Joe and Jada - Lefty Gunplay talks Kendrick Lamar, Grammy win, rehab & building Black-Latino coalition

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

During their trip to Los Angeles, Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Lefty Gunplay, the first Latino artist to take home the Grammy for Best Rap Song for his "TV Off" collaboration with Kendrick Lamar.... Lefty tells Joe and Jada about what it meant for Kendrick to put a rapper like him on, his upbringing in the Los Angeles gang culture, the way he'd like to inspire other Latinos to come together with the Black community, and the moment he called Top Dawg and Kendrick to tell them he was checking into rehab. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 Fuck it, I'm going to go to rehab. And then I called Top Dogg. And Tendrick Lamar, they said, that's the most gangster shit you ever said. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack to Dawn. Your boy, Jada, you know what it is? The niggas came with the outfit,
Starting point is 00:02:36 Chinese J. Tim. Hey, nothing off. I'm not that. I'm not saying you my tube will tell you, you, nigga. West Side. He's lost out.
Starting point is 00:02:52 We love that. No, might pop out to the curtains. You know what I mean? It's the Joe and Jay to show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. When you think of today's
Starting point is 00:03:04 guest, you think of somebody who's able to overcome adverse, somebody who's about changing their life. You know what I mean? Getting to the bag. Getting the mental health together. Doing the right thing. Getting the music.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Popping. Grammy winner. You all have been nominated, but it's hard to win one of them things. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for a lefty gunplay. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So, my brother. Brother, it's the honor to have you, man. We're in L.A. And we said they don't get no more L.A. The gunplayed lefty right now at this moment and my brother gained. And so we touched the Saw You. You know, this is the Joe and Jada show.
Starting point is 00:03:55 We're about the culture. And we said, let's bring our brother on. What's crazy is, I didn't see the Grammys. My wife saw this. She called him and she was like, yo, it's Latino guys screaming Latino on the Grammys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He won, this is my wife calling me telling me that you won the Grammy. So you win the Grammy,
Starting point is 00:04:15 what's so important about you saying, yo, Kendrick put a Latito on. I just want the homies to understand it. He gave me a platform and it's been something
Starting point is 00:04:25 that's so hard to do in Los Angeles to, you know, break into the rap game as a Latino. And, you know, Kendrick really, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:33 black and brown unity at his finest right there. It don't get no bigger than that. And I appreciate him for giving me that platform. I got the bar and I'm running with it. I ain't looking back.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Right. You know, one of the living legends. So many kids, it looked like me in the hood, you know? And just, I'm glad to represent the people in the right way. There's one of the Latino legends from out here one time. I don't want to say his name because he's beyond a legend. But he comes and I take him to the Bronx to hang out with you. You know, we're in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So it's very different. This is what I want to talk to you about so people can visualize. and understand what's going on. Very different in the West Coast, unfortunately, between the Latinos and blacks, like in New York. Everybody's a mixed baby. Everybody's black in Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And so he comes with us, and I'm just showing him a good time. We had Jimmy's Brons Cafe, and he asks me, yo, you fuck with the black people? And I looked at him like, because I might as well be black. I don't know how to explain it to you any other way.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So I looked at him, I said, yo, what you mean? He said, out West, we don't fuck with the black. I said, well, I can't fuck with you no more, my man, because that's not what we are on him. And I didn't even understand. That's the lojo time or some shit like that. I think I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Whoa. Yeah, he's a legend. But he told me, yo, we don't fuck with the black dudes. I said, well, I can't fuck with you. That was the last time I ever rock with him, even though he is a legend. And he's a pioneer, somebody who started it. But that's when I started to realize
Starting point is 00:06:05 that there's parts of the country that lost the door's in blacks and connected like that. Yeah. You know, and so that's what you meant when you went up there, you said, yo, this brother gave me a chance that's unified. Yeah, stronger together.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And you ain't going to get nowhere and rap if you ain't cool with no blacks, you know? It's their culture, you know, and they allow me to, you know, make money off this and more homies are following in my footsteps, you know? And I appreciate everything Tengel Lamar did for me and changed my life.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You know, I always said that the biggest, rapper on earth is going to be a Mexican rapper if he finds a way to let, I always tell you that, Steve. Steve Lobel's here. The biggest rap on earth is going to be a Mexican-American rapper that fucks with black people, fucks with everybody and just makes music for everybody. He's going to have the whole world in the sense.