Joe and Jada - Ne-Yo on new COUNTRY album, Beyoncé collabs, Michael Jackson & Prince stories

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by pop and R&B superstar Ne-Yo. Joe and Jada ask the three-time Grammy Award winner about his recent foray into the country music genre, writing "Irreplaceable" by Beyoncé and a slew of Rihanna records, his incredible stories with Michael Jackson and Prince, signing to Jay-Z's Def Jam after writing the smash hit "Let Me Love You" by Mario, why Brian McKnight and Boyz II Men made him take music serious, and his top five songwriters in music.3:30 - "Irreplaceable" by Beyoncé 5:30 - Ne-Yo brought a gift! 8:00 - Joe got finessed by Vegas Dave 11:30 - Jada saved the day for Ne-Yo in Jamaica 13:45 - Giving Brian McKnight his flowers 16:15 - Ne-Yo hung up on Michael Jackson 20:15 - Prince's approval changed everything for Ne-Yo 29:00 - When the label set Fat Joe up to fail 39:30 - Why it's HARD to pick the single 44:00 - How much do the Grammys mean? 46:30 - Joe is Joe-zempic for Halloween every year 54:00 - Ne-Yo's 4 girlfriends 58:00 - Fat Joe learns about Alaskan King Beds 1:01:45 - Top 5 songwriters of all time 1:04:15 - Fat Joe SWEARS he's cool with Babyface 1:09:00 - Ne-Yo PREMIERES "Simple Things" on Joe and Jada [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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be lines through the crowd, straight to me, he comes on to me, he says, Labor Skill is a good album, don't let nobody tell you different, and walk on it. Wow. And from that moment, I was like, you know what? I don't give a damn what the critics say. I don't care what nobody say.

Prince said it's good. It's good. I'm good. Yo, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack to Dawn. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show.

iconic, and so forth and so on. Ladies and gentlemen, today, we want you to give it up for our brother, triple threat artists, great human being. I can keep going on for hours of the good characteristics of this brother here. Make some noise for my man, Neo! Leo, I'm her. Love and respect, love and respect. What's going on, yeah?

So you're our first country artists on the couch. Because it's obvious. Country inspired. Country inspired. I do that. I feel like it's disrespectful for me to call it a country album. You got a fucking sombertoe on right now. What are you fucking talking about?

Everything's connected. So that's why I'm trying to like. But you know he ain't, you know what they do. Got a platinum pin rush for it. It's like I didn't even want to look up the stats, right? because it's just too much. But if I looked into the Neo bag, it would definitely end up at Beyonce.

Yeah, man. You know, what's that like working with the queen and penning something up for her? Not only that, something iconic. Yeah, man, that was, that's one of the ones. I'll say this, though. The session is selling what the song is. Talking about Beyonce is irreplaceable.

Yeah, that's, yeah, I'm sorry. Still, you know, I still ain't, I still ain't spent all that. Still ain't tough that. It's different. But I'm used to going in the studio and having to kind of hold artist's hand, so to speak. You know what I'm saying? All right, here's the next note. All right, here's the next part, do this part, do that part.

Man, I ain't ever felt so useless in my damn life we're going to be honest. She ain't need me for nothing. I'm like, all right, I'm going to get some coffee. You got it. She got it. She knocked that song out about an hour by herself. like I wasn't needed I wasn't needed

but I wasn't mad at it got country vibes to it it do I kind of wrote it like like a country song because when I first wrote it was no drums on it was just the guitar part so I kind of wrote it like kind of like a country song because I've always I've always appreciated country music because it's like

it's storytelling you know what I'm saying it's like you got to be clever with the lyric and country music so I always always had an appreciation for that that's kind of why I'm doing the album that I'm doing again country inspired I don't feel like I can call it a country album in that I'm not a full-fledged country artist.

Like, I feel like that's disrespect for the cast that's been doing that for years and here I come on some. Yeah, I'm doing a country album. I'm like, nah, it's inspired by all the things that I love about country music. Yeah, coming soon, come in soon. Real quick, real quick, I don't walk in nobody's house

without a gift. Damn, we ain't got no, no, no, no, no. Me being here, me being here, y'all having me here is the gift. I appreciate that. Shouts to my man, Von. Smith. The name of the headline is Circa. So we got some burros?

So the gifts. That's love. You got no, no, guys. Oh, that's hard. Yeah, man. Yeah, Circa is the name with the lines. My man, Vaughn and his partner, they put that thing together. So, yeah, just, that's your appreciation for having me on.

I appreciate you. Oh, you see the next way? That color way. That's for fans who think we really going to win? It's not like that. They're like you, if you think the Knicks gonna win this shit, like, yo. It's a little wave you, we don't know. I appreciate it, man.

Out of pride. Appreciate you, I don't get nothing. Really? And we don't get nothing, nothing for Father's Day. We don't get shit for the, not even a fair socks. What does a guy who has four wives or four girls, do you receive a gift on Father's Day or birthday? You know what? I get gifts from my kids on Father's Day.

Father's Day, and that's enough. I don't necessarily... Do you get any... We just... But see, I don't need nothing. We get Birkenbags, all type of shit. We get socks. I don't even get that.

But see, I'm also... I don't need a gift. I don't even a good tube socket. My father, man... Slout across the Ford. My father lasted 89 years. He had this same complaint every year. You know, I don't get shit.

I got to buy flowers, chocolates, this. my father was like you know I ain't get shit why we can't get shit but but see in my household I don't have to lift a finger I don't got to cook I don't got to clean

I don't got to do much of nothing in my house because from between my kids and my women I don't I don't need no gifts I don't need to say like they sit though fucking like ice cream on the floor you can eat that shit off the floor

spotless that shit is like a drive-through drive-through that shit like the shit you know the shit that are they be marmalizing the offices and shit that shit got to be crystal clear now. Absolutely. Absolutely.

No, I'm good. I don't need gifts. Every day it's a gift in my crib. I get it. Now, me, I'm not going to lie to you. Like these hats, I swear to you, I'm going to wear it, and I truly appreciate it, because I don't get shit. I'm being honest with you. I don't get shit. I don't. Fat Joe don't get shit.

I'm being out. You got any one of you. Yeah, yeah. I'm just, yeah. What? I'm just chilling, man. We're having a nice conversation in, man. It's my God. He's the bag.

When you're talking about the bag, he's a very given person. I shot a video on a level four. He had these louis on him. I'm like, yo, I liked him. You did your old, I liked him trick, huh? No, I wasn't. This is before I liked him trick, huh?

