Joe and Jada - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Knicks-Pacers, Kendrick & SZA's record + DMX & Kanye West stories

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are BACK to react to Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks closing out the Boston Celtics to set up a matchup with Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference Fin...als of the NBA playoffs. Joe gives his firsthand account of Game 6, where he was sitting courtside with Remy Ma and Jon Stewart, and explains the photo of him talking to Knicks president Leon Rose after the game. Joe and Jada go on to discuss Anthony Edwards and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander facing off in the Minnesota Timberwolves vs. Oklahoma City Thunder Western Conference Finals, Caitlin Clark's hard foul on Angel Reese, Kendrick Lamar and SZA setting a Billboard record with "Luther," the season finale of 50 Cent's Raising Kanan, and Slick Rick and Chuck D's new projects. Joe and Jada also share some incredible untold stories about Biggie, Jay-Z, DMX, Kanye and Big Pun. 7:00 - Knicks beat Celtics in 6 17:30 - Caitlin Clark's hard foul on Angel Reese 27:00 - Anthony Edwards: Face of NBA? 34:00 - Chris Brown arrested 37:00 - Kendrick & SZA make Billboard history 43:15 - Biggie & Jay-Z story + “MC” vs. “Rapper" 1:04:15 - Slick Rick & Chuck D's new projects 1:08:00 - Joe’s story about Kanye’s GOOD Music album 1:24:30 - Untold DMX & Big Pun stories (Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.) Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuiltanetwork/ytb/ #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:42 Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get no better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. a fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcast from IHeartMedia to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm just telling you a true story. Like, I got so many...
Starting point is 00:02:15 You might have... We got to filter some of these stories, but I'm telling you. What's up, y'all? You know who it is, your boy Jada. Joe Crack. This is the Joe and Jada show. Presented to you by BoostMobile. Make sure you go to boostmobile.com.
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Starting point is 00:03:04 and I've been telling people, yo, turn the cameras off, yo, turn your phone off. It's strictly for us. Or for one week of podcasts, I turned into the Wendy Williams a podcast. I just got to be honest with you. I never know. What am I supposed to do when I don't have a hood? Oh, like, listen, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I don't know how I become Wendy Williams a podcasting in one week, Jay, They're like, I mean, like, my phone is off the hook. Like, every rapper in the world is hitting me up. Like, yo, Joe, I don't like how you said this. I don't like how you said that. I have to hear Angie Martinez, queen of journalists, one of the queens and be like, yo, how you deal with this? Because, you know, by the way, we went number one, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:46 It ain't easy being number one, but somebody got to do it. So the podcast went number one. So listen, let me, I'm addressing. What happens? Scott Joe's crazy. Yo, what did I do now? Yo, listen. Only thing I agree with before you going to you,
Starting point is 00:04:03 because he got something to tell you. But the only thing that I did see that I don't think I'm prepared for is that when they take, they're taking stuff and switching it around and making their own, you know what I mean? This ain't one of them. That's what you try to say. I was listening to Charlemagne interview with Snoop. And if we did pull up, did you ever say Kendrick?
Starting point is 00:04:27 surpass Drey and Snoop and Cube and all of the... I was talking about radio play exactly. Snoop Dogg is the king. He's the king of rap, hip-hop. Like, you can pull up a million interviews where I said the most famous rapper in the universe of rap music is Snoop Doggy Dog. I wonder, why did he do that to us?
Starting point is 00:04:51 Nah, you know, we're in that space now, Jada. That's what I'm trying to tell you. They're trying to stick the knife in us. Yo, Joe Button, let me tell you something. You all, my friend, I know you 20 years. You've been doing this thing. You ain't sent us no edible. He ain't got to send us no edible.
Starting point is 00:05:07 He didn't send us no edible strawberries. He didn't send us anything. He didn't send us no flowers. He didn't send us no champagne. Where did you get? For one, shut out of them, Joe. Why do you think he's going to send us anything after you named the seats behind the seats after him? Listen.
Starting point is 00:05:25 saying all of this crazy stuff. We didn't think he's going to send us anything. He 800 episodes in. I got to salute the brother. We're the new guys on the block. We ain't got no disrespect for Joe Button. Now, Birdman, I read that. I came into the studio with them talking about that on the radio.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Maybe he's been my friend 20 years. He don't like me talking about him getting divorced. But I got nothing but respect and love for the Birdman. I'm telling you, my phone was shaking. I'm not used to this. We got, Joe, we're still active. You got to, we got love out here. You got to keep the love.
Starting point is 00:06:03 We got to keep the love. And, yo, I did get love. Promptime called us. Dion Sanders, he loves it. Yes. No doubt. He loves how we talked about his family, his son, and all that. He appreciate us.
Starting point is 00:06:17 We're the realist in the game. You know, I bumped into Lenny Kravitz at the Knick game. We're going to go right into the day. I bumped into Lenny Kravitz. I bumped into Amy Schrovetz. Schumer, okay? They both said they've been watching our podcast and that it's funny as hell and they love it. I didn't even know these people know us as human beings.
Starting point is 00:06:35 But let me tell you, let me reflect on the slight hate and the shots we've been getting. Because it's not easy going number one. There's some people been doing podcasts for 30 years and they ain't go number one to get 100,000 subscribers and stuff like we are on our way, right? But let me tell you, this reminds me of the movie American Hustler with that. Denzel. When Denzel, he thought he was down with the mob. They shot him.
Starting point is 00:07:00 They almost killed his wife and all. He said, my family. You've seen what the mob boss said, he said. So you got shot with success, success shot back at you, you know? What do you rather be successful with a couple enemies or unsuccessful with no friends? What do you want to be? What do you want to be? I mean, success shot at us, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:24 We're climbing up too fast. But everybody let you know, I'm going to speak on behalf of me and Jada. We are not malicious. We are not trying to throw shots at nobody, for real. We have a fun, great time giving you our perspective. Now, you came in in your Nick's garb. Tell me about where we are right now. You know what you're doing, baby?
Starting point is 00:07:47 First, I want to see the, because you was just there. You spoke, you was with the, you know, celebrity role was crazy. but game six, what did you see that you didn't see in game five? First of all, ooh, you know me, you on me a roly for that. Listen, I'll tell you what I didn't see in game six that I didn't see in game five,
Starting point is 00:08:11 Jason Tatum. No, no, that's a fact. But shout out to Tatum get well soon, but the Knicks went crazy. We had one of them Boston days. We couldn't miss. That day, I was just like in my couch looking at nothing, just waiting to go to this game, looking at nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:31 My outfit was laid out, the Tim's was there. Oh, he was waiting. He was already like a kid with the first day of school, like this, couldn't wait to go to the game. Like, I was so hype. I took my sister Ramby with me. You know what I'm saying? The vibe the energy felt like New Year's Eve and off rip. It just felt too good to be true.
