Joe and Jada - Keith Sweat talks state of modern R&B, Afrobeats explosion & his catalog of classics

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by the incomparable Keith Sweat. The R&B legend talks to Joe and Jada about the state of the genre he helped pioneer, the wild story of the time he walked into Bad ...Boy and cleaned out Jada's pockets at the gambling table, how he feels about getting shouted out by Drake and scores of other rappers in their lyrics, why he thinks Afrobeats is "the new R&B," and his R&B Lovers Tour with Joe, Dru Hill, Ginuwine, and more. He also plays one of his new hits, "Working II" featuring Lil Wayne and Qing Madi. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Lose control. Speak slow for them. Talk slow to them, man. Let me get you come on. Let me lick you up and down. Do you say and stop? Oh, go. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Joe Crack the Dawn, A.K. Colonel Avert. Rest in peace to my big brother. You know what it is your boy Jada Kiss. You know what it is the Joe and Jada show.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Every show legendary. Every show iconic. I can't guarantee your safety. When we talk about today's guests, a lot of things come to mind. Timeless. Classics.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Somebody that grind it from the bottom. My top five dead or alive. You know that. Turns nothing into something into a lot of something into a plethora of success. Biggest in the motherfucking game. Songwriter.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Genius. Businessman. Ability to break groups. Smarter than everybody. One of the flies niggas ever in the world. That's fucking right. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, make some noise for our guest.
Starting point is 00:03:46 They keep sweat. What's up, what up, what up, baby. What up? What's up, brother? How you doing, baby? Long time, no sleep, man. Yeah, you know, you know. You know how we used to do it.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's a history. We're going to get into there, yeah. Now, I want to hear that all frit. Like, you were telling me a story behind it. Before we even go corporate style, young kids, I'm in the studio, bad boy, they're working on a Lavert sweat and Gil out. So,
Starting point is 00:04:18 G. I was pinning some bars, as I was telling you earlier. You know what I mean? For somebody, a dice game breaks out. My brother right here. You know that go,
Starting point is 00:04:28 Jeff and Gerald got the bank. Now, every, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll give me some of this R&B money the night, baby. If I, the last thing I, if I don't finish the soul, I'm going home with some rat.
Starting point is 00:04:41 They sleep on R&B. They think you on B. You might be. They got that shit on silk linen, they end the whole student, everybody. Bunny rabbits. Rabbit is the whole junior mafia.
Starting point is 00:04:55 We don't like. Your sweat, you even feel sorry for these guys you took all their money? That's that Harlem shit, huh? I took their money as they year. I talked to you out later. That's a fact. It is.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I never forget it, dog. You can't tell me I was going to go home. I didn't even care if I feel. Minutes the sessions. I got some money from Gerald and Keith today. Sike, they aired me. I'm talking about to the bones gristle, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 The whole studio, though. We cleaned the damn whole stew out. So you've been a gambler your whole life? You was always nice to shoot dice. Yeah, I'm good at that. You know, I used to tell, when I used to go on tour and go to the casinos, I used to tell everybody better on me. Everybody made money.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Who used to bed? against. Like, other R&B singers at the tour or just at that casino? I'm good at Crap Table, casino. Any of that I'm good.
Starting point is 00:05:55 That's crazy. I remember when I wasn't talking to JZ or O.G. Juan, I go down to Atlantic City with Chris Gotti. And you know, I don't gamble for nothing. He does. I caught beginners.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I was rolling for like an hour straight. It was like seven. We just kept winning. That boy, Juan, couldn't bet. He's on the other table. He looks sick like a puck. He's like, damn, this dude got the roll of a lifetime. I mean, I was literally on there for like an hour. That's it. One thing is crazy about the casino. When you win, they don't want to give you your money, huh? They don't want to give you your money. They want to comp. Listen, they want to cop their money. I had the biggest rooms than ever at the Mandalay Bay because they would
Starting point is 00:06:39 comp, comp, comp, comp. They fucked up with me. One time they cop me, the biggest suite is the only time my grandmother ever left the Bronx. She never left the block in like 80-something years. I gas said to go to Atlantic City with me. She's looking out the window like his marshes. Like she couldn't believe it was so beautiful. She never been in the shit. So we in there, them they were sending me lobster, steaks, all type of shit.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I don't know nobody. They kept coming up to the room. You ready to go downstairs? Mr. Joe. I was like, no, chilling. We eat lobsters, we champagne, everything. They were like, Mr. Joe, you ready to come down. I was like, man, I might have played a couple of slots on the niggas and broke out.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Like, they got, they lost with me. I'm telling you that. That's like an all you can eat buffet. They lost. Sweat, man. Let me tell you something. You're one of my idols. You're one of my biggest inspirations.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You know, I'm thinking driving down here, well, passenger down here in Mayer's car. And I'm just thinking, like, I remember when I fell in love with you. your music, I never even thought I would meet you in my life. Like, just to meet you. You know what I'm saying? And the fact that we're friends, you know, is surreal to me. Who's like that for you? Like, you know, I love Keith's where I bring you to every party. I think, you know, who's like that for you that was out before you that you can't believe you became cool with or you love like that? I was a few people, J.G.,
Starting point is 00:08:13 J.G., Jani Gill, you know, when I met Gerald, you know what I'm saying? It was like Eddie Lavert when I met them. Eddie Lavert. You know, I grew up listening, you know, Cassanova was one in our joints. You know, so I ain't ever been friends. You know, that's my all of them shit. That's my all of shit right here. You got the words.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah. So, so when I, you know, when I first came out, like, everybody used to go to the holiday they, you know, journey full. Root 4. In the Root 4. So, you know, that's why you spent a lot of time when I had to hear reggae. God damn.
Starting point is 00:08:51 That much... You know, because, you know, you take the girl... You take the girl on the Route 4. So that's how I met LaVird, not Mark. I met Mark. You met him at Route 4? Yeah, at the holiday end, that holiday in, they used to be a Route 4, right?
