Joe and Jada - Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on squashing 50 Cent beef, Eminem's first NYC show & Big Pun joining Terror Squad

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss dig in the crates and share some legendary stories from their come up in New York City. They share memorable moments like witnessing Eminem for the first time when he opened for J...oe and Big Pun, the full story behind Pun joining Terror Squad, a young Jadakiss accidentally attending an unbelievable block party with Run-D.M.C., Rappin' Duke, and The Fat Boys, Joe and 50 Cent squashing their beef, Big Daddy Kane introducing the world to Jay-Z, and the battle between LL Cool J and Canibus. Along with the stories about hip hop legends, Joe and Jada share some wild stories from their teenage years in NYC, from causing chaos on Halloween night to an unreal confrontation between the Bronx and Brooklyn at a March of Dimes event. They finish off the show by picking their top-five posse cuts, including LL's "I Shot Ya (Remix)" and Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear (Remix)." 05:00 - Suge Knight's place in hip hop history 12:30 - Jada attending AMAZING Run-D.M.C. block party 17:15 - Eminem opening for Joe & Big Pun 25:30 - Big Pun joining Terror Squad 35:30 - Throwback stories from their NYC blocks 1:03:15 - Top 5 posse cuts 1:12:30 - Joe squashing 50 Cent beef Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano return to headline the most decorated boxing card in history, featuring 9 world champions and 21 titles on the line. Streaming LIVE Friday, July 11 on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/82035642#Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 You know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen the M&M. They was holling him by the back of his T-shirt so he don't fly off the stage. He was just spitting so crazy, a man punt. We all looking at each other like, oh my God, who's this white boy? That boy, crazy. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all. This is Joe Crack to Dawn. It's your boy, Jada.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show, man. What's up, y'all? Yo, Jada, you got that fly shit on. That's what you got, bro. You got to stop fucking playing. You bought that baby pastel out. You know what I'm saying? That Valenciaga.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That mint. That mint. That mint. Chalkly chipped mint. Pepper mint. Let me tell you something, boy. He threw that shit on, you know? Hip hop at his finest.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I've been in the game professionally, I would say, 33 years. How many years have you been in the game? 20-something. 20-something. And people don't understand. I got an ill story with you. You didn't even know about. No.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I had an ill story. I might have saved you and you ain't know it. Right? It was one time I never forget. We had a show in Chicago. And then Chicago has said, anybody come from out of town, we robbing them. You don't remember that shit?
Starting point is 00:03:53 At one time, they was, I could tell you who it was. But you was dead. When I walked in, Jay DeKitts was already there. I walked in with extra jury. I went out there. You know, I got a hole. Oh, I do remember. We had a show.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We had a show one time in the shot. Remember that. And that shit was, I don't know if you knew that what was going on behind the scenes. It really was nothing to do with us. It just, it was so on it. We landed on Plymouth Friott. Yes. Yes, we landed on Plymouth Frock.
Starting point is 00:04:26 They had to pimp with them. the machine gun under the fucking... He was like on the wheelchair. His shit got real crazy out there. And I remember I seen... And the guys from Chicago, salute, who was threatening everybody. They was the first guys I saw when I walked in.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I had the stupid... I wore an extra jury because they was like, yo, anybody coming here, we robbing them? Streets was like, yo, I went over there with the dumb jury that day. But, you know, I got the crazy... You know, I got the crazy crew in Chicago, too. They seen the seven-headed swordsmen's that never come out in the house.
Starting point is 00:05:03 They was like, aye, this guy came in. But, you know, thinking of terrifying events, you know, really makes me think of one guy. There's a historical figure in hip-hop. And now that the man blind, he in jail, lost all his money. People like use his names and raps and all that. But when Shug Knight had $300 million, they were terrified of this man. Shug was shaking shit up. He was shaking shit.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Shaken or super shaken? He was shaking shit. The man goes, I don't know, right? Because the theory is, I forget what movie it was. I think it was Bronx there where he said, I'd rather be feared than love. I used it in my shot you, right? I'd rather be feared than love. Do you truly rather be feared than love in real life?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Because this man was so feared that I don't know if I would feel good about myself. You know, I went to an award show one time, and I ain't going to talk about the Vibe Awards. That was the, that was the craziest shit. I was there. That's one of the first awards I ever got. The Vibe Award. You was there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:22 When Shugnight walked in. by himself. He scared the whole place with a cigar. You want to talk about that? Alicia Keys running back. You know, she pulled me to the side. Because I told this story before, she was like, yo, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I was like, you know, I worship you, Alicia. But you did run past me with the red dress. Like, you know, Russell's seven, all he did was walk in. Everybody ran out the whole shit. There was no violence yet. Everybody was running. Swiss was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:06:53 She don't appreciate how you put in the store. I said, no, she's my sister. And I worship her, but she ran right past me with the red gown on. Like Russell Simmons was tumbling over. Like, it was like the Great White Shock was in the building. They just let him out of jail. He walked in his, he didn't have a gun. His shit was a cigar.
Starting point is 00:07:12 He was like this. The whole fucking awards. And I wasn't even talking about that because I don't want to go into that one. Right? But matter of fact, I felt, right, because I'm only there. with my wife I think I'm there with Armaged and Tony
Starting point is 00:07:26 I wasn't there with the goons but it felt like saving private Ryan or something like when you see the guy in the middle of a war zone and somebody's standing there
Starting point is 00:07:36 and everybody's running getting it like I'm standing there I see Norrie stood there and it's just everybody was running for no way there's before the violence this is like the minute
Starting point is 00:07:50 they saw him I'm at a I'm talking about a whole other time I'm at a BET Award a summer. Then we go to the after they got the restaurant that's open. Got a thousand people in there. The whole industry. I'm not just talking about rappers.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Was in there talking. It was loud. It was this. Next thing I know the whole restaurant is quiet. And I turn around. The whole restaurant emptied out. It was us eating. And Shug Knight sat down in the table right next to us.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Him just walking in the restaurant. The whole restaurant ran out the restaurant. Like, it was like they were so shook of this dude. Everybody out there that, you know, I just, he was like, what up? For some reason, he would call me all the time, big homie. What up, big homie? I'm like, yo, what's up? Yo, this sat down.
