Joe and Jada - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Jim Jones on Nas, LL Cool J & hip hop idols, making rap money, raising kids

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome Harlem's own, Jim Jones, as the three hip hop legends discuss coming up in the game in New York. Jim discusses what he does to stay relevant as he ages and how he is involved in more than just making music. Next, Jim discusses his place in hip hop as Joe asks him about a comparison that was made on IG about Jim being like Nas, and what Jim thought about that. Jim discusses how legends Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, and LL Cool J influenced his style when he was coming up. The fellas then discuss the importance of how they raise their kids and what it means for them to be able to provide for their families and community. That and more on another episode of Joe and Jada. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My brother, Jim Jones, cap all status. You heard make some noise. What's up with everybody? Also, this is a PSA. We're not going to talk about my brother's styles and we're not going to talk about camp. One, I don't condone that shit and two, there's a lot more other beautiful shit going on in the world than to rile up some shit. There's another thing to talk about. Me and styles are actually brothers, two brothers that love each other.

You don't got to explain. I'll be wanting people to know that like you don't have to get into that because we already know what it is. And they're going to see soon enough, you know what I mean? Element of surprise is always beauty. You've been very hard working over the past few years, hooting out projects, working everywhere, doing tech work, doing all kind of shit. You're everywhere.

You're safe to say you've been very productive and very lit. What's your motivation to keep making music to stay, you know, Relevant. Buying B&Ws for your son and all. The money is always the motivation. I mean, hip-hop has gave me a life that I wouldn't want to trade for nothing else in the world. I mean, I have my ups and downs, but for the most part, this has been a hell of a ride, and I'm just enjoying it even more. But to stay in it, you've got to be real with yourself and realistic with it.

realistic with the output, because a lot of people try to do it, but they don't, I would say try to do it, there's a lot of people doing things, but for me is trying to be able to reinvent myself, the perseverance, staying current, not chasing a young generation, but finding a medium where we both could, where we both could benefit from. So there's a lot that comes with this journey in this past few years that I put myself on. lie to prove to myself that a lot of these things you see going on is things that I'm actually

proving to myself enough for no one else things that I know I could do things that I constantly tell myself to get up off your ass and get it done because you could do these things with your eyes closed and things like that

procrastination is a motherfucker and when you're at the top of your game and you discourage a little bit procrastination can hold you even more and I had to figure out how I had to learn how to be comfortable and uncomfortable situations and things like that

and you know there's no different from coming to where we came from and things like that. When our back was against the world, we figured out different ways to overcome that. And being in the game is no different. Look at Jim Jones. He's a hall worker. He's relentless.

He don't stop. You definitely got better, lyrically, over the years. Right? And so at what point you said, you're going to get nice and take the lyricism to another level

because we've been hearing it but we see your growth you know and also I feel like you got a million people on your back too like like I learned for so many artists from you

say a dice peso say all the other guys you know you ain't just pushing you you push you know tell me about that it's always my passion to help people And in music, that's been one of the things that I'm pretty good at. I got a great ear for music, a great eye for talent.

I know how to help them and curate them into a way that they have a fair chance of success. And that was one of the things that I always wanted to do, even when there was a time that I thought I was going to stop dual music when I had just moved to Miami for a couple years straight and just in a whole different zone. But even in Miami, I chose to help a whole bunch of artists out there, which I did Miami VIMS. And that's how people got to hear Zoe dollars

and shout out to my boy bald greasy and being money and all these, I mean. So it's something to have a knack for them. But it seems like the more that I give, it was the more that I got. You know what I mean? The more selfless I was, was the more that I was blessed even in my time

that I needed it the most. It was like I gave the people when I didn't have nothing at certain times. The story of Jim Jones is pretty much making something out of nothing. I don't want to make this a tradition but you're all from the Bronx and it just so happens

Joe Jado we're going to go get it we're going to claim my guys you know what I'm saying he from the BX now because it seems like everybody who come on ain't really from the BX and you're from the BX

you're from the BX I Hallam love you. You know what I'm saying? That's cool. You know what I'm saying? But he just went through this with another guess. I have to do it.

I've been both in the Bronx and Harlem. He said Rocky don't say he's from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx. I know this. I was really born in Harlem. My hospital was in Harlem. Okay, damn. I didn't know that.

My sister was born in Bronx, Lebanon, but I was born in a hospital. I'm born in Bronx, Lebanon. You're hurting my bribe right now saying you was born in Harlem. I mean, they bring from Flauford Avenue, they bring me the Weeks Avenue to Cotonna Park, to Cotona Park. I need them all lined up from the Bronx. No, I'm a Bronx kid. I'm a Bronx kid. I just, I'm a hybrid.

I was, I was, I, I, you know, Jay, I need them all lined up. I need all my chest pieces. I need, you know, the clips, they're from the Bronx. Then they move down to VA. I'm just telling you the truth. I got the best of both worlds, man. I got all, all the attributes from the Bronx. Bronx and everything from

Harlem. Like, I'm a rare breed. I understand. I'm a very aggressive rare breed. I'm a very aggressive hustler. You know what I mean? I got the best of both worlds. So I love it, man. Shouts to the BX. Shout to all my guys. You know, people used to, and I don't want to sound like a broken record, but people used to champion

a hustler, somebody who really wants to get money, want to go on another level, take their family on another level. They used to champion that. And I get it. you sit here and we say, yo, why are you pushing?

Why are you moving like you 20 years old and you won't stop and this? And you're like, yo, I'm trying to get this bread. Right? I'm the same way. We love hip-hop culture. We love everything. I'm trying to get this bread

to make sure we financially secure. You understand what I'm saying? Some people act like they're cool with being broke or something like that. So I know your motivation and I understand your answer. You know, you're just a true hustler from, if we wasn't rapping, we'd be selling whatever, juice. Who gives a fuck? We're trying to get money.

