Joe and Jada - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Drake vs Kendrick beef, comeback Knicks, Met Gala reaction
Episode Date: May 8, 2025Your new favorite duo is finally here, Fat Joe and Jadakiss, with the first episode of “Joe and Jada.” The guys talk about the New York Knicks DOMINATING in the NBA playoffs against the Bo...ston Celtics. Then they hit all the craziness around the Met Gala, from why Timothee Chalamet skipped the event to Rhianna showing off her baby bump with A$AP Rocky. Then Fat Joe explains why many NFL teams were WRONG to let Shedeur Sanders drop in the NFL Draft to the Cleveland Browns, and how Aaron Rodgers has pulled off one of the biggest ROBBERIES in NFL history. Then Joe and Jada reflect back on the Kendrick Lamar vs Drake beef as the "Discrepancy" marks its one-year anniversary, and then discuss famous (and infamous) hip-hop beefs and what they mean to music and culture. This and so much more, so pull up and enjoy the show. 0:39 - Intro1:24 - Knicks Game 1 reaction10:33 - Is Jokic the MVP?16:00 - Met Gala reaction22:43 - Shedeur Sanders Draft slide26:45 - Aaron Rodgers biggest football robbery28:06 - What will make the Joe & Jada podcast different?30:23 - Complex names Ashanti and Ja Rule best Rap/RB Duo32:36 - 1 year anniversary of Kendrick Drake beef36:11 - Outkast and Salt-N-Pepa Rock and Roll HOF38:57 - Greatest NY Hip Hop album debate40:36 - Joe's favorite hip-hop album41:49 - 50 Cent at the Grammys45:57 - Trump said Stephen A should run for president48:25 - Train is coming now #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is what I felt like today when I woke up.
Look, love.
Remember this shit?
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We're about to light them up out there.
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Yeah, I remember.
I had a lot of good memories with Boost Mobile, right?
You know, Boost Mobile was in the game.
Presented by Boost Mobile, I did a commercial for them crazy years ago, man.
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Hey, yo, we hear Joe and Jay the show.
We got to go right to it, the Knicks last night.
This is our first show, Knicks last night.
What did you take from that?
What was you thinking?
Where was you at?
What was the vibe?
I was in a stoop, for one, working on a feature of many
that I got to do for people.
Do you play the volume in the studio
Like you hear them talk
Or you just
I leave it
I leave it
But it was so crazy
It was like it was
It was you know
Yeah I'm telling the engineer
Look he's trying to mix
Adler
Look they tied it off
It's cool
So yeah
No you know what I mean
They get
They get one in Boston
When everybody doubted us
We was nine and a half
Point underdogs
and then going there and, you know, pull one off, pause was incredible.
What I took from last night, the main thing that stood out to me.
We played together.
It was a team effort.
You know what I mean?
Finally.
Finally.
Finally, McKell Bridges earned that contract.
I was not convinced this whole season.
I told everybody, man.
Four number one picks.
Uh-huh.
This, this, that.
When we eventually won the game, it dawned the play.
puny and said, oh, this is what he, did you see his impact? Did you see his impact? Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
But what I'm trying to tell you is I didn't see it the whole season. I don't know if he tries to
play shy. I don't know if he just comes when he wants to light him up, light him up.
Lord, it is a such thing as playoff Jimmy. He's turned it to a different McHale bridge is in the playoffs.
No, but that's what we need it. What I'm saying is we pay these guys.
The winning championship.
Not just him, we pay the people who picked these guys.
So I wasn't happy with how they recruited them to be honest with you.
And last night when it all was set and done, I said, yo, these guys, because you're thinking, the whole thing you're thinking, the chance is Boston.
Let's not get it confused.
They're the chance.
They got a whole lot of Jason Tatum, a whole lot of Jalen Brown.
They got a whole lot of, even Al Hartford is 100 years old and he still be disrespectful.
I ain't going to call my husband.
No, I'm just saying I'm older than him, but I'm just letting you, he's an OG in the game.
But what I'm saying to you is every team on the offseason is trying to compete against that team.
That's the championship team.
So when you're looking at the team at the start of the game and everybody's saying it's impossible for us to win,
eventually we win the first game, I realize what I recruiting, you know, Leon Rose, what he envisioned.
and it worked to expertise last night.
Shout out to Jalen Brunson.
Technically, in any other time, any...
See, you got to understand, as Nick fans,
we've been hurting for 20 years.
We've been let down for 20...
No, no, it's just 1973, technically.
But I'm just saying that our era,
20, 30 years, we've been hurting.
And so any win we get or any way we come up,
we just over-celebrating be like,
Oh, my God, right?
But Jalen Brunson, under any other circumstance,
he would be considered a boarhog on any team
because he needs the ball in his hand every single time.
He's a shoe. He's a shoe. He's a killer. He's a killer.
He wants, sometimes he don't see nothing but the team on his back.
It's good and it's bad sometimes.
Last night, it was, last night he was a killer,
and he was utilizing his team.
I agree with you.
all the way.
My thing is
the man's a killer.
He's a winner.
You know, we've seen too many players
for years that were
happy with being close
but no cigar.
You know, they get to the third round.
They're happy.
He's a finisher.
He's actually trying to bring a championship
to New York City.
And if nobody else believe,
he believe.