Starting point is 00:09:05 I need a new one, by the way. Everybody used to go that one back in the day. You know, I was saying? It's like, you know, right off the turn, right? Right there. So that's why I met Mark. They were standing there and they had a show at Del Apollo. And I went to the machine
Starting point is 00:09:17 because I came out through and went to the snack machine. It would get a little sudden. And I said, oh, man. That was what, I wanted had just dropped. It just had came out. I said, oh, man, damn, you Mark from the Verc. Yeah, so yeah. And he said, you know, Mark had the dark shades on.
Starting point is 00:09:33 You know how Mark was. He had got dark shades on. He said, yeah, I'm Keith Sweat. He said, Keith Sweat. He said, Keith Sweat out, that name's something for me. Yeah, I got the little record I called I Warner. He said, oh shit, that's Joe Favorite record. We got a show at
Starting point is 00:09:45 the Apollo tonight with the Whispers. He said, you should come by. So I came by. That was my first time meeting, Jell and, you know, Sean and all of them. So, you know what I'm saying? And then once we met each other, we became the best of friends. We became like brothers and, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:02 because I never thought, you know, I was big friends or the old Jays and the verse or used to go to Cleveland all the time and stay at the house and everything. So for them, that was Johnny and him was like, that's why I put the LSG thing together because they were all my, or was my two favorites. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Wow, I didn't know that, but Johnny killed. I was going to Apollo, though, for you, when you say you went and pulled up on them after Apollo for me, when I think of the Apollo, I'm not sure if I turned. I was even turning 11, I was even 12 or 13. And I'm like, for my birthday, I don't know what I asked for, for that particular birthday. But you ended up at the Apollo.
Starting point is 00:10:45 My mom and my dad, for you suckies that didn't grow up with two parents and you think it's a bad thing. They took me to the Apollo. Is you, heavy deep, and LL. It was the best show model. I'm like, what I'm going to do with a concert?
Starting point is 00:11:03 My mom's right here, my father's right here. This shit was amazing, dog. You killed, is left a lifetime. memory on me for ever. Just sweat L L L and L. The Apollo shit was incredible. I would never forget it. They ripped me.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, that was my first. It was crazy because my first tour was with Heavy Diener Boy, Salt and Pepper and myself. That was my first tour. You know, shout out to Salt and Pepper. They just won the award in the Hall of Fame. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. I was so proud of them. You know, let me tell you something. I did some shows with Salt and Pepper But in the women, it's 99. It definitely ain't Fat Joe fans at that show because the women is 99% come out for, I mean, there is no men. And the whole audience is just women.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Three guys one up in there, the here flows up. You know what I'm saying? So Salt and Pepper, man, I'm so proud of them. We love them, man. And, you know, Heavy Dee, that's another one of my idols. You know, I got to be real cool. We have Heaven come to Miami and hang out with us. I remember the first time I met him
Starting point is 00:12:10 the same situation like a Labert I'm at Tavenan on the green they were throwing them ill parties and I'm using the restroom and the door opened and somebody going you gotta flow Joe I turned around the fucking heavy D
Starting point is 00:12:25 almost pissed on myself I couldn't fucking believe it I was like yo Evans man my fucking I do man he walked in and we got cool and we went to eat after that and I was just like yo heavy D
Starting point is 00:12:38 Like to me, that was like... That was that era, man. That was the best error. You know, we had Mike Epps on here, and Mike Epps gave... I told him, what's your top five comedians? He didn't mention Dave Chappelle. His excuse for not mentioning it was right on. Because he says, you know, me and Chappelle the same era.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I got to mention Richard Pryor. I got to mention the old school guys that was before us who inspired us. That's how I feel. I can see here and say, JZ, but we are for the same error. When they asked me, I got to say LL, KRS, you know, that's that era before us.
Starting point is 00:13:16 These are guys we used to look at what we didn't even think we would ever be a rapper or be successful. So, you know, when I'm at Heavy D, man, I used to try to dance like Heavy D. I still try to dress like Heavy D. Today I'm Gerald LaVeur, though, rest of the people. As Lee. I heard some stories about Gerald O'Rour.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He had the ladies, man. Gerald Lerner, girl, you know, There ain't nothing I won't do for you. The guys ain't giving it up like that no more. Like, they're not singing to the women like... I don't know you feel about the state of R&B. Or is it even a state? I feel like they're trying to do away with the kind of music
Starting point is 00:13:56 we was raised and grew up on the texture of it. Like, what I said about R&B now is some of the R&B artists, they want to rap. They want to be rappers. Because, you know, my attitude is R&B is supposed to be full play. Like when you're breaking up, making up with your girl, you want to play something fly. You know, because if you are going to scream, I'm going to, fuck you. Then you put an R&B record on.
Starting point is 00:14:23 The R&B record saying the same thing. You don't add more confusion. The R&B record cursing that all to y'all to you, do you know what I'm saying? So the R&B record is supposed to calm you down. Listen, baby. I can't say what I want to say to you. So I'm going to let this record say it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:39 So we need to calm this shit down, have a real conversation. Because if you, it's, I'm going to fuck you and hit me over the head and the R.B. records talk about all that. You're like, yo, let's get, you want, it's a fight. It's still a fight. Let me tell you something. This shit got out of head about two years ago. So I'm used to listening to LL doing it and doing it well.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Doing, you know, the guy and girl, you know, I need love or you're all sure. I need you, every time. They start to fuck me, nigga, piss the with me while I'm fucked with the dick, like a glowrilla
Starting point is 00:15:15 and a money bag or something. Like, they started going, like, I'm like, what the fuck? It's going on, pissing with me and choke me, nigger and spit in my face. When you this,
Starting point is 00:15:24 this, I hold your dick. I'm like, I hold your dick while you pee. I'm like, yo, this shit out of control. Like,
Starting point is 00:15:31 this ain't doing it well. This ain't not this shit. I'm like, yo, this is the new. This is. The new Bonnie and Clyde? No, no, I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You know, this ain't gonna... I can't do that because he's right. No, I'm right. It's a better way to describe it. Just with me, nigga, you took me. I'm like, you know. But that's what they said. I am confused.
