Joe and Jada - Karl-Anthony Towns on Knicks offseason, Wolves & NBA journey, Dominican pride
Episode Date: September 25, 2025Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by New York Knicks superstar Karl-Anthony Towns. Joe and Jada ask the five-time NBA All-Star about the New York Knicks offseason, their run going through the Detroit Pi...stons and Boston Celtics to make the Eastern Conference Finals in the last year's NBA playoffs, the gut punch that came with losing to Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers, and how New York is looking going into this season with Mike Brown taking over for head coach Tom Thibodeau. They also discuss KAT's early years being mentored by Kevin Garnett on the Minnesota Timberwolves. KAT's legendary University of Kentucky college basketball squad, and why KAT is more motivated by gaining the respect of New York than money at this point in his NBA career. 5:00 - 30-1 Kentucky team 10:00 - Getting drafted No. 1 to Minnesota 15:30 - Rookie season & KG as a mentor 17:00 - Joe tries to compliment Guerschon Yabusele 21:30 - Mike Brown taking over for Thibs 24:45 - East is wide open w/ Tatum & Haliburton out 27:00 - Jadakiss calls out the refs for KAT 34:30 - His reaction to being traded to the Knicks 36:00 - KAT's girlfriend Jordyn Woods' fashion line 38:15 - Best big man three-point shooter ever? 42:00 - KAT credits his dad for his basketball gifts 47:00 - Avenging last year's loss to Pacers in ECF 49:30 - MSG & why there's nowhere like New York 51:30 - Love for Dominican Republic 56:00 - Joe's been KAT's biggest defender in NYC barber shops [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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When I was younger, it was always a chase of like every young artist who bring up the bag, the money falling out.
Like, I'm not fulfilled by that.
In New York, I always talk about it.
It's the greatest currency you can get in New York.
It's respect.
It's O'S O'Say, Antonio Cali-Tagena.
She's your boy Jader, man.
You know who it is?
The Joe and Jader show,
every show legendary, every show iconic.
You never know who's going to come sit on the blue couch.
You know, I'm basketball.
to the death.
So is my brother.
Ladies and gentlemen,
make some noise
for New York Knicks' own.
New Jersey's home.
Carl Anthony Towns,
make something more.
Let me see.
Oh,
got it.
Oh, me Nicado.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh,
oh,
oh,
oh,
my God.
You!
Special brief.
That's the special breed.
You know, my godfather was Dominican.
For real?
No, sir.
What do you want me to do?
I got to get a porta potty back here
because I can't even make it to the bathroom down with you stop this shit, though.
My godfather's a great man.
My father was a great man, rest of the peace.
But my godfather, he felt.
filled in wherever my father didn't,
took me places and the Yankee games
and this shit took me to museums
and he lived in Dyckman
and that's how I became real tight with the Dominican culture.
Only thing I hated, they used to make me eat the red,
the beets.
Oh.
What they call that in Spanish, the, this is even funny in Spanish,
the beet salad.
Dominicans eat the beat salad.
I ain't ever had that.
Shit, bro.
Beats is good for you.
That shit like poison, man.
That's Pete, talk to him, man.
Beats is good.
Beats.
It's been, Marilla, some shit, man.
Yo, that man used to force me.
I used to damn near cry to eat that shit.
He was a great man, so I always love Dominicans, man.
Oh, Carl Anthony Town.
Yes, Sersky.
We had your brother on.
Recently, we just interviewed your Big Blue Nation brother, John Wall.
Yes, sir.
It was a great interview.
Check that out.
You know, I love a boss, so I got to.
I love basketball.
No flags.
I love,
from basketball to the heart,
I'm gonna ask you,
you can tell me to stop anytime.
No, I don't know, actually, man, shit.
Nah, nah, not.
38 and 1.
Yeah.
With the final four appearance.
I know.
One season of Kentucky,
how was your experience?
How was Coach Cowell?
How was the royalty?
What was going on on campus?
Let me know some of these things that...
Nah, it's special.
That place is special.
So it's crazy.
I haven't had that kind of experience with the fans appreciating a game of basketball that way until really I got here.
And Minnesota was great, but just the energy the city has for the game, you know, I grew up here and just noticing all that stuff.
And I said it before, you know, playing and you work with the Goucho's gym and everything and always being around, playing at Rucker Part 2 and everything.
It was crazy to be able to kind of relive that kind of energy basketball again.
And I haven't had that kind of experiences until I got here.
John Wall also said he brought to our attention to college basketball.
Went dormant a little.
It lost its fluidity a little to Kentucky.
Cal started rolling y'all out.
Like, y'all was celebrities.
Like, y'all was real.
People was running home.
Catch the games.
You don't want to miss.
No games.
No tournament.
He made y'all.
It's like he evolutionized.
what was going on with the fab five and them,
they kind of paved the way.
But when y'all got there,
y'all was like an NBA team in college.
What is that like?
I mean, we fell out rock stars there.
You know, everywhere we went, you know,
people noticed who we were.
Then I interview was the number one guy on the team
where he was at the end of the bench.
Everyone was rock stars.
And, you know, the crazy stories being there
and just seeing how the fans and interactions went,
you know, March midnight madness was something like a movie.
So it was crazy to have those kind of moments.
And especially with a team like that, you know, such a historical team.
Cal always told us make sure we enjoy these moments because you'll never have that much talent in one room for basketball ever again.
That's crazy because your man, John Wall said the Cal told him, yo, make sure you take some guys in the peace.
It was different for us.
I mean, we had nine draft picks, you know, I think we had two.
They had five.
They had five.
First round.
