the scenes who they didn't want to play.
Like a Mike Bibby, a A.I.
Mike Biggie, that's my...
No, no, they told me.
Shout to Mike Bigger.
So I knew there was somebody that...
Who, Bibby said.
They bothered you.
They didn't want to see me in practice.
You know Bibby is...
You know, he choked me up.
That's a true store.
Right now, he actually did.
Bibby choked me up.
So we collect sneakers, right?
Let's go to sneakers.
Nobody has more sneakers than Mike Bibby.
When I say nobody, this store ain't big enough.
His shit.
And he don't even trust his family.
He got like seven locks.
He goes like this.
He built the whole foot locker for himself.
Shit, it's like four stories when you go with the thing.
So he kept telling me for years,
come to my house when you were Phoenix,
yo, I give you whatever you want
because you know he was Team Jordan.
So he said, all right, Joe, whatever you want.
I go, whew, I do like the tiger did.
Jump up on the shit, whack.
I go, whack.
These was all like one of ones.
He's like, yo, what are you doing?
His family's like, yo, Bib, you told him.
He was like, nah, fuck that.
He knows what he's doing.
I ain't going to his house taking this platinum plaques.
Yo, crap, he wound up choking me out.
I wound up having a bargain with him.
Like, yo, I'll take one pair out of the four
because they was one of ones.
I knew what I was doing.
I went for the shit.
He was like, yo, this guy, his family ain't even know.
They look in there as sneakers and sneakers.
He's like, he's grabbing the best shit.
He's grabbing.
Like, I knew what to grab.
Like, I was like a kid in the Toys R Us
that they said, yo, go crazy.
Get busy.
Now, what you want to say about the Knicks?
No, I just wanted to ask.
like did y'all really think y'all was about to win the championship this year on some real
shit you don't he's about to beat in the end what happened though from y'all perspective
we gave it all we got tim tim tim tim's blue this fucking carbon radar
y'all sound so defeated i know man we all
what are you talking about the energy's long this guy still having
Braun Nightmares 20 years later.
Are you serious?
You know how we feel?
Okay, we've been fans our whole life.
I mean, I got pictures of me 10 years old playing basketball and Nick Jackets.
So we've been we've been sipping the Kool-Aid a long time.
So we finally get to a place this city and no disrespect to the Yankees, love the Yankees.
but it never felt like it felt
with the Knicks going to the Eastern
like this shit was out of
but I mean everybody
your mother my father
like normal people who are nice people
let's go next
like this shit was fully
charged
I think if we went a game seven
they probably would have blocked
the Pacers bus from coming
like it was that crazy
out here like they was whiling out here
And we was on the shit, too.
We come up in here with the, he came up in here with the Nick helmet and shit,
Nick socks up the hill, all type of shit like this.
And I'm like, yo, we just so hype.
And to fall short like that, I just think they were way faster than us.
And they had a better team.
You know, he really had a bench.
We had visions of a bench.
Oh, we had, that was the best thing he said.
That's a bar.
It's a visions of a bench.
But what I'm saying to you is this is the problem I have.
Fat Joe plays in the game, 5-1-5.
I'm not the best player.
It don't matter.
I'm scoring 10, 12 points.
There's just nowhere around.
Hold on, hold on, Joe.
I'm telling you the truth.
I don't want to interrupt you.
What?
Are you saying like the NBA?
Basketball.
Any game I play.
Pick up.
Softball.
Whatever.
I'm doing my thing.
10 points in the NBA is crazy.
I know.
I get it.
I'll get some bum-ass 10 points.
I'll get your man, what's your man,
Turner to bust my head open.
I'll go on that line and make the two.
I'm going to be on the scoreboard.
Listen what I'm saying.
Well, I'm trying to tell you is I'm not doing nothing
that I'm not helping the team.
Okay.
I'm going to help the team.
So now my point that I don't understand is
you waited your whole life.
You get to the finals.
You get to the finals.
playoffs, right?
And during the season, let's call out
Deuce McBride, right?
Okay, dude. This was his time
to really shine, not
regular shine. This was
his time. You didn't think he played good?
I think he played good.
I don't believe a star was born.
That's the problem I'm saying.
It has to be a star.
They didn't get enough time. They're going to say he didn't get enough time to playoff.
I think he'd been a star with that much minute.
I ain't know. My man were SGA.
Jay. William. Williams.
I'm sorry.
I ain't know.
He liked that.
A star.
He's born.
He was all in Vietnam.
Okay.
It's cool, but Jalen Brunson, when he was on Dallas,
a star was born.
I'm not going to be in this league, played in the summer,
in the winter, trying to be Kobe, and get there.
No, it is to be a star in the NBA.
Listen to what I'm saying to you.
That was the difference.
They had a better bench.
He said he should have showed up more.
Our bench did not show up.