Starting point is 00:08:54 and they handled their business. By halftime, we already knew we was going to win the game. But us being Nick fam, you know how hard it is. You got to wait to them clocks. You got to wait to that last second because we up 40 and I'm still scared to death. Something could go on. Somebody could hit a hundred threes in a row.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We mysteriously find a way to be only up by three with 10 minutes. Bro, the key to the thing was they stood on that Derek White. They stood on him like white on rice the whole game. They did not let that boy shoot them three. And Jaylor fouled out. It was crazy. Well, you know, they always hurt themselves or foul out. When they lose him by like 40 deciding game, you know, like Donovan Mitchell gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You know, everybody always gets hurt when it's like lights out. It's over. It's a long season. It's a long season. It's a long season. But the vibe, man, a million people on 7th Avenue. When I'm telling you, you know, that exit, like, I think the Knicks got to make, like, a trick entrance now. I don't think we could just keep coming out that same thing.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You made me not go, big game six. You're serious? Yeah, because I couldn't get floor seats, so I couldn't go. My man, hit me. He said, I feel like a sucker now. I'm in second row. I said, no, those are, don't mind me. Those are great seats, man.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I'm just talking my shit. You don't want to go second. I didn't, I don't, I already felt like that, so I ain't going, we ain't going to put them. So you kind of felt like, yo, I don't want to be second vote. They spoiled me with floor seats, so I can only go on floor. You remember the time I was in the All-Star game and they had you in like the second row and I was like, you know, I fought them and said. I don't remember it. When are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:10:43 I'm telling you the truth. I think it was in the end of something. No, Cleveland, I was right next to you like, yeah, yeah, but I, you know who fought for you. Like at first they had you like in the wrong. Hell, yeah. I appreciate it. I went to him. I was like, yo, Jay, the kids can't pee over there.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Like, what kind of violation is this? They got, oh, what's my girl? The girl that sing from London, she's singing incredible, too. Oh, Adele, they got her court side and all that. I started arguing, like, yo, we can't hire that, B. We got to hire that, we got to have a man court side. We ain't doing that shit. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:16 You know, when you want to be successful or not? Succession shooting that. You want success to shooting at you. What do you want us to do? We Nick fans now. Everybody want us to fall. Everybody, a million people. We are always celebrating prematurely.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yes, one million percent. You know, I party with coach Leon Rose. Yeah, yeah. World War, hold on. They say he was conversating with Tibbs. What was going on? Leon Rose, they're like, he wanted to cry. He grabbed me by the show to sit.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Tears of joy. Eight more games. Tears of joy. He was like eight more games. I want to give him a hug like, you're my man. Like, thank you for what you're doing. but it's eight more games. That's all he told me, that's all coach kept telling me.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Everybody was like, yo, we need eight more wins. Eastern Conference Finals, what do we have to do to zip Indiana up, man, pack them up? Now, let me not go bad, right? Because I believe it's going seven games. I believe we win in. Last year, we had them on the ropes. We could have beat them,
Starting point is 00:12:27 but everybody in the team was hurt. Mitchell Robinson, the OG, had the hamstring. Jalen Brunson broke his hand playing in Indiana. That's not how we coming now. He took them seven, though, with a depleted team. No, no, but now we're going to take them, though. They got a mean team.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Don't get it wrong, the Turner. You got Turner, you got Halliburton, but you got Ziacom. See yaku Obi The little white boy is sneaky as hell He get up in there
Starting point is 00:12:55 With them shots No no They're dead nice But They coach I think we got Carlisle's good coach Yeah Carlis
Starting point is 00:13:02 He ain't better Than Tibbs Man don't get fooled By the Carlisle And all I'm Everybody got to go You know what Don't like the Boston coach
Starting point is 00:13:10 You know Man he went to the Boston game He's a youngest coach In the thing You don't like him He's young Nerd Hispanic
Starting point is 00:13:17 Right I don't care He just looked, you don't, he's young. How you don't like him? What did he do? Did he do something? He looks too smart. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:13:27 He looked too smart, man. He's up there with the Harvard and all that. He looks too smart. Not this guy, he ain't Sam Cassell, I salute. He's like Sam. Heavenly, we need Sam, we need Sam to get a head coaching job. Yeah, Sam Cassell would be the man. First time of history of basketball.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Because I always say the young boys can never make it to the or winning the chip because they got to lose a couple of times. Hold on, don't go into it yet. The Western Conference, Game 7, OKC put a clinic on the Joker and them boys. What you think? You think they got enough to be a championship team, OKC?
Starting point is 00:14:07 One million percent. OKC got a chance to be, they got the biggest chance to be honest. With all that Nick shit you wearing and all the Knicks, they are the team to beat. Now, Ant Man got something to say, man. Ant Man and Julius Randu have something to say. That is going to be it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Now... So it's safe to say you take it Minnesota. Not over my nix. I'm never taking nobody over my nix. No, no, I'm talking about the Western Conference Finals. Western Conference Finals. I'm going to take Minnesota because I love Julius Randall, Devincheco, and I think that that's the Cinderella series,
Starting point is 00:14:44 the Knicks against Minnesota. but SGA and O KC ain't nothing to fuck with, bro. And they are dead serious and they're very mature. You know when you meet a kid and you're like, you're mature for your age? Yeah, he's too smart. Oh, yeah, he's smart. SGA is cool under any type of pressure.
Starting point is 00:15:06 This kid looked too cool under any type of pressure. He remind me of my guys from the Kansas City Chiefs. he reminds me of my guys from the Kansas City Chiefs they cool under any kind of pressure any kind of pressure SGA, that's the series, right? They wasn't cool under the pressure
Starting point is 00:15:25 when the Eagles this past Super Bowl. Yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is when you face Tom Brady it was all that cool shit I did. Listen, man, when you face Tom Brady you look him in the eye, you barely lose then you come back and you win two, three championships in the world.
Starting point is 00:15:42 the thing about these quarterbacks, the most legendary quarterbacks of all time, is they calm under pressure. Like, you don't never seem stressed out, right? It'd be like one minute left. They're sitting on the side, whether it's snow and whatever, and they get up in there. And they, the best of the best,
Starting point is 00:15:57 they get up in there and they go, that's what SGA feels like. Ant Man, I've seen them out of control. Don't tell me about Randu. He could get out of control in one second. These guys are Looney Tunes. SGA? It's safe to say for me,
Starting point is 00:16:14 I don't want to play O'KC. Oh, why you don't want to play O'KC? All of that shit you just say. I want to hear your perspective of a shit. For one, they were 15 games ahead of every team in the NBA for the regular season. For two, when they win,
Starting point is 00:16:33 they win in by 50 and 30 and 47 and all out in the playoffs. They got all of the right pieces to beat the shit out of us. I would rather play Minnesota. If we can get past Indiana, I'd rather be the Knicks. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:16:50 In Minnesota in the chair. And the hardest time, he bothers me. The whole OKC bothers. The whole OKC. They're obliterated us all year. Yeah, but now, Boston beat us four times in the room. We tore them up.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Let me say the Nix has got different type of vibe. That ain't this. This ain't, and it's cracking kiss. God damn, man. You ain't got to use our shit against us, man. Tell you. You, why are you going to use the slogan against us? It ain't that, man.
Starting point is 00:17:18 OKC is different, crap. Let me tell you something. The WMBA, to me, I'm not going to lie to you. Last year they took over basketball. They was on fire more than NBA. The Caitlin Clark, the- Andrew W-R-Jas. I went to a lot of W games last year.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Me and you, right? Shit's been fired. Shout out my liberty. My girl, Sabrina, Brianna, they raised you. They raised the Raptor. You know what I'm saying? Because they literally, I got it now. Now, what I'm about to tell you, I hope it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:17:51 But I got it now. I realize why the refs and the NBA has been letting these teams go ham. Like, this is definitely the most physical playoffs in 10, 15 years. They letting them ball out there hurt each other, whatever the case. Bad boy basketball. No, I'm trying to tell you that. No, I'm trying to tell you that. No, because the WMBA was taking over basketball
Starting point is 00:18:18 and the NBA made some adjustments. Oh, all right. They said we can't be calling the simple, you know, the Kobe fouls, the MJ fouls. You remember, you breathe past thumb. It's a foul. That's not happening now. Jalen Brunson hits the fucking wood floor like 36 times a game.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Blood, ramble. The heart eye jammy stitches, this. They're bowling out there, That's why I finally got it. They compete with the WNBA. You know, just yesterday, Caitlin Clark filed the Angel Reese. That was a regular off foul.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It was a take foul. Go take two shots or whatever, but they got all in. Andrew Reese looked like she wanted to beat Caitlin Clark up, and then, you know, what's sad is, this country drives off of racism. Right? I never look at basketball as racism.
Starting point is 00:19:06 If a white boy coming to park, Cooper flag came last year, and the rucka lit them up with the game shot. We jumped on the court. Everybody jumped up. We don't really look at it as racism. But every time these two girls play, it turns into a racism conversation, racism.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And to their point, if Andrew Reese would have filed Caitlin Carhart like that, the white people would immediately would have said racism. Nah, man, you're buggy, though. I'm telling you what's going on out there. I think they're two different plays. For one, they've been putting them together since LSU and Iowa. They play different. Angie Reese is on the block and she's doing other things.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Caitlin Clark is point guard. She can shoot and pass. They play totally two different games. So why do we keep hearing them too? Because if it was regular basketball. Because of these microphones right here, people need to stir up some shit. You just seen it. You just said it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 They said they spewing racism remarks in the crowd. Oh, yeah, I ain't with that. We don't, we're going, we're going to stand tall with Andrew Reese. We ain't tolerating racist remarks in the, in the arenas and all that. They got to get to the bottom of that. Yeah, they got to, security got to get them out. Can't come to no more WNBA games. We can't have that in the game.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But they, you know, that's that Larry Bird, you know. 50 million years ago. We got a new one. Jade, I'm telling you what's happening in the streets. We have a new one. You put an Andrew Reese and Caitlin Clark. Well, it's the second game of the year. They started the racism talk.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm telling you. Oh, well, way too early, but that's what it's looking like. I'm telling you the truth. I don't know if Angel Reese is magic. I do know Caitlin Clark is bird. I could tell you that much. I could tell you that much. I think it's about the ratings, man.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I think the NBA. You think they're bringing in the race them for the radio? Not racism, I'm off for that. I don't think racism is going to be around forever, and that's just what it is. I think the physicality in this playoffs right now is due to the ratings. It could be a little bit of the WNBA,
Starting point is 00:21:25 but the ratings. The WNBA was taking over, they tired of hearing all that talk. I watched basketball all year, and they take fouls, they was using their whistles all day. The playoffs, I'm seeing dudes can shove elbow slammed the refs is looking like
Starting point is 00:21:43 black eyes blood all over the place everybody going to the sideline fixing their uniform because they got blood on their shit do it feel like the old NBA? Yes it does and we're appreciating it yeah we love the eyes they got a lot of eyes
Starting point is 00:21:58 you know little fouls and then stop the game and all that shit I don't even like the refs being a part of like the citizens decision making of the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, I, call a foul if you call a foul, but this is the playoffs, let them play.