Starting point is 00:08:42 We ate our food. We left and people were just terrified of him on site. I'll tell you this story that Koolandre told me. Right? So Koolandre super produces. my brothers, Territ Squad, they went to L.A. for a BMI Award. And when they went to L.A. for the BMI Award,
Starting point is 00:09:03 there was a line going in. So they stood on line thinking that's the line to go in. So all of our favorite rappers and producers and all that was on that line. As they were going in close and closer, they realized at the front of the line was Shug Night. and everybody was taking off their earrings politely,
Starting point is 00:09:28 their chains, their watches, just... No way. Okay. Okay. You know Koolandre, they're telling you, and I'm talking about, yo, listen, Kiss, famous friends of ours you would never believe was on that line. Famous friends was voluntarily on that line running the Jews.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And so the line, wasn't to the front door, it was aligned to Shug Knight. Give me your jury. So Kool and Dre looking, they're like, you know, they'll tell you, they're not gangstice. They were like, okay, we figured we'd get robbed. They got the T.S. chains on at Rolex. They go up to the front, Shugnay.
Starting point is 00:10:08 He's like, each of them producers guys with Joey. And then he was like, yeah, you know, Kool and Dre. They was like, yo, you tell a big homie, man, this all love, this and that, just walk in, this, this. So they almost felt like they almost wanted to get robbed with everybody else because everybody else was looking at them
Starting point is 00:10:25 like the fix was in like they was down with the shit yo I'm telling you had any run-ins with Shug Night did he try to like say
Starting point is 00:10:34 yo can I sign you with some shit because Shug called Shik mom's crib when we was in like when we was young right before
Starting point is 00:10:43 right when the bad boy deal was on the table or before you signed the bad boy he heard that you were signing somebody somehow he heard and we was in Sheik's crib
Starting point is 00:10:55 watching video music box and Shug called his crib and Luch must have been like Hold on coming, yo his fucking Shug on the phone so he's like, what? And he like, I remember they said, yo, we want to sign.
Starting point is 00:11:13 They never even heard us. They just must have, because Puff was about to sign us so he's like, yo, y'all can get on a red eye at night with how many people, however many people you want to come over there with I could fly out at night we thought about it but it was like we can't do that
Starting point is 00:11:31 it wouldn't have been when it was all said and done it wouldn't have been a good look it wouldn't have might have worked for the men but it probably wouldn't have worked overall for the, you know what I mean? You got to represent over there.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You're absolutely right, you know. But then after I got on at the, you know, man, in the game, popping. Everywhere I would come, he would, it's like, as soon as I get my bags from baggage claim, they was calling him. And everywhere I had to be, he was popping up.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You know what I'm saying? He wasn't on no shit. He was just, he was just everywhere I was at. But it wasn't, he wasn't on, he wasn't, he wasn't on no type of time. Definitely was. I think he already had a relationship with D and him, so he knew, he knew how I was going to go down.
Starting point is 00:12:20 He did have a relationship with D. Yeah, yeah, he was, he had a relationship with him. Yeah, he did. And he was cool with Irv, too. He was cool with a couple of people. Pistled Pee was hanging out in L.A. with him everywhere. Yo, these guys, this is crazy, man. These guys hang out together, right?
Starting point is 00:12:39 This shit is nuts. But I think about when we talk about hip-hop, right? And, you know, I come from the birthplace. So when I try to explain to people, when we go into this, yeah, but yo, yo, Jada, it's not my fault. I'm born there, right? So when you, you Muslim, you look at the Mecca where they're walking around the shit.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's not my fault. I'm from that place. Melly Meli Mel lived in my neighborhood. Grandmaster Flash live in my neighborhood. Shah Rock, first female MC in my neighborhood, Little Rodney C. Ruby D. the first Latino MC ever live in my neighborhood. Lovebuck Starsky lived in my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:13:19 All these guys lived in my neighborhood Mr. Ness. So I'm from the birthplace. So when I talk in my shit, it's kind of hard to argue with me because I'm actually there. Like, as a little kid, when they see me, they go Little Joey.
Starting point is 00:13:37 That's Angels brother, Little Joey. Smack me on the head. Yo, I keep it moving. It's like, that's how I grew up in hip-hop. But I think about, I remember the first time I ever saw KRS 1 was in Cortland Projects a shoutout Sadat X
Starting point is 00:13:53 and he had, he was this skinny he had this Bob Marley shirt on T-shirt with the fucking roster hat. He did the South Bronx. I was mesmerized this before we even heard it. By the second time he did it, the whole
Starting point is 00:14:08 fucking jam was going South Braw South Rock, South, we knew the song the second time he did it one time by the second it was it was pandemonious right um i'm thinking of who do you see perform for like the very first time that you seen them ever perform one time when i was little my moms came and snatched me off the block that's how i always like to say my moms is responsible for my hip-hop career one time late 80s i'm chilling on the block we're playing high water low water
Starting point is 00:14:46 when you got to jump over the rope and they keep raising. So it's the whole block of summer day. You know, a day, a summer day in New York is better than anywhere. That's a fair. The whole block is playing, is lit, it's beautiful. My mom's come, get in the car. Me. Now, when they get in the car, we have a best time.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Boy, get in. Now I'm tight. And she's like, you're a couple of your men could come and ask their moms. Get in. She brought me to Mount Vernon, Memorial Field. Open the car door, say, yo, when you get, at this time, meet me back here at the car. I get in, I get in the field.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It's the fucking fat boys. Steggumato. Shit was crazy, though. I'm like, yeah, how the hell did she? Then it was fat boys. It was rapping Duke. Then run DMC. The hot or hot.
Starting point is 00:15:44 That shit was crazy, dog. Run DMC. And boys rapping duke in the park. The best that shit was, I'm like, how the fuck? It was no grammar, none. It was no, it was barely newspapers, ma'am. I'm like, who gave my mom the call that this shit was, and that shit would probably change my life right there.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You know, me and my brother, you know, my uncle Angel, you know, he's a pastor now and all that. But he had promised us he was going to take us to that concert in Madison Square Garden that run DMC. The one they say everybody put up the Adidas in the air. Fresh Fest. We waited for him in front of the building. Like, yo, let me tell you stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:25 When you see these movies of kids waiting for their father to come and their father never come, when I tell you, me and my brother was looking at every fucking headlight coming up the block hoping my uncle came. He never came? Nah, he never came. And you know what? My uncle angel, he wasn't even like hip-hop like that. So I believe them. We sat in front of the projects, waiting for hours.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And then all you can hear is the legendary stories of our motherfucking lift up only Adidas and all that. But maybe we was too young. That shit also got, you know, people always like to say, yo, hip hop started peaceful. But every block party I went to, somebody pulled out a shotgun and robbed the whole park. Or started a stampede. Or starting a stampede. Right. So even at First Fest, no matter everything that happened, they said, Brooklyn's in the house.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Like, you know, like, they were like, you know, it was going down in that motherfucker. They was throwing dudes over the whole shit. So when it comes to first, you know, I was there the first time in New York City, we ever seen Eminem. And so he opened up for me and pun at the lyricist lounge, the outsiders, group out of New Jersey. they brought him out and this man was, you knew he was special and all of me, dudes got
Starting point is 00:17:50 Drenlocks and all that and he was so skinny they was holding him by the back of his t-shirt so he don't fly off the stage he was just spitting so crazy and me and Pum we all looking at each other like, oh my God, who's this white boy? This boy, that boy crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:07 You know, I was at this thing called Zodiac 2 I used to go to over there to sit at High Bridge now. And so we used to go to that club all the time. And I was there the first time I saw Biz Marquis bring up Big Daddy King. Big Daddy King had the roster, had Kango to the side, right?
