Joe and Jada - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Ashanti & Nelly on relationship & breakup, Verzuz, music & 'We Belong Together'

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Grammy Award-winning, multi-platinum selling artists, and couple, Ashanti and Nelly. Joe goes in on how his Verzuz between himself and Ja Rule was the spark that rek...indled Ashanti and Nelly's relationship after a 10-year break up. Next, Jadakiss goes down the line of awards and accolades of the two as they discuss the history of their music careers. Joe talks about how he first met Ashanti and just how impressed he was with the young songstress and why he wanted her on their hit song “What's Luv?” Finally, Ashanti and Nelly discuss their new show on Peacock, ‘We Belong Together,’ and why they decided to do a reality TV show. Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano return to headline the most decorated boxing card in history, featuring 9 world champions and 21 titles on the line. Streaming LIVE Friday, July 11 on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/82035642 #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. A fully Black. Fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcasts from IHeart Media to hella Black, hella queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yo, no talk. Every time I see this, he was advocating when we weren't together. Nelly! Water!
Starting point is 00:02:22 Every time I see him kiss, Nelly! My God, how you been there? Yeah, yeah. That's great. What is you? Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? Joe Crack, the dawn. It's your boy Jada.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. First things first, we like to welcome our guests, Ashanti and Nellie. Make some noise. We just make some. Before we even get in any questions, yo, crack, I think they're trying to steal a little bit of your percentage or something, you know. Let me scream trying to do.
Starting point is 00:03:14 First of all, I ain't even say nothing. Never came right in with like, yo, crack, you're trying to take the credit. It's the fucking truth. Why I'm always getting scolded in this joke? I was trying to protect you, champ. don't protect you know what's up i'm trying to protect you no no no but you know what's up don't i'm not lying i was there i was there you was there you was on my phone
Starting point is 00:03:40 yo listen they announced the how you doing brother and sister hey joe listen they announced the versus my first i'm not even going to lie to you come on it was like viral i'm not going to be it wasn't viral it wasn't viral it It was viral for your call because it came so fast. And it said, Yo, brother, you leave me there? I didn't know I was in for the fix, right? I'm like, yo, you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Pre-meditated. You guys had just did the verses. You actually, um, fuck me up because your verses was so hood and so ghetto. They was, no, no, I'm just saying. They shoot me dice. No, I love it. It's the greatest, it's the greatest moment of here.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Pop, I've seen in my lifetime recent, right? I'm just keeping it real with you. But they definitely was, you wasn't at the bathroom. They were shooting dice and smoking blunts at the bathroom. Girls had to walk over dice games. This shit was C-74 like the talent. No. So you had me thinking I was the next versus that it was going to be get out.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know what's up. I'm thinking about all these underground sauce. He called me. I said, man, Nellie might be too big for this. Because by the way, Nellie then sold 30, 40 million records. We're going to get into that. We're going to get into it. So I said, yo, you know why you might want to fall back, right?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Uh-oh. And then I'm going through it. And I said, man, we better call dirty back. But I didn't know you were setting me up the whole time. And so I go, I call you back. He was like, I'm there. You're my brother. One thing I can say, you know, you might just, you know, hey, that's your wife.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Say no more. This is my sister on another level. Oh, I know that. So I don't think people really understand that when we call brother and sister, that's a different type of talk. So it's like it's a different type of talk. It's like, yo, that's my sister. We have friends, associates, people.
Starting point is 00:05:46 But when we're in that lane, it's a different type of lane. And so I don't think nothing of it, man. And you came out there sleepwalking. You seen it, you was like, You walk across the whole shit. I see you. I've been duped. I've been taken for a ride.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I've been taking. It had nothing to do with you. Nothing. You think he was in the way this guy so rich. You think he care about coming to versus? This guy come over here. I love this guy. You lied, man.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You wanted John. All right. Listen. And you caught a burking and a baby in a male tired and shit. You're out of control with the shit. Never in my life. A burking and a baby is amazing. But the scenario was a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Okay. Right? I did. I saw the verse of what's the name and I knew what was going on. I didn't. I was going to just so happen I was up in New York. I was going to be there for something a little bit different. You was there.
Starting point is 00:06:56 early two 30 I was there super early so when it was like that I was just letting you know yo I'm up here you gonna need I'm gonna be up there if you need me to pop out I was just letting you know because I I knew what verses was going it was different from the time I did it this shit had been this shit is mad went to Madison Square Garden hold up one second you added to the delusion like you came in my room early and was like you got this he can't mess with you you I'm like y'all yeah We're going. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:28 this guy got a thousand hits. Hold on. No, I told you to recognize the being wired. I said recognized me. That wasn't me. That was your other sister had you got had you pumped it ready to. She had you ready to go.
Starting point is 00:07:47 But I definitely said, no, you got to do you. You know, you got this because you're him. You were pacing. it was on your mind you knew what you were in for oh that's a that's a you knew what you're in for you were like yo that's a different conversation got a thousand hits mo this guy's got a I said don't worry about you know you got this baby let me explain you got this the first is the closest thing to a boxing match yeah so when I came down I said the uncle Dan's house in jersey when I came
Starting point is 00:08:23 downstairs the doorman was like get him Joe I get in the car, I swear to God I get in the car, the FedEx man was like, get them crap everywhere you go old lady crossing the street get them, Joe, drag them. I was like, yo!
Starting point is 00:08:40 I was like Canello or something. I was like, oh! And then, just like a boxing match when it got to like that 13, 14th, 15th thing, I just kept feeling body blow, body blow.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Body blow. Body, boy, I said, oh, my God, this guy, he's swinging for the fences. Man, you guys had a great man. How do you feel in that? Because you was in the... Oh, man, I felt like the tennis match. You know what I'm saying? I was like this.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Okay, Joe, Joe, going back and forth. But, you know, I love both of y'all. You know what I'm saying? So I was definitely going to be there. But you know, when I spoke to you after, why you ain't telling me this thing he was going to be... Ha! Why you ain't tell me? He had to.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Joe is just as guilty as dirty. Thank you, Jada. I called my brother. I said, yo, I don't go against this woman for nobody. It's facts, factual. I don't go against her for nobody. Hi, Ram, I don't go against them, right? This guy lined me up.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I didn't think about it until he came out and started sleep walking through the, they got video of it. When I came upstairs at rehearsal, Rim had him in their, like, custom model in Tyson. Oh, no. You know that's a kid. You're going to get up, Joey.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You're going to just left, right, left. I was like, yeah, crack was right. Look like you was in their sway. You announced not only that, right? She got pregnant behind this thing. Like, Shanti never got pregnant in her love. Hold on. You know, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:10:22 What the hell? What the hell? What the hell? What the holy! We heard you say that Nellie set you up. We heard Shani say, you set her. I was also a guest on that version. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:41 To do New York, which I had to end. And being in the crowd or being in the cut where I was at, watching the show before I went on, God is my witness. when you saw him we got the footage it was like a kid with the bike
Starting point is 00:11:01 they put PlayStation the bike he wanted everything you had a different that was at the end of the show you had a different glow it was all mesmerized she has a hit record
Starting point is 00:11:15 called mesmerized no she got it now we love you you're dirty let me tell you the size was looking all right She was on fire.