You got to believe.
You know that song?
45 missed threes by the Celtics yesterday.
Yeah, that was crazy.
One quarter, I think they were, they shot 20,
they missed 19 out of 23 points.
That was crazy.
But that's the, when they're making them,
they blow you out the arena.
And when they're missing them,
we come back from 20.
I hope they miss a lot more.
I mean, for the New York niche,
you know, we don't know how to act.
Nick fans don't know how to act.
I've been looking, because we won,
I'm enjoying it.
So I'm looking at Instagram, like, random people.
The way Nick fans celebrate, Nick fans are just, we just too much.
We go overboard.
Oh, man, they got parties, all type of shit.
Bawke a way.
He's like, they can't come back from 20.
There's no way they're going to lose.
They're just, and then the last play, when McKell grabs the ball off of Jalen Brown,
he starts going crazy.
Fuck, God, I told you all this.
I'm worth it.
He felt like he was.
It's worth it.
Man, you know, Jalen Brown is hurt.
Technically, he's hurt.
He banged up.
His knee ain't right right now.
He banged up and Porzingis.
Thank God, that guy.
What happened?
He caught the flu?
I don't know.
What, he caught the flu?
He might have got the stomach.
You know, I caught a stomach bug last.
Nobody went the stomach bug.
No.
The vomit in the shit, same time.
You don't want parts of that right there, man.
I'm telling you.
The stomach bug?
I've been shot and I had the stomach bug a couple of times.
couple of times. You do not, under any circumstance, be flying from L.A. to New York with the
stomach bug on the plane. That's that bombs over Baghdad in your stomach. How about if you had the
stomach bug in the Luther seats? Ayah! Yah! Motherfucking, the Hokka Maniacs. You know,
when we go to the game, I had a question for you. I was thinking about, I said, how do you decide
In the time like this, you get court-side tickets.
It's two.
How do you decide who you take with you?
Does your son ask to come?
Does the whole, which one in the cruise gets to sit next to you?
What is that like?
Because I have like.
I mean, most like if any of my kids asked to go,
they're going to win the other ticket hands down unanimously.
You know, my man Kaye are catchy.
But I bring, you know, I got people with me
I love basketball more than him.
So he don't mind being in BB.
He don't care.
Like, he's one row behind the floor.
You're good.
He's still chilling, so he appreciates even all.
But I got some of my friends that they bucket lists
to sit on the floor.
So I try to switch them up and let different dudes catch you.
I don't know if Rich, no, because Rich is the honorary seat.
Hold it.
And I sit here, that's Rich's seat technically.
So he ain't let nobody else get that.
No, no, they get it.
They work them.
They work them.
Baby girl could get it.
They start barring them.
Yo, my daughter would be like,
yo, I'm going to the game tomorrow.
I'd be like, yo, my, you ever talk to Uncle Rich?
Oh, you know what's up?
I'm going to get.
I'm sitting, nah, that's Uncle Rich seat.
Like, you got to figure this one out.
And they're hitting me for more.
You know, they're hitting me bad.
Like, yo, yo, the next game.
Could I catch a game with you?
Yeah.
It's hard to pick who's going to go.
You know, it's hard.
But when we talk about when I sit there,
the first thing I do is look up to the.
to the Luther seats
and so why we call it the
Luther is years ago I used to have
to sit up a deck
and so I mean really
yo there's an upper deck
yo there's an upper deck
in Madison Square Guard
where you have to duck
to get and sit in the seat
like I'm talking about the other
that's where all the Hokka maniacs are at
you know what I'm saying
nah the Hokka maniacs are up there
they'll put you in a pretzoo
you don't know what that's a rowdy
crew how about
Those guys are so happy to be up there
They might have borrowed the money to be up there
That's the truth
They might have borrowed the money
To be up there
Depending on the ticket
It could cost a lot to be up there
Hell yeah
So I'm saying back in the days
Luther Vangor's rest of peace
It's my favorite singer of all time
I remember one concert
I threw the suit on and my shit
I looked like a bus driver
The Sky Blue shirt
With the suit
And I'm up a deck ducking
My wife got a dress on
And we're looking at this
motherfucking Luther Vangeloz about this little from up there.
Our house is not a home.
And so we call that the Luther seats up there.
You know, I mean, what an experience to sit courtside or something like this, man.
It's your honor.
I want to shout out the Knicks for always taking care of me, you know?
Definitely shout out to the whole Nick organization for taking care of myself.
Joe Crack.
Denver, did you see this game?
Denver?
Denver.
Did they pick?
They already picked their MVP?
Because I think after this series,
it might, he might get a little,
he might move up a couple of notches on Shea.
Yeah, 42, 22, and nine.
That's like an inhuman noise.
That's crazy, though.
42, 22, and nine.
That don't even make, what is that?
That's crazy, though.
You, yo, that is insane.
And so you think he's MVP?
I don't know how somebody that a seven-foot, whatever size he is,
averaging a triple double for the whole season or two is virtually insane.
I'll tell you what the problem is.
It is no problem, right?
What's the problem?
But I tell you what the problem is that people don't understand with the Joker is,
in America, we learn, you know, how.
people sing they go,
Dore me,
Faso, you know.
Now, I'm telling you,
when they play sports,
they teach him the same dribble,
who to pass it to,
who this and this and then.