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You're leading that in the footsteps. And, you know, we already got that. You know, big pun, his song was bawdy, more than that. That means Latinos and blacks together. So I've always been about that. You paid away. Good looking, brother.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Tell me about the Mexican experience in that lake. Ball and part, a lot of gang gang, you know. I got jumped into my neighborhood when I was 13 years old, juvenile hall, prison, live a real life, you know, really about that life. And I was sitting in Pelican Bay. and I'm like, man, you know, it's just a revolving cycle. I was in Cork and Shoe, Pelican Bayes Sue.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And I seen old Jeezy, he's a rapper out here. I said, I could do that. And I said, man, I'm going to break the cycle. I'm going to be a rapper, fuck it, you know. And then the rest was history. I manifested everything. I seen it in my head. I ran with it, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:54 But just, you know, real Latino neighborhood, La Pente, Bon Park, West Corbyna, El Monte. You know, just ain't nothing coming out of there. It's gang bang. You know, try to make it change. Do you see that you're influencing the young Mexicans to start rap and start trying to definitely change and be positive? Yeah, definitely, man.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Follow your dreams. Anything's possible. That's real talk. Not only did you want to gram me, you won it after getting released from prison. Yeah. How does that feel? What kind of space did it make you want to? Man, it's a dream come true.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's a trip. It still hasn't really hit me yet. No, it's amazing. You look great that night, too, boy. You threw that shit on. Yeah. Through that shit on, boy. Yeah, I appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah, I've been in the last six months. I've been in rehab. Shout out to the Haven Detox. Frank Stitt and Carrillo, I've been right there getting my mind right, you know? How hard is that, right? Like, how long you was on drugs? And I'm glad you're not ashamed of that.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And that's how you really inspire it. Yeah. Fuck music, fuck all that. That's your real purpose to turn that shit around. Somebody like Jelly Road, you see how, he isn't scared to say, you, I was fucked up. I was using drugs.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And he inspires so many people. And now he's the biggest in the game. You got to realize more people relate to that. Like, I lost the brother to drugs. He wouldn't get off drugs. When did you start? How did that come about? And when did you finally say,
Starting point is 00:09:20 yo, I'm a, I gotta stop doing this. Man, I've been doing drugs since, like, I was 13. Just in that gang culture, it's just something that's always around in county and prison. And I became dependent on it. And, you know, ever since I got sober, but I was blowing everything. I was blowing all this opportunity. I got into a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:09:40 What kind of drugs? Everything. Everything. Crystal, heroin, Coke. What's more addictive? Crystal heroin, not? Heroin, not? Liquor.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Balance it out. I was just blowing all my opportunity. Everybody's all like, man, you got a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. You're throwing it away. I was at a Cheney concert. It was a Cheney, a E. Darul concert, and I was talking to all of them, and I told him, you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Fuck it, I'm going to go to rehab. And then I called Top Dogg. And Tendrick Lamar, and they said, that's the most gangster shit you ever said, you know? So I flew out to rehab in Miami, you know, stopped cold turkey, knowing that I was Grammy nominated, popped up like a boogeyman, everybody tripped out. Nobody thought I could change my ways, but I did.
Starting point is 00:10:25 A day at a time, brother, I'm yelling. You know what's for that, man. The hardest thing about it is trying to write now, Sober. Like, I'm very trying to... I made all my hits. Sober. All the lean backs make your reins all the way yups.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Any fucking hit you ever heard in your life? Sober. Don't let nobody tell you you got to be hard or right. Not true. If you can do what I can do it. Yes. You got this. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:10:58 That's exactly what I'm saying. It's going to take a minute, but then once you get it, yeah, you know what I mean? It's a truth sitting here with you guys. I was just bunking at New York. last night. Oh, no. That's love.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah. There's love right there. I told you on West Side Teresquah, man. You're just on Territ Squad, man. Get him a chain, man. Get him a chain. That motherfucker. If you're saying that, then you bought that life,
Starting point is 00:11:21 niggins because we bought that life. Yeah. Shout out, Steve will tell you. Shout out. I think of you because you're Mexican. I think of hip-hop. You know, of course, Cypress Hills inspired me and punt.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah. They're the first ones to inspire ourselves on the age of level. Shout out the same. We will, send, all of them. Mr. Cartoon. Yeah. Do you know Mr. Cartoon?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Legendary, yep. Yep. Shout out of Mr. Carton. What a fucking legend, Mr. Cart. Hell yeah, West Hard. You know, me personally, every time I came to LA, you know, I was more towards Engelwood,
Starting point is 00:11:57 shout out, you know, Mac 10. I do believe, and this is something that everybody could argue with me, but we had something to do with the East Coast, West Coast, Connecting. Because it was at the time, Big E. Pock died.