Starting point is 00:11:27 No, no, hold up. You're a handsome guy. Pause, whatever they want to say. You've always been a handsome guy. The ladies love you. But this woman around that, she was on fire. You're seeing all them bathing. She was in St. Croixie.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Too much. I'm like, yo, I was hating on her. I'm calling her. I'm calling her. What the fuck? Get out of there. Get out of there. She's in Bahamas, Turks and Keiko.
Starting point is 00:11:53 every week bathing soup shit. I'm like, she's like, she looks more beautiful than when she was younger. This is a fact. You was looking at them pictures on that IG. Correct. Joe. Did I? You don't want to do this show.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Hold on. I don't want to do this shit. You do it. You run the show. Let them talk. Let me in. Hold on. Was I by myself? What do you mean? I had somebody with me. I didn't come there for that. And I was in a situation.
Starting point is 00:12:27 When I walked in your room, it was somebody with me. I didn't even notice. Yeah, I know you did. When I walked in your room, it was somebody with me. I did not come there. I thought it was Jermaine DePrievee with you. That's the only God. I see it with you. Domain to
Starting point is 00:12:43 crazy. No, no, I'm telling me. Because here's the thing. I did not want to cause no friction. I did not. You two brothers was there. You know. You know Doing what you was doing. And I was like, yo, this is a beautiful situation.
Starting point is 00:12:58 You know me. So I'm going to keep it pee. All right. I'm, you know me. Yeah. And you know me. The audience kind of know me for 30 years,
Starting point is 00:13:07 but they don't really know me, know me. And some of the shit I say sound crazy, but I need 10%. Whatever is this Brad Pitt that this kid, Mohammed Ali, going to make,
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm in this management contract or something. Right. This guy looked like Muhammad Ali, where he was born. Yeah. Have y'all showed him yet or he's going to be on the show? No, we didn't show him yet. Not even in the shop.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I'm leaving that to her. I was here for his night, month, birthday. Yes, we sang happy birthday in the UK nine months. Oh, gosh, that was there. She got a good baby, man. Oh! She lucked out. He's always laughing.
Starting point is 00:13:46 He doesn't cry. I just got a chance to see him beautiful as energy. Oh, man. I appreciate it. Oh, thank you. I told everybody I said like this I'm on the red carpet it was like did you see Ashanti and Nellie's baby I said the most beautiful in the world this man was born no this man was born with a full set of hair he got that man the skin right the skin I'm not exaggerating
Starting point is 00:14:16 I'm sorry I don't see him yet but this guy's a star and I know I got at least to get some type of paper We got you, uncle. Me and you both, because he a half a meal in the hole, because I was on tour when he decided to come out two weeks early. So he kind of cost me two shows. No, he cost me two shows in a party. And I need my money. He started, he was born and a half a mill in the hole.
Starting point is 00:14:42 We're going to make that up. We're going to make that up. Don't worry about it. We got a, we got the birth of a legend. Yeah. We appreciate it. Thank you. Bless you.
Starting point is 00:14:52 So you know, love. Yes. Love overpowers, hate. Overpowers every other thing. You know, sometimes hearts miss each other. It ain't always guaranteed to hit each other and find the right thing. And so you guys definitely spun the block and came back and your hearts joined together. And there's nothing like that for you guys to make.
Starting point is 00:15:21 a TV show called We Belonged together. This is like, and this is a segue, past it too. Hey, let's go out, yeah. Oh, thank you, Jager. Passed it, man, amen, brother. I mean, what, I mean, I know what it's like. I'm just asking you, you're both more matured. You figured out, damn, man, that was my guy.
Starting point is 00:15:45 You figured out that was my girl. We both well off in life, thank God. I think that's basically it, man. We had a chance to see. And I hate using that example, but it is. I mean, it's in a way, not to minimize it, but it's like getting the chance to test drive a vehicle. Then you load like, yo, that's the one.