The Joker come from like Serbia
some shit from over there,
right?
He learned the opposite way.
So he do...
The reverse way?
Yeah.
He does stuff you're not supposed to do.
You see the ball flying right past.
You be like, no way he made that.
That's like 101.
In Goucho's gym,
they teach you not to pass.
stab ball like that, Joker
does exactly that.
So all the American players, they don't know
where he's going to do. They fucked up
because they know how you come in
any other way. Joker could do
anything and he does it at his own
and he moves slow.
He's unstoppable.
I call him a slinky. He's like a slinky.
He's like, this, that.
You know how to slinky be going down the stairs?
He's like a slinky, but yo,
he gets the job done.
The other day, the last
series, not even this one.
Last series, he came in there
and you know the Joker, you know, you're a big
boy, so he come in there sloppy. Last series
he had his cheekbones
showing. You know, that's how
I know the boxes is going to. Let me
tell you something, that's how I know the boxes is going
to win. Because when the boxer
comes in the ring and his cheekbones
show, that means that boy been
training for real. The Joker last
series, he's
chubby. He had the cheekbone.
Oh, no, he's not playing. The Joker was doing
On boxing training?
I'm just saying he just was not for play.
He came up in there and he met business.
He was not going to lose.
I don't care who you threw at him, Kauai, Harder, and whoever, he was not going to lose.
I've seen it in the cheekbones.
The joker's a different kind of animal right now.
In the cheekbones.
You know what I'm talking about.
Hey, yo, shout out to the sardi y'all.
His highness.
His excellency.
The guy with the bag.
And the man, he did two countries, two parts of the world one day.
So they had boxing for the first time of Times Square.
I had to buy it.
I think it was $89 or something like that.
I had to buy it a little disappointed, not a little, a lot of disappointed in the actual boxers.
You know what I mean?
And that's why some people, even though I'm always going to be a boxing fan,
some people went more towards the MMA and the UFC because you guarantee.
cheat action.
In boxing, you get a guy to run.
You know, Devin Haney was running that whole fight.
I didn't understand that.
According to me, he's nice.
He wasn't letting them things go.
Ryan Garcia, he got washed.
It's like, you know, I was a fan.
Like, you know.
You're not a fan no more?
No, he's not like that.
I can't do it.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I was never,
God bless him, he's powerful found the face of,
boxing, but I was never a Canello fan
after he fought Mayweather and couldn't
even get a jab off. I can't see you.
That's what you do. This is you.
You dedicated your life to this.
You can't hit the man with a jab.
I can't really big you up like that.
So your man, Ryan...
He had a bad night, though, crap.
Yeah, you can have a bad night.
All right, let's give him another chance.
You're not to have one against Bud.
You know what I mean? I like Bud, though.
No, no, Bud against Canello.
That's going to be a...
It's probably the best fight in, what, 10 years or something?
They weight class.
Bud had to move up a lot, right?
And wait?
Yeah, but Bud is in the, he's probably the best boxing.
He's going to have against Canllo.
Definitely, they're going to have a serious fight.
I can't wait.
I can't wait to see.
I might have to attend that.
The last super fight was Tyson Paul, right?
Mike Tyson.
I didn't get to see.
You didn't see the Tyson ball?
And I'm happy I didn't get to see that.
Shout out to the Serrano said,
sisters, Amanda Serrano, she's fighting
the third time, the girl
from Ireland. What's the girl's name from Island,
the boxer?
Katie Taylor.
And
Amanda Serrano, they fighting in the garden.
That's the third time they fight. They're the
illest female boxes in the
like they really try to kill each other in the
ring. You know, they're tougher than
most guys, you know, so stay
tuned for that. Shalamein.
You don't, you, have you seen this movie?
Do you watch movies?
Musical movies like...
I watch all kind of movies.
I'm not...
I watch whatever.
I'm not one of them people that only watch certain kind of...
Yeah, I watch all of them.
I watch all of them kind of.
You watch all of them, me too, Nina Simbaugh.
I didn't see Bob Dylan, though.
Oh, man.
Bob Dylan?
Oh.
Yo, that movie is the one.
You want to see that movie.
He's that they call him the greatest songwriter in history.
He got the title.
Right?
our style.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the actual movie.
I just didn't see the movie.
And they said,
the man ain't go to the Met Gala.
Because he wanted to watch the Knick game.
He's my type of guy.
I love him.
I'll vote for his next movie even without seeing it, just for that.
No, he's a real Nick fan.
I see him at the games, but he's so talented.
Meg Gala, do you see, look, anything to do with that shit?
I've been seeing a couple.
I've been seeing, I've seen my man three stacks with the piano.
on his back.
That was crazy.
I want to know what...
I don't know.
Is anything any...
Was the transmission in that piano?
Or was it like a empty box?
It couldn't have been that heavy because he went up the stairs.
He walked around.
And the walls came in with like a thousand feathers.
Like my thing is like, yo, listen, one place and there's no disrespect because if they invite me, I'm going.
But one place I ain't been pressed to go to is the Met Gallo.
Matt Gallo. It just looked like a lot
of work. Like all of them outfits
look like they, like the girls
are sucking in, they're eating the
olive for like a month. They're dis...
No, shit, is out of control.
