Joe and Jada - John Leguizamo on playing Pablo Escobar, 'Carlito's Way' & Latin representation in Hollywood

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by John Leguizamo, the Queens-born actor, comedian, and playwright now starring as Pablo Escobar in the first authorized Escobar story, the Spanish-language Hulu series 'Dear Killer Nannies.' Leguizamo breaks down what it was like playing Benny Blanco in 'Carlito's Way,’ the real drug dealer he based his performance on, and what he thought about Al Pacino playing a Puerto Rican. Joe and John reminisce on working together on the 2002 film ‘Empire,’ and Joe talks about writing “My Lifestyle” during the shoot using the all the gangster themes as inspiration. Then, they talk Pabo Escobar: which actor portrayed him best, Pablo’s son consulting on the show, the legends behind what happened to his $30 billion, and why there will never be another gangster like him again. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 8:00 Joe & John's 2002 film 'Empire' 10:00 Lack of Latin representation in Hollywood 13:00 'Carlito's Way' & Benny Blanco's legacy 22:00 Why Fat Joe CAN'T retire 31:00 Playing Pablo Escobar in 'Dear Killer Nannies' 46:00 What happened to Pablo's $30 billion? 52:00 Why there will never be a gangster like Pablo again 58:00 Joe tells hilarious Terror Squad storiesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Share each day with me each night, each morning. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I didn't like the movie the first time I saw it. to the movie theater. I'm telling you. That's a left turn on the highway. That's a flag. I'm driving.

90 miles on the highway. That's a flag. Yeah, yeah, a flag. A flag on the plate. Two flags. That's three flags. Let me tell you why. What the fuck you mean?

You didn't like it. Yeah, yeah. What up, y'all? This is your boy Joe Cracked the dawn. You know who it is. Your boy, Jada kiss. It's the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary.

Every show iconic. Stop. Stop. mortals is here. And I don't know if y'all... I don't know if y'all gonna be able to handle what's going on it. You know, the apology is always

less louder than the initiation. You know, the apology. But yeah, again, continue. Well, you think of today's guests. All right. You think funny. You think Queens, New York. You think one-man shows like freak.

You think Broadway. movie screens. And now a Spanish language series on Hulu called Darekiller Nannies. You think of a man who turned pain into punchlines and built a whole career. Nobody can argue.

When you think about today's guests, you think I come. Ladies and gentlemen. Can I but hope? Betty Blanco from the Browns, Scottie. You definitely. What you doing that right now? You're kidding me.

You kidding me. You had that one in the chamber. When you think of today's guest, fucking Benny Blanco from the Bronx, better know. Benny Blanco from the Bronx did so much for our coaches. Oh, my, man. It's on the night.

Ladies and gentlemen, makes some noise for John Linguishat. Thank you, man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Man, that was great. What a great intro. I'm, like, I'm embarrassed. Thank you.

You guys are the best, man. No, I appreciate you. Thanks for joining the couch with me and my brother. Our production staff is like the Avengers Day. They do a great job. I mean, you got a serious staff here, man. This is insane. How many people got here?

That's a big payroll. It varies. It varies. Now, let me tell you, some artists come up in here with an entourage of like 40. You know, I'm old already. So I've been through every face. Oh, yeah, you've seen it all. You've seen it all, for real.

So when I see them coming in here with a 40 clip, I'm immediately thinking like- But you're doing the math of that. You're doing the bank. How much is that? 40 hotel rooms. Even if somebody in our family, they're still going to be on the payroll somehow. Yeah. And the gas for those SUVs and the Uber's, that costs money too.

Gas right, man. They get hungry. Entourage always gets hungry. Yo. And you don't want to eat where they eat. You want to eat where you want to eat is way more expensive. So that's 100 bucks to pop. So you got 40 deep times.

$100 a person? Sometimes it's a female artist coming here with 30 people and I'm just, you know, the way I do it now, I'm old, man, it's like I'm sitting on a porch here. I'm looking at it, I'm like, yo. Yeah. It's going to caution.

This is a cautionary tale about to happen. Yeah, yeah. Oh. You know what I mean? You know what I help people all the time. I'm glad. helps people all the time. That's what I hear on the street.

It's the truth, though. I know. Like, I mean, truth. Like, you know, when I go to heaven, when I go to meet the man, you know. Not for a long time. Yeah, but I hope I, you know, some of these homeless, you know, I got a routine of like homeless. You know, one day I'm hanging out with the Royal family of Dubai, right? Right.

When they come to New York, they only hang up with fat Joe. They like to eat too, so they're like, yo, Joe, let's go to a steakhouse. I'm like, no problem. I got my age show set up. We're walking there. beautiful day in New York and everybody's just walking up and they're like, yo, Joe, and I'm like Honey here, honey here,

they don't, that's not in Dubai. They don't see that in Dubai. They don't believe in Charlie. He said, Joe, why? No, I don't know if they don't believe in chat, but what? Are you looking up with them? Why are these people coming up to you, Joe? I'm like, you know, I know all of them. Yeah. I do that shit every day in my life.

Well, that's good. That's good. You always put out good. More good comes to you. You're generous. The world will be generous back. I mean, it's karma. isn't it? That's how I feel. I think you should find a way to try to write that off.

Right. I mean, that would be the math enough, man. These homeless they want cash, man. They're not like,

they got to know. No, but Cass is charity. Cass is charity. It's a charitable donation. 50 C-13. Oh, shit. You know.

Not for profit. You know, John, you want to know what's the craziest thing is, what's the craziest thing, Joe? Is that the man is giving you your intro

and he says, funny. And the last thing I think of John Legguzamo for it because he plays such a gangster role in all these movies is funny. But the man's funny. I went to your one-man show. I seen all your shit.

What was your father's name in the show? My father's name, please. And the one-man show, Festa? What was that name? Fausta, Fausta. Fausta. But I thought not to say my father's name. Faustra.