I'll pick up. I'll pick up. I love juice. I love juice. I love Kit Cafe. But what I'm trying to say is, I understand that about Jim Jones. The Jim Jones is hustler. He loves money. He loves the finer things in life. And I said something the other day, me and you talked about behind the scenes where people don't get it, right? So I said rap is work check to check. 100%. What does that mean to you that statement? Because me and you had that conversation out there. I mean, it's the same difference of the people that's coming up one or nine to five

and they gotta pay their bills. We gotta pay our bills too. The expenses that we acquire for having money is the same expense that you have at the end of the month. So we don't meet our quota. We don't pay for these big ass houses and these fly cars that we got there and they start taking them away the same as you. You don't make that money and pay that rent at the end of the month.

Then they start coming in with them notices and get you out the crib. There's no difference. There's no difference. and the risk is even higher for us because we've got so many things going on and shit like that and we start acquiring bills out of nowhere and pretty soon they're going as good

and sometimes they're going to get bad and then if you ain't prepared for that and able to hold up everything that users acquired, it disappears in a flash. You ever had to tell your wife? DefCon 4. Hope? That's when it gets to DefCon.

Break that down to be checking. I've been to death card before you heard. We, we, I'm pretty sure. sure we all three up here could attest when shit is going beautifully. And then it's like you said, there's a time when shit ain't going beautiful. And how do you persevere through them time? That builds character. Let me tell you something.

People in life, they always, and this ain't no shots of nobody, right? But people in life, let's say with me, I've been a situation where I'm doing fucked up. You know, better than your average guy, but I'm doing fucked up compared to how I do. And people find reasons to disattach themselves from you when you're going through the struggle and you're sitting on the couch by yourself trying to figure out how you're going to get up out this hole. You know, I had so-called friends find excuses. One of my friends had an argument of one of my friends. He was like, yo, Joe, I know that's more your man. then I am

you know you stay with your man's and I say to me I knew he used that opportunity thinking Joe fucked up Joe gonna need a dollar he's gonna ask me

let me you know and then you come back and you bigger than ever and them guys are like they missed the no I got a funny story let me hear Jim I gotta hear it

we don't talk about nobody but I'm just saying I got an example this got to be an education In your mind, when I was up, you come asking some help, cool. Go down. Nobody comes to help you. You hurt?

But he's up now while I'm down. You're hurt? And I'm, you know, I see him all the time. There ain't nothing. Now I'm back up. He's down. Guess what he's doing? Asking you for help?

No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Yo, Jim. Jim, I'm not doing it. I promise you on God. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm done with that.

I might be too old. Y'all might be younger to me to play that shit. I'm not playing. I'm just telling you how to the cycle. Like, yo, bro, this is the craziest shit ever to me, bro. I'm not doing it. Let me tell you, I got a story. Hold up.

Hold up. I got a story. I'm fucked up. They take all my money. I know y'all don't want to believe me. Accountant robbed me. Didn't pay my taxes. when the government come to me

he robbed me for $1.2 million he ain't pay I'm paying him to pay and showed the government the wires that I'm paying the account of them to pay my tax they know I gave him the money but they said you as the leader of your household

boom I go to court I paid him to 1.2 again paid the lawyer number 7,800 I forgot the number one guy cool fuck me put me a little jail time the point is I go first day to the studio. Yo, Jim Jones, I know your story too well. I go first day to the studio. Come out of jail.

You got these little niggas with purple hair, yellow hair, thinking what the OG's doing in the studio. They're really looking at us like, we're wasting our time. Don't know if you know that, right? So they're looking at me. We come up all the way up. Your Ram, come get on the song, it's all the way up. It spun one day that strip club and the Aces that was flying Queens.

They said, yo, we want to do that single release party. Bet, yo, ma'am, let's go. She's jail eight years.

I lose all my money. I might as well been in jail for 20. I don't do broke. Don't take this the wrong way. Take this encouraging. I don't do broke. I'm allergic to broke.

I'm a go get it if it's in the fucking Africa. 10 buck two Asia no rock on turn I'm going to get that dollar like don't worry about it and I'm not complaining

I don't do bro but one day the shit ring the next day it's a single release maybe two days after all the way up you knew when you heard

all the way up you knew when you heard it holy shit these guys hit one out the you know it off one spin they hit one out the park so we go to Aces

this is a two-day effect and this probably ball in the side like there's a two-day effect the club is on tilt the walls is sweaty out of control I get to my section and it's a hundred people

in my section and I'm sitting there like this and they're coming up yo God we did it again God we did it yo yo yo God you private jets again God yo yo yo yo they're coming right and I'm sitting there

and Remy's there Pistu's there rest of peace Percy was there so we rock I mean not even lean back yeah lean back did this

but just two days later how they understood every word I didn't know it was one of them right they turn the lights on we're walking out I'm walking out with a hundred motherfuckers

behind me I stop this is the same story you're breaking out I stop. I turned around. I sit your pistol. Percy,

I don't ever want to see these niggins in my life again. Yeah, shit. You! You! You! Yo!

Ever! Remedy! turn around and look at them and go you heard the guard we don't want to see y'all no more we walked out we never seen them again so you think after all the times

we put people on privates we take them on hotels you ward shows you eating states you eating lobsters we paying your bell we paying your rent we paying your this and this and that you guys disappear when the time get rough then you want to show up talking about we did it again I'm not, I swear to God.

I've forgiven people before. This time, it was over. Because I know I went to the bottom of the barrel. God forgives. I don't. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossiping.