Starting point is 00:16:10 That's the one. You know what I'm saying? It's like, well, maybe it ain't something. Nah, it's all that. And there's some sort. So it's just like, yo, this is the one that you feel you want to ride off a You didn't be saying much. I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:16:24 This is a male-driven show. I see. No, we need the ladies to speak up. And that's amazing. She ain't talking. We need your perspective, Johnny. I mean, I agree. You know, I said, I feel like what's meant to be will be.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You know, we were together off and off for 11 years. We broke up for almost 10 years. And I didn't know what was going to happen, you know, the next time I saw him. We hadn't seen each other until that night. So, you know, when the breakup first happened, it's like, when you see him, I'm like, oh I'm a punch on us you know what I mean I hate him I'm just you know it was one of those so being at so much time went by that was the first night in almost a decade that we saw each other talk to each other anything so for it to happen like that it was just like
Starting point is 00:17:07 oh shit that was God you got the burking and the baby the burking and the baby don't play with me and the ring hello she got the ring Lorraine. No, Lorraine. She said to me. She says to me, she says, I don't know, she asked me what time?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yo, bro, why, you know, why it ain't working out for me like that, right? And I was like, yo, sis, you know, when a guy take you on a date, you got moms, 10 cousins, DJ, secure, like,
Starting point is 00:17:46 yo, on a date with a whole 12 clip. Imagine you take a girl. Girl, y'all, I like you. Let's go on a date. It's the whole fan. I said, your sister, maybe if you cut off some of the honorage on the date, she was like, you think so, I said, yo, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But the moral to the story is this woman has managed to have the cleanest reputation in this business. Because she had her mother and her family and her thing, you ain't with no washed up stories and all that. You got a prime time, right? Thank you. No, no. I mean, I'm telling you, I attribute that to you, of course, but I attribute that to your mother and your family for being there because the biggest problem, even in my projects when I grew up,
Starting point is 00:18:35 is women being influenced by other women. Women got dirt on her. She definitely wanted a friend to get dirt on her. Yo, but talk to him, but this. Yo, but this. And then, ha, ha. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And so she ain't got no dirt on her face clean. And so I love that for y'all too. Now, this man right here, I don't know if he knows, he took me on my first real tour. And Keisha Cole used to open up for us and she was saying, What's Love? What? What's Love? Oh, shoot. And we went all around the country and you and your entire crew, right?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Just all of y'all are treated me with so much love over the years. You guys, every time I see you guys, you bring a smile on my face. I mean, all of your guys, all of your guys are amazing. And this is, this, this, this, this, this is a beautiful day. Thank you, you know what you're saying? And, um, has this slowing up your schedule or y'all still? Nah, we still pure, pure, I know, definitely. I mean, with her, um, obviously with the baby, she's trying to,
Starting point is 00:19:48 less as possible but I'm doing the rest of the tour the rest of the year we did Australia, Canada and Europe she was actually with me for a majority of Europe and then now we start back here in the States and the end of this month
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Starting point is 00:26:02 I'm only here about the show. The show. Tell us about that. Well, you know, I did a reality show, so to speak, because I was before. But I wanted to show us fathers, single fathers at that time. You know what I'm saying? And I just thought it was a great way to show the rest of the world that you
Starting point is 00:26:22 could still be in here and still doing what we're doing. You know, you got your baby girl with you. You always keep your babies with you and things like that. And I thought that that would be a dope process. But doing this right here, I just wanted people to get a chance to see exactly the things that you talked about in the qualities of this young lady right here. You know, they don't get a chance to see her charisma, how funny she is. and everything from that standpoint.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And, you know, it's 2025. So you're looking for different avenues as well. You know, we got to think business at all times. You see what I'm saying? So she gets to think about everything else for me, and that's a blessing. But I got to think about the, you know what I'm saying, moving this shit forward and keeping the platform. What's it like for you?
Starting point is 00:27:03 You're a movie star, you're the number one singer, you're all of the above. What's it like being on TV with cameras or. around your family. I mean, it's, it's a lot. It was different, you know, because I'm a lot more private. And I just felt like when we spoke about it, obviously this was his idea. And at first I was kind of like, but then, you know, we're married. So I'm a team player.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So I was down. You know what I mean? And it's like us just having real lives and careers and traveling. We just got married. I had a baby. That's a lot. So it's kind of like we had to find time for the cameras. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:39 To kind of capture everything. So it was, it's a little. of a lot, but it's worth it. She got so many other great ideas that she wants to get off the ground and you know how business works. You know what I'm saying? You got to have avenues, outlets, platforms, and things to get those out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:57 You can have great ideas all day, but if you ain't got no where to put them, if you ain't got no way to push them, or if you don't, you're just sitting in the career of the work. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got no block of no workers. You just sitting in the house with a bunch of bricks. You know what I knew an artist who was for the time being He made nothing but hit records and I would check on him in the studio
Starting point is 00:28:21 And he would play y'all made this and this shit be fire And everybody go crazy in the studio and he'd go ah It just ain't right And he would erase the song Every night I would hear hit after hit after hit when it was like that Met the man red man thing he'd be like let me play you this and I'd be like yo Oh, not quite ready. The guy never came out
Starting point is 00:28:46 or never became a superstar, right? And so the problem is a lot of people, they procrastinate to the point that you talk out, you talk yourself out of the ideas. Yeah. You know, and so, in this age, you know, we had Jim Jones up in here,
Starting point is 00:29:03 and he bought a little film studio in the Bronx, he got them doing podcasts in there. We need to take Madison, our own hands. Exactly. And follow through with the ideas. Exactly. I'm with Shanti.
Starting point is 00:29:19 We at the Beacon Theater. And I never forget. We could go into everything, but I never forget when we got that phone call, Mama, that she sold over $500,000 in her first week, her first album. We're jumping up and down like the Wizard of Oz. That Guinness book.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, that Guinness book. We're jumping up and down in the middle of the street. Like, you know, the wicked witch is dead. Because I don't know if you remember how intense that was. It was like, what is it? What's the other? I remember. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:29:54 And we start running around. How does it feel to be on the Guinness book and be one of the biggest female superstars with the most longevity and relevancy in the game? I mean, honestly, it's a blest. lesson. I'm super, super humbled. And it's funny, when you talk about that, remember, I didn't know what none of that meant. You know what I'm saying? I'm a new artist. Maybe we're happy for you. Yes, everybody's happy and I'm looking. I'm like, well, is that good? 500,000. Is that a good number? You know what I'm saying? I've genuinely had no idea. Isn't a good number?
Starting point is 00:30:28 So I was just like super appreciative and to be able to be here today and still, as we both, were in an arena in London to a sold-out 20,000 seat a hole in a mic out, allowing people to sing on records is a blessing. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just so happy. I'm grateful. You know? You know, we're very
Starting point is 00:30:53 competitive in our house. Because, you know, we didn't like that a lot. That means the baby got all that's the dagger, though, that she throws. Like, my debut did a hat. No, no, she don't, but you did a love to. He didn't know. No. No. No. He's got a diamond.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Don't wait. No. I'm looking at half the first week. I'm going down down. She got me on that. There's nothing I can say. Oh, boy. She's saying.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I'm looking at the video. Yeah. Okay, hold on up. You 26 and 33. Hold on, Jay. That wasn't a week. You're 26 or 33. That wasn't a week.
Starting point is 00:31:30 That video come out. That was not a week. I'm going down down. You might be. You might be a little. That was not. in the numbers is 10 million solely
Starting point is 00:31:39 said that wasn't the week he got diamond you were talking about the week not talking about the week listen let me run down the hardware that they got his name house
Starting point is 00:31:52 there's a lot of hardware just listen ladies and gentlemen Nellie three Grammys four American music awards two BET Awards nine Billboard Award Nellie has sold over 21 million albums in the United States,
Starting point is 00:32:13 one of the best-selling rap artists in American history. Country Grammar Diamond, 10 million. Nellieville, Diamond, plus one, 11 million. Now, Ashanti, one Grammy, two American music awards, six ASCAP Awards, eight Billboard Awards. First debut album, 500,000 of first week, Triple platinum. Chapter 2, platinum.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Concrete Rose platinum. 36. It's a lot of the best of the best. Ashanti, 36 Christmas movies. You're a lifetime favorite. Race. But could be, have a Christmas dream of Rosal Berry. Just, I've been counting on money forever.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's competitive in the house, man. And a star. Oh, in a star. The star, can't forget the star. Can you forget the star. Yeah, it's nice. It gets real in there, man.
