Joe and Jada - John Wall on NBA Slam Dunk GOATs, Wizards & Kentucky, Allen Iverson & Lil Wayne

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by former Washington Wizards star John Wall. Joe and Jada ask the former No. 1 NBA Draft pick about his legendary University of Kentucky team, being mentored by Gilbert Arenas on the Wizards, DeMarcus Cousins' viral incident in the Puerto Rican basketball league, growing up idolizing Philadelphia 76ers superstar Allen Iverson, listening to Lil Wayne's 'Tha Carter III' before games, playing Chicago Bulls star Derrick Rose as a rookie, and joining Amazon's NBA coverage this season alongside Dwyane Wade, Steve Nash, and Dirk Nowitzki. Wall talks about his NBA Slam Dunk Contest performance, why the biggest stars like LeBron James don't enter the contest, and where Vince Carter ranks in his all-time dunkers list. Joe and Jada share stories about witnessing Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant hooping at the iconic Rucker Park, Weezy demolishing Joe on DJ Khaled's "We Takin' Over," and watching Wall light up Madison Square Garden on Christmas. 3:00 - Joining Amazon's new NBA coverage 7:45 - His all-time great Kentucky team 12:00 - His legendary high school mixtape 22:30 - John Calipari's best advice 34:45 - Getting drafted #1 overall by the Wizards 40:30 - Playing MVP Rose as a rookie 42:00 - What's wrong with the Knicks? 49:00 - Why Nikola Jokic is so special 52:00 - Kobe & KD at the Rucker 59:00 - Top 5 PGs of his era 1:02:00 - Jada coaching Wall 1:06:30 - NBA Slam Dunk Contest 1:14:30 - Reparations for Allen Iverson 1:17:00 - Crazy Joe takes the wheel 1:30:00 - Joe isn't into the Dougie 1:34:00 - Lil Wayne COOKED Joe on "We Takin' Over" 1:38:00 - Michael Jordan as a commentator 1:42:00 - SGA best-dressed NBA player ever? 1:44:00 - Bol Bol & why fit matters [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by hardrock.bet Unforgettable stays in Miami Beach start at Fontainebleau, where elegant guest rooms and suites offer refined comfort, breathtaking views, and world-class service. BOOK NOW: https://www.fontainebleau.com/miamibeach/special-offers/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Make some noise for John Wall. The ball weight. Now, before we even get into life and basketball and things of that nature, you got a new venture. You're in the broadcasting work. Make some noise for that. Nice bag. How is it?

What can we expect? Is it still? I see you got your feelings. What this past year, I've seen you all over the two. What can we expect this year, prime? What you're going to be doing? It's fine. I'm going to do studio analysts for Amazon Prime.

Everybody know they took over the NBA world. They're taking over. I can't get ready to work, though. You're going to be in L.A. in Studio City and Culver City. I get to work with D.Way, Steve Nage, Adonis, Adams, Kenneth Parker, Dirton, Nuisie, Blake, Griff, Rudy Gay. So just being in a space where I get to talk basketball. You know, like, we love basketball.

We get to see a series. and talk basketball. But it's a little more professional than you is talking to your homeboys. But I get to be on the TV spring and basically it's my next career. So you know, I retired early this year. Not too long ago,

something I didn't want to do, but it was a permanent time had the next chapter coming, and I'm taking the full head of steam. That's a beautiful thing because a lot of athletes when that retirement bell hits, you know, life starts to fuck up.

The wife want to leave. You know, my fucking start going crazy because they don't hear the roar of the crowd no more. Like, we're lucky as artists because Smokey Robinson, them dudes performing that 80. So we could always catch the roar of the crowd.

When you are athlete and you retire, that got to be. Just walking in the building, though, a lot of time. They put them on the jump off. Yeah, but you know, they're used to this, shaking bait. So what is it like? Would you scared? And I think it's great that you got this new career.

I know you want to stay around the game as long as you could. Yeah, for sure. I know you love Ball, so I know you wasn't trying to push back that. It wasn't an easy decision. It was bitter sweet. I mean, it was bitter sweet.

I ain't happy at the same time because I'm like, the last two years I've been trying to get back in. I mean, you can't really control what God throwed at you or what light throw at you. So I was sitting back and joining time of being around my kids, but I'm like, I got to figure out what's next.

And I had an opportunity to go do broadcasting for the G-Leat Showcase, which I never even thought about doing it. For me, they ain't in my next field. So the NBA TV call, like, we want you to do some games. I'm like, okay, cool. Then I started getting a little bit of buzz with. I'm like, okay, this can be my next chapter.

I get to be around the game. I love, still travel, go to arenas, being in studio and talk basketball. And then I get a call for Amazon Prime. Like, they want to sign me. Great call. So I'm like, all right, forget basketball. And they're like, I can still be around the game, but I just want to be on the court no more. And I'm going to my way.

I want to leave on my terms. You know what I mean? It's not leaving on my terms on the court, but leaving on my terms of what's the next. chapter for me. That's right. And Amazon Prime Game, and I'll be tuning

to take that next step. That's a beautiful thing, man. You know, that's how me and Kiss feel. We feel like, this shit is like

the T&T of hip-hop. Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neill. Like, we played the game and we know every aspect of the game. We don't have the bone-on-bone injuries.

We don't have the torn ankles. Yo, the Euro step, the automatic. sell. Who's your stepping? We're going to get, he got the

hero, he got the leg. The leg, let me show him the hero. I got to get him. I'm going to get you. No. He got a profession. If he,

look, he got the leg. You know how the hero is. Then you go back. He got the leg for the first part. The last step in here. I got the first step. Yeah, but if he could perfect do the first leg,

then lay it. He can kill him somewhere in it. Celebrity. You just go out to go same foot, same hand, though. See what I'm saying. If you go like this, you just got to go like this. Ain't no going back over here. You got to stay.

Well, you just got to go a good inside. Growing up in North Carolina. The Hoot State. The Hoot State? Who you was rooting for when you was growing up? Was you rooting for Duke or North Carolina? See the crazy part I'm going to break it down to you. My mom grew up in NC State fan with Sydney Low and all of them back in the day.

But me, I grew up a Carolina fan. I love Carolina. My mom's just going with Coach Valvano. Yeah, she was going with them, Sydney, low, and all of them. So it's funny because he recruited me when I was in high school. Wow. And during that time, my mom had aneurysm, my senior, so I'm like, I'm staying close to home. You know what I mean?

Then she got the surgery, got past there, and she was like, don't pick the school for me to do as best for you. And I was glad that happened because I knew where I really wanted to be. But my mom is my best friend, so I was going to be home. But Carolina is my school, though. Like, I love watching Carolina. You landed in Kentucky with August. one of the best teams ever to play college basketball

the way that your whole team was crazy what was that like? What was that? I know y'all had y'all was like royalty on that kid. When you went in, say the first, when you went in, did you know that your team was like that?

Did you know. Hell yeah. You knew who everybody was on the team and you was like, oh, this is about to be crazy. Just, I'm going to break it down. Just me and DeMarcus Cudlin, we already knew what it was going to be. Then we bring it back.

Patrick Patterson, you know? So, like, he's being so special before that when he had Billy Lespe as his coach. I mean,

I took a visit there when I was in ninth grade. So I knew how good he was. I'm like, okay. Then I started watching Eric Bless on and I asked him. And I had the markets

because they played each other in Hotsk because they both from Alabama. Like, all right, I knew how good John Hood was. He was from Kentucky. And then after that, we just got on campus

and we just clicked though. But Cal made us feel like a brother like a family because we always had dinner at his house. We always had dinner at his house. We always hung together. Like,

We really was, me, bugging, he black cars had three amicos. We were together everywhere. You couldn't separate us for nothing. And we really played pickup for, like, hours. Like, we're doing class at one. We playing from three to seven. So, like, we really was hooping, hooping.

And coach would be up there in the office and, you know, somebody might get into it. I'm closing the blind. Y'all figured out. And that's how I went. So it was fun, though. It was exciting. We knew we knew we could be good,

but we didn't really know how great we was going to do. At this time, people forget, it was a lot of juniors and seniors, still left in college basketball at that time. My year was the last year, real two juniors and seniors. After that, it was like a lot of freshmen, a lot of sophomores after that. So, it was exciting, though. We was

like rock stories, though. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, fucking the biggest shit on the planet. It was crazy, because, like, I tell a lot people, like, college basketball didn't have that much excitement until we came. Like, it was a drive at that time. Like, you had a team that was winning a championship team that was good. We brought that excitement back, like, every Saturday

that you wanted to see us on CBS. That's a fact. That's hot. You know, The Marcus Cousins are one of the saddest stories about basketball to me because of injury because man this guy was

this none he can't do man for sure I really love the Marcus Cousins like I really used to watch him He was like I felt like he was a street dude that made it

and then he had every move and he was tough and then because of injury you know he went to Puerto Rico gave the dude the joint ski what would he did he grabbed this

shit made him sniff that y'all they hit yeah he went he gave it and hit it yeah your kids that's going on i would never want to be the guy that guy whoever he did that too that's forever that's forever i know Puerto rican that's like it's a lifetime as every christmas some drunk cousin is gonna be like yo he threw the shit in your face this now they can violate in that guy forever Puerto Rico. He'll never outlived the DeMarcus cousins Boogie Cousins. Who else was a trip that you played

with throughout your career that was like you were like, oh my God, this guy's a trip. You fast forward, are we staying in college, or are we going to the league? Stay in college. I'm just, I'm just shooting. I don't even know the questions. I'm going on to you. But I say him, like, you know, I made DeMarcus and we were 13

in Nationals. Like, we met we were 13. I had just got my first dunk. He was skinny, but he had all the skills. Then we kind of went to a camp, like, I went to LeBron camp. I don't know nobody. This is when I become number one in the country. So I walk in late. My plane getting in late, we late.

And I'm like, all, you know, you get in lay, everybody on. Like, he thinks he this shit. Yeah. Like, I'm like, bro, I don't know. Nobody. I'm looking around like, damn. Boy, like, what up? What up?