Starting point is 00:15:59 You know the emoji, your head blow? I'm like, yo, this is crazy. And then they're sampling my shit. You turned into that, kiss. And they're sampling my shit to say the same shit on my shit. I'm like, oh, my shit wasn't meant to be that. That's a fact, man. Don't do that to that classic material.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Let me tell you something. Keith Sweat and Jeter Kiss, I've noticed right now they got something in common. They got like the same humor. I said, yeah, no problem. Joe, send it over because there's people were trying to front, but I knew once I get Keith on the phone. Was it you I was talking to? He was like, well, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I said, okay, don't worry, you'll get a phone call. Fucking Keith Sweat. Call that motherfucking two minutes. I'm like, that's your crap. We cleared it. He said, send me this song, Joe. I sent it to him. Goddamn, you jacked my own fucking song, big.
Starting point is 00:16:51 You're singing every word of mine, Joe. This is going to cost you right here. I said, yo, sweat, whatever the fuck you want. You got it, baby. But, because we had the best of the best coming on this show. That was one of the greatest answers to any question. I have asked where you say, yo, the R&B is the foreplay,
Starting point is 00:17:13 you know, you can't, everything can be, fuck you just. He assessed it and described that. That's perfect. I was the perfect sweat, man. Let me tell you something. But you're my theme song, man, for my life. That nobody. I used to draw because I was scared to fly.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And you know, when you meet your wife for the first time and you get that song, we have everybody dizzy in the Lexus. We keep playing nobody 10,000 times from fucking the Bronx to Miami.
Starting point is 00:17:46 24-hour drive. Nobody, baby. Is that the biggest song you ever put out or you got a bigger one? Then, uh, make it less and nobody
Starting point is 00:17:57 are the biggest, you know, maybe Twisted, nobody, make a last. The Mega Las album. Twisted is dead. It is my favorite.
Starting point is 00:18:06 All of those shit is forever. Oh, no. No, I did the 20th anniversary. You was there lean back. And he could have did whatever. I said, nah, Keith. I wanted him to come out the side and go, Girl, I've been thinking about you all day.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Oh, that shit, crazy. The way you started that record, girl, like, how do you get that shit right on time? They didn't have pro two. He came in lit. It was perfect. They had no pro twos. That's the start, girl.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I mean, that's your take off immediately. Genius is an understatement. Facts. Let's not even talk about Key Sweat. Let's talk about the songs you wrote because people don't really understand all the hit records you've written for everybody else. And you've got to be very unselfish
Starting point is 00:18:57 to give other artists smash hit records. Yeah, I wrote Freak Me. Freak me, baby. Lose control When me and you up and down Let them stop Keep tell them a couple boys No no but you gotta sit and give them a little bar
Starting point is 00:19:13 If you keep Because some of these people They slow for them Talk slow to them Man, let me get a couple of them Let me lick you up and down To you say you stop Boom
Starting point is 00:19:27 Boom Boom Boom Bove What else you Freak me baby He wrote match Just got paid
Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh my God Just got paid Friday night Who that Johnny Kemp Right Johnny Kemp I wrote that with Teddy Let's chill
Starting point is 00:19:46 I wrote with Teddy And Bernard Dash Let's chill I know that Because somebody said They cleared They had to stop by Keep Sweat Office
Starting point is 00:19:55 I knew he wrote Less shit Let's chill Wow Let's chill Like Immature Extra Extra
Starting point is 00:20:03 Read all about it Oh day I wrote a lot. No, you... LSD. Half of the LSD album. Yeah, half of the LSD album.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I wrote all my hits. You know what I'm saying? So... Yeah, how? All right. No, no, no. It's very, very important. I wrote Drew.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I wrote on Drew Hill first album. What you wrote from Drew with? I shared my world. Oh, shit. Fendi very underestimated Jewelier. They got bomb classics. I think Cisco dancing and they're doing all that shit, you know, throwing them off for the, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Like, you know, I'm, shout out the Jew Hill, Jagged Edge. I'm going Jagged Edge because, you know, they throwing the Army shit on and the furs. And, yeah, every guy got to dance and shit, you know. Shout out the Jew. You know, you go to Keith Sweat. Shout out of the Jagged Edge.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I remember going to fucking. The key sweatshaw, I'm damn near upper deck. You had the bed in the middle of all. Madison Square Garden. Yeah, the bed came up on, I give all my love to you. I give all my love to you, y'all. Yeah, I used to walk up to the top and get on the bed, the bed go down like this.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, that was on the triple thread to him. That was an amazing. He was doing shit like that. How many years ago was that? Man, that's just weird. years ago. This fucking key sweat. Key sweat,
Starting point is 00:21:36 you know where I want to go? They get mad at me, right? I'm 55. I don't give a fuck. I'll show my age. I don't give a fuck. I go to Stephanie Mills show. I go to the Whisper Show.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I go. So Jimmy Jam, another fucking phenom songwriter. The man doing some shit. I'm like, yo, I'm listening to the radio. They said the 15 wine, celery shit.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I said, my tickets now. I'm going to see Jimmy Jam. He's going to talk about all the songs he wrote. And you know, my favorite band of all time. It's SOS band. Okay. Yeah. I recently found out Jimmy Jam rolled all that
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Starting point is 00:28:01 I heard some stories about you behind the city. Is it you or is it? No, no, it's Keith Sweat. You're a good businessman, obviously, if he got you. But it's key sweat. Did you go through a lot of bullshit early to learn, you know, to get shit tightened up and... I think he was smart. They were being very stern or you came in.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I went through a little bullshit. Not everybody. Not, not, not, not what everybody... Not raping you records. Nah, no. I wouldn't... Nah, I wouldn't... I can't throw the flag.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yo, we had a meeting the other day. He said... He went through that. Jada kiss was like... This feels like all over again. I said, this guy's traumatized. This guy, 30 years later, they did some shit to these dudes. I was like, yo, Jada, calm down.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Calm down. I thought the real gangsters. This ain't that and that ain't this. I thought the real gangsters kill you, rob, you all that. I never knew they had contract gangsters. I've never got robbed. John Gotties of contracts. Tons of jury, whatever you want to name, mountains of money.
Starting point is 00:29:07 What's his name? What a nigga pull out of gun on me? What's that guy? What's the guy? The lawyers are robbing down. They told you what? Is his name? Jelly Bing.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Oh, he robbed me for like 20 million. Yeah. He came to me on the Latino shit. Yo, we Latino. I'm going to watch your back, yo. Sign your publishing. I'll take care of you. I've discovered Madonna out there.