Yeah, they had five first round.
He was like, yo, make sure you take some guys with you.
Yeah.
And the people who didn't even go to the NBA on our team that year
ended up going to the NBA the next year.
So he's really, I mean, that's a great thing, man.
That's a story.
That's a dream come true.
Yeah.
I mean, it's special.
I mean, like he said, it's true.
That was a key lesson for me, like in life.
And even for last year, too, with our team, just staying the president.
enjoy this moment, you know, don't worry about the future.
Don't worry about what everything that could come with this situation, just enjoy being in
the present because you're never going to get these moments back.
You may never be in the same room again with these guys.
You was young.
Did you understand exactly what he was?
I did.
I did.
If I was young, I didn't understand that.
You know what?
I was fortunate.
I had experiences that had already told me to experience to enjoy life in the present.
With, you know, my uncle passing away and little things in life that, you know,
they just teach you, you know, it humbles you.
gives you experience.
It makes you understand certain things.
When you were younger, you think you know everything.
And obviously you get older and you're like,
what the hell was I think?
You know, so I had those moments already in life
where appreciating the present was a big key for me.
You know, it's even like that now, right?
Like, I got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice,
who's got more money than me, more success than everything.
But I felt like I had to tell them some.
Yeah.
And that's really, really hard, even with the young kids, right?
With the young rapists, people be like,
yo, why don't you pull a young?
I'm like, yo, bro, he's got a young kid
that was, the odds was one out of every 20 million.
He's rich now.
He made it happen.
How the hell I'm going to tell him anything?
What to do, let alone another legend.
Yeah.
But I felt like I wasn't keeping it real
if I didn't sit down and tell him,
yo, look, I'm going to tell you something.
I want you to get mad at me.
I want this to mess up my relationship.
but if you don't see what I'm telling you now,
in five years, you'll understand.
Because it happened to me.
People try to tell myself, I'm like,
you know, what they're talking about?
And five years later,
I'm sitting on a couch somewhere,
and I said, damn, they try to put me on.
And I was in the way of myself.
Yeah.
So it's just so hard to be in the moment
and be present
because sometimes when you overcome so many odds,
like, you know, you fucking, you know, you can't.
Like, who's going to be?
be able to tell you something.
Nah.
You know?
You got to listen to the legends, man.
Y'all, y'all in hip hop and culture, y'all, y'all paid the way for these, you know,
the new guys to be able to rap that way, to be able to move that way to be able to
wear the clothes they wear and stuff.
So it's like, you got to always listen to the legends.
And for me in basketball, you know, you know, KG was my vet.
You know, you're going to get into that.
You know what I'm going to get into that.
So I came into the NBA with already have playing with Al Horford on the Dominican team to
giving a national team and stuff,
but then now you're going on with Kay.
So you had that bond ahead of time?
I had more of the old school mentality
of approaching work, you know,
like you'd be the first one in the gym,
last one to leave,
but in that time it's about the quality.
It's not about just being able to say that.
You know, people, you know,
you can be the first one to the gym
to do nothing until practice
and then after practice leave.
So, you know, like actually utilizing that time,
enjoy weightlifting,
enjoying, you know, understanding diet,
understanding like how to move as a professional,
know how to communicate with people, you know, never one of the things with KG was like
calling everyone by their name, understanding the refs names, you know, like, you know, treating
men like men, you know, not acting like you better than anybody and stuff like that.
He taught me a lot.
2015, he drafted number one overall.
We're going to take it back a little bit to the Miami-Tenmore.
That sounds crazy now, man.
That sounds crazy.
Ten years ago.
A decade.
I'm blessed.
Yeah, I'm blessed.
He told me, too.
He's like, you're going to blink.
Five years going to go by.
You're going to blink again.
you're going to be 10 years.
Blink again,
you're going to be like,
why the hell am I still doing that?
So that's what they said.
That's what he told me.
So how did it feel?
You got drafted.
You had to go,
this is what I always wanted to know.
You got to go.
Next morning you got to go.
Yeah, yeah.
Next morning.
What that's how?
Draft it.
You drafted number one.
Whatever I had the after party
from the draft at the Knicker.
And then next morning I was out.
We're about from a,
was it, Farmingdale?
left from Farmingdale straight to Minnesota.
You know, it's cold as fucking Minnesota.
You wouldn't know.
No, no, no, no.
There's no fluidity in Minnesota, boy, it's cold as fuck out.
Minus 27 some days.
This guy, Stefan Morberry, used to cry out there.
He wanted to get rich.
Steph, probably could have won chips out there.
He just got out of it.
He couldn't take.
He even was going to quit the league or, you know, he didn't want to be in Minnesota.
Minnesota got great people and great fans.
He wasn't used to it.
Sometimes they drive underground.
Sometimes it's so fucking cold or something.
Oh, like in Minnesota, like, for instance, downtown,
they got like skyways so you don't actually have to walk outside.
Or like for downtown, the streets under it is under the concrete,
it's hot water circulated to help with the icy bitch.
What do you have to do when you first get there?
Is it basically the meet, see the facility?
Right.
When you land, when I landed there.
Guy in the car, went straight down to Target Center,
but it was Lowe's and had your press conference
introducing yourself to the fans.
So it was, it's immediate.
It's right away.
I had a bad running with that.
They had me introduce Kemba and the other guy
he scored two points and shit.
The Knicks is like, we want you to introduce.
Welcome them to the Knicks.
I welcome them a motherfucker than they do shit.
We want you to introduce them.
Y'all, we got Kimber Walker.
We got, who was it,
4'8 or something of both of them
ain't do shit.