A island fall. Do you know what you
got, you got to be to have a piano
on your back beat?
He had a whole orchestra
on his fucking back, man.
You're kidding me? My man, though,
Snowfall came in with the
motorcycle suit
and they ripped it off and he had the helmet.
Nah, it's crazy.
Then he had a suit under the suit.
It's a bit, I'm not, you know, I'd rather see the Grammys.
I go to the Met Gala.
I would go to it.
If somebody invited me and did all that, I just don't want to wear more than one outfit.
I've never been invited to.
You heard?
I'm cool with the Met Gala.
I don't want to be layered.
I don't want to have like a suit with another suit with a quilt with, with, with, with, this
give me one nice.
You know, you're man...
With some accessories.
Listen, one of my idols, baby face,
he looked like Professor Clump.
I don't know where they...
What is the inspiration?
Babyface look...
He wore this like...
I can't take it to him.
Dick, big ass.
He looked like Clunk, bro.
He looked like Clunk, like Professor Clump.
And his shit, and I'm just...
He wore a suit that had big...
Crazy fat.
Like, he looked like he was a fat boy.
He's not.
But, I mean...
The suit made him look big?
The suit was made like that.
Oh, okay.
was made like...
No fashion.
Big Porn Fat Joe Grammys.
Like big shit.
No, it wasn't like that.
I'm trying to tell you what's going on.
No, he's not.
Yo!
Yo, this shit out of control.
Yeah.
Dick of that shit right there.
I don't know about...
You know, I don't expect Jay to come up in there
like Zorro or some shit like that, right?
Like, would you do some shit like yet?
I just like the regular...
If you invite me, just make me regular.
Don't make me a Zaro hat or nothing that I don't make me, don't get me out of my element.
Rihanna pregnant.
That's a blessing.
Child number three for Rocky and Rie Reh, I think it's beautiful.
You know, let me tell you something, man, A.Sat Rocky, I know him a long time.
You know, he really for the Bronx.
I ain't know that.
No, no, I'm telling you.
I didn't know.
I'm telling you.
I ain't got a, like, I don't need a co-sign on this.
The kid from the Bronx.
I know him from the Bronx.
And then he was Harlem.
It's cool.
But, you know, them babies really from their heritage is back in the Bronx.
I'm trying to tell you, man.
You can trace them back to the Bronx.
I got money on it for anybody.
And I'm not starting culture, but I'm just saying.
You're telling me, is it anywhere on, did he ever say this?
Never, ever, ever.
He never said it.
Are you standing on business, A-Sap from the Bronx?
He know that, though.
Like, I know that.
He know that.
We're going to get to the bottom of this.
Listen, man.
You're a historical person.
You're for the bronze.
Let me tell you, you for the bronze,
there used to be this little,
maybe you snuck in from Yonkers.
I don't know.
They used to be this little place called Miss Elise,
where if you curse, you got to give a dollar.
So all the hustlers,
I seen Dame Dash there and a bunch of people there,
like all the hustlers used to go in there,
she cooked, best cook in the world,
she'd give you that.
What's the brand?
the wheat bread, the yellow and brown one.
Corn bread?
No, not comfortable.
No, it's a brand, the brown and yellow bread.
The wheat bread, the soft one.
And you just put the butter on that joint
while you eat the steak and shit like that.
But, you know, his sister used to go there.
I used to see it there all the time,
Aesab Rocky's sister.
Huh?
Nature zone.
Nature zone.
That's that nature zone right there.
Trust me, I know, but salute Aesap Rocky, man.
doing major, major things
out there and he's, and he got
the babies coming. Those billion
dollar babies, man. Facts.
Shout out my sister, Rihanna.
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And his stage name, sexy sweat.
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We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone.
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Police cuffed him face down.
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I'm like thanking you.
But then I see, my son's not moving.
No headlines, no outrage, just silence.
So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
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Your door fell to the fifth round.
How you feel about that?
What you think was involved?
What you think made that happen?
Do you think that was always going to happen?
Do you think it's some knocks
because he comes from a wealthy,
smart Hall of Fame dad
and he's doing this
with watches and big
Herks and Rose Royces
and think that made the team owners
a little mad and shy away?
What do you think it was?
First of all, let me just say that
all the team players,
all the teams played themselves.
Let's be clear.
That skipped them?
Every one of them teams played themselves.
Giants, Dallas.
The first thing I told him was that you, you think Dallas is going to, they pass on them five
times.
Dallas, they got my man, Dallas never winning with him.
But they gave Dak.
With my man.
What's my man?
He's there for good looks.
Dak Prescott is simply a good looking guy.
He gets the money.
He gets the endorsements.
He's not winning shit.
And Rich, my brother's a Dallas fan.
And I got to join with him.
How do you pass on your door five times?
Like, you got to be on crack.
Not five times, five rounds.
Five rounds is they picked four other guys in front of him.
And every single team, even Cleveland who picked him, they pick somebody before.
He got picked a hundred and something or something.
Once again, I'm going to tell you, every single team in the NFL played themselves.
You see how with LeBron, Bronny, they made sure nobody would pick them.
and he was like, yo, don't pick him.
He got to come play with his father
and everybody fell back.
That was the blueprint of this shit.
They just all got together
all the owners.