Starting point is 00:29:31 That nigga, raping you records. He robbed me for like 15 years. You know how I found out. I did a soundtrack for, movie and to me at the time it was big money. I was like, yo, I need $150,000. You know, I'm on fire. I'm thinking I can't, you know, I come
Starting point is 00:29:46 for $500 a show. Right. I'm getting them for $150. They said, hold up. You know, you're publishing. He wants $3.50. I said, who, what? It was like, yeah, Jelly Bean Benitez went to allow you to be on this soundtrack. He wants $3.50. I think I'm robbing him for $150. That's when I was saying, oh, no, we got
Starting point is 00:30:04 to find this dude. Because, you know, he wasn't in the same surveys. And it was in Malibu and all that. We had to catch them outside of the awards show. It would be like, your brother, the gigs are. These lawyers know both parties. So they got their friends over here. They act like they're your friend over there.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So they put these little things in the contract that, you know, because they're supposed to have watch your back. I got two lawyers going after. I'm going to put it right there. I'm going to get that ass, though. Because they slick. So I just got to, you. You know, be slick.
Starting point is 00:30:40 So I got to get that. They robbing me now. The lawyers, I got some allegedly, I don't know if I could see that. I got some serious. I got some serious friends who, thank you. I got some serious friends. And I don't care if we in dinner or whatever. He's fucking lawyers.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But I never understood that. I felt like you do your job. I pay you this and this. Right now, I'm like, Like, these fucking lawyers, like, yo, these lawyers. So you're going through the same thing I'm going through right now. They're the biggest crooks I've ever seen in my life. But, you know, some of them, when they're doing what they're doing,
Starting point is 00:31:19 you know, they can lose their license because they really. Man, I don't know about that. Nah, they're going to, yeah. They got to do a lot to lose their life. What I'm telling you is, like, if you doing things, knowing you're doing things and you catch them, you know what I'm saying? It's like if they're representing both parties, that type of shit. We caught this one, nigga, 20 times, Keith.
Starting point is 00:31:39 He still ain't get fun. Well, let me tell you to you. Half of the time they represent both parties, but you don't know they represent both parties. You know what I'm saying? Because they finagling in the contract where you don't know they represent this party and that party. So they can't be serving your best interest.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And their job is to serve your best interest, right? And if you go to the corner and say, they didn't have my best interest at hard. And they finagle me because they were friends over here and they didn't serve my best interest. Half of the time, if you go to the right, get the right job. and go to the right play.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Because a lot of times they put it in the contract, we will only settle this in this state or this whatever. It ain't powerful. Right. So basically what it is, if you're doing business in any state, whether the land or whatever, if that business is being done in that particular state,
Starting point is 00:32:24 you can sue in that particular state. You know, all that shit about we got to go to Connecticut to settle in all that. These guys, man, let me tell you some. I could tell you guys, 1 million percent. You need an attorney. Don't sign no paper without an attorney, but these guys are cool. Let's just say they get paid well.
Starting point is 00:32:43 They want the bag. Who he said? Don't sign the paper without an attorney? Yeah, I won't sign the paper without an attorney. Even if you sign an attorney, you better check another attorney. The attorney attorney. Attorney for an attorney. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Did you hear BIA? I got lawyers watching lawyers. It's the truth. No, you got to have. Because the attorney, half these attorneys are friends with these record companies and whatever. So they, boy. So you got to have an attorney, watch the attorney. You can't have this.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like, you have to have an attorney who don't know this attorney to be. It's almost like, Julie I do now. I have to get robbed 50,000. Julius is crook. I got a girl. She's been my attorney maybe 10 years. And everybody I work with, they're like, yo, you need a bigger time attorney. You need this.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I said, listen, she's. Somebody that's for you. You know you. and don't rob and she's smart and I'm fucking with her. Right. And every attorney you know, try to have a meeting with me, Joe.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Like, you know, I'm like, well, I've been through them fast talking niggas. I'm good. Let me stay with my girl. She watched my back. She may be a little bit slower than them, being like in speed. But she got your message.
Starting point is 00:33:56 She's a mother. Oh, no. She's not playing with it. But these other guys, you use them for Eddie. Oh, my God. I'm dizzy. These niggas said, Happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:34:06 They gave me a bill. No, if I tell you the matter of fact, when we get off the air, I'm going to tell you this lawyer bill. You're going to smoke 40 blunts for me. You and K going to roll them shit stuff and smoke 36 therapy blunts. You're going to be like, give me the whole bonnet chronic. I can't be 55 paying this shit. I'm supposed to be on my retirement gatherings, niggins.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You're supposed to be looking like Gerald Burr. Look. They're trying to wipe me out. Look, look. Just the least I could do. They get mad at me. Like you, you spent too much money on clothes. I'm saying, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I'm working for this fucking money. I'm going to be fly till I die. Like, look at, yo, Keith, you look fucking amazing. Thank you, my brother. And I tell him every time I FaceTime here, I tell him all the time. Every time I FaceTime, Keith, he on a fucking machine running 30 miles but out.
Starting point is 00:35:03 You think you work out. You call Keith sweat anytime in the morning. Nigger like the incredible whole. He's gone, bro. And the fucking him, he don't jog on the trail. He ain't walking. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:35:17 All systems go. That's why he looked great. Movement is medicine. Now you're tapping in the Afro beats. What's going on with that? Yeah, that's the new R&B, babe. I feel that. I feel the new...
Starting point is 00:35:28 Because, you know, the R&B had changed so much. I just wanted something that made you feel good. That made you, you know, because Afrobee got that. Yeah, it got that. that whole vibe, you know, no matter where you're at, out the country. In the country, you're like, oh, shit, that's it. It feels like, don't scurl.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Don't stop me love. So that whole Afrobeat thing got a whole vibe to it. So that's what made me tap into that because, you know, I always love Applebee. I always love it. But the music is central. It's sexy, sensual. And, you know, it just says all the right now. So that's why I tap into it.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I always love this, though. It just feels like it's just. be me. Me too. You know, Africa's so big. I always knew that shit was going to blow on another level when I'm out there. I thought you was about to say, I feel like to say Afo Beach started in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Ow! We might have... Hold up. No, hold up. No, hold up. No, don't co-sign that shit. Listen, we might... Let me say something.