Yo, that shit was hilarious, man. But, you know, Why can't you do both? Why can't you be a comedian and why can't you be an actor? You can do both. You just have to work harder because they're both demand different things from you and you just got to deliver on each aspect differently. It's like athletes who can do football and basketball or baseball.

No, we appreciate you for both. It's just, you know, you know. Because you get older, you got to change up your game anyhow. Yeah, I love all your gangster shit too. You know, I wasn't my favorite gangster shit that we did. Please some noise for that. Yeah. Woo.

Everybody always talks about that scene when you pop this lever and the rifle flies out from the back of the couch and shotgun. Let me tell you the best part of that movie. That put me into like a space where I think one of my best, probably my very best gangster song I ever did, my lifestyle, I wrote it whenever we had a break in the trailer. Yeah, yeah. Because we was doing that movie and all that gangsters shit was going on.

I'm, y'all want to live my lifestyle. Buckwell sent me the beat. I wrote the shit on the set of that movie in the trailer. Every time we took a break, I went back up in there, another bar, another two bars. You're like a method rapper. Like, you were being gangster and you were writing gangster rap. Yeah, but the movie was so gangster. It was.

I mean, Frank Rayford wrote about his own life. He wrote about his own family and people that he knew in the same. South Bronx. It was legit. I mean, that's what he was writing about. That's why Empire rocked so hard. Yeah, it did, man. And even me, you know, whenever it shows up at two in the morning someday, I start watching that shit. If it comes on TV at two in the morning, I'm like, dude, I got to tell you, that movie was really special because it cost two million dollars to make back in the day. And when it came out in December during Christmas time, it was number eight on the billboard.

It was number eight against movies that were 50, 60, 100 million. And we were number eight and stayed up there for about a month on the top. That's how hot the movie was. It was also ahead of his son. Oh, yeah. He saw about somebody who wanted to get out the game and invests on Wall Street, but it was a scam. He had Bernie Madoff before Bernie Madoff.

And also a Latin director, Latin writer, you know, the whole Latin cast. That was way ahead of its time too. And we were making bank. And there should have been an empire too. Frank Ray's the director should have had a ton of movies. If he was a white director and a white writer, he would have been offered everything. And instead, you know, you just got to keep retelling,

please look at this script. Please look at this. And you always got to keep begging and it. It gets tiring. I like to whine and complain. That's right. I like to bitch. So what?

No, that's true. If I can't complain here, what the fuck? No, I'm being. honest with you, that's really my problem with Hollywood. Like, I call it Hollywood. Because it has been Hollywood for us forever. I mean, I have great success in it, but at the same time, it's still not what it should be. You know what I mean?

It's still, we're still like, we're 20% of the population. We over indexed at the box office at 30%. We're a third of sports fans. Where is our 30% of the, of the movies, of the, of the, of the, of the casting, of the executives. Where is that? I want that. I want 20% because that's our parity.

I'm going to tell you a story. I don't want to keep talking about with my partner. No, no, but there was once a guy, right? And I know he's going to know. I'm pretty sure he bought him. No, he was a good guy. I can't say, but they made him the president of one of the biggest studios. Which one?

Oh, my God. Listen, big time. Okay. This guy. Give us a name. initials. This guy was running the show, and I knew him, and we had friends in common.

Every time I go to L.A., we would have dinner together, and I would sit down and be like, yo, what movie you put now? Oh, nothing. And I remember that, yo, but you know, you're in the hot seat, bro. You could put out a bunch of Latino movies, black movies, this. He was the man. He answered to no one.

This guy was hiding under his death so long until they figure out, hey, this guy, Johnny, ain't doing nothing. Time to get rid of them. It's like these people work to get in these positions, then they get gunshot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They scared to pull the trigger on the movie

because if it doesn't succeed, then they're fired. Well, you hit it up, you hit it right there because that's what the industry is. It's based on fear. Everybody's afraid of losing their jobs, so everybody's afraid of making a mistake and pulling the trigger and green lighting shit.

I mean, David Soslav, the guy who's doing that big deal, the big merger right now, With Warner Brothers HBO and the L and the L. 70 billion that one? Well, his whole thing was zero production. That's how he grows the value of the company. But you can't have a production company that doesn't produce.

Of course you're not having- Well, he did. But it's a fake premise, bro. It's a Ponzi scheme. And that's why they're shitting on that deal right now because, yeah, anyway, what we're talking about. Let's talk about my shirt.

coming out before I... Before we get in a... Well, you're a one-man's show in regular life. Before we get into the new show, I got some Carlito. No, let's get into the new show. I got some Carlito questions. I was that. Carlito is one of the movies that feel like every character was real life.

Yeah, it was. Every, it feels like it wasn't a character. Sheda, you were right. I mean, because the writer was a New York Puerto Rican judge who wrote about his life growing up in Spanish Harlem. So he knew what he was talking from, you know? And, you know, they cast Luis Guzman and myself to bring a little authenticity. Because, you know, the lead

was supposed to be Puerto Rican, but it was played by a white guy playing Puerto Rican, which is, you know, it was what they used to do back in the day. They won't let us be our heroes and our stories. He played a legendary role. Yes, the white guy. He played in that. The white guy. The opposite. I don't think that. Why you got to name him, man? Because he's the legend of all.

He won't name that executive, but he'll name Pacino in the movie. He's a bad motherfucker out. No, he is. It's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. There's a lot of white actors that I respect. I'm not disrespecting them.

I still love my white actors. Well, you think a Latino could have played that role. Hell yeah. Why not, yo? We had Andy Garcia. We had Benjamin Brad. We had Benicia. We had tons of people who could have played it.

But they wouldn't give us those lead roles. I mean, Pachino played Latino twice. And how many other brown face? Too iconic, though. Yes. That would have made a star. Scarface. Yes.

And fucking Carlito's way. Yeah. But imagine you put a Latin actor in that role, man. They would have been superstars. The Latin actor was Benny Blanco from the Blanc. Or was it Sasso? The pig that didn't fly straight. This fucking movie.