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That's a way to live a longer life. Fitness and diet diet is just important as fitness. I had to learn that. I was just... Yeah, because I know you're like eating. I know you got to, like, you have cheat day with sweets. Yeah, and I had to stop all that. Actually, I was about to tell you,

like the doctor, like six months ago, the doctor told me I was pre-diabetic, so it wasn't really about how much I was working out. It was about how much sugar and bad foods I was eating and trying to use the excuses working out, even though I was looking good. The inside wasn't looking good, so I had to reverse the whole thing

and just cut out the sugars, cut out the cakes, cut out the ice cream, cut out everything that I really liked and shit like that and start eating real food and sticks it up to a lot of fruits and shit like that, and I feel a hundred times, but no doubt. Yo, when you cock, these are you doing put, nah, you're doing too much. Yeah, Jim, you're doing pushups in the snow with the dog on top of you, with a chain,

hanging off a shit with the arm. This shit is unbelievable. Like, I'm looking at this guy. I can be anywhere in the world. I'm looking at Jim Joseph, and he shows you how much you're not healthy. When I see this guy just zooming through the gym, you too, you big on it too. Jay, be in there. I'll be watching.

You're trying to pull a ball going here. I can't get... I'm just trying to be prepared for whatever come at me. That's it. You know what I mean? Like, I know I live a life that comes with a lot. And I gotta be ready to stand tall for whatever it comes at me. Let me ask you a question.

When we're done with that? When we, I feel like I'm done with that. Where anything coming at us, right? Like, I think we all prove, hold up. Let me just, let me say something. It can happen to you inside the Bach and Rock Hotel. I know. You see me in the airport.

I know. But what I'm saying to you, I know you didn't start with him. Okay, so that's, this is what I was the for. So if I wasn't on my team, the white man would have got the best of me, and niggas with my whole career would have half of my career been down.

Oh, the white man beat jim. That shit would have been the biggest thing in the media for years. Like, no, nigga, you should have act tough with the white man. Like, they would have been whiling me up, you heard? And I have to say white man, but he was white. I'm with you. I'm with you.

And I know he fucked with you because I know you well and I know your character. So I know he overfucked with you. You understand what I'm saying? He tormented you to the level of. I know about this. I opened the curtain. Roy Jones was waiting for me

beyond the curtain. Champion of the world. Ready to knock my block off. Okay? So I know about being alone. When I got shot, I had 30, 40 guys. I turned the corner.

Homeboy waiting for me alone. I'm telling you true story. I'm the king of getting caught turning that corner. That wasn't for you. what? With Roy Jones and been like, I'm just joking.

What happened when you're... Don't do that. Everybody know the Roy Jones. Don't do that to me. No, not the Roy Jones story. The Roy Jones. What happened when he was waiting for you with Dolom? Oh my...

He wasn't Dolo? He had... First of all, I had 150 guys. Let's be clear about that. It was uh... Jaru's... This is what I'm trying to tell you. You could be with 150

open the curtain when you dolo. These dudes over there. You know, they rap... I'm trying to tell y'all. We in New York. Jaru album released, New York is the biggest song. I just performed with you.

I spun around. I opened the curtain to walk to the back. Jim Jones is up the, Roy Jones is standing there with the devil in his eye. The niggas do what. No, you're not understanding. This is the champ of the world. I had to grab his wrist.

Be like, yo champ, yo. That was smart. I don't even know I was a good touch. No, no, no, no, no. I've avoided everything you could think of. I know how to do it. So I grab his wrist, and I'm pretty much begging him not to knock me out. Yo, champ, I know you're going to knock me out.

Yo, this, he had the guy. He had some guys with him. He had one of them. Yo, let me tell you, the way most people die is the guy in the back. Get him, champ. knock him out, champ. Yo! He's trying to put that battery to check, man.

I'm here. I'm the last person that's pussy. But I don't want to start arguing with him because I might agitate the chair. He might let his wrist go. So I'm trying to talk to him. I'm trying to talk to him like, I'm like, yo, champ,

yo, hip-hop, this, this, that. So the guy trying to gas him You know to hook off on me It happened to me one time They caught me over in a second They was trying to kill me It was about 30 guns and shit And one guy with bifocals

Kept trying to gas the niggas And yo just light him up Fuck that I'm pleading for my life Yo this we all Puerto Rican We can make this happen Don't worry about it My guys are chill They're ready to come

I'm over there trying to And it is a dude with biffica focus, give it to them now. Like, it's always, you can't go with them, with those guys. With the back team. Long story short is, once

the crew figured out, and I tell, I'll start feeling pussy, I let the champ go, I go, you're a champ. Like, I say, I'm going to be honest with you. No, no, he know the story, and I'm not to, I see your champ. You see those 150 guys, and they

over there, chilling, smoking, bloods, rapping the guns. I said, nobody's going to fight you. Those guys right there, they're with me. So he looked, he said it's hip-hop. He's not pussy for no one thing. Roy Jones can. I don't think anybody think Roy Jones is anything. No, Roy Jones came to pack me up.

The point is, what he said, you got to be ready for it. I'm just talking about in general. I don't know if a nigga ready for that. Roy Jones, though. We got to jump. We got to jump this shit out. This nigga quick. Oh, no, you got 150 to try.

It's like 100 men against him. But it's just the one second that's going to take for him to push him. Oh, no, no, no. To him to punch you three times in your face. That one second, I was trying to tell you massive blows. Let me ask you something. You thought I didn't know that? His hand is like a switch.