But he didn't.
To Jeff's point, DJ's point, he didn't get enough time to show Joey Crack that he could do this time.
That's kind of true, too.
But he did, though.
The mother guys didn't.
Deuce was in them games.
He played like 18, 20.
And you came playing in spurs like that.
18, 20 minutes.
You got to get around him.
I started five is irreplaceable.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the problem.
So when he come in 18 minutes, he got to produce.
What are.
about the little guy. What about the little white, the little white boy? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little guy. Little white
guy going there, automatic. He is not playing with these dudes. My boy, T.J. Nash. Quick. And what's the, what's the white boy for, oh. Ooh. Do you know anybody's name? No, what's the white boy? I think it's Boston.
Oh, play. Prating. Pitcher. Same thing. They coming in automatic. He said, me, Ron should have a
job is, Jada. They should have came. But they roles is different, though. They get different. They get different.
Those different coaches, man.
They've been in that row the whole year.
We're not looking for Deuce to pass the ball
and be a team player.
When he comes in, he's supposed to shoot.
All right, Deuce here.
You got to hear first, doof.
The little white boys, you know, come in, shoot.
He's saying TJ and them coming to game
and they're aggressive.
Oh, no, they're not playing.
Yeah, so why.
Many of they come in, you got to be like.
They're getting put in the game to impact their game scoring.
Deuce is getting put in the game to do a little bit of heavy.
He's not single out dudes, all of them.
Okay.
None of them came out.
Like, what's my man?
Last year's playoff, we had, what, Precious?
Precious was bowling.
Precious got about five minutes, the old playoffs.
Well, whatever he got, he was a liability.
I don't know what I said.
Hey, brother.
What do you want to think five nits?
It's a liability.
This is how they love the Nix, bro.
You know where the Knicks messed up at?
completely before this
season started.
He should have gave that money
to Hartenstein.
Mm-hmm.
And he didn't.
Right now,
Hartinstein is up there.
He gave it the OG and something,
you know?
And y'all got Kat.
The money.
Y'all got Kat.
Yeah, you'll take Kat over
Hardenstein.
No, I'll take Kat all day over.
Pretty much over a lot of people.
So, Kay, you're top of?
He's the best scoring big man
in the league.
Nah.
Who's better?
What the hell?
Yonkech.
All right, Yokey.
Joel and B.
Joel and B is done.
Oh, shit.
Joel M. B got training wheels.
He's done.
He's slipping and sliding, bro.
He's done.
I like this.
He's done, Papa.
He's Christmas.
He's done.
Two hot minutes on a big game.
Sit down.
He's done.
God bless him.
I don't want nobody to get hurt.
He's done.
Joker, you're right.
Do you know why Joker's so good?
Because you were taught to play a certain way.
Every American player was taught to play a certain way, A.A.U.
Tribal the ball, don't throw it across the court.
Yo, wait for this, wait for this.
So all of y'all, no matter how ill you are,
you learn from the same theology.
Jokers in Serbia, Montenegro doing this shit,
they tell you not to do.
Throw it across the court, do this, do that.
Nobody, nobody.
This guy doing shit, you're not.
That's supposed to do.
And you're not ready for it.
He's not athletic.
He's not athletic.
Slow.
He's doing everything.
They gave you a manual.
The papers, they said,
yo, don't do this, bro.
He's doing it, and he's getting it in.
Because you're not expecting that to happen.
Balls flying across the court.
You're like, no way he'd do that.
Who would throw that?
That's why he's so good.
But yes, you got one there with Joker.
Then you got Kat.
Who else you got?
I do you.
I say Kat second.
If you're not going to talk about.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
Is Wimby a B?
Winby on the way.
I love Wemby.
But what?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I love.
Is Wimby a Bainby?
Have you, yeah.
Who you want, Winby or Cat?
No.
Look.
Answer the question.
I'm answering the question.
He's not better than cat.
He's just not.
Does he has potential?
Like, I'm real, yo, I was, I was fake cheering for the
Purrs, maybe because Pop got sick.
Shout out to Pop, man.
One of the greatest coach ever.
But that draft and all that, I was going for the Spragile.
Like, I want to see Wembe take over the league.
And I want them to get a team around them because I'm really, really a fan of Wembe.
So they get Kevin Durant.
What?
It's over.
Don't do that.
Kevin Moran.
He got beat for me sometimes.
I don't want to go there with that.
Yeah, the Spurs is supposed to be trying to go to the Spurs.
He wants to go to the Spurt.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Kevin Durant going to help anybody where he go,
but he got to stay healthy.
And we don't wish bad health on nobody.
But, you know, we've seen this, I mean, don't do that.
Kevin, Kevin, you're a funny dude.
You know what you're doing.
He gives me the eyes like, go in, Joe.
No, I'm not going in because I fuck with KD, man.