Starting point is 00:12:12 There was a couple of more New York and West Coast beefs going on and me and Mac 10 met each other. And we became brothers. I came out here and shot a movie with him called Thick of Water in Inglewood. And then he came to my hood. And what's crazy is,
Starting point is 00:12:31 I never knew there was Bloods in New York. When I grew up, it wasn't Bloods. It wasn't Crips. It wasn't none of that. He came to my projects. And when I said you, all of them kids started running outside with the red suits on and hats, and it was like, yo, oh, gee, OG, that's when I knew we had Bloods in New York.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I didn't even know it. And I was in the street. So I brought him in my projects and everybody running out the building. Like, yo, OG, OG, OG. I was like, oh, shit, we got Bloods, New York. Yeah, I've been in New York. It's just a trip to trenches out there and just projects. They tell me, whatever you do, let me know what the difference.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Between that. Between L.A. and here. Man, I'm here every, every block's a gang. You know, pretty much every block's the game. You'd be somewhere nice right here. You make a right. You know, you're being some crips, some blood, some estes. You know, I'm a Sudanio, so, you know, I'm a South Sider out here.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I represent. But, yeah, New York, they drove me around the projects and shit. Towers. Don't walk up in here at midnight left me. I said, for show, you know, looking out. was so fucked up that if you was on drugs you would walk up in there
Starting point is 00:13:39 at any time to get the drugs. So when you're on drugs you're in the most dangerous neighborhood, you don't give a fuck. You got to get the shit. You're right. It's the same thing with places like Miami, too.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Miami, you can be a South Beach. You make a left turn. You're fucking... Pompano. You're in Pompano, but that's the way with you in Liberty City, all that shit, Overtown.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah, little bit of the city. Man, yeah. I lived my last crib was 50,000 a month. A penthouse. I went walking two blocks. I was in Overtown, nigger.
Starting point is 00:14:17 They was out in the middle of the street. It's so crazy how you got places that look like paradise, but you make the wrong turn. You will help. Yeah, hell year. I feel that. Plus, I'm about in Billington States right now.
Starting point is 00:14:33 In Texas and California. So I've been doing the right thing Trying to stay focused, you know Finding a gun charging Fighting some shit in Texas I learned my lesson I don't mess around in Texas You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:14:45 Shout out to my brother Baby Bash and Frankie Jay Do you heard of these guys? I know Baby Bash I met in person And sugar how you get so fly Yeah Sugar how you get so
Starting point is 00:14:57 Those are my guys And every time I went to Texas Man they showed me the best time in the world these are beautiful guys. Yeah. And they're Mexican, man,
Starting point is 00:15:07 they put down for the Mexicans, legendary those guys. But Texas is weird because you got a gun charge but I don't think you need a license for a gun charge, so is it because you're a felon? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You crush out of prison. When they said that, you was like, yo, everybody can have a gun and then they're like, not you, my man. Yeah. Snatched me of ASAP.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Mm-hmm. At this point, I don't think you're thinking nine to five, right? You think of rap. You're thinking... Yeah, rap, rap, right? Entrepreneur, get money, get this, get that.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So, invest. Did you think about taking your tattoos off your face at all? Never. Never. Uh-uh. I represent. Well, that's why they stopped doing texts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 The story of my life, though. What? Bro. You ever thought about, you ever thought about a cop? We so criminal-minded, we never think about the other side. The other side of the guy driving in the guy. Texas, he's seen him. That's how he knew he had the gun.
Starting point is 00:16:06 He's seen the tattoos. He said, hold on. This nigger from the other side of town. Let me pull. Yo, my man, what you got there? Right? So, it's part of your image. It's part of everything.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It's a disadvantage every day. Yeah. Legit. You got to get them real security. And in a couple of dollars. Yeah, we got real security. Get the real guys with the real guns and lead you. Good and short.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Okay. No, my guy shoot your face off. Yeah. Wait a little. I'm good, sir. Okay, thank you, Steve. Shoot your foot. That's how you got to move.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You know, you have security. You got legit security. Be legit that way because if you bring the crew, they think they're impressing you, they shoot the place up. Gun play lefty on the news. It happened to me one million times. I've been in jail because of this rap shit, D1.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I've been in jail maybe 30 times and shit I didn't even do. It was just like... Bring all the homies. Fat Joe. He's a... Joe, I really ain't me. When you bring the entourage and something happens, you know, it's on left.