One punch you would have me like four punch that. You thought I wasn't telling him to where that shit coming from. Yo. You think a nigga snuffed you for the back. This is on it. You're going to rock your shit. Now, Joe tried to say there's no such thing as dressing your hands. age you as being

known as one of the freshest I don't think there's a thing is just in your age I think there's a thing is dressing your wage I just wage appropriate not age appropriate explain that for the people that I understand the difference between age and wage

shit you don't know the difference between age and wage and you're out the loop that's pretty simple I mean but for the most part I just how I feel man when it comes to fashion as well It's all about who you are, man. It's all about your personality. What makes you feel good? What makes you feel confident?

What makes you feel fly? And that's all I've been doing. I haven't been doing anything too special. I got a different aesthetic than most people and things like that. And it kind of connected to the masses and things like that. But I haven't done nothing different than what I've seen outside on the street corners from the hustlers and bits and pieces from television. And I get my style from so many different array of different things.

things, you know what I mean, from past things that I've seen even to now. I mean, it's all how I feel in the day and things like that. People get caught up in thinking that fashion or having style has to do with a name brand when it really doesn't. It's all about you, you're the name brand and how you put that shit on.

This is because it has a name brand, don't mean, that shit is looking good when you got it on. That's what I'd be trying to tell people with things like that. I mean, like, shit, I buy some shit from Walmart and probably look better than you and you got some shit on from Louis and shit like that.

It's all about who rocking. Take a shot at my Louis hoodie? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it's Louis down right now. Let me explain to you, man. Well, this is the flyest. This podcast, I don't know if you've been tuned there, but. He's starting more shit.

We just got a couple of friends and he's making us lose him and a kid. All right, we throw that shit on, daily. That's it. Okay. When can I get it? you to rewind the time. Will you ever rewind the time? No, I'm not that type of person. You just won't?

No, I'm just not that type of person. I mean, I put a lot of work in to be here this long to see these grays. God bless my uncle Clint, he used to have a face full of grays in a bed. He was pretty much the reason why I grew my bed when I was coming out. The bed was always fly. And I watched his bed go from black to gray and it was silver. And he always kept that thing line up. It was just dope. And I'm like, man, he respected it. his age and respected the work he put in. He was like, I ain't with no dying. I'm not doing none of that. And I kind of- Do I do it effectively and I love it. No, you look good. Listen to me, you look good.

I don't knock nobody for what everybody. Everybody got to do what they got to do. 100%. Everybody got to do what they got to do. It's a beautiful business endeavor you got going on. You know what I mean? Like, I cannot knock that. I don't think everybody can we want.

Everybody, everybody. Yeah, but you see, somebody like this is a perfect transformation. I should have caught him on Father's Day and told him, yo, can I please come with the barber rewind this. This guy won't rewind the time. That's the guy I got to convince to rewind the time.

I'm like an old-school lumberjack type of dude. That's my type of vibe. You know what I mean? Like, I don't put too much on it. Family. You're a hero. You're a hero. You're a hero.

To your family. You provide. You provide passion. I know you got a big family, sisters, moms, and I don't want to speak out of place, but I feel like you, like me, you take care of everybody. Yeah, I take care of everybody in my family. Everybody, everybody, take care of the bills, everything.

You know what I mean? It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. No, you do, every, you just got moms and pops a new spot. I'll be watching. He got his baby. He got his baby. Yeah, but I'm talking about this guy carried his sisters, everybody on...

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He learned how to wear the BB Simon belt for. from you, he got his swag. Like, how crazy is that? Because in my era, you know what I'm saying? Nas is like a god. In my era, too. So to be compared to the young kid. Let me get, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let's, let's

break this down. I admire Nas, but remember, Nas first record, the barbrew came out when I was in 11th grade. Yes. So, Nas was my idol when I was young. young. Like you did, came to dressing, the world play, the music, everything. I was a superior Nause fan. Period. I'd never take that away from him. But then as I got in the game, you got to realize that the rivals would be idols and not to take anything away from that.

I developed my own style in my own lane that these kids start to gravitate towards two, the same way I gravitated towards Nause when I was younger and things like that. It's a whole different, whole different generation. We're talking about 94, 93, I was in the 11th grade. It's 2025. There's a big gap there, you know what I mean? And I want people to understand that so when Shorty's telling people that, yeah, he's 20-some years old. That goes to show they're part of the era that he's in that. I came in into light and started going crazy that these kids love me.

They don't really know who Naz is. If he's 22, he's born in 03. Not all of them, some of them, though. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of them don't. Yes. It's the album music. There's some kids that...

No, I love that for you. There's some kids that love hip-hop. But their kid, he's your son. He's your son. He's your son. No, but he knows. My son can't tell you one Nile's record. You heard?

Like, let's not, let's keep it a buck here. Yeah, but let's keep it a buck. You heard, let's keep it a buck because you'll bring it up. There must be some type of misconception or, uh, What's that word of when it comes to Jim Jones and what Jim Jones have done in this game. A lot of these rappers... Who made them take the darkies off?

A lot of these rappers have done a tremendous job and I take nothing away from them there. But they forget, I got a hell of a catalog. Me, Jim Jones, myself, gold records, platinum records, gold albums, platinum, I know, me Jim Jones. No diplomats, no nobody else. Me, Jim Jones, check mine track record. Then check everybody else track record.

Then go to the billboards and check the billboards and check all my entries and check all them niggas entries and shit like that and I'm not taking nothing away from nobody but I hear the comparisons and the niggas be trying to act funny when it comes.

No, I've been spanking a lot of this shit I'm talking about the industry. I've been putting on. So let's not get into that where we're getting into numbers and I got to show you the statistics of what I've done. You heard to what other people was done.