Starting point is 00:18:27 And this is when hip-hop was hip-hop to where you could have been tough if you wanted to be tough, but it was really about loving the hip-hop moment. So, you know, guys had the Ben-A-Tong bags and all that. shit and when that man said big daddy came went up there it's like he was like supercalifragilus the guest for you i look gosius i literally seen dudes trying to run up the wall like defy gravity this one used to be like oh oh and you whiling and shit like that man you know i was there when big daddy cane brought out j z for the first time it was in manhattan big daddy came brought
Starting point is 00:19:08 them out. And Jay-Z started spitting. And you knew he was special because at the time, Jay-Z wore the, I mean, the Big Daddy King wore the crown. For him to bring a young boy out there in Manhattan to get that boy to spit.
Starting point is 00:19:24 You know, so you, you know, there was things like that that was legendary to me, of who I said, of course I seen Finesse bring out big hell for the first time. You know, Finesse had, like, your fans.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Okay, so Finesse had fans that would just go, they didn't even want to hear the beat. They didn't hear they just wanted to go, oh! I want to hear the lyrics. Oh! And the fans almost lined themselves up.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They'd be in the crowd lining themselves up just to chair. They'd be like, Lord Finesse is the man that you got to hear. So they just keep going. That was his fan, and so when Big Hell came out there and started spitting with Fennesse, I was out there in the first show. It was uptown.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It was like, that's considered Dominican land now for Marble Hill and all that. That was the first time Finesse brought him out. It's going down Friday, July 11th, Netflix, and most valuable promotions are bringing the fight the whole world's been waiting for. Yo, one and two is legendary, if number three is anything, like one and two? The trilogy, baby. Check it out. Katie Taylor is chasing ultimate glory. Amanda Serrano is fighting for redemption and revenge.
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Starting point is 00:26:24 yo yo let me go to it now I know I was set up at that time I thought it was like God a miracle or some shit. Now I know Big Punt set me up. Like he came to my block to rhyme and he was like, his whole intention was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:26:38 let's see if that Joe listens to us. So I'm coming from the store, they got a couple of dudes freestyle and they go, yo, yo, yeah, let me go. He's already semi big. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:49 So then he do that. Oh, it's just the early bays. Snatched the moon out of the sky. and blow the sun away. Me and my niggas playing hardcore, hardcore lyrics till I was like, no. Stop.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I did the J-da. Whoa. Stop! No! I had the Lexus 400, the big boy. I opened that door like concierge. The man came up in there and sat down. The whole shit went down.
Starting point is 00:27:29 and his crew, they look so sad because it was a group. They looked so sad because he was the only one I put in the car. But I pointed at them and I said, your pun, don't worry we're going to put them on. You got to worry about you right now.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I'm going to bust you out. You're going to blow up and then you put your man's on. You know what I'm saying? He was like, I, word, word, word. And then we just cruised. He told me his whole life story. That's all, you know what's crazy is.
Starting point is 00:27:58 puns on me his life story, right? So I come from selling drugs, dealing with the wildest animals you ever dealt with. It did complete treason of, uh, treason, fucking, what, betrayal, robbers, just people you just can't trust. So I couldn't believe that he was telling me his real life story the first second I ever met him, he got in the car. One deal he made with me.
Starting point is 00:28:28 said, yo, man. He said, so Trump was like this real, live, real nigger, but that never really had a crew, a Pistalleros. He didn't have a crew. I had an army since I was in kindergarten, bro. I'm telling you. I got a story. He rests in peace. Fuente, Julio Fonte, my barber for many years. He said, I was five years old. I walked to his barbershop with 20 kids. And he said, he was like, yo, I can't cut your head with these 20 kids. And he said that I told them all to go outside and wait for me. And they all went outside. And that's when my barber, Julio Fentes, told me, I knew you were the leader.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I knew you were going to run this shit. You was five years old telling 20 guys wait outside, right? So, pun, the point I'm making is, pun says, is those terrorist squad? Is that going to be my crew? I said, yes. I knew, listen, I'm such a fan, kids, Eminem, Nas, G-Rap. I know, I've studied hip-hop so much. I knew I found the illest thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I was like, yes. He says, so they're going to do what I say? I said, they're going to love you. They're going to do whatever you say. Oh, I'm in. I'm in. He's like, he always wanted that army with him, right? And sure enough, to this day, they lure you to them.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So when we drive out to your ill stories, He said, pun tells me a story. He was homeless. Nobody. He wanted to show his family, his bloodline, his DNA, that he wasn't going to be a piece of shit. They always told me he was going to be a piece of shit. He's telling me this the first minute I met him. I never seen vulnerability like that.
Starting point is 00:30:10 But then he tells me this one story. He says, man, I want to impress my uncle. So I'm saying, your uncle? He was like, yeah, man. He said, I got an uncle. He's really rich. He said, and one day I went to him. him and told him I was hungry and he went in my hand and he gave me a bunch of rocks rocks
Starting point is 00:30:32 like rocks and told him eat that so pun is like yo my uncle's rich I told him I was hungry he put rocks in my hand and told me to eat that so long story short successful first Latino double platinum filthy rich now let me explain big pun to you big Big Punn had 10 Benz's and Beemers in front of it. He wouldn't leave out the hood. I was begging him. I was already in church. I'm already hearing birds chirping little kids playing hockey in front of the shit.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I'm gone. Like, he's still in the soft bronx. He's still, not the soft brown. He's sound view. Everybody know 10 benches. He had a limousine on 24-hour hold. 365 days. He had a guy, a limousine with a driver, just sitting in front of the crib.