But, you know, he'll help any team they bring him in.
Even if he came to the Knicks.
He would help the next.
Oh, you want, you'll take KD for the next.
Who you'll give up?
That almost happened, too.
I'm not giving nobody up.
What?
Ooh.
How are you getting KD?
Yeah.
You're not giving nobody.
You're keeping Mike K.L.
O.G. over Katie?
All right.
You keeping Mike Kelle and OG over Katie?
Right now, yes.
I'm dealing with youth.
I'm dealing with health.
I'm dealing with we got a great nucleus if you get a better bitch.
Why am I going to be on next stage?
Listen, not me.
KD, no, don't do that.
That's why you lost that coaching job.
KD.
Oh, but by the way, let me tell you something.
Tell you something.
Worldwide West is my neighbor.
I caught him walking, right?
And he finally stopped.
He don't stop for me.
You know, he works out every day.
So I always catch him working out.
Like, yo, Wes, he's one of them work out, guys.
He's not going to talk to you while he's working out.
He stopped the other day.
So I'm talking to him.
I said, yo, Wes, I actually did something I wanted to do forever.
I got the courage to say, you all want to coach the Knicks.
He said, you are definitely not coaching.
Yo!
But I asked him.
I said, yo, man, I want to coach the Knicks.
He said, yo, Joe, you are definitely.
Not even like, he had a little malice.
with it, too.
Like, you are definitely not coaching the Knicks.
If you were to coach you the Knicks.
What was our game plan would have been for the papers?
Well, us, you know, with me personally, I have a no-loss policy.
Joe, be realistic.
Come, bro.
I have a note.
I look at my stats at the worker.
I want seven chips, brother.
I was going to ask you about EBC later.
Seven chips, brother.
We can talk about that.
I don't lose.
I get down on a concrete with the.
the players are stretching and get the rocks and pebbles in my knees.
EBC is different than the NBA.
We're going to tap into your O.C.
Of course.
I'm not delusional.
I think that I'm motivational.
I think they should give me a job to come up in there at least as an assistant coach
or somebody who comes to the camp and talking to them, a consultant when they need that.
You know, Isaiah Thomas used to come to me.
Meet with me.
Which one?
Isaiah Thomas when he
coached the Knicks
Yo Zee
The grown
If you got Instagram
You're talking about the pictures
Will Jada
You talking about the piss
Zee
If you got
Instagram
Or your sons
tuned into what's going on
Right here
With 520
And Joe and Jada
Please confirm
So that you say it's cap
He used to come to you
For the next
You used to come to me
Decisions for the Nick
Yes
When they had
Zach Randolph
They had Steph
Eddie Curry
Somebody give me a hunt
I'm talking
One off the show
I told you the truth
Joe Spill
I want to hear it
Come to me
And what did you tell
You know I got
I got Kareem Reed
The tryout for the Knicks
Kareem Reed was my point
Goff for the EBC
Yeah
I actually but you know
You're smoking all that shit
He can have to tell me
Joe man
You know he's just like
You know
You can tell you smoking
You know what I'm saying
And I try
Oh they know
You can't they're smoking?
No he's just
They're running drills
And he can't
Look, Kareemma, love you.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm just trying to say,
Zee gave me.
You know when your man said,
yo, I could be in the NBA, let me,
I actually did it.
I really got the guy to try out for the Knicks off the street.
Niggas don't know that, Jada.
No, no, I did that.
I got A. Butter,
who's probably my second,
one of my best players in the Rucker.
I got him to Fordham University with coach Bob Hill.
I did that. I walked up in there and said, yo, he's the one. Put him on the foot.
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Can we get a quick story with you and Isaiah Thomas?
Like, why did he choose you to come to?
I'm telling you right now because he knew I knew.
He wasn't crazy.
Around that time, them chips was flying outside in the summer.
He knew this guy knows something about coaching.
And so I would sit down with him and you want to know the truth?
What I would tell him?
I don't know why you're losing it.
Remember the team they had at the time?
Jamal Croft.
They have, Jamal Crawford, Zach Randolph, Steph Marbury.
Is that Harrington there?
Hal Harrington?
Yeah.
You tell me why they lose it.
I'm like, yo, but Joe, that's what I'm saying.
Joe, he's like, yo, Joe, I got the best guys.
I said, they got to play the, it was too much individual ball at that time.
It was too much, give me the rock, I'm doing this.
You know, that's something we got to work on as Knicks, right?
right now. Jalen Brunson, we're nowhere without him, but he's holding that ball too much.
Who else going to give us a bucket? It don't matter. I'm just saying, the ball got to go.
Now, McKell Bridges, he needs to really go, though. I think he's like, no, no, no, not get traded.
I mean, like, I think he's better than he letting himself be. And so Jada said, yo, they don't let him get the ball that much. That's cool.