You heard them you want to go to the billboard entries pull up Nye's billboard entries and pull up my billboard entries. Listen, we can't prepare to what I'm trying to tell you. No, no. I want to go there

I want to go down the line now because now we're going down the line No He's a rapper and I'm a rapper Listen you all No no no let's go statistically It feels great No but I want to go statistically

Because when people be like I feel the same way We all feel the same way And forget about the numbers You heard my numbers Let me step up to the forefront Us and the music Of hip hop culture

Have a problem Is it is a thing and there's nothing the world goes off numbers but in hip-hop we don't pay enough homage to those before us the correct way

and sometimes it's even myself so it gets no other genre of music fucking I don't even know who to use yeah but you can understand hip-hop is like basketball jelly-roll's never going to say that about

hip-hip-migrall John Moran, get on a call with LeBron. He's going to kill LeBron. So this is what this is about. Any song, any of that shit is murderous death game. This is what this is about. There's nothing that there's never, it's me. Putting me up against anybody, I'm taking me every time.

Every time. Okay. In all categories. In every category, I get busy. You started off saying you grew up watching Nause. Of course, I didn't take that away from him. The only situation I'm saying now to you, right? There is no situation.

I always tell people that story. Kids should worship you. You fucking started. No, no, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing. I did not know who's going to be mad at you. No. He's going to be mad at you.

Not me. I don't know him. Oh, he's a beautiful guy. I understand. I know he's a beautiful guy. But he's a beautiful guy. I'm not mad at me. I'm not going to bring my name up in that conversation, bro.

Like, come on. He just asked him about shit. When he did all the time, something he saw the internet. You're not going to mention him next to nobody. I'm not going to talk my shit. You didn't have to do that. pop minds every time, you heard?

Can we know, I just told the people. You're not doing nothing of that. And what did he do? You heard? Listen. Niggas don't even know about the audio. Can we talk? Can we talk about, all right.

I love this interview, although it was very painful, he was at a tough time. When I seen you, I don't forget where it was at. If it was hot 97 or something, where you were just saying, yo, you're a family, man. You never made no excuses.

Even when you went through tough times, you know, you took care of your family. They never knew you was going through tough times. I applaud you with that interview. I feel like that's one of them classic interviews that stands out to me in hip-hop music. Do you feel like after that interview now, do you feel like that's what you was talking about?

Like, I'm going to fight my way back to the top and I feel good right now about where I'm at in the world because I love that interview. Well, the interview was just a test of the way I was at the time and the things that I knew I had to do in order for me to progress. You think he brought the temperature back down. I mean, you know, I wouldn't have that shit.

You know, I got this shit off and on, you heard? I got different characters I got to play. We talk about the sport and I'm going to go, you heard, you talk about some stuff about it. Let's talk about that interview and the passion you have behind that. I still got the same passion. as you can see. You heard? I'm a passionate brother. I wear my heart

on my sleeve. I cry a lot of shit like that. I'm very emotional. So when people talk about me, I got to stand up for me because nobody else is going to stand up for me as you see. I fight all my battles on my own. I take losses and I take my wins the same way. You heard? The same smirk, just like this. Yeah, let's get this correct.

And the media stressed this shit so many different ways when they see me get excited. I get excited because I'm like, very passionate person. Everybody knows this. And as a man, when you talk about me, I'm always going to pick me first. But as a fan, she, I one of the biggest fans of Nas, I know one of his albums, word for word, back and forth. Like, that was my era when I was first coming outside and things like that. Nause had wrote the playbook for how we was running the streets and things that he also dressed the way we was running the streets back then and things like that. And not to take him out and away from all of niggas, but Nas had a hold on us and

shit like that when he was younger and things like that, the same way Park had a hold on us. But for New York City, he came with a whole different flavor and different cana's at the time that was well needed. It switched from what we heard in Big Daddy Kane to a whole never way of hustlers was talking and ramen and things like that. And everybody understood that. Like, you know, he would, like, I can never take away

anything that he's done in the game. I can't, you're hurt. And that's not it. But as a competitive man, that's all I'm doing is popping my shit and this is what hip-hop is about. But for the most part, I got no problem with Nile's house to Nile's house to all of them guys. Whose most influenced you now that you did you said that

from going up? artists who's been some you can even to this day who's most who name some of the some of the most that I love their music or whatever yeah whatever Raqam definitely Nas big daddy caris one no cool G who G I'm going down the line now you do you I'm going down a lot you're gonna make you go but that's good shit no you know I mean like you like you you want to do you you want to do you You're one of the few people that persevered from the Cool G era to now. Like, that's, you dig, like, you dig.

Like, you got to always remember that. I don't know if you ever sit down and think about that. Like, yo, we've been watching you for a long time and things like that. LL, Luster, Fat Joe. Who else? Got a lot of. It's a lot of. It's a lot of.

I'm a hip-hop. I'm a hip-hop. I'm a hip-hop. I used to watch Ralph McDaniels every day after school. I wanted to see every bit of videos, everything. I want to see all. of that. You heard like, I'm, I knew everything about that. You heard like. That was still the fat back TV. Yeah, you had, you had to fix the back and it was

13, you had to turn to 13, you had to turn to 13. You 31. Yeah, you put it on 13. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't know about that. They don't know about that. That's Kaliko vision days. Tell me some of the things you're doing right now, some of the things. Look, it's your turn it to, you're a journalist. No, I'm not talking. I just, I actually, I'm kind of excited. I just brought a major facility in the Bronx where I'm doing an incredible content space and I'm opening the doors to some incredible content creators

and influences and streamers and gamers and things like that. It's also my office in there. It's a bit of a headquarters. I'll be setting up the drip report news newsroom and there and things like that. I like that. I ain't seen one in a while. Yeah, I'm about to get that.

With the leg doing all this shit. I'm going to do everything myself now. It's a beautiful thing. So, you know, I'm, I'm being running a lot of TV shows out of there. Got, like, two podcasts set up in there, studio. It's a beautiful thing, you know what I mean? So that's one of the things that I'm excited that I've been working on. You know, the music is out right now.