I didn't even know him really. He did the O'I-L-I-L-I-L-I-L-E. He was really flexible. I had dinner with this guy, right? I had dinner with this guy, man. He's a gambling expert. What the fuck? And you hit him with the O-I-L-I-L-King?

Nah, he hit me with the Oopty Wopty. I had these newie-glass. Them shit was like, 5,000. Some fly shit. Every bite of the dinner. He was like, man, them class is really nice. Every bite. And I just kept this.

And I'm from the thing, like, if you compliment too much, now it's almost like the mirror's going to crack. Like, I'm like, yo, give me. to them or it's going to be bad black. I said these glasses, like 10 fucking tons. I said, yo, here you go, brother. Take them, man. Enjoy the glasses. It's not a problem. I never

find them glasses again. Vegas Dave hustle me for my shit. Yo. Vegas Dave, send the glasses back. Vegas Dave. Might send them back. It works sometime. Thank you for being the generous guy. I'm always be that. I'm always be there. I feel like you got

to be a blessing and receive a blessing. By the way, Catalyst's sputting me. When we did the college, and I kept saying, can I get a loan? That motherfucker never asked, you know? We eat James Brown, speak. You're the king of the spin. I just watched that episode.

James Brad. They said a whole lot of nothing. That motherfucker like the dragon from Graham of Thrones without the fire coming out of his mind. I'm like, huh? I'm looking at that shit because I got drunk. I fucked up. I got drunk with him and I don't drink.

And so it took me to see the shit to notice that I got spun. Like, I'm fucking, I'm like one of them Lou Noo dolls. What's up? The Lou Bellow shit. I was a little... I'm fucking outy. I was feeling a little nice. But when you asking that,

he took us all the way around Broward. He took us a record. I'm trying to get the man on record to say, Yo, Joe, I don't need a long. I just try to get him on record. He ain't go for it. He spun me to death. But, yo, Neo, man, you got a country album.

You know, everything you do is incredible. You know, everything. Last show I had with you. you, we was in, uh, what, the Cayman Islands. Yeah. And I felt like, you know what I'm saying? I was, I was watching you perform. I was like, and you're also, my wife's favorite singer.

I have respect. Right? You know, my mom's and pops that just passed away around the time we were supposed to do our birthday. You said you would do it. Gizi's her favorite rapper. He was coming to. But, um, and, and she just went to see Gizi, but he didn't do the song with Neo.

She was pissed. Uh-huh. The joint y'all got together? She was like, yo, he ain't do my song, man. She said, yeah. That shit right there. How many times you do a show and they say you ain't do their song? Oh, man.

Everybody's always. Every kid. Every's out here. Somebody. Like, why he didn't do this song that you never do? Mind you, it wasn't a single, the fourth album cut. Like, that's my favorite junk. Why you ain't?

Man, listen. Did you enjoy the show? All right, leave me alone. Damn, go on, man. It's a lot. It's a whole lot. My last show with him, we was in Jamaica. Remember, and something happened.

I had to save the day for you. You used my DJ. We was out there for some, it was one of the fessasters with a bunch of Jamaican artists and that had me and you and Buster was supposed to be there. Remember he canceled? I do. We was in that, okay.

We was in Montego Bay or somewhere. He was somewhere, and they were like, yo, Neo, this band, something happened? Could he say, yeah, you can rock with me? And that's how we got. Technician? He's in Jamaican. Technician?

Yeah, we used tech. Yeah, you know when I, you double-tipped him, huh? That's tech. He wore his fucking feet. He said, hey, you know, tech's making. Where you went to pay him, he said, two artists. Listen, tech's Jamaican. So he was living a life out there.

He had the chefs, the maids, he was eating, seven meals in the motherland. Yeah, he was tripped. I just came back from Puerto Rico I went to the Bad Bunny concert Did you feel like Cali? Like what? No, no, no. It was pheno.

You know what I'm saying? I don't see. I need the same in it. No, it was what you want me to say? I'm not going to do what Cali said. It was an incredible show. Super talented. The fucking aesthetics was crazy.

The vibe and port. When we landed on the plane, they said, no, the pilot was like, welcome to bad buddy. and the whole plane went crazy. Like, I never, like, that whole island, I heard he generated like 700 million for the island. And the whole theme of the show is based on, like,

gentrification of Puerto Rico, that grandmothers are selling their cribs. And, you know, and so he brought all that money back to the economy. It was really incredible. You know, I've been drinking a lot, lady. I drink in that motherfucker, too. I was saucy. I technically was a good time.

No, it's all right. Yeah, one of the things, I said, you know I got to drink some shit. You know I got to drink a lot. Yeah, get him. That water, baby. You already know you got it.

But incredible, phenomenal show. One of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life. And then the next day, I snuck into that Brian McKnight show. When's the last time? You've seen Miami Night before. You've seen that man in the wild.

He was in Puerto Rico? Nah, he was in Jersey, you see? I snuck in the Englewood Theater on the low. Well, you shot back right at the band? Right back. seen Brian McKnight. He was like, anytime to run and reading out for me.

I would have loved this scene. Yo, this guy, like, where he's been at? They've been at hockey. I don't know, but the only artist I've seen, the only artist I've seen vocally sing like that in years was like Luther Vangor's.

This guy really scary. Like, he sneaking, next time you, he's in the city, you were just sneak in the back. You're going to be like, This guy's fucking, he caught a body on Broadway, this guy. Brian McNight. That's Brian McNight.

Yeah, man, man. I grew up on Brian McNight. Brian McKnight, Boyston, man, that was kind of the era of music that I, like, really started taking music series. I wanted to be Wine Game Morris. I want to be in the group. You know what's crazy? I'm watching Brian McKnight the whole time. I'm saying, yo, this guy could have been in fucking boys to men.

The whole show, I'm watching, I'm thinking, you know, my music or whatever. know how we, it's tap in my brain. I'm like, yo, this guy could have been a fucking fourth member of boys to men easily. Like, yeah, man. He's a little bit older than boys. The era when it was, he's a little bit older than boys. Yeah, but what I'm saying is vocally and aesthetically, this guy could have been in boys to men. They did, they did one joint together.

It was a, it was a Christmas joint. Let us know, whatever. Let us know. Yeah. That's the only joint they ever did together, but that was a joint. That's true. That's crazy. Who do you think you line up with?

Like, if I just went to Neo Radio, what other artists would they play on Neo Radio? That's a good question. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Not saying that I'm on some level that's above anybody else, but I'm going to play some Michael Jackson on there. I mean, definitely so.