I'm like, I'm going to chill with boo. So from that day four, we're like, we're going to go to college together. Wow, that was fine. So I told him, but I was planning to, like, he wasn't going to lie. He wanted me go to UAB. I said, listen to a book. I ain't going to Alabama for no school. So then we started talking.

He was going to Memphis. I was like, all right, man, I called him like, yo, I ain't going about to go to Duke. And I hung up on him. He called me like seven times. Like, bro, you better answer this damn phone. I was joking with him, though. I knew I was going to Kentucky, but he didn't know that. But we always wanted to go to school together.

So that was easy for us to get the opportunity to do it. Man, that's a beautiful thing, man. You was one of them. you knew from high school. Like, well, I heard about you all way up in YO and Westchester. So what is it like? Is it a lot of pressure? Because they, you already knew you was going.

All you got to do is pray. Don't get hurt. And stay away from traffic. You was going to be in the league. Is it a lot of pressure? Is it, how is it to deal with that? It's crazy because I, I'm a skinny kid from Hawaii, North Carolina, So I wasn't even on the spot until my junior year.

So now I'm like, you know, usually you go to a prep school, like, oh, kill, one of those schools. And I'm like, why would I leave? I'm the man at home. I want my family to be able to come to every game. So the most important thing for me, you know, like when you're around your neighborhood, they're going to make sure you're the guy to stay out of trouble. It's just up to me now.

Don't do nothing stupid. But it was a lot of pressure, but it wasn't no camera. It was no social media back then. So I didn't have to worry about nothing. Like, you had to come see me to see what was really going on. You know what I mean? Then I go playing this one tournament at the Bob Gibbons. and a guy named Webb-Werman shined to him.

He's the reason why my mixtape was lit. He's a student at NC State and snuck into the Bob Gibbons is still a media pass. So he's filming the games and he comes out with the mixtape and my age, you coach, like, yo, you're going with us everywhere.

We go from their own. So that's how you get to see the John Wall mix tape to be so late. But it was pressure, though, but for me, I'm like, I didn't care about the pressure because nobody, you had to come play me. Like, it was no, oh, I can go like this every day

and see everything I was doing. I wasn't under a microscope. It wasn't okay. cameras every day. You know, Steph Marbury, like a brother, he told me when he was a kid, like a kid, 10 years old, shit like that, white guys would come to the park and just sit in the stand and watch them. Like, is it really like that? Like, when they know that you're a trial prodigy and you most likely going to the league, at what age did you notice, like, strangers was watching you, like, watching your game differently? And that was basically my old life since

I was 11, I was averaging 40. My God. But see, but see. But the crazy part, I was always small, though. I didn't grow to 6-1 until, like, my junior year. Did you always have them bunnies? No, I just had speed and handles. Like, A-I was my favorite player.

So me going back and watching the commercial with y'all was lit to me. Oh, you know what I mean? So I'm like, I got to be like, hey, I got to get the task. I got to add the braids. But I just grew. So when I grew and I kept everything I had, it's like, okay, now instead of laughs, I'm dunking on your center. But see, you from New York, see, y'all got that park and go to, we didn't have that in North Carolina.

We go to gyms and play. We didn't get to go to parks. And I wish we had, like, a ruck of park and all that. You go outside of your neighborhood and play and everybody outside. But, like, it took me to my junior year when my mom got mad because agents was coming to games. And I was, like, I already told my mom and dad, like, before my dad passed when I was nine, even if I didn't make the league, whatever I was going to go to college. So she was like, you got to stop fucking coming to the games.

Like, he's going to college. He told me, did Steph told me, did you? 10 years old, like, white guys just sitting outside of Coney Island watching them play in the plot, like, they already knew, like, they know. But see, yeah, y'all, like, seeing New York, y'all got so much, y'all can play anywhere anytime, like, they're seeing it, you know what I mean, like, they're watching what's really coming at before. Me, you got, like, Jerry Stackhouse, Donald Williams, David West, you know what I mean,

PJ Tucker, those are the guys we've seen. You know what I mean? Y'all got more and more names of the time when we was going later. And the city is... Yeah, the city is... Yeah. See, I'll be honest, I tell you this and nobody... A lot of people know this.

I'll watch through the fire dead before every high school game. Watching some bashing tear for a tape. Now, imagine me, the shit I was doing a high school, having that type of earspin coming to my games. You're right. Because I'm watching bashy.

Like, damn. He got... Jay Z here, Mara Rashad. Everybody was doing... I'm like, this is lit. He's Stefan, Marbury. He's a big cousin. Yes.

So they all live in the building. Yeah. And he had his little brother. You go with stuff. You go to 10 different apartments in the project building. It's his whole family on every floor. And Sebastian used to live there. We used to take him to eat four. That's why he heard us so bad when he played for Jay-Z and the Rock.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we used to feed him four chicken wings, french fries, beefing the ghetto Chinese. You know, when you got the little cousin, you're giving them fortune. I'm like, four chicken wings, French fries, that guy broke my heart when he came out there with the rock. You know what that is? That was that's little cousin.

We used to give him Chinese food, hang out with him. That was Brooklyn, baby. Next thing you know, he came against us. We was like, oh, wow. He wasn't going against Brooklyn, baby. He wasn't going against Jay-Z, but that's his cousin. Brooklyn. Okay, he was going to get his ass whip anyway.

Who fuck with us, man. You know what you were saying? hearing about the Brucker games. You were saying the bottom down there, huh? Yeah, for sure. I played the League 24 the second year. Me and Lance Stevenson, my boy. Last, boy, last play for me when he was 14.

Yeah, he was different. Born ready, he was giving him 40 points at 14. Yeah, he was just too crazy. He felt like a grown man doing 14. Yeah, he was dead nice. He started running the stairs and everything. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm running out at the start, yeah. He remembered there too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He went to Lincoln. He went to Lincoln. Yeah, he wanted to fight every game now.

Like, now. That's something. Like, I'll be honest, like, not even try to go off the top of we still and, like, go back to high school. No, but we're talking. We go to city of, what we are, city of Palm. We take a photo shoot, slam my line. You see it. I mean, my high school jersey is purple.

He got his Lincoln jersey on. We don't say a word to each other. Because, like, you know, he was number one at the time I come up. I'd be number one. We're not even cool. Like, he's not saying the word. We sold it back to back just looking at the camera. I'm like, get this shit over with.

Then we go to Steve Nashcampers in Jersey. He's not a point guard. He's a two guard. He posed to me at Kobe camp. He comes just to play against me. So he's bullying everybody. I'm like, you ain't going to bully me. Like, we're going to have to get into it.

Now we're like, we close his hair. Like, he can't separate it. But he respected me from not backing down from a lot of people in our class was terrified and he was born ready. And I was like, I don't give a damn. That's what makes you a legend, brother. You know what I'm saying? That's how we're cool his hair.

His birthday a day before mine. his birthday was a fifth. Yeah, Lance, we just celebrated. But you wasn't with me in the killer, in the killer party. He said, what the fuck you're doing in the killer party? It was Spassu's birthday, man.

Oh, uh, it wasn't doing that new audition shit in there. They was. It was. You know, you had Homeboy Tut was in there. Prince from the Supreme, all the legendary

gangsters in New York was up in the party. It was Lance Burke. You, last, man, he walk a fine line. He, he, he out, he in the streets, and he ball. Like, he's, he's always been like that. Baby, Connie Allen, baby. Yeah, he's always been like that, you know, born ready. Skinneton, uh, your major accomplishments at Kentucky.

National player of the year, got the rub trophy. National freshman in the year, USBWA. Consensus first team, All-American. SEC player of the year Associated Press and Coaches SEC tournament MVP SEC freshman of the year

You fucking tore the SEC You knocked their head off Boy Did you ever have to go to class? Yeah, yeah I definitely had to go to class For sure, kids They definitely was taking your time

No, I'm telling you, no No, no If you're a minchin, I didn't say that No, I can say that, I'm going to be honest with you No, let me tell you some Different conferences is different You feel me? They can run their conference

every they want We had a person Come to our class Literally Let's say class is the hour If I leave with 59 With one minute left In the class

And I'm not Danny Wobah Oh yeah We got 20 suicides And 20 minutes That's the suicide That's not punish me At practice But I don't got to run

I got to sit at half court With my team run Because I fucked up So we had to go to class I had that military shit Going on We had to Same in private right

Put in that work Yeah I had a 3.5. I ain't fucking around. I'm going back to get my business management degree. Talk slow to them. Talk slow to them. I ain't messing around.

You know what I mean? Doing shit. Now, he liked to do it, though. You know what I'm saying? He's doing shit. I know they came to me when I was starting all this trouble with my school. I ain't have a football team. They was like, yo, come down out of school, play football.

We give you four lunches. They try to convince me with the lunches. Boy, they only got three lunches. When you get four? Four lunches. They was like, yo, bro. We know what you're like trouble? I just, are they, come on.

They gave you four months. You know what I robbed, the whole gym in that era? I heard this story. I don't know if it's true. I heard this story. Give me some more flat. I heard me the American flag. You got to give me the truth for that story.

What? That era, that's the truth of the story. But what, hold on, they're going to go into the robbery. I went there about four. What do you mean they all? So I was causing so much trouble in the school. Morris High Street. Morris High School, four trades.

Morris High School had no football. Other schools was here and I was bullying the school so much and getting in trouble. Coaches was coming to have football teams. Like, yo, you're a big boy. You could take your anger out on football. The only thing you could bribe with at that age

is free lunch. They're like, yo, we give you four lunches, whatever you want. You can eat whatever you want. This is that. Just come play football. I'm like, fuck then. I ain't going to play no football.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all can take your flags back. You might have been a punter. I'm telling you. You would have been a nose guard. With the leg. Eh. James getting in.

Yes, James. Let me say, starting to you. He's just Lord London legs, man. These guys, Lloyd's in London. These guys can't fuck with me, man. You know what I'm saying? I did rob the whole gym guy. I'm telling you shit.

Y'all don't like it. It is what it is. Now. Everybody, give me your shit. How? And Cal tell you to leave? I was already going. He was out.

Before I got there, listen, the funny story is, Kyle's like, don't leave by yourself. Like, what the hell you mean? Like, take some guys who are you? I'm like, how? Like, how? Like, I all knew I was good, but I didn't know, like, know what I was going to do on the college level.