Starting point is 00:33:19 We love that, though. You know what I'm saying? We love that. That's beautiful competition. I met a shanty to put that under one room. Let me tell you something. I met a shanty. It's a blessing.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Could we, could I talk about that? Talk about it. I met a Shanty. Shanty was like the studio. just a studio body. You could call it Studio Ratt. That's what they used to say. That's what they used.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying that. Go ahead. Studio body. She up in there. And the first day I met her, she was so upset because they broke into her car and stole her radio. This woman was ready to file charges to the moon and back. What happened?
Starting point is 00:34:03 They just stole my radio. Cracket broke the way. I mean, it was like somebody murder somebody. I'm up in that shit. I'm like, yo, he stole the radio
Starting point is 00:34:13 with the Benzzy box. Oh, you take the box. It was like, they stole her shit. They stole my radio, bro. And you know, I would see her in the studio and then one day I asked him,
Starting point is 00:34:25 I said, yo, what does the girl do? Right? Because they was like gangster rappers, right? So they, ah, she sings R&B. Right? And then she did the, uh, big, I said, you want to write a hook for the big pun thing?
Starting point is 00:34:38 And she killed it. Smoked that joint. She smoked that joint. And then we did the West Love. Yep. And then after that, it was the princess of. That was it. Hip, I was soul.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And she, yo, no talk. Every time I see this, he was advocating. When we weren't together, Nelly, what are you doing? Every time I see her kiss. Nellie. My God, how you been? That's great. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:35:11 That's why you need that for ten. You know what you got me? At first he thought I was bugging out. Yeah, I used to be like Joey. Tom's tripping. It's crazy, right, because I also think of one situation, not to bring up anything negative because we just, but I remember the time I got into it with 50 Cent,
Starting point is 00:35:32 who, yo, fifth, what's up? We performed a Germany in two days. But I remember the time when I got into it with him at the MTV Awards. You know, his business is really crazy, right? Because you think everybody your man, everybody, this and this and that. Well, you was the only person at all the rappers that I knew that I seen Get Up. And you was telling me, y'all, I got you. Like, I'm holding you down.
Starting point is 00:35:57 In that, when I was like, yo, 50 said this. And then he came back and diss me. But you had my back? Well, I knew five. Me and five always had a great relationship. That kind of distorted them. Well, no, because, and just to tell, what was we at? MTV Awards.
Starting point is 00:36:16 That's what I thought he was going. We were at the MTV Awards, and they were sitting, like, a table right behind us. Now, I didn't have too much to drink. I'm hype. This is right before Kid Rock and Pamela and Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee. Slap the shit out of Tommy Lee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So they were something before Chris Rock and was Smith. We were sitting at the table right. They know that. And Kid Rock is sitting with us. Mm-hmm. And Tommy Lee is like a table over. And my cat, Kid Rock, that's my cat, too. He hot.
Starting point is 00:36:49 He hot is fish grease. He's sitting right there. He's like, I should go. And I'm gassing him. He's not going to go do this. You be asking him? Well, I'm not gassing him. You know what I'm like, shit.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It was me. If it was me. So he does what he does. So what he did? He smacked, who? Boy, he's smacked. Tommy. Tommy Lee.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Wow. You remember that MTV Awards out in Vegas? Yeah. We would stay right next to them. We were sitting at the table. But five was right back here, right? So I'm hype. I didn't got hype.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I didn't got big. I said, babe. Fits. I'll make that. I apologize. You want me to go over there? What? You make, don't be looking.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You want me to go, make. She was going to make. She was, nah, no way in my heart as I'm thinking she's gonna tell me to go over there. She's like, yeah, babe. Yep. Yep. That's a New York, God.
Starting point is 00:37:43 That's a new Y, that's good. Yo, that's a new yoke. So, kids, I'm like, I'm going. So I turn around, she can't see my face. I'm walking towards five, like, hey, man. Let me highlight. You know, you know, table full of G unit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:02 I'm like, oh, God, just he loved it. This is not going to go well. You know what I said? And I started laughing coming. He cracked the smile. I was like, he's fine, man. Hey, man. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Do me a favor. Will you, my old lady, man, do me a favor. Man, apologize for him. Ashanti, I'm sorry. That's exactly what he says. In the middle of the whole crowd in the audience. I was like, I was like, I turned back about.
Starting point is 00:38:34 By the way, I had personally 20 meetings with him over her. Oh, my God, yes. Without her even knowing, I didn't have sat down with him 20 different times. It was like, yo, bro, she got nothing that, like, you know, that's my sister, you bugging out, this, this, this, this. Twenty. Yeah, you didn't tell me to him, Mo. I know she got nothing to do with him, Mo, but what you want me to do is war. Man.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I was like, I was hot. Yeah. You was hard over that, right? Yeah, I didn't have nothing to do with it. And then after he said, he started, I was like, yeah, I was like, thank you. I thought that shit was going to go left. I swore to God. I thought I was out of the limb.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And with those guys, they love it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Those guys love it. Well, fortunately enough, when we came in the game up, we've always had a great relationship with everybody. We've been fortunate enough to stay out of a lot of different scenarios Even when you came down to one of my first birthday parties
Starting point is 00:39:40 Wow What hotel was that? It was downtown, I forgot Millenium, it was a millennium hotel Ladies and gentlemen In Atlanta? One of the craziest birthday parties It was the craziest birthday party
Starting point is 00:39:56 I ever mentioned I can't even say one of them It was crazy He was in a hotel. He had JD, DJ, he had everything you can think of. St. Louis. His room was one side in the hotel. Are you hearing me?