Starting point is 00:31:24 24 hours a day, right? Little dogs, if he had a fur, kids had furs, they even got the furs for the dogs. And the dogs was from like Europe or some, he was the true pedestrian of blowing a bag, big pun. He couldn't hold on the money. He was just going crazy. You know, he went. He probably
Starting point is 00:31:46 was the first rapper with three Rolex watches on. Like, this guy was out of control with it, right? So, pun, unfortunately, passes away we do the funeral right so i rent this big ass funeral in the bronx we get people to put the whole family's there so you know how they do the you see the body before everybody long story short as family's there we all crying everybody's crying so the door opens and the man walks it now see the whole family jump up like oh like they saw a savior some shit right it's pun's bodies right I'm just saying I'm looking at
Starting point is 00:32:25 oh they was acting like that you already know what that is I come from where my uncle was rich my uncle failure from all a number spots they seen the guy with the bag they all jumped oh right so he walks in and he says hi to the family you know what he says to me he says
Starting point is 00:32:41 yo what is this guy doing here meanwhile I pay for the whole fucking funeral my nigga like everybody knows it's Joe and pun that's like looking at styles of Jada like what are they doing here so I'm sitting there like this. He says, what is this guy doing to his family? And his family
Starting point is 00:32:58 is like, no, no, no, no, no. For multiple reasons, Joe paid and Joe will fuck me up. Like, you're playing a terrible game right now. Wrong one, huh? Yeah, you might get you might go early downstairs. You don't want that shit, right? So
Starting point is 00:33:13 the man turned around and do that to me and I say, yo, I know who you is. He was like, oh, you know who I am? I said, yeah, I said, you you're the uncle, the rich uncle. First five minutes I met, punt. He told me how much of a piece of shit you was
Starting point is 00:33:31 and how he told you he was hungry and you gave him rocks. I said, let me tell you something, man. Welcome, I paid for all this. And number two is your family's about to tell you, we will beat the living shit out of you right here now and they'll drag you out the back of this shit. He shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Right? As he shouldn't. No, no. shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral, and, you know, it is what it is. I'm, you know, but anyway, that funeral, I'm sure you guys came through, Puff came through, Little Kim, Mac10 flew in, TLC, you know, it was so crazy because, you know how you get the flowers in the funeral, I'm reading the flowers. So the flowers is like sent by Eminem.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Eminem might have sent seven flowers for the Big Pond funeral. Whitney Houston send like seven flowers. Like these people we never met. This is like you got to go to the Grammy to meet all these people and all the stars from all over
Starting point is 00:34:38 were sending flowers and I'm reading it and I couldn't believe it. Like TLC, T-Bars walked up in there. Everybody, they had so much respect for him. I remember the Biggie funeral you know what I'm saying? I went to Brooklyn in front of his old crib
Starting point is 00:34:56 and I just was out there in the streets where you see the video of the streets of everybody wilded because I pulled up in front of the funeral and I just felt like I didn't want to see big like that but I was across the street from the Frankie Campbell.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You went to the big funeral? Yeah, I went to. You had to be sad, huh? Hell yeah. I mean, I was that shit was traumatizing for it. for us. You know, that was our first time in L.A. when that shit happened with him. So that wasn't. And we made, we always love Big Papa.
Starting point is 00:35:32 They played that. They actually played in the funeral. They played it for the mafia and his family. And that's we only made it for that. We never made it to be released. We only made it to play for them. I mean, then all end up releasing it with missing you and all. Yeah, that shit was it. Hip-hop. What made you get in the game? What let you know this is the reason you picking up a mic
Starting point is 00:36:01 or you writing, you know, on your paper? For me, when I was little, I was always breakdancing, doing shit. I was known on the block as the little. I just was intrigued by hip-hop. In my uncle's room, like I said, listening to the Ferriest Five. and they've still have park jams in y-o i was sneaking and all of them joints one time i went all the way across town to black heritage day when i was little my mom's going to whip my ass but she saw that i love hip-hop so much i ain't i ain't get in trouble but i should have got
Starting point is 00:36:41 how far i went and how young i was i could have been dead right now hip-hop saved my life for real you could say. She was going to kill me. I was just sitting on the fucking hill looking at the naked's performing. And what I say is that that's similar to me. I remember the first time I heard Eric Bien
Starting point is 00:37:03 Rockin with the don't a don't know and we went to the what's called now where A. Bougney and them is from. Right? But at that time, it was on University Avenue. we had to take like two, three trains
Starting point is 00:37:21 from the five and two to the four. And then you get off at Burnside and you got to walk up that big ass hill. Burnside. There's one thing you drive that hill. You walk that motherfucker? Oh my God. Like, it felt like the warriors when you, like.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And so we on the other side, it's almost like being in California, you know, from where I'm from. At that time, no car, we're taking trains for hours. And that's where we saw the Wop for the first time. And they was playing that shit, boom, but on them. And back in the days, you know, and we studying them and we're trying to do the dance.
Starting point is 00:38:02 We took that bitch back home. That next day we went to the Park Jam. They threw on that Eric B and Rock Kim, and we started doing the Watt. Everybody started studying the Watt. I mean, you know, back in that day, it was more word of me. mouth.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah, so only way it can is word of mouth or the phone with the spin back. That made me think of an ill story, right? And so part of being a great storyteller is you tell your wins and you tell your losses. You know what I'm saying? You've got to be able to, you know, you got to have the people tune in where they feel like they're there, right? So, I come from a project called Guardsville. Right. So also, it was like the Mecca of the 5%ists.
Starting point is 00:38:58 So everyone, I was the guard, Crack Kim, great God Allah. Yo, yo, yo, yo, I'm telling you what it is, right? Crack Kim is crazy. You got to, you got to think, you got to think, you got to think. What is this? Listen. Yo, you got to think, there's no other way to do it. You got to think, y'all, everybody go check out this movie back in the day is called Fresh.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You got to think Chuck. Remember, Fresh, what's the funky dope move? But think Chuckie from Fresh. You live in Dawson Ferry right now. We found it. Yeah, because I ain't, my man, my man that's in Fresh, he used to work out with us. He moved to Cali now, but when we got. I got to meet him.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I got to meet him. I got to meet him. We didn't meet him. We just found him. He said, Dawes Ferry. Also, you ain't Chuckie. If he watched this show, come on. I got to meet Chuckie. So Fadjo is Chuckie for friends.
