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Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss devote today’s episode to discussing Jim Jones’ recent take that being a rapper is the most dangerous job in the world. Joe and Jada share stories they have surrounding several gone-to-soon hip hop legends like Tupac, The Notorious B.I.G., Big Pun, Big L, and more. Jada tells Joe about how he and The Lox were on their first trip to Los Angeles on the fateful night that Biggie died, and Joe shares a wild story of himself and Big Pun getting into trouble in LA and bringing protection that year’s Grammy Awards. They also discuss Joe’s falling out with Justin Bieber, Tory Lanez getting attacked in jail, their top-five hip hop producers, as well the untimely passings of recent hip hop stars like Nipsey Hussle and Pop Smoke. Joe and Jada give advice to the younger generation of rappers on how to stay healthy and out of trouble. 03:00 - Is hip hop the most dangerous job?  08:00 - Jada on Biggie, Joe & Pun at the Emmys 26:00 - Joe's falling out with Justin Bieber 36:00 - How Joe & Jada met Tupac  41:45 - Streaming scams artists 51:00 - Advice for younger generation 56:30 - Top 5 producers (Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.) Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuiltanetwork/ytb/ #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So this one I said, let's dig in to a statement that our brother, Jim Jones said a while back that just stood with me forever. that hip hop is the most dangerous job in the world. Do you agree with that or disagree? What are your thoughts with that? And then we'll take it from there. Hip hop is definitely not hip hop. Being an artist, being a hip hop artist,

producer, whatever, what have you. It's very dangerous. Definitely one of the top most dangerous jobs you can have. Your shit is top five dead or alive. You know, I'd be seeing guys out there fishing for lobsters and dudes doing putting tar on the floor in Phoenix and 100 degrees. Why you got to meet so? I'm trying to paint the picture of some serious jobs out there.

But here on the floor, Phoenix. Top on the floor. It's hard. It's hard as fucking feet. The worst job I ever seen, it was Phoenix 130 degrees. And a guy was dressed like a hot dog. and he had one of these... Here we go again!

Here we go again. The man had a hot dog suit on. It must have been the AC in there. Because, yo, listen, he was flipping. You know how they do the arrow? Like, yo, hot dogs this way. It's crazy. Yo, I'm telling you, that was a dangerous job to me.

It's so hot in Phoenix. I see the steam coming up off the floor. And I looked at the guy with the hot dog uniform. I said, yo, my man. Like, this is, there's some crazy jobs out there, right? Some law enforcement to say they got the hardest job. People shooting at them every day, whatever the case. But hip-hop, you know, they bring you up, they glorify you,

break you down. Break you down. And then the hate sets in. And what I've known in my studies of hip-hop with violence is you and me. maybe you're a little bit less because you know you're one of the most loved rappers in the world

but the chances are will be murdered in Junkers or in the Bronx before Compton or Chicago or something like that it's always where you from where people think they know you that much

and they got the real jealousy and envy you see Nipsey Hustle the guy who killed him he's in pictures standing and beyond Lipsy Hustle. We could do that with all the hip-hop. Jam Master J was set up by his own friends, right?

So what is it that where are you from? And we go, you represent Yonkers across the world. We represent, I represent the Bronx to the moon. Why is it they want to kill me in the Bronx more than anywhere else? Why they want to do it to you, where you from? I think, do you have all the hate you can receive is nothing more. than where you came from. I mean, as much as they love you, they hate you,

I think 10 times more because they feel like they really know you opposed to all the demographics of the world. You know what I mean? There's dudes in the V-X that's like, I know that name before you when he was just regular Joey or whatever it is.

And then that sets in and it turns into a thing that keeps growing. It's like a hate cancer. And then it spreads and then it, you know what I mean? And then I know what it is, because as much as they see people happy for you, that shit makes their hate cancer spread even more. And then they're able to spread it to some other dudes that feel like that. And then it stays crazy.

So what you say is... A couple funerals, though. A couple funerals, a couple of funerals, just like, yeah, a couple of murals, couple funerals, mommy raps, shit like that, and then it goes back down to look. You know, I start with Scott LaRott. I was just a teenager.

Wow, rest of pinched to Scarlet Rock. I was just a teenager playing basketball. I was in my grandmother's block of Washington Avenue to 9, and it just was like this before Instagram guys, before social media, and it was just like, yo, yo, yo, Scott LaRot, got shot, he got killed, Skylar Rock. BDP was everything to me.

And yeah, we grew up violent, but that hurt me because I was like, these was the guys putting on for our neighborhood and couldn't believe somebody killed them, senseless murder. Which was the one that, at all the hip-hop, which is the one that got you and you was like, wow. Like, I can't believe this happened. By far, for me, it's big. My first time, the Lox, it was our first time in L.A., and Big got killed. So you know, he was out there

He was at the party We was with him before the day before We, you know We was in his like Did you not feel like it was dangerous? At one time Did you not feel like it was dangerous being in L.A. And he had the East Coast, West Coast beef.