I think that guy is very, very talented and he needs to think more offensively and he'll
impact the game in a different way, you know.
For sure.
Coaching, you went back to your hometown and coach high school.
He played at Pike High School.
What was that like?
I was trying to be like Fasjo.
Yeah.
I was trying to get some chips.
Did you get seven chips?
Nah, I ain't one nothing.
But now, we're working, though.
We've got a good group this year.
I always wanted to get back to where I came home.
You're still coaching.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fun.
I mean, we got some talented guys.
And I wanted to help somebody at least live out their dream like I did.
So we got a bunch of guys that got offers from some high major D1 school.
That's beautiful.
That's what it's about.
You know, my brother Rich player, we said he shit at the bathroom last time.
Let's big him up this time.
Right?
The man's a legendary football coach.
We just talking to him earlier.
He was talking to him earlier.
He sent about 20-something kids to the NFL.
So he changed their lives.
I know that.
He owe me a jersey, too.
Oh, he's got to get it for you, but let me tell you something, right?
Let me tell you something.
Speaking of coaching.
Better world peace.
Nah, he can't be the coach.
Of way.
The Knicks.
The next.
My auditioning.
You see the Instagram?
It's out there.
Hold up.
Look, look.
Yo.
Nah, it's a matter.
Yo-hoo.
How hard.
It's out there.
He'd think I just get him out the clear sky.
No, it's awesome.
That's up the wrong.
You actually, you could coach her.
That boy's standing with a bowtide of suit like the little guy talking about.
I want to be the coach.
He's going on.
Yeah, but you're even getting an interview?
Are they?
They sure.
Y'all, y'all trying to, this is why you're out of pocket.
Why are y'all going to these other organizations trying to steal their coach?
What's wrong with John, Joe?
Why?
You want to know the real spill?
Yes.
You want to know the street spill?
Because you're in the South Bronx.
Yes.
It would have been Fowler if they were the coach,
They would have fired Coach Tibbs
and had the coach
behind his back already that they talked to
to put him in there.
We would have been like,
yo, you did him dirty.
You understand what I'm saying?
They at least fired him.
And now we don't got,
they're about to have to call him back.
They got to spend the block.
They got to spend the block.
Why I'm trying to get Mark Jackson?
I love Mark Jackson.
That's deeper than up here in one.
We don't know it.
I thought you might know something.
Yeah, that's David and Galahua.
That's deep.
David and Goliath, but let me tell you something.
David and Goliath. Let me tell
you some. You sure ain't saying the right one.
Yes. It's David and Goliath because it
feel like he's going up against
a giant. You know what I'm saying? He deserves
it. Those chips at Golden State was his.
To me, I don't know what happened
why they got him out. I've been
begging for Mark Jackson before Tibbs came.
Mark Jackson's been the guy
Don't know what it is
Right
But you learned in coaching
You got to the league
You know they say that term
You can take a horse to the water
But you can't make him drink
Yeah
Michael Jordan learned that shit fast
Huh
The goat the greatest of all the time
He went on that sideline in
Charlotte
He saw them guys wouldn't play like a
Yes
He tried to coach?
Yeah, he was the owner.
He was the owner, but he was on the bench calling place.
He was like that, though.
He smacked Malik Munk in his head during the.
Yeah, but the point I'm saying is even the greatest of all time can't get guys to listen.
The greatest of all time.
Brian do a good job at coaching his team and playing.
He do.
That's funny.
He got homeboy, JJ Reddick.
You got to give him some credit.
You said greatest all the time.
So I was trying to make sure he did it right.
No, no, no.
No.
Oh, that's it.
That's what you want, the Bible moment.
This is the shit.
You saying LeBron is better than Michael Jordan?
No, I'm not.
I just think LeBron the greatest.
He did everything.
I think you delusional.
There's too much delusional.
No, we can't have top-tier people being delusional.
We already got everybody delusional out here.
You're adding to the Schizophrenia.
You got this shit fucked up.
What do you think, Jada, my business partner?
I don't like to chime in on that.
I think MJ is the greatest in everything after that.
However you want to put it.
Kobe, Brian, Brian, Colby.
Cool.
I'm with that.
MJ is the gold of all goats.
You've seen that.
I don't know you can't put them with it.
You see that Utah.
You're saying because of like,
Cross mania.
I'm just saying because he...
No, not great a monus.
He's better than everybody.
You're wearing his shirt.
Only black and Latino people do that.
If it wasn't no, Mike, it wouldn't be no none of them other nick.
And that's, I'm not...
We raw for comparing Ron with Jordan anyway.
Compare Jordan with some...
One of them things that came out when he came out.
No, yeah.
I mean, they're different errs.
But I'm just saying, like, for me.
At this point, we got to compare Jordan to, like,
Messi or, like, Serena Williams.