Definitely play my inspirations. Absolutely, yeah. Mike, Prince, you know what I'm saying? I grew up in Vegas, so, like, the rap act was a major, major thing for me. So you might hear some old Sammy Davis

Jr. on that thing, something like that. But yeah, the era where I like really started taking music series was Boyston Man, Brian McKnight, Jodicey before, you know, Drew Hill and all. Drew Hill. That whole word. I really started

like really started looking at like, I could do this for a living. It was able to meet MJ, right? Yeah, yeah. How was that? Man, Mike, it was it was weird. It was cool, but it was weird. Because it's like, so mind you, when they first set up the meeting

my assistant was supposed to call me before Mike called me to let me know the Mike that somebody gave Mike my number and he was going to call me. But Mike actually called me first. So when I picked up the phone and the Kara said, hey, we're doing that and this is Michael Jackson. I hung up immediately

because I thought somebody was going to me four times today. The bank kept calling from 855. I'm like, yo, bit, bit, bit. I'm next to my wife, the bits keep saying, hi. This is Jana. I'm like, yo, bitch. Don't we calling this fucking phone. right now.

I don't need no mishaps. It's me from TD Bank. I'm like, well, why you ain't say that shit? You call it from my 8-5-5? You're leaving with your first name. Hold on, Mom. No, not doing that. Who's that?

Don't know. What happened? So I hung up, and then my assistant called me like, yo, are you sitting down? Yeah, I'm something now. Michael Jackson, I'm about to call you in 10 minutes. I'm like, nigga Michael Jackson called me 10 minutes ago, and I hung up in his fit.

You almost fired. almost fired. You wanted to die that you... Man, I brought him up on Michael Jackson. Oh, my God. So anyway, so we got back on the phone. Did you apologize? No, I lied right away.

I lied. I'm like, yeah, it was a bad reception, bro. I was dropping under bridge and the joint just dropped. He sounded like Michael Jackson. He sounded like, hey, how you doing? I'm good. Who is this? It's Michael.

Michael who? Michael Jackson. Ah, cool, click. Nah. And then when you spoke to... How Michael Jackson is called him? Michael Jackson. Yeah.

Yeah. So first, I didn't know Mike was tall. Mike was like 6-2, 6-3. I didn't know that either. Or maybe he was tall in my head. I don't know. When he walked in the room, the nigg was 10 feet tall when he walked in the room. He got on a black suit.

He had on aviator sunglasses that was mirrored that he didn't take off the whole time. We was there for like an hour. He did not take the glasses off the whole time. And we sat, we talked about music. When he first walked in the room, he said, oh, my God, you know what my favorite song of yours is? And I'm like, favorite song of mine. Do you know what fuck? That's nice.

Favorite song of mine. That's nuts. It was nuts. It was nuts. But what was his favorite song of yours? Uh, uh, go on, girl. Please don't worry about me, I'm fine. That joint.

And he sang it. And I turned it to a 12-year-old girl instantly. I kept it in, though. I, I, I, like, that's, that's dope. No, no, no, I cry. Man. You know, Michael Jackson, I probably, I probably, he's one of the guys. If Michael Jackson walked in here, I was going to ask him,

did he drop his flat? You know, they say, they say Michael was a, was a gang member. I don't know if he dropped his flag. before he met you or not was he kept right no some people say

I've heard they Michael Jackson was a gang he said Michael for the 60s right you don't say he was a gang member no another flag

I need proof it's a picture floating around him doing something I've seen it I seen it yo let me tell you something I would have cried if I would have met Michael Jackson

he's the one guy would have cried. Like, I just, I, I ain't going to lie to you. It's like, he was from out of another, another. Yeah, man. Like, he was other, like, never be another. People said, yeah, because my favorite rapper, fat Joe, my friend, it's different. You see Michael Jackson.

Man, listen. You fucking want to die. You see, and so you work with him in front of Michael Jackson, and can't nobody even make fun of you. It's like, it's Michael Jackson. How you don't, like, I kept, I kept the chat. Somebody cares your life, you crying from the mic. The only reason I did, guys, because I felt like, I, he probably get this all the time.

let me try to, let me try to, my composure. But it was cool. We said, I talked about music. We, uh, we actually started working on some stuff that he was supposed to record after the, uh, the, The This Is It tour was old. You know, he passed before we got a chance to do it. So, you know, about Prince. Prince, man.

So Prince saved my life. And I, he don't realize. Wow. But, uh, so after, year the gentleman was like my best, my best seller album, I won Grammys for that album. And then right after that, we did Lieber scale. Right. Lieber scale, I just got off for, I did like two movies.

So I kind of had the movie bugs. So I went to the label like, yo, so I want to do like a 30-minute mini-movie and like let the album be the soundtrack to the movie. They was like, oh, yeah, that's dope. That's dope. Who's going to write the script? I got it. I'll take care of it.

Mind you, I don't know shit about writing scripts. I'm not to write a song. I'll write a script. So they're like, all right, 30 minutes. All right, cool. So I bring them the script. So in the world are writing scripts, a page equates to a minute. So 30 pages is 30 minutes.

My script had 145 pages in them. Yeah. And they was like, well, nigga, it ain't nothing. Many of money. Nah,

this ain't going to work. So I had to bust it down to 30, right? Basically, long story, short, the album came out. It was kind of

all over the place. The story was weird. Like, people didn't get it. The album didn't do well at all, right? So I was kind of down because, like,

we had just came off the high of year the gentleman, and then it was like, eh, like the shit, we went double glass. Anyway,

so that year, we got invited to Prince's Grammy Party. He used to throw a Grammy party up a year. So we go to the party And mind you, I'm in there And I'm excited because we had

Princess join, but at the same time, I'm like bummed out. It's like, man, I'm not doing well. It recently had just dropped the album? We had just dropped the album. The album came out, didn't do the numbers. You know what I'm saying? The singles was kind of moving, but not really. Like, it was a bad way.

It was a bad way. So we go to the party and we're standing there and like, I'm there, but I'm not there. Prince's, it's in a pool house at Princess House. So, like, everybody's standing on top of the pool. It was like a plexiglass. shit on top of the pool, and everybody's partying on the pool. He's in the corner with his band, he's jamming, right?

They just playing whatever. He sees me, puts his guitar down, B-lines through the crowd, straight to me. It comes on to me, he says, Labor Skill is a good album, don't let nobody tell you different, and walked on it. And from that moment, I was like, you know what? I don't give a damn what the critics say. I don't care what nobody say. Prince said it's good.