Starting point is 00:17:10 No matter how you cutting. How about you don't even bring the entourage? You're in the wrong foot. You're in the soul house and you run out of here. They be that lucky lefty beat everybody up in here. Yo, this, this, you're always going to get the blame. Guess what? We were talking about a story behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:17:28 You know, we had Sham Guard and Jaylon Rose. You heard? I was in Jalen Roes last night. Mm-hmm. He was with Jalen last night. Yeah. So I asked my man, Shamgard right?
Starting point is 00:17:39 There's a guy, you know, I used to coach basketball in the Rucker, one of the big, the best coaches ever, actually the best coach of all time. Yeah. Six chips. And I get to talk
Starting point is 00:17:52 in the Shamgard and I bring up a player. So there was a player who was in high school that was going to the NBA from New York City. Who? I don't know if I should say that right now because I don't want to
Starting point is 00:18:08 what kind of light he's in I don't know I'll say his name Richie Parker Oh Rich Parker Rich Parker One of the best basketball players out of New York
Starting point is 00:18:18 He's supposed to go to the NBA There was no question No doubt that he was going Some girl allegedly got raped by some guys he knew And because he was the star The basketball team
Starting point is 00:18:33 allegedly she accused him. Almost like some Tupac shit. Tupac ain't raped that girl, but some guys they might have did something too much and then he caught the blame. So this is what I mean that, you know, people could do shit and it's always our fault
Starting point is 00:18:50 if we're famous and we're on the forefront. And one day it's crazy because how about I never met a better gentleman in the street basketball league or in the park to Richie Barker? I never met. met him nice and died in my life. And his mother was a fan.
Starting point is 00:19:07 She'd come to all the rock again. And I remember one day, I sat next to her. I'll see your mama. I said, how are you doing this? I'm sitting watching the game. She just looked up and she was like, we're supposed to be bitch. I said, her mama?
Starting point is 00:19:21 She said, we're supposed to be bitch. But she ain't do that. We would have been in that. Could you imagine? We'd have been in mansions. We'd have been, yo, that shit hurt me when that lady was. Yeah, I thought that.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so, you know, that's why it's so important that we got to move militant. Life happens. I wasn't signing with O.G. Oh, man, I signed with them my first week out of prison. You know, they gave me the money. And in the beginning, I thought they were stupid giving me that money because...
Starting point is 00:19:55 Oh, you ain't the only one. Yeah. We all felt like that. Yeah, like, shit. I'm about to go back to the pen. And then I took that money in. And they seem, you know, I'm right here. Grammy nominated one of Grammy blowing up, you know, through the roof.
Starting point is 00:20:10 So I'm getting my contract situated right now. But, yeah, it's bigger things ahead. You know what happened when I signed a terrorist squad deal with Atlantic Records? It was $10 million. We negotiated all night. Y'all Steve, why are you laughing? Because we negotiated all night, they wouldn't let me leave. It was like you can't leave.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Leo Cohen's outside. Every other record label you exact is dying for Fat Joe to come outside because I just put out big bun and he's going double platinum. They're like, yo, this nigga got the Latino explosion. Yeah. We got to sign whatever Spanish got like it was like that so they wouldn't let me leave. We wind up getting $10 million.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Shoot it. I felt like I stuck that nigga up. Like you ain't never seen your life. I was like, yo, being wild, was up in there. I thought we stuck them up. The man gave us that money and jumped on a subway tree. Like nothing. He walked in the subway.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'm like, yo, this thing gave us this paper walked on the subway, 12 midnight. But I know the feeling because you've been doing shit so much for a dollar. Yeah. Or $2. Motherfucker give you a real check. You feel like, who did we go out? What do we got to do? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Because there ain't nobody giving us no shit for nothing. Legitly in the hood. I was riding around the hood with like 200 bands in a, in a duffel bag, straight 57 moment, went to the car place, looking in the Mayback, Caz. First week out, pushing a Mayback in the hood. Straight out the trailer part. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 That's jake. We got to clap that up for that. You know, that's what we all are. We all about big life. We all about celebrating life. We all about, let me tell you. something. Ain't nothing like that feeling when you get that first whip from rapping and you're on
Starting point is 00:22:06 a freeway and you just by yourself like man, it's my shit. It's real good. Good. You know, for me, that was like when I caught that vaccine for COVID, I was stuck in that house for a year and a half. And when they gave me that vaccine,
Starting point is 00:22:23 I was like, looks like we made it. I thought I was going to die. Diggas was dying in the hood so much. So they gave you that vaccine. I ran over there so fast. I had my hand out to some roof like, looks like we made it. But I know the feeling,
Starting point is 00:22:42 and there's nothing like doing something legit. Yeah. There's nothing that we all made money, you know, illegally, but legit. There's nothing like it feels good, and you and you're in your car, and you feel like damn, and that's what life's about.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Breaking all my mom and my grandma. You what? Breaking on my mom, first thing I did was buy her car. You know, let me tell you the next thing. You're going to buy your mother a house. Yeah, that's coming. That's where it's at. Yo, today's show is brought to you by our presenter sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, Florida's Sportsbook.