Let me tell you something. I didn't like the movie the first time I saw it. We all into the movie that I'm telling you. That's a. have turned on the highway. That's a flag. I'm driving. That's a highway.

You're a flag. Yeah, yeah, a flag. A flag on the plate. Two flags. That's three flags. Let me tell you why. What the fuck you mean you didn't like it? Let me tell you why.

I don't know if I want to know why. No, no, no. It ain't even your fault. Nobody's fault. I'm coming off of Scarface. We've lived. I mean, if we keeping it real,

scoffics. I know, but Scarface. Same director. Brian DePama, one of the great. Scarface kind of like destroyed my whole crew's life growing up. We sold drugs because of Scarface. We wilded out. I remember getting locked up.

My best friend was called Tone Montana, rest of peace. He got killed. I remember going to the priest and getting locked up with him. Him in human life putting his foot on the captain's table like, I am Tony Montana. And you have a job in the, niggins. We were like, shut the fuck up, get the fuck in the cell. Like, you know, we were brainwashed.

So when Carlito's Way came out, we thought it was like Scarface Part 2. And when he walks around Spanish Harlem and everybody's like, yo, we like, oh shit. You see Chi Chi Chi and that spot and the Chi Chi rest in peace, Chi Chi get the Yale, Angel Salazar, right? Right. He comes up, so I'm thinking Scarface too. Yeah, yeah. It's on. The whole movie theater thought that.

by the way. And then it turned into a love story with ballet, with this, with that. But years later, understanding life. Right, right, right. That movie's one of the greatest movies ever made in the history of mankind.

I got to understand the love story. He's trying to break away. Right, right. Trying to get out the business and the business won't let him go. Yeah, so at first, I'm thinking it's Scarface part too. And then I'm like, yo, this is a fucking love story

with a white girl, The ballet, like what the fuck? You was the only person we could relate to in that scar faces because you walking up in there. You're Benny Blanco from the Bronx. What was that like playing Benny? Was there anybody you thought of like

I'm playing this guy? I knew this guy. I grew up with him. What was it? It was. It was a cat that I was hanging out with. Yeah, he was a drug dealer. And I shouldn't have been hanging out with him because I didn't realize I was kind of stupid and thought I was invincible somehow, but hanging out with him

was really dangerous because his brother had gotten shot just walking around the neighborhood like that because they were both drug dealers, everybody knew who they were. So it was stupid of me to go with him to the where he stores where the stash houses and all that, and I was doing all that. So yeah, I based it on somebody

directly because that's why I had that kind of fire and juice, but also Brian DePama taught me so much, man. He gave me so much law in that movie, so I got to return it. We had just done Carlito casualties of war with Sean Pan and Michael J. Fox and Bing Rames, a Vietnam movie. And then he cast me as as Benny Blanco in the Bronx. And, yo, back then that was real film, 35 millimeter.

You got four or five takes. He gave me 30 takes on my entrance because he enjoyed the crazy shit that I was doing. But that taught me how to act, man, because everything I did, I came and I knocked down the waiters, tray. But you walk in. Yeah, yeah. I did 30 different times. That was a real drug dealers walking. Like, you had the chest out.

Like, looking at the shit. Like, you had that shit to a science. Yeah. It was so much fun, man. And Pacino, I was improvising everything. De Palma allowed me to put all my friends at my booth in the club and the discotheque. I had my ex-wife. We won't talk about her.

And then all the other people were like Nelson Vasquez. How much she took? She took a lot. At the time. it was almost 50% of what I had. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Jesus is Lord.

She's in LA. She's not going to hear this. Yo, Jesus is Lord, man. Why? You, you, you had a... No, no, no, no. We didn't have that. Who's had a good divorce?

Nobody's had a good divorce. But that's it. It's quiet in the room. No, no, because with no disrespect, because I got a lot of friends, they divorce wives, but that's like that you consider that a job now. Like,

well, you're going to lose 50%? sex athletes and all that. Like that, like, and then they become businesswoman. Once you give them that 20, 30 million, their new shit under their Instagram and everywhere, it's like, yo, this is the business lady from this and this and that. And the only business they did was taking niggins money. This shit is out of control, money. I'm sitting there like, the business woman of the year.

I got to throw a flag in there. Before we all get canceled and shit. I got a lot of sisters How many ex-wives do you have, Joe? I don't have ex-wives. The problem is, anyway, it's a huge hustle these days. No, it's a huge hustle.

But, yeah, so that movie changed my life, Carlito's Wai. You know what's interesting to me, Joe, is that Scarface, because there's such few Latin representation, and we had no positive. representation in that era. It was all like drug dealers because everything in Miami Vice,

every Latin character was a criminal. And then you, if they had more positive Latin images, would you have gone into a more positive path? Because Scarface was even a white guy playing a Latin guy. I was just headed for the wrong path. You no matter what?

I had a father. He worked his ass off. I had a mother. She worked her ass off. I had love in the crib. And I was just looking for the wrong shit, no matter what. So, you know, what happened? No, it's the truth. I had a father that loved me. He worked his ass off.

Like, there was days my father would come home and dressed like you and fucking just throw himself on the bed and we saw him the next morning. He didn't even, worn out, worn out. They had that motherfucker working. Yeah. And my mom, same shit. And I still, the minute I could run to the streets, I ran to the streets, I ran to the streets.

That was very ambitious, you know, almost like Benny Blanco. I was very ambitious. You're still very ambitious. That hasn't gotten away. No, no, no, no. No, it's something I'm blessed with because there's so many people that choose to live a mediocre life. They choose to, all right, we did it already.

You know, I'm at the point. I ain't even going to lie to you. If I put my lifestyle down, you got to put it down. You got to move somewhere where it's cheap or something like. that I don't got to work no more. Right. I could just watch TV and shit. Oh, you're downside so you could...