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Starting point is 00:27:44 Even though he said he don't want to, but he seemed like to be in the headlines. I think we all say that. To alleviate the pressure, he know he's the face of the league. You know what I'm saying? They say he's Jordan's son. They say he's Jordan's son out there. Oh, that's a pause? I'm just saying what they say.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They're saying he's Jordan's son out there. We know Jordan's sons. Yeah, yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is the man look too incredible out there. You understand what I'm saying? And the kid's going to always look up to him, but he wants to say, I don't want to be a role model just to throw that off. You know, as far as the face of the NBA, though, I think it's like a nickname. People got to give you your nickname.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You can't just come outside and say my name is king such as I'm. You're right. They're giving them his thing. You earn your shit. He got all the commercials. All of that, yeah. The sneakers, the hottest sneak in the game. The way he talks, the way he plays.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You know what? Shout out J.R. Morant. You know, we're about to play them. The Terror Squad team. Shout out to Chris Gotti and Clash TV. We're going to play them because we launch in the new Terror Squad Air Force One, the red and white joints. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I'm waiting for my pants. You know, so, now, you always, you got a lot of sneakers. Yeah, Jay. I'm a student in the sneakers. You got the, you got them red and whites is official. I got the box. that says terrorist squad Air Force One with the professional,
Starting point is 00:29:09 not a sample, the shit that go in the stores. Like, I really received the box, the sneaker with the box. Like, it's in. There's nothing you could do about it. That's coming out. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You know what I'm saying? So shout out the Nike, but we're going to play John Moran. That's fine. I'll be there. I'm going to go back to the coaching. We're probably going to do it in the Bronx, Watson Park.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Shout out to Watson. You know what I'm saying? John Moran, he's going to play against the terrorist squad. You know, we back out there, Phil Knight. We're not going to file John Moran. We're going to let them ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no injuries, no injuries.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's entertaining, it's a good ball, but we're entertaining the people in the trenches. You know, it ain't been, now that I say that, it ain't been a sneaker to hit like Anthony Edwards sneaker from a player in a couple of years. What's the last player sneaker that everybody's saying is an old sneaker? LeBron had half of something. John was about to take off before he caught the, um, yeah, before he had his little incident. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Jaws, all of the kids was going crazy over the jobs.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah, but that Anthony, yeah, well, KD, has some. Right now, the ladies got it, Asia. Asia ones is fired. Some Asia ones are fired. Sabrina joints are rocking. They playing Sabrina's, but I think Asia, Asia joints is hot. Now, Asia shit is hot. Shout out to Asia.
Starting point is 00:30:33 She's the real deal. I'm a Juju Wachins. Juju Wachins. I'm huge or Jujo. Juju Wachens is the shit. A game is incredible. Nobody. I'm not going to say nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:43 No, there we go. I'm not going to say. Yo, listen. Hey, listen, I'm a huge fan that you, like, her whole game, she reminded me of Carmelo at times. She's just too nice. I can't wait for her to get in the WMBA. Why are you laughing?
Starting point is 00:31:00 I agree. What did it? Jujua Watkins is coming and she's going to take over the WNBA. That's it. That's that. What do you want to say? We're not talking about the Subway series.
Starting point is 00:31:13 You know what it is as far as baseball. But whenever the Bronx bombers play the Mets, it's just a good look for the city. There's a lot of traffic. You know what I mean? A lot of cloderation. And you know, the Yankees. Juan Soto got struck out.
Starting point is 00:31:30 He got up out of there. You know what I'm saying? I was betting yesterday, so it was serious. I was betting on the game period. Now, can you enjoy a game when you betting as a normal fan? Or, like, I don't bet. And so that's how I'm able to enjoy the game. Like, I'm watching the game with my man, he's like,
Starting point is 00:31:49 D over under, D.R. Huh, one more rebound. I'm like, yo, bro, what are you talking about? Yo, we're trying to win the shit. I get to enjoy the game more when I got money on it, opposed to just looking out of the end. Correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I thought it's harder. I thought like when you bet, it's harder for you to enjoy the game. Yo, shout out. Oh, well, not shout out, but your man, Antonio Brown, he stood his ground. You know, he let that thing ring off. Legend. Yo. This is a family show.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You don't promote violence? No, we don't. But what I'm saying is the reason why I love. Guys crazy. I love the beautiful state of Florida because if you got the hammer on you and somebody, there's five guys jumping you for your jury,
Starting point is 00:32:41 you can let that thing go and go home that night. You don't go to jail. They come and, oh, sorry, we see. You got jumped. They were snatching your chain. Oh, you let off some shots, you know. And Tony-
Starting point is 00:32:52 You know when you got an illegal firearm is rules that you got to abide by. I understand. Having a fight then leaving and coming back with it, ain't one of the rules. See, you're promoting violence over there. No, no, no. I'm not promoting violence.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm just saying, I don't know the introspectives of it. What I am saying... You're just like how he defended itself. He's got to defend himself, man. That's the way it is. And I hope he's all right, because he seem a little bugged out. Antonio Brown looked bugged out, though, like, real talk. I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He's like, is he normal? is he, or is he bugged out? Like, he looked like, he said, dude, let me tell you something. Angie Martinez said, when you talk about people on this podcast, you better watch you. Talk like they're in the building.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I do believe I would tell Antonio Brown if he was sitting in this couch. You look bugged out. You bugged out. I can't. You know, so that's my new role. I got to stand with you. If I talk about people,
Starting point is 00:33:52 I got to talk like they're right here. And I would tell Antonio Brown, you're my man, like, you look a little bugged out. But defending himself, I'm going to say that's what it is. We seen too many people get taken advantage of and all that. We just told everybody give up your chain last week. Yeah, young boy from Queen.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Defend yourself if you got a legal firearm of security, right? Yeah. You said it. You said it, not me. Chris Brown goes to Manchester. You know, you got this big tour coming. enough. Chris Brown has like a hundred-something million dollars.
Starting point is 00:34:33 What is a billion dollar tall? What is it? Hundreds of millions. Every show is in, he's a stadium. It ain't even the arena. We condemn domestic violence of any kind. I don't even care if, if you, you won't see Fat Joe on tape getting jumped by a bunch of lesbians.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Like if the lesbians want to, tell me out. I'm not. fighting. Oh, Lord. I'm just letting you know now. I had a time if a bunch of guys, I don't know. Forgive him for me. Forgive him. I'm not hitting no women. I don't know where he's going with this. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:35:12 What is this? Look, domestic violence, I do not condone by any, any circumstance. Why do you can't leave it like that? So if you see a video of some women beating me up and I'm not swinging back, it is what it is. I'm not hitting them back. I'm just not going to hit him back. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:35:30 So what I'm saying is Chris Brown, I don't know whose feathers. He was like this is a complete set up to me. He's going to Europe to get ready for his tour and they arrest him and leave him in jail with no bail. Like he killed somebody. And then also, they said he threw a buck. Come on, man. He said he hit a music producer with a bottle. Where's the video?