We're going to teach him a lesson.
I think it was different, crack.
Brown is inside the organization.
He could talk to Jeannie.
He could talk to Robber Linker.
He could do that.
But other teams, why the Knicks ain't pick them?
Why the Raptors ain't pick them?
Why nobody?
Because they told the whole league,
you know, nobody.
I'm telling you that's,
Like, it doesn't work like that.
That's what they did.
Paul and them guys who fucking managed all the biggest.
Rich Paul in them was like, you better not pick Brownie.
He got to play with his father.
But let's just say this is the reverse of that in the NFL.
They definitely told all the owners, we teach in this kid a lesson.
We're not picking them.
And with the problem with that, the problem I got with that, right?
Is I don't know, Deion, like you guys might know him.
all I know him for is saying God is great, God is good, he's a family man, he takes care
his kids, he coaches kids, he mentors.
I don't know how that would have set every owner of the National Football League to not
pick his son.
Like, it's not like, to me, I don't look at Dion as problematic.
It's not that, correct.
They already stars.
Dion, all his kids, they're already famous.
It's probably some...
I don't know why.
He should have been the top ten, top five, if you ask me.
Listen, Cleveland, I mean, the numbers don't lie.
They immediately sold more jerseys than every other rookie in the...
In the whole league.
He sold more jerseys.
He's going to sell out the stands and jerseys and all that,
but the owners and the GMs want to see wins.
They pay for wins.
No, he's going to win.
So who they picked before him going to make them win more.
than him.
They got too many.
They probably loaded up
so they can start trading everybody
on.
Sean Watson, Flacco.
They want to get, but he's still
there as of now.
He's there. Flacco is like really old school,
right? Well, flaco's efficient for one
year, wherever he go.
He got one good year?
Yeah, like he gives you one good, they usually
bring them in half
this season or like. Yeah, how about the biggest
robbery of football history ever?
Rogers, right? And that's my man, too. I love
Aaron Rogers. That motherfucker twisted
his ankle on the first play.
How much money he caught for the two seasons?
How many? How many
on the first play, B?
Let me ask you something. How many millions was that for two
years right there? How crazy?
You know what? We got to rap?
You know how many times we got to go to Alberta, Canada,
and shit like that to fucking get
the bag up? Like, your motherfucker
twisted his ankle and he, he, how?
How much he caught?
$40.9.
Jeez.
Whoa.
14 and 25
then he's getting to be 35 next year.
Why we don't have that for rappers?
Why we don't have like a way out?
Y'all give Jada a check.
Give Joe a check.
What is it?
I mean,
wait,
I guess this podcast shit
is the new rapper shit,
right?
I met a Jewish funeral yesterday.
One of my best friends,
Jewish.
It's grandmother died.
she's 93 and I'm talking to a Jewish lady right next to her
in the funeral thing and she's like hey Joe man you got to tune into my
podcast and she's like 80 years old I'm looking at I say you know what I can
learn a lot from you I might just tune into your podcast but this shit is just
everybody what's gonna make the difference with the Joe and Jada podcast
authenticity you know what I mean
It's got to be an organic conversation.
We can't ride the waiver what's going on out of it.
You know what I mean?
This ain't that.
And that ain't this.
That ain't this.
It's cracking kiss.
Oh, see, my thing is when you talk about that,
that's one right there.
You know, when you say, when you talk about hip-hop podcast,
see, I can't salute you.
you didn't go
and did a show
and the promoter beat you
for your second half
of your money
or you went to a show
the promoter don't want to pay you
if you haven't been through the farm league
of what it takes.
Listen, you can't be sitting up here
dissecting the albums
and that's the fucking problem
we have with rap since the beginning
since the source mics
and all this shit.
It's like, yo,
you ain't even played a game.
You see, the reason why we love
T&T so much with Chuck
and Shaq.
These are legends.
They played the game.
They know the ins and outs.
When it comes to Jada and Joe, like, we've been fucked over.
We've been won.
We don't have moments.
We didn't have anthems.
We know the game.
We don't got beat by the promoters.
You ain't really been real unless they sick pit bulls on you when you try to get the second half of money.
Or you got to beat up a promoter and take the money in quarters.
You know what I'm saying?
Or you get kidnapped in Africa.
We need our money, right?
We need our money.
So I'm going to take it in quarters.
I need it now.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm going to get my, so when I see these certain guys comment and never had a hit record,
never had an album, never, I'd be like, to me, they're not qualified.
You know what I'm saying?
When they put these mics in front of people, they lose.
Some people just get caught in a moment and say dumb shit, you know what I mean?
And it happens to the best of us.
But in time, in due time, it all come to the light.
Yeah, they just said the best duo ever in hip hop is Ashanti and Jhru.
Can I start with my comments first on this?
Right?
Every show I do with Ashanti and Jarlu, it's the only show I sit there and watch them perform after me.
I just love their music, what they brought to the game,
dynamic together.
It's definitely one of my favorite duos.
And so, you know, I salute Jha and Ashante, I don't disagree.
And it was like you had to have, like, it had to be a group or three or more songs.
They never had an album.
I think for them to win duo of history and never had an album together,
just did mad classic, you know, made hits.