Yeah, you're... Well, that's smart. That's a smart move. That's a down side, yeah. That's a small move, but not for me. Oh, see, I'm Benny Blanco. I'm still walking out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got all that blames. That can't be too. Yeah, I got to come up in this restaurant. I got to be in all the hot spots. But I am saying if I ever wanted to get myself a nice affordable middle-income, nice house and watch Jeopardy, At 7.30, I could do it. You could do it. But that's not you. That's not you. You got too much going on.

No, I got to get. I've got to be in this shit. You know, that's the story of my life. How much is this gig pay you? How much is this gig pay you? It's paying really good. How much is really good? I need numbers. I can't. This guy won't give me, he won't give me initials.

He won't give me numbers. What do I get out of this? Listen, my ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-wife will be coming for some fucking money if she's sees the dogs out of this motherfucker. Huh? Oh, that's what he missed. A caron.

That's a caron. Yo, you crazy? You don't want Tita from the block coming for a fucking lifetime warranty. That bitch, are you crazy? I can't tell them numbers.

That's a new thing I don't do, though. What was that? Was that? Whoa. No pre-nups? No, we come from nothing. Right? Right.

So everything, since the beginning of of rap music has always been bragging. Mm-hmm. Ravado. Of course. Right. You know, fucking Melly Mell still living the process.

He was like, Shimmer Pell, Melly Mell. They was talking about that shit from, but in any case, back in the days when any rapper would get a big check or some new success, they would announce it. Right, right. Right, right. I 97. Yeah.

First guy from Brooklyn to make eight million. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put their shit up on the rap. And then motherfuckers will be running in the street in the hood. Like, yo, homeboy made eight bills. Now you'd be lucky to see me say I made $2. You could figure it out. Do the math.

Look at me. I just go look at celebrity worth and I go, boom, fat shows. That's not true, though. How is it not true? Too little or too much? I got to watch the cost more than what they say my net worth is. That shit been lying a long time ago. Trust me what I'll tell you.

It's way off. It's way off. Beyond. Oh, good. Good to know. But my thing is I looked it up before I came. I don't brag about. Because I was going, he's worth a lot more than that.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Utopia! No, no, no, that's Utopia. Deer killer. They're killing nannies, man. It's so dope, man.

It's the first authorized Pablo Escobar story. And you know, white actors in America all have to play Hamlet. All Latin actors have to play Pablo Escobar. Of course, Benicia Toro did it. Javier Bardem did it. Wagner did it. Now I'm doing it. But I think I got the best accident and the best.

Yes, sir, bro. You check it out. You don't. I'm going to watch. I just was watching Pablo yesterday. Look at some YouTube Pablo Escobar video and then look at what I. I'm doing, see how there's no difference.

I can tell you about Popeye. His hip bit is hit me still walking around Columbia. I watched Pablo. I was completely. I was he was talking to say Popeye. I thought he was talking to live in Colombia. I was talking all the timepice. Woo!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to meet the real Popeye because he's out there in Colombia. I didn't get to meet the real Popeye. But I studied his videos. I met his son, Pablo Escobar's son, who changed his name. Nice guy.

Just seen the thing on his wife yesterday, too. Yeah, the dude escaped the sins of his father. Escape the lifestyle. He became a psychologist, travels around the world, giving speeches about positivity. Like, you really ran away from that. He could have chosen to keep going in the father's... Of course.

Because the reason that Pablo is still magnetic is because he's the wealthiest gangster that ever lived in the history of the world. He died with $30 billion back then, today's dates would be $70 billion. Let me, let's do a toast to the new series. Come on, two times.

This guy's called two times a felon. Don't tell me why he wears those shoes. I don't know. What kind of shoes is those? Pennylofer sneakers. Limit pepper hot steppers. He got the leakers. He wants to go double viral and I fell for it.

Man went viral with them fucking astronaut shoes he got on right now. He got pennies in the penny loafers? Yeah, he got sneaker penny loafers. You got a, penny in the penny door? That's a good question. He got to sit in the lower cartels on.

You shit. Yo. Oh, shit. He got the sitting the lowest. There you go. That laugh is the bad. Oh, shoot, those are a sneaker penny lover. Oh, my God.

Who the fuck advice? Oh, shit. I never seen those. I never seen those. Those are the skaddles. Yo, a toast to the new series. 1800. Toaster, dear killer nannies, streaming now, Hulu, Disney Plus.

Let's hear about it. Yes, yes, yes. Make sure we all go check it out. Enjoy it. I start watching the trailer, right? Yeah, yeah. And I understand Spanish much better than I speak it. But it started getting real.

It started getting, I needed to call somebody. It got over. You got to read it, subtitle. I try to leave no sub-tiles I try to get in, you know. Oh, you try to do without subtitles. Like, try to go like dual lingo with it. No, no, no, no.

You need subtitles. Especially Columbia, they talk. They talk fast. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, I try to talk to my fucking mother-in-law. She told you what you're eating for breakfast. She told you the whole menu, bro.

And one, that shit goes, that shit out of here. Like, huh? What? What? What? What? Like, now, they motherfuckers talk fast. Yeah, yeah, talk fast. You need the subtitles.

You know, I want to see that series because, to me, thus far, yeah. The best Pablo was the cheapest version. Which was that? Like a Pablo novella. Yeah, oh my God. That guy was good.

That guy was better than me. Don't say that. I'm going to admit that. I'm admit that. That guy was really good, huh? He was incredible, man, because he looked like him. He spoke like him.

Yeah. The novella guy. Yeah, that guy was killer. But I'm better than all the other North American actor. I'm better. I am. Go check it. Go take that motherfucker out.

To say it for you, I'm watching the shit with 20 black guys. Every time that shit came on, we in the studio in Miami, we all watch them reading the subject. We didn't miss one part of the studio. Dude, that series is incredible. That shit is 80 episodes. You didn't watch all 80. We watched it every day.