Starting point is 00:35:54 They got a thousand videos of him last. For one, they got the, they got different laws than us. But what I'm saying is, why I can't see the video of Chris Brown throwing the bottle, we're hitting the guy with the bottle. We would have saw it already. Right? We saw the whole Antonio Brown. You knew he ran back, got the yala, and came back with the yala.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Why Chris Brown? It didn't happen in Manchester. They got more cameras than us. Yeah, but we don't got access to the camera. Listen, I'm throwing the fly. I'm throwing the flag down. I'm throwing a foul. Free Chris Brown.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Let him get on with the tour. I think they saw. You're about to go over there in a few weeks. Don't bother them people. I love them, UK. But the hidden hand is what I'm trying to tell you. Somebody keep fucking with Chris Brown because the man trying to do his thing,
Starting point is 00:36:44 get it to his bag. And every time he's trying to elevate and go to another level, somebody's trying to pull him back down. I mean, that's what I'm seeing. Conspiracy Joe. Not even crazy joke. Ooh, Swiss.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Ooh, we added another one. Conspiracy joke. No, conspiracy joke is that, you know, I'm not. No, I'm not talking about. We got several more. We got crazy Joe now. We got conspiracy joke. You take it from there.
Starting point is 00:37:09 When you wanted to talk about that? We want to free Chris Brown so you could get on with the tour. So, sir, shout at you. Speaking of music, Kendrick and Cizzer make history. Kendrick's Luther featuring Cizzer remains number one on Billboard's top 100. for 12 straight weeks setting the record for most weeks at number one for a song
Starting point is 00:37:30 co-built solo men and women. And we spoke about John Ashanti being named best rapper slash singer duo or Kendrick and Sizer position to take that number one spot on the duo tip?
Starting point is 00:37:45 But what you got to understand is we don't know if they're going to still be best friends and all that forever, you know what I'm saying? Because right now they got about six, seven songs. They all number one. Yes, they could take the slot. One million percent, they can take the slot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I like your answer. No, no. They make missiles. Phenomenal. Whenever they drop something together, it can be a movie soundtrack for Black Panthers. Whatever they should, they drop. 30 for 30.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah. Luther. This is all magic. They drop, they drop bombs. They are fire together. I'm just saying if it ever gets rocky, you know. It's not going to get rocky, man. Well, then they're going to take the slot.
Starting point is 00:38:22 They're going to, they're on. they wait. You know, you got to understand the thing I always hated about LeBron, and LeBron's one of my favorite players. Ever put hate with LeBron? Not hate, but let's say Drake. Drake is one of my favorite guys, too.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Drake with him. I'm not saying hate either. But what I'm telling you is that now, when these you got to understand, rappers back in the day, they put out an album every four years. Don't ask me why. That's what it was. Right? So, the
Starting point is 00:38:53 All these stats that we check in rock him for and all these other rappers who we consider the greatest of all time, they was doing the album every four years. Now you got a Drake who drops four albums in one year. Of course he's going to run up the numbers. LeBron knew what the MJ numbers was. He knew it was 5,000 points, 32 rebounds, 3,200 rebounds. And he's coming looking at that score to take down every thing. right now. We just said, well, I just said right now, they called Jai and Ashanti, which I agree,
Starting point is 00:39:31 the greatest duo of all times. I'm telling you that Cizor is the solo artist, Kendrick, because why they know, they probably like, all right, they have 15 number ones. We already got eight. Let's bust this down in two years and we have 18. I don't even think they look in at their numbers. I think they're just making good music. I think they are, though. I think, I, I, I I think that artists and ballplayers, they know what it is, and they just moving fast. They crawled so they can walk. They even create a category of this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You know what I mean? You know, I've got some shit to say, right? There we go again. No, no. There, you know, D. Ray Davis. D. The committee. I love a committee.
Starting point is 00:40:16 He posted a video of him in Coach. It said it's the first time in 12 years he'd been in coach. He feel like he got flued out or something. Like, what do you feel about flying coach? Spirit, jet blue? I ain't really hopping on the spirit. I hop on a jet blue. I hop on a coach for a short flight.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You do it. A quick one? Yeah. You know what I mean? A short hour or two. Let me tell you something. I ain't, you know. I said, I'd rather go jet blue than like a coach, 11, like 31E.
Starting point is 00:40:48 When I get a jet blue, I stay right in the front, watch TV. I watch a few law and orders on there. Well, I can't go to Cali or nowhere. I'm not doing no real hours on coach. I can't do it, right? Not two hours? No, no, no. I definitely can't.
Starting point is 00:41:04 There's 100,000 are you going to get on the PJ? I pray. I literally, this is part of my prayer. God, please don't put me in coach. It's a whole different atmosphere back there. I'm not telling you that first class I got a little room. No, I pray. It's part of my prayer.
Starting point is 00:41:22 prayers every day God please keep me in first class I went coach one time some guy was getting married now first class I'm telling you the truth what you want me to do I got to expect to find the things in life go ahead we got it's hard being number one but somebody got to do
Starting point is 00:41:37 it so what I'm trying to tell you is the one time I had to fly coach I sat next to the hillbilly gyms that Beverly Hillbilly when I tell you these kids was climbing over my shoulder some kid threw another kid a bag of Potato chips smack me in my faith.
Starting point is 00:41:53 They would die. It's a different type of atmosphere back there. It was not the same. He wasn't in cold. No, no. But these was white people. This is the Beverly Hills belly. Hey, John.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Shit, hit my head. Kids climbing over my shit. Yo, I was praying so much in that seat. And that was the Vegas. Oh, see? Yo, I was praying. It was the only flight. I was praying.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I said, God, please, Lord Jesus. I do never want to be on this. again. And let me tell you some, I also believe that, like, the cheaper airlines, like Spirit Southwest and all of them, they pay for fucked up routes out there. Like, they pay for the potholes. Yeah, because they shit always like this. You ever got on a spirit or they shit like this? I think they paid. All right, what's the wackest level? 34,000 feet. It's cheaper. Yes, they buy that route. And you ship me like this all the time. You get there safe, but you ship me like this.
Starting point is 00:42:52 You, how come we... Rout to the end? You pay... It's the end. Listen, you pay for a private. They'll tell you, yo, we're going over all... I watch Calid maneuvered.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like, yo, I don't want no bumps. I want you to be like, yes, sir, don't worry, we're going to go to the west, to the right. There's no weather in 47,000. Like, you pay for that air. There's a reason why Spirit Airlines and all the bullshit airlines
Starting point is 00:43:19 got that shit going like this. We can forget about getting a sponsorship of spirit. No, no, no. Well, we could take the bullshit out, right? But just lower level airline. All right. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Oh, shit. I'm going to tell you, and I think I almost got to read this off my phone because this is, you know, I always think about the late great DJ Clark Kent, super producer. Best and peace to my brother. Snicking King. God's favorite.
Starting point is 00:43:51 man God's favorite he you know this guy was the best in the world he passed
Starting point is 00:43:57 away but I always think about when he said because you know he did it all like he was cool with Biggie
Starting point is 00:44:04 JZ like he put them on and so he started with cool herk he's seen this whole shit from hip-hop
Starting point is 00:44:10 man he wasn't that old man he wasn't he's one of cool herk's original DJ Superman Corpint
Starting point is 00:44:14 was down with cool her that's how far he go back I met DJ Callin and DJ Nancy Nancy
Starting point is 00:44:21 at a at a Clark Kent battle he had a battle and we came up that's how I meant Calid on line around Flojo time and so he said
Starting point is 00:44:31 that Biggie and Jay Z both his men and Biggie would be like yo why you say Jay Z but he used to tell
Starting point is 00:44:38 Biggie that Jay Z's better right and Biggie would be like how you think he's nicer than me he'd be like
Starting point is 00:44:46 yo because you're a rapper he's an MC he's like a poet he could You know, this is early, Jay-Z, before all the hits. He's a poet, whatever the case may be. And so, to me, the difference of an MC and the rapper is an MC is, and you have huge hits, too, but you more, you got your hand on the third rail,
Starting point is 00:45:11 Taleb, Khalid, Jadikis, Common, these are KRS, MC's. Rappers, what he's referring to is the guys on Bill. the billboard that crossed over and we think they commercial. What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and Jay Z where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than son. But he was like, nah, Jay, nicer than you. He's an MC. Of course, this is before success.