Starting point is 00:36:36 We might have more Africans. Definitely. In the fucking Bronx. You don't. Anywhere else. In Africa. I wouldn't say Africa, but the Bronx is African-mania.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Like, we got Africans all over in the Bronx. I'm not saying African-American straight. People from Ghana got bone from fucking Zemonga. They're in that motherfucker in the Bronx. There are no more Puerto Ricans in the Bronx. It's all in that. It's Africa. You know how we like tours, right?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Mm-hmm. he got the R&B lovers to all come. No, how are you like going? Look who he got. Look who's on the bill. Joe, Drew Hill, genuine,
Starting point is 00:37:17 cut close. Cut close. That's great. You really get up. You wrote that shit, huh? Get up on it. That's one of the greatest. That's classic.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yo, cut close. All right, this is what I was asking before the man detoured me, right? To help you get to this question. A man told me to Africa, man. Let me tell you something. Creating music is something you got to be born with. How did you know the woman to put on the duets with you?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Like, they're just as good as you, bro. Right, man. What was the name, Athena? Athena Cage. Jesus. Let's give it up for Athena Cage. Yo, man, like, how do you pick? Because all these girls singing back to you.
Starting point is 00:38:08 It was just perfection. Every one. If you cut close, perfection. Everything, when you come in, I like the way you had. You thought they'd kill that shit. You come real freaky, baby. But how do you pick the perfect people that are?
Starting point is 00:38:30 Like going to the studio, listening to them, saying if you know, if I say sing this, saying if they can follow my lead on stuff because, you know, like, if you're having a hard time riffing on some shit that I'm giving you, like, you ain't the one. But if you can, ooh, when I heard her wrist was so like, oh, my God, so incredible that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:54 okay, I can write anything for this girl. You know what I mean? Yes. So when I came up with, if you really, really want it, and she said, I like it when you get real big of that. You know what I'm saying? So she made me want to sing it like that. You know, like it, girl, win a week.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So she made me want to sing it like that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, freaky, baby. No. What's talking that shit? I step on stage. Girl screamed like a geese. You never mentioned how many fucking hip-hop records?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Your man, Drake, I'm a light skin, key sweat. Right. I mean, how many rappers them mention key sweat and they songs and all that. And how you feel about that when you hear the record and they talk in that Keith sweatshit? I mean, it's like it just showed me the generations that I've touched.
Starting point is 00:39:47 You know, like when I was talking to somebody, they were telling them, I don't touch the mamas. No, no, I'm going to tell you something. The daughters, the little kids, the little kids. Right, I'm going to tell you something. Because I watch everything you do. You popped out in a plies show where the oldest person was 23, 25.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And broke. And it's something. every fucking word. Even Fat Joe, your number one fan wouldn't be able to bet. If we had to do hard rock bets, there's no way I would have said. Every 23 year old would know
Starting point is 00:40:19 every single key sweat. It's impossible. The whole stadium starts singing every fucking word. Like, that got to feel amazing. Yeah, that shit was crazy because when I went on the stage, I was supposed to hit, sing nobody, too. I was supposed to be a special guest
Starting point is 00:40:36 and come on and say, it makes it last forever and nobody. But when I got there, Ply's said, yo, I already do writing the wrong way. Right. Right in the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So I think I was supposed to come on before Ply's. And he said, nah, you need to come on with me. So he does writing the wrong way at the end of the song. So he said, yo,
Starting point is 00:40:58 this could not be no better situation. So when he started writing the wrong way, I came out. You know what I'm saying? And that's when they, They went crazy. Then I was winning to make it last, right? And I knew this was the millennial tour,
Starting point is 00:41:12 and I was supposed to go into nobody. They said, no, no, no, we can't let him do nobody because if he do nobody, they won't be no more show. Sure. Yeah. So, they made me stop. You be careful who you brought out on your fucking little show. Because they will kill that, they will body that bitch.
Starting point is 00:41:29 You bring the wrong guy out? I told a story. I'll tell her to get it, fuck it, man. You know, somebody. Nah, because it's legendary. You know, one of my favorites also is Elder Barge. I'm trying to be on my birthday maybe 10 years in a row. One year I had them.
Starting point is 00:41:45 We had private playing for him, everything. Swiss beat was going to drive him up. Motherfucking ain't show up. You know, the barge, he'd get missing. So one day, I'm doing the show with Dave Chappelle. You was with me that day, rest of peace, Clark Kent. Yo, a man hit me out of the clear blue sky. I said, yo, I'm in town.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I said, pull up the man. Madison Square Garden. Let's throw him. Come up there. And I got him. He was, ooh, and I like the whole garden was singing that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:15 That shit, you'll be careful who you bring on stage because they'll rip that shit down. Legendary on you. But yeah, that's what happened. You know, Keith Swant, I'm going to tell a story. I don't know if it's private and we'll cut it, right? But he gets scared when I say some shit.
Starting point is 00:42:35 But I remember it was COVID. And somebody canceled a show. I don't know if it was Essence Fest or some festival shit. And I happened to be with you when you started politic and that money, you was like, I know you got the PPP, nigger. I know you did. I was like, yo! You think you know numbers?
Starting point is 00:42:56 I was dizzy with Keith. Hold up, Joe. Yeah, you got that PPP loan. Homeboy was going to charge you this and this and that. This is last minute. I don't know if I feel like going out there. You know this man, you caught these dudes for so much money out there. Where was it?
Starting point is 00:43:12 It had to be New Orleans. She jazz flustered some shit. Yo, I heard you. I said, yo, I'd never seen nobody negotiate like that. Like, you were a hell of a fucking negotiate. Yeah, I mean, because I... Well, you know your worth. And I know numbers.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I'm like, yo, yo, I know you got that PPP's on. Nah, I was there. And I said, I know you got it. I know what you got. You know what I'm saying? It's public. knowledge. You knew what he got to.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I was standing. You was like, yo, I know what you got on the PPP loan. You got to spend that. Otherwise, it's illegal. I know what you was given. Who was it? Frankie Beverly.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Somebody was supposed to do that shit. Yeah, because, you know, because a lot of people don't know all that is a public knowledge. So you can go and see what everybody got. You know what I'm saying? So if you don't know that, you're not going to go and look and see what everybody got.