Not 80 episodes. You're too busy making money. How's that celebrity war is going to get bigger if you're watching TV? We were recording pre-podcasts. We was in the studio 20 deep every fucking night watching that Pablo. I believe you. When it first came out. Watch this series, man, because the son gave up all the intel on what was happening

behind closed doors. And even though Pablo was this sociopath. gangster assassin, he showed love to his kids, like hugged and kissed. And in Columbia back in the 80s, pops were tough love. They weren't hugging and kissing.

Like my dad, when I was growing up, he was like, every day you get stupider by the moment. Congratulations. How do you become even stupider than yesterday? That was love back then. Yeah.

But not Pablo, because Pablo was on death store all the time. So he hugged his son, kissed him, said, I love you publicly and everything. He got cold because of his family. Say what?

He got caught because of his family. They tell gangsters you have children. That's your new Achilles heel. That's how they're going to get you. And that's how they got them. Man, what a fucking story, man. I was just, it's crazy. I'm so, I don't know if it's a pause,

but infatuated with Pablo and his lifestyle. It was just yesterday I'm watching the story of his wife and how he met her. He met her really, really young. Well, they were both young, but she was really young. He was like, she was like 13. Yeah, it was, it was cancelable, young. How was he?

He was 21. 21, but still, I mean, that's still way too young. No, that's not right. That's inappropriate. Not at all, but back in the days, was that? It wasn't, it wasn't the 1800s. It was 1980. Come on.

It was still not cool. It was not appropriate. It was crazy. It wasn't cool. No, but he had mad power and he thought he could do whatever the fuck he wanted. So he thought that, yeah, but that's wrong. Yeah, that was wrong. Now, Pablo did a lot of foul shit.

Of course. If you believe, wife is alive. Yeah, she's still alive, yeah, yeah. He's got two kids, and his son is doing great, man. He authorized this show. He consulted on it. He talked to the writers.

There's dialogue in here that I go. There's no way. This is incredible. This is not dialogue. These are spoken words that had a life. These words were actually said. And when he confronts his father, because the kid couldn't go to school

because the DEA will catch him or he'd be assassinating. The kids were scared of him. So he had to be homeschooled. And so Pablo got him these assassin nanny teachers that were his nannies, teachers, friends, and family.

But you can't control them. Yeah, but you can't control them either because they're not families. So some of them became informants. Powell had to kill them. The kid doesn't know what to do now. He's like, these people were my family, my friends, and you kill them.

And he says to him, If mom crosses you, you're going to kill her. If grandma looks at you the wrong way, you're going to kill her. These are actual words that the son talk to that. You want to know what's crazy about being a gangster, especially in America. Well, it's everywhere. But especially in America is, God forbid you born with the name Goddy, like John Gotti. You could be the 17th grandson.

You're already a criminal. You're in school and they're looking at you like, you're a mafia boss. They on your ass. They don't want to hear nothing. They lock up anybody. You know, what I noticed about life,

say, it's still feeding. Pablo Escobar, his son is given the rights to the movie. So they're still eating off the harvest last thing. But he's not taking the $30 billion that he could have had. I know. But what I'm saying,

that we know of. But listen to what I'm saying. Right, true that, true. Right. What we're saying is this. Right. I'm not even glorifying that like that. What I'm saying is when you look at the Roman empires and the movies and all that,

everybody always kept caring about their name. They were like, I'll break down every statue with your face on it. Your name will never be told in the streets, this, this, this, that. And it's all about your name. So these kids have you born Jonathan Gotti from fucking pre-K, they're looking at you like, he's going to federal prison. He's a gotty.

He's going to go. And Pablo's son's probably one of the only kids that was in this shit that was able for the enemy, not to murder him. Yeah. Because you know what? You kill so many people.

Absolutely. He had to change his name and run away. There's families of people that want to kill. Absolutely, absolutely. He was in it. Oh, no, he's in it. Well, he was a kid. His dad was shot at when he was 19 years old,

so he didn't really get into the game. And his dad was protecting him from that. But when his dad got shot, he was only 19, and he left, and he changed his name. The mom took them away from the country. They moved out, went incognito, and then he resurfaced, you know, after they had taken down the enemies. The government had taken them all down. Then he, then they resurfaced. But there was years and years to Bolivia or something, but you want to know what's crazy. If you think about Griselda, she went back to Columbia they murdered her on the

motorcycle guy came and murder her the first thing she touched down Columbia she was like Pablo's she was killing everything too they killed her they ain't let her living the minute the United States

Was that Pablo's people or was that the other car tell? No, just Columbia she killed so many people Yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what I'm trying to tell you Yeah yeah yeah no the people are going to come back to you Yeah somebody you know Unfortunately when you see these movies

and they see the little kid, what we're going to do with the little kid. They usually kill the little kid because they're like, he's coming back. You know, we killed this whole family. Yeah, he's going to want vengeance sometime. So this guy's very lucky that he's able to even... It's amazing how you know the psychology of it all.

I mean, he's like a Wikipedia on gangsterism, gangsterismism, hoodism. The kid's going to come back, kill him. But not this kid because this kid left alive. Yeah. His mother too. His mother's like an advisor or something like a... But it's true.

I mean, what happens to those $30 billion or $70 billion now? No, it's there. It's there somewhere. Do they keep finding this money and shit like that? No, nobody's found anything. There's a whole bunch of stories out about decayed, rodded. There's a farmer's story circulating about a farm. There was one farmer that,

found a bunch of money and they assume he turned it in. He's marked. They marked bills too, aren't they marked bills? Some of them. No, it's old school money. But he's not going on in. He's scared in there. You got a formula.

He finds 700 million. He's like, yo, get that shit out of here. In 2020, his next you found like $18 million in one of, an apartment in Medellian. And his nephew gave it up? Yeah, I found. Yeah.

I found 18 billion. He gave it back? Who gave it back? Fuck out of here. Let me explain. Sending you. this is the problem I have. What is the problem you have?

You will understand this. Maybe. I hope so. The world villainizes people, right? Martin Luther King was murdered. Right. Now, there's a Martin Luther King Highway everywhere. There's a Montelufa King High School.