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My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that you all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.

Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes. Then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways. Disappearances. Legendary heists. The whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself.

My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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You know how that thing, though. I'm asking, though. They're there for all the celebration when things go well and when things go bad is your fault. Let me tell you something. You know how to go. I had an album went double platinum, jealous one still win. They had a fucking picture of me six stories high in the Atlantic records.

The fucking picture was six stories high. They, I'm tough, no, they swapped it out for TI. I'm not going there. What I'm going is they gasped me to put out an album in Christmas time with Mariah Carey, J.Z, Miss E. Eliot, this, this. Well, they're doing you in the traffic with all Lamborghini. Super gas me. And I'm over here.

I'm over here telling them, yo, this is a bad idea. This is a this. I don't think you think we're going to sell like Missy. We're going to sell like Jay's. You're the big guy, fourth quarter of this. I didn't know that back then they were getting paid on the shipping. So if your last album sold $2 million, they shipped $2 million.

They get paid already. So whether you sell 10 records or 20, like that album that went double glass, they made their money. Yeah. They shipped that a million. They always make their money. They always make their money. So my point is, when the shit flop, maybe like a month later,

the guy who insisted and gassed me, I'll say it, Craig Calvin, gas me to drop the album, I said to say it, gas me to drop that album. I saw him at, like, the MTV Music Awards, and I was like, yo, hey, Craig. And the man in real life got up, looked at me, and ran away from me like I had AIDS or HIV. I was like, Yo, Bray, he was like, mm-hmmker got up at it, like, and I realized at that point,

I see, yo, these people don't give a fuck. But it's the same guy I'm sitting on his couch telling him, yo, let's not drop, let's not this, you know, you know, as soon as that album flop, T.I. Post, went up. Shit crazy, man.

So that's why I'm asking you. That's how I go. No, you know what, though? I had, I had. Shit crazy. I had. They just thought of a good thing. You know this guy

this is the biggest guy? I'm like, because like, so Jay. It's crazy. This was right when Jay here became president over there. So it was Jay and Tata that was pretty much yeah through the whole recording

of pretty much all my shit. And like Tata is one of them niggas. He can't not keep it real. So like he, like he, like, Tata was a nigga and told me he was like, yo, I need you understand.

Nobody in the building believes that you're going to do anything. I just need you to know that. I need you understand that. With that album? No, well, we're our first album. Before the first album came out. Like they signed me and I,

I want to believe they signed me as a tax write-off because they didn't think it was going. Because he came to you. He was like, listen, I'm going to let you know now. You know, sitting around with all the A&Rs. Ain't nobody really, you ain't got too many people in your corner. I'm just let you know that. And I'm like, I couldn't do nothing but appreciate the fact that he kept it that written.

Shut out of the time. Well, who are the A&Rs? So my thing, I got a different type of like. Will you let him finish? He just finished. No, he didn't even distort. No, it's all. No, you finished, though.

Yeah, I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I can he finish that like that? I've been very patient. You, patient, three. I've been very patient. No, what I was saying was, I had one or two folks in the building that was actually

riding for me whether we won or lost. Like, Ty and Jay, they was good to me. You know what I'm saying? If it was a winner or lose, even through the Deliever scale situation, that was like, it's all right, we'll get them next time. They were, like, they was, they was... A hell of a two people to have it in the label. Damn straight, damn straight.

Exactly. It was good. It was good. My thing is, who the fuck is the A&R guys? Right? You know them? I don't know them. So you come in there, you create, you tell your life story, you make hit records, and they get credit.

I never like that shit. Man, I mean, I fucking never liked that shit. Every time a fucking artist comes out, say, Lizzo or Cardi B or whoever's the sensation some guy come stand next to them and takes the credit with them at the Grammys

that they don't even fucking know or they never even talked to, they never even saw them. They never, nothing. No recommendation, nothing. Staying up there like they did some shit. I never like that shit. Ever, somebody else taking credit. Beat up

A knowledge. No, I don't want to beat up nobody. I don't want to beat up nobody. I don't want to beat up nobody, but what I'm trying to tell you is I really want to know an A&R. Do a baby Rob Reef Tullos are one broken beats. See? Boy, how are you going to start finding?

No, no, no, no. A lot of A lot of good for the game. A lot of them is fucked up, but it's some good ones. I never had to help. It's some good ones. I don't know if you had to help. Tartai was my A&R. You made my first four album.

If somebody came and said she was a model for the year, they brought that beat? No. I mean, Pick did bring me to Virginia the Farrell's he didn't write that's my fucking word but he took me

to meet Ferrell so that's it he'd get the wrong he introduced you too I'll tell you like this the Beyonce record might not have happened if not for Tata

it might not have happened because I didn't write that record originally for Beyonce it's a bunch of records that went on Rihanna's album that I didn't write for Rihanna

but because Tata was always there like every time I was in the studio he was it I mean they set up like four days for Britney Spears room, right? It was a, yeah, she's gonna come in

and whatever, whatever. She never showed. Four days, she never showed. But every song that I wrote for her, Tata was there, he was like, yo, let me get a copy of that. And then two weeks later, he was like, oh yeah,

we gave that to Rihanna. Yeah, we get it to Beyonce. Yeah, we get that to this one or that one. So, like, he was, great. I'm not talking about Tata specifically. I'm talking about the world of A&Rs. A lot of these guys don't do shit and they got too much to say

about what the single is, how they know this. You know, how many things. times we've seen the artist come out, pure talent, blow up, and then all of a sudden the A&R try to start telling them what to do or what should they shoot or

how they should look or this, throw away this shit. My first deal is when I had my experience with kind of crappy A&Rs. So I got signed to Columbia. That was my first record deal. Like, a guy like you, right? You're so fucking talent. Imagine now we know the story.

now 20 years in your fucking super producer, super mega star, this, this, that. You start in the game. You got all this fucking talent. You know God gave you all this talent and somebody trying to direct you and tell you what it is and you're sitting here looking at them like, is this shit crazy?

But I was green though. I ain't know no better. I was just happy to have a deal. So like whatever they were telling me to do, I did it. Like, nah, don't write with these cats, right with these cans. Now I don't wear it at where it is type shit.

So like, we finished. the album for Columbia and I'm looking at the shit and I'm like I don't recognize a nigga on the cover I don't recognize the music like this ain't me this is who they want to

like they try to turn me to like baby Tyrese or somebody right so I went back into the label like yo is it cool if maybe I go in and you know cut one or two more records that kind of fit who I am and it was like well I mean we would let you but your budget is depleted

now I'm like at the moment at that time that was the most money I ever had in life so I knew where the money was going And I'm like, nah, this much studio time costs this, this cost that. We should have at least this left, right? That's when I learned that every time them castle flies to New York and take us to Mr. Childs and throw that credit card down. Yeah.