Starting point is 00:45:37 What do you think the difference between an MC and a rapper is? I think an MC is just what it means. You know what I mean? You can troll it in a maestro. You can do anything. You have diversity. You have, you know, you can do different. You can do a beer commercial.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You can do an R&B feature. You can do it all. A rap is just playing with words. You know, the ability to put words together. MC can control the crowd. He can have the crowd in his hands. He can engage with the crowd. Yeah, but Nelly, he does stadium.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Not just even the crowd. would just Hey, it's all about the money. Now you're going into being an entertainer. You know what I mean? Is it an entertainer? Is a rapper? Is it an MC?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Now you got, now you've got people that wrote the song that you never even see. Yeah, Pac was everything. A actor, a dancer, rap, Pac had all the tools of everything. He was everything. He can do drama. You can make music.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Because I'm trying to find out who's the perfect one. Like, so you say, hot. That's why I so many. The Obama's like a Picasso. Yeah. It's like it's the best song write in the game. You got guys like Hove, who would I Love the Doe, was talking about, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:59 we cop the hottest vs, then we play Monopoly with real cash and that big come on his shit, right? Was you ever there for any of them, like, big song? I was there for hypnotized. I was there when he wrote with Hypotize. Was you there for I Love the Doe or anything like that? I was there for I Love the Doe or anything like that? I was there for I Love the Doe. No!
Starting point is 00:47:17 We was actually in the, we was in the middy room. You know what I mean? They both was there? Yeah, it was none of, it was no fucking emails and none of that there. You had to be there. So you seen them both going at it right there? It wasn't battling and none of that. They was trying to make a hit song, which they did.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Did you see any paper? Did you see any paper in rhymes? No. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see, listen. I didn't see, listen, you're going to tell a real story or not? Everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood for a reason. Listen, we was in the middy room.
Starting point is 00:47:56 We was the young locks. And Hove kept coming in our room, like, giving us an update of what's going on. Like, you know, I got to go first. I'm about to go first, this thing. And he's like, no, he's going there and kill that shit. I mean? And he was probably going to the bathroom. Then he was stopping the midday.
Starting point is 00:48:15 kicking with us, you know what I mean? And we actually seen Angela Wingbush. That's not a sample. That's her singing, I love the dough. We've seen her laying a hook. We've seen DMX laying pray and pray for my downfall. That ain't a sample either. We've seen them record that live.
Starting point is 00:48:35 We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life After Death. There's only a couple features on there. So we love Big Forever, you know what I mean? We're thankful to been around for the process of life after death and slightly before that. It was a beautiful thing. But, yeah, we was in the studio the day they made. I was in the stew for Love the Doe.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I think I was in the stew. Eva, I was there for a lot of them or when we would come for our session, we were here what he just did, go on kiss good night. A lot of them. Of course, we was there for last days because we featured on it.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah, but you know, when I think about, when we're talking about the perfect MC, the perfect rapper, perfect performer, entertainer came up a lot today. I think DMX shows which one of them DMX songs. You was there every song he recorded. Oh my, I was there for a lot. Shut him down, open up shop. I don't think he wanted to do that.
Starting point is 00:49:34 When Swiss first boarded to him, he didn't want to do it. He didn't want to do that. I don't think, at first I don't think he was like happy to do it into it. When it was done, when I tell you, it was a major hit. And at this time, I was still halfway in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So I'm at the car wash. And when I tell you, every single car, I don't care, it was a Spanish dude that would be playing salsa. They was playing that shit. Like,
Starting point is 00:50:03 that song had me the disiest. You know how you go Fordham Road? Where you go in Yonkers when you want to see if your record was popping? Like, Benjamin, you came outside. Yeah, you go to 14.
Starting point is 00:50:13 You go to Fordham, you go to... Fordham, right? I used to do that. You go to Fordham, you see the cars coming up and down the hill. I stand in and see who's playing my album, whatever. Yeah, up and down the hill, yeah. Man, I have never witnessed in the history of the Bronx. Stop.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Shut him down. Yo, I was dizzy. It was everywhere. Like, that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song. That was that shit right there. He didn't even want to remember. record that. I think Swiss had a little problem making them
Starting point is 00:50:47 getting a delay to once you're finding what, the final mixing mastered version came up and they knew what it was. You know when I went, shot the video, it was out of it. Show me how good
Starting point is 00:51:07 it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get no better than being Hella Black, Hella Queer, and Hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. A fully Black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcasts that explore society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Heller Christian to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look. I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice is given to me by God and I love it. Books that validated our identity. The library now for me is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shells.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge
Starting point is 00:52:19 your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles, and more, and found the shrimp to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal.
Starting point is 00:52:50 He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever. you listen to your favorite shows. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.
Starting point is 00:53:16 They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny, you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally
Starting point is 00:54:02 solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis. We were interns at the Nashville, Tennessee. But the most unforgettable part are roommate, Reggie Payne, from Oakland, sports editor and aspiring rapper. And his state's name, sexy sweat. In 2020, I had a simple idea.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Let's find Reggie. We searched everywhere, but Reggie was God. In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode. His mom called 911. Police cuffed him face down. He slipped into a coma and died. I'm like thanking you. But then I see, my son's not moving.
Starting point is 00:54:56 No headlines, no outrage, just silence. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to finding sexy sweat on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts I'll try to keep this conversation non-controversial you know what I'm saying because I don't know why I want to sit down let's go crazy Joe listen I want to sit down with a podcaster
Starting point is 00:55:28 that has three followers who think he know and because they sit down yo this guy's cap he's a I want to sit down next to one of them and their night you're a part of when they, when they, uh, shoot, they, I'm a walk in the night show, right, and sit next to him. Because I'm, I don't think people truly understand. I'm a project, baby, for where, I'm from the projects to Saw You or Saw You, you know, you can't do nothing to Fat Joe. If you go look him up street, you, what you can't not say, I'm be looking at, and I'm really looking at guys calling me a capper, a this, or that.
Starting point is 00:56:09 want to sit next to one of these guys to say break down the cap because when I say shit you know I said I did records with big everybody he's the cap of a lifetime they put out the uh the second album the double album fat Joe was featured on that album now did they take me off they took me off but they put out the real list and somehow some way every time I say so if I say I save commons life he come up on here I save I saved this life and it's come I don't know what, I'm trying to verify. Where's the cat? And there's some of you guys.
Starting point is 00:56:49 You don't need no validation. No, no, no, no, listen, some of these guys. You want to do some. Because if you're really from the projects, some of these guys are so horrible on these podcasts that they're not even garbage. You ever seen the dumpster in the, in the, in the projects where they got like that gilk, that gook, that shit. Your shit like that. The dumpster juice.
Starting point is 00:57:10 The dumpster juice. Your shit like the gook that come out the bottom of the dumpster. Don't compare yourself to us. I sit. We need 800 episodes. I'm talking prematurely. But yo, I'm not used to number two.
Starting point is 00:57:23 We got to go number one. We went number one on Apple off one EP. This shit is new, Joe. We knew, man. We got to be humble and thankful, man. I'm humble, but I speak reality. And if you guys don't think I'm watching y'all, I do watch you.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Do you watch? How about the scruntle emcees? They never got under your skin, like disgrunt through former crew members and stuff like that. When they go off, you just ignore them all the way. You got beef with Jada. Say my name.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You shy? I said, they don't say my name. They say my name because they think, they think your way up. Listen, they think your way up. They wouldn't say my name 10 years ago, 15 years ago, when we was running around giving the beats today
Starting point is 00:58:09 favorite rappers. Now they say my name because they say, oh, this guy, courtside, he's number one. I'm going to get a lawsuit. I'm going to get the lawsuit. These are all lawsuits. They think they're going to trick me out of the streets. You understand what I'm saying? They wasn't saying my name when we was giving dudes the beats every day.
Starting point is 00:58:26 So I'm just saying, I'm going to choose one of you guys who got a podcast in a preferably a nitre setting. I'm coming by myself with about two million in jury just so I can show you how much cap I'm working with. And we're going to sit there and I want to see you break
Starting point is 00:58:45 down the cap because, you know, that's how I feel. That's it. I'm going to do it. One of you going to be a lucky contender and you're going to have a couple of more followers than your two aunts and your cousin. I'm coming with a torpedo bat. That's all I know.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And so, it's hard being number one, but everybody got to do. So why? Success shot at you. You know, so we hear, let me tell you something. Swisted. The train is coming. They're in the success shot at you.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Success. I like the success shot at you. No, success shot at you. You got to, listen, we're going to do what we do because we do what we do. We don't got to, you got to, don't get disturbed and don't get, you know what I mean, don't let that shit bother you, crap. Yeah, they try to knock. It's only because you're on the radar, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Shout out the owner. radar, but we're on the radar. Let me ask you a question, right? Because I watched the grand finale of Raising Canaan. That's my favorite 50th show. Raising Canaan, the Power Universe. That's my favorite because they're playing,
Starting point is 00:59:52 you know, dude pulled up in the red Porsche, Papa Greg, nice, Craig, you and I see E, Dumbe, so. And I'm like, oh shit, like, it's that shit to me, right? But I was disappointed because I was used to somebody
Starting point is 01:00:08 big got to die every grand finale. Like, I was upset somebody real didn't die. Like, I don't think you know if they died or not. They always leave you. One thing, Fifth and the writers over there is good at. See, that's why this is a Jedi.