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Starting point is 00:26:20 podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. he became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected.
Starting point is 00:27:02 The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant.
Starting point is 00:27:28 This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of He Said She Said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm in a intellect Lamova.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated. And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing in protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia at Martin's Almemata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die.
Starting point is 00:28:30 In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let me tell you something. I did a lot of things. I just told you, and I'm not bragging about a $10 million check.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I used to fly private planes like it was a tax. I used to be like, we want Puerto Rican food. Let's go to Puerto Rico. Like, it was a joke. I'm just spending all kind of money, 40 niggas with me, lobster and stakes, buying 30 niggas, trucks, cash, this, this.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I did all that shit. When I caught the tax problem, and I had to sell everything, and I had to do whatever I had to do, I had to give the government back millions of dollars and pay my lawyer. It was one thing untouchable. It was called my mother's house.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I would have sold every piece of jewelry, every art, every house, every sneaker, everything you ever seen the fucking toothpaste to pay them back. Don't talk about my mother's house. And my mother's house wasn't even that special, guys. It was a nice little regular house that I bought for my mother and my father. But I remember every single time I pull up to my mother's house, I felt like
Starting point is 00:30:06 even to this day my house is mad bitch right and I used to pull up to my mother's house just last year because she passed away and I felt like
Starting point is 00:30:17 that was the biggest house the biggest shit I ever did in my life I was sitting in front of the house and be like wow my mom's got a house you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:30:27 that's the biggest shit praise God you put your mother and father some shit yeah it's just bought him a kind of He screamed at you for buying it for me. This is an accountant. His father's his.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Fobb's crazy. Fuck you for buying it. But okay, thanks for the keys. I saw a lot. You know what I say? Lefty, I see you in the studio. Yeah. Crazy bone.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I was just with game last night. No doubt. Shut up. What's your process like in the studio? I like to write from scraps. I like to hear the beat, right from scraps. I've been in the studio with Mike and Cheese,
Starting point is 00:31:05 fresh, got storage. There's a problem. You work? Yeah. This is right from scratch, write my story. And you, when can we expect so? Man, I'm dropping soon. I got enough songs for an album.