A lot of people back home was like, he's going to do three, four years in school. Like, he ain't going to be one and done. I'm like, all right, we'll see. But shit. What's that game against Carolina? SEC and all that shit. I can tell you two games where I knew

like it was over with. When I played Carolina, I couldn't wait to play them. You know, I mean, they had got Dexter strictly. You know, you're from Jersey when the same pass. They had Larry Drew. And I was like, man, damn, they took these two guards. These are like the school I wanted to go to. I was like, I got to kill them. Like, we back home. I'm back home playing.

I got to kill them. So we beat them. Then I go to the guard and we play Kimber in them, Yukon. Draw them dice, and I had like 14 of our last 15 points. Now, every gym, every scouts at the game, I was like, yeah, I'm cool. I'm going. And Kyle was like, take some people with you.

So I was like, all right, let's see. What did you mean? Yeah, I wanted. I took four other guys with him. I'm the first. No, no, you took the tests. No. Went to the classes for the test.

What you mean? But you cheated some niggas on with you. Well, you must do. No, what happened was? You got in my spot, huh? No, what happened was? I was like, what's my man? What's my man?

The Kimbo? The Kimbo, the guy, the guy, the fucking Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Johnis. He got his brother on the team. What did he call him? His brother ain't scored one time. He made matumbo or what's up?

No. Rest of peace, de Kimbo, Yonis. The best of his name. What's his last name? Got his aunt de Kumpo. He got his brother on there for free. Cool. That's something we can't control.

But listen, in college, you can't do that. You got to produce a little bit to get to the league. So what he was telling you to do? Take some guys with me. What? So let me tell you. We're confused. Are you going to let him say.

You got the market. cousin, he thought he was going to do three years in school. He averaging the double, double. Okay, he goes top five. He bled, didn't ever think about going to the NBA. He comes in. He's averaging 13 and 7, 13 and 5. He goes to the league.

Patrick Patterson, he was already All-American. You know, he's going. Okay, that's four of us. The last guy was dang wrong. We didn't think we were going to come out of the draft. You feel me? But he had some personal problems that went on. He's like, he's not going back to school.

He got picked it like the second and the last pick in the first round. Now, we're the first one ever gets five guys going to first round. Wow. That's what he means to take some guys with me. Well, listen. He said we had to play well to win to get guys to go. If we was asked, ain't nobody going. But why is the comeback?

Janice brother on the team. Well, you're the franchise. God believe you got power. So you can bring your brother on the team, right? You know, I think he took a couple, take a little bit of ends off. Give that to him, make him a con. He made him a contract. He brought your championship, one of the pieces of the league.

No, no, I like that. I like what he did. I'm all about getting somebody in your family's job. I thought that's what he met. I thought he said, like, you, SEC, you number one, you all this, take some of your boys with you. We're thinking you got him on that. You got a thing.

This is when school starts, before you even play a game, we know you want it done. We know that take some guys with you. He told you that before y'all even started? Yeah. I'm like, what the hell? Like, what you mean? Like, explain.

He was like, you good as you're supposed to be. some guys going to leave with you. I'm not expecting for guys. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. Kyle? Yeah, Cal is shit. I'm just saying, I don't expect four guys ago.

I'm going to be thinking, like, the mark is in pack. He, Bled never thought about leaving. He thought he would come back to school. You see what I'm saying? They always never thought about leaving. So those two other guys that came into the picture that we now. I thought the Marcus was like. I feel like he could have been in this.

At his prime, I thought he was fast. He was fast. What these bigs are doing now, he Ben had that. He was doing that. wasn't allowed to do it. Two, threes, dribble up the court. He didn't have that. He just wasn't allowed to do it now.

That's fast. So he was ahead of his time of where the game has involved. Yeah. Because he can pass. He can post up. He can score. He'll bully you. And he'd feel like he can bully you was over.

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Yeah, because now we just told us about that. Now we asked. You ever had that chili bowl they got? You know what? Why do we got to have food? Why don't it sound like Paul's stuff? You know what he wants? No.

The mongo sauce. Yo, yo, yo. That's just sound crazy. I'm talking about D.C. You're talking about being chili bowl. I never had the heart to get out the car and go get the chili bowl. But that shit been never forever. What?

What? You're good. I didn't need it. You good. You could go. I know, I know I could go. I just never wanted to go out there, fat Joe, go get some chili and shit. He's going to get a cheese steak.

Why, you can't get a chili bowl? I got to do it. You had the full wings with the fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying the chili bowl just sounds like you're going straight to the bathroom no matter what. It sounds like automatic explosion. You know what I'm saying? I got to stay away from shit like that.

Now when you decide, now you have a killer freshman year. You decide you out. What's the, what's the preparation for, like, after the tournament, after all of the winters. At the tournament, I was crying like a baby. The market is talking about, you ain't like a punk. Let me know you're going on the world. What did you crying for?

I came to winning a championship. I already know I'm only over eight months. I'm gone. So I stayed, finished the rest of the school year. I worked out with Rod Strictly. Shout out Rod. Shout out the Rod. O.G.

He was working, we're doing workouts and stuff. Then I prepared myself at one meeting, one age. I didn't know who the fuck to talk to what's going on. I said my manager y'all control this. Just give me my range over on campus the next day.

I just wanted a range of up at the time. God dead. I get the ride around campus and I moved to L.A. for the summer. Litting L.A. worked out repairing myself for the draft. That's how I went.

You get drafted number one. What the fuck is that like? You got to throw your phone what's going on at the... Do they tell you? I knew. Yeah, I knew.

Since I was in high school, my senior, they're like, you're going number one. But now it's up to meet for Deuce in college, you know what I mean? So, let me get shout to Evan Turner. He had a hell of a freshman. I mean, he was a junior, but he had a hell of a year in college too,

you know what I mean? So now it's like, all right, you got to watch the lottery. Like, who gets the pick? Really, I'm thinking I'm about to go to Jersey. And Jersey is the worst team in the league at a time. They pulled into one pick.

They fall to three, and there's like Philly or D.C. Ooh, I go to Philly, cool. that's my favorite player of all the time played. They get two, I'm like, perfect. D.C. is cool as four hours from home, North Carolina, and my dad from there.

I'm like, all right, they got to come work out. Work out like 30 minutes. My back hurt. I really was just tired of his head. My back was her. But I drafted there, and it was raised. Let me ask you a question. So you in D.C., you get drafted with all that club love

and H-2O and all that shit. D.C. was a special place at that time. Brooklyn City for real. Like, what was it like being focused and all this shit? This was like, yo, D.C. was really the most popping place at that time. If you talk about nightlife or club, that shit was out of control. My first two, three years, I ain't going nowhere. You just catch me a hooters right there in Chinatown.

That's where I go out to practice. That's where I was watching all the game. I really didn't go outside like that. It took me like my end of my third year. and all my homeboy's graduated college came from college and came up there and I'm like, I'm young single, I'm adapted to the city now

I'm getting my motion to lead where I want to be in let's go have some fun. Whose rook was you? Give it Arenas, Javel McGee, Andre Blatch, Nick Young. What kind of shit do you got to do?

What did they make you? Carry bags, you got to have a snack bag. Somebody might call you it, like I had to have donuts in there in the morning before everybody get there in newspapers. sometimes you might sometimes it might be three in the morning

and you got to bust at eight you gotta keep your phone on ring hey yo boy who's store I need something what you're gonna say you say no you might get tired that thrown into a cold tub that was part of the rules

huh? Yeah, all it was all it was like as long as you can respect me as a man don't have me doing nothing crazy I do all the rookie duties no walking in Brooklyn for cheese cake shit you might have to

that's your rookie duty But you never know, like KG said it one time because Amy Bradley came here, you know, I mean, he was like, he did so much for KJ and then he ended up having $120,000 extra. But they'll give you like, you might be like, you know, like, yo, 3 o'clock morning, go give me some donuts. Here you go $5,000 when I come back.

You just never know what I mean? But when you be one of the hard-haired rookies, ties flat, popcorn in your car. What's the light skin do when he played for the fucking Knicks? Manjee-field? Nah, nice guy. Around that time, not Landry-Fills. But the other

He went to Was he Jeffries or something? Jared Jeffries He told me a story I never forget I had dinner with him He said yo He cast his first check

And made it all cash And put it in the bathtub It was like Laying on the shit When he first got his big check In the NBA Yeah he told me He took the money out the bank

And put it in the tub Put it in the tub And slept in the tub In the fucking In a million dollars to me He was like yo Joe I slept in that shit with all the money, I'd say,

yo, this guy's fucking crazy. There's some guys that to do that. You got some guys don't even want a bank account. They just want their cash. I'm like, y'all crazy. Chuck used to have mad cash like that. Yeah. A.I.

Oh, yeah, AI. He used to stopping their way. He wouldn't go, hey, y'all is different. What's the, like, all right, so let's say you said AI was your idol, right? What was it like getting on the court that first time? Prime time, the crowd's going crazy. and you look across the court

and it's Alan Arison, Bubba Chuck, and you got to play against him. What was that feeling like? You get the chills. Once the first play go by, you're like, fuck, it is what it is. Basketball now. But the first time, you're like, oh, shit, it's real.

Like, my first time playing Kobe, I was like, oh, shit. Kobe posts up, I block it shot. I run and go get out the ball. Come out and get the ball, scorer, like, the play goes on, y'allel. I'm like, fuck, Coke.

But, like, you know what I mean? Like, this isn't me. I'm like, I'm living out my dream. I mean, but as long as I, after like the first play go by, I hold my own against them, I was straight. And once you earn their respect, you're like, okay, I belong. That's all it takes. Yeah, it was the guy, what was the little light-skinned guy?

I think he played for Indiana, point guard. He was just super fast, super nice. I forget. Recently. Man, back in the day, around your time when you was playing. Nah. Little Likie. Monta Ellis?

Monta Ellis. Yeah, yeah. He used to be a Golden State. Monta Ellis. Now, he was cold. Man. It was cold. Yo, listen to me, Kiss.

The son is nice. You remember when the guy, I remember when the karate guy kept trying to kick me in the face and I was going like this, and I catch a boom. And he kicked again and I go, it's like a split second of that.