Starting point is 01:00:25 One of them is good. We don't know if nobody died or not. And they leave you, they leave you in suspense to next season. So you can be like, yo, I want that. And you're going to come watch the next series and then when they come back and intrigues you.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I do not want Marvin to die. Uncle Marvin, I do not want him to die. He's my favorite guy on TV. London. Shout out to my man. I fucking love this guy, his character. But I am going to tell you, in the real streets, real life, a guy like Marvin would die. Somebody who kill everybody, everything,
Starting point is 01:01:01 everything, they eventually get him out of here. That's why I was scared in the grand finale because I'm like, damn, going to take Marvin out because it's just a mad niggas with it died on that stick your niggins every you know what's killing this bad shit they do is no cops and anybody you ever knew
Starting point is 01:01:19 that was like that you knew he was out there robbing killing this this that somehow they caught the bad luck and got murder. We're going to segue off the guy in the red Porsche playing Greg Nights. That's where we're going to bounce off in. Synographer take all the hell of the shit cracks that off. Take that off the record.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Listen. It's a lot of Flojo was that time. I'm waiting to see if Flojo get in the next. I need to be on the next. Check me out. Slick Rick is about to release a new album called Victim. You know what I mean? First album since 1999, executive produced by Idris Elba.
Starting point is 01:01:57 That should be incredible. It's going to be a 30-minute film that accompanies the album. Nas is to appear on the album. What excites you about a new Slick Rick? Man, you know, Slick Rick got me, you know, I left my house when I was 14 years old. I couldn't get alone with my pops, rest of peace. My father was a good man, but we just ain't see how to eye. And so, though I was the leader of my class of most likely not to succeed at the 14 age group in my neighborhood and in the Bronx, right?
Starting point is 01:02:33 I still was scared because it's the first time I had to sleep in the crackhead hotel. by Cretona Avenue by Dodge High School. So that was the only place I could sleep. $35. They let me sleep. But they was really shooting heroin out the window, busing dudes heads with 40 bounces, bought bottles all day,
Starting point is 01:02:53 cops up and down. It was scary for a 14-year-old kid. I would listen to Slick Rick all night long on repeat. So I know all his adlems. He got me through that time of my life. I had to walk him, and I would just listen to Slick Rick only. Everything from the show to everything.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So the fact that he could come out now with an album and it's a visual album. I'm all in support of, you know, when it comes to music, music is art. And we do it from the heart. We got something to say. I just dropped the album a couple of months ago. The world changed on me.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I don't think you reach a certain age where you got to stop making music. She's been able to drop albums whenever you want. You got to drop album when you want. want to know what Slick Rick is thinking 2025. Like, what is Slick Rick thinking 2025? What he got to say?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Right? And so the thing about Slick Rick is like, hey, young world, yours, hey, young world. Young world. M.A. cross complainers. So while you're listening, learn it's still mom's welfare
Starting point is 01:04:03 gunned by dope and hey, little kids don't follow these dope. Definitely got to be one of the greatest storytellers ever in hip-hop. You say one of them? Yeah. I think he's the best ever, storyteller ever. Children's story, all that. I think, and I'm saying better than everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:23 And I know Big is the best storyteller. He got a story to tell. We got a couple. Nyes-Kee stories. Ice Cube, crazy stories. Kidding me. Today was a good day, probably the most perfect rap song ever lived. I'm talking about consistently.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Slick Rick was only doing story. Like, everything was a story with Slick Rick. And, you know, the thing about Slick Rick is no matter how tough he was or whatever, he always ended in a positive note somehow, right? He always a teenage love. Like, yo, let's don't hurt me again. Don't, don't hurt me again. That was a classic.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Listen, bro, let's Slick Rick. I was going downtown. What Slick word? Show over there. Check this out. Chuck D dropped a new album. I'm not mad at Chuck. The album addresses ageism and hip-hop. Rock embraces his elders, the Rolling Stones McCartney still touring in their 80s and get the same love they did in the 1960s.
Starting point is 01:05:26 But hip-hop elders do not get that same respect. Do you feel that the newer generation of hip-hop fans and artists do not respect those that came before them as much as the is the fans of other genres such as rock and roll. I don't know if it's just rock and roll. It's just we have a real disconnect between the youth paying homage to the OGs. And the truth is, I've always understood me, Coul and Dre, you talk in the studio, that they only respect the bag. So they're going to respect a Jay-Z because he's a billionaire.
Starting point is 01:06:00 They're going to respect a Jay to kiss because you stay fly every day. They're going to respect Fat Joe. They know he's getting to the bag. You're going to respect that motherfucking torpedo. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But what I'm saying to you, that torpedo bat, we got, like, hit somebody with a fucking torpedo. I got to catch somebody stealing or something.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I almost got arrested one time for beating up a crackhead for stealing my radio. No, I'm telling you the truth. Talk about the youth, man. They disrespect. No, I'm just saying, listen, the youth, they only respect the best. bag and this is a whole new culture of hip-hop music. Until it gets back to the beats and rhymes, they're never going to,
Starting point is 01:06:45 if it's just like one and done, or I made a cute song and I'm getting some money, I'm just getting to the bag, they're not going to respect their elders like that. In our generation, just last year, I'm driving down Manhattan. I see Melly Mell on the corner. I pull over one out.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Melly Mell, I make the movie. Oh, my God. My ain't you. the high con, like I do that. You know, I'm coming out, the movie theater. I look and I see Rob Bass. He's with his family. I'm like, oh, my God, Rob Bass,
Starting point is 01:07:18 and I give him my story. No, no, no. His son don't know because they're from old school era. They don't know. Your son get to see you still in your prime. But Rob Bass has been a minute since he had it on Smash, but I'll tell the son the story. I'm at the castle.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Rob Bates got the number one record in the country he's late to the show I watched a thousand people in the castle go no book Woo! Yeah! Woo! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:07:51 For about 20 minutes straight. Woo! Yeah, you couldn't hear a quarter hit the floor. And he came on stage and it was over. He killed that shit. It takes two. So I salute all the legends. One thing, if we go
Starting point is 01:08:06 back to Daddy's house and we go back to big recording you know I always saw the CD of the chronic every time I was in the studio with Biggie or
Starting point is 01:08:21 Puffy they always had the chronic CD up there like that's what we got to take out or that got to be that that was the level of quality and professionalism They kept it there, like a social security card.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Like, yo, if our shit don't sound better than that or on that level, we fucked. And so where do you rate an album like The Chronic? The Chronic is a piece of homework. It's a classic. It's something if you make an album, it's one of the albums you should listen to. It has nothing wrong. It has everything right on. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:09 The production, the skits, the song arrangements, the mixing, the, everything's perfect. Oh, man. If you're trying to set out to achieve the make an album like that, I think you should listen to that a few times. There's a few albums that Puff used to make us listen to them before we would make an album. What one of these albums? That was one of them, right? I think it was the chronic, it was 36 chambers.
Starting point is 01:09:35 It was the purple tape. It was one ice cube. It was an Ice Cube album. And there was something else he made us listen to. Man, I remember when we did, if we were in the end about the money, I don't really care, with Kanye, right? That time when Kanye was here,
Starting point is 01:09:56 making that album with the group, what's the group's name? Good music. That was the good music compilation. All I heard them here listening to, was Mar Deep and Wuchang. He just kept listening looking out the window in New York
Starting point is 01:10:12 listening to Mar Deep and Wuchang and that's when they came up with all of everybody remember that's that album was sick and he kept listening to the no music no music he would brag to you
Starting point is 01:10:26 like for us in New York shout a light on him that's our shit you know it at Will Traction shout out the wheel tracks shout out the light on him Like, that's, you ain't at a party if they ain't going to throw on the shine a light. Here's your birthday, shining a light on.