Starting point is 00:40:15 I'm focused. Not a floor. Not a tweet. One whole side was his room. It was a big ballroom. It was crazy. It was definitely big for our city and things like that, man. And they come, you know, because we was huge locks, huge locks fans.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You know, you were spitting. You were spitting, and they never really gave you credit for your lyrics and spitting. They look at you as you so big. No, no, no, no. Somebody gave credit for something. No, no, I'm just saying as an MC, as a spitter, he was spitting. I take the bag. You listen to the shit, he was spitting, and it never really gave you credit.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Lyrically. you know what? It always felt a little different because I try to find my place and everything in life. Oh, you find my place. You see what I'm saying? It don't matter what I'm in.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Find my place. And I hate to tell people to stay in their place because I don't want it to be like you can't grow. But if I find my place, I'm going to stay in my place. You know what I mean? And I found my place. And it's not about, I tell, give me my bag now. Bring my flowers to the grave.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I don't give shit about none of that because flowers die. You know what I'm saying? I need my bag now. So if you bring me my shit now, I'll worry about everything else. I ain't never really worried about credit because all the people that I fuck with, I fuck with. Like, just knowing that y'all are good people, we good people,
Starting point is 00:41:44 knowing I got this woman right here and everything else underneath the table. I ain't worried about it. On the surface, like this man said, 21 million. But that was in two albums. They ain't even talking about it. You got the country saw me. Right. You was country before.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Country, 2003. What's that song with the country song? Tim McGrath. Over and over and over and here's one of my favorite songs, too. Woo. And that was in 03, 2004, and Universal told me I was crazy. I was coming off in Nelliville. They had just cut me a $13 million check.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And I said, yo, I want to do a country song. They passed the fuck out. Why? You coming off of Nellivilleville. You just had dilemma, hot in the ear. Now you want to do country. Yes, because I'm lining up my avenues. I know if I land all of these different avenues, doors are going to start closing.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And if this door is closed, this door is open. If this door is closed, this door is open. I got all those number one singles, and they are all on every different format. Country, rhythmic, top 40. But when you heard Nelly, I want you. Nellie I Need you Nellia
Starting point is 00:43:00 I What you What you're thinking Nah That was a little Before my time Yes and That was
Starting point is 00:43:10 When the dilemma Come out When did the dilemma come out Oh Oh three Yeah that was before my time So you were just watching The video like
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Starting point is 00:47:21 rated on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts binge episodes one two and three on may 21st and episodes four five and six on june fourth ad free at lava for good plus on apple podcasts and what's the story with because i want the real story because i've never heard you explain this right um the fabulous record i hear it every day of my life with Tamia. If there's one record I hear every single day of my life. Maybe I listen to the old school stations. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:01 But the joint with Tamia, I can't escape that. But what happened with you? So this is what happened. Me and Fab did the record, right? Oh, so you did it first with him? No, yes. I did it first with him. They got the clearance, I'm assuming from Tamia to redo it
Starting point is 00:48:19 because it was originally her song. So when she was her song So he asked me to do the hook We went and did the hook He wanted to shoot a video I don't mean to talk about the past But He didn't want to clear
Starting point is 00:48:34 He did not want to clear me being in the video So they was like Yo what sense does it make to go with this single And we can't shoot a video Right so they went back to Samia And asked if she would do the video And then they put two versions So mine was on a radio, and then they had...
Starting point is 00:48:54 I go all around the world with you and I watch you perform that record and I said, this must have been her record. Because you ain't singing nobody else's records and you sing that song so passionate on tour. Thank you. And I'd be like, did they steal this shit for my life? Did she write this shit?
Starting point is 00:49:12 I knew there was a story behind this one record because you're doing a never show and I'm like, I tell Lorena too, I was like, yo, man, I think Ashanti, that was a record. They took it from her. You know, I've seen some crazy shit about what's the J-Lo? I've just seen it. It's one of them internet where you say, Joe.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Stop. All right. But it was pointed out. So you're going to deem me on my own. Love that's the thing? He didn't even if you're all my. It was Shanty Moore's record. And Ronnie Jirkins produced it for her, but he told him to make it the number one.
Starting point is 00:49:50 the first single. She didn't go with it at the first single, and he gave it to Jaylor. Jaylor took off with that shit. Oh, wow. That's like them stories. Yeah. That's almost like always on time.
Starting point is 00:50:02 You know, that Brandy was supposed to do that. Yeah. Brandy was supposed to do it. I happened to be in the studio. Put a Shanti on there and see what happens. Shanti always sounds good at that one. Because you know, Jaylo was supposed to be what's love. Yes, I remember when you told me that,
Starting point is 00:50:19 that was back in the show. like, we was on a, we was not a Zoom you stream, we was on something and I didn't know that. Remember, we were talking. I didn't know that. First of all, let's just say rest of peace, serve God. You know, I was supposed to be on We Are the World.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Who took the record, Jay, or who took your spot? I was supposed to do Bruce Springsteen part. We are all of the world. You know, he called Bruce, man. I'm telling you. It was a toss-off. They took Bruce, though.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I'm telling you what happened, right? So I get to the, they call me, Irv, Gotti, and Jaru, three in the morning. I go to the studio. This studio is out of my pay grade, too. It was one of them big shits with the big, like the hip factory to speak it. Like you're big-ass, that's like space.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I've been recording the Bummy studios my whole life. I get up in there like this, so they press the thing, And it's, then, then it was love, right? She's on it. And he's like, the Latino connection. You and your sister J-Lo, this will be life-changing. He's selling me all this shit.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And I'm like, yo, but what's up with the girl on the, she sounds perfection? So I'd be having this thing called like Demoitis. Mm-hmm. Don't say it. Don't play with it. Don't change the shit. Just like that. Live it like that.
Starting point is 00:51:48 It's like that. No what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. We did lean back. Scott Stor sent a mix. He added bells to it and all shit. I was like, oh, no. I want the demo.
Starting point is 00:52:00 If it's a hit, if it's a hit. Demo he isn't. Sorry that I said we leave, huh? And it was the best. This is fine because I've been at it. I didn't have a name for it. No, what it is is. What it is is, is you know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:52:16 You like it the way you like this. It's a hit. Is it any worse feeling in the world than when they send it back in and it sounds nothing like the original? I'm not going to say the lean back sounded nothing like the original. He just added like cowbells and shit. And I was like, yo, bro. You know, knock yourself out. The one that the world here ain't the one that I went to Virginia and sat with Farrell and did.
Starting point is 00:52:42 He changed the beat. The whole shit. Oh, yeah, no. P. No, no. It's the whole. I know about. post-production.