What?
You know, we got to compare against the coach of everybody.
Like, John Brady.
Yeah, yeah, whatever.
I'm going to go.
Yeah.
That's how I'm going to go.
You have a lot.
You have got to stop.
No, but think about it.
Brian been the man since he's been the greatest player since he was 16.
Like, we've been.
I love it.
I love LeBron James, I am a stand, bro.
When the next news...
Ron did something nobody else does it.
Every year the next news, I jump on the LeBron bandwagon one state and boo.
I love LeBron James.
I do believe he deserves all the glory.
He is not Michael Jordan.
And I don't like this new generation.
Sometimes I'm watching...
Hold up.
Let me say this.
No, no, no.
I'm watching this.
This is distra- this all the way fregling.
I'm throwing a foul right now on this.
I've seen highlights with young kids saying,
look right there, he wasn't really filed.
He scored two there.
That's how he has 30 in the game.
Now, if they would have called the pick,
he would have had two less points.
Hey, yo, bro, the man great.
No, he's great.
Yeah, it's him and Brian.
Well, Kobe got something.
to say.
Nah.
About that, too.
Yes.
Kobe, Kobe Cole, but Brian did, bro, it's crazy.
Let me tell you, quick.
Just a quick.
They both out of high school.
Y'all, y'all, just a quick, quick story.
Jayda, I know you don't want to speak on this, but you have to talk.
You have to talk.
You got to talk.
Political records.
Yo, we're going to get you a new record later.
Political records.
Played the motherfucking years than anybody.
But they all had to say opportunity.
And he still average you 25.
I think Ryan is incredible.
But you can't take nothing from Mike or Colby.
I'm not taking enough of him.
Mike is the blueprint, bro.
Jordan on the Wizards.
At 40?
In a better league.
Let me explain, son of you, what these people doing.
They're doing it in basketball and they're doing it in hip-hop.
Okay.
They come in here, they're smarter.
And so they come in here and they say, all right,
Jordan average
28 points again
let's just say
I think it's 32 or something right
I'm going to score
33 to 34 every game
cool
Jordan that's why all of a sudden
LeBron said he ain't chasing
rings
whoa
he's been chasing
them motherfucking rings
that's all we see it
we don't even know
if LeBron is better than Steph Curry
we don't know that
Oh,
Steve Curry,
let me explain something to you.
Can you let this go?
Stop and talk.
Jada.
I don't know what's got the reins.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
Look, right now.
I love Steph.
No, no.
The two guys,
he changed the whole game, brother.
That's a fact.
He got seven-footers thinking they shoot threes.
That's a fuck.
These are the two guys.
You think LeBron
want to see Steph Curry cats
and never.
ring before him. It's impossible
brother. They're the two fighting.
I don't think Brian care no more. He broke
all the records. He's like, he's got the most
bucket. Not anything you can do and more.
He cares.
He's just playing for cardio.
He just don't want to go home yet.
Change the narrative
now. He
cares. He wants
to chip. What are you talking about?
The guy tries to die on the court.
You know what you got to do to be
40 years old and scored 20 points in
You gotta be bionic.
That's why he's the best ever.
That's why he liked that.
Oh, man.
And he got to look at the teams he ran into.
I know we can talk about some other stuff,
but you look at the teams he ran into, no disrespect.
Mike, but some of them teams, they knock the KD, Steph,
Clay Thompson, Drake Brown,
Charles Barkley's team.
Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley.
They better than KD and him?
Let me explain, say you, the competition.
Nah, stop.
Competition.
Listen,
Listen, competition is the competition.
We always had, we couldn't get to the championship
because Reggie Miller was busting our ass.
Everybody got somebody or somebody.
There's always an arch nemesis.
They always are crew to get busy.
They always this.
You not just waltz into a championship.
No, never.
The guy just was far superior than everybody.
The guy wasn't scared to join the dunk contest.
He did it.
Oh, he took a year off.
He never was a Game 7?
He didn't with a Game 7, you're right.
But who they played?
Tyree won game 7.
Mike was a back one of the shit.
Mike already had to feed out my game set.
Don't do that.
Who they played, though?
Utah.
How do they play, though?
Utah.
I watch Kairi make them shots.
Utah Jazz.
I watch a ball.
Utah Jazz better than that stir a team.
I was at the game.
I watched a ball.
Come on, man, who he played?
Get babbled in.
to Ray Allen's hand and won the chip.
That shit was babbled.
My thing is this.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Now, you want me to talk this.
You want me to talk to this.
Yeah, let's go.
We locked in.
What's we got me here for?
I'm locked in.
We locked it.
I'm in the building in Jersey.
Parked my car in the parking lot.
Yeah.
I come up to the lobby because you've got to change elevators to go to the apartment.
I get to the lobby.
There's about 30 people.