I'm sitting there like,
yo, we're so happy they're here.
Kimba, I love you, man.
Yo, Kimba, we love,
you don't do that.
Don't do that.
We just have them to...
You're supposed to represent.
Kemper, I did, though.
Both of them could score the ball, too, though.
Yeah.
They really scored.
He just was trashed state.
Whoa, there was a little...
He was banged up.
Kemper Walker.
Poor.
Yeah, well, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa.
Yeah, we got to make some shirts, you.
Yo!
Yo!
Kimball was hurt.
Yeah, yeah, he had some injuries.
He had some badgerment.
There's nothing better than him.
There's nothing better than watching him in Yukon on the Big East, man.
Kill, he killed.
He killed.
I remember.
I remember that?
Oh, my God, against Pittsburgh, too.
That was a hit.
That old run, though.
Yeah.
He was mad to be getting your step back last year.
That three point.
Whoa!
You said, whoa, whoa, I said, what the f?
I got a classic pick.
I put up with you and the spike right after that.
Oh, yes, yes.
It's in my house.
All right.
I'm trying to realize, Kay, go through your time.
It's in my house.
Go to your time for you.
It was in my house right now.
That's not ass spikes.
You can tweak out of that.
You got that fist in your house?
Yeah, I do, I do.
That was a legendary pick.
Yeah.
I definitely, it's so funny because I feel like rewatching.
that and you see me like in that
mode, just aggression and just
I was talking. I was talking
that was like you had a spring on
golf folks. You just
you burn that shit back. You threw that shit,
you dish, you ran to the fucking bitch.
You was like, yeah. I was like, oh my
God. Like I was
losing my mom.
Yeah, you know, Jayda,
because I love this basketball. I laugh.
I laugh because I was talking about it
actually before I just came to the podcast. I was
saying how, what the hell was
I think because before that was the turnaround fade away going out of bounds.
And I said, you take one bad shot to go compounded with a worse shot.
But for me in that moment, those felt like I was wide open.
The basket was this big.
Yeah, I felt that I had a good look at basketball.
You had to do that.
That was that kind of.
I mean, we needed to win, man.
We needed to win.
I was, I was never playing and lose that game.
That was hitting a pill.
So I was not going to allow that to happen.
Now he played all 82 games
The 2015-2016 season
Average in 18.3 points
10 and a half rebrand
Not a bad rookie year
Yeah, that's just that's damn great numbers
As a rookie
Yeah
What was it what was it like
And what was KD?
What kind of crazy shit was
KG was going crazy man
He's he was I was with him on the team
When he called Eric Gordon
trash.
I was with,
I was with,
I was on the team
on that one.
KG don't give a fuck.
Nah,
I love that.
We don't bring them up
enough as
one of the tough
guys in the NBA.
KG was tough.
Yeah.
I mean like,
he didn't give a fuck.
Nah.
You know what's cool
about him too?
It was like a bunch of rap
in the face.
No, I'm telling you.
Who he went out of the way?
I think,
I think they almost fought.
He was told him
some crazy shit.
KG told KG.
But KG.
Like, KG.
Casey, Kj.
He's his own.
Yeah.
Bottle patrol, right?
You motherfuckers.
He said, he didn't even, he know what I'm talking about.
He said, before you even remember, he's his own bottle patrol.
Don't even go down that way.
Don't let your mind remind you.
That was an ugly one, right?
Oh, my God.
KG's different, man.
He's different.
And you know what I was appreciating was like, his energy, you know, it went through the whole locker room,
just like the way he approached the game,
the way he, you know, he played with so much passion
and it was cool to be able to have something like that.
Who's that on the Knicks now?
Who's that on the Knicks now that got that?
Well, last year, I don't think y'all got them this year.
Last year I seen, you know how coached at the Rucker, you know what?
It takes a special qualification.
Hey, I want everyone on camera to say,
everyone behind the camera said,
shh.
Yeah.
Yo, listen, it's hard to win them chips at the Rucker,
but it takes a special.
It's almost a spiritual
To wake everybody up
And get everybody to win a championship
It takes it
I seen PJ Tucker trying that
Last year on the bench
Like let's go
Hey you know
He was that
Who's the guy on the Knicks now
Currently that
Like let's go
And I feel like
PJ was great for us last year
And like you said
You saw him contribute to us
You know
I think he's like a 20 years
in NBA
You know, I'm hoping that we get to see them in the NBA this year as well.
You know, us as a team haven't got a chance to get together, yeah?
So I'm...
Yeah, you know what I'm trying to say to see where the vibes are at.
So I think that right now, you know,
everyone's working on their game to bring their best version to the table
so that we can, you know, New York a chance guy.
That just got filled with a lot.
Oh, Gershaw?
Oh, my name is African.
He's not African.
He is African.
Listen.
Hell, I'll throw the flag.
We even pick a flag.
Just both of them.
Listen, he's from Africa.
We got to get you a list.
So, can you Google where he's really from?
Is he from Nigeria?
Ladies and gentlemen.
I just told you I love the guy.
I'm a fucking huge fan.
Can't love him.
You've been nowhere he's from.
He's not.
All right.
Can you, can you cut?
Oh, he's Dominican?
No, not the big Africa.
You didn't know that?
Four flags for that.
From the France?
He's Dominican.
You got another Dominican on the team.
Did you know that shit?
No, he didn't.
I thought he ain't from Africa.
You got the wrong guy.
No, he, yo.
Kershaw.
He's Dominican.
Oh, we got to get him a list.
Play that shit again.
He keeps describing people by the calling.
You got, my mail, in my mail, my mail, my mouth.
