Joe and Jada - Rich Paul on LeBron-Jordan, Jay-Z vs. Terror Squad Rucker Blackout Game & Adele

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul. Right out the gate, Jada instigates an argument about LeBron James' future with the Los Angeles Lakers, which then quickly evolves into a heated debate over whether King James or Chicago Bulls legend Michael Jordan is the true greatest NBA player of all time. They also discuss Paul's relationship with superstar musician Adele, his new 'Game Over' podcast with former ESPN analyst Max Kellerman at The Ringer, his signature shoe with New Balance, and the infamous cancelled 2003 Rucker Park basketball game between Jay-Z's Team S. Carter and Joe's Team Terror Squad which would have featured NBA stars like LeBron, Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony, Philadelphia 76ers guard Allen Iverson, and Los Angeles Lakers center Shaquille O'Neal. 3:30 - New 'Game Over' podcast with Max Kellerman 6:00 - Relationship with Adele 8:00 - Paul explains to Joe why Lakers WON'T trade LeBron 11:30 - LeBron vs. Jordan NBA G.O.A.T. debate 16:30 - Shoe deal with New Balance 21:00 - Paul's role & specialties with Klutch Sports clients 33:00 - Why you should work HARDER once you make it 46:00 - Why Paul stays out of his clients' personal lives 53:00 - Cancelled Jay-Z vs. Terror Squad Rucker game 1:04:00 - Importance of giving back 1:10:00 - Joe's got the Kenny Smith leg [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. By the way, just so you know, I was there, blackout. We flew in. I was going to drop 50 on your team. 50. We had Alan. I talked about it. Yo, what up, y'all, this is your boy, the motherfucker,

John Joe crack in the building. You know what it is your boy Jada? You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic. And we got our foot on these, just throats, right, man.

That's right. Talk your shit. I mean, our next guess when you think of hardworking, grinding, coming from the bottom, you know what I mean, making something out of nothing.

One of the best sports agents in the world. really never loses. He does a lot of winning. You know what I mean? Great business, man. Great individual. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Rich Paul.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're coming in our space now. You're the new rookie in the block. You and Max Kellerman coming in that pot. Well, you said it's an audio visual space. Yeah.

Explain what you mean. about that, but you coming in that space. Something I've been working on about 18 months, Max and I. You know, when the first situation happened with them, I called him. He thought I was trying to represent him. I'm like, no, we should do something together. He called me back. He was like, oh, that's kind of interesting.

So we worked it, worked it, worked it. And yeah, we're excited about it. It's going to be dope, though. You know, it's like... It's going to be L.A. and New York. L.A. Okay. L.A.

But, you know, it's one of those situations where it's like... St. Ringer, Spotify, Netflix, hard to turn that down. It's Max, who's a professional, and then it's me who don't exist in that world. And we've been working, too. Like, it's not like a game. It's not like you coming in. When I focus on something like that, like, I really put the time in to rehearse

and want to do it the right way. Because you can't play with the business like that. I could tell by your lineup and shit. My barber flew in from Cleveland. My barber, the best barber in the world. That shit, the fibers? No, ain't no fibers, too. Joe.

You ain't got the Jalen Brown right now. I ain't no fibers, Joe. We've been north for like a week. I'm sharp today. I'm just letting you know. I'm fucking sharp. But, but, okay. But same to third video, this, nigga, I'm on point.

If you're not going to do right by 10, Joe, you and I still have a little, you forgot? No, I forgot. Let me know. I wanted it up. Oh, man. I mean, I produced a record. I never got nothing.

I never got nothing, Joe. From what? From Family Tides. I got nothing. One of the best songs on the whole album. Yes. You forgot? I forgot.

You let me to play? No. Oh, okay. What happened on Family Tide? I don't know. I didn't get nothing. Nothing. I'm just saying, that's not your style.

That's not you. That's not you. You're the artist? He won an executive all of them, great? I don't even fucking no. Don't send me to the T.S. study, the beans. I need, you know. Your risk for, it's always the little guys, right?

Because coming from fat, Joe, you're a little guy, right? And so, when I go, yeah, that was kind of foul, yeah. Yeah, so that's a flag. That was a flag. That was a flag. That was sad. That was like, Rudy. Oh, shit.

But you're sharp, though, Joe. I'm on point with it. I caught myself right now. That goes to bed. That's a little bit better, right? Like, I was, I caught it. Yeah. But, you know, your girlfriend, wife, what?

You're talking about, you're talking about a death? Yes. Oh. So what I'm saying is always little guys like you, man. Like I say, I hear, I'm looking at fucking Germain DuPri. Jermando Pre-Had Janet Jackson, what gives you guys the courage to walk into a fucking I-ton beauty queen

and be like, yeah, babe. What's up? Want to fuck with a real one? Yo! Yo! I'm looking at you. I said, damn. This man, you guys,

Yo Well It's crazy Yo Yeah I'm looking That's the Germain DePri You're about 5, 2 and shit

Some chains That's the young So change That man went out Some tanks It's crazy You know I'm Jermaine DePri

The confidence gotta be At an all-time high Huh Well you don't We don't really do The choosing You get chose

Oh You shit So That's that shit That's I like that Yeah Sometimes we get chose by the wrong ones, huh?

Well, you have to take you through the fucking washing machine, huh? Yeah, when you get chose, you have a choice. I got a friend, he's breaking up right now. His wife is on that fucking Instagram. She dropping the 48 laws of being the fucked up, man. It's just, he on date 12. He still got 30 more days of the shit. I'm like, I go in the fucking Italian bakery.