I felt it was dangerous But we really didn't know how to, we know what I'm saying? We, we know what was really going on. We knew that shit was going on but we didn't, we never been there. We thought we was, heavily protected

we thought we was good I mean we thought we was the same way I mean we kind of was because we was with we had bad boy in we had D and them we had a different kind of army brigade with us we had extra shout out to D and I speak J

you know they saved my life Ice Big J you saved my life I heard that story that's a real story they was gonna get me and you know I had a lot of beef with the West Coast I'm probably and when I'm not stirring

nothing up, but I'm probably the only rapper from New York that had physical beef with the West Coast, like real physical war. It went down, right? So when I go over there, me and punt out there for the Grammys

is a million cop cars in the street. And, you know, it was like gang beef, so they had a guy with Jerry curls, a bubble goose, it was hot as hell, and the gun was to his ain't i don't know how there's one million cops out here they don't see the guy

old dog from the fucking menace to society like the man in the middle of the street dripping the fucking jerry girl juice with a machine gun with a bubble goose on in the summer and we don't rat but i'm looking like jesus christ don't nobody see and he looked at me like he could not go back to the hood without clapping fat joe not clapping, killing me. He had a machine gun. And so it was a million cops out there. I fucked up because we had the mansion. We knew whatever was going to happen,

you know, don't go out over there and we still, like dummies, went out. Shout out my brother, Tone, patrol, held it down, all of us. And so I'm sitting out there and the guy's there. There's a girl standing next to me and she sees what's going on and she looks at me and says, a girl from New York, she said, no, I'm sorry.

She was like, Joe, I'm sorry. I'm sorry this is happening to you. Like, she could probably see, like, death in my face. Like, the guy was, he was trying to figure out how to shoot me and get away from the 1,000 cops, but he couldn't go back to his hood without shooting me. So he was like, he looked like a dog in rage, and then out of nowhere the door opens and D comes out.

And D comes out, he's like, yo, crack, what's up, this is that? And I looked at him, I said, yo, I just nod at the head. Dee from the Rough Riders, he looks over there. General. The general looks over there. He looks back and he said, that's for you crap. I said, yeah, it's for me.

He said, yo, Ice Pick is going to turn this corner in a white van. Y'all better just get in there and get out of here, right? So the van pull up. Ice pick ain't even know he was saving us, right? He was coming around to get D. the van pull up we got in that bitch like the fucking painting from good times you remember good times

they had to sit where everybody was dancing sideways and shit like that good time like yo we slid in that motherfucker yo god was with us was crazy it was like six or seven of us we got in that bitch and left in the van and looked back that guy was so confused

he didn't know where the fuck we went because it was like too crowded We got in the van. I was like, yo, I speak, thank you. Save my life.

You don't understand this. He was like, what happened? I'll say, yo, the machine got. They're ready to clap us. This deed told us to get in there.

So he took us to the mansion which a couple of blocks away. After that, we said, we went to the Grammys with guns on us. Me and Big Punt, that picture that you see us

looking like superheroes, we actually had hammers on us in the Grammys because that was too much. We stepped outside. The point is the danger, you know, is always there. I think of Bigel, right?

Rest in peace, the Bigel. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying he would not hurt a fly. Bigel gamble, rhymed, have fun, never bothered the human being in his life. He loved the ladies. He loved the ladies. He chilled. He was funny. My little brother, and they murdered him on the block that he talked about

and every one of his routers. 139. I remember rushing up there when they told me I was at D&D. Cam and them was outside. I'm outside. They still got the body on the floor. Right?

And so he got murdered on his block. Same thing with Jam Master Jay. And so you say to yourself, you say, you know, we work so hard to bet ourselves. At the end of the day, you got something to say, you rap, you want to rap about whatever you want to rap about you want to show the world you're the best rapper then obviously we get financially smart

so we see that there's money out here and we figure it now how to do this i think backer in the day was more celebrated backer yeah i think i like that word backer in the day old school it was more celebrated so we saw the hustlers we seen everybody showing their shit off and they inspired us but over the years with social media and all that i think it's like bittersweet because it's more people looking at you with jealousize and hatred. That's definitely, I think

technology definitely plays a part of it because before you, it was just you were here of the boy George's and whoever it is that was in Queens or Harlem it was, you might can see them if you could make it to the feeble or

one of them parties or a rooftop or some shit like if you might have a chance to get a glimpse to somebody, but Other than that, you just heard who was getting busy in the Bronx, Ohio, or Queens, Brooklyn. And it then put the hate, the hate cancer couldn't spread. Now you can just scroll down and the switch can hit on. Any social media platform, you know what I mean? You can look on Facebook.

You can go on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. They can create the own narrative of hate now. Somebody can just say, I don't like fat jokes. and just make a whole page and the whole shit of you. Tell me about it. Couldn't do that back in the day. That happens.