You know what I expected, man.
Right.
From you.
I'm just to tell you right now what you need to do.
I need all of these.
I think I think you, I'm not telling you what to do with your money, right?
but you should have like a foundation
to sum a bunch of Dominicans
every game and they're playing the
fucking music up on the stairs
and they're just going to cry
it should be the call at the town section
at least home games at the next
I expected that
I swear to God
like just me being a fan
you know
I grew up Washington night
so I know how you get down
so I thought you was going to have like
they was going to have a section up there
like, yo.
Just go.
He's the family immigrated to Congo.
Ha!
Hey!
All the fucking family's
immigrated from the Congo.
He's from the Congo.
Oh, he's Dominican.
Played it's all.
Yo, he said he was Dominican.
He's going with a joke, David.
I know the guys from Africa, bro.
Why are y'all trying to fake me out like that, man?
Everybody's from Africa.
Yes.
I fucking kiss.
This thing is crazy with this.
shit. Well, I love this guy. This is a great podcast.
How does Clarkson, you ask him shit, he just told you, they didn't see each other yet.
What are you thinking in your mind? But like, like, because scoring.
Thinking women, it's just going to say, pure score. I mean, for sure.
What they say, he needs to ball. You need some off the bench.
Yeah, you do. You do. You always need firepower and to expect, I think, as, as fans,
it's going to be,
as players,
you have to understand
you need firepower
because you never know
what's going to happen
in the year.
You know,
you never know
who's going to be healthy.
You never know
what's going to happen.
But if always,
you've got a backup plan
and you've got people
who are just as willing
to start as anybody,
I think that's what's going
to make a special.
You know,
you got to be able to have those people
like,
if you look at championship teams,
you know,
it's some of the times
it's the ones that win you
to championship
are not the starting five.
It's that guy on the bench,
Sean Livingston's the
Yeah,
you're saying you got a hell of a team
Over there, Andre.
You got a hell of a team in Minnesota.
Yeah.
There's rumors.
Hold on.
Let me get, because you,
let me tweak out.
You take the damn mind.
Listen to this.
Let's cut the bullshit.
You got long history with Tibbs from Minnesota.
Yeah.
All right over here.
What's going on?
I have, hey, I love when people ask me that.
And I said, boy, I only been here six months.
What you want me to say, but I just talk to tips.
He's good.
We had dinner and everything.
It's politics.
And they always see.
anything to play.
No, because in the music industry,
if something happens with the executive,
I don't have no fucking idea
that's going on. I've been here.
I was here six months. I have no. I was
with my man's. And Tim's is my man's, too.
Each is on bottle of patrol.
That's the answer.
Each is on bottle of patrol. It's like
Pete in the...
We knew your family. Listen, we just want
to know. We're very concerned.
You see us at his game. But not, but shout out to him, though.
You know, like, obviously, I was at Minnesota.
I got here, but, like, watching him just do so many...
I know what you mean I met him before.
Why are we doing this?
I definitely don't need to bring him up here.
Hello?
Yeah, I know.
That's a good one.
Tim's was in my house before I was in my house.
Huh?
You see?
I'm building...
Tim's was in your house.
What's you peeing by that?
Didn't.
Before you was in your house.
What the polter geises going on?
Worldwide West lives across the street from my house
As I was building my house
I didn't even live there yet
Fucking West gave Tim's a tour of my house
Yo Joe's gonna put the marble bar here
He's gonna just Tim say you better watch your neighbors
This man now took me in your house
Showed him the blueprints
Yo this is where we're gonna have pool parties
And this nah I mean yeah let me say
Coach Tibbs
Amazing job.
Amazing job with the Knicks.
Tips came to New York,
changed the culture.
Changed the whole.
Brought New York back to winning culture.
Yeah, I got to the Eastern Conference Finals last year.
And that's not just the players.
That's a testament to the coaching staff,
the work he put in.
And you got to give credit all around to those guys.
You know, they put the work in,
and they got us in a position
and gave us a chance to succeed.
So tips is special.
I think anyone who knows basketball knows he special.
I got nothing.
Shout out to Tims, man.
He don't smile with nobody
and I got pictures smiling with him.
Yeah, nah.
With the coach.
Nah, I'm having to love shit and watch him sit there and flip.
Talking to shit, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck.
He's walking back and forth cursing himself out in the fucking side.
I'm sitting like, yo, this is crazy, right?
I love, I love tips, man.
And, you know, like.
You have any experience for Coach Brown?
No, we ain't started.
I haven't.
Not yet.
Not yet.
So, but I'm excited to get to work, you know, basketball's fun.
You know, it's, I know I say work and I say job, but it really, it's, when you
having fun and you passionate, I think both, yeah, I know is legend.
Yeah, I haven't fun and passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff.
It doesn't feel like work.
It feels like a blessing.
You know, it's almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y'all now.
Yeah.
You know, and with no disrespect, a lot of major guys got injured.
Mm-hmm.
so you got Halliburton injured
the star of Indiana
Tatum
You got Tatum injured
The Star of Austin
Injured and traded
Boston turned
I'd never see no shit like this
They don't want to trade it
The whole team
Yeah
Yeah
For his audience is in Atlanta
Zingish
Orffred is out
Drew Hollford out
No Horford
No Horford's there
He's still there
He's still there
Drew Holiday
And Tadom's
And Tadem's
They didn't get rid of the big guy.
A Brazilian's in Atlanta.
No, the other thing.
Oh, Cornett?
Yeah.
They sent Cornett to this, right?
But they sent Cornett to the disparage or somewhere.
So?
I work for it.