Starting point is 00:44:03 So I know what you got. It's not taxed deductible. You ain't got to pay it. Give up no time. You know, so spend that money. That was the coldest shit. That was the coldest shit I ever seen by life. Business negotiations, yo, kiss.
Starting point is 00:44:18 He told the promoter that. Yes. He's showing the promoter, yo, you got one point something. Not 10 million. You got 10 million PPP. You got to spend that shit or you go to jail, my brother. This is Keith Sweat telling him. So Frankie Beverly got sick of something.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Last minute. It was two days. to the show they want KeySquare. Key Squet start telling him. You got this to PPP, you paid this for the venue. I know Frankie Beverly, I do the shows with him. He ain't moving without $4.50 or $4. He was breaking this shit.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Had his whole shit down. What? Scientifically. I'm like sitting there like, yo, I ain't know people could do it. And he got him, too. Keith got him. That's when I knew. I said, I always knew you was a smart businessman.
Starting point is 00:45:03 But that's when I said, oh, no. This guy, God forbid you. negotiate with Keith. You're not beating Keith Sweat. Not in the negotiation. When is the, for OMB Lovers, it starts in February. The first year of February 13th.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Oh, right before Valentine's. I think, yeah, I believe it's February 13th. But for those that want to know, you can go to keepswet.com. No, I'm saying, buy my bags, my candles. He definitely got the luxury-line-in-bags. Candles. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And I know they're going out there, man. They're going to be using that. wine too, you know what I'm saying? This shit right here. Yeah. Why, why be 53 when you... You ain't got me on none of the... Why, you ain't got me on none of them boxers, man.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Man, you definitely told me that. I'm trying to politic. Nah, no, you... He told me, right? Hold on. Hold on. He told me he called me. Gallup!
Starting point is 00:45:58 He told me he called me. I said, man, Joe, you ain't tell me you ain't called me about that. I did call you, man. I did call you, man. He did call you. He said, Joe. Like, yo, Joe, you fucked up. Man, you had, I sell more boxes than that.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I believe it. I said, I'm the making last forever, man. I said, I'm, yeah, they see me on the look, look. They see me on. I still got mine. Look, mine ain't going nowhere. You go to Turkey. That's real, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:46:21 No, I ain't no turkey. I don't care. You go to Turkey. No. Bro, I went to Turkey. That's good. Joe Kra. I ain't got no head, so you can't accuse me.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I went to Turkey in that fucking airport. Eight out of ten men had their shit wrapped up and bloody like, they're going to Turkey for that shit. Like, girls going to Columbia D off of BBL. They are in, the airport is flooded with dudes with their, there's little blood on their shit. They're going to get their head. They think that your shit's still El Natchel.
Starting point is 00:46:54 El Natchel, baby. Put them on a box. You know, that's a no-brainer. But you know what then? We need to do something together. How about these guys, D.C. young, but those guys came on the show, they were like, yo, kiss, you got your hair, like?
Starting point is 00:47:07 then you bought the big shit back here. He's trying to save that. Chingo Bing. Chingle Bing, huh? That boy, Chingle Bing, 85, stop. This shit pushed back here. I'll give up. I gave up a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:47:22 My shit pushed back like that. I'm giving up. Take a bit and shave your shit. Oh, take a bit. Take a big and shit. That's what I use. You know, my shit's smooth as fuck. But I use a big.
Starting point is 00:47:34 What do you want to be used a $1,000? a razor, this shit is just, it's better. It's work. See, passionate. I ain't got to worry about this shit. I'm fortunate. Right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:50 Fortunate. Unfortunate, baby. Oh, no. I wish. I tell them all the time. No, I take these, make it last forever pills, so it makes my hair grow. Really? You what?
Starting point is 00:48:01 No is throwing it back. 20s, the decade. To the days of huge hits. And unforgettable. A non-stop stream of the biggest and best. Drake, Rihanna, Beyonce, Katie Gaga, The Weekend. And more. All your decade defining favorites all in one place.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Hi, it's Katie Perry. Hey, it's Bruno Mars. This is Kesha. Find 2010's The Decade on the free Iheart radio app. Preset the station so it's always one tab away. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm in Alec Lamouba.
Starting point is 00:48:38 It's 1969. Malcolm Max and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated, and Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almemata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history,
Starting point is 00:48:59 Martin Luther King Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution, I mean, people would die. In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Listen to the A-building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you do in the headlines, don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss
Starting point is 00:50:08 that changes you purpose when success isn't enough, peace when your mind won't slow down, faith, when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm Bowen-Yen. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan Cortina-2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bob, Hey Elmo. Hey Matt, hey Bowen.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Hi, Cookie. Hi. Now, the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to two guys, five rings on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Segregation and the day integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together.
Starting point is 00:51:29 But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and visit Myrtle Beach, comes Charlie's Place. A story that was nearly lost to time.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I got shit with Keith Sweat. I shot a movie with him and all, like twin pillars. Yeah, we're doing Aaron Henson, Nicole Murphy, myself. Fat Joe Kane now did his thing in it, you know what I'm saying? So, you know. Darren from the Bronx, too.
Starting point is 00:52:27 You can't dispute that. He grew up with Raul or Melrose. So, you know, we got... If he said he ain't from the Bronx, he's full of shit. I'm telling you, he's from the Bronx. Yeah, Darren, then he don't say he's not from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx. Yeah, because he was on that dance, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:41 He's doing it. What's the thing? The dance... Oh, dangit. Hey, let me... Yeah, screw. Let me explain something to you, Chief, right? You never...