I think that's awesome
But I think, you know
They ain't throw me and Mary on there
I know what's the
Which you had to have three of more songs
Now you gotta have three of more songs
You got a bunch of songs with Barry
Yeah, I got at least three or more though
But you know that boy
He didn't nominating
Let me tell you something
But your coldest one was with Usher
No doubt
That shit, damn boy
Throwback
Shout out to my boy, Arshie
Oh man where Usher
Usher was what
The biggest guy on Nerf at the time
Sure
He's sending you the song.
Yo, Jada, I need you on this.
Ooh, I'm going to watch your back.
When that shit hit and you heard the fucking,
and them drums hit.
Once you see, Yada, you was like, oh, no.
You smoked some real loud.
Like, you might as well be comatose on that shit.
You was like.
I'm like, damn, just bless you, they gave me this beat, man.
Yeah, but he gave it.
to you with Usher.
That's a fucking diamond.
That's diamond song.
He gave me shit.
It was Usher's song that I just
lended a little bit of services to.
Now, I felt it was a beautiful thing
because, like you said,
the Husher was running the world,
controlling the world in his hand.
So when they sent down,
I'm like, all right.
This is going to help.
This is going to help out a lot.
One year since the Kendrick and Drake
discrepancy,
What they like to call it beef in the media world
Since we're in media now
But, you know, thank God
Nobody really, nothing happened to anybody physically
But I feel about
Personally, I thought it was about four or five months ago
I can't believe it's already been a year
This shit is out of control man
How's a year?
But what I can tell you
Is boy that Kendrick Lamar gets some spins
In LA radio
No
Everybody from L.A. gets spent on L.A.
When's the last time you went and put on the radio in LA?
I was there last week.
I was there like last week, too.
Bro, I never seen nothing like this.
Like every single song, they like, turn the TV off.
The other one, there's this, this, the this that, the this.
It's the, the scissor, the, this is that, the, this is the, what?
It's a fact.
Kendrick Lamar gets played nine out of every 10 songs in L.A. right now.
Not even Snoop Dog, not even Tupac Shakur.
Now, nobody from L.A. has dominated the paint.
Like this guy, this last year, what they do in L.A.?
You know, if you're from L.A., you think there's only one guy on earth.
Kendrick Lamar.
I'm just keeping it a block with you.
You turn on that radio on L.A.?
If you're from L.A., you work at Target.
Okay, Amazon, you're delivering some shit.
You're working at the bakery, Bonner, E, or whatever, East L.A.
You're thinking there's one man breathing in the hip hop
It's called Kendrick Lamar
I'm keeping it a buck with you
No, he had a hell of a year
Jesus
That a hell of a career
But the last year
So you
What do you think about beef in the hip hop?
Like I didn't answer this a million times
If you, I let it's getting out of hand
When it gets
For me, I thought it was always good
If you take it all the way back
from Wow style and LL and Cuomo D
and then all the way up to us in 50
to whatever you want.
It's always good as long as it stays on wax.
Now, now when it first started,
somebody says something about you.
You got to go to the studio.
You got to immediately work on getting one back out there.
Boom, now is you knocked the stick off your shoulders
like a fight at the school at 3 o'clock.
Now it got, as the technology evolved, it turned into movie skits,
uh, animations, uh, retrieving fake information and going to the, to the embassy and getting,
it got a little wacky for me.
Like, I like it to be beats and rhymes and keep it like that.
Once it started getting, once it got out of my pay grade, I kind of, I'm,
Not really, I mean, it's a little bit of disinterest to me
because it's turning political now.
It's supposed to be beats and rhymes, mics, DJs.
There's even lawsuits behind rap disc records now.
I never saw that.
That's over my head.
I don't really understand when it gets, you know.
Yeah, yeah, maybe I don't know.
I just want to see.
Let's just say it just want to see rhymes and songs and hip-hop shit.
Once it gets, once it goes to the White House and all that, Supreme Court.
Things like that and, you know what I mean?
To the Congress Library and all that.
You know what I mean?
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The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis.
We were interns at the Nashville, Tennessee. But the most unforgettable part are roommate, Reggie Payne, from Oakland, sports editor and aspiring rapper.
and his stage name, sexy sweat.
In 2020, I had a simple idea.
Let's find Reggie.
We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone.
In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode.
His mom called 911.
Police cuffed him face down.
He slipped into a coma and died.
I'm like thanking you, but then I see, my son's not moving.
No headlines, no outrage.
Just silence.
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Who got nominated for the Hall of Fame this year?
I think Outcast, Saw and Pepper.
You know, Saw and Pepper different, right?
I've done a couple of shows with them,
and it'd be like 99.9.9%.
women fans.
Like, they have a cult women
fans audience. There's nothing
you could do about it. I performed with them a couple
of times. And the way
women, the way
women connect with Salt and Pepper
is very
that story's never been told
right. Like, you know what I mean? Like,
wherever they perform, the
whole venue is women.
You know, they really fuck with Salt and Pepper like
that. So Salute. So on Pepper
come from a time where
You know, the stars were very few, but they were iconic, you know, fat boys, run DMC, LL, Slick Reg, you know, the Rock Kims.
It was one, they only had like 10, and they was holding it down for the ladies.
And, of course, Outcast, you know, they induct it.
They're going to win.
You know what I mean?
Shout out the big boy, three stacks.
what they've done for hip hop is impeccable.