Yeah. It happens to everybody, huh? And what's crazy is if we take it to modern day, skip a couple of errors, these kids are like getting murdered on video. Like Nipsy else who got,

I think the thing's on video now, crack. That's the old, anything. Everybody even's going like this or is the eye in the sky, That pole has a camera that goes to the White House. The leaves on that trees is connected to Albany. It's really no fucking way to do anything right now opposed to back in the days. You had to see somebody somewhere passing that Jew man or in the train station or

sneaker store club and then it would go down and if he wasn't there or nobody got killed or if they did, it just happened. Now, before your family, no, the whole world is. crazy. Where I walk the track at Kensington Co. Dam, one day there's an old lady, she's working out, she's coming down. I'm going up. A elderly lady that's working out

is coming down. Two young chicks is coming down. The lady, because the stairs is tilted a little, the lady tripped, loses her fluidity and goes off to the side, oh, to the woods. Grandma. Now

the girls is in front of me. I'm thinking they're going to go get her. First thing they You, phone. Me, yo, you're crazy? I go help off, dust off, curse them out a little bit, keep going up to stand. But I'm like, this is a shame. This lady was 70-some, 80-some years old.

One thing I take pride in, right? Privacy. No, no, I take pride in. No, no, one thing I take pride in is that just like you, no matter how successful we are, we move around in the hood, get a lot of respect. And so one thing I love doing, is supporting the community and supporting the local businesses.

So whether it's Melbourne's in Harlem or the Bahejo and East Tremont in the Bronx, the Puerto Rican restaurant, I'm in there. Pharmacy for life and Scars Day. Pharmacy for life. I mean, juices for life. Of course. White Plink. But what I'm saying to you is one day I'm in East Tremont and the Bohillo.

And two people starting to get down. Now, my daughter, I can't lie to you, she little house on the prairie. Yeah, they can't imagine none of this life. shit we've been through it. They don't know. We see this regular guys arguing over an elevator, whatever. She don't know.

And she's just like, and we're in the hood. When she looked like Little House on the prairie, a little fur, white hat. They knew this girl ain't from around here, right? But two girls start arguing they about the fight. They're in the Puerto Rican joint. You know, one of my favorites.

And I'm eating. And like a 70-80-year-old lady got to pull down. out her camera and said World Star World Star World Star 80 your old

lady got up and then threw the camera in my face because I'm in the building She got to get you Yeah that's going Up on hits She getting Joe crack on them

Witness in the fight Barbara My think thee Barbara She knows what time it is You get in the car was she know every young person's Raps like I met your aunt

City Island She was telling me Records and Raps I mean, but she was selling me, yo, the cold rocks. She was throwing words, so I knew she loved hip-hop. My aunt's like that, too, but I don't think my aunt going to get up and go world star. Like the lady got up and said, what, yo, I had a moment with myself. I sat there, I said, yo, this is just fucking going.

It's like the Maury show on the streets. It never turns off. It never turns off. That's another thing why I say we had the best era of music because we had privacy. All of the memories or shit that happened and got to stay in the brain. You know what I mean?

It was not a bunch of, as soon as they sent something, mad phones go out. Man, let me tell you something. They murdered Nipsey Hustle on video. They murdered anybody on video. Damn, man. The last year since shit was in technology.

I'm saying, Yo, Jay, that we should do a podcast on how dangerous hip-hop is. It's like the voice hit their Instagram, and immediately the first thing I did, I opened Instagram, and they got the young brother in Detroit two days ago, Skiller. Sciller baby. And they shoot at him 25 times. He can hit a couple of times. Three. They hit him three times.

I go up a little bit more. I see my man Rod Wave, who sings nothing for positivity. He was the first one that almost got it right. He was saying, I'm a retire, I made enough money, go chill with my family. He gets arrested for all type of felonies and shit like that. I believe he's innocent. I just believe he's innocent, right? But in hip-hop, why does it feel like, you know, I always thought of,

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You don't talk to you no more? No, Justin Bieber we do every now and then. But Justin Bieber, I'm going to tell you what fucked me up with Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber gets arrested just driving crazy around Miami Raul rest of peace calls me up and says yo they're looking for somebody to bail out Justin Bieber

it wasn't no money it was nothing a couple of hundred dollars a thousand dollars we used a rich players girl to bail them out so I bail out Justin Bieber hundred dollars There's no real money this is a ill story It's because it was in Miami

He didn't have no money at the time? No, he got money, but he ain't no criminal. I'm trying to get to the point. We bail a man out. Hold on. He's young. You bailed out Justin B. He's rich and fuck it.

He always been rich. No, what happens is we all got friends in common, and they was like, we're not from here. They didn't know about that. He didn't know about that. Which player at the time was dating Damadi, the bail bondsman. And so we just got, it was about nothing. I'm trying to tell you. I'm not trying to get caught.

for this. This is nothing. The problem is he calls me to thank me and start saying, yo, I'm a gangster now. Since he got arrested? Oh, shit. Nah.

He was in traffic? What did he got arrested for? Speedy. Right? But he started telling me he's a gangster, Joe. I went to jail at this. I say, yo, Justin, listen, bro. You got to stop.

Like this, not, nah, straight up. You got to stop. Like, we don't want you gangster, we want you singing, baby, baby, this, and I think he took, I think if I were to gas him, like some of these OG gang guys gassed the young kids, he'd have been like fat Joe, but I hit him with the, yo, we don't want you on the news, bro. We don't want you getting arrested. We want you to succeed your Justin Bieber. My daughter worships you. We all love you. And that kind of messed up my relationship with him at that moment because he really was like, he wasn't trying to hear

that shit? Nah, he felt like, you know, yo, this guy, you know, I'm the fun killer, fucked up the moment. The problem is we can't glorify going to jail or getting arrested and these rap is acting like it's some sexy shit because I know that the most I was intimidated, right? I walk into jail, right? And I'm not scared of nobody.