The album is doing pretty good. Thank you for everybody that's been supporting the album at the church steps. Shouts all my artists have been supporting me. Shows with a dice piece. The movie. The movie's about the job. The movie will be out in the summer. Yo, the movie.

I wanted to be in the movie. I just ain't know how to tell you. I ain't going to lie. I got two days of reshoot. I'm doing it. I want to do it. Let me catch you. Make me a priest.

Oh, you heard of him? No, I'm in. Yo, I'm in. I want to be in the movie. I believe in your creativity. I believe in your drive. And when I seen you shooting the movie, I didn't know how to tell you,

yo, Jim, give me a little five minutes of fame. I want to be a little pastor. I want to be a school. I'm so bad. I didn't catch you on Diva because I broke. Godfather of Harlem, how you? You've seen Slim Loo up in that shit. You know I say Frank Lucas' life in that shit right there.

I told him to hold up one second. That Slim Loo. She was about to blow up in this shit. I distracted him called blew up. You know what I'm saying? But this movie, tell us about this movie. I love when you do that. I love everything you're saying right now,

how you take matters into your own hands. I always get upset. When I look at my career, because, you know, I discover Big Pund, Rebbe Ma, DJ Callet, Koolandre, I could tell you who I discovered the one person I fumbled a bag with was Tony Sunshine. And he was incredible ahead of his time. And I kept waiting for the record label to do it. And now we know how to do it ourselves. And if this was years back, I would have been able to blow him up because we know what we're doing now.

So I love that you said you create movies in your studio space, podcast this. I love that you taking matters into your own hand to push the future forward. That's a commendable thing right there. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we got to do something for looking at these juncts is making money off these streams and all these things. And, you know, as businessmen, we've got to learn how to diversify.

These is the direction that hip-hop and entertainment is going. So we got to be on top of everything. So I need a piece of that, too. That's how I'm thinking. That's how I think across the board. Like, I'm not trying to get left in what was going on yesterday. I'm trying to be on what's going on tomorrow. And I know tomorrow never come.

That's all you got to be prepared for. You know what I'm talking about. I feel the same way. You're talking to, you preach it to the converted. You know what I'm saying? We're blessed, man. How about y'all? So I can say I honestly known both for you all since 97.

I'll say it's just 97 and watch the both of you just go crazy in the game from a fan perspective before I actually got to be in it and shit like that and then seeing y'all just make so much money

and just going I remember watching you on MTV you had like the drop-top Bentley black shit I believe it was and I was just like an aw like I gotta get this bag I don't know what the fuck is this fuck is going on

and then Jada the me just always come to Harlem they'd be with D they got all time type of cars on two-fifth and shit like that. I'm like, oh, man, what the fuck, so how does it feel to know that you lived a life like this for so long? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, would you trade it? No, not at all. Would you do it all over again? Would you change something? I do it all over the same, if I could do it all over, I would just probably listen a little more and fixed a little bit of, you know, situations like Crack said, I had accounting situations

where, you know, they put lean on the accounts and shit fucked up. I mean, so a little shit like that. But it was also learning lessons to never let it happen again, and, you know what I mean, and get shit straight as you get older. But, yeah, I would have did a little more lesson than listening and paid a little more attention to the business aspect of it at a young age instead of just being wearing about verses and rhymes. and, you know, the wrong shit.

Other than that, I would have did everything exactly the same. What about you? You know, my favorite record right now is, it's not enough. It's not enough. Like, I hear this shit, like when I hear it's not enough,

I hear a different way. They got guns, but it's not enough. They got dudes. It's not enough. Like, I really, that shit is cemented in my brain, right? And when you ask me, I say to yourself,

It's not enough. And when you talk about finances, it's not enough. Success is not enough. Everything's not enough. I'm not fulfilled. My cup is not full. I don't feel cool, and I'm going to be a man about this, that I came in the same game with guys,

and they got to the billy, and I didn't get to the billy. And just like he said, I fucked up. I was in the club seven days a week. 30 dudes, buying 50 bottles every day, 50 steaks, Jimmy's Bronx Cafe, all I wasted a lot of time. So when you ask me, sure, I'm grateful. Sure, I'm thankful to God that I'm in the position that we are. And people might look at it as like, yo, he's successful.

It's not enough. And so I know you could relate to this because you're saying the same shit. I'm saying in a different way. It's not enough. Like I want, and I'm not lying. guys. So maybe y'all can understand me a little bit more because people get a little mad at me because they think I brag and I think a big shit. That's who I am, right? And so I want to be the fat guy painted in the picture 100 years from now and great-grandchildren to be like,

we're here because of fat Joseph Carter, Giner, 100 years ago, this man made a billion dollars and left the tusks in the truss, and we're still eating off this guy. I swear to God, that's what I want. And if everybody could do it, they do it. So it ain't attainable. I just realized I could have did it. But I was bullshitting a lot.

So now when you see me, I'm on my business ventures on another level. Just all my shit is like, and life is life. You know, I'm projected to win. I'm telling you I'm projected to win. Everything I'm telling you, I'm projected to go there. Like, I'm on that. Like, I know, you know what I'm saying?

I'm like, you know, with a football player, hang on to the back of the jersey trying to, I'm on the back of the jersey. I got so many arrows pointed the right way when it got to happen. I want to know what it feel like when that level of success happens, where you could turn around and be like, that's it. I guess we all have a different painting of success. I feel like my mistake was I depended on people to do things that I knew I knew how to do on my own. That's from accounting to engineering, to marketing, to doing videos, to doing movies.