Yeah, they started that whole Atlanta movement
with the goodie mom, and they had everybody follow ever since.
Organized confusion, huh?
Organized noise.
Organized noise.
Rico Way recipes.
You know, so they...
Shout out the organized confusion, too,
Fowal Montch of these other men.
Yeah, yeah, organized confusion.
Then you got, what's the shit?
The nigga, in the middle of the bond.
Crucial conflict, right, from out there in the Midwest, boy.
You know, I mean, you know, hip-hop is so great, man,
because it's such a variety of hip-hop.
If you're out there really trying to like this,
I never knew every way I look on Instagram, TikTokers,
it's my anxiety.
Like, I thought it was like a white girl song.
And my daughter was like, yo, that's don't you?
That's the girl I've been putting.
you want to, Dad.
And I'm like, what?
She's having a hell of a...
She's...
What?
What?
Crazy.
It's my anxiety.
That shit is everywhere under the sunbeet.
Like, I'm talking about, yeah, yo, I did not know it was this girl's record.
Don't she?
Oh, she's dope.
She's super dope.
No, no.
She out of here with this anxiety.
Like, you know, nah, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you that shit is outdoor commercials, whatever.
This shit is touching everybody.
She got one.
She got a culture moving.
Greatest album ever to come out of hip-hop is Mobb Deep Infamous.
She said New York.
New York.
New York.
I definitely think that's one of them.
I definitely wouldn't argue.
I wouldn't argue with that.
You know what I mean?
Infamous album did a lot for me.
It did a lot for my brothers.
Yeah.
It did a lot for hip-hop.
Shit was incredible.
Phenom, you know, you know, when Prodigy died, I was at his funeral, and it was so, it was, first of all, you walk in the funeral and they playing, boom, boom, they had a band playing it.
Boom, boom, there's a war going on outside, no man to say, they was playing the beat when you walk in the funeral.
A band could have been the roots.
I don't know, somebody.
They're playing that, so I'm in the back, I'm tearing up.
And it just hit me at that moment that, say, if hip hop was a pyramid, we lost like a big stone.
Like, I was in there and I realized, like, yo, we really took an L.
You know, Prodigy is dead.
And in the middle of the whole shit, you know how when your friends come up there and talk about you,
one of their men got up there, it was like, and fuck hell, hell, rest one.
the bridge ain't over there
I'm like yo
30 years later
they still shooting at us
I'm like yo I'm with you
I'm at the funeral with you
baby what you're talking about
I don't give a fuck this this that
your face
and you know but
me my favorite album
of all time whether New York or anybody
is illmatic
nasty nons
even when I'm on that plane
and that plane
you know my biggest fear of the plane
when that shit start doing all this shit
he'd be like you
want to take a license for this
your ass should be outside going
to get something
your thumb past anybody
and they got you know all that shit
your son yo son no no
no no no
you know this is ill-matic
you know even when you got the record deal
or you don't got to see that's what hip-hop
hip-hip's missing that a lot too
those legendary skits
the Wu-tank's kid
your son I'm hit
your son I'm hit
Wu-Tang
drag me in the building
You can't take the 17.
It's 17,
go ahead, sir.
They definitely miss the skits.
Anytime you talk about legendary
or classic album or any of that,
they could go for days
like a religious argument.
Yeah, it is.
I only think it was a problem
if it's things on the list
that nobody agrees up.
You know what I mean?
So.
That's the story of the Grammys.
When Ninth won this sat down
and said,
No, that's the story of the Grammy.
I'm not, I don't think nobody can argue with that.
I watched him come into the fucking Grammys.
He sold 30 million record stuff.
You remember that first 50 Cent album?
He was nominated.
That nigga might have lost the tick-tac-toe.
He got up and looked around and walked right back out that fucking Grammy.
Like the Grammy, they've been better these years, right?
But they had it all the way far.
up.
Like, they,
they was giving,
you know,
fucking Mark and Mindy
to Grandi
Grammy over Biggie and shit
like this.
You sitting there
like,
yo,
this shit is
nuts.
I watched 50 Cent
walk in.
Sold 30 million
records, man.
Gee,
he could get
this shit
popping.
Bo,
Bo,
he walked up
in there.
His seat wasn't
even warm.
He sat there
for like two seconds.
And the winner is.
Herbo and Peaches
over here.
And the man
got up and walked out
and that's when I knew
we all fucked in the Grammys
when I saw that shit I said
oh no everybody fucked in the Grammys
like and I don't know what expertise
they use if it has to be elevator music
or some shit I don't know what it is
I know I lost two of my Grammys
I got nominated I want to say six times
one I lost to the Black IPs
for lean back and they didn't
even have Fergie with them they didn't even
had a white girl yet.
So they was really not even popping at the time, right?
They were just the black eyes.
Yeah, yeah, the black eyes.
Yeah.
They ain't had Fergie.
If you ain't got Fergie, you know, you ain't supposed to be winning lean back.
You know what I'm saying?
You just ain't, you know, at least Fergie, you know, we understand.
We got Fergie.
But then the second one I lost was Chance to Rap.
I still don't, yo, let me tell you something.
I'm bitter about that.
I'm better.
Chance of rapper.
Yeah, I know.
He'd be all the way up.