Starting point is 00:52:49 This was, I run the whole other. It's like, that's a whole other song. I was mad as hell. Ice pick, rest in peace. Shout out the Ferrell. They like, trust me. I'm like, no. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:53:04 This is not, it's a whole other, and it still came. Yeah, it's. A lot of times you got to go with your gut. But sometimes, sometimes it pays to, not too many times to switch up or work. Well, it depends.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It depends on who it is because... You could trust you, real, though. You know for a else. Some people got, they know what they're doing. You know what I mean? But a lot of times, you know, you got to go with your gut. I had things switched up again. My first single, Country Grammar.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Again, I never heard the radio version. Never heard boom, boom, uh-uh. The chorus was going down, down, street sweeper, going down, your street in a range rover. Street sweeper, cocked, ready to let it. go shimmy shimmy koko what listen to it pow light it up and take a puff pass it to me now never in my life heard boom boom um down down baby you're streaming the rain go boom boom uh uh a clean version that's the clean never heard it i cried cried they are trying to ruin me
Starting point is 00:54:11 i knew it and i ain't going to even lie boy listen i blamed it on new york See, they don't know country music. I swear to God. I swear to God. New York embraced you. And there's always a big lie. Right? There's a big lie.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And I'll say it's not from the Bronx. No, no, there's a big lie. He's not from the Bronx. He got this thing that all our guests is from the Bronx. Everybody. She shot the video to what's love in the Bronx, Fordham University. Don't do that to yourself. Listen, let me tell you, you're fucking.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I thought what I was going to say. You did it, but let me tell you something. He goes, so I'm scared to fly at the time. I get on the tour bus. I go from Vegas. I drive all the way down to Cancun. Got stuck up about six, seven times. All by cops, the Mexican dudes this small.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Guns as tall as these lights. They're in the middle of nowhere. 100 pesos. You know, by the seventh time, I had to grab the Bible. No. No. I had to grab the Bible and open it up and be like, God, please, I can't get robbed no more. It wasn't even for my, it was my fucking sanity. I was like, yo, they're sticking us up every hour. Some guy, some cop is pulling us off, getting us for a hundred hours. They're doing calling each other. Not anything. Stay on the way. Get them. Listen, so I get the can't. Right? And at that point, we perform it for. spring brink. So my album
Starting point is 00:55:47 is only selling $5,000 a week at the time. So I say, yo, I got to kill this. I tell Loretna, I said, you know, Loretna, I got to do something crazy. She said, go topless. Uh-oh. I said, what?
Starting point is 00:56:01 Go topless. There ain't no big guy ever come out there and have his shit all open, just throw a little towel on you. We went topless. Yeah. Me and Ashanti. It's out of here.
Starting point is 00:56:14 They ain't looked back. I feel bad for you now when I look at it because I was a big, I never stunk in my life, but I was a big boy sweating. I said, damn, Shani must have been like, this fat. Like, fuck wrong with him. And let me tell you something. The white people discovered fat Joe once, uh, what's love came on. I never performed for blacks and Spanish people for the first two years.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I was bar mitzvests, rodeos, all type of shit. Like, I'm getting the bag bag bag. I would be like, yo, when we're going to perform for black people? Like, what's going on? That means you get in the bag, right? And so the shit kept after we did that performance, all the white shows like Soap Talk, Saturday Night Live, they was like, this guy is called Joey Crack.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And they had an arrow at my butt crack. Ain't no white people loved it. This shit went up 10,000 a week, 20,000 a week. The shit went on fire. sold 2 million records. And it's really because that one performance turned that shit up on fire because they were making fun of me. But I guess it was like valuable. I had a time.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But it was confidence. They could make fun, but that you. They remember it. That's a moment. That's the moment, man. That's history right there. No, no, we got big history. We got big history.
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Starting point is 00:58:06 They belong together. Nellie, that's the, that's a strong time. to the ATL. How did that come about? Shout out to JD, man. Shout out to our So-So-Deft family. Been going to Atlanta for a long time, man. And I mean, Atlanta, a huge influence on Nelly.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Obviously, I'm a huge dungeon family. Dungeon family. All right. Goody-Mah, rest in peace, Rico. Goody-Mah, Big Gip, Seel Green. There is no Nelly without Seelow Green. You see what I'm saying? Like, just understanding that.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Big Gip. And then Outcast, you know what I mean? Like Outcast changed the whole way I was doing music, hearing them brothers, you know? So, and then met up with JD, my man Big Bob, who was security for JD at the time for a long time. And still is. He's just helping me out. Like, but yeah, man. And JD, that's part of why me and JD is so close and a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So J.D. did have an opportunity to sign me. I tell that story all the time. But me not knowing the business, I was a little bit upset with J.D. at the time, but knowing the business, I found out, you know, at that time he had just signed, what is it, just signed Mace, Harlem World. It's at the same time, he had just signed Mace Harlem World. And the homie Mace, you know, was going through his life and whatever he was going through and had to step away for a minute.
Starting point is 00:59:39 So, you know, those dominoes fall on a lot of different people at the time. And I was trying to come out right then and right there. But the thing about it is J.D. always kept a friendship with me as far as, yo, I can't sign you, but you're a cool motherfucker. And I was like, shit, this guy ain't got to let me hang with him. And you know what I mean? And he was still keeping it peep. So that's like a big brother to me, man.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And I've always been a so-so-deaf fan. and Tip and everybody else. I don't know, man, STL, the ATL got strong ties anyway. Like, a lot of people from STL in Atlanta. You know, here, too, New York, a lot of, they even got a Bronx day in Atlanta. They got every day in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yo, kids, they never want to pay me to do Bronx Day. They never want to pay. They got a Bronx day. You don't get fat Joe. You got to go do that. In the ATL, this is bad. You got to, no, no, they have a bronze day. I'll be wanting to go for free, too.
Starting point is 01:00:36 All things Bronx. You got to, they got to call you. Joe's got to be there to make it official. You know, what's up with these people, man? Like, this thing is the biggest disrespect in the world. I'm going to tell you an ill story, right? I'm at a show with Nellie. I think we was in Nashville, right?
Starting point is 01:00:55 And the next day was like the Grammys or something. And you asked me before the show, you say, yo, you're going to Grammys? I said, yeah, I'm going to Grammys tomorrow, this and this and that. He was like, yo, come with us. I show up, we go to the private airport, everything laid out, we go inside. This guy, he can really, he ain't scared of planes. He knocked out so fast.