Joe Lewis, they drove him crazy for taxes. The man was looking out the window of the box of Joe Lewis, thinking the government was coming to kill him because he owned taxes. Now you got Joe Lewis highways. You got Joe Lewis School. But these were heroes. I mean, they were heroes to us. Right.

Well, to the, they did good things. So what I'm trying to tell you is, my daughter went to Colombia, and she went to the museum of Pablo Escobar with the plane on top, the high scene. They still making money off this man that they murdered, and they called them a criminal and they assassinated, and he was the biggest shit in the world. To this day, Colombia is making money off of fucking Pablo Escobar. Right, but they have a, they have a hate relationship with Pablo.

They do not love him. Colombia because of all Who's making the money? I don't know who's making the money. They take you on Pablo Escobar. Well, the son is making the money off of this show, but that's not like, it's not 30 billion. I'm not saying him. I'm saying if we went

tourists to Colombia and we want to see Pablo. Don't denigrate my country. No, no, no. My wife's Columbia. Oh, okay, okay. We got good taste. Yes, thank you. But what I'm saying to you. A little, a little Colombiariqua.

Yes. Colomboiqua. We got that. But what I'm saying to you is if we I wanted to go to a tour of Pablo Escobar today. And you did it. There's people doing it right now. Well, I went to all the locations where he lived, all his, the big zoo that he had. I did all that when we were shooting because we shot it in Colombia in Medellegine near all the places that he actually did live. Wow.

Yeah, he did. You know, you know he had a big zoo and he had hippos. 15,000 animals, they said. Yeah, and they let the hippos out into like our Mississippi-type river, Magdalene. it's infested with hippos. You know hippos are the most dangerous animals on the planet. They let them go in the water.

Yeah, and they multiplied into the hundreds now. So they're no one to have to go out and clear, you know, do it with PETA, you know, approval. Euthanize them. Yo. Yo, ain't nothing, Peter.

Did I sidetrack too much? No, no. I have ADHD. I'm sorry. My brain goes everywhere. Oh, Okay, cool. No, this show, you know.

Yeah, yeah. You give us all you got, brother. I'm trying. I'm trying to try, baby. We're out here, you know. I'm here for you, man. We're trying to make this shit happen, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm.

So I'm definitely watching this series. Dude, it's an all-Spanish language show. I did the dubbing two for those people who don't like to read. Jeter Kiss, you can. No, I'm going to read it. You could, you do the duolingo thing and just watch it and not understand it. But, but you got to watch them. But I love that.

Vodiv. I love that. This actor, there's a famous actor. Every time they do something in Columbia, it's a little guy with red hair.

He's always in all of Pablo movies. What fucking movie I watched last night? I watched this shit called Agent Zena and he was one of the fucking spies

in the movie too. It was based out of Columbia. Oh, wow. You know the redhead Colombian actor? He played in that novella. He was in that. Gustavo.

Gustavo. In the novellas. In the novella. But he makes all the Spanish speaking movies. He makes every movie legit. He must have been in my movie. He has to be in that. He must be in my series made a legit seal of approval.

I don't know that cat. No. Uh-uh. But dude, I mean, this series is so cool because it's all from the POV of the kid. So it's because obviously the son gave us all the info, the intel on it. And it's all from his point of view of growing up

with these killer nannies that protected him and raised him. And he lived this wildlife that he was able to escape anyhow, which is the biggest beautiful part of the show is that you see him hit 19. He starts up as a little guy and his dad is loving and caring, but the dad has to like move them out of one place to the next because they're onto him. He has to sometimes not be with them so that he's a decoy, so I don't blow up his family. You know, so they're constantly living in paranoia.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Well, he did it longer than most gangsters. Out here now, all the gangsters I have a number. Run, face. Bro, all these gangsters now, you party

for a year. Right. You fuck every stripper you ever wanted to. You buy them watches, all type of shit. You drive around. live for one year, then you get a good old 40 years for it from the feds.

You have a one year run. Right. You're the guy. You Taco 104. You run as shit. You're in Starlets. Yeah. I'm just trying to tell you, you the guy. Champagne runs. Well, it's good. You know, come through. You got

one year run. You wore the fly jacket for a year. Next thing you know, you got to meet Jay to kiss the fat. Yo, yo, what's up? Next thing you know, you in there telling that story. For 40 years, how you was running shit in 2019. Then you're three time and four time, yeah. It ain't no problem with Eskabal

where you get the fucking be on the run for 15 years, this and this and that. A, B's in the building. No, I'm glad you're saying that, because that needs to be said that not to romanticize or idolize this type of lifestyle because it's a short-term, you know, it's a short-term deal, it's a short-term goal.

It's not-right about now with all these cameras and all that. Oh, shit, forget it. They could Jesse Smalley yet. You know, they're about to do it. They fake beat him up and they put the cameras all the way back to the motherfucker got out the car with the motherfuckers. He was rehearsing. They caught him on film in a studio rehearsing the mood.

Yo, when you punched me to the left, I'm going to look that way. You're going to sit out of control, huh? This motherfucker, y'all, this shit out of control. Yo, they're sick out here. Yeah, I know. Dude, now they're going to have drones that can follow you. No more police car chases.

A drone is going to follow you till you stop. That's the new thing coming. Put the heat seeking. Yes, the heat-seeking drone and comes after you till they get you. No, gangsterism is done. Mm-hmm. You got a police state. It's a police state.

Yeah, this shit out of control right now. Well, thank you all these motherfuckers is crazy. They're going to have drones that follow you to you. Yes. Yes. Windows coming. On the air ready, y'all. Don't make any plans.