That guy, I would go see him play in the NBA, and he was just so much faster than everybody. Before I knew, somebody checking him and he's just floating to the basket. It's a different kind of speed. That guy had one of... Am I correct?

His speed is on another... He was fast. He was cold. No, no. He was fast. It was different. Shit. U.M. Westbrook.

He rose. DeRose. Beer and Fox. Fox. Fly it. He rose. You're going up against that. No, I can't promise.

My rookie year is his MVP year. Hmm. Wow. Wow. It's a bullshit. So that's where he was going crazy. What? That's where he was going crazy.

Yes. I remember we played him in preseason, you know. It was cool because Coach Cowell came. I got a picture of the house. I'm like, yeah. It's going to be a lot of battles. I'm playing four times. So when you saw him, you was like, okay.

That's the first time I said somebody was quicker than me. Because I've always been like faster, you know, but he's quicker. I'm like, this is the first time somebody like, yeah, I got to. You could see it. Shit. You can got his here. Like, I scored by the time I turn around and play divas, he's, yeah, I'm right back. Let's go.

Let's get to it. And he got a thing back then with Tibbs' teams, and you've seen it, this year with Brunship. They build their team around and they have a great defensive guy that's great role players. And they point guard as they start. You know what I mean? On Tim's team, they point guard as they start. So, you got a long night. He's a profession.

I've been watching all these teams. I can never, I'm looking at that, and I couldn't assess that. I got work to do. But we ain't got tips no more. No, just how he was able to say all his team. What do you think about that, that, that, that, getting rid of Timbs after going to the playoffs deep and then bringing in Mike Brown, what do you think about that move right there? I don't really understand a lot of times while coaches get fired when they go places

they haven't been in a long time. But you got to look deeper inside. It's probably some of the players wanted or something. front office one. That's what it kind of bored down to. And a lot of times people just sit back and don't say it and they stay behind the radar. You know what I mean? So like some, it could have been something in Turner

from the players or front office that they're not going to stand to the camera. So they let the I'm in the streets. They let the GM do it. So if I'm in a barbershop or I'm around the streets, I don't care if it's a white lady. It's in the hood. Whatever they all don't understand that. They just, no one

says, yes, we got Mike Brown. Tim's his out. Like, nobody. Like if I say, how we look at this year? Great, yo, but I don't know about what we did there. Look, though. Taylor Brunson, last two years been amazing, right? But it goes back to what I was saying with D. Rose. He's a point

guard. That's Tim's show. Yeah, it's like, Brian new coaches. He's going to lay and play the same way. Is he going to tame the offense up? You know what I mean? So, like, is he going to try to get everybody else more involved? You got to get everybody else more involved. In order to win, in order to go to win a shift, you got to get everybody else. Yeah, but at the same

time is Jaylen Russ is going to be okay with that. That's a fact. I mean, hasn't that haven't that,

hasn't that been like the problem with most super duper duper stars is like, you know, you're giving up the rock or like the biggest thing

and shout out Mello you just came back from the Hall of Fame with Mellow. Melo Man, man, salute. My man,

Mello Man, such a beautiful career. But the argument they kept Like as he was getting older, everybody was like, could he come off the bench? When he come on? Like, that was the whole, that was the thing. But to break it down, I don't think he should have came on the bench.

You just give him a different role. You know what I'm saying? He still could be a four-minute, like he could be like a Kevin Durant and just, when they get closed, give me the ball to mid-post. You need a one-on-one buck, I'll get you that. You need to be a spider three-point shooter, I can do that. But you don't take a guy out of there and be like, come on the bench. Hell no.

You might change his role and make him adjust a little bit, like, all right, you might not be. I never want an option. Couple less shots. Yeah, but it's cool. You know what I mean? But like... Because you're just saying right now the future of our franchise

depends on whether if or not if he switched... I'm going to do right now. Brown come in and switch the whole franchise guy. The whole New York love Jaylen Browns.

He's been the guy for y'all. And then I love him even more if he finds a way to win the chip. In my point, though. Now it's okay that, but like if I'm used to getting 25 shots a game, now you want to cut my shots

to 12 to 15. I got to be even more efficient because I'm like this I get in the news I'm in the pool and like yo we got Jordan Clarkson oh

I'm like churping up and down my nephews are looking at me like oh you know they ain't gonna get that boy the ball I'm like yo he's coming off the bench though

he's gonna do this guy to him and deuce me bride to like run the shoes no no no nobody who's gonna do who's ain't gonna do what Cox is gonna do listen let me say that

right you said on the second You have to get Clarks in the ball. Oh, no, let me explain something to you now. Listen to that. Now, Kat, right? When Jaylon Bruns were to the bench, what cat do? It's Indiana game 4 or 5 at like 20 to 4th and won the game.

So now he might be like, okay, when Jaylon Buss is out, it's my show. So when the Jordan Clarkson, we're going to get the time to be his show. This is what we're saying. I'm agreeing with you. No, no, I'm agreeing with you. What they're going to have to do? We got a guy. You just got a way to win.

You got no old person. You got to say, Mike Brown. We just got no firepower. Now we got somebody who's firepower and the streets are saying, yo, Joe, he might not get the touches. It all the print's up. Like, in the day, we don't know

what Simpson Mike Brown going to run. You know why you got to listen to him? Until you see that, we can't see. You know what you got to listen. So like this is what I'd be saying to a lot of people that watch basketball, right? You might understand, like, he took 12 threes, right? Can he tell him the reason why?

You're a fan just watching, right? And I hear on TV and be like, he shot 12 threes. Like, give me the reason why. a lot of people can't explain the reason why that's all he want to do is shoot threes if I take 16 shots 12 my shots is shoot threes that's a whole new NBA

and a lot of guys want to add what we're talking about no I'm just saying you was a fan watching right and I get on TV as an analyst and you want to know why he shot 12th 3s but I can't explain it until you can't explain it until you can't say 12

they just chucking them up yeah but can you explain the reason why I think the reason why is they trying to run it up an extra point and now that's just become normal I mean, this shit, this shit trash. You talk to the wrong guy. I'm going to,

I coach six championships. That's cool. I'm boogey cousins in the fucking paint. That's cool. I don't get down. Let's body to body, nigga. No, I'm telling you what I'm doing. This shit now, they got a three-on-one

on fast break and the nigger step back and go. That's not trash. Why? I can't tell you why that's the game. No, it's not a game. Listen. Listen. Listen.

The fans won more points. The fans want more points. The fans don't want no defense, and they want to see it. Turn into a sight, man. Turned into it. I'm going to break it out of time. That's my last time.

I'm going to win. I mean to win. Y'all be Boston, right? Game one, right? I mean, three, they shoot that game. 10,000. That's the most threes ever shot in. They were shot 70.

That's the most threes in one in-bed game history. They missed 40. That's two records broken, right? They can go get layups in mid-ranges. They had wide-up. They soon step back and take three. I'm like, bro. Yeah.

But this is what the league wants. Coach and getting mad at you, you don't take it. I want the down. If you shoot the mid-range on certain teams? Come on, say, what I'm saying. You want to bench.

It's threes or lay up. That's what the league is involved in to now. Oh. But you see, look at the team that won championships the last couple years. What did they shoot? Three.

Outside of Boston. Go's a mid-ray. No, you got, you got, okay, see with it. What they're doing? Mid-Range. What are you got, Jamar and Yokin.

Where they're going? two-point. They're not shooting too many threes. Listen. All that one was itself for that one year when they were shooting like, no, but you got to get...

That's how you win the chip. No, no, for sure. You do not win the chip. Three-on-one break, go back and shoot a three. Unless you carry a guarantee. You're not supposed to... You're not going to win like that.

I take the secure two-point, get back. Two-point, get back. Now, if I'm open for a three, shoot a three. Let's shoot more threes. You make more threes. I've been in the coach's meat.

Is you ever think of that? You shoot more, you make more. That's how they look at that. You just got to get to the point. If you off, like, okay, make an adjustment. Get to the rim. You have to get to the adjustment. And the thing I have with coaching guys,

and they wasn't NBA, but they could jump out the roof. A lot of these guys are just dumb. Just athletic and dumb. They're dumb athletic, but they will not fucking listen. Dumb athletic. Like, I used to run after the seventh time

I'm telling them the same play. I would call a timeout and stand. I would stand there and be like, right here. He's coming here, shooting there. Can you stand here? And as soon as in front of the whole park, embarrass him, as soon as good old Dumbo go and stand there, we start blowing him out.

A guy running the same place, seven times. How do you let a guy do the same shit to you? Seven times in a row. Like when you see the hotline. IQ. Yeah. So I'm trying to tell you. No, I'm agreeing with you.

Like you just say, there's a lot of people that play basketball, but don't have no IQ. Smart guys win championships. Can't be a dummy. Listen to this one. Got 11 NBA scenes. Right, look at Yoker.

The Joker wins because you and DeMarcus and all your guys went to the same school. And y'all went to the same trainer. The Mark, the Joker. We didn't go a damn same trainer. And listen to what I'm saying to you. They teach you the dudes. Listen, they teach you the do's and they teach you the don'ts.

And so you learn the game, some of y'all better than the other, but you learn the same ideology. The Joker comes some fucking Serbia, Montenegro or something. He's throwing passes across the course. Then no one validated that. And you're looking like, like what? He did that? And they score.

He does everything. than you're not supposed to do. He's basically, he's saying they're doing different. Yeah, I'm just saying he's going against. But here, if the planet is going like this, he's going that way. In America, America couldn't pass. Matthew Johnson had been doing the passes. A bonus.

Okay, certain guys are always a bonus. Those overseas guys are outside of the fathers. The father used to go to the father used to go to that. Who else? But you name all overseas guys that they teach them how to pass the sinners. What I'm trying to tell you, He said the way they taught us how to play basketball over here. Yeah, it's totally different to the way that guy is playing ball.

He's doing shit that's not author of any coach. Now, they're more fundamental to us. It's not author of. They're more fundamental. He's saying he's doing shit that's not authorize. Yeah, it's not author of right. No, they're just more fun of the middle of us. You're like, yo, who told him to do that?