I didn't, I learned that 20 years later, like, yo, bro, all that shit you let people do and they fail for you and shit like that, you're going to do it on your own and been up. You're cool. But being up is one thing. Making a billion dollars is another thing. Yeah, we all would love to make a billion dollars from my perspective. Money doesn't move me like people do. You know what I mean?

So maybe I might not leave money here for generations to come, but I will leave a blueprint of what it would take for you to get to a bag. And I do know that my whole family and my bloodline going, no, this nigger was a dog.

And if you follow what he did, God bless you, because you're going to go somewhere that you didn't know you could go. You know, and I think for me, that's worth more than any money that I could leave. And God bless me, I hope I leave all the money in the world.

But I think that blueprint will be strong enough for my son to take with him and go crazy. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF, and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on

corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get no better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees.

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The library now for me is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shells. And how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution.

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We got that, we got, my son is right outside. We got that where it's safe for me to say we grew up with not much. And then we want to make things better for our kids. And historically when you look at successful people that come from nothing, because we protected our kids so much, they're not hustlers like us, or would want them to be hustlers. Do you find that in hip-hop? Do you find that or, you know, that's how I look at it.

Just with everybody, I mean billionaires. I mean people who make money. You're absolutely right. But if you have a son, your son, vicariously, you're going to grow into who you are. So if your son knows you to be a hustler, guess what's going to happen for your son when his back is against the wall?

And daddy ain't around no more. Everything he's seen daddy doing, daddy teaching me going to start to instill. He's not gonna sit there to be like a chum. You heard, like, I watch my son closely and just his manner, how he move and things like that. And the rebel in him that he shows me and shit, like the only shows that he's trying to show me,

bro, I'm about to get on my shit. I mean, like the things, some of the things that he do, like these kids ain't no chumps just because we raised them right, just because we covered them up, just because we wanted to have a better life of them, doesn't mean that they don't have the hustle in them. They just have better chances and better odds at doing something way different

than we ever had a chance to do. I agree. I love that answer, you know. I ain't going to lie to you. I love that answer because we just want what's best for our kids. We want them to step up to the occasion. And I just think, like, parenting, by parenting ain't easy. Every kid is different.

Takes a village, man. And they don't give us no instructions for parents. No fucking, that's what I'm trying to give them now. If you don't know where I've been going this whole interview, is I've been going about family and fighting through shit and going through this. This whole infamy, that's what I see in you. I see passion.

I see drive. I see relentlessness. I see you working for your family. I see working for your team. You're putting guys on while you still trying to get to where you go. And that's the thing. See, this game smoking mirrors. I don't want nobody to watch what I say, watch what I do.

Is in the midst of me talking shit, I'm still getting up getting to the bag, I'm still working, I'm still going to the office, I'm still making sure everything has to be done under my rule for me to live and be successful about him. You know what I mean? Like, never forget that bottom line. I'm still doing all the things I need to do

in the midst of the circus that you see going on. You know what I mean? And they see it. You know what I'm saying? What I'm trying to tell you is if I see it, they see it. But that's for anybody. Like a nigger told me one day, even if you don't got a job.

You get up, you get up, that's my mind. You get up and go outside and act as if you got a job. Don't stay in no house. Go outside and housewood. Go outside and find some. Go outside and do something, bro. Get your ass up. Man, I come from my father.

My father was an immigrant from Cuba. My father was a master baker. He had an argument with his boss. He was 13 years in the bakery. He had an argument with his boss. He thought he couldn't get fired. He got fired. The next day, we went with money he had saved up.

Say like a G, this was a long time ago, and we went and bought toys in 23rd Street and Broadway, brought it up to where my store's at. That's why I got my first up-in-YC store in 158 at Broadway and was selling toys and snowstorms, hustling little motorcycles and baseball bats and shit for double the money. That's where I learned to be an entrepreneur. When the summer came, my father was the old man you saw with the icy.

He made no excuses. that's why I don't make excuses we just got better situations at getting to where we're getting and thank God for hip hop that the music you see you still you still

you still a MC meaning like you still are on that I was like that for a very long time till I said to myself I said like this for a long time I lived off of shows and I be like yo I got two three shows

this month this is one and then I realized when shit gets slow I got to diversify and find other ways to get money you understand what I'm saying so I was

so then I had to learn how to make businesses and do shit like that to this you just said what you said nigga told me nigga stop worrying about how to make money and learn how to make business

because you make business that's going to make the money for you you said it I had to learn that bro because I wasn't fucking making music off of money off of music for a long time I'm like, bro, I had to figure out how to make business to make myself some money

and still sustain this lifestyle. Because at the end of the day, it's all about sustainability, you know, this lifestyle. No matter how you look at it, we're etched in stone of who you are. They don't understand. I'm going to play that I'm older than you thing right here. Well, that always plays a part. It's 30 years of sustainability, your niggies is on. What I'm trying to tell you is that we know guys.

especially us three, and we salute the guys. Because I salute a guy I knew who was getting money in 88 and be like, yo, such and such. Like, I'll salute them. Like, I'll never, I never look at people. My lenses never look at people at their down moment. I always remember when they was on top or when they inspired me or they was rocking. But a lot of the guys that I grew up with or I knew had runs and that's over now. And I'm not mad at them if they got a legit job and they're moving on with life or whatever.

I salute them. But you know how hard it is to be fly for 30 years to walk into the casket fly. You got to walk into the casket fly. Joe, how you walk into the casket? Well, you don't walk into the casket, but the point you get what I'm saying. No, that's hard. It's like you, yo, don't talk about the old dudes that had it be the same. old dudes the Raddit.