All white, Asian, everything sitting in the hallway.
I want to see what's going on.
The security guard has a TV this little on the thing, and it's the championship.
Right?
It's the Lakers playing.
Kobe Bryant is playing the game.
They down three.
He's in the game.
The other team got the ball.
He hits the ball off the other team.
The ball hits the guy.
game. All 30 people
said, ah, fuck!
Oh, all 30.
That ball was
thrown in, he did that curl,
popped the three with an A and won and won the
fucking game. They all knew it
before he touched the fucking ball.
That's greatness. How many times
I see LeBron walking that dugout?
No, no, how many times I
seen LeBron at the end of a game
walking in that shit? That ain't Kobe
Bryant, bro. I mean,
I watched it in real time with
30 people.
I average 40 in the fun.
Let me ask you this.
Cool, bro.
Did you watch the finals with Brown Hawk now, Eagle Dala?
No, he didn't watch that one.
You ain't seen that one?
He didn't watch that one.
I actually, I actually, Remy Miles, a Golden State fan.
I actually was always rooting for LeBron.
And I felt like it was unfair for him.
He had them boys on all cylinders.
He had Curry.
He had Thompson.
Igor Dala, Jemong Green.
That's not.
race what he brings to the game.
Shout to Dray.
Them boys were shooting that shit.
I watched LeBron run from this side and that side and this side of that side.
I was feeling sorry for it.
I kept arguing with everybody.
Like, yo, this ain't fair, though.
This ain't fair.
And they was like, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, splash, brother.
He literally had four of the guys with him and was running coast to coast trying to, he had no chance, brother.
sometimes you get up against
an opposition where you have no chance
fair enough so that's to Jeff's
point is what he's trying to tell you Jordan
never had to go through that type of adversity
because he was better than everybody
you got to blame God
who fault is it
whoever they put in front of him
he had to fade away
he had to fade away
and by the way
by the way
Michael Jordan was shooting
with actors
you knew that shit
going in, bro.
So, y'all, everybody
do that.
The first joining teams, though.
He had everything.
He had some horrible team before he got Scotty and all of them.
He did.
Bro, took that all 17 to the playoffs.
Against the Spurs.
Who was on that time?
No, no, no.
He took who was on the finals?
He didn't even count the class.
No, you rather get beating the finals.
I'd rather don't get swept than nothing.
But, you know, losing the finals, they get swept.
Losing the finals.
You want to know something?
You want to know something?
Sweat in the final.
You lost in the first round.
You can't even drink a Celsius.
It's no celebration at all.
Take up to Celsius.
In this conversation, Michael Jordan, LeBron,
right there is where you turn the TV off.
Bam, on LeBron.
That's it.
It's over.
It's over, guys.
I made it at 22.
Turn it back on.
I was 22.
He did.
did something.
He was in the finals of 22, Joe?
Yeah, no.
He can't just say, they both did
something nobody's ever going to do.
What makes you think LeBron
is better than... Because he's been doing this,
he's been having a microscope on this 16.
He got the best, he got the best health.
God bless him.
He got the best health.
Who fault is that?
No.
No.
No.
No, that you don't want to bring God in.
I just like what you're taking away from MJ.
I'm not taking nothing from Brown.
No.
I ain't let you.
I take no
that's how we feel.
We preserve the culture.
No, perfect.
And I don't like,
I didn't speak to Kobe under the thing.
Kobe, you really,
oh my God.
Kobe.
What?
Do you trying to act like
Kobe ain't the one?
Are you looking at me?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Kobe can't just make them all.
Kobe.
Kobe did the Achilles,
went over there and tied the two shots.
But you know what kind of
pain that boy was in to go up to that line and shoot them two shots that's it's different
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What about the Vegas being sold for $10 billion?
I love it.
I'm all about making money.
I don't care if somebody sell stocks.
You want to be a cultural owner.
I just want to make money.
Thank God they made $10 billion.
We big are than everybody.
8, 9. 7, 8.9.
No, no, we're bigger than everybody.
This is where the money is.
at. This is why no disrespect
and God forbid, but this is why
this is why the Taliban
want to blow up New York. This is where the money
at, bro. Our tickets
is out of control. You know
all the money's in New York City.
I don't know if people want to be delusional.
You could be from anywhere else. You got to
come up here for them hedge fund guys.
The money's here.
How much of your seats at the door?
Like, I'm playing...
We saw.
Everything out of this world.
And they, the shit's all away.
Playoff time, them shit was $140,000 to see shit like that.
So the second row was costing a lot of two.
Oh, no, no, Indiana was $5,000.
Up there by Governor Bill Bradley-Jergers.
Hold on, let's just go here.
The second row was, how much the second row was?
Indiana, Boston, Boston, the great Boston Arena arena,
and we can't take nothing from the Boston self.