Starting point is 00:39:55 There's no way around. In real life, that's what he was. The fucking, yo, punishes. We bust the stupid. That was just Joe. Always the guy starting to trouble, always getting in trouble. Always trying to do too much. Always trying to, you know, while out just every fucking time.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Right? And so I grew up, my projects, 90% black, 10% Puerto Rican. It is what it is. So the gods being there, and I'm Chuckie for fresh. Like, yo, get the fuck up out of you. They're building, trying to do the site for I'm saying ham, salemmy, and bacon. Or I'm fucking with everybody, right? So you got the guards from Section 5 Corp City, Patterson projects.
Starting point is 00:40:38 All the guards know, they come to my projects, is the Mecca, Garsville. And he was the little, I was the annoying fat Puerto Rican nigga that were fucked with everybody. He said, yo, you ain't God body, but you know you're being witness, God. The God, yeah, I'm the God crack camp. Great God Allah, y'all knows, right?
Starting point is 00:40:58 So if you want the picture, this is what it is, right? So now they have some shit in Manhattan. Right? They had some shit in Manhattan. I'm going to tell y'all true story. Don't get mad at me, Bronx. they had this shit called March of Dine.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I remember the March Dine. Lori shouldn't even listen to this story because this was like, you know, March of Dime was raising money and this. Yeah, the thing with the change in the, remember? But at the end, just before you go to the ferry to Staten Island, whatever that is, battery, whatever that shit is down there. So one day we said, because Brooklyn used to be there deep,
Starting point is 00:41:37 so one day we told the whole entire, Bronx, the whole entire Bronx that we're going down there. That I ain't going to line. You say they was 20, 30, 40,000 black dudes. They had one fat
Starting point is 00:41:55 Spanish nigger. I was, you might as well say I was surfing on the, on the trick. You ain't able to stop. The B-A-X, nigga, the cell, bro. I'm like, Chuckie from Fresh. I'm like on
Starting point is 00:42:09 10,000, right? So we get out, every train, it was like the Warriors, was just thousands, hundreds of guys from the Bronx, from Co-op City,
Starting point is 00:42:22 the Valley, all the way down to Patterson, I mean, everybody got the memo. We're going down there, right? So we get out
Starting point is 00:42:33 the train and Battery Park. South Bronx, South, South Brown, South Bronx. I mean, thousands of us, right? South Bronx, right? Next thing you know, as we're getting closer to the park,
Starting point is 00:42:47 I start hearing like, South Bronx, South, South Bronx, South Bronx, South Bronx, South, South. And I'm still like, yeah, South, wrong, South. And, man, we get to this park. And what I don't think we relied on is people having cousins in Brooklyn, right? So they must have told Brooklyn the Bronx was coming out there.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Geographically, Brooklyn is like seven times bigger than the Bronx. If we had 20,000, they had 100,000. Brooklyn in the house. Brooklyn. And then I ain't going to lie. The base in the Bronx voice really told, man, we got it popping instantly. It was just the Bronx against Brooklyn. We're fighting all over.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I see all these guys who I thought was the toughest guys getting hit. They would hit you with the fucking Frank for the man. The Frank for the truck. They pounding you out. They threw the whole guy. They throw the whole fucking truck on you. Like, this shit was bad out there. Like, yo, we was taking a beat.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I just see a niggins. Everybody's getting, we fight. Of course we got, you know, Brown's got the realists. You know, we out there fighting thousands people. I'll tell you one thing. I'm sure there was some other Puerto Ricans but man it was scarce I mean they did Brooklyn definitely
Starting point is 00:44:16 sort of fat Puerto Rican dude going all out fighting everybody but it was just we had to get the fuck up out of there bad though I mean you see every guard this one that one this everybody was
Starting point is 00:44:29 shoo-shoom shooting past motherfuckers it was just they was just way too deep and we went over there super deep but it was this I guess that's like the great adventures of like being a kid without a car, rolling
Starting point is 00:44:43 with your projects somewhere catching the air. Where do you go to with your projects that it got a little bit too? I never lived in the projects, but my neighborhood was just as fucking fucked up as the project.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But like Halloween nights, they used to have shits with every one whole side of town and just mad projects and Mad blocks, just get together and go somewhere and do some crazy shit. You know, I did that. I used that one time, right?
Starting point is 00:45:17 I was a young kid hustling, selling drugs. I know that that's not popular to say, no, I'm not co-signing, but. Better than using them. I remember, that's a fact. I remember, right, it was one Halloween. And they had these dudes, I had this little crack spot that was clicking. And these dudes were fucking grown men. right they you know I'm only 14 13 14 um and I got a spot and it's clicking so these guys
Starting point is 00:45:50 were grown men and they came through and they just set up shop in the park and they was like yo shorthy man you dead like I'm telling you the truth yo you dead on this shit like like come on man this and I'm only like 13 14 but my projects used to get together for It was hundreds of us. And we go to everybody else's projects with socks, with this. So it happened to be Halloween, right? And they was super deep. And I told everybody, yo, I'm going to give you the signal.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Y'all come around the corner. Dude. Y! Yo! I'm 13. I walk up to these dudes, they grow men. I'm like, yo, y'all can't plump out here. They're like, what?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Like, yo, didn't we tell you with this? I was like, hey, yo! They just came around the corner. The whole project looked like Halloween. They did with socks with this. This thing was like, yo, they were true. I said, yes. This is my crew.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Like, what y'all ninkis won out here? Man, them boys left that spot so fast, man. I think the project ain't know I used them to run these guys out of it. These guys were grown men, 30 years old shit. When I say, yo, hundreds of guys came with the face painted, the socks. They were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we out. Don't worry about it. We won't come back over here no more.
Starting point is 00:47:19 This, this day. I use Halloween a couple of times. Nah, you know, this shit is all theater. Theater. One time I blocked, we was hustling because we used to hustle together. So I lived in the middle of the block. I came out like in the evening. in one time, like, no.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I'm, I'm catching, like, the sundown shift. So I'll come out, I probably had a hundred, a couple hundred pieces on me. Come out, dab everybody up, go put my pack in the building. Like, too, look, come out, what's up, crack? Put my, my man, and this is the crazy, he's Mary's cousin. He's the one who actually passed the demo.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's Jay Bop. My man, Jamalco, he actually passed the demo to Mary that went to Puff that got a sign. So fast forward, I come out the crib, shower, ready to knock my work off, put it in the middle building up in the elevator thing. Come out two seconds. Somebody, oh, somebody come, they want some. Custy. I go back. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Now, I'm like, my man, I said, Bob, you. It's no way It was When I tell you Was this fat I came out that Put the pack in the building Went outside them
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yo let me get some Went back Nothing Me Yeah you got my pack And we almost had We got down The like
Starting point is 00:48:55 No's the no He's like I don't got you shit I'm like You gotta has No ways Nobody I'm not taking
Starting point is 00:49:02 No four hands So we all It got like heated They calmed it down But I still, I can't sleep because I'm like, I went to the house and got some more, but I'm like, this. My whole night was fucked up off. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So we're chilling a few hours later. Always come, a smoker come out. Did you have them green bags? They're having a party in Deb's house with. Oh, you was like, who's pumping the green bag? So now we got to the bottom of it. My man, nut, I hope he rest. He's a lot of peanut?