And I swear to you, Jeter, you will not see. I'm not scared of. of no man. Not even the boogeyman? Not the boogeyman either. But I walk in this jail and there's 2,000 guys, Aryan nation, Jamaicans,

Haitians, Puerto Ricans. They all cocked diesel. The shit is like the movie medal. And when they see me, it's like the Game of Thrones, the dragon without fire. They're like, ha, they scream like,

ha! cycle screeching and went, they jump from all over. I'm like, I'm, Fat Joe before rap, rapper walk up in that jail, he's fooled. I already know walking up in there.

I said, oh man, somebody going to run up on me real quick with a knife talking about, yo, you got to pay whatever, whatever. And I actually got intimidated. And while I'm walking to myself, I've got to talk to myself, and I never got to talk to myself. I got to tell my-

did. No, no, no. I talk to myself. You talk to myself like, yo, Joe, you ain't pussy. Don't fall of this shit. Yo, Joe, don't let niggas play you. Like, I'm walking to myself, giving myself a prep

talk in my mind because it's 2,000 guys screaming at one guy. I'm not even from there. It's not New York. It's not there. I'm in Miami. So I don't even know one person in there. You did time in Miami?

SDC, yeah. because they threw the change up. I'm supposed to go to New York. Now, this is the bragging part. I had 300 guys waiting for me in every jail in New York, legendary, you know, give us speeches.

When he come through here, this, we had that. Albanians, whatever you name, they was all waiting for Joe Crack in the jails in New York and Jersey. And prepping jail bit. No, I'm being honest with you. You're the hellest thing in the world.

Last minute, on a Saturday, I'm thinking the borough of prisons is hearing all this shit. It's switching shit. Send him down there because he lived right down there. They sent me the rusty-ass dirty building. I'm like, oh, my God. So I had to walk up in there.

The point is it's intimidating you being an artist going in jail. We talk about Torrey Lanes. They was not playing with Tori Lanes. I do not know when you get two lungs clapped. They stab you in your head, stab you in your chest. They try to really. murder Tory Lane's

right it's nothing cute about it I don't care how you look at it but why Torrey Lane's why you think

he at all the prisoners had to get stabbed up 14 times and all that sure he ain't the only

person who got stabbed up over there correct yeah I understand that over there

is probably crazier than any jail you can think of as far as gang shit. You know what I mean?

I knew that when he went in there. And the guy that stabbed him is an kill, is it already in there for doing crazy? He was already a killer. He was playing with... Remy does eight years

in her prime. In her prime, leanback's number one, this, that she goes through eight years. They sent her with murderers. And ain't that much

female prisons over there, though, she was in bed. She went to bed for, yeah, they could have sent her to the Martha Stewart, they sent it to where all these girls got burned.

But she wasn't in federal, or she was state. But, and I'm asking her. She was in the real. She was in the trenches. Yeah, she was in the trench. And really fighting chicks the size of Aja from fucking Vegas.

You know, Remy was like, yo, we had to squabble up. No, I'm just saying, you know, I'm being honest. She had to fight fucking Brutus and shit like that. Like, she was like, what? What you said about me?

all right, let's go. You know, but they, it wasn't cute. They put it with the murderers. Some people do time and they go to a camp, they go to a this, they do that. They do her because our crime was with violence with a bunch of murders. Torrey Lane, because this shit was violence.

And so rappers out there, if you're watching this and you want to learn anything, there is no. They're not playing with rappers. A spot in this mind, Big Pun, thought they were fucking. swimming pools and tennis for rappers, that's not happening.

They got a big night for your ass when you go in there and they're cutting you or you're going to learn the extortion game really, really fast in jail. Stay out of it. It's not the plan for me. We go on, Pop Smoke. Man was so talented.

He was the next superstar from New York City. He was going to be a superstar. He posted the address So where he was that off of a merry bag or something, though that's back connected to technology and hip-hop. You couldn't, that would never happen. If you were on Rodeo, going crazy with the bag,

when you get back to your suite, you're not going to post it. Not going to post what you just bought and have the address on it. So it's a messed up situation. I believe the part of smoke was murdered. I believe it was a hit job. No, he was definitely murdered,

but they got the drop of where he was at from social media. They didn't take his money. They didn't take his money. They came in there and killed them. I'm not saying social media got them to know where he was at, which we didn't have, which saved a lot of rappers from our ever. We try to do that a lot now,

like not post what we had on real time and get up out of there and post after. Because guys like P&B rock, you know, posted, he's in Rosco's Waffle chicken. And you said, yeah, well, my first time in LA is when Big got killed, but when they give you the laws from not being in LA and you go there, that Rosco's is that they tell you never go to that one. So I mean, when they told us, we, that was just, yeah, it was erased from my brain to ever even think about going. And then fast forward all these years later

after the success of P&B. And he just thought he could just go there with a girl and have a meal and you know what I mean they murdered them that's fucked up I'm not I wonder if they told them that Rascos is forbidden

or he just didn't you know he just just wanted to go have some food with his girl wherever he wanted to go and unfortunately

that happened but they definitely told us da la la this is this and this and this specific if you want to go to Rascos

there's one or two that you should go to but this one right here don't want ever go there unless you would don't ever go. Don't matter who you would. Just don't go to them. Don't go.