Starting point is 01:10:41 To us, we're normal, but other parts of the country. I don't understand that. Like, D.C. got go-go music. That's how, I don't want to say go-go music because then it's pause or whatever. New York shit, is that. But I would see Kanye West, who come from Chicago, mesmerized by the no music. He walked around all day doing that shit. We take it for granted, but to him, he thought it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, Harry saw. Check this out. EasyE to be resurrected through AI. EasyE son, Little EasyE is working on the AI project that will bring his father back for a movie project and possibly an album with his son. Do you think using AI in this way is good, or should the legacy of a legend like EasyE be left where it is? on that, because I'm going to go all the way. I like that. I take Joe Crack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Okay. That's new. And we got a new Fifth Amendment crack. I like that. We got a Fifth Amendment, you know. I only think they should use AI when it's necessary. And they might, for him, he won't want to do some things with his father. I think that's necessary.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I think Benny Siegel, AI made him sound back like Mac. How he been, you know what I mean? I like that. Him in the DOC. D-O-C, DMC, that can help, you know what I mean? So when you need it, I think we should use it. But, yeah, that kind of way I'm fall forward.
Starting point is 01:12:14 The other way, get that shit out of it. Yes. And so that's how I look at AI. When it's people like that, that it can benefit that we want to hear what they got to say to D-O-C. Jesus Christ. Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know.
Starting point is 01:12:37 It can't get no better than being Hella Black, Hella Queer, and Hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. A fully Black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcasts that explore society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Heller Christian, to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look. I think what I've had to make peace with
Starting point is 01:13:05 is that every iteration of my voice is given to me by God, and I love it. Books that validated our identity. The library now for me is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shells. And how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Listen to Hella Black, hella Queer, Hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll
Starting point is 01:13:51 explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all, childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles, and more. And, found the shrimp to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on the street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal.
Starting point is 01:14:16 He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis.
Starting point is 01:14:45 We were interns at the Nashville, Tennessee. But the most unforgettable part are roommate, Reggie Payne, from Oakland, sports editor and aspiring rapper. And his stage name, sexy sweat. In 2020, I had a simple idea. Let's find Reggie. We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone. In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode. His mom called 911.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Police cuffed him face down. He slipped into a coma and died. I'm like thanking you, but then I see, my son's not moving. No headlines, no outrage, just silence. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protection. their own. Listen to finding sexy sweat on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Sometimes it's hard to remember, but... Going through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of their life. That was my dad, reminding me and so many others who need to hear it, that our trauma is not our shame to carry, and that we have big, bold, and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co-president of this organization. Dr. Leitra Tate.
Starting point is 01:16:01 On my new podcast, The Unwanted Sorority, we weighed through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like, and sounds like in real time. Each week, I sit down with people who live through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls, mothering as resistance, and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space, so let's walk in. We're moving towards liberation.
Starting point is 01:16:30 together. Listen to the unwanted sorority, new episodes every Thursday, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys, why fight the time while you can rewind the time? Why look 53, why you can look 43? Why look 43? Why you can look 32? Because when you're in the 40s, it takes 12 back. But listen to what I'm saying is, shout out to the Connecticut. get Barber Expo, I was there Sunday with Norrie. You know, Norrie, boy, let me tell you said, this guy, he comes up in there. They got all the barbers from all around the world.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Shout out to all the barbers, man. You make me, I don't care if I got a deaf in the family. If I got a fresh cut, I feel fantastic. And so we went out there, we mixed it up with them in Connecticut, my man, Jay Majors. But let me tell you, some CVS Sally's. We're killing them. What about this coffee thing? Where can I find this coffee?
Starting point is 01:17:29 Kiss Cafe, baby. Kiss Cafe, the strongest. That shit got me electrified right now. Pumping it. If you get it on Kiss Cafe Coffee.com. That's Kiss Cafe Coffee.com. Get you some of that Bayjew. He's e-comers.
Starting point is 01:17:47 You know what I mean? It's that Kiss Cafe Bayjew, man. That's that Kiss Cafe, boy, let me tell you something. And so we could do it like this, entrepreneurship and hip-hop. Like, right? Because, you know, you, you. I don't know about you, but at one point of my life, I really depended on just doing shows.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I just thought that was the money. So that's all I thought about. And then I realized when I did the little four months in jail, I said, listen, man, you turn 40. When you get out there, you get to the bag. You got to open some up NYC's. You got to, you know, make a product.
Starting point is 01:18:24 You got to get you, you know, you got to be an entrepreneur. Who some of the guys you see? seen doing entrepreneurial shit. I just seen the cannabis shop about to open a shout out
Starting point is 01:18:33 dynasty commodities we got one in Harlem my brother rich player we got to go over there get high
Starting point is 01:18:38 but I've seen 145 145 in Broadway strains for life dispensory lounge opening real soon shout out to my
Starting point is 01:18:48 first grandma crack on 145 old mom my brother that's P that shit always been the mecca
Starting point is 01:18:54 145 in Broadway I bought my first grandma crack here we go again no I'm just what you want me to tell you
Starting point is 01:18:59 the truth. Here we go again. They're looking at. And we got the studio audience chiming in. Me too. Yo, yeah, yeah. I mean, what is he doing? Listen.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I used to buy from a Dominican called Mosquito out there. You go out there, yo, where's Mosquito? These guys are crazy. Listen, shout out the Morgan State University. My daughter just graduated. God bless you, Jay. You know what I mean? Let's talk positive.
Starting point is 01:19:22 My daughter graduated yesterday from Morgan State University. That's the second college graduate. I got two down, three. to go, but they got to do something about these graduations. They have them on the field. They're too hot. My mom's was, my mom's
Starting point is 01:19:39 had to, she had to go inside and get some AC. It's crazy. His other ladies passed out, it's fired, as Amman Lance is coming. It's too hot for the grandmothers and all that. Yeah, I agree. And shout out to the alumni and all that. It's mad
Starting point is 01:19:55 speeches. Why they want to do all these speeches in the middle of the damn hot sun why they can't do that the day before you know what I mean just call the names give out the summa cum laudees and magna loudies whatever the smart kids is
Starting point is 01:20:13 and get that shit all with we got to do a union that make college graduations shorter they too long the elder ladies is having heat strokes and all that of course every
Starting point is 01:20:29 want to see their kid graduate but they want to see their moms and pops pass out go to the hospital too yeah also so my next ones I figured it out though I'm going three hours late call me when they start calling the names when they get to about E I get out the car at about E then I'll catch my kids when they get to our last name because
Starting point is 01:20:53 this shit is ridiculous no no shout out the Morgan State everybody that graduating this week and you know I mean, in the coming days. Everybody graduates. Shout out the mortgage state. Shout out the Lehman. They gave me a doctorate last year. And I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:21:09 It was hot as hell out there. But you got to, they got a, it ain't some shit. They got to acknowledge the God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but it ain't something. I want one. Syracuse. I take Lehman.
Starting point is 01:21:21 I take Bronx community. I take the college that's right next door. We need the doctor chair. To the dispensy. It means anything. God damn me. He wants a doctorate, guys. You know, we got to talk for you.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Don Poo. Don Poo got a doctorate in Atlanta. I think, listen, I didn't even know what it was. Okay? Y'all want to know the truth. Ruben Diaz, Jr. said, yo, I want you to come to the college to talk to the kids.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I didn't even know I was getting a doctorate. He is my guy. He is my guy. And so I show up and they start explaining to me how special it is that I got a doctorate, that I got a dis. And I didn't even know. They were breaking it down to me. And I was like, oh, so I'm getting something.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I didn't even know I was getting something. I thought I was just there to talk to some students, congratulations, hallelujah, whatever the case may be. And so they gave me the doctorate. That's because you're that dude. I got to put your name in the raffle, but let me tell you something. Put my name in the raffle. They want to know, if you want to know why the dynamic, the energy is so legendary on this set.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I was trying to think, I said, damn, man, why is this podcast so good? And I said, I go, I relate back to, uh, let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. All right? Y'all don't want to hear me talk this shit. I'm going to tell you something, Jada. They did the 50 best dressed rappers. and Fat Joe wasn't mentioned.
Starting point is 01:22:56 And if I mentioned to you some of these things... He never mentioned... I hate the fucking miss, man. Well, you know how much money I spend on Cotor? Like, this shit is good. Yo, this is a fucking crying. You're going to rate the top 50th dress rappers and Fat Joe is not...