How about you flying them? Yeah. How are you flying them? Whenever they swipe that card, that was my budget. And I didn't know. And of course, they're not going to tell you. So, yeah, yeah, that was my first experience with A&R that just was on the take, basically. Now, listen, when you, from listening to you, he ain't listening.

For me listening to you, it sounds like a lot of the songs you wrote for people, you didn't write for people. It happened to, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It happens like that a lot, honestly. Like, you know, it's, you give somebody first write a refusal, and if they don't, if they don't see it, they don't see it. All right, but that don't mean the song is whack.

That don't mean you can't use it. So it'll go somewhere else. See, now, but they fucking J-Lo wrote that, well, at least half. That's what Faith said on the interviewer. I love you. It was J-Lo song. She passed on it and Faith kept it. And that shit turned into a fucking...

That's one of my favorite favorite. It's the hit in the world. That shit. I mean, that's how that shit goes. Especially for songwriting, you know, you don't know what the good thing that Tata did, he had your best interest because you need somebody in there passing it off. Like, I guess this is good.

This is smash. Yeah, yeah. You know, I did that, right? Yo, yo, yo! You already said. I did that. The album, the Usher, I'm going to give you two. The album that Usher did with Rico Love.

A lot of Enrico Super Producer, a lot of them songs I was in the studio with and Usher wasn't short. He was like, yo, I don't know this, this thing. And I'm like, yo, bro, this guy's the hottest guy in the game. I did the same thing with Kelly Rowland with the joint that Rico wrote for her because at the time she had like an EDM song that was done. She was about to go all the way over there.

She was like, I'm going EDIM. And I'm like, yo, you know, you know, you're that's this child. You know, the hit was right. It was so much of a hit. I was like, yo, this, you're crazy if you're not cutting this. This is a smash hit.

You know, and sometimes people want to get a little outside voice to say, all right, man, maybe I should fuck with it. Yeah, yeah. And they fuck with it. You know, there's certain hits that I did that I ain't like because to me, they were like sellout hits. Like, I just knew it was going to be a hit. Like, you know, when you manufacture a hit, there's a way to manufacture a hit.

Yeah, yeah. To be like, there's a formula. This is the sound. This is the formula. Get the homie on the hook. Get this. And it's a hit. And I never liked it

because I felt like I was cheating the system. Label way. I never forget. They gained to see me. It was like, yo, you need it. American standard instructions of it. I did do it pretty much. Step one, step two.

But you feel like you cheated the game? I mean, me, I mean, thank God. I still make money to this day off of it. But I felt like I cheated the game when I did. When I did something like shit, we're number one. Two. So you have an ear. You have a, you can hear it when something is.

is going to be like the one. Now let's go back to Craig Calman. The only real shit he ever said to me was he said, you're not Beyonce. He said if you put out a song. That was the only real shit he ever said to me was you not Beyonce. If your song doesn't do good,

there isn't the next song. Well, it's crazy because you got that fucking hat on. I remember I walked in Atlanta. I told Atlantic, I'm fucking up the whole. office. I walked in there. All 5,000 employees was out the building. That shit was like,

tumbleweezed. I said, I'm going in there because they didn't want to shoot that video, and then I got up to that. Terror Squad Fat Joe, I'm beating everybody up in the office. Five o'clock I'm walking in that shit was a ghost town. Only one guy stood

there, man. The rest of peace, Ronnie Johnson, man, he's trying to explain it to him. You said, Joe, we told you that if the record don't do good, you can't do it. So basically they were like, yo, look, you got one shot. If it hits, you get another one. So I had to almost train my ears

like I was a program director to know what they would play on a Sunday in South Carolina. I knew I would play these songs and be like, yo, they'll play this shit in South Carolina or Arizona, so I had to train myself and I knew if I didn't,

if it wasn't a hit, I'm fucked. So... See, that's a skill in itself. Like, I don't have that. Like, I'll be so close to the music that I can't hear the one. Shout to my man, Tango. Tango is my manager. Been my manager for 20 years.

When I first met this, nigga, he didn't have a radio in his car, talking about I'm a manager music career. He doesn't even listen to music. He's like, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know music, I don't know products, and I know people. And I'm like, I, and to this day, every single that I've had that went, Tango was like, it's this one. And mind you, it'll be shit like, like, Nick, I spent five days on this record.

This one I did in, like, 20 minutes. he was like, bro, it's that one. And sure, closer. I did not believe in closer. I didn't think the closer was for me. I literally wrote it to sell it. It was Tango and Jay-Z that was like, yo, keep that shit. Trust me. Keep it.

We put the joint out for the first three months, nothing. Nobody gave a fucking, they didn't get it. To the point where we went to the lay, we went to the label, L.A. re called us in on some, yo. I think it's time to switch singles. Before I walked into L.A. office, Jay was like, yo, L.A. about to tell you get off that record. Do not get off that record.

But even I was like, bro, this shit, it ain't working, man. Why would we? Like, yo, trust me, stay on that record. All right. So we stayed on the record. We did the BET Awards that year. After that performance, that moment, we never looked back. Those is the day.

But I don't have, everybody, what's the recipe for a hit? I couldn't tell you. I'm going to get in the studio and do it feel good to me and then hand it off to the folks that had that ear like that because I don't got that. Like, don't let me pick the single. That's crazy. You're going to be ready to lie-ass album hits for me.

You can't, you got... I don't know, well, I can't pick the... It's what feel... I go off of what feels good to me. You know what I'm saying? That's as far as I can take it. I don't know this audience is going to do this and that on that.

That's a whole other skill set that I just... I don't do that part. I'm going to cut the record, and then I'm going to pass it off to the person that goes, ah, yeah, this is for this market. That's for that market. Like, realize it my job makes to sell records.

My job is to make music. So I'm going to make the music. and then give it to the person whose job of it for the record. That's, that's how it works. 15 Grammy nominations. Yeah, I'm not.

Three Grammy wins. How does that feel? It feels good, but at the same time, when you wanted to have double-digit grammings, you know what I mean? So it's like, I got more work. But it's also, you know, Stevie, boy.