Starting point is 00:52:50 You never been into drugs and nothing like that, right? That's not. That's not. I'm not calling weed drugs, right? Weed is like a cigarette. Wait, go, limit. No, I'm trying. No, the point is, the reason why he's still rich
Starting point is 00:53:03 and get all that money is because he's not on drugs, and he don't take drugs. I'm trying to tell you that every time we see a legend like him look great. Liv, I went to his house. This shit on the water, big-ass estate, this, this, that. Same thing when I watch Eddie Murphy in his fucking documentary is start in a $90 million house,
Starting point is 00:53:24 beat. That shit come. I knew he ain't used drugs. That motherfucker was like, now. I ain't never smoke a cigarette. And every time our legends are well kept and they look amazing is because they didn't fuck with the drugs. The drugs
Starting point is 00:53:40 are hard drugs. I'm not talking about a little lids. Because Eddie was smoking the joint doing the dog of mill. He said they were saying wild smoking a joint to he turned groaning already mad rich. I understand it. I understand it. Some people smoke the joint when they all to go to sleep
Starting point is 00:53:57 and don't know. Me, I run for my neck. You know, I smoked for the leg. Time I ran out the house with my head. It was a bullshit. No leg pain. What did you say you smoked weed and ran out of the house?
Starting point is 00:54:05 Smoke weed one time. That wasn't weed. It was weak. The girl gassed me. That was Frankie, baby. The sex's going to be incredible. That wasn't weed. That wasn't weed.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Frankie, baby. That dick said I smoked the old dirty bastard. Who? Whoa. He said I smoked. Well, she gasped me. The sex's going to be great. This, this, dad.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I smoked that shit. I ran out that crib, butt-ass, naked. Like, three in the morning, thank God. I was like, kids in a heart attack. I got to go to the hospital. She gasped me. Joe, we just get in the car. Don't worry, I'll take you.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Getting the car. She went around the block. I took, like, eight showers. I ain't never do that shit again. And I'm in the studio with a DEA can knock us, nigger. The mickers got mountains of weed in the middle. Everybody smoked. Every night I drove home.
Starting point is 00:54:53 For in the studio, I swore I was going to go to jail for just secondhand smoke. I smell like Jada kiss, and I don't even smoke. Every night I'm going home, I smell like weed. Hell yeah. I'm a casual smoker. Hold on. Hold on that. If you could, OD off the, let me tell you, you can't smoke in this bill. Shut out the Rock Nation.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Somehow he found the loophole. He got a window about it. Somewhere this guy can smoke in this fucking place. He'd go, he come back. I see, damn, man, then they're on the hubonic, chronic. You can't even speak too loud in this fucking building. Jada come back. And I know the difference, too.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I don't get high, nothing like that, but I know how to observe. I know when they gave him the pure or he's just fun with it. Like, sometimes they give him that shit. He's stuck. I got to say. everything. Oh, look, Jay to shit. Get my motherfucking in like this.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Look, Jay to fool's shaking. He's polter guy stout. That's all. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, no. Joe. God forbid what you thinking.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Joe, yo, yeah, yeah. Look at this. You're talking to you. You're probably poacher guy stout. You and that shit like, yo. Caroline. You know, that shit crazy. But, yo.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Your foot is foot axed for it. Right now. He keeps shaking the foot. Oh, no. It's the meeting foot. All right. We ain't doing deals. If the deals is going to go through or not.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You know how you can do with these officers? Man, let me tell you something, Sprat. We put our foot in their ass. We came on the podcast. You seen that shit, huh? That ain't no pause through time, fella. That's just the truth. You were part of American history what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:56:41 We started a fucking podcast. These guys in the game 20 years, 10 years, this day got 10 followers. We on with Key Sweat, T-O-C, this every fucking day. You saw that list? Yesterday? No. Listen, it's a list
Starting point is 00:56:55 about 30 people, superstars all begging to be on the show. You talk to our people. This shit. They don't send me the list. We're on Netflix in six months. I don't get this list. He's never do that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:05 You think I'm delivering? I'm not. Let me tell you something, Keith. No, I ain't involved in the list. I don't give a fuck what he said. He want to be humble. I am not. The one thing I learned from Kanye West,
Starting point is 00:57:16 is you got to fucking say what the fuck is going on. Because they try to act like this regular shit. This ain't regular shit. shit. They nerds. They flabby and sick. The motherfucker looking like bitch Blood Green. He's going crazy. I don't see the list. You know I know bitch, blood green.
Starting point is 00:57:32 They know me and you was good, so they probably just told me right before you came up on the elevator. You know, your man, Kieff is my God. That's why you didn't show me the lips. You ain't dressed like Gerald Levert. Nigger, you should have had a mock neck on or something, man. She's sweat. Nigger, like, you got a... You tell you Lever.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I can't even. You came in Jada Kiss, y'all, it's funny. I'm looking like motherfucking you. I like the way you in. Why you wasn't at the Knicks game last night? I was there last night, man. Oh, you was there? Last night.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I ain't been to a next game yet. But I invited you called him. I invited you in the hardest dickens to get it. What's wrong with Jeter kiss? My kids. Yo, the hardest. Let me just think, send him. The hardest ticket in the world.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And he got actually. is the All-Star game. I don't give a fuck if you got pneumonia, you go to that game and you sit in that sea or next year, Chris Tucker take your shit. They don't give you part two. You turn that shit down. You ain't getting part two.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It ain't for consideration. That seat is yours. If you're blessed enough, there is no money. If you sell that bitch, billionaire dudes ask me, yo, let me give you $200,000 for a house. I said, fuck. No, they'll be like, oh, he's sitting in the fat Joe
Starting point is 00:58:53 See, Fadjo ain't never coming again. The other one is Christmas Day in New York City. I'm telling my business partner, yo, what's up? I got you. Let's go. Let's shit on them. Let's sit Korsi.
Starting point is 00:59:04 He's like, hey, you know, I'm going to do marshmallows in the fireplace. He almost burned down the whole fucking house. Fucking with the smores and shit on the fucking house. He almost burning shit down with the fireplace. You're doing too much, Jada. I know you're on Netflix and all that, but you got to chill. All right. The motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Did we come back that game? That's when I was texting. You were in rich. No, we won that game. You was like, yo, Joe, this shit. Hey, I started off looking. He hit me up. You're sleeping them, Joe.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You look like you sleeping on the shit. We was getting our ass whipped by 20. He was dissing me the whole shit. Yo, Joe, wake him up. It's no fluidity. They came back. He came back. We got that dumb.