Listen, he kissed.
What that happened?
I know, I know, but I didn't know if they signed him back.
You know, you already all.
Four days ago?
You call an African guy, Dominican.
You're off the right now.
He's going to the, he's going to the Golden State.
He's going to go to say it?
That's a major picture.
I told you all this, man.
I see him in the job during the NBA.
Oh, no, that's something.
In the NBA.
And he's solid, man.
He solid.
You know, I never understood why, like, players, young players don't abuse the older guys.
Like, like, like, like.
What?
Pause again.
Hey, we didn't ever have to.
You know, I mean, like, to me, I can't move like I moved in our 20 years old.
I don't care.
how talented
an older player is
your role
step you gotta stop
I can't move
like I moved
20 years ago
so like a guy
like you
with no disrespect
yeah
like I would think
you should just go
to the rack
on Al Hoffford
or they're just
impossible
genetically
huh
I got to step in
because I can't
get fined
none of that
there was
few
the playoffs
they were
fouling the hell out of you, dog.
I'm not, I'm used to that.
You, this last whole season,
I don't know, was,
they was, it was, they was mad
because he came to the city
and you had the whole city, but
you got, they missed a lot of,
you was getting pushed off, you know what I mean?
Yeah, you're a large human being
so you could take a regular fat.
You know!
He's extraordinary.
He's an NBA thing.
Oh, boy.
The cereal
Glezzan name
My yo
What?
Listen
He's jerked him
On mad
Paws now
Fuck
Yo yo yo
Yeah
Don't steal my
Yo yo yo
Yo
Listen
This year's
Reyes
He needs his
Call
Without no
Yo yo yo yo
Fabs
Send him to the line
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I was going to ask you a question, right?
And then he cut me off because he was sticking to the script, then he lost his mind.
too. The question is
you in Minnesota. I was
already hearing rumors that you
coming to the Knicks. So is I. Back when Donovan
Mitchell was coming to the Knicks. I already
heard Carl Anthony Tell. Right?
Yeah. And so you in Minnesota
and you, this is home, right?
At any point you're saying to yourself,
holy shit, I might be coming to the Knicks
and you're seeing what they're doing.
Are you saying like, yo, I'll fit
in. This week.
Crazy?
I would be lying if I said I didn't see the rumors and know that there could be
truth to them.
So the idea of coming back home playing for, it's well documented, my favorite team
growing up to watch.
My dad had a quick and early stint with the organization back in the Patrick Ewing
days.
Fine.
So it was kind of.
And, like, you know.
His dad's the coolest.
He sits.
Oh, man.
He loves, he loves y'all.
He's talking all the time.
Oh, he'd be there.
Like, yo, I already know he's going to be so happy when this podcast comes.
No, that's, we should have brought him here.
They should have walked him.
His dad was, his birthday was yesterday.
Oh.
So it's going to be fun.
Your dad's birthday was yesterday?
Yeah, it's a good birthday.
Rich Flay's birthday was yesterday, too.
Um, your girlfriend.
Yeah.
Very classy young lady.
Uh, it's fashion.
week and she posted
the, she got a clothing
right?
She's stepping on the building.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This shit's crazy.
Came through like Snoop and crushed the buildings.
Like Snoop crushing the buildings.
That's what I, that's what I came home to.
That's what my daughter and Lou.
You know, they're doing this fashion week shit.
Speaking of the fashion, he'd be having that.
He told that shit on too.
He said SGA is the most fashionable NBA player ever.
How did he say that?
And she ain't get fresh, but you made him
F, he made him of all time.
Who do you?
Or you think it's most fashionable?
Like, I, Dr. Jay.
Dr. Jay, come through with that shit on with cash men,
with the shit.
Most iconic pitch, I was there Joe Namif with their fur?
I'm going to lie to, I think for me,
basketball-wise or fashion-wise,
I think one of the most iconic photos
of seeing Alan Irisen's mom doing his cornrows on the bench.
That's five.
That was this cold.
We was there for all that.
Magic did it before Broadway, Joe,
with he with Michael Jackson and all of them.
And what about that flick?
Magic.
I was crazy.
That flick with them.
Joe, name and bawled this shit for magic.
He might have.
He might have.
He definitely did.
Flag in the back game.
Pass me the flag, man.
What you think, man?
Come on.
We did four podcasts in three days and shit.
We've been.
There he go.
The biggest shit.
You're what?
Because, you know, I'm very competitive.
Yeah.
So if I get it, I got into the podcast world to be number one.
You want to be number one.
You want to be the best.
The best.
I mean, but that's how y'all became legends.
That's what y'all do.
Yeah, I didn't stop at being good.
It was like, I want to be great.
I want to be all time.
That's, and we got a new job.
It's called podcast.
And, boy, we're giving them hell.
We've been having a good time up here, bro.
And now y'all
I take it over the podcast world
So shout out to y'all
I expect nothing less from y'all
Let's keep it on the court
You consider yourself
The best big man
Three-point shooter ever
You won the one
You actually won the three-pointed
Do you?
Yes
No for sure without a doubt
You know I went on Mello show
Yeah
And said you're the greatest
Offensive big man
In the league of this time
And I caught a lot of
Like I was like arguing with
the whole set.
Yeah.
And, you know,
the Joker's dead nice.
He's real.
What do you think about the Joker?
Like, when you look at his style of play,
what makes him great and different?
Hall of Fame touch around the basket,
being able to right hand hook,
left hand hook off the backboard.
Slows the game.
Slows the game down.
You know, he played,
you know, I feel like,
I know,
not know basketball.