Yeah, rest of peace, cove overseas is more fundamental. We grew up playing basketball at a park in 9-9-9-10, playing one-on-one, playing outside all the time. They learned how to play fundamental before they play five on five. I wish Kobe would have got a full game off at the Rucker. You only got to play like half of one quarter and scored maybe 14. I was there.

You was at the game? Yeah. So you've seen them. Did I? Wow. What was that like? Cob at the Ruckers and shit was in the multiple, man. No, no, you're sitting there and you said,

because everybody, everybody used to think he was clean, car, car. The walking. Now, I'm telling you. The whole park is just it's like fucking electrified. Or you saw him

grabbed the basketball. I seen him walking. I seen them lace up. They get busy. It was great. That was a ill summer though. Garnet.

I know. We was out there. We just the chip. Don't worry about that. We took the chip out there. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is Kobe lacing up at the park.

You see, a lot of guys, I brought NBA. I bought tons of players out there. Some of them wasn't built for that. And they were like champs in the league. They were all stars. They were all right.

A-I killed that. A-I was a perfect person for like that. I wouldn't even play D. But listen, Jamal Murray's nice, right? Halliburn's nice. That's not their type of game to go out there and play in Rock a Park. It's not everybody game to play a street.

That's like streetball. You got to have a street-ball. A lot of guys don't have that. They got a fundamental league game. Why people can't go out there and play? George Clark has to go out there have a field day. Who's the white boy from Seattle? Not the white boy.

You're talking about, you're talking about, Jason Wood? No, no, the light-skinned black dude that he got hurt early from Seattle. He grew up in Seattle. Oh, Brandon Roy.

And the boy, I didn't even come out there. Let's see, where the fundamental game and he's killing this. Yeah, but it ain't like the crowd ain't going to go o'clock. He's going to kill,

but they ain't going to go o'clock. He's going to go out like Jamar Carver come there. Everybody's like, San Antonio. Yeah, oh, man. You see him. You see him. I'm saying somebody can come in there and be like,

I'm a score because I'm a score, but it's not going to be an electrifying. It's going to be fundamental. Top five. Unless you do, we need it at Rock. We ain't got to go down and hit like six three. I'm not even commenting on that. I was there for that.

He don't like when I comment on that. Katie? Yes. Forget about that. Forget I don't want no B for KD. Listen, Katie's the greatest, he had the greatest performance of an NBA player at Walker Park ever in history.

I was there It was It was They was throwing in the ball Jada They was throwing in the ball Like And the whole five guys

Was coming up to them Like they were trying to trap them From across the street Water in the net I never seen no shit Like Sound like that is crazy Yo

But not once Twice It's like six times of row It was like They was going They was passed They was taking it out And just say

two steps. It wasn't half caught either. Two steps. It was like the whole team, the other team was going like this to him. He was jumping over the head. Shooting out. You shoot like that outside of the world? You really can shoot. Katie's a problem, man. Big time.

Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get we're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different did you see the colts pretzel that was my other big takeaway from that what was that looks like something that should not be sold oh my so that was my other big cult's

take away they sold that yes might want to go back at the colt stadium yeah I might want to go back to the drawing board on that yeah I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well for generations we're just here trying to enjoy it we hope you all will join us throughout the year and let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry.

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Top five point guards in your era. It was some shit. D. Rose, Russ, Rondo. There you go. That's my guy. People sleep on this guy and I don't know why. It wasn't too many years he did it, but Dan Williams. Yeah.

Darren Williams? See, Will was a kill. Dan Williams. He was killing four nights. He slept on them. And I go CP Oh yeah

In that time CP But I tell you let me tell you this What it's yeah You bring that down I had a stress This is my rookie This is a stress of games

I got D. Rose Rondo Now I go on the road I got Darren Williams Russ And Steve Nash Oh This is Steve Nash

Just running around Steve Nash was like Like come on Who said this schedule up But it's like y'all We can't You got a flung You can't smoke a blood in a month

To go play Steve Nash Who you think cooked me the worst Who? Just guess Well, for y'all guess Guess? I'm gonna say Steve Nash Steve Nash

Steve Mad Bitch won 10 for 10 Well, he's running around He's the best I'm like, boy, I ain't know where I got to keep chasing this Well, let me tell you something

This is some I stood This is a BS kiss I stood when Tony Parker And I was the champs He was a bad motherfucker too I stood in his house with him Right

So I went over there I was performing for something with the San Antonio Spurs. He was like, yo, stay at my house. He got it. His house was crazy. He's too rich. Yeah.

Right? But I watched him. I stood there for like two days and this guy wouldn't stop practicing. Like, when he was number one, he had his own gym. Yeah. So they'd be like five in the morning to come. He got practice. Come back for two hours to eat breakfast, practice.

He did this shit two days in a row. I was like, yo, is this is fucking life? This guy, like... That's your life. He was not. No, that's your life. Oh, so you was doing that. Yeah, you look at it in nowadays, but people build gyms in their house now.

No, listen. No, listen to me. That guy, Tony Parker, they had him... He's one more laid them guards of all time. Here's three beans. Here's an asparagus and go run something. Nah, they had this guy the regiment was out of fucking control with this, dude. I'm sitting there.

I'm like, yo, is this human life? They had this guy? Now, when you locked in, you locked in. Like, when you... Mail prep. You ever thought about meal prep? Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to tell you.

I was there, and I was really shocked. Well, I had other superstar NBA friends that were definitely not doing that. They might have been working out every day. They was getting drunk hanging out all night. I see, Meloelotel. When they were doing, Melo, tell, hey, you're going to work out with me this summer?

Chuck told him. Work out. There's nothing I got to work on. I ain't worked. Silum ain't working. That was nothing I got to work on. Now, you had you a highlight. You legendary

in the Hall of Fame of Ruckus coach. Oh, for sure. Listen to my highlight of all time. Oh, shit. During the lockout, remember? I coached. CP called me to coach his team at Winston Salem

when y'all was having to run. Now this shit Look who's my team You wasn't on Was you with my team? Yeah Let me see I think I was

You had Melo Yeah You had Chris I had Melo He's going to have me At mellow C2P The ring

You Oh Look what my team What Mellow Yeah I remember CP John Wolp

Steph Young Steph He didn't even want To play He was on the bitch Matt He didn't even playing For us

Steph Katie Rudy Rudy Who did was there. He was all on team. He was all on team. And we played against Brian Dewey. Carrey.

Guy. Oh, my. And we won. Yeah. I showed up late. We won. Shit, we're real. We called timeouts. I'm going to talk to my sisters. We're putting in sets. We fucking wash. Oh, that shit is hell. No, no, no. You wasn't there. I shut the gym there.

No, I wasn't dead. I didn't. I threw the ball off the wall. And we milled it. Crazy. And then I went behind the back. Mello ran on the court. They all ran on the court. Jim went thread and shit was in.

It was over. That's my coaching highlight. It was late in the lockout time. That was actually better than mine. Nah, you had years. No, but you're in, yeah, but you had one. You wasn't playing. You were missing runs at the lockout.

You were scared. Because Lockout, you was in everywhere. They didn't want that smoke. Like, even the Goodman lead, that's a D.C. Lee that played Barry Farm. We was going to play Jew League in LA, and they came down there and played us. Fire. They was going everywhere to play.

Everybody was playing. You had to play. You had to make up games. Yeah, they had to go. You only play six six games. So we had to make out, make up games to go play. You know what's crazy is unsung hero to me. One of the greatest ballplayers of that era was Al Harrington.

You're my boy, Al, yes, sir. Al got busy. And for some reason, they never wanted to give him that light or just like, you know, he was too good for what they wanted him for, right? That's another story, right? I don't know if they wanted to go a different direction. And he was an older player. I don't know what it was with him

But every game He had a great career But they could have just made him Like the star focal point They always made him like a support and cast That's what I'm saying But I'm not talking about that What I'm talking about is I used to go to these games

Minnesink Right And there's Al Mello This and the only way to describe this shit to you Was like you ever see them pooled games Like on ESPN When they don't miss And they win seven in a row

he keep hitting this side pocket this till he finally he messed up the other guy come and he's seven it like they're just too good I used to watch one-on-one games

with Al Harrington Mello Zach Randolph and they would just whi watch watch why they professes

track but it's insane it's like the pool game that they can't miss the shit I used to sit there I'd be like who's gonna win this shit

crazy, like, you just don't miss. I was cold, though. He was at his time, too, though. He was a stretch four that could shoot three, put the ball on the floor. And he could be, any good deal. He finished his career almost with us in D.C.

Yeah, Al, he was one of my favorites. Yeah, he was in a pocket. That's crazy, man. But I'm saying, I used to watch pickup games like that with the NBA players. As I'm saying, a lot of people was coming to New York or they was going to be in L.A. at the time to play pickup a lot of time.

Oh, yeah, that was the point? Yeah, that was the point. their points, yeah. So you would come from out of town and be like, yo, I know they're bowling up there. Let me go home. Wow. It's going down.

Like in some of my first time years in the league, I lived in LA because it would be the Drew League. All you would be at Rico Hans at UCLA when you see the three courts? You start off in the middle and you lose. You go to the right. You lose you on the third court. You got working way back up.

It's like 40 fucking big players in there going in there. That's ill. Wow. I never knew that. They still heard that. It'd be lit like the hell yeah. Oh, shit. That's crazy.

What was it like winning the slam? dunk contests. It was cool. It was amazing me. I told him, I said, listen, the only way I get in, I got to make the All-Star game.

Like, if I want to make the All-Star game, then I ain't playing a dunk contest. I'm not, but that year I had a hell of a year. Like, that's when I started to become, like, the star I wanted to become we started to win games. And I was like, oh, shit, I won a dunk contest.

I'm lit. I got a little bonus. Let's go have some fun. Give them a senator bonus for your shoe deal. You know what me? I always had a thing about, I never really wanted to go to a war, shows, even if they invited me,

if I wasn't nominated for an award. I don't know why. It was just a thing. It's just like, why am I spending money to go there? Like, I can see this shit at home. Yeah, I just ain't, I'd be like, yo, and I'm nominated. It's something I'm going to pull up.