Starting point is 00:59:45 That was a good. You've seen that shit back. It's time to listen to some music. Yep. All right, let's go. Plugged in. Let's go. What we're listening to?
Starting point is 00:59:54 What we're listening to? I don't know. You're your shit. All right, let's working, baby. Let's go working. That's what we do. We work. Play it loud.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And come on with that vibe. We're about to get another couple mill, hundred million. I put that work in. You got that fire. I got that earthwind. I clocking early. I think it's perfect. The truth is hard to swallow.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I got her thirst quench. Yes. Say less. A girl say I'm a. The kid got wheezy, hell that fact. Came out the game with Weizie. Flag on the place. Weezy baby.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Shout out the wheezy. Shit. Bring that bitch back. That shit rocking on frift. Put that work in. You got that fire. I got that earth wind. I got that thirst.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I got her thirst. Oh, he's ready. I tell her bitch I hate pets Sometimes we make love Make mess And smoke blunt I'm trying to be employee
Starting point is 01:01:37 Of the money Every month Gotta work for And I'm gonna work for That's a job well done Like a certain on We used to baby Baby, baby
Starting point is 01:01:44 Love me like your first porn Love is blind But I search for I know I gotta let it all work out And I'm gonna let that shit Keep said don't sweat that bitch Moola I can shoot my
Starting point is 01:04:35 I'm prematurely speaking When is your What year was your first hit? 88 How to fuck it feel to drop a hit at 88 and 2006 drop another hit.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Now how hard it is to do that. That's a smash hit. There's nothing they could do with that. Who's the girl that was singing at the end? Being maddy. She's from Nigeria. She ain't fucking playing. Like, that shit was incredible. How'd you fun? How'd you? You're incredible. How did he make that?
Starting point is 01:05:05 I don't think is nothing he can't do. He top off. Let her alive. I tell you that every time somebody come up on here and start talking about that. On B shit, I went on tank show. Everywhere I go, they bring it up. He's like, Joe, who your top five on B? You're always there.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Thank you, man. Always there. Luther Vandjors, you always there. I'm like, yo, you see, it's nothing. I am surprised because that is a super smash year in 2026, but at the same time, I'm never surprised when it comes to real hitmakers. If Nelly came out tomorrow with the big. biggest record on earth.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I would say, okay, 50 cent come out tomorrow with a new ghost shorty right now. I'd be like, that's what they do. That's what Keith Sweat do. Unfortunately, we take you for granted because that's what you do. You knock them out the park all the time. I see the bag coming out again. That bag coming back out on that tour. That's all I seen, the first four bars.
Starting point is 01:06:06 A hundred million went by. Hey, take you. The motherfucker search it. Y'all Keith, one question I got for you. It's legendary is, you knew I had the time to go out to Atlanta. Right. What made you say, I'm going to Atlanta before everybody? You there before anything happened out there.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Right. At that time, must have been woods, sticks. Yeah, it just woods and everything. Well, you know, basically it was more a sort move that I made for my mom because, you know, I wanted to really take care of her. And, you know, for the houses that I would have bought in New York, It was like it wasn't big enough I felt for her. So I moved to Atlanta basically
Starting point is 01:06:46 because I wanted to give her the biggest house or the biggest situation she ever had. So I got bought a house on two acres of land. Now, Affureta, I just happened to luck up and get it, go to Alpharetta back in the day because Alpharetta was nothing. Now, Alpharetta is the biggest thing in Atlanta. So I ended up being at Alpharetta, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:06 and I was there ahead of time. I always admired that about you. Yeah, so, I mean, I was able to build everything because, you know, when I went out there, I was one of the first person to put an SSL board in my house, 54 channel input, you know what I'm saying? So after the second album, I put the SSL board in my house, and that's where I did, the Silk album, my album, all my album, LSD.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Every album I did, that's why I got all my masters on my reels in my, in my garage. You saw my thing in the garage, nothing but the freak me, I give all my loves of you, all that. You know, because I did it on my board, SSL board in my house. You know what's crazy is, yo, we... Come on. That's Gene. Yo, man, shout out Johnny Gill, man.
Starting point is 01:07:52 He came to see me. I was in L.A. He hit me out. He was like, yo, I heard you out. Where you at? I'm at the Waldorf Astoria. The man pull up and the Rose Royce. Oh, take it down. And I...
Starting point is 01:08:05 You don't understand. Like me, I've never been a hater in my life. I always love inspiration. I want my legends to look incredible, man. When that man pulled up in that double law with that shit, I said, thank God. This guy's doing great. I love it.
Starting point is 01:08:22 What color was it? I think it was like gray or green or something. Who gave a fuck? We're sitting in the lobby. No, I was the other guy came to my house. He came to my house. He said, man, I'm going to give me one. Oh, he did it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yo, he did it. He pulled up on me with that shit. And they get in my house. I'm telling you. I'm going to get him. me what that. Fucking right. Fucking right.
Starting point is 01:08:45 That's my dude. That man, that man pull up. I said, yo, he made me so happy. I said, because I love it
Starting point is 01:08:53 looking at my, my legends and my icons, my idols looking good and living good. You know, Mary Jay, my sister, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:02 So she told her we need to do an album together. Keith Swift, I'll tell her, I need her to do make a last brother with me, Get up on it with me. All my female.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Classic. Yeah. Oh, my God. Then you do Keith, Keith, and Mary to her? Shit. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Did you ever do a Christmas album? You did a Christmas album? Yeah, I did it. I did it, but, you know, I just did some videos on it recently. Yeah, I did one eight years ago, but I started putting songs out there.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Man, that Christmas time, I had that soulful Christmas, man. They had all that young Jackson five shit, that Luke did that dick, man, it's so much good. Christmas music out there. Man, this ain't that. And that ain't this.
Starting point is 01:09:46 It's cracking kiss. God, damn it annoys to Keith. Thank you, boom, boo, boo. I step on stage. Girl scream like I'm Keith. Appreciate you. My brother. He's mad, man.
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