Don't make any plans. I swear to God, they're using them in Jersey chasing dudes with the drone The dudes hiding in the thing And they be like, come out No, no, no, no, no They got those in. Do it, Palantir and Oracle

In our government That's, they're going to follow you, they're going to use Your ring in your house You're going to use your nest in your house Your, your whatever stupid Backroom thing to Zumba Rumba thing They're going to use all that to look at you Find you, GPS you

And you're going to be controlled They're going to lock you in your house. It's crazy. It's coming. Palantir will get all your info and data and combines it all to find out where you are, what you're doing and predict your behavior. Like the movies we used to see. Yes, but now it's the reality. Let me ask your question, right?

You can ask me anything. Movies prepare us for like where we're going in life, like some shit. Well, sci-fi does. I think sci-fi definitely does prepare us for a future because it's all imagination. And these writers have to. I don't think it's imagination. I think some of this shit is like they're letting us know, hey. Some of this research.

When it years from now, you ask, you know, George Justin had FaceTime. Mm-hmm. Meets George Jackson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jane, his wife. Now we got FaceTime. Yeah, yeah, for real. You thought that was never coming.

Now you take a shit, you press the wall and it flushes. Yeah. That was George Jessus. Uh-huh. At that time, we was up on the flingstones with the bullshit car, but George Jessus was letting me know. Food on a tray. Remember the food used to come out on a conveyor belt and the Jetsons?

We got that. A lot of times when movies win awards like the Oscars and all that, I'm like the guy who goes watches it the next day. I never saw Bologna. The Borgonia is crazy. That shit was it. That was crazy, man. Yo, how incredible was this movie?

I don't know how I felt about that movie, bro. I had a bit of a hard time with it because of the female violence. I was like, what's your point, bro? Oh, I'm never going to work with him now. Thanks a lot. Yo, Yargos! I was talking out of, I was talking smack about Yargos. What the fuck is wrong with me?

Just what? She blew up the whole world. What is in this drink, bro? Yo, that's the truth serum or some shit? But let me tell you something. Oh, fuck, I can't believe I said that. Yo, that shit was a bugged out movie, though. I said what?

It was bugged the fuck out. Oh, hell yeah. Good movie, begonia. It was interesting. You got to watch that shit. Don't boys. Yeah. Watch it.

boys was crazy the motherfuckers, man. I had to double watch that movie. I say, yo, you're a fucking crazy. The whole time I'm looking, I'm like... Give him the ending. Spoil the ending for everybody. Let me tell you about... He won't do it.

One thing that happened with that movie that was crazy. Don't get in my zone. They had the dumb cousin. Don't, don't say... No, no. Don't say dumb. We can't sue for that?

Because he's not acting. He's not active. Oh, no. No, no, he's a... Oh, no, God bless. I got a special niece. Oh, yeah, he's special... Last thing I'm doing is playing with anybody.

No, no, he's real special needs. That wasn't accurate. I didn't know that. No, no, no, that's why I wanted to alert you to that. No, no, no, no. God forbid that he did a phenomenal job. It was incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I know. What I'm saying is I didn't know, but what I'm saying to you is, it's like, we got an inside joke, right? What's that? You know, Terror Squad's my... crew. Hell yeah.

Rap, label, whatever. From way back when. And now we say, you're the leader. You're the what? I'm not the leader. Right. So, you know, now they try to lock record labels up like if they're gangs, like the mafia.

So everybody, we hand on the, we be like, yo, Serge, guess what? You're the leader now. I don't want it to. He'd be like, even the dumbest guy in Tether Squad calls me back. Not Serge. In two seconds. I am not the leader. I am not the leader.

You are the leader You are the leader Nobody wants to be the leader No, no, no Not the leader And if you ever notice In the movies They always take somebody

With a little low IQ And They put them there And they use them You know what I'm saying? We used to call that Throwing the battery in the back When you had a guy

That you knew he wasn't that smarter You could gas him To do anything Right, right, right Right You'd be like, yo, that guy I don't like them Maybe he should

get shot in his head. I don't know. This is that. Right, right. Johnny two times me like, really? The lady said he don't like Yeah, yeah. The guy don't like that now. Let's see what happens. Like, yo, this guy. I had one guy came home. I had one guy.

Okay? Let me just end. It's over. I never told this story. We had one guy we grew up with. And let me tell you something. This guy was dangerous. Right? Like a sociopath? Well, some of these guys, we just thought they were real guys in the hood.

Some of them were serial killers. Right, right. But this, well, anyway, one day we four deep, we in the Jeep, this is the 80s, and we're trying to rap to some girls, you know, fat Joe got a shirt off. You know, I used to go topless, my jewels on. Sexy. Yeah, I never was ashamed of being the fat guy. And let me tell you something

when them police come for murder I've been there three times when the police come for murder they come with tanks with fucking trucks with lights with this they come with so many police cars technology. No no not technology they know you killing. They're coming to get the killer

so what I'm trying to say is anyway we get locked up they throw us on the floor no reason nice hot day like today everybody's on the floor we go in the precinct we turn around and the one guy, he's looking at us and he's like, and we don't know, we're joking, we don't know what we're in there for, he's like, guys, remember what happened over there

at that, you know, shit we heard about. The guy got, you know, shot in that, man. I won't be seeing you are for a while. Oh, shit. He knew what they came for. We had no fucking clue. Yo, we suck my dick. Fuck your mother.

We don't know what we're getting locked up for. We, we got locked up. So he did about 15, 20 years or something. Damn. And everybody was coming back from jail. Like when you know how you go to jail to visit now, they used to come back and be like, yo, y'all got one. Y'all got one.

This motherfucker was stabbing everybody in there. They was like, y'all got one. There's a guy named such and such. Y'all got one. He laying it down in there. So legend, he comes home from jail. I'm already. fat Joe the rapper.

I'm a Jimmy's Bronx Cafe. You probably was in there with your crew at night. Jimmy's Cafe was the bomb, man. Dominican food. And they go, Joe. Look who just came on, such and such. Look at the guy.

He comes home. He's like, this. I said, man, I heard everything about you, man. He was like, yeah. I said, man, you was putting in that work legendary. He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, man, my sister had just passed him. Sorry, Lisa.