Tupac Shakor one of the most prolific rapers in the world. I think the realest rap in the world ever. Just my opinion. Right? Every time I've seen Tupac, if we're talking violence and we're talking that, he was in some shit. Every single time I laid the eyes on him.

I look at him, yo, you seen such and such pulling out the ham in the middle of the club. You're over here, it was bootlaking tapes he beat up like 25 africans on 125th i'm watching them broad daylight putting in work everywhere i go and i met him he had a red bandana with two guns i didn't even know who it was i'm in atlanta he come up yo crack i don't know who he is i'm looking met the man is dead we in a cipher is one of them conferences he pulled out yo's pot that's all right that's i caught the first time ever seen him was in alanda too at jack the rap did he have two guns

that's where I was at, Jack the Rapper. He didn't do that to you. No, I didn't. Did it to me. Right? You was at that Jack the Rapper last thing. I was there. I wasn't ever the same one.

It had to be the same one. The girl was like, I've seen your age on the cake. I thought you was way younger. You was at the Jack the Rapp and the same one. Now, you're just going to put me at every event. You was at. Listen, you was at the same one.

I thought you was like 10 years behind me. Man, now I'm just everywhere. You was at the fever. You were at the Fred Fetch. I was a three years old with us. Listen, we was at the motherfucker in the hotel, and the girl kept going, death rows in the house,

Long Beach, called in the girl that was in the chronic, she was singing that shit out there, they're frozen house, Long Beach. And I was like, you know, we just kept making the sing that, but two by I pull up. My point is,

he gets locked up. Let's just say the white people, in the record label, no matter how much he was selling, no matter how much we seen him on TV, no matter what, they did not go in that bag to bail him out.

This is the number one rapper at the time. You couldn't escape Tupac. Tubac was on the news. He was on everything. He was selling so many millions of records. They did not bail this man out. It took Shug Knight to come from L.A. to bail out.

Tupac. That's how he got signed to death row. Right? So if you think, the record label's coming to bail you out? You know, I know they support you at the beginning or whatever. You got Lil Durk right now.

Little Durk is facing life. Right? If you think he's thinking, I don't know, man, God bless him if he's thinking the record label I don't know about none of that shit. But fast forward to times from Park to Dirk. Dirk got, he's making mad off, he got mad, he's trying

to put up mad M's buildings all. He's still, they're denying his bill thus far. But Pock, They didn't have that, though, put up. So, man, listen. Is it like a, how do you feel about that with the time? Because his biggest Pock was, he should have had. You don't think he should have been able to get out without shit?

His back is going to hear me? He didn't have it. No, but you just said he was everywhere on the news. He was. But he didn't have that bag. He didn't have that bag or he would have bailed himself out. He didn't have the money to bail himself out. Sometimes we live in day by day.

We just living by different... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why is it across the other situation because dirt got the money and he can't get out. You think you check to check. You work in every day, check to check. We check to check. If we buying $300,000 watches, house, homes,

and everywhere, we check to check. That's why you got to keep working. That's why you got to keep working there. Everybody is so rich and why they fucking still working? No, no. When I see Smokey Robinson and all the motherfuckerskin still at Vegas,

and Lionel Richie. Still going. I just seen Rod Stewart about to do something. He's 180. All right. So what does that mean? Does that mean that they love to do it? Or does it mean like, you got to pay the bill?

You got kids in college. You got all type of fucking mortgages. You got car notes. You got shit. Like, I mean, guys, 80 years old still performing touring. I mean, just two days ago was Patty LaBelle. Yeah, my mom went there. I would have went back.

My mom in the way. I was in the way. stuck. I had a show. Patti LaBelle, my girl, Stephanie Bills. Glad it's Knight, Shocker Khan. Come on. That's a must-see TV. But, either they doing it for the love and the passion, or they

still got to get the money to pay these bills. Because these bills just keep coming. The bills don't stop. The bills keep coming. I don't care. The bills is coming now. The bills is coming now. The train is coming. And so what happens is, I don't care

how much money we make. It's almost like shampoo, the shit just slipped through your fingers. I'm not safe. No, I'm keeping it rid with you. I am not safe with no amount of money. You don't know how many times I made a million dollars and that shit was gone in like a month or two. And it's just regular shit.

You know, pay the lawyer, pay your insurance, pay this. Repeat process. Just this that. And then you turn around and it's like, yo, where's the bread? Yo, bro. You know, Louis Vuitton ain't cheap, bro. All that shit you do. doing out here looking cute.