Starting point is 01:23:14 You know why? You're not having these guys dizzy. You don't got enough parking pine shirts and enough... I ain't got a piano on my back. You don't got this. I don't do that. You don't got enough, you don't got enough, like, shingles. You need shit hanging off.
Starting point is 01:23:30 You need shit. I mean, like, we take this shit serious. That's that dope boy shit we rock. But they don't put, that don't make the list. What I'm trying to tell you, if we don't brag about ourselves in real life, don't think when you die, they're going to talk about you. Because we're done. So they in our face.
Starting point is 01:23:48 The point thing that counts when you dies when they thought of you. You talk about the doctorate. You deserve a doctorate. You deserve a street. Yonkins. Let me give me. Jay DeKis Street. You deserve all of that.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Why we got to die to get it. And guess what? If I'm alive and it won't give it up, we got to say this shit. We got to be like, yo, we're number one in the country. It is what it is. Go Google to Apple because we are. Right?
Starting point is 01:24:11 I'm being honest with you. What you want me to do? Yeah, we need 800 more episodes. This ain't some shit fly by night. We do new kids on the block. We get some attention. But yeah, we need 300 more episodes. so we can really talk our shit.
Starting point is 01:24:25 You know, yesterday I'm with Norrie. He's throwing in, yo, the Glyssie eater. Did this, I know, all right, Norrie, you know, he's, he the godfather this shit. You know what I'm saying? Jane Champs, you know, we salute everybody doing their thing, but we got to talk about our wins, kids, because they're not, I'm looking at it myself. They're not trying to big us up for what we do in anything.
Starting point is 01:24:49 They're not going to big us up. We got to take our spot. humbly. You know what I'm saying? This week in hip-hop history. Boy, hold up. We got to get back to the regular schedule. When they see me and you, they got to think,
Starting point is 01:25:02 yesterday's price. It's not today's price. Yesterday's price. It's not. Yo, come on, man. What do you want me to do? This week in hip-hop history, y'all. May 19th, man.
Starting point is 01:25:17 DMX dropped in 1998. The dog... Always love for the dark. 1998, he dropped his debut album, his dark and hell is high. The importance of that album to me is that, you know, he put us on. He came and got us, put us, bought us with Rough Riders, told him, this is, we starting it off like, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:43 this who I want to represent with me. And the rest was history. To see where we came from, to see where he came from, he was already. They're in there like Bruce Springsteen and Y.O. We already looked at him as like a rock star. Then fast forward, him being the only or one of the only rappers that ever do would stop.
Starting point is 01:26:07 That shit is crazy. You know what I mean? That video tape forever. Will forever mean the world to me because, you know what I mean? He gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation. You know, DMX stuck a guy up right in front of. to me.
Starting point is 01:26:23 DMX stuck a lot of niggas. DMX. No, but he was already a star. Oh, he did it after he was X? Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Oh shit. It's me, him and pun in the gas station in Brooklyn. After a show, thousands of people after the show, we in the gas station
Starting point is 01:26:39 dude comes with some chains and DMX. Like, yo, hold up, y'all. He went and took his chains, came back and started talking to us in the gas station.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Yo, DMX. He can't get indicted. He did, so. No, no, no, no. He's done. dead i'm not i'm just telling you a true story like i got so many t ms you might have we got filter some of these stories you i'm telling you you might have you gotta have incredible i don't i'm not telling you none of them kind the crazy since we go i gotta give a punch story
Starting point is 01:27:09 look when we shot the john blaze video dmx showed up no listen this is how long ago it was and this how crazy this was when stashboxes first got invented He wanted to test his shit out. It was more before that, but get ahead. In the 80s, we had Stash. They wasn't doing what the shits was doing as a technology evolved. He wanted to show you the Stash, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:37 He wanted to test his own shit out. He drove. Somebody was driving. He was in the passenger. Let off a four, I don't know what it was. That da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And wanted to get pulled over. and got pulled over
Starting point is 01:27:54 and I said this thing is nuts though he is nuts though he is nuts that was the crazy he put it in the stash yeah he had enough
Starting point is 01:28:03 in front of the cops let it off pull a block a dude pull over I don't know what you're talking about officer
Starting point is 01:28:09 and they ain't have the shit to make it pop out yet so he was I said this thing a pun is crazy I just had the bins
Starting point is 01:28:17 the way to explain it to you the way to explain it to you bike is You know how somebody could be a genius in something and then in just common sense? He just don't know what he's like. I would go to his house, right?
Starting point is 01:28:34 And he would have about 30, 40 guns in this house. If you sat in a pillow, it was a gun, you put your hand on the chicken, it was a gun, you hit it. It was just, and I would sit there because I really came from the streets. I know what Rico indictments are. indictments are i know what all this is i don't came from all i'd be like they're gonna make a jail just for you buddy no they don't lock rappers up like that they got swimming pools for rappers and all that they're tennis courts i'm like yo he's thinking about the futuristic feds what and i would tell him like you're pun you're crazy bro then i go around his hood and the cops
Starting point is 01:29:14 pull me over like this pump one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood even till died. He refused to move out the hood. I was already in Jersey like, yo, come a jersey. Birds are chirping. You know, he, nah, I'm in the hood. I'm the realist. Pun at the crib in the hood, Tim Benz's. Exotic $20,000 dogs
Starting point is 01:29:36 and all type of shit. Like, he was big pun double platinum in the hood. He didn't care. And so I would go to his hood and as a respected elder brother, the police pulled me on. I'm like your officer. Why are you putting, yo, Joe, man, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:53 you got to stop throwing eggs at the old ladies in front of the supermarket. You know, we know he's the only guy with the bends with the water guns shooting the old ladies. I'm like, yo, I go in this house. I start arguing with everybody in the house. Like, yo, punt, they're going to put you in jail. You're shooting the water guns at the old ladies.
Starting point is 01:30:15 They know the only guy with the 500 bends in the fucking sound. you it's you punt you're going now he just didn't he he uh he would go real from genius to common sense no sense like i had a real struggle with him and norrie because norrie's also my little brother when they was together they was trained them two together is nuts oh they used to see me and be like yo joe's the fun killer he's the fun killer no i don't want you to go to jail and not get to the back like i know what's going on out here, you guys are too crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Thank God we ain't have IG back then. I'll tell you a quick story. We had this joint like this. Two days ago was hot in New York. I'm outside of rich players, the Dynasty Commodagh, the Wee's spot.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Spenceery, Spentry. Right, dispensary. Cock Diesel, little Spanish dude is walking through with the tank top like this. Right? I try to look away, I already know. He makes a U-turn.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Yo, Joe, you got me through my beard. I did 26 years, this, this, that. One thing I could tell you, before I was a tough guy, when I was five years old, I always knew the guys who just came home from jail. How the hell you knew that? No, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:31:40 No, five, you know, these guys got tank tops, and they walk in light, you know, they strutting around the thing. I knew this guy just came out of jail. It had to be the same way. You know they come in a seat, come from the park. You know they come over five years old. I knew that man came home from jail.
Starting point is 01:31:57 And it's preferably just before the summer. They're coming out with a tank top and all that. Well, anyway, he did it. I grabbed him so fast. I hugged him. Yo, thank you. I said, you see that? There's a camera in the store.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I walked with him two more steps. You see that? It's a camera. I walked with them two more steps. You see that? It's a camera. I'm not exaggerate. When you come to richest joint,
Starting point is 01:32:20 I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you how I walk them. Maybe you're halfway to the corner. We passed 10 cameras. I said, brother, can't do nothing no more. You're going to jail. Look at this. We're on camera.
Starting point is 01:32:33 That's what Fat Joe's going to tell you after 26 years. You take that with you if you want. You're not getting away because he's walking down. And now he's in the black haul. He's Puerto Rican. He just wanted to smoke. I'm just trying to let him know. You're on camera, B.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I don't give a hell what, what the hand skills you learned in jail. You're going back to jail. You know the 52, man. Yeah, he's coming through with the, I said, your brother, really politely. Look, look, look, look. Look, it's crazy because Remy came to the thing and I told her that story before. And I said, let me show you this story. She said, what you mean?
Starting point is 01:33:09 She came the other day to Richard's Joint. I walked her four stores down and there was 10 cameras. This saw us. I said, yo, you can't do nothing. You can't do nothing Kids Somebody will still be stupid And trying
Starting point is 01:33:24 Somebody still try some dumb shit Kids If you shoot the place You're on camera You're not getting away with it You're done Gone 20 years your life You're not a very violent
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