Starting point is 01:01:20 That's my way of not being scared. Back in the time, it's just like, yo, just go to sleep. Whatever the home happens is going to happen. Yo, I can't go to my hands, bro. I cannot go to sleep. If I don't take a pill like I'm going overseas or something like that, I can't go to sleep. So what I'm trying to say is The plane lands
Starting point is 01:01:39 When it lands There's a Bentley A Rose Royce right outside With a driver Nellie gets out Goes down the stairs They open the door They close the door
Starting point is 01:01:48 And he leaves I said this motherfucker rich This boy You listen He ain't take a picture You know people get in the private They start yo the picture in the private Walk don't birthday parties in the private
Starting point is 01:02:02 This guy looked like He'd do this for breakfast. Like I see him go. I swear to God. No, no, I swear to God. He walked right in the Rose Royce in L.A. And he drove off.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And I was like, did I really fly over here with Nellie? That was my Rose Royce, but that was her Rose Royce. I mean, you know. Come on, bro. How are you doing, sis? You're real happy in life, huh? I'm amazing. I've been watching your interviews.
Starting point is 01:02:33 You've been hinting towards another. baby. Yeah. So you want another one. I definitely do. I love my son. How can we not have another one? The other one is going to be
Starting point is 01:02:44 not as nice as this one. Everybody says that. No, no. I'm just telling you the truth. Why? If one come like an angel, holy shit, that Hempstead, Long Island,
Starting point is 01:02:59 he's coming out like, yo! Oh my God, I didn't know that this thing is. Oh, I don't think so. You got the nice one off-rip. You, James?
Starting point is 01:03:08 Same thing? What? She think it's a game. When you got the baby of the year, the nicest one, you get the other one. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:18 he might throw some building blocks at you and shit like that. You know, you might get a girl. Now, the women. Yeah. The girl's the hardest thing. Like, I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:03:29 You know, um, you know what's crazy, man. Nah, I won't go there, Mama. But, Shout out to your sister. But, you know, my whole life I watched, Azzie and Lorena argue about from four, three years old outfits. I'm not wearing that.
Starting point is 01:03:47 That's not my style. That ain't my swag. To this day, they'd be like, I'd be like, yo, you know your mom's got swag. Like, she's trying to help you. I don't care, Dad, this ain't mine. It's what I want. I'm not, but that's what the girl give you.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah. I want a girl though balance it out I got my boy you know I want my little baby What if you get a boy Then we still
Starting point is 01:04:10 We're still out there working We may have to We may have to Shoot one more time I think now You may have to shoot one more time I'm not messing with God But I think now you can get like
Starting point is 01:04:22 The injection And pick if your baby Want blue eyes Like this shit Yeah like a builder man Baby You can build a baby Like a car right now
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah Like a builder man Yeah I'm telling you, I'll be seeing some people that have a baby and the baby. I've never even seen the girl pregnant. And then she got a baby. The baby got blue eyes. Yo, my baby's here.
Starting point is 01:04:43 You're like, yo, what the, like nobody got blue eyes in the family. Nobody. Not one family member. They got shit like that. But she says she wants another baby. We get many and she won't. As many nannies as we need. Can't chase toddlers at 50, man.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah, that's rough. Joe, that's a workout, Joe. A toddler? You work out every day, though. Thank you. No, not as much as I used to. I got to get back in there. But, I mean, I'm just saying she's learning now because he's active.
Starting point is 01:05:16 He's very active. For my little video footage, I've seen a nephew. He got a lot of energy. Yeah, he's picking them up and putting them down in a minute, too. He's trying to walk and all of that. Yes. He's getting close, so, and he's rough. Very rough.
Starting point is 01:05:32 He's rough, bro. Like, you ain't scared as shit. That's good. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can pick him up, throwing him up there. He's laughing on the way that. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea.
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Starting point is 01:06:47 know. It can't get no better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. A fully Black, fully queer. fully human, fully divine podcast that explore society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity. Listen to hella black, hella queer, hella Christian, to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look. I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice is given to me by God and I love it.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Books that validated our identity. The library now for me is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shells. and how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hela Queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on Musica Mexicana.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Whether you like Pezzo Pluma, Los Alarees del Barranco, Ariel Camacho or Ivan Cornejo when you gain your feels, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews. Pesso Pluma show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashioning and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica Mexicaa, the craziest controversies and chismes. I don't have nothing against Fuerza, I know, and I don't think JOP should be mad at me. Song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene. There is competition.
Starting point is 01:08:21 There is sides to this. There's Pesopluma, Double Pee, and there's JOPP, and there's JOP, free mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business, it's all competition. And, of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live Musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 01:09:43 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Let me ask you a question, right? And if you don't want to answer it, we don't answer it. Oh, we throw it. I'm just got to keep it real. No, I got to keep it real, right? Or throw it out.
Starting point is 01:10:11 You tell me, throw it out. Come on with it. We edit in it. When I see the stuff like saying lunatics suing you and shit like that. Yeah. How do you feel about that? I think for the most part, They had no...
Starting point is 01:10:27 This is a family show? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is talking about family. Have no problem. That's what I'm talking about family. No problem with answering this. I think people were misinformed. When we started the lunatics, first of all,
Starting point is 01:10:45 Murphy Lee was a year out of high school, very much stage. My brother Kiwan, and then once we got the deal, city spud went to jail, right? So me and the oldest one, we were the ones more engaged on the business side of things and how things were transpiring. I think everybody else was just happy to be there. So you know what it's like if you're in a group, you got some people that's going to the meeting, some people that's on the phone call, some people that are in those rooms when certain situations are being discussed and how they go. And you got other people that's
Starting point is 01:11:22 nah, I'll just leave that to y'all. Nah, I just lead that to y'all. I lead that to y'all. So when the thing came up of how everything got broken down in the beginning, we had a fucked up deal in the beginning. So the way things got spreaded out was that the oldest member of the group, the manager is his best friend, our business manager is his best friend,
Starting point is 01:11:48 and our role manager is his best friend. so they negotiated everything they put everything into perspectives and you see what I'm saying and I'm trying to because they still got other things but they were influencing the other ones so when the ones that did not know what happened found out what happened now you see us back on tour except for one because long story short the truth just need to be told and people needed to find out not just why it is
Starting point is 01:12:23 but how it is and when you found out how it was you understood they understood like why I've never seen nobody
Starting point is 01:12:31 keep it more real with their crew than you I want you to know if I'm sitting in New York and I see this shit it's like a sledge hammer
Starting point is 01:12:40 hit me and bust my head open like a fucking watermelon you know they say you don't know I'm telling you the truth no but they say you don't understand who you are with until you go through something negative.