It ain't cheap. And so there's always a check to check. I don't care how much money you make. It blows my mind. When I'm sitting down, I'm like, yo, I just made a million dollars last month. How the fuck you telling me the Amexville, this, this, this, this, this, just them washed up two quarters of the shit, like real quick. Like, and you thinking you were in the fucking, when I was in the projects,

I thought I could buy a fucking cloud with a million dollars. A cloud I'd be like, yo, I can buy me a cloud A million dollars You're looking at the fucking car, too They're going a million dollars They was acting like you could buy The whole bronze of that shit

Check this out though Fast forward We started from cassettes Now it's all way to eye cloud And all your music is and lives in the sky How the fuck is it With all of this streaming And all that

Is it more money It's definitely more money because they just would have because they made it so that if you stream a record certain amount remember we was one and done

or maybe two and done I bought the Lox album listened to it 10,000 times on CD if I really loved it I would keep listening to it if it broke I went and bought it again

the way the streaming works is they actually pay you less but if people stream why you think reggae tone got this shit on smash there's so many Spanish countries where all they do is look at YouTube or stream

Spotify or whatever you listen to the shit 10, 15 times it goes down as an album sale when we put it out you got to go through snowstorms to buy the new album me and punt waited six, seven hours to get the new M&M album

right? You had to go physical right now you just taking on your phone, and if you love the song and you keep playing that shit up, we're going make it 20 times. For the album. The numbers don't add. In 1,500 streams is one spin or one record

sale or something. That ain't, that whoever the fuck made that up, they hate us. The shit. The whole system, the whole system been a scam from the beginning. You're talking to the wrong guy. The math never added up with the record labels. You know, we look

at the music. Like, if you want to look at this as The math never was math. Dr. Dre. The music, it means everything, but the music is just like a coffee book. It allows you to go in rooms where you wouldn't be accepted. There's a stepping stone.

So now you're in Soul House. You hear there. You're meeting somebody, Rizzer. You meet the greatest movie guy who love you from Wu-Tang, and now he starts getting you to score movies and acting it and this and this and that. It's just a talking point.

and so with us we figured out like you being around you doing this show right you do know I'm all about the money your uh uh uh jada I watch you I'm watching where's the money where's the train this coming baby

the train this coming baby the train that's coming because the point is I'm looking at you and you don't even know what you said you're like yeah I went to the boxing match I did you know I worked you know I went there for work I'm over here. I work.

This ain't even no more about bars, or I had to do a feature, or I have to distance. This ain't no more about bars or songs. It's just we work. And we do different assignments, and at the end of the day, we come up with a pile of money. So it's not really based on selling records or the streams. If we put our music now, which I just put out an album, the world changed on me, which is phenomenal, right? It's really art for our fans. trying to strike it rich off the shit

right and so we do all these different things to just bring home the money at the end of the day and so that's where hip-hop is hip-hop is just a talk that's why you got coffee you never in your life sitting in

front of that gas station and fucking yonkers I know the gas station what was the Halliburton that ever saw that was never it that's the gas station right You never thought you selling coffee. I never thought I was going to sell a hair dye for men.

Rewinded 10. But that's where we graduated to being entrepreneurs. Now we sell hair. You know, I sell fucking beard dye. You know what I'm saying? Rewinded at 10. And sneaker stores. We're in a sneaker store now.

Coffee, you know what I mean? We selling juices. Weed. Pharmacy for life. You got weed. We got weed. for life. We got everything

don't put us in jail, guys. This is legal. This is legal. It's all legal. We got everything don't put us in jail. We got everything.

Don't put us in jail. We got to get the hoodys. We got everything. Don't put us in jail. We need to merge. I'm dead ass. I'm like, yo, we don't want to go to jail. We're not trying to.

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But it costs a certain price to get Fat Joe to perform. It's just the bottom line. That's what, that's inevitable. No, no, I'm just saying it costs a certain price. Somebody paid the price. I show up

and it's an old school at noon or Fat Joe's the headliner. But I'm in Philly. So everybody, me and you came out with they're on the lineup. Right? So these are all legends at a time or whatever the case.

I'm looking at dudes. they're missing their fucking teeth. They're looking at me like I'm a fucking hieroglyphic. I've had rappers grab my shoulder and stare in my face to see if it's Botox or some shit. Like they're looking at me like, how the fuck? I don't get high guys. I don't do nothing wrong.

The most I do is drink a diet Pepsi. Other than that, you fucked if you're going to catch me. So I watch rappers, my peers, look in my face, grab my shoulder and stare at me like I'm a fucking, Egyptian fucking pyramid like yo how this

this thing is still looking all right this this that these guy

got no teeth I see this one guy they would have thought the same

about me if you put my age on the cake no but

listen now you doing great you doing you doing you

have me fool you have me fool you yo I'm looking at one

rap up big time legend he's dancing around the

Henacy body he's dancing and so I'm telling y

I've been in San Chay a long time, Dubai, I've been doing big tours and festivals for a long time. He's not gray. He's not black. No, somebody afforded me

in the old school at noon. Somebody said the bag. Yeah, Joe, when I pull up his former female sex symbols, they fatted in fat, Joe. And so I'm looking at the shit.