Their court side seats was going for like 20.
This shit was going to 140,000.
What?
So, that's course side.
Yes.
You're up in the 30.
You're getting beat up by macho man Savage fans and shit like that.
Hoeksters, Hulk Hogan, nigga.
You know up there, you better watch yourself.
You go up there and can they push these a little over there.
You got, you got, you got day for everybody's.
He got day for everybody's seats.
They will choke.
What's them called?
Showing you love, they will choke you out.
You all.
Oh, brother.
These is down lower than Luther, right?
Luther is like, what's Luther?
The sad truth is, the sad truth is, these seats are over price.
All way up.
The sad truth is, it's too expensive.
It's New York City.
All the money's here.
So you got any story you tell in music or basketball or anywhere.
And I, please, guys, I love everybody from all the money come back here.
Anybody.
You think basketball?
This is where basketball is the greatest in New York.
I can't say that.
I know, it's Indiana, but I was going to let you go.
I was going to let you go.
The Mexican, what you do?
Yeah, I was going to let you do, but, like.
I can't say that.
I know that you guys, I know, I know the only problem with Indiana.
We are Indiana fans, but we need restaurants to stay open past 9 o'clock in Indiana.
I'm tired of eating beef jerkeys for fucking dinner over there.
Like, you got to stop.
I know we got hot dogs.
There's no glissies at night at the time.
You want a fucking...
You're going to get me.
What's the beef?
You are not getting Waggoo after nine out there, bro.
You got to tap in with Freaky Mike for the hot dogs.
You got it at the corner.
You got at the corner.
If you're staying downtown in my city, you got to go to the corner.
You're going to get you a glissie.
Your two hot dogs is ready for you at all time.
Let me explain, send to you, I got super love for you.
you in Indiana
and I got super love
for Cleveland. But after
9 o'clock, unless
you're from the hood and you know
the lady that cooked something, you are
eating a beef jerky
for dinner from
the gas. You just got to tap in with us when you come on.
I have to. You have to.
Because I went out there. I was out
there for the All-Star.
Oh, man. All-Star was bad.
I ain't got. You came in a blizzard.
We had a blizzard. You got to tap in with us.
Because I was here for All-Star here.
That's what he made it.
Name of food, the weirdest food in the world.
It was open.
Hold up.
Name of weirdest food in the world.
You're going to say y'all got it.
What you want to say for Cambodia?
You eat that shit four in the morning in New York, man.
I know you're about to say that.
Good as hell.
It's a bigger difference.
It's a bigger city.
It's a bigger city, man.
I want to ask you all about music, though.
Okay.
Hip hop.
Where do y'all feel like the state of hip hop is,
right now. And do New York
breed the best rappers? Lyrical,
lyric-wise. That's my question
for you. That's a real question. No, that ain't
the question. Second part?
It's a debate. I'm on Twitter. I'm not.
I'm telling you all, it's a debate. I mean, Twitter
is not a fair thing
because it's people from, it's people
that ain't in people.
Yeah, but the spot
I fall without, I don't care with
talk to them. I don't know they were saying
they were saying California,
LA. State of hip-hop.
They were saying L.A.
You want me to do that?
They were saying L.A.
They were saying L.A.
But you know where to make it.
You know where they're...
It's right at that.
Okay.
So, y'all, okay, y'all,
I'll give me y'all self-clear of how y'all feel about the state of hip-hop right now?
The state of hip-hop, as long as it's...
As long as it's active in a live, it's always a good thing.
But I always say the same thing.
It's like a Ferris whip.
You know what I mean?
It just keeps turning.
Some new shit.
It goes back to some old shit.
Some more new shit comes out than it.
It's about being able to stay on the wheel.
Of course, everything that comes out,
not going to be a cup of tea or not going to be something.
You play in a whip or play, you know, on your own.
But it is what it is.
You don't like everybody's game.
Yeah, that's how music is.
Because you'll be on a lot of people with features.
That's why I asked you that.
I mean, the pay is good.
Sometimes it's paid.
Sometimes I like the song.
It's not paid in the song.
Now, I'll say I salute all the youth.
Facts.
Even if I don't like your music
because the kid that's putting out music successfully,
he's not robbing people's mothers at the gas station.
Right?
And I also see them as not themselves.
So I know that Jada takes kids
whole family. He got his crew. He helps them with their bills. He pays them. One guy is like
30 jobs. So when I see a young kid rocking and golf a bit, he become like Travis Scott or
something like that. He's open. He got a thousand guys getting paid off of him. I look at that.
Now, we're in a different time. You know, we've been waiting forever for a group of young
kids to come back out and start spitting. Now, you have individuals that, you have individuals that,
spit, you know, but like I said, I don't criticize what they do, but, you know, I think more of the
youth is party-driven rather than lyrics. So they make them like them party records. You know,
my daughter, right now my daughter loves this record called the deuce, the tray, the forward
to the trade, to the deuce, the tray.