You brought up a thing. Got no grin. Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder is the last American. They got no grammars, dude. Huh? There's a lot of people with no grame. I ain't got,

no Grammys why you try to get that's it that's the shit yo your man's your man be pow like on the yeah I ain't got shit what but I didn't say you what you should say he said he's mad at three I said he didn't keep him oh no I ain't mad at I got mixed feelings about I got what works to do I got mixed feelings about the Grammys um yeah it would be great to have a Grammy uh I don't like that when someone dies they immediately Grammy nominated or Grammy Award what makes Grammy

holyer than thou like what makes that word Grammy like any artist dies from any genre to go Grammy winner Grammy winner what is it what like and who are they

because they get it wrong all the time like you think what what song you had I can tell you minds what song you had that you lost that you lost a grand

that you knew for a fact you should have won. Oh, come on. Me and Pitbull, time of our line. No, no, no, not time of my life. Give me everything. Give me everything. Was the song of Six Summers? And because we didn't turn it in on time,

we didn't get, we wasn't eligible for grammar. How crazy is that? I just did a song, a show with Pitt two days ago, and they had people with boreheads in the fucking crowd. I thought it was attacking the aliens. That's like his merchandise. Oh, yeah, yeah, you buy some shit.

Right? And they looked like fucking. aliens. I say, yo, I'm too far from home for the aliens to attack. Fresno, California. I got to be in the bronze shooting shit up. I can't be out there. They're going to turn me into the Vato Loco.

Shit, I was like, you know, I'm too far from home for all these alien motherfuckers in the crowd. Like that shit, bud? His merch is bald heads. That you put over your head. Yes. Like the scar. Like the scar. You get like the sleet stacks and shit like that. Your shit all the way like

it's weird. That's what they bought the shit Yeah Yo, when you become a Halloween costume That's when you know you made it Man I'm Oseptic I'm like you selling them joints for

Every Halloween I'm O Zepic I don't know But the crowd ain't Halloween I'm O Zepic Every Halloween Oh you put the box So you cut the thing You got the soap right

I'm O Zepic Every year I'm Joe Zippet I'm battling You talk about country I'm battling your jelly roast skinny like a motherfucker man look you seen jelly bro lately not lately no fucking sex symbol he up there he's taking my slot right now pause pause

oh shit he was just recently on cacin not's mafia though yeah man what was that experience like um the young jeeps i mean i i felt like the old I really did. It was cast in that it literally didn't know who I was. I had a t-shirt on with Neo on the t-shirt, not me, but Neo from the movie in Matrix. And the nigga didn't know who that was.

I'm like, yo, how old are you, well, what was in there? With candy gardenish? He was like, he was like 15, 16. I'm like, God. He, all right. But now, it was cool. It was cool.

Because Kai is like, like, you could tell he got, like, dude got a marketing and business mind, for real. doesn't work like he's serious with that but it was a cool situation like i've done you know to sit down on the couch and the studio audience and all of that and the you know it's all organizing shit but in there it's like whatever he think he gonna say it whatever the little niggas behind him think they're gonna just say it and that's just and what's got to rock with it that's what people are not understanding people from my era are not understanding now these young

kids don't give a fuck about you and iG with your filter with your they don't want the fake shit They want to fuck up in front of him on a stream. They want to see if it's real or not. If you're diss and this and that. All that fake shit that you could stage shit and shit like that. There's no longer. The motherfucker took homeboy the world's fastest man. They nigger had.

He had movies with him chasing guerrillas and fucking shit that your man on what speed. I blew his fucking ankles off in front of every. They don't want the face shit no more. They are not going for the fake shit. These young kids, they want to know. right. You could do it. You could do it.

Yeah. Hey, if you didn't do it, nice try. But we know the real shit. That's what the stream shit is all about. But I'll tell you one thing about Kassanah. They're all young, but they all know to book, Leo, Kim Kardashian. Yeah. All the people of our age group is on there, Kevin Hart, Snoop.

They're not fucking dumb. They know who got the real fans that tune in. So they could play all that young shit. They all tapping into that culture, too. Real, real, real. You know what I mean? So don't think we ain't there. Eh.

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Do you buy... Is it like Muslim? Do you got to buy the same bag for the same... Like, you know what? Mine is... You definitely got to have a bag to have four wives. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, well...

Okay, it's... There's a mindset that the woman has to have in order to be able to share men. You know what I'm saying? And, like, it's literally got to, she literally got to think a different way. If you got four women that want burking bags, you got the wrong four. Like, straight. So they got a different mentality.

It's a, it's community, it's family, it's just like everybody doing something. It's like, it's like a village where everybody do something. Everybody got a job, you know what I mean? If you're the only person taking care of everything, you're doing them, that's not how I'm supposed to go. Everybody's supposed to kind of pitch in together. Like, I have seven kids on my own. You know, one of them got a daughter, a other one got two kids.

And it's like, okay, so I don't have seven kids. I got nine kids. And that's fine because we all come together like, this one's washing dishes, this one's changing diapers if we need be, this one's doing that. Everybody does. You did it's a traditional way.

Yeah, right? I got to do, how'd you, how'd you, did you have to do an interview? How the hell did you know? How did you do this? Was you on tour just like, She could be part of the family. She could be like,

how did you do it? How did you do it four times? So, okay, so after my divorce, you know, my very public, very ugly divorce, I realized that just through being dishonest, I heard a lot of people. I heard a lot of people. And I decided at that moment,

I don't never want to be a reason. Nobody showed like, really? So from that moment, I was like, I'm just keep it a buck with everybody, about everything, be a good, bad, ugly, whatever, I'm gonna keep it a buck. I don't ask me if the dress make you look fat, if you don't really want to hear the asses.

Because I'm gonna tell you, straight up, right? So one of the ones that we've been around a little longer than the other ones. So I basically just sat down, like, listen, you know I rocked with you. We've been rocking for forever. Through this, through that, we've been rocking. I love you.

I do. But it ain't just you. I'll also rock with this one, and this one. So a man could love more than one woman. Absolutely. Absolutely. I just want him to say, Yo, Jayne, I'm throwing you out this motherfucker.

Yo, Jayne, let them answer the fucking question. I didn't say nothing. You ain't got four a while. You ain't got four wives. But the man answered a question. You ever seen somebody interrupt and didn't tell you to be quiet. Because you're like, you can love more than, you can love more than one woman. You can not say.