Like, I never understood. I would look at artists that I know and love and sitting there and they're not even nominated. I'm like, you what the fuck he's there for? Like, what are you doing, watching everybody else when the shit? You're shit crazy Like

No I never understood that shit Maybe you're going there to socialize I feel about the dunk contest now What is it missing What is the most of the thing for me I'm like the stars The stars got to be in it

They probably feel like you though No the stars are an all-star game though You know what I mean Like you want to see like Come on bro You know you want to see a John Moran Zion Williamson You know what I mean

Like you want to see He said he didn't go unless he make it Yeah Like you But he made the all-star game He ain't made... Who said that? They didn't hurt.

Sorry. Say he ain't getting in the dunk. But, like, those, like, you know what I mean? You got to think best if you had to stay on-star. But when the off-I-Ga-old guy, he's like, he's like a baby, DeMarcus cousins, and the meaning... It means what? Meaning that he got... I throw this flag, so...

No. No, I'm saying. Injury-prone. No, no, no. So... Boney cousins is... Look, he never got hurt until he got New Orleans. So when he tore...

That's what happens. I got hurt. I get that. That's what I'm saying. Zion's been hurt since Duke. I get it. What I'm saying to you is that Zion, because he's been hurt,

so perfectly healthy Zion, he don't make the All-Star game? He will, but he's perfectly healthy Zion is fucking killing. When he did a dump contest is what we're saying, like both of him and Josh said they wouldn't do it no matter what. I think he's too big to be in the contest. But John Moran shit, everybody wants to see that. No, John Moran is great.

I'm talking about Zion. When you used to watch you, that Kobe in there, You had business in Team Mac, Steve Frank. You had all the stars in it, so that's what we want to see. It started with LeBron, who we call the King. Yeah, he should have been in. When he started like, yo, I'm not doing it. That's when everybody else got it.

Well, I'll tell you one thing, though. A lot of guys are being in game dunkers. They're not duck content dunkers. It's different. There. Now, the spotlight is on you when you by yourself. Man, they got a little white boy. They got a little white boy busting their ass every year.

He got the G-Leet. They give him a 10-day contract. And he comes bust their ass. When you should have been a tie? That was air going and Zach was impeccable. Oh, no, no. That was crazy. They were doing some shit out.

What? What the craziest shit was Vince Carter. Come on. No, no. Fis Carter was insane. That wasn't crazy. But Zach Levine was in the free throw line. And the air going to get the spinach.

Come on, bro. No, no, no. We charted. I see this shit. But see, Vince was effective because nobody never seen it me. Vincent, that's what I'm trying to say. But now you go to these guys. So he's the first.

No, no, it is. But shit. You ain't never seen anybody go to twin and left for No, no, no, no. But what I'm trying to tell you is they always take one. They changed one. He was a hell of a dunk. He used to do shit.

He was impeccable, but getting a dunk contest? Let me he was on the Knicks. The boy he kept in the back booths. I'm like, come on, Jay. He knows you can do this. I would say you do this plenty of time. We made him from the free throw line. A smile of a man, the dogs can do.

He ended up playing in, um. Yo, he's out against. No, I'm fried. A little ice kid, that's fast than dogs can do. That's Montailles. But we know, but we know. Who he is? Who's the Dawkins dude?

He used to dunk his fucking ass off, man. Do you agree? Eli's skin. He's the Boston. Oh, no, no, Darcy. Oh, no. He was a motherfucker. Not on just Boston.

He was on a bunch of other teams. He was a big man. You know who I used to love Finley. Michael, I'm not talking about Michael Finley's game. He had two foot. I used to love his game. He got a hot step is over. Did you got to look at Desmond?

What's his name? Desmond. No, Desmond. Desmond, he was on the Sonics. Sonics. He was on. Sal Mason. I did his win it

Yeah Child damn Hey, Jay, you're talking about Jay Rich You're talking about Jay Rich You got an anniversary I'm with your tag team now Jay Rich

You're talking? Jay Rich He didn't talk about He was never on the boards Played on Golden State And played on Golden State And he didn't play his foot It's fun of it

No, son got stupid bounce right now High School I'm positive He won a done contest He won a done contest They're in New York Younger son Yo, that nigga, Jay Rich.

He was a mom. He was a monsoon, though. His son is doing that shit? He could Google a YouTube, but he just won a slam dunk contest that he had a runk apart. He was the ones. Crazy.

Jay Rich? He might have more bouncing his dad. I ain't going to lie. More than his father? Oh, the shit, he was doing that dumb contest. I'm like, no way. The oldest son, you know, the oldest son was at Michigan State.

Yeah, he didn't know that. He's got to magic. He's got to play. Matter of fact, Riches son plays with the boozes. He'd go to school with a boozeance in one, too. It was a guy in the Rocklanders. He was a guy in the Rutgers.

You remember the Wally Dickerson, the main event? Oh, Wally, yeah. This guy, say the basket was here, right? This is the basket in the air, right? This guy would be over the shit. Like, he could just fall asleep on the event. Boom, I've never seen nobody. His dunks were equivalent to Mike Tyson not going to do that.

When Mike Tyson went. boom and the dude four that crowd every dunk was like wow like I'll be in the back I'd be like y'all gotta see this shit

like like he was like and you felt like like he was just tearing the rim off that you miss it back then and you had no no game

it was the rocker I'm just missing though you miss it and nobody got everybody just telling you you've seen that shit you'd like imagine I'm outside

I'm outside talking to my team we got the next game and the fucking crowd is and bar fucking nannis. I'm like, yo, yo, yo, you know we got to win. Yo, yo, I'm dying to see this guy. Dump.

But, you know, that's the best at Kemp's the A&U games, though. You didn't get to the gym yet, or you're playing the other court, and you just hit that muffled on. They'd be like, yo, what the fuck? That's that boy over there. Like, damn, I got to pause my game and go watch this. That's crazy. And Kemp, they used to stop games and just be like, no, we're going to watch this game.

For real? They're done. Hell, you know. That's hell. If somebody who's going crazy. ABCD camp, they probably stopped games that ABCD camp up there. Hell yeah.

Well, O'Don Lance was going at it. Everybody stopped to watch. I got to see this. He got to ask you who? OJ. Mayo. Oh, yeah. This one, Lance was a freshman, right? I'm in eighth grader.

I can't lie. I got to give it up to Sebastian. I want a couple of those. They had the league in my hand. I seen him one day. I was doing with the Louisville, though. He had a dude like a bobblehead. Yeah, one day dude was checking.

him, I ain't going to lie to you. He had him with the bobble head. The dude was checking him. The dude's head was like, yo, I'm looking for the crowd. He got the dude like the bobble head. Like, I never seen pulling the back. He had like, you know, when you got a sucker for a move,

like you know you got him, you can just keep fucking he was bobbleheadness. He was up there trying to deal with him out. Then Antonio Lange. Oh, man, he came back. He had him doing this. like I know I got you. You're on the roads. Well, AI wasn't fair for AI.

The whole thing wasn't fair for it. I was with AIA every day. Google that, guys. And let me tell you to them coats he was getting fine for was FJ560 coats. I'm in Philly with A.I. AI was getting fine for his clothes every day, what, 15,000 for wearing street clothes? Yeah, they changed the Jets coat because, you know. They changed the dress code because of AI.

AI, they worked so much against this guy. Like, they hated AI, to be honest with you. They hated it. They had a real guy like that in the league, and they couldn't control him. And all the kids wanted to be. He played. The guy making it from the hood that really did it the way he wanted the whole way. So you're like, oh, this is possible.

And they ain't like that. Then you got the rappers, man. So this is definitely possible. I was with him I don't smoke I don't drink The coach used to look at me side eyes

all the time Like he swore Was Fat Joe He Lay Brown Yeah it's not even Larry Brown What's the owner Oh Pat Croce

Oh Pat Croce He straight up told me You know I did the movie With him With Adam Sandler That movie They filmed in

Basketball movie Adam Sandler right With Adam Sandler But Pat Croce was one of the Cameos like me Because in the movie We go to a funeral

And he said Fat Joe I said I've been watching you I'm glad how your career ended. I said, yeah, he said, I used to tell him keep Chuck away from you, this and that, you come to the games, this and I see, your, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't get in trouble.

I don't know why the fuck he was watching them from me. I'm actually the good guy. They get him the one that got him with. He thought I was the guy, and I was over there, so was the motherfucker hanging out with them. You know what I'm saying? But, yo, AI, man, you know, he did it his way. He said a trend, though.

Big trend But now you look at it And now you can dress any type of weight Like don't even man They don't give them credit Now they fucking Now they do the runway Now they do the runway

Fit check Yeah he's supposed to get Right here we don't Let me get the flag Let me get the flag The red one Calling reparations for AI AI got fine

15,000 a game for dressing And now the NBA Is showing SGA's outfit everybody. Reparations. Money back for AI. I'm calling that one. I like that. I'm saying there's a foul. He's going to fall on deaf ears, but I like. All right, well, you got to try. You know we got the number one podcast in the game, bro.

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He's saying that right now. No, he already know what time it is. My thing is those guys are right their podcast started today said they got somebody Hey y'all

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You know what the fucking about these rules? It's the crazy Joe segment. Sponsed by Mennon. sponsored by some type of fucking medicine, right? Then you gotta give you some fucking medicine or something, man, because I'm trying to tell you... Listen, listen.

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Because I'm now on some bullshit, so my adrenaline is on a number... What was you scored? Fifty-two... What was you? I didn't know why I cut out on all the podcasts. I wouldn't know. I was crazy.

What kind of zone was you with? I was in a different zone, but I was pissed we lost. But I was in the zone, though. I was in a zone. Like, you just getting that mode where, like you said, a basket just a lot like the ocean. Dang, every shout-out. Is that true?

Is that true? In the NBA game, it got to be. Like, for me, like I always spending, people, I can go get buckets whenever, but that wasn't, for my team to win, I had to get everybody involved. I mean, I wasn't have to be a score and poor guard, but when I needed to, I could do it. But I got to be honest with you, John.

I literally prayed and pick up games if you're like, God, if you're real, let me get the basket this big. Let me hit this shit 30 times to the world. I literally prayed. I didn't know if it was actually true. In pick up games, I wish I could have just been like.