She got me like,
I'm like, throw on the boys the men.
Like, I'm deuce to the trade out of here, bro.
With the boys of men.
Like, yo, she's playing that shit.
That's the TikTok that took over to him.
My God, daughter comes.
Remmy's daughter, Kenzie.
She throws on the TikTok match,
the deuce, the trade,
the did it to the day.
And that's great.
He's obviously a hit, right?
And I like that record.
But, you know, it's more about party, dance, you know what I'm saying,
rather than, you know, the days of when we fell in love with hip-hop.
Originally, it was about, you know, I just saw a clip with Eminem coming over here
talking about the time he heard Raq Kemp for the first time.
He was like, yo, I had never heard nobody like this, you know,
and we come up from that.
You know, I used to bust my bubble.
This guy's more gifted lyricist to me.
me. You know a Fat Joe. Fat Joe. Fat Joe love hip-hop. Fat Joe was a hustler who had to teach
himself how to rap as a hustle. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? And get better and better
and better. This was my way out. Like I'm like, okay, I'm going through. It wasn't like he was
born to rap. No, no, I'm telling you the truth. Eminem, JZ, big pun. These are guys game.
These guys were born.
Kendrick Lamar, these guys,
gnazes, they was born to rap.
It was no other occupation.
I'm sure he would have figured it out.
We're selling coffee now, Kiss Cafe.
Right?
But this was it.
He was blessed with this profession.
Some people are carpenters, some people are painters,
some people are this.
Some of these guys, it was just a no-brainer.
This is what they're born to do.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, you're...
It's different rappers, you know what I mean?
I can look at Master P and say he was never lyrical.
I could say he was one of the greatest businessmen
that ever played this game and put a whole state on his back.
Do you see what I'm saying?
So it's this, you know what I figured out, you know,
because I truly am a hip-hop historian.
I should have the bifocals on the shit
where you pull out your pocket and be like, like, I'm telling you.
Come on.
I should be.
One lens, but not.
I should have the one shit that can see if it's a real
Dermina or, you know, I should have that shit.
The one thing I figured out that everybody ain't figured out.
And he got it, and I guess I got it, right?
The people got to like you.
Okay.
So the love affair comes with Cardi B being funny on Instagram,
telling jokes, then she gets on love and hip-hop,
and then she gets one to go.
Bodak Yellow
she's at it
but people love her
people love French Montana
it's not about
yo let's battle
French Montana against Raq Kim
or Kendrick Lamar
that's not what he do
but people love
him
and when people love you
you know
that's it right there
that's the support
you know how many guys I've seen
that were the greatest
rappers
the greatest singers
The most talented.
I'm talking about the most.
Right now I'm thinking of one guy
who's an R&B singer.
He actually trains
all the R&B singers that we love.
He put out records
with stars and this
because he's phenomenal.
Never blow.
Handsome guy
sings like fucking an angel on earth.
You know how many guys I know
wrote hit records
for artists, but when they wrote
for themselves, it
went nowhere.
And so I
digested and soaked
all the analogy into
hip-hop, realizing that
they got to love you.
We've been seeing these one-on-one matches.
Beasley and Lance.
You're going to get out there
and give anybody to smoke?
Yeah, me and Brendan's post a play here in the summer.
Wow. Oh, that's going to be
a good one. We ain't going to be in New York.
Pulling up.
L.A.
They should go to the park.
No, no, no, we be there.
No, wherever it's out.
I think I got to be there.
We got to be there.
One-on-one.
Yeah, him and Lou Will played a little bit already.
It's supposed to be me, him, Tile Off.
They played a little bit.
Like, they played the three.
But they tried to say it was just a little preview.
Do you agree with Mello?
Our guy saying that he'll smoke anybody one-on-one?
Yeah, Mello different.
But I don't know how healthy he is.
Mello different.
Mellow different.
Former Nick of Bark out of the street.
Giff, Brooklyn.
Melo is different.
Melo is different.
This one on one player ever.
Huh?
The best one on one player ever.
And I definitely don't disagree.
Besides Kevin Durhan.
Yeah, besides KD.
I gotta give a shout out to Crump, Shreve and Lowe.
That's this spot.
My brother bought me, my brother Stiles bought me this IWC.
Is an I-M-C?
Excuse me for my birthday.
It's mean joint.
Crump, Shreve, and Lowe.
I appreciate you.
Make some noise for my birthday.
brother's five guys.
Appreciate your job.
Great guests. Great fucking guest, man.
Experience.
We appreciate y'all.
Appreciate your job, man. Thank you.
You know what it is.
We're family for life.
We locked in by volume.
Shout to the volume.
And we're going to keep rocking on.
Peace, y'all.
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