Starting point is 01:12:52 That was our first time ever going through anything that wasn't positive. Because, you know, we were very, very fortunate, very, very blessed that when we first came out, we were rocket shipping. You know what I'm saying? So when it got to a point to where, okay, now everybody needs to, everybody's trying to pay attention to something they should have been paying attention to since day one. But here's the thing, bro, ever since this group been informed, I've always had the most money. From the time we came into this crew, I came into this crew with two cars, my own
Starting point is 01:13:21 apartment and everything else that was, you see what I'm saying? I've always paid my own way and other people's way to get through certain things. So I've never not paid attention to business. You know what I'm saying? Never not paid attention to business. You used to insist people pay attention to business. You used to ask people, you know what's going on? You know what these, you know, but like you said, when the money is coming in, nobody wants to say nothing, and then obviously they
Starting point is 01:13:50 look up on the day that the money is not what they think it should be, and then wonder why they don't have it like that. But we all go through trials, tribulations. You know what I mean? Harbour times in hip-hop. Yeah. You put that well, my brother. No, I appreciate it. I know. You can understand it. Because I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:14:06 You got to reflect. I'm I've been in this game 30 years. I've been around so many crews. We love the locks, because their brotherhood cannot be. They don't even know that. That's why they're together like this. You hear what I'm saying? The locks is, I think their whole dynamic to me is that they never let nobody break them up.
Starting point is 01:14:28 They together. I think that's what the streets love. So when I just evaluate the whole hip-hop game and I've been around everybody, I've never seen nobody keep it more real than you. And I love everybody, so I'm letting them know I'm not. But I've never seen nobody take care of their crew more than you. So it was shocking to me just, you know, sitting back, you know. And sometimes you don't know you can have that effect on somebody else.
Starting point is 01:14:52 No, I was just like, you know what I'm saying? No, but I've always, I've always thought that we used to the same thing. Or do she. You know, you know, that's your sister. You know, she's like, what the fuck? Yeah, I was pissed. I was like, you know, because she can read certain shit. Like, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I said he's the most generous person I've ever met when it came to that, the family and that group and the percentages. And I was like, you're giving out what? In the beginning coming off tour? We come off the Nelly tour. I split it down the middle. I take half and I give them half.
Starting point is 01:15:31 So if we come off a tour with $20 million, I take 10, the group get 10. Plus down 10. No, but the group get day 10 and go home. I take my 10. then I pay. Commissions, expenses.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I pay everything else. Everybody else get to go take their money and go and go sideways. You know what I mean? Like so, you know, betrayal, man.
Starting point is 01:15:53 You can't, you can't build the war high enough. That shit has jumped right over the war. That shit hurts. You know what? That might be. I think it's the only thing that might be closer similar
Starting point is 01:16:05 than worse than death. It hurts you that much. Yeah, because it's always from somebody who, that you love, that you love, that you trust at that time to show himself. You know what I'm saying? Because can't nobody you don't know or don't care about hurt you like that.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Right. You know what I'm saying? There's always somebody you know. They say it's the ones closest to you, but there's always somebody you know that can really, really hurt you. And then you'd be like, man, I'm just speaking about me. Now you know, I'm just saying how many times I'm not looked out for this person, how many times I gave him a chance,
Starting point is 01:16:38 How many times people told me, yo, don't have them around you? How many times this and this and that? And then you still went all out, and then they wind up doing the unimaginable. Firm believer, everything happens for a reason to a certain degree. And a lot of times what I had to tell, you know, I talked to my nephew, J.T., Jason Tatum, and shout out to J.T. You know, he had his injury. Get better.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, so, my brother. You know, but I was telling them, yo, don't look at it like that. This is for something. But here's the tricky part. It's not always in what you think it is. It may not be for music. You see what I'm saying? Like, what's happening to you here may be needing you to look somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:17:25 It may be time. Like, I was talking to JT. I said, yo, it may not be about basketball. I said, because you're him in basketball, it may be you need to spend this time with your son. It may be something you need to. spend this time with mom. You may need to go back home and do something. It may not have nothing to do with basketball. So when something affects you that deep, take a full 360 look at it. Take a full 360 look at everything that's going on around you because just because that's what
Starting point is 01:17:54 put the brakes on it don't mean that that's the problem. It just means that you needed to stop for something and you have to pay attention to what it is. But that's the only way you're going grow, period. Now, you can get mad, say fuck that that motherfucker wrong and keep going going to, but it's something else going to happen. I'm telling you, something else going happen because you never, you never fixed it. You got to get the lesson. Put a Band-Aid on the shit. You never fucking addressed it. You know what I mean? And not to bring it back full circle, but that's why I think me and her are sitting here to this day because it was always about a full circle look. It was never about, you know, does this person bring more positivity
Starting point is 01:18:33 than your life the negative. I don't give fuck who they are, Joe. I don't get fuck who they all kids. It could be your mama, your daddy, your auntie, your uncle. It can be your fucking kids. Does that person bring more positivity to your life than negative?
Starting point is 01:18:45 And if it's not, then you need to get the fuck away from them. And sometimes, like you said, family will be the first ones that are doing it to you. But your family should always bring more positivity than negative. It shouldn't even be close.
Starting point is 01:18:56 But if it is, then you know goddamn well. And anybody else around, man, just stay positive. Put them on. Put them on a t-shirt. Hell yeah. Jay to be talking some shit, bro. Put the boot on that motherfucker car.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Listen, guys, we love you guys, man. Thank you so much. We appreciate you. You know y'all out promo on the show. Yeah, you know, you not rewind in the time. You ain't getting on to this. Rewind the time, man, yeah. Kiss Cafe.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Look at this right here, this thing. This is that Tyson back there. Now, let's see, no grace. No, I don't want that. You know what I mean? I don't want that for you. I'm not. I don't want that for you.
Starting point is 01:19:37 But you see this claim? Listen, Tyson back for it. What's the numbers? We got change. We got change. We got why I look 53 when you could be 42. Why be 403 when you could be 32? Now, I'm going to tell you I never go against her.
Starting point is 01:19:55 And then her sis got a glam squad. Yeah. And she'd tell you she like you with that gray shit. She's lying, bro She's trying to keep you out of Straight hair That's cool I'm saying when
Starting point is 01:20:10 I mean Hopefully it never Hopefully it'll get you some I got I'm getting you I'm getting you If it ever If it ever comes to that
Starting point is 01:20:19 I got you I'm not knocking No I'm not knocking at all We got We got Caled I'm home known Joe He's trying to force it
Starting point is 01:20:29 You know Yo, I'm holding it. Give me a deal. I rewind a time. Make it all my favorite shoes. Jay and said, give me a lot of Rewind at time. That ain't this. That ain't this.
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