I'm almost peeking out the window. like out the door I'm peeking I'm like yo this is crazy like motherfuckers just fucked up but the point is you got to take care of yourself

preserve yourself know that you got to be you know what I'm saying I ain't saying no vegetables vitamins diet Pepsi's let me tell you something shit yo listen shit crazy out here man

but you got to take care of yourself man because it's a horror show if you don't. And so we see shit out here sometimes where it just don't make sense to me. You know, when I see legends looking

fucked up, I see people looking fucked up. I see people not taking care of themselves, man. It's just too much shit and at certain age, you need to adjust and take care of you. You can't sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50-something years old. You know, you over there thinking you, Tony

Montana at 30, I'm not. advising that you sniff a mountain of cocaine at 50 because your ass is done. I'm not advising you sniff a mountain of cocaine at any age. I'm in my crib, Miami, and I'm always early, right? I think you beat me here today, right? First time. He beat me here. But I'm always early. So I'm ready. I'm ready to shoot the shit from the house. They're like, yo, Jada's a little late. I said, why? He said, he's in a gym. I had to respect that.

I said, damn, this guy's in the gym. And for 50 years old, you could do all that shit. I see you up there push-ups and some assorts and shit. You're doing some shit on one-to-arm. Like, that shit, what the fuck? Was your Pops Cock Diesel or something? Not at all. No, I'm asking you.

So where do you get this shit from doing the bar work, the diss, the day? I'm looking at you. Jim Jones is Cock Diesel. It's a snowstorm. He's doing. He gets it in. No, in the snow, he's doing push-ups. Anyway.

Is that something special or something? Like, he's doing push-ups in the snow with fucking a chain on them and shit. Like, my thing is, you know. This thing is nice. Yo, no, I be looking at y'all working out. I'm like, yo, this shit crazy. Moving in his medicine, Joe.

I got to give it up to you. No, man. Just move a little. Just do a little move. No, I'm moving. I'm good, bro. I'm just not cocked diesel. I don't believe my body.

My body is like Tyson Fury. That was a good comparison. Oh, shit. That was the second best thing he ever said. Let me tell you. He'll knock you out. Hell, yeah. But he looked flabby and sick.

Like, you're looking at Tyson Fury. See, you don't look flabby and sick. No, I don't look flabby and sick. But the man, the man looked like he was the chair. He retired. Oh, he's still funny. The man can't get a six back. He knocked bad.

He got some shit in there. Right? Yeah. So I'm like that. You know. I'm not caught diesel. I'm not hanging off the side of a building. Make sure that's the clip.

Listen, that got to be a clip. I'm like Tyson Fury. That was the 100. I'm trying to get crazy and shit. That ain't this. It's tracking this. Got it, nigga. So I think about Jamest to Jay, one of the, you know, back in the day,

it's before your time, Jada. Thank you. Before your time. The DJ was more. prominent than the rapper, than the MC. Definitely. So you had like Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. You had one DMC Jam Master Jay.

You know the DJ Scott LaRock and Karen. The DJ was really, really famous at one time. And Jam Master Jay, not only was he an insane DJ, a member of one of the greatest groups, or he brought artists to the game, like Onyx. Now, I think he was the first person to sign 50 cents. Like, he was ahead of his time, and, you know, he got gunned down, unfortunately. But I think about Jamest J, what a producer, you know, and it just leads me off. I said, this episode been really insightful, but I get to thinking about, like, who's the top five producers of all time?

with what you just said you know the DJ turned into the producer if you asked me a lot of them a lot of producers can actually DJ and a lot of DJs

most of them all you know a man his name is DJ for man you know that right you know we can just shut the shit down one of the greatest producers ever

his name is still DJ you know we can shut that Swiss is a DJ man he fresh is a DJ all the legendary produced Tim and Link, you know what I mean? So it's almost like if you think about a rapper with ghostwriting, right? Do you rate a producer that has a bunch of other producers

bringing shit to the table, or do you think the producer needs to produce by himself everything, sample, whatever? I think it's different. A rapper with a ghostwriter shouldn't be compared to a producer that has a staff that, I mean, you might have instrument players. He might have a certain engineer to get the sound that he wanted.

Somebody might come in and only do this drum pattern for him. But if he created it from the beginning and they just helping them enhance it, that ain't the same as a ghost writer. A rapper with a ghost writer. So, in that case, man, there's some serious producers out there

because I only had one main one on the list which is what you said, the obvious primo because I watch him chop everything up and do it himself. I've been in the rooms. You've been in the rooms with somebody like Kanye that got a bunch of producers, and of course he's throwing the sprinkled to it and he's getting what he wants out of it.

I'll say like a Dr. Dre worked with Scott Stoartz. You know, Scott Storz did all that. He plays the instrument. Hey, man. Swiss, I've been with Swiss since he, We was telling them to get out of here. You pull him in, pull out his MPC.

We told him, go back to the drawing board for years until he finally got it. Then the whole room, it went from the whole room going, ah, nah, to the old, holy shit, this is crazy. So it's a journey. And then once you get your sound and you hook the people, I don't know what you do from there because I ain't a producer. So I say DJ Premier

Be careful with your five This is why this is going to keep going Because it's more than five But go, go your five I'm going to do my five It's way more than five But we only got you to top five Ha ha!