Starting point is 00:31:20 We're going to go to New York. Tell you right now, nobody going to give you that shit like Scott Storch. Nobody. Not for what you want. Not for that L.A. that still Drey. He remained me the big... All that his shit. This is how we do.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Fucking Scott Storch did that. Yeah, he remained me the Big Eagles beat. He did all that, huh? Yeah. He's challenging. He's a gym. That didn't give you that shit. Ooh, if you got that, Scott Stores
Starting point is 00:31:44 going to be right in the pocket for you, I'm telling you. That's, that's, we got studio time with him tomorrow. Oh, that's a no-brainer. That's right there. He's going to give you that. Yeah, they just hit me from the studio was Roddy Rich in Scott Stor's.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Roddy Rich is a motherfucker beast. Yeah, Roddy called me. He's all like, man. He's doing it for the culture, bro. I'm like, you got to link up. I'm like, for sure. Roddy Rich don't do that Roddy Rich hit them shit
Starting point is 00:32:09 out of the park Yeah yeah Roddy Rich He's a He's a fucking incredible guy He's a genius man You know
Starting point is 00:32:17 So that should be great You him and Scott Storch I see you put Storch With Roddy Rich I've seen him in the studio With him the other day That's great Man
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah That shit I'm gonna make them gangster Niggas He's gonna make them gangston niggas They're gonna hot That shit Boy he's gonna give you that
Starting point is 00:32:35 That documentary Listen You said Mike Dukes He said hit boys He said all that Nobody's gonna get to that Tomorrow
Starting point is 00:32:45 Tomorrow we got hip boys Scott storage Fresh Bankrogati All like four producers In one studio You know That's fine
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah That's fun Not an expectation You gonna give me that Fuck That is black Psycho maniac This
Starting point is 00:33:01 That's what My mom's Latino My mom was married to Marmal in. My dad's white, but he left me when I was two. He moved to Florida. And recently, I was in Florida the other day, and he came and convinced me, and I didn't even recognize him, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Wow. So you think after you got successful, we came to visit you? Yeah, because ever since I've been successful, I've been out of jail. So I've always been in jail my whole life. Did you forgive him for leaving you at two years old? Yeah, I passed it up, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. I feel like every boy, every man needs their dad. Like anybody who tells you that you don't need your dad. What about the girls? Huh? What about the girls? Yeah, the girls too. But what I'm saying is you need a father figure, man, to straighten you out to make you go the right path, to be there for you when you need a man in your life. That's why I joined the hood because I didn't have one.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I looked at the homies for that good job, you know. That shit felt good, getting in front of the homies. So I was putting in so much work, you know, good job, good job, good job. You know, chasing a father figure, that's what led me in the gang bang so much. And I realized, you know, I got to do something different. Why are they happy for you or the homies? In the beginning of, it was like my second day out of prison. The humming gave me a strap, boom, you know, gave me some money.
Starting point is 00:34:36 and he's like, come on, let's ride. I'm like, now, I'm going to stay right here. You what? I said, I'm going to stay home real quick. I was too embarrassed and telling him that I'm going to be a rapper, you know? And then, like, a week out, I told him, I'm going to be a rapper. He's like, you're going to be a rapper. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to be a rapper.
Starting point is 00:34:51 He's like, man, you fucking tripping, bro. You were loke in the hood. You know, you're one of them once. And I was from my hood, but I followed my dream. And then once it worked out, they've seen it, you know, and now they embraced it. You know, I feel like I'm the first slot. They really opened the door for Latinos out here in LA to think their rapping is cool.
Starting point is 00:35:11 And I do it my own way. Like I don't use the N-word, like, you know, just out of respect, you know, for the culture. And, you know, I'm paving my own way, you know. Respect that. You know, what's crazy is I started rapping. I got a famous album. So two million records with his course. jealous one still envy.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And I was out here, probably with Steve Lobel. We started a promo tour. This was Flo Joe, my first record. And we did Arsenio Hall. Okay? Arsenio Hall was the biggest shit in America. Sat up to stretch Armstrong. He invited me there.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Our senior hall was like, yo, we got fat Joe in the house. So I went up there and I performed. I quit the whole promo tour to get back to my block because Alcena was just to be with my boys and be like, yo, I did it. So I remember I went back to New York the very next day.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I pull up to my block in the cab and it's five of my best friends that I grew up since kindergarten. I'm looking this way. And I jump out the car, yo! And I'm jumping up and down. And when they turned around,
Starting point is 00:36:32 three of them had a jealous face. The other two were jumping up and down like me and three of them was looking like... Fucked out of it. That's the first time I ever experienced jealousy. And that's where the name of that album, Jealous Ones, Envy, a Jealous One still Envy came from
Starting point is 00:36:52 because this game, it comes with a lot of envy. That hoodsh is going to get secured. And I know that, you know, I realize that so you got to find a balance between it. But I see through all the fake love, you know, now since I'm successful, there's some of them that are happy of me, and there's some of them I know they be talking shit, you know? Aside you show them with success, my thing is, who cares, right?