He used to write me, this, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, love, me. Where in my pocket, I pulled out like 20, 30,000. And so, yo, here you go. Oh, what? I could never hang out with you in my life. Wow.

That was incredible. Paid him to stay away from you. It's the first motherfucker that understood. As dumb as we can say, he's probably his. He's the first motherfucker that took the 30 grand and said, I understand, Joe. you change your life. I'll stay out the way. That's cool.

He went and got shot the fuck up about a week later. Like, this guy. And you lost a 30-K. This guy was a magnet. No, I don't give a fuck. I'm just like, the guy was really my friend. Oh, word.

And he honored. Yeah, yeah. I was hard to tell. Yo, he honored the Declaration of Independence. He was in jail. They was coming back like, yo, this guy is putting in work. Wow.

For y'all guys in jail. say something about bad Joe, it's over in there. So when he comes home, I'm like, yo, I can't hang out with you. No, you can't. You can't bring that in your life. You're going to kill the old Madison Square Garden. I can't hang out with you.

We got a local motive. We waiting for one to come home soon. A friend of mine, Ben and Joe, what, 30 what? 37 years. I almost got locked up with it, but we're waiting for a local motive to come. He's also getting the cash treatment. We cannot. But that was a long time ago.

Now it can't be 30K. It's got to be more. It might be like 50,000. We send them money every fucking week for 37 years. But what I'm saying to you is I cannot be with this guy. No, you can't. They know it. Yeah, oh, good, good, good.

There's a guy. No. No, you can't see what guy. They all know. I said, there's a guy he's going to come in here. Talk to you like he runs this shit. He probably might take any outfit he wants in the store. He'd do whatever the fuck he wants.

Don't argue with the guy. just call me up, I'm coming. And I'm going to come severance package. Beep, beep, beat. Your parachute. Guess what my brother, I love you.

I can not hang out with you. No, you can't. This got beat up so much. He got metal plates in his chest from the cops. You know, I had a friend like that when I was growing up. He used to do tapes of Kung Fu movies and sell him in Times Square.

And he had this cat living with him. And the cat, took his, he was a drug addict and he took his, um, his video recording machine that he copied the Kung Fu tapes on and sold it on the street for crack. And my friend, I'm not going to say his name,

hit the dude with a lead pipe and murdered him. He had to go to jail. And then he used to write me all the time and wanted to meet up after he came out like years and years later. I was like, you know he's a murder. Yeah, I'm like, we can't, dude.

I mean, we just can't hang. I'm in a different. and lifestyle. I'm a different person. My whole life is going to a path of cleanliness, goodness. You know, that's not the path that I want to be a part of. And, you know, he turned Christian. He's a born-again Christian.

Good for him. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's good for him. Yeah, it's like, and I don't mean to disparage him at all. No. I'm just saying, you know, you come to... Yeah, I don't want to bring that into my life. No, no, the problem is, right, is that all of us came from somewhere

And it was so hard to get to where we got and be legit. You don't want to make those kind of mistakes. To have somebody crazy to be hanged out with you. To put you in a position where you throw everything away from your family. You know that's trying to keep it real. I'm done with keeping it on that level. Absolutely. That's a smart move.

It's a smart move. Right and wrong, A.B. I got an uncle. I'll tell this last story and then we're going to cut. Okay? These motherfuckers, you're you're fucking up. My vibe. Let me tell you something.

This is a classic. This is a fucking classic We're number one for a reason I know when we got one Okay My uncle was in jail Since I was three years old Another guy

Legend legend legend legend He was stabbing motherfuckers in jail Up to the war Like the killers I know We're scared of him He's one of the founding members Of a crew called the Rat Hunters Wow, never heard of them

Whatever you never heard of them What arrow is that? The whole fucking New York State jail is the rat hunters. What are you at? Was it 80s or 70s? 70s. 70s. 70s.

So they got pictures of him all over my house and they're like, yo, that's Uncle Jaboo. This, you know, I know him well. And the guys who I respect are coming home from jail. They're like, yo, met your uncle there. Yo, that dude. He helped me down. I was under his umbrella.

And these are dangerous guys. He's one of them guys. When you go up there to speak, he was one of them guys. the dumb guys look at it and be like, Jesus Christ. Like, that's your nephew? Like, right? So he comes home from jail.

My whole family called me. They say, y'all, Jack Boo got home from jail. He wants to see you. I knew this day was coming. Just like we got locomotive coming down soon, too. So I go in the car. I pick him up in the job. I'm fat Joe the rapper.

I already shot the movie with John Leggonsama. I get in the car with him. He says, I know everything about you. Joey Crack. Forge, Parch, this, this, that. You did good, nephew. Everybody, he talked good about you and there. This, this, that.

You put in work, this, and that. You see, I need you to take me to Newark, New Jersey. They got this and this and that for me, waiting, I said. You ever seen the car like when somebody dies in the car, then it just crashes into shit. It goes to the side, yeah. It goes to the side. I never forget.

I was on East Street on. That gas station on East Street on by the car watch. That fucking car went like this. I said I'm in my pocket I pulled out like $20,000 I said uncle I can't hang out with you

I'm so sorry He said If you understand I understand He takes the money He gets out the car He eventually became Kinkin

He died But he became king He came home After 20 some years I started seeing him in the clubs Popping bottles Benz his beamers outside Big ass

He's the Ryan Hunter He's not telling They give him anything in the street. You understand what I'm saying? But that digger boy, that shit took two minutes. That's it.

Here's how this is going to work. But you carry a lot of cash in your pockets, bro. That shit makes me feel vulnerable. $30,000 at a time? I got cash my whole life. It's fucked up because now they look at you like you're an alien if you pull out cash in the store. Nobody uses cash, bro.

They don't even want cash. I'm in a gas station. I go get a sugar. free Red Bull, they're like, no cash. No cash. No cash. I'm like, what the fuck? They want a credit card. This ain't that? That ain't this.

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