I'm telling you know, what's the highlight real? It never worked. We just had this talking about birthday dinner. It was like, we just like, what you're averaging in the summer? it's like once someone I was having like 70 like he's like I couldn't miss no matter why I played it's like

who it was in front of him like you're getting cooked you just seeing that it's just here to a point where like no matter who in front of you just like the basket's like fuck in front of you test it I'm saying like basket

you're seeing that shit like this oh you don't see nobody you're not even think you thought you hit the rim and the shit expanded and the shit went it like it's like a cartoon this nigga today

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That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the...

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get your podcasts. So John Wall commentator, I like that. You know what I'm saying? I believe that people who played the game with their blood, sweat, and tears come up here and talk about when they're 13 years old, and now they got so much knowledge of the game. They played against Kobe Bryant, AI, this and that. Got something to say, that's what I'm talking about.

When I look at these other podcasts, you see these motherfuckers never did shit in their life. You know what I'm saying? Never rap, never played the game. Never fucking gave out a flyer. Never said, hi, I'm Fat Joe, and gave him a poster or kiss the baby or kiss somebody's ass to get his record played on the radio

or fucking promoter sick Doberman pictures on you. I mean, you ain't get that in the NBA. No, no, no, we went to kissing babies. Like, you know, you got to... I said something else. What I said, kissing ass? You got to kiss an ass to get in the fucking up radio. I'm telling you a fact of life.

I believe you. The radio game is all politics. So you got to go over there. Imagine going up in there. Think of the biggest stars you ever seen in your life. They got to walk in there and act like they like them people and kiss them. And hey, how are you guys doing? You heard my new song.

These guys are billionaires. Say a guy like, I know he don't do it. But at once in his life, he had to do it. Say a guy like Chris Brown, who's floating in the air right now with stadiums every day. he has had to go to the radio to say, this is my new song. Please play it. You're powerful people.

You gods on the earth, can you play that? You have to play that game with these radio people like this. I had a song when number five in the country, man, I won't say his name because he supported me. You got to say some of these guys' names, man. We're in journalism. I can't say his name.

What I'm going to say is this man, I wouldn't do it because the man did support me for 20 years straight. one record he didn't want to support. What the one, number one? If he went and told all his DJs, you're I ain't feeling that. That's like Fat Joe telling the Terror Squad,

you all ain't feeling that. But him jumping on that call with them 40 DJs, to him, yo, I'm not really feeling this Fat Joe record. But he supported me my whole life. So I would be a sucker if I start cursing him out or beefing with him because a man supported me on 40 records is the one record he took off. But I missed out on number one.

The shit went number five. And he said, yo, man, give it a chance. The shit would have one in America. But this is the type of power they have. But that's just one aspect. But when I'm looking at podcasts and the guys, I don't know these guys.

Who's these guys? Guys sitting there talking about this and this and that. And then I looked at one podcast. What are you talking about? Because now I'm in the podcast. Yes, it's good as mine. I don't even, I couldn't tell you the niggas name. Yo, I couldn't tell you his name if I wanted to

is what I'm trying to tell you. But he's somebody. So the other day, because, you know, I'm in, bro, I'm in the podcast world right now. I believe, like me and him. No, no. I'm doing the analytics. I'm doing this.

I know what to win. I know what to do. I know what they're, I'm studying this game. So I'm studying this one guy. He got a lot of juice where I was sitting there. He said, he said the other day and the interview, yeah, when we did this and this, I was like, oh, he did something.

So I want to know what he did in the industry. I know Tated Kiss. I know Norrie. I know, I'm not, well, what this is. this guy did. So now here, he was like, yeah, you know, when they try to come backstage, they dis-knows,

oh, he was down with dumb, I guess. That's, he, because. Yeah, you got the notorious. I just seen recently when you came out and did the duggy. You said Gil gave some bread to do that? Now, don't do the ducky, bro. No, he killed him.

I'm against the ducky. I'm against, then that was 2010. That was cool. No, let me show you. I came on here. Kids always trying to defend, y'all. I'm not with the basketball player. I'm not with LeBron James.

For one. Being 40 years old doing. That's done. My man, you're 40 years old. Do a two-step. Do something. Don't be... What you're doing?

What are you doing? Yo, LeBron, you got to stop. Hey, yo. You got to stop. You're a cocked-dezoo, seven-foot dude, doing the shit, the young dudes just doing it, like, yo, you got to stop. What is the leg?

By the way, I'm old. I never, some of us got to realize that they're getting old, too. And you can't be doing the twins dance. Whatever the twins are doing on TikTok right now, LeBron Jay is not supposed to do that.

Yeah, I'm on TikTok. Right now. Me either. But what I'm telling you is, I do see LeBron James. I do see LeBron James. I can't do whatever dancing you want to do. I used to hate that shit.

I go in the club and a seven foot start doing the duggy. I ain't seven foot, though. Yeah. What's from with this guy? What kind of... What kind of music you listen to? What kind of rap is you like?

Don't do it. What was your type of music for working out, or what kind of did you warm up? I can't believe this non-dance or he break dance. Ma's like... Day to break dance. Weezy. Wheezy? You for sure.

Not because you hear but you. I like dirt. I like that. I like little. I like Lil Durk. I like Lil Durk. Dirk. Free Smurry.

Free smirk. I listen to Future. No doubt. Pluto. Got to listen to you. My nephews. That's really it for real. That's five.

Who's your nephews? Wallway, Fow. And Wallway, too. Yeah, they young artists. Shout them out. I see it. Wallway, Pac. Wallway, too.

They know about them. They just came home. So, shout out there. They about to get back in the music business. Oh, they just came home. Yeah. Don't doubt. Welcome on.

Let's go. Send me something. God bless. So that's your guys. Right, you love hip-hop. No, no, nephews, you know, we got to... Yeah, I love music, though. I listen to music all day.

I think, so what would you listen to in the big game? Like, you go on the playoffs. At least, man, that's 20, I'm going to call the three dedication, too. I'm locked in. That carter three changed my... Like, that's all through, like, middle school, high school for me, so... You're in college, that's all I was listening to them. Like, you're going to ever change this shit?

Hell love. I had a black ultimatons. That's all I was bumping. I think if I was a ball playing, I'm about to play a big game. I'm listening to some DMX or something. Yeah, I used to listen. I'm like, I want some shit.

Bring it! We ride here. We ain't going anywhere. We ride here. Like, I'm trying to listen to some shit like that. Yeah, I listen to like I'm me. Because I'm me. You feel?

Like, you're in my zone. Like, I'm here. No, I'm with the car to three. I'm with everything Lil Wayne never did. In fact, Little Wayne never did. In fact, Little Wayne, let's salute Wayne. Let's salute the game, right? Because when you listen to traditional West Coast music, although Game could touch it, his sound has always been universal.

It could be East Coast down, whatever. Game got a sound that could go everywhere, right? And with Little Wayne, he was the first guy to come like really straight out the South. Of course you got Goody Mob, you got Andre 3,000, but that sounds like South. music. This guy was rapping to like hardcore beats, but was throwing these flows on the shit. It never been seen. I'll tell you one

little Wayne story. We do the taking over with Calais. I thought I had everybody. When you see crack, better duck like the Mac got to eat fast. They don't want to sit. I don't give fuck. I run it. I thought I had everybody on the I heard everybody's verse.

No, I don't think that all the time. I'm not. No, for sure. I'm not denues you do. No, I don't always think that. I'm confident. No, no, there's some times. I know.

It's going to be like that, but at the time being, I don't think I'm the best. I make anthems. It is what it is. But that one record, I thought I had him, kiss. And then we go, and I go with Charlie. He says, yo, come with me. Let's convince Wayne to get on this record. I said, no problem.

We play it for Wayne. Wayne is in the studio. He's not even in the big studio. He's upstairs in the. in the hip factory but upstairs he got a room with just

the whole shit of speakers and he's up in there and he plays the shit and he's staring at the speakers he gets in the studio in the booth

and crank it up he goes I am the beast feed me hip hop or feed me beats I'm on less on easy street why are less on easy

I said motherfucker why did I bring talent over here begging this motherfucker to get on this record. Like, I begged you to get on New York. I don't know

if you recall. Fat Joe begged you to get on New York and send you that beat. Little Wayne, I begged him to get on taking over. I'm telling you the truth. Okay. I got you. I don't know. I don't recall.

No, I'm just telling you. That's what happened. I'm telling you what happened. Same thing with Lil Wayne. I go over there, yo, we really need you wheezy. Hey, hey, see. I am a beast Feed me hip hop A feed me beast

I'm wrapped on DG tree Why relax on easy street I was like I was like I walk out of that fucking studio Dizzy my head

No it was Hello You're thinking Oh yeah Joe You know you got to feel Like you're the best No I walked out of them stairs

Like Knowing I got destroyed on that shit I'm walking down the stairs I was like, Gallo's like, yo, we got it. You heard what he said?

I'm like, fuck out of here, bro. The motherfucker that destroyed my side like a motherfucker on this bitch. I thought I finally had these guys. He can't, nah, nah.

Little Wayne, he's different. We're taking over. Montailles. He was a step ahead of everybody. I'm telling you guys, you look at him and he's at the basket, beautiful.

right little wayne he was a step of heaven he was a little bit faster he was a little he was a little it was something to him where he dumb out he just you like that too but he dumb out like he just be like there and he ain't going to let go he's like a pit bull once he got you and you're like oh shit he just won't stop he'll just keep doubling tripling quadrupling down on that shit come on man man was taking beats He was taking what, Jay-Z? What's the shit? He did over the Jay-Z beat.

When Lil-Wain did that? We didn't even know you could rhyme to that shit. With Jay-Z-B? Oh, no, he did one of them. I don't know what it was. He did one of them shit's over so legendary. The Little Wayne on there? I didn't know you could rap like that on that beat.

Like we did, he heard that, listen, man. John Wall, man, we thank you for putting up with me, man. When the season start? October 26, I think. I can't wait. Look out. Get ready to see.

He ready to be 24. It's all right. Dirk and the whiskey is, is commentator? Blake Griffin, Dirk. Me, Eudanis. He weighs, Steve Nash, Candace, Parker, and Rudy Gade. Now, we go, I love Candice Parker as an analyst. Rudy A's always got guy, right?