Marry men won't say that. This is this shit men won't say. They can't. But you got four, so that's how it goes. What do we call that in America? It's polygamy Real shit It's polyamory

If you're not married It's polygamy if you're married And polygamy is illegal In a lot of America So it's polygamy So it's polymers You know, I woke up one day A lot of bark

And a lot of pink horsepower In the cabinet Oh, listen First of all me Fucking rock a boon I'm abused I'm abused Like I'm lyrically abused

Some of my friends Come to the house They fucking They're going like candles For me Like I'm sitting there Like Al Bundy Like, ah, I'm like, watch the TV.

It's very hard to get me upset. But for them doing that shit at the same time? But see, you don't happen like that. They don't happen like that. Because I'm very, very, very adamant about drawing a line in the sand. It's like, listen, I'm going to let you say what it is you need to say. But once we start going here, you lost me anyway. So you might as well not.

When I was thinking about asking you his question, I'm thinking, so what you got, like a giant bed, like a big fucking jacking? Last new king. Alaskin King, that's, I need that thing. Y'all Alaskin King is like, Yo, Gris, book me in the Alaskin King. Like only two double kings together. Like, promoters, double kings?

Yeah, I get together. I only think I heard of California and something else. I heard it, I never heard of Alaska. I never heard of no shit like that. Alaskin only had crabbed me. Fat Joe, deserved an Alaskin king. Yeah, yeah. That show deserves an Alaskan king.

I can shoot you a number. Because, mind, you can't buy in Alaska King. You got to get it made. You got to get somebody to make it. They got to come in there and build it. They got to build it. They got to build it. It's like a giant bed.

Yes. Yo. It's about eight comfortable. Yo! Yo! You're an inspiration, Neil. You're an inspiration, Neil. I like it.

I like that. We're going to live vicariously through you. That's it. And I hopes it works out. everything is good man everything is good again we have problems just like just like monogamous relationship all that shit is real you're gonna argue over stuff but again at the end of the day as long as you are head of household and everybody understands that then arguments don't last on like you know i'm again let you get it out and let you say what you got to say i'm gonna hear you but once it's done it's done

and we're not good we're not you think a broke man can have four women in the lasting uh if you do it the right way because again it's not it's not so listen all women and I ain't going, it's not going to work. They're not rocking with that. It has to be a certain kind of woman. She got to have a certain mindset if she's going to do it. Because if she's the kind of woman again, that she needs birthdays and all this. What's your question?

I got two questions. Go on, go on. How far apart, because you know how you said you had one that was with you for a while? How was the, what was the age difference? No, no, no. How quick did it take to get the other three on board? it wasn't it didn't take a long time it was taking a long time it was

I kind of set up a dinner I told I told one that I want you to meet I want you to meet the other ones initially it was just three so I told her that I wanted her to meet the other two I set up the day where the last one come from she's one of my dancers

she's the newest yeah yeah she's one of my dances so country inspired yes uh it's still gonna have some country but it's still gonna have some of that yeah yeah I can't be me, but it's, like, everything that I love about country music

mixed with what it is that I normally do. It's pretty much right there. And you've got this tour in the Vegas residency coming. Yeah, man, I'm proud of that. I grew up in Vegas. Definitely flying in for that. At the high school in Vegas, the whole nine, so to be able to go back and do something like that, that's...

I could live in Vegas. You know, we got sold together. So when that it gets, you know, Oshry gave me a call, I figured you could give me a call. Say less. Miss Hayton over here. Nah, not. Hate me.

I come with him. No, I'll come with him. Yo, I'll come with him. What do you want me to do? I come with. I'm attached. They think I bring Jada kiss with me. I walk in the Fowah 7-11,

yo, is Jada. Like, yo, bro. You got me, like, knock a wretch. Like, I'm in the bag. Like, I'm in the back of his fucking. Like, what's the fuck y'all think? He comes here. It's included?

It's included. Pack is still? Pull up. Yo, Neo, man, five of your favorite artists of all time. And I'm going to make it even easier for you. I'm going to say, songwriters. No, no, group. Groups?

Five groups. That's hard. R&B. Let's go songwriters. Five, five. He's a hell of a writer. What you did? You want songwriters?

Let me get your best five songwriters. That, that'd be easy. Or just at least. You know, this is a hard question. So, baby face. Ooh. Um, uh, Smokey Robinson. Um.

Smokey was right and all that shit Jaunte Austin My God Jonte is a monster The dream Monster Yeah yeah yeah

And the fifth Got to go with Lana Richie Who Yo niggas don't understand Well niggas don't say He's a nigger

nigga Nah no no Like Before you go away with that Because I love Lina Ritchie But I've had this argument

With some real Sweet R&B singers That they don't rate them because they feel like he was lollipop or something. Now. What do you think? Nah, no. Okay, so Lionel Scott, the Commodores and then went over into the country.

Like, Lionel Richie took publisher of the year, two years in a row. Not a publishing company, Lionel Richie by himself of this. That's an award that goes to publishing companies. Look at a year. Lano Rich twice. Twice. Twice. I love, I love, I love, that man was putting numbers on the board.

But I've heard this argument with, like, you know, some people you were... That's because he didn't keep it R&B. Like he went R&B, then he went pop, then he went country. He's like, hello. If you got that, you're supposed to do that. You're looking for it.

No, no, no, no, no. I love Lionel Rich. They just can't do that part of the law right there. Hello? Let me see it. You know how this shit go, hip-hop, R&B, it's always a debate. Of course.

So I'm sitting down with some of the most respected R&B singers of all time, and I'm surprised when Lion will come up. They're like, yeah, he ain't like, you know, I'm like, huh? They're mad. Lionel fucking Richie?

They're mad. Cass feel like, because you do one thing well, you're supposed to stay there. And it's like, nah, what if you do six things well? Like, how I'm not, if I'm giving the gift, I'm going to use it. Like, Lonnie Richie could write R&B, but he could also write pop. He could also write country. He could do all that. So why would he not do it?

No, no, no. You can't front on him. Not at all. You name some serious one, Smokey Robinson did all the hotel shit. You know, Motey Face might be my favorite songwriter, you know. That's the weirdest one, right? We're cool with a lot of people, but, you know, I'm actually cool with Babyface. That's, that's, no, don't throw the shit.

He's going to my birthday party and sing at my birth. Don't do that. You're going to, don't throw that. Don't throw that. Don't throw that. You're going to look crazy out here. You look crazy with Joey badass. Now you say, babyface.

I go to dinner. with baby face all the time he's my friend this what I'm trying to tell you he's one of the weirdest relationships I have am I lying did he yet oh they go fuck I call that Nick a call cap on the cat we are you was there did he yet yo that's my guy like what do you he's the one oh yeah that Joe crack cannot believe I'm cool through this whole journey it's like I sit down to have dinner with baby face and baby Face want to hear the stories cap, but not. Babyface me like, yo, Joe, tell me some shit.