Top five did all life I heard you say this a thousand It really Top five of anything Golf Top five of rat Top five of paint is really your creation

when you say yes every jeweler I meet is Gary the jeweler Bobby the jeweler that's because Jacob the jeweler was the original one that blew up you started that top five shit

forever bigger you be in the library top five book dead or alive that's reference back to you I appreciate it but I'm a lightly declined the credit for that I'm going to say DJ Premier.

Let's go. I'm going to say Dr. Drake. Let's go. Cheating. I'm not cheating. I mean, you talk about the best in the game. My five could be whatever. You want to skip my five.

You want to skip my five. No, no. No, you're stealing all the five. No, you're all right. Say two. No, no, no. You say two then. I don't want to snatch.

I got five. I don't want to snatch. No, do two. No. Do two. No. Do two. No, no, no, no. We're going to go two.

I'm trying to get you in on this. All right. Just do five. DJ Premier. Hold on. Do any five. Hold up. Five is five.

Shut the fuck on. Let's go. DJ Premier. Dr. Drake. Derrissa. Kanye West. And I go havoc for Mar Dee. That's that.

That's a mean five. You wanted me to shoot my son. That was a mean five. I tried to give you a play for play. You know? And the honorable mention. The mean five. The D-I-T-C.

I ain't added shit. See, he twists the whole room. I'm not. You know, listen. But now I'm kind of going back. We should have fucking left Dr. Dre and them make is out of it because you're cheating. But still, I'm going with Swiss because he started with me. Look, I'm going to Swiss.

is not the top. Because he's got to make the list because that's my brother. There you go. Right? Forrell. Mm. You know what I mean?

I'm going with Scott Storch. Yeah. That's a mean pack. I'm now. You got to switch forrell, Scott Storch. Right? Oh, long.

What do you think about it? Just because I said a guy don't mean you can't double down on it. I know I can use them. I'm not. I'm just, I'm not going to use it for personal purposes. So far, you got a phenomenal team there.

Where's Farrell Scott Storke's Timberland? Timberland R and B-Tel. Timberland both. Timberland. Timberland just as Timberland. All the shit he did from his. And then-in-da-da-da-da-all. What's the shit with Jay-Z and Beyonce?

All of that. Oh, my God. All that. All that. I'm a movement by myself. And I'm what I'm saying? Timbo got the joint rights. With those Just Blaze.

I mean, I needed something like that from you because from you being the underground king, you definitely went commercial on it. I want to go big. It's still left out bank. We left out Mani Fresh. We left out Pete Rock. We left out fucking Q-Tip.

Q-Tip. We left out mad niggins. Lost professor. We left out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I know it's mad shit. We left out. You left out.

The nine-quarter. Shame on you. Not because I'm, this, my producers know that I loved them. Oh, you know. You know what I love? You know I love. You don't have to tell you yourself.

Fuck, wow. We left things out. That's not supposed to get left out. But it's hard when there's only five. But we just did a little top five because that's your shit. Oh, man, is it? Shut out the boost mobile.

Go get yourself. the whole trap of phone, everybody, the block, the whole bus ride in the summer. You know, in the summer, we used to go to Six Flags, Great Adventures, the whole block. As Dorney Park. Like, get the whole bus. What's the shit in V8?

Oh, me and Pundner had a show where it used to do. We did the shit we go wooden in your family in V.A. where we used to, it ain't there. Hershey Park. Kings Dominion. Now, me, rest of me and Pondon at that show. King Dominion before. That's Virginia.

Yeah, me and putting out of the show there. I got stranded there one time. That's a long story. Stranded. The whole bus broke down with all. My whole projects were sitting on the side of the road for like 20 hours. Another bus came and brought us back to the bones. Kings of me and shout out, AJ, GP, all of them will do it together.

This has been Joe and Jada. We're flaming out there. That ain't this. This ain't that. And it's cracking kiss. And it's number one. And we're not going to stop now. I'm headed to Dubai.

Shout out Rasha Belize and get married. I'm going to a wedding. Then I'm going to end up at San Josepay in Monaco because my brother Norrie, his wife, Neri. It's her birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy belated.

You know what I mean? I'm celebrating as well. And then we're going to land back on Primif Rock. And we're going to shoot a bunch of, I'm not laying off. Don't think I'm not laying off. For Plymouth Rock. I thought Plymouth Rock landed on us. Landed on us.

And yo, shout out. I got to say with something, Ben Crump, Attorney General, Black Attorney General. He's looking for me. I got to get with Ben Crump. And shout out to Malcolm X family. I went to his 100th birthday up in Harlem.

It's crazy because they took over the center where he got murdered. So they celebrated it. They did a 100th anniversary of his birthday. So Lauren Hill, our sister came up there, right? You know I started with the Fugees. I don't know if you know Foojee started with digging

in the cruees. Fulji Lai was my beat. Salam Remy made for me. See, I left out Salam Ritt. Look, dog, he was posting to make the list. Lauren went up there, spoke some words of wisdom. She ripped it down, legend. She started, funny how money changed situation.

And so I have a seen Lauren face-to-face in the long time. And so I pull up on Lauren. I'm like, sis, she said, I love you, Joe. I felt so good that night. I got in the car. I drove the jersey, and I was like, yo, Lauren says she loved me.

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