Starting point is 00:49:40 Hobie's alive, we have killed. The peanut stole the shit. We have killed them. He used the baffoom on yourself. We obliterated him when we caught. Let me tell you something. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Those founding fathers were gossipy AF, and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator-based, on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It can't get no better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian. A fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcasts that explore society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Heller Christian, to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look. I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice is given me by God, and I love it. Books that validated our identity. The library now, for me, is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shell. And how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to hella black, hella queer, hella Christian on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:51:56 What's up guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our. reviews on Musica Mexica Mexica. Whether you like Pezzo Pluma, Los Aligres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornejo when you gain your feels, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews. Pesso Plumma show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashioning and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica mexicana, the craziest controversies and chismes. I don't have
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Starting point is 00:52:50 Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the My Cultura podcast network on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. 25 years, 25 players. Before training camp, kickstarts a new NFL season, NFL Daily, is going. to look back. It is a special six-episode series where myself, Greg Rosenthal, and some of the top NFL minds like Kevin Harlan, Mina Kimes, and Bill Barnwell make the case for each player. We're taking a look back, giving you NFL Daly's top 25 players of the last 25 years. So who made the list? You know Tom Brady's on it. Where's Patrick Mahomes? Mahomes is under the end zone.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Touchdown. Kansas City. He's on it. How about Lamar Jackson? Jackson. Jackson takes. at himself look at him dark back and forth oh he broke his ankles and he's got a touchdown he is houdini you are going to have to listen to find out listen to nfl daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years starting on june 30th on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast I was way too young in the streets doing the shit I was doing. Of course, when I got older, it was like really not fair for people. But I was way too young. So I get it while they, they was trying me because it was like, yo, this guy's 13, 14.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I was really trying to. So this one, I remember, nah, we did some foul shit. It was like this, this crackhead. I had him sell for me, but he was seven feet tall, still has size, this, this, that. So he dead me.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Ooh, he dead at you. Yo, bro, I'm not lying to you. He dead at me. He was like, yo, I ain't got your money, this, this, that. So now, I'm like, with like three or four of my men's with me, right? We're still all little dudes, though,
Starting point is 00:54:49 but, so I'm like, let me tell you, snitching never sat right with me. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever sat, right? Would me, and letting somebody get one up on me, never, ever. To this day, I don't think there's somebody who got one up on me, right? Physically meaning it, right? So he's down there, he's pumping, we over here, and I'm telling him,
Starting point is 00:55:15 yo, he beat me for like $100 and he ain't coming next to us and nothing like this. So they was like, word, let's pound them out, God. I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, let's pound them out, right? the dude was addicted to gambling so we went and took like three rocks we didn't even have dice we down the block we act like we gambling we throwing the rocks against the shit
Starting point is 00:55:37 see no you're doing whatever this thing comes over we put the beats on this guy so body slam this dude we pounded them out so legend and so you know where I put in this shit is real was like one time I went I went to see my aunt
Starting point is 00:55:54 stuck up my cuss Yeah, come on, man. Come on, cry. Come on. When I put on the shit is real, Primo Edition, one time I went to see my aunt stuck up my cuss, right?
Starting point is 00:56:10 So now, it wasn't me. I don't want to say nobody business, but one of my, my uncle, he got beat, right? So he gave somebody some work. They didn't pay him back this, this, that.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So he calls me, he says, You know, it's my cousin. This is my uncle. And my cousin was a grown-ass man. I'm 14, 15, right? So my uncle calls me and says, yo, that work you gave me, our cousin such and such,
Starting point is 00:56:39 he beat you. He talked about he ain't paying. This nigga was way too big for us, like a grown man. My own cousin, right? You know, you're 14. You're trying to give dudes work. You think you cool.
Starting point is 00:56:51 These guys are 28, 30 years old. They don't give a fuck about what you should. You was young enough to knock off your own work. Let me tell you what happened. So I walk in, this is a true story. I walk into my aunt's house, and that dude is gambling in the hallway. He's my cousin. We put the beats on him so legend.
Starting point is 00:57:13 So legend. In front of the whole hood. He needs a merch that's a so legend. Yo, so legend. He was shooting dice. We pounded him out. To this day, I don't even feel right when I see him at first. funerals and all that because he talks to me, but he knows what we get to him.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So let you. No, I'm telling you the truth. I see him. He's my, he's my cousin. You know, he spoke at my father's funeral recently. Like, oh, Ernesto was, you know, this, but he caught, he had to, I never let him. I never let him. There's this guy. Let me tell you something, right? There's this guy. I wrote about it in my book, the book of Jose. This guy, And they know what I'm talking about. I've got to say it because I said it in the thing, but his name was Monkey Face Carlos. Monkey Face Carlos.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He from the Bronx? Was a killer. You hear me? You're from the BX? Yes. He was an alleged killer because I don't know where he's at. But he was there with Chicky for Southern Boulevard and all these, these guys is the most dangerous crew in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Don't let nobody lie to you. These guys, they're underneath the jail. They told him, the judge told him, These don't guys, yo, I want to snitch on another body for who. Chicky, please, we're not doing no more tricky stories. Like, we don't want no more about it. Like, they're underneath the jail, right? The realest guys ever in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:58:40 There's just no other way to explain it to, right? He's one of them. So he's going out with a girl from my building, right? So, of course, you know, I'm young. I got the, so I tell him. I see, yo, monkey, yo, I got some work. He was like, yo, give me $500. What's his name, Monkey Face?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Monkey Face Carlos, had the green eyes. They know what I'm talking about. He looked like a monkey, though? No, he was actually a fairly handsome guy, but that was just what they called him. That was handled. And he was way advanced for me. I'm only 14. He's like, they're putting their work legend out there, right?