Starting point is 00:37:21 God chose you, you sober, you can see. Yeah. If fat Joe was to get high, I'd be dead broke right now. I'm not kidding you. I'm not lying. And the direct correlation between guys who make it and become successful and guys who don't
Starting point is 00:37:42 is drugs. And that's the difference. So when I look at Netflix and I see a new documentary by Eddie Murphke and starts in a $90 million mansion and he's sitting in there with shit to the sky and this and this now,
Starting point is 00:37:57 you look at him and say, you know, I never got high. They were sniffed with coke. in front of me. They was doing whatever. I ain't do that. That's why he's in the $90 million mansion. And then when you see motherfuckers, you be like, damn, man, this guy was the greatest, this guy was the best, this guy
Starting point is 00:38:12 he ain't got shit. Not how you started, how you finished? How he's finished? Yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is this, we got a guy, we got one of my idols, right, and salsa music, I think the best salsa singer of all time is called Hector Lavo. Hector Lavo, the cantante. They made a movie
Starting point is 00:38:30 about him Cola Contanta, Jayneau and Mark Anthony. Mark Anthony, who probably is the second greatest
Starting point is 00:38:37 Sa Sasinga ever of history. Some people say the first. Yeah. One day I happened to bump into him
Starting point is 00:38:44 and the man said, yo, he was doing the movie, Hector Laval was still alive. So he went
Starting point is 00:38:50 to his apartment in Spanish Harlem and said that the man was like, yo, I had it all apartments with
Starting point is 00:39:00 Three floors, gold blacks on the wall, Cadillacs, this, this, dad. Look at me. I don't have nothing. Mark Anthony was telling me this story with tears in his eyes. He was like, yo, this was my idol, and he was fucked up. And he was telling me that he used to be that nigger. He used to have that house, that he used to have that. But when he got on heavy drugs, it was over.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah. So just know that. anybody. I'm gonna keep it a buck and I can get backlash for it all I want. Don't let a woman gas you into using drugs again. Just don't. Because you're some of the greatest. Scott Storch lost
Starting point is 00:39:42 $90 million because a girl who's the most famous girl in the world, he was fucking with Bro. Brought a girl with him. Another famous girl and said, yo, we're going to minage. Who?
Starting point is 00:39:58 But sniff this. Who? I can't. But Scott Storcey took that sniff and it fucked this whole life up. He lost $90 million fucking with that. He got it back, though. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:40:12 No. He got eight back. Same thing with all. He got about six. What's the Baldwin, brother, that fuck this whole shit up? I think he's Hailey Bieber's father. Alec Bohan.
Starting point is 00:40:23 No, Alex Baldwin, he shot the guy. That's another ball way. The handsome one. He used to hang out with us in the Bronx and Jimmy. this guy went on CNN, you could Google it and said he was fucking with Madonna. I'll give you that one because he said it. I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Stephen Baldwin went on CNN. He used to come to Jimmy's with us every week. Fly nigger. Original Jimmy's Ross Cafe in the South Bronx. For him, he obviously was busy high around that time. I don't fucking know, but he was.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah, Steve. He got the same name. He's been fired him for me for me. He tells his story. He was hanging out with Madonna. Same thing. She told him you want to fuck. Take this cocaine and to fuck this whole life.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And that all the Baldwin brothers are you supposed to be... You sure about that? It's on CNN. Google. I miss him. I just got to protect you. I was with Danny Trejo yesterday.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Two days ago, Danny Trejo and... He's a fucking legend. He was telling me, like, you got the world in your hands. You know what's going to happen if you go out of it. this way.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And you know what's going to happen if you go this way. So I don't want to be riding in Pelican Bay. You know, so I've been going to recovery meetings with him, you know, putting in work for the community,
Starting point is 00:41:40 trying to get back. Yeah. Beautiful. What's the name of your album? You got a name yet? Fountain Blue. Fountain Blue. Why Fountain Blue?
Starting point is 00:41:50 That's the name of my trailer park. Kind of like 8 miles. No doubt. You know what I'm saying? That's fine. He puts a whirl to him. Yeah. What's the one thing
Starting point is 00:41:59 you want people to remember no lefty gun play for. For being one of the ones open the door for the Latinos, you know, putting off the culture, black and brown unity. Hopefully I'll get my own
Starting point is 00:42:10 grab me in my own name and just keep giving back, you know, like Nip, you know? The way Nip did, I really want to get back to the people, you know? I don't think I'm better than nobody. You know, I want to get back to the city and all the kids
Starting point is 00:42:23 and make a difference. Make some noise for that. Just know, but this ain't that. That ain't. This, cracking kiss. Take some noise for lefty gunplay, baby.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Thank you. Appreciate you. Any new music or all platforms, get it. Anything he does, make sure you support him. Breaking boundaries. In that space, baby. We out there doing the right thing.
Starting point is 00:42:55 We got to support him. Yeah. All of L.A. All the world. The world. The whole world. It can happen. Unified.
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