But where's him? October 24th. When is? He's doing the next game? When is Michael Jordan commentating? We don't know the different network. You don't know a different network. That's NBC without.

If you're not analyzing, if you're not talking, commentating that day, you're not watching MJ to see what he's saying on that money. What do you think MJ going to sound like? Could you do a personation of how MJ going to sound? No, I ain't got no real conversation. I don't even know. No, I do. but Jay to do too

But what I'm saying is What he's going to sound like I don't think nobody can do an impersonation to MJ We got to get Harry Spitz Before the season He definitely will do the MJ Eddie Piz

But like not no analyst Like we don't know What he'll tell him about That's what I can't But what you think They're going to talk about I really don't know Talk about Isos at the elbow

You know that's his bread and butter So is at the hell You got to see what else He don't talk about Me I can't wait to work with Steve Cash No way I want to pick his brain. Dirk New Whiskey, one of the greatest players ever.

He was water from the three. His run, he was out of. The finals run. No, no, he was out of. I'm just saying his finals run? Yeah, he was in his final. He was unconscious, Dirk, New Whiskey. When I used to play the 2K, I always played with Dirk.

I'm saying the teams he went through when that finals was crazy. That run? Yes. He'd be U. Miami, right? Yeah, but he had to get through the West first. Yeah, Dirk was in. Dirk is the unsung Dirk is in the unsung hero

My favorite My favorite power forward of all time Tim Duncan And he didn't need to be flash He didn't need to be flash He just got the job done Big fundamental Big fundamental

Who got the job done All the time But they had A big squad in the system Oh no they had They were like the Patriots What's my man from Paris What's my man

No no the other one Boris Dio I was from Paris, too. And I, oh, he's so good about Genoa. He started the shit. Genoa.

Argentina. Argentina. You said, Romilly. You got me thinking about somebody else. No, Genobley started out. He started in Paris.

Oh, my God. I know I fucked up. I fucked up. Gober. Oh, they have, man, though. We ain't those first. Yo, what's up with Rudy Gober?

You don't rate them like that? No, it. Damn. You've seen your band. Julius Wando just said he did great last year because he ain't smoked weed. He played sober. And he said, with the

Knicks and all that, he was high every day. And he was just in his own... He just said that. He just said that. No, no, no, no. I'm telling you what I'm saying. I saw it. Well, look, you got to look like this, though. Some people can do it. Some people can't. Some people can drink and go get you 30

every night. Everybody, body, different. I get it. That's a fat. No, I'm just saying like, so you're always with the smokers, man. I'm not saying the smoke. I'm just saying, like, you got some people that can drink all night and don't get no rest, we're going to get you for a day.

Last year, Julius Wendoo played sharp. He said nothing because how about it me this year you have a garbage year? He's going to have a garbage year. He ain't never going to have a garbage year. Julius Wandoo is a tough thing. I mean, it's like a D-Clunk. Oh, he might, you know. That's my God.

I love the guy, but he brought up Rudy Gaubert. I thought about it because they're on the same team. What you think about my man Anthony Edwards? Killer. He has their old-school mentality. I ain't got no friends when I get between these four-marked. I don't care. Who is out here?

Yeah, I'm killing. I just wish he could go to the basketball more, though. That's all. Too athletic, too fast. But with the league, they wanted to shoot 14-3 of the game. But him is nothing you could do with him. This guy has GA. Nice couple.

You know what school he went to? That's fat. Best dress NBA player of all time SGA You can't know you're wearing the red Nike shit grow

Like you got to stop Hey You got to chill You're like y'all You're like y'all You know SGA Who's the best dressed

NBA He played him up all time He only got He's frying Niggas out there Like SGA's Get Wardrobe He's out of control

Fashion Week every day He's all problem, SGA. Go now, do me a favor. Yeah, I would wear that. Yeah, I wear that. If it's fly, I'm going to wear it. He's cooking. He throw that shit on.

No, no, he throw that super shit on. Some of something, I can't get jingy with something. That's wrong. The fact is something of that. I can't get jingy with some. Yo, I don't think he, I don't, I really don't get what you're saying. Like, I don't think he can. Some of them guys that, now, he ain't wearing a skirt.

I'm just asking a question. SGA, that's a fast. I'm telling you, he's not wearing a skirt. I just say he did, I'm asking. Would you wear it for fashion? No, some of the rappers you just said was top five was wearing skirts and all that shit. Over there, the millions of those. You're talking to the wrong guy, but skirt.

Trayman throw that shit on. He thought that earth. He threw that earth. He told them back jerseys backwards. Nobody on the planet Earth, okay? Fuck ball players. Nobody on the planet Earth. You're talking about these guys in the world right now.

SGA. five. That's one. He must have sent you a package. You don't tell me shit. He gave him the converse. No, he's no converse. SGA is throwing that shit on. Okay, cool.

I'm saying, name me four of the guy you said they put that shit. It's hard. I'm just saying these guys really light years ahead of everybody. I'm trying to tell you. Other people they throw shit on. He's going through that vintage shit. He just. Ron throw that shit.

I'll be having that shit on too, Brown. The Bronth throw some good shit on. He got that SGA going that old vintage shit. Yeah, but SGA, he, he, he, he, he, he, he threw that shit. Sometimes they do too much, huh? The kid Alexander Walker get fly, too. I don't know. That's his cousin. He didn't want to work shoes.

Oh, boy, throw that shit on. Yeah, boy, boy getting fly. Oh, boy, he should be better. He is, it's just a wrong situation, bro. Like, listen, let me explain something to you. It's all about where you get drafted and what teens fuck with you. One wrong situation, four years if we put you on. I remember I seen him his first place.

I've seen him, I was like, oh, this guy's going to be a time. It's just right situation, though. No, I'm like, listen, if you stop me watching Bull, boy, I was like, yo, I was bragging to everybody. Oh, okay, you're about to be the man. I mean, you three people right now. Who? Julius ran up the lake and he was just okay, right? Yes, sir.

Got to the Knicks, get to an all-start new art. I'm saying they could always. I'm saying, it's a right situation. Who are you, who's five players that you call an unsung hero that right now got that you, You see they're not getting their props And in like two years, three years They can explode Are they playing right now?

They're playing, but they're not. Look at ball. He's playing but not playing, but not playing. I think there's Garland to be underrated. John the Camiga underrated. Garland is like a loser, man. I'm just keeping it in the ball. They just have no one team in the way.

He's fold all the time, man. He's not the one. He's not the one. He's not the one. First of all, he's not no one guy on their team, though. You know, Donovan Mitchell, dad, nice. We're not saying that, but shit, he unfolding a couple of times, too. Yeah, but Utah.

He needs the whole team. Come on, you can't, can you just, how are you going to blame Derr's Garland? He's the third best on their team. You go through Donovan Mitchell, then he goes to Evan Mobley, then it's Darrylton. You start with my first two guys? You think Garland is third?

Who else? I'm thinking he's second. Evan Mobley, they go-to guy the second option. Right, so who else? Who are you saying? He's talented. All right. There's a lot of people that fall, though.

It ain't just you. You got to get some help. Nah, it ain't just you. You're right. You're correct. So you ain't got the most unsung heroes who should be like... I get another, Jamar, Mary, underrated me.

Like, a lot of people don't give him his credit. He should have been an all-star already on the West. He's another one that ain't a dog. It ain't got to be a dog. Oh, you ain't married. But I'm just saying... With Denver, with Yokage. Oh, no, he's incredible.

Yes, but he's never in an all-star game, though. Oh, careful. Like, how I finish one of you and he's so used for my light-skine. What a light skin dude that used to play for Atlanta that they traded him? Oh, you're talking about, uh, what's his name, John Collins?

No, John Collins was really good, but there's another light skin kid they traded from Atlanta. No, he's, like, he is like a star, he just ain't a merge. Like, I think his name is Murray.

Oh, you're talking about the Jante Murray. The Jontz. No, he's cold. Yeah, he's all right. But you got a thing, though. Let me find out. He's really talented.

I like Trey Young a lot, right? I like Trey Young a lot, right? Nice, right? Right? A lot of people always want to leave him in when they're playing with him. Nobody really wants to stay. He's nice, cold.

Like, I feel like he's underrated, but it's just some people don't like playing with him. Is Dante Mere was killing with the Spurs? Not for nothing, Tray Young, he might be the most underrated. He might be the most... He's killer. No, he definitely do that.

I can't rule the dice that half-co. Yeah, he didn't have, of course. Why ain't through that, man? He's a cook, y'all. No, not. I did 360 layer boy, y'all. You was at the game, probably, huh? Yeah, John.

It was Christmas. I know you was there. Listen. That was a good gift. Yeah, y'all got to come up with the pitcher, fat Joe, with the fucking Santa hat on with him score. He's doing the 360 layer. Man, we don't got cooked so many times.

This shit. Especially on Christmas. You should buy tickets to get cooked. You're like, you're going to. Obie coming. You think he's going to drop 60 or 70? Like, that's when... Motherfuckers are going to see us get caught. This man.

Diggins get in another bag in the garden, though. It's the spotlight, bro. It's the mecca. I never forget. You dream. It's certain places like that. You go to L.A. You go to Miami. You're like, I got to put on the show. There's not a time of tens you're outside. Let me tell you something.

And the mecca, their lights get dark? I'm friends. And you're on a stage. With a lot of NBA players. a lot of them I've been to their house they don't want like the Knicks, they don't like New York but they all got a poster of the most they scored

in New York. They don't guard you. It's your Madison Square gone and I dropped 52 I dropped 43 this. I'm like, yo bro if you don't give a fuck about New York It's the Mecca. If we ain't shit why you got the one poster when you drop 42 on us on your fucking wall. We have things to Mecca.

Let's get ready for the season, y'all. Thank my brother John Wall for coming through. We appreciate you. Look out for them on Amazon. It's all about Amazon, man. Check them out doing it stand. Happy birthday. Appreciate it.

Happy belated to him. Happy birthday to our brother Rich. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. We want to thank our guest John Wolfe for coming through. We want to thank the Found Blue for a lot of shoes of property. And we see y'all next week.

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