Starting point is 00:59:16 But he goes with the girl in my building. So I've been calling him and he don't pick up the phone, right? So he walked out my building, right? And I ain't going to lie to him. I'm still just a kid, right? So he walked out my building. I'm like, yo, yo, your, Carlos, I've been calling you. He was like, yeah, for what?
Starting point is 00:59:37 I was like, you know that shit I gave me? He was like, oh, you dead on that shit. Like that, though, man. I swear to God, man. Yo, this is crazy. Do they know what they fucking went here, man? I'm like, I'm looking at him. I'm just a kid, but I'm like, he was like, oh, you.
Starting point is 00:59:53 you want oh you dead on that shit and he keeps walking and I'm watching them it's turning like whatever they call that twilight it's turning dark and I watch him while he's walking down the block I'm talking to myself my conscience
Starting point is 01:00:11 I said man you pussy this nigga played you you just suck a nigga like you let this guy beat you this is so I'm talking to myself right so he gets like a block down almost by Diamond D building And I see, yo monkey He turned around
Starting point is 01:00:27 He was like, what? It's like, no, one second, one second So I'm jogging over there Now monkey, yo, check this out I got some work Boom, I duff this dude, right? He fall on the floor. Pound him out, legend.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Legend. He's on the floor. Pound it out. And let me tell you something. Thank God he didn't kill me, he ain't come back with the mob. Thank God he ain't do nothing. of that, but I was so impressed
Starting point is 01:00:55 with my courage to stand up to this guy. I could not believe. He was just what, so I never, you know, it never been the thing to me. You know what I mean? Like, to get played like that, get beat,
Starting point is 01:01:11 and the snitching it doesn't exist. Revenge is a dish served. However the fuck you want to serve it. That's about smoke. You heard? Revenge is a dish serve. is a what?
Starting point is 01:01:24 A dish. Served however you want to serve. However you want, yeah, that's a good one. Revenge is a dish. Serve however you want to serve. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Leftovers. However you want to get your revenge, it was on you. Oh, yeah. I could never live with that, man. I couldn't live with, you know, anybody trying to play with me. I said one time I come out,
Starting point is 01:01:51 Jimmy's Cafe. The guy, you know this guy, too. I'm telling you this story about. I come out of Jimmy's Cafe. And I don't know why, because I'm always there, but he come out of jail. I've seen him with y'all. Right? No, I'm just saying, he's not a member of your crew, but I seen him, but he's a well-respected guy from the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:02:11 He's not pussy. But he looked at me, and he was like, oh, they let chew in there? And I'm like, he just came home from jail, right? But all these, oh, my God. So he comes on from jail, right? So I guess he's thinking like, you know, he's tough now or something? And so he's like, oh, they let you in here? I said, what, what you mean?
Starting point is 01:02:34 And he said, nah, you could still be in the hood. Like, you ain't supposed to be either. So I smack his cheek off in the bathroom. Do. One second. I smacked his cheek. No, I'm telling you, I gave him that fire. Boom.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Then he tried to act. up outside. I finished it off outside. I really pounded him out. Legend. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. I ain't seen him for years till I seen the locks with him somewhere. I said, and he still think he'd talk. Who is this guy? Now, they'll sue you now if you say the name, right? I don't need to put the streets together. I'll tell you in your ear. Nah, you was probably like the 10th. Trust me. He wasn't with me. No, he wasn't with y'all. I'm just saying he's considered a real guy he's just had he took an
Starting point is 01:03:22 L with that I'm just telling you the truth he called the L his sister had to jump in who was a well respected you know what I'm talking about in the street she jumped in like Joe that's my brother please know this I'm just and it was that I just can't tolerate the disrespect like you know
Starting point is 01:03:38 like I never let's just get off that subject they come up with the the do-up I was thinking about the best groups of all time. Groups. You're not with it today.
Starting point is 01:03:58 We did this already, didn't we? No, we did duos. We didn't do groups. Complex did duos. What have we done? Ladies. Ladies, producers, songs. We ain't do the biggest, the best groups of all time.
Starting point is 01:04:15 But there's probably a lot of crossover. There's some groups that's duos. And there there's some groups that's groups. I don't think you count them by the... They're running out of shit to make up so they broke down two men groups. Then next day they come with three men groups. Then they come with...
Starting point is 01:04:33 How about them guys we did the show with... What's the what? The 520 boys, they brought out the LeBron joint. Like, there's some... There's some shits that everybody keep playing into that it's like, that shit never going to give. old, you know, you ain't fucking with the groups
Starting point is 01:04:51 today, you don't feel like it. You got the pastel shit on you. We did the duos. We don't need to do the trios. The next month. Let's do something else. Top three posse cuts of all time. We can do five, but
Starting point is 01:05:07 you know, this guy don't want to do it. We can do five. Five top five. Long as they know, it's all of you. Why is it all me? All I'm doing is part. Listen, Pete, this shit is him.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah, but I got to let it be known that he's with me. This is my business partner. Don't let him just, he's going to get me fucked up at a Rock the Bell's concert. I'm going to get pounded out. Things are going to pound me out at a rock. They're going to be, see, the next little fucking what they do when they do them little cartoons, what they call that shit. Sketches.
Starting point is 01:05:42 They're going to show Joe running from the Rock the Bell's concert. Rock him ready to hit me. with a stick or something. Top five posse cuts. You want to start or I start? I go first. Oh, I knew you wanted to go first. You got to go first.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I knew you wanted to go first on this one. Stop the violence. Number one. Stop the violence? No, help this. Self destruction. Self destruction. I'm going with that.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I'll get that out the way first. I never knew why we never had a self-destruction too. They need it, but the little kid. got killed from Philly. He did it over. Self-destruction. The scenario remix. I could have took both.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I'm going to leave you to right. You said, oh, no. It's when you heard, you say, oh, no. Close. All right, when I got, self-destruction, scenario remix. I'm cooking with fucking greets right now. Right now, you're out of control. The symphony
Starting point is 01:06:49 That was going on my list He ain't got them leaving you with nothing That's three I'm leaving them with nothing You ain't going to lie to you He took my number one You started it Okay that's my number one
Starting point is 01:07:07 He started it Don't say no numbers I got two more left I'm just telling you I would have went That was on the top of my list Scenario He fucked up my own life He fucked up.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Now I'm going to give you. Don't give him those fucking shit. I was on my list too. I'm not even going to use me. I'm going to use you. I'll let you use me. Verbal intercourse, right? Number four.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. I'm smoking now in. No, no, no. You're doing it. Damn come back. I didn't think you was going to do that. Skinning out of here. What's my for right now?