So, like, you know,
his ability to control pace.
he controls the team's pace
you know john wall
what made him great
when he became an all-star
was his ability
to change pace
when he stopped going
150 miles per hour
and he was going to go 150 to go to 20 miles
to go to 120 to go to eight you know
I'm trying so changing a pace
joker just
he got a hall of fame touch
he's extremely smart
his IQs through the roof he's able to pass
he's able to control the pace
the offensive scheme
works with his his greatest strengths
and he has teammates that believe in him.
He has a coaching staff that believes in the organization
that believes in him.
They put him in a position to succeed
and he deserves that kind of respect
because he put the work in.
He's shown the world that he could do this
on a nightly basis.
Man, shout out to Joker, man.
I mean, he rightfully got those MVPs.
He deserves him.
You know what you?
I went to one game
and I watched you at least, at least.
I want to exaggerate.
But I think the numbers I counted was like 10 different moves.
This, that way, the fade of it, this, that, this.
You got somebody like, what's my man, Don Chavent, he'd do the same.
Hey, he's great at it.
Yeah, yeah.
But he got that one move, right?
Mello had that one fadeaway.
That step.
But Mello had a triple threat.
I was one of the best ever.
No, no, no, no.
But he really had that.
That step.
No, it's lethal.
That's what I'm saying.
But I watched this man, the reason why I made that statement on Mello is,
I've been watching basketball a long time.
I never seen nobody have that variety of offense as a big man as you.
I appreciate that.
So I'm sitting on the sideline with Tracy Morgan.
You know, he's a bug out.
He's a threat.
Tracy's been talking to me about the Knicks for how long.
No, that boy's a tweaker free.
We need Tracy Morgan on here because the man's a trick.
I said what Irish Spears said he looked like a, oh, yo, yo, he's his own bottom of drone.
Yo, he said so, but I seen you bought so many moves that I was just like,
yo, this guy's like, really is unstoppable because people always got one move, maybe two moves.
Yeah.
You got so many different, bad, you got a bag.
I'm a reactive player.
I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks.
Like I said, coming to New York, playing in a record park, gauchos.
You play with older kids.
you're always like, you're 15, you're playing you, you're playing, I was even younger
to that, I was playing U-16, you're 17, you know.
My dad and I always believed, you know, if you want to be the best, you've got to go against
the best.
And when I was younger, never except being good.
Like, yeah, I always wanted to chase greatness.
So, you know, I wanted the best competition I could find in Tri-State, and I wanted to test my
skills every single weekend.
Who you saw played?
You ever watched like a Kobe game or something like that?
Like me, we used to watch wrestling.
And have the rest of them with closed lines.
Yeah, no, for sure.
I grew up in that air.
Attitude air and all, yeah.
Would you doing that like going out in the snow?
Kobe fade away?
Like, who was a player that you was?
You know, I say, you know, people, I was having this conversation the other day too.
I love that.
I get to talk about my life a little bit.
But I was having this conversation, funny enough, with my girl.
And I was saying, you know, sometimes in life you get lucky.
Sometimes it's Godgiver.
and sometimes you just work so hard
that you just garner that skill
and for some fortunate people
they get all three
and they be able to have that mindset
God and luck on their side
and I was telling her I said for me
I think I really had
in a way all three coincided with my career
but I really believe that
it was really two things the two that I got
really that I had in my possession was luck
and I worked so hard to be this good
and find a way to be great at my craft
that I just had no option
other than the plan A is plan A
go for a teen NBA player.
But my luck came from my father
because my father was a high school coach
and one of the hardest things to do
when you're young and you're broke is to have a gym.
And my dad being a high school coach,
I had keys to a hardwood.
floor that was great, not like a hardwood floor that was like, okay. I'm talking about a really good
hardwood floor playing basketball. So I had somewhere to work on my craft. And I had a father
that also was athletic and agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he was able to rebound
for me and also understand what I truly needed to do. And for me, with the work aspect, you know,
I had to show up. You know, as a young kid, too, I had to dedicate my childhood, my whole childhood.
Like all the things other kids got to do and stuff and experience,
I ain't get that chance because I was in the gym and I was working.
Sacrifice, you know, and I was willing to do that.
And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that, like, you know,
maybe I want to go to that, you know, that party, obviously younger, like, party at whatever.
Maybe try to get you don't want to go to the park more, hang out with my friends.
I was, you know, I was in the generation and still, you didn't know someone was home unless the bike was in front.
You know, so I was still in that generation.
And so I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports and basketball and baseball is my love of basketball.
And to have a horrible core, I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on the competition.
And it allowed me to work on all these moves.
And I was riding back to the library, looking at getting the VHS is, putting it, the VHS in and watching, you know, the great play, Hakeem Elijah won, getting to see, you know, KG, getting to see Sam Perkins for me.
You know, I was looking back in the day, Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistol P.
And I like just Magic Johnson, of course.
So it was like one of those things where I dedicate my childhood to study in the game, you know, being part of the culture.
I'm very similar.
I'm not trying to put myself on your level.
But like this guy was born a rapper.
Look, I don't think, if you ain't rap, what you was going to do?
I mean, one of the best lyric says you ever heard.
What are you going to do?
Say him, Eminem, J.Z.
pun, these guys was born
with this shit. Right? I had to
practice. Shout out to pun, too.
I would have been in pharmaceutical.
Rest and peace, but I had to practice
and then it was a time
where we was the hardest dudes in the world.
I mean, the hottest dudes in the world.
I mean, I was here. I was the one. My mom would tell me
go get the radio, put the radio on.
You see what I'm saying? And we, and pun
who I signed, he was my
student, I brought him in the game.