Remy comes out of jail for eight years.
What songs?
I come out of jail.
What song?
No, no, he's born with that.
You don't, the only song.
You don't want no problems.
Got no problems with me.
That's a decent song.
But, you know, it didn't mean as much.
You know, the hood, you know, we went to jail, both of us.
We came back.
We had an all-time low.
We put out a record.
I'm all the way up.
It goes number one.
and chance the rapper wins.
Come on, man.
They wasn't tapped into the culture, right.
Automatically, you're supposed to give it to the Robin Hoods.
I got nominated once.
I don't know who I lost it.
Let me tell you something.
This man, this man, big pun.
First Latino to sell 2 million records solo.
We go to the Grammys.
We went the biggest mansion.
This man get the girls to come from San Francisco.
They did the finger where he,
waves on punt.
Pun had the finger waves like
Mac Dre and all those guys out there
in San Francisco.
That's the infamous pictures.
We got the big suits with each other.
I remember that thing.
Man, we walked up in there.
Your man, Ricky Martin was up there.
He was living like, oh, shit.
I waited my whole life to go to the Grammys.
I'm looking at this.
Everybody's over there.
You got fucking every superstar you have a name
in your life.
So we just sit down.
in one second
when we get there
the guy from loud records
come up
and be like
oh, they did
the hip hop
before this
y'all lost
the pun
said man
fuck these
let's get the fuck
out of you
fuck the Grammys
I see
your pun
he's the first time
we've been invited
to some flies
he was like
fuck them
you coming with me
or not
I was like
oh my God
we walked up
out of that shit
he was tight
he was tight
so they really
matter
you know
people definitely
want to get
celebrated
I think it's
Somebody in the academy that figured out we happy with just getting nominated.
Nah, fuck that.
Donald Trump says Stephen A. Smith should be, should run for president.
Donald Trump always says crazy shit.
I don't think Stephen A. should be the president.
Maybe the president of sports are ESPN, but not the president of the world.
But let me explain, son of you, Donald Trump.
He had a TV show, man.
He had a lot of TV shows, a lot of buildings, golf courses, all of that.
Yeah, but did he be a president?
Correct.
I mean.
Stephen A?
I don't think Stephen A wouldn't be president.
He definitely said he don't want to be president.
But what you got to understand is, all these people, they're regular people, man.
They just become politicians.
And then through the years, they go on their ranks up until being the president.
Why can't Stephen A. Smith go for president?
Trump put in the air that anybody can be president.
That ain't that ain't right.
Anybody can't just be president.
You got to have the people behind you,
but they're all regular people.
What I'm trying to tell you is,
these guys are regular.
They're host, yeah.
So why somebody come from New York
made something?
He's getting $100 million.
By Stephen A. Smith ain't broke.
Yo, he getting bad.
That's doing running the world.
I don't care if he got $100 trillion.
He don't know about having
Going over there talking the big guys over there and all that
What I'm saying to you is
When Donald Trump
Worldly issues
Donald Trump was in WrestleMania beat
It's what I'm trying to tell you
It's like Donald Trump
He made it so as possible for anybody
Donald Trump's like Dion Sanders
There'll never be another one
Yeah, I agree
Nobody's never gonna do what he did ever again
The presidency is not
something to take lightly.
Last few years, we've just been saying
anybody should run for president.
We got to get back the president's running for
presidents. It's a real president.
It's running for presidents. Now, you
ain't bullshit.
We end that one with that. As you get
trending a little, I crack you run for president.
No, he should. No, he should.
Next you know, they're going to be like cracking Lizzo.
President, Vice President.
The motherfucker.
The motherfucker's get sell out of chicken.
You all what I'm saying?
That motherfucker
You know, anybody go for
I don't want to be
President politicians
That's what I'm saying
You know that
Politics to the politicians
Leave me alone
We got to clear this
And then it ended with this
Oh shit is nuts
Y'all
Listen
Train is coming now
Train is coming now
Train is coming
baby
The chain is coming now
Who are they going to kill
What was...
Train is coming, baby.
Skin, Jerry, you're like...
What the hell was the song?
I didn't get to see Sinners yet.
My daughter went to see it three times.
There's one song on there that they skinning somebody alive, man.
That was the anthem.
This is from our Money Train.
Remember Money Train with Woody and...
Yes.
The train is coming, baby.
The train is coming now.
That's how I felt when I flew in.
I just said, damn, this is the...
We're about to take the nation.
by a storm
to Joe and Jay
this show
about to be
official out here
like
you know
this rustle some
ruffles some feathers
immediately
you know
the minute
you and I understand
the minute
they announced
Joe and Jada
got a podcast
it immediately
rang some bells
and it was like
oh shit
they're coming
with that shit
because we are
the train is coming
baby
the train is coming now
the train is coming now
the train is coming
baby
all right
tune in next time
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Happy Mother's Day, pre-Mullors day to all the mullers out there, man.
Salute.
Happy mothers, rest of peace to my moms.
My mom's passed away.
Bless and peace.
This week.
And it's something that you always fear and you always think it might happen,
but then it just really happens.
And so you just got to deal with life, man up.
And shout out to my moms for being such a beautiful influence in me.
and, you know, making me the band who I am.
So Ruby, Ms. Carter, Gina, peace.
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