Yo, this, they all do, you know what I'm saying? They want that shit. That's sauce, man. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm telling you the truth. What you want me to do? I said, you see a little Boosey the other day on the interview? No.

Oh, you say, he's a big fan of our show. He said, I know Joe about to say some shit. We need them on here, man. We need. Boosey badass, call us up, man. Atlanta. Right, Atlanta. We're looking from the outside in, right?

We need to go to. Atlanta's what I want to go to Atlanta Can we go to Atlanta? Got some new things? I love Atlanta. You got some new ventures. You started a golf line? Yeah, man. Yeah, Oligo Sport. So my man is Tango was talking about earlier. He been playing golf forever. I've been trying to give me out there.

And I never, I'm young. I don't play golf. Like, the pants is weird. I'm not doing it. But he actually got me out there one time. We went to, who was it, Reggie Jackson's tournament. Right? And mind you, Reggie Jackson's, Tournament is not a regular golf tournament. Like, every hole, they're giving away Jordan's fucking, like,

every hole is something different. So, like, I'm like, is this, what? He's like, this ain't how golf normally is. But, yeah. So I fell in love with the game. So I'm like, all right, listen, if I'm going to do this, I'm not wearing that shit, bro. Like, these things look nuts.

Sorry, they look nuts. I'm not doing it. So you got to make your own. So we, he's all right, he was like, all right, we'll start a line. So we got bags, we got, we got, you know, clothes or shoes, the whole nine. It's coming together nice. I'm going to see on some stuff some stuff.

The Hinaldo Martinez. Did you know that? What hell is there? Reggie Jackson. Mr. October. Reggie Jackson in Spanish. He changed his name to Reggie Jackson.

The Hanaldo Martinez. Google that shit. I ain't lying to you at the time. It wasn't cool to be sent. Well, as I was alive, his name was Reggie Jackson. Well, you better go ask Denzel Washington, who told me that's the Hanald Maldon Martinez.

Okay? And we got love, Reggie. I'm from the Bronx. That's me, that's Joe Jackson. Reggie Jackson did all that work in the Bronx. One day I see him and I go, oh, my God, Reggie Jackson, I try to go. I get held back by Denzel Washington. You see your Joe. Denzel Washington is like, I don't think you should be running up to that guy.

I said, what do you mean? He said, that's right now. He denounced the Latinos when he was winning. He didn't want to save the Spanish. Wow. I don't fucking know. I don't know. So is Reggie Jackson?

All the niggins is dead. I also think, to Reggie Jackson's credit, I also think I was in Houston at the 50-cent weekend at basketball shit I was coaching. He confronted me somehow. He heard the story. This ain't the first time I say. Somebody came in front of me, yo, Joe, what's up?

I would say, yo, what's up, Reggie Jack? I think he wanted to get into the conversation of Reinaldo Martinez. We might need Reggie Jackson on this bitch right here, so he could explain to us that the other niggas is dead. Yeah. That Martinez ain't in the whole affair. Reggie Jackson is in the whole of that. The Hanaldo ain't in the game right there.

None of that. That shit crazy, man. It really is. Yo, Neo, my brother, man, we thank you, man, for coming, man. It's a-in-and-sack the album. Oh, we got a little snippet or something? I take that. Okay, cool.

A little country taste, son. It's always beautiful. Yeah, let's play the song. What's the call? It's called Simple Things. Oh, shit. You put on that makeup Spend an hour on your hair

High heels in that red dress With a slip right up to there And I don't mind But sweats and ponytail and smile suit me just fine I could do this country right here You'll get in the kitchen Make a meal fit for a king Burn your hands and cut your fingers

Just to feed me, girl and I appreciate But I'd equally praise A sandwich that you made You can search your whole life never to find what's standing right in front of you It's always the simple things the way you laugh is the way you cry to your favorite song life is all the in between The flowers you find on the uphill climb that keep you moving on and after you stop chasing It's when you find out All they really made sense

It's a simple thing It's always a simple thing Woo Crazy Hey, hey in here, face Holy shit Thank you You have made me a country music fan

Neo you have made me a country music fan That was fucking amazing an amazing any genre right there. That shit was crazy. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate the love. It was crazy. We're coming soon. I thought, I think we're dropping this. Are we dropping this year? Are we waiting to next year?

Say, who this year? Out of next year. No doubt. I don't know where there's some railroad for the rest of the year. That's a fact. The win is the tour supposed to start. Next year? I think the tour is top of 2026. Yeah. I think me and Acon moving.

I'm fine. Oh, with Acon? Yeah, man. That's that shit right. You know, I toured Africa with ACON. Africa with ACON. All right. When we get ACON, we're going to get them here, a kiss.

I didn't say nothing. I'm not talking about it. No, no, I'm telling you, I went on tour in Africa with ACON. That shit was the illest shit I ever seen in my life. No flags? Oh, congratulations on Dallas. I had the whole stadium curse in the mountain in the fucking... Her rock?

No, we was in L.A. Me, Pitbull, Little John, and the Ying Yang Twins, and I had the, he had a Dallas shit. I had him shitting on him. I was like, this is the Dallas. He was a good sport about it. I was surprised Rich wasn't cursing the whole fucking crowd out. Yo, Neo, man, you're always with baby Tata over there.

Yes, uh, cool V, man. Cool V. Yo, my brother, man. Yo, what does it feel like being Tata's little brother, right? Yo, no, no, ladies and gentlemen, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yo, come here, come in, come in, come in, no, no, yo, leave my man alone. God, so many years I thought he was Tata. Yeah, he get that a lot.

You know what I'm saying? I got, you know, listen, so many years I see, I didn't realize, nah, I'm not, I'm not Tata. Yo, all that look exactly alike. You all look exactly alike. Well, you're not twins, right? No, he's just looking the same. Well, anyway, brother, you got the right one with you, brother. Yeah, man.

Oh, Neil, thank you for blessing the couch. Like Kit says, there's always legends, but there's different legends, I'm noticing. And everybody's a legend, boy, you definitely what you've brought to the world in terms of happiness, because I got to... I'm a move, man, by myself. Yes, sir.

But I'm a full. When we're together By me, I'm good all by myself But maybe you You make me better You make me better Oh shit Oh, shit

Love, brother That's love This ain't that That ain't this is cracking kiss Give it up for Neo Take our guests for the day Joe and Shayla We love you

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