That's a fact. You know how crazy that line hits me. That's a fact. Every time I hear that song and you say that line, and they ain't even got to be the purpose. Don't even got to be about Rattit. It's just about so many guys have runs. And then they start talking about,

yo, I used to be this. I used to be that. Yo, I used to have this. Cool. I'm not mad that I used to, but don't make it seem like they used to is relevant now. I'm with a good. I'm with a good, I'm with a good glory story.

You heard? I'm with that. I love all the old hustler stories, but some old hustlers carry it the wrong way. You know, there's no disrespect. I'm looking at YouTube. Some of them got an AARP card

talking that shit. No teeth. Still talking that shit. I'm like, yo, bro, you can't hold a smack 2025. And you ain't carrying it right. So you should be home. Don't even mention it because what you talk about and how you're looking

is not reflecting of what we're doing out here. You know what I mean? And not taking nothing away from you. You can tell your story and be humble about it. But if you're not looking apart to get into the bag, your story means nothing in the eyes of people that's really doing it and you're trying to prove a point. And we're not talking down to you, but come on.

You're like, we love you and we big you up. And we probably the only guys that are pull a car over and be like, oh, oh, homie this and this and that. But then it's like, cool. If you ain't got that run no more, you get yourself a job, You take care of your family. You're going to salute you the same way. Don't miss the niggas I respect the most.

Don't talk. I know a bunch of old hustlers that used to get money that got good jobs right now. When I see them, I still praise them the same way. I praised them when I was younger. I'm the same way. You heard? So we're preaching the same thing. You did?

But there's a few of them. They're out of control. They're missing me. We need to have a conversation. No, Jim, they're out of control. And so you're looking at them and you're like, y'all talking about, like, I keep, I, I don't think I sluck good last night. You know what it is?

Like, I've been feeling like they got to say some type of, yo, but. Entitement vicariously through the hustler, fake rule that they had. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, like, this year, like, your bro. And they're forever old because what they did back then. Oh, bro, what are you talking about, bro? I don't even know you, bro. I don't even know you, bro.

I'm sitting. I'm sitting. Here go to Fat Joe with the hoodie. Right? once again we've got a hundred guys outside you keep a hundred no no always

always back in the day right I walk in the bathroom it's a codizu Spanish tool diesel out of this like he looked like he ate a refiguate you know the man came home just now

it's got the bathroom got a long mirror right and the man sees me and he goes by the way I've never been extorted in my life I don't understand it

you gotta kill me it just doesn't exist in my DNA the man looks at me and says 10 years 10 years now you know

you think you know these people some 10 years 10 years I did 10 so I'm looking at the mirror I'm taking the piss somebody got the pay it's 10 years

so I'm like No, I'm listening It really happened Like I'm being honest So I'm like he's 10 years So I'm thinking he thinks I got him in trouble For 10 years

And so I'm trying to hear him out Ten years I've been reading the magazines I've been hearing you talking this shit Straight up He told me just like that We're talking off the minute Hearing you talking this shit

I come home everybody's saying Don't fuck with fat Joe This this dad this he said I don't I don't believe it. I had a hundred guys outside that door. I said, I don't believe it. And you're gonna do this a hard way or the nice way.

Somebody got to pay for my 10 years. So, of course for me, I'm looking in the mirror and I'm like, finally, a nigger tries me. Finally! I'm human. I'm looking at the mirror.

I'm like this. Now, it's one thing to disrespect fat Joe. But we're in the bathroom and the toilet. Hold on. What Joe was this? Was this a dead Joe? Big Joe. They're all outside.

But listen to what I'm saying. The door opens. The door to somebody taking this shit. And it's my brother, Serge. And Serge is like, these guys, they can't take you violating Fat Joe. on no like he can't breathe he's like crawling

on this it's in the middle I see him I'm like he's like ha like they're talking to Joe like this he's grabbing the wall like he can't believe

he's hyperventilated he cannot believe this right man we put the beats on this guy so legend not a hundred just us to. He drank piss water

and everything. And I got to salute the man because he never, I never heard of him again. I never seen him again. But... Dr. Anka live. Y'all Puerto Rican niggas was

putting beats on niggas back in the day. From the fever on up, I've been outside somewhere like 94, 93. Uh, y'all diggers been rubber... I'm talking about Bro, God bless Big Pum, bro.

I've seen Puntish so many niggas, bro. Like, so many, I seen Punt take his chain off in the tunnel and punish. Your punish, you, punish, like, no pun intended, but pun intended, punish niggas. Like, yo, bro, big pun, was, yo, bro, y'all, y'all was some wild Puerto Ricans, bro. I cannot lie, bro. Just looking at the history of this, what, yo. Listen, man, pun had this thing called nose to the brain. I swear to God, he had this thing.

I'll tell you a quick one, but you know, you know, I'm like the biggest liar on the Internet now. They call me the Cap King, right? I used to play softball. This is an ill story. I used to play softball in my block. So this dude walk back, you know, I'm from the plot. I'm from them projects my whole life. I don't care if I'm Fat Joe, the rapper.

Somebody who grew up with me, they might talk funny to me. You'll be like, yo, what the fuck they talk? Like, you know, we know each other. officer's kindergarten. You ain't shit, bullshit, pitcher. He's going crazy. He's a dude I grew up with, right? Fuck you, suck my...

You know, we're doing all that. So Pund was my number one fan. When I played softball, pun sit in the dugout every game. He would watch every game, right? So Pund started talking to him. Yo, what's up? Stupid, this stuff. They arguing.

So you know, the city park, they got the city park, they got the gates. I watched Pund Batem to come close enough and he punched him through the gate.

Bam! And knocked them out they had to bring the ambulance through the gate. I'm talking about the hand didn't go through the gate

but you know what I'm saying? He got close to know. Pushed the gate. He punched the gate and knocked him out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Through the, boom.

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