He taught me how to rap better.
And it's summertime, and they pull
up in the benzers in the trucks and they're like,
yo, it's pop and beat.
Yo, over here, this, this, that.
Pump, be like, fuck that.
We got to write.
Yeah.
You got to work on your shit.
And it's summertime, 90-something degrees.
And they're pulling up, yo, we're going to pull up,
we're going to pull up, orchard beach.
Yo, it's on out there, this.
And I shit ringing number one on the radio.
And Pum was like, nah, fuck that.
We're going to stay in here.
You got to get better, bro.
You got to get nice.
You got to get this and this and that.
And that was a big, yo.
So many summers are sacrificed, you know,
instead of going outside and joining, like, when you get a hit, right?
This is the difference between maybe basketball and rap.
Like, when you get a hit, everybody's praying for it.
Yeah.
You get a hit, you go get the back.
You're even promoting that hit until it becomes a hit.
Yeah.
And then once it's a hit, you go get the back.
You can't stand in your name.
We can't go to diaper and be like,
mean back and watch the crowd.
It don't work like that.
You're busy.
going to get the check, performing all over.
We don't get, same with you.
You don't get that rush.
You don't get to stay in there.
You can't go to yon because it'd be like, yeah,
you're too busy running around the world.
You know what I'm saying?
I was talking to my girl yesterday about this
because, you know, shout out to her again.
She had her New York Fashion Week event here in New York
at the Knickerbocker.
That photo shoot was flying.
Yeah, nah, I'm super proud of her all the time.
And I was telling her, I'm proud of her.
And I told her she had her event early in a day.
I went to work
I took care of business
went to the event
and I told her
I said I want you to enjoy today
enjoy the wins
because the wins are short-lived
and the losses
they last for a long time
and I was telling her
and she was like
what you mean
I was like
let's put her
just an example
for me in my life
we beat Boston
New York's going crazy
the excitement
the edge of the roof
never been like that
in 25 years
and
police was letting them climb
the horse
man police was trying
to do their job
They said,
Don't let's jump the job.
Let's hear of people
We want to be fans too.
Celebrating.
And they're not wrong.
New York's not wrong.
25 years.
You're supposed to have these celebrations.
You're supposed to, you know,
yearn for these moments.
No,
hell, no.
Go.
Go have fun.
This is the moment.
This is what we work for.
We work so the fans can have these moments.
That shit was like a dream country.
Yeah, but you know, anybody,
it's the world against New York.
So they was.
So let New York have a moment of celebration.
They deserve it, man.
And I was,
when I was going back
to the point we're saying that when we won,
you know, of course, it was late night when we won, obviously.
So you have that night, you know, the team got together documented.
We went out celebrated as a team with each other,
but, you know, you got four hours.
We celebrate great job.
But tomorrow is back to work.
The win is four hours lived.
Tomorrow's past the work.
That's the crazy part of the playoff.
You know what I'm trying to say?
So it's four hours.
I was in Dubai when you're lost.
That shit was day.
So here we go.
To that point,
four hours we got to celebrate that when we write back to work tomorrow.
Indiana playbook, you know, Tiv's is a, you know, he studies, you know, he's like that.
So we get these books, these, they write this tall, they talk about, yo, you know, this play, that play, this play, that play.
We're getting quiz and stuff.
So it's full hours.
You write back to the next, to the next job.
I said, but when we lost in Indiana, drag it, six months.
now we wait until September 22nd
to go get back together
to try to remedy the mistake.
You know, so I was telling her
enjoy these moments and these wins
because the wins are short-lived
and the losses last a long time.
I mean, we're in New York Knicks.
Everyone is a championship.
Every game is a championship.
Especially if you're playing at the Garden.
Yeah.
Because everybody, we just, John Wall, everybody,
you know how many NBA players
I went to their house and they got the post up
when they dropped 46 against the kids?
the Knicks for it.
I'm like, yo, you couldn't show the shit against Colby.
LeVron, why I got to be the Knicks that you scored 50 on and this and this and that?
The Garden brings a different energy.
World and most famous arena.
Literally.
And you're walking in there, even if it's a bullshit game.
You're walking in Madison Square gone.
What that feel like walking in Maddo?
Man, you, there ain't no bullshit games in NBA.
Everyone's, you need every win, you know.
No, I agree.
But I'm just saying what it feel like to you, do you ever go there extra?
you're early and just look at all the time be like you all the time i'm there early every game i'm
there games at 7 30 i'm there full clock i'm lifting i'm on the court i'm i remember i was there
so early in the playoffs you was doing sound check for you remember i came out i was listening i just
sad just to just see the performance yeah as i was like in the game i'm too locked in i'm not
even going to be one here nothing else but basketball so like every day i show up at the garden
and I know there probably is going to be one kid,
at least one kid, one family,
one adult that spent their last money they got
to themselves to go to a next game
and they want to see their favorite players play.
I want to show up every night and play.
You know, because I know that there's someone there
that put extra hours at their job in
to spend their hard work money
to go and watch us play, watch me play,
and it could be nothing more disappointed
than me not playing.
I see you doing a lot in the community, a lot of business ventures.
How important is it to give back?
It's very important.
I mean, this is, like you said, it's God gave me the gift.
And as soon as I discredit the gift, it'll take it away.
So I got to, you know, pay forward.
And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work over there for the kids and everyone.
Getting down with the A-Rod?
You've been to that joint?
No, I have not.
The Ammaeer?
No, I have not.
God.
What is that?
What is that?
Yo, I don't want to blow it out.
Hey, y'all, y'all.