Starting point is 01:07:48 Self-destruction, scenario, symphony, verbal intercourse. And this, let me finish it off with a... Yo, you got a... I shot you. It put me in the game, I shot you. I shot you put me in the catch. That's fine. I shot you, self-destruction, scenario remix, the symphony.
Starting point is 01:08:16 In which piece of shit? Inverbal, win. No, no, no. I left shit's out for you. Yeah, I left you, shit. I'm going Benjamin's. Okay. Then I'm going live at the barbecue.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Ooh. Then I'm going ban from TV. Oh! And then he's going brain free. It's more shit, though. I'm just looking. I got... Hold on.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Don't give us. I know what it is. It's John Blaze right off to that. It's what it was. I know what it is. Don't say nothing. It is what it is. I know what it is. What's the list? I'm in three and his five.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm in three of them and five. I love him to death. You are one of the greatest rappers in fucking Seifers ever created. You fucking took my shit. Now, he got three. And he got John Blaise. I got Alzheimer's.
Starting point is 01:09:20 John Blase. John Blase, Ben from TV, and the Benjamins. And live for me. Oh, so you got four. You need one more. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's where I'm stuck in the reservoir. I'm stuck in muddy waters.
Starting point is 01:09:35 You just said it. You just said it. Hold up. Wait a minute. You might as well put me in five with my fourth. Make me four out of five, man. Let me give you one. Reservoir dogs.
Starting point is 01:09:45 The thing he's done starting something It's mad at what you want Yeah, but you know what I'm thinking You don't want to keep Flaving your air remixed That's it That's it That's the five
Starting point is 01:09:57 Those is good five What's my five again Because this guy took all Yeah Put the thing on this post When you put it off You flavoring your air remix You don't
Starting point is 01:10:07 I get more butt than ass Shays fuck a fair one I'm not the ass Scheme ass way Damn and they Do you know A little bird A little birdie told me that verse that big is talking about Craig Mac on his own song.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I heard about that. Nah, I heard about it. And if I was the curse. With that first of all, you're bound to get dropped. Would you get, you bound to get dropped. Damn. I mean, the same thing happened with cannabis in L.L. When he put him on that other joint.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah, that was a great song. But I don't think it makes the type. I don't think it makes the first five like when he said the first five scenario. And then, you know, that was a good one, but that wasn't, that wasn't our shot. It wasn't, um, but that cannabis L.O. battle, who you thought was winning that at the prime of that battle right there? I didn't like, that was the start of our demise of with this comparison shit. Because it's a young, a young aspiring rapper to be, have a career going that battle with the first person I ever signed. the death jam. It's not right. We should have never let that happen. That was a flag.
Starting point is 01:11:22 But we like negative and we like controversy so much. He went to the army, right? He went, he went military? Yeah. Cannabis went to the military after that? military, man. He's done. He's super nice. If there was anybody, the Big Pum wanted to smoke with, it was cannabis. Why, anybody wanted to smoke with cannabis? No, because, you know, Pund respected him. Blinky Blink went, left Harlem, went to his out-release party, and Julioed him. On cannabis?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Yeah. What for? He was an L.O. fan. He said his name. He said he's something about him in the rhyme. You went to his album party Went to his album, police party. I never liked the KRS through P.M. Dorn off the stage. I used to love P.M. Do it, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I didn't like that. There were certain shits that we didn't like. They wasn't supposed to say nothing about Chris, though, man, to teach it, man. Did he say something about Chris P.M. Dawn? He had to. He went on stages to power would throw his ass off. He had to do some serious violation for him to do that.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Damn. God. Without you. I used to love that shit. Right? P. M. Dorn had knocked, though. B. Dorn was this shit, bro. Yo, I fucked with P. M. Dorn.
Starting point is 01:12:44 He passed away, too. He passed away, rest of peace. P. M. Dorn. I remember Finesse had the beef with my man's the funky man over there in Jersey. I live for the funk. I died for the... Mr. Funky.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Him and Finesse had a rap battle. Yeah, they're super cool. no they're mad cool um sometimes i was just for 50 cent we got all that had all that history with him you know you respect people when you go to war with them and you see like you like damn and then you know 50 cent just told me this shit too many you say you know the beef was never with you he said you just too loyal he said you too lawy and you just took
Starting point is 01:13:26 they side because you made music with him but he i swear to god he just told me this one day ago he was like yo the I never really had real beef with you. It was just, you know, you jump. And then somebody told me, think about it now, somebody told me, like, I try to get two wrappers to squash your beef, big-time rabbits.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I had one ready to squash it, and this ain't 50-cent job. I had one ready to squash it. I went to see the other in this house, and you know what he told me? Yo, Joe, why would I squash this? because every time I just say their name or disem, I go viral. There's no way I'm going to squash that.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You believe that people keep problems because they know if they say your name, they're going viral automatically. And so the guy told me, why would I squash the beef? Every time I want to go viral, I just say, fuck these guys. Yo, the game is fucked up. That's crazy. The chemistry of the game.
Starting point is 01:14:30 The game is crazy. But, I mean, think about it, right? You know what I'm saying? We started with Jimmy, and then now he's on a world tour about, you know what I'm saying? I don't think Nas even responded, right? He responded with a casino. He responded with a casino. That was bad, yo.
Starting point is 01:14:52 He responded with a casino. With a casino. Do you know what 1% of a casino is? 25? I'm sure he got more than that. I'm just saying, yeah, he responded with a casino. We're going to wrap up with that.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Yeah, let me tell you some. He responding to the casino. What can we say after that? We at Rock Nation. Every time I thought I had some for Jay-Z, he'd be like out in Monaco, where the grapes or $5,000 to eat to this.
Starting point is 01:15:21 And I'd be like, yo, this guy, he's just, the word that I step on is a million dollars. I'm like, yo, we, You can't say shit about this guy. That was Wansbill. They didn't get the most ever spent on indictment. Indictment.
Starting point is 01:15:37 That was Warns' space. That was Wansbill. I mean, I think Nass took a page out of his hose book with this one when he just said, okay, perfect time and you promoted the casino. Here you go. And on that note, we're the biggest in the motherfucking game. Joe crack. Hold on. What is it?
Starting point is 01:15:56 It's crack. It's kissed. this ain't that that ain't this you know what it is and the motherfucking train is coming let me tell you something man
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Starting point is 01:16:17 you know I don't know why you think I'm on the rock let me tell you something man like share subscribe whatever the fucking shit is listen it's the inevitable if y'all want smoke
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