It's a vacation spot.
It's something on Mingo.
I know about that.
That shit looked like Fiji Island.
I went there for Christmas for my family.
It is beyond beautiful.
Like, it's like it's no way you thought on this side of the earth.
There's something that beautiful.
And I'm talking about Turks, this, that what, you name them.
There's nothing that looks like that.
Everybody goes to something to Mingo on the,
other side. Well, your man,
A. Rod, I think he invested like
$10 billion or something. Yeah.
To make some cribs over there
something. That, what happened?
No, I'm too. No,
I'm exaggeration.
Yo, how much did he...
How much... Google? Google
two-time. Damn.
The guy taking notes is fucking
two-time felon. Yo,
Gip...
A-Rod, how much money invested
in Santo Domingo, the new
resort? A billion
dollar...
$9 a dollar. Now, that's fat.
Oh, dude.
It's fat joe, right?
10 billion, one billion, what's the difference?
10 billion, one billion, what you want me to do, right?
But I'm painting the picture.
You need to get with that.
I promise you that's going to be a success out there.
I need, I mean, I got you.
I'm not going to worry about that.
I'm telling you what you're just like.
We're saying that he's saying that he's investing.
Now, yeah.
I'm telling you what's going to win.
That is going to win.
Yeah.
That is going to win.
The place is
unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
Phenomenal, yeah.
Three hours away, when you go there,
you're going to be like,
yo, this shit is great,
but they cost money to go in there.
What I will say, though, is for me,
I'm not looking to make money in D.R.
I'm looking to give money to D.R.
Okay.
You know.
I'm trying to nurture the soil that's there.
I don't want to take anything from the soil.
You want to take anything from our people.
I want to give to our people.
I want to give them the chance to have the reason.
That's people in the world.
There's nothing like Dominicans.
The most fun, most given, best food.
My mail, my mail, and my name, blah, you know, I got an Italian friend, Stevie Matarana,
one of the best chefs in the world.
He always goes, yo, cuss, who don't want to be Italian?
I'm ready to say, yo, yo, you, popitos, people don't want to be Dominican.
I just, for me, God has given me the chance, and I always say, like, I appreciate the gift.
this game and game of basketball
and the life and luck I talked about earlier
that I had. But money's not
fulfilling to me anymore.
When I was younger, it was always a chase
of like every young artist who bring up
the bag, the money falling out.
Like, I'm not fulfilled by that.
You know, I don't need that anymore.
I'm fulfilled by
in New York, I always talk about it.
It's the greatest currency you can get in New York.
It's respect.
And that's all I look for these days is just respect.
I know when that plane come back to New York
because, you know, I live in Miami and New York.
When I go to Miami, I'm like, come on, everybody,
when you do that, come.
That's what I'm thinking when that plane going down.
But when I come in here, and the shit coming down,
I'm hearing thoon-toon, there's a wall going out and outside.
Nobody's safe from.
You're looking at it just feel like the whole New York's a project building.
You're looking out the plane, that shit going down.
You're like, it's a different type of Teflon.
you gotta have
but when you big
when the kids
got your post in
Coney Island
in Bay Ridge
and youngest
in the Bronx
in the Bronx
in the Harlem
in the Lower East Side
and Staten Island
and they're all screaming
your name
this is
if you want to get popping
this is where you want
to make up
come on
thinking about kids
like you said
family
making ends meet
you know
people in a 200
square foot apartment,
500 square foot apartment,
and they're willing to dedicate
some of their wall space
to have you on the wall.
The love is...
That's respect.
The love is unreal,
and I argue with everybody.
Shout out to my man.
Who he's at first gate.
I argue with all the barbers,
everybody.
And Christmas game.
I was arguing for you.
Yeah.
Rich, where's Rich player?
His barber was dumb type
they traded Randall.
I was like, yo, call Anthony,
and I love Randall.
Yeah.
Tough guy.
I love him and family.
Salute them.
But I was super-
excited and I start arguing with the whole barbershop and I'm like yo bro
and then when we went to the final was I'll FaceTime and I was like what's up
oh yo you kind of was right this this I told you I was right what do
are we going to see a championship in New York City call that's the plan
that's the plan yeah I ain't come here that's it that's what the mission is set out
it can be great all time you got you got to be you know striving for greatness every day
Because a lot of guys try to get to close with no cigar.
A lot of guys is cool with being number two.
A lot of guys, you telling me that the DNA and the mindset of the New York Knicks,
when they're behind the scenes and y'all together, they're saying,
yo, we're going to win this championship?
I mean, did not last year not prove that?
No, no.
You know what I'm trying to say, down 20 both times, game one and game two in Boston.
You know what I'm trying to say?
We never thought the game was over.
I know everyone was ready at the house turning their TV to other channels,
watching other games.
I don't know what they was watching.
The game was going.
So, you know, I'm trying to say.
Yeah, we, ah, the cane is coming, baby.
The first podcast I came in playing that shit from, what was that?
That movie Money Train, the Train is coming, baby.
Yeah.
He was like, yo, what's that?
I was like, yo, the trade's coming.
Yeah, I just, you just, you can't let any thing cloud your mind of the vision you got.
And there ain't been the time we ain't walk in there with.
I have a championship standards, you know.
And obviously last year we came up short.
He coming back.
But 25 years in the making just to get to that point.
And now, you know, we've got to work even harder to get to the next step.
What day is the Cleveland?
September 22nd.
No, no, no, no, October 22nd.
With that being said, ladies and gentlemen,
this ain't that.
And that ain't this.
It's cracking kiss.
Make some noise for our guests.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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