They're like, hey, you see what the, the Italians, the real Italians. They're like, yo, your friend, his wife on fire is the name. Like, me, I'm going, yo, let me get my sandwich right. There's just something wrong, right? I said, yo. You know, I listen. I don't want to smoke, man. You do get chose, though, you know.

We need a choice. Before we go any further, so we never had to have this discussion again, can you please. tell him King James can never be treated unless I saw that Joe I was wondering

where he was going with that he wants to take his talent do you what was you said you followed something no I got to no

you just follow nothing no you said you saw somebody say something and it confirmed the king

what I said is this league historically has been about rebuilding And when they got a bunch of young kids bawling the way they bowling They got a bunch of white boys too

At that balling over there Dropping 35, 40 points a game Right going crazy over there The King took a little bit off For the sciatica I'm wondering if he's going He might have fucked up Because I don't think he has sciatica

If you really want me to tell you What I really want to say He said, y'all let me just see No, you never had to play with them Show these guys what they could do on anyone And they fucked away This is why I have a show. Give them.

Okay, come on. Because if you want the real, you can come see you. Oh, you're full of shit, too. That ain't that. You made me some promises that ain't never happened. Your damn lie. You're a liar.

How? You told me guys were coming to the Knicks. The thing you represent. Who motherfuckers went to Afghanistan? They ain't come on here. They gave more money in Afghanistan. The Knicks probably didn't have money. I came here bragging so hard.

You told me one time somebody was coming. man, I was so gas. I was ready to bet. I would have went to fucking... I was trolling, Joe. Yeah, you was trolling me. You definitely trope, because the motherfucker ain't come nowhere.

They're here. No, but listen, you don't play with Syedica, first of all. So, but again, now, you can't be trading. I have no trade clause, Joe. And even if you, even if you wanted to trade,

it's just, people just say the craziest things. I saw all of that, though. I was just like, yes, this is why I'm doing a show. because you've got to get the real. That's not really, it's great clickbait, but it's not like the real.

The reality of it is, you make $54 million at that age. That's out of control. Talk slow to him. So I'm not too slow. Now, I'm on point today, is what I'm trying to tell you. He can go fast.

Hello. So it's what Jay does say in is right. He can't be traded unless he wants to be traded. But even with that being said, it takes two to tango in a trade. So when you hear all these people, oh, you got to take a back seat, you got to fit in, you got to do this.

If you want to break it down, you can take all four positions and name your top five. He's in one of the top five in all four positions outside of center. So where's the fitting in that? Yeah, but you say that now? I said for the last 23 years.

For the last 23 years. Okay, let's cut the shit. Let's cut the shit, get to the pure. M.J. LeBron James, who's the go? Here we go. I'm so tired. No, no, this ain't the tired. How do we say, get here?

How do we didn't fucking get here, Joe? He sucked you in. He sucked you in. Him. He lined you up. No, I'm here, so you don't have to say this crazy shit ever. I don't got to say this shit. Who's the goat?

Rich boy, you're here. Who's the goat? the mistake he don't believe me I'm outside maybe I'm talking to some other guys they when we get to the joint talk yo they used to call fouls yo he used to play against white guys stocked in the religious argument depending on the age group of who are you talking crossing everybody's ass right now so what I'm trying to say is who's the go that's all I'm saying can I get you on record is LeBron Jace could you say you said for the last 23 years,

he could be number one in every position. I'm going to say he's better than Michael Jordan. I'm going to say it always said to this job. I would say it always said to this job. I would say Ritz Play is the best coach in the universe. Now, I'm going to say that for my show, but this is what I'm going to tell you on your show. That's bullshit.

This is what I'm going to tell you on your show. This is what I'm going to tell you on your show. You judge guys by what? The rooms that you're in, right? Who come in the rooms that Joe's in? You don't let anybody in the rooms that you go That's a super fact. But LeBron James

But let me ask you his question. Let me ask you this question, Joe. Since you're already, you ain't painting my publisher, I got nothing, whatever. But long story. Listen to this. What room can Mike go in that LeBron can't? Listen. I'm saying, and by the way.

I don't think you want the answer to that. I want to answer. Y'all, that's something, Jay, man. This is a different type of. But here's what I'm saying. I'm asking you. See, in two. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.

And I say it respectfully, though. That's not that. Respectfully. Into the question. Ask the question. Who's had sneakers selling for 30 years? Listen, man, no one than ever. I keep jumping from top to the top. I'm not up.

He's talking about rooms. Yo, Jada. He's talking about rooms. You're not answering the question. What was a baby when Jordan's came up? You can't get paid. That space jammed was number two. Jordan was the number one.

You were the number one. Yeah, man, you can't, not sneakers. Yeah, what are you talking about? Can't, it's not fair to even say that. You think LeBron is better than Michael Jordan. He's talking to him. We're on our show. We're on our show.

You think LeBron is better than Michael Jordan. Funny. That's crazy of you. That's fucking nuts. I like the way he just said it. I just asked. What wrong with you go with? He asked you to the room.

I think he could go in any room that he called. You think. LeBron James is better than Michael George. Put it this way. With room. Can he go in somewhere that he can't go with? If you're on the basketball greatness elevator and you get on and there's key access. No, LeBron is there.

He's third. In my category, he's third. My category opens up, Michael Jordan goes in, then it actually goes up one flight before LeBron's and Kobe walks in. And then it goes up one flight and LeBron walks it. That's how I do. It's nothing wrong with that. Okay. That's how you're feeling at me like I'm dizzy.

No, that's your opinion. You just go to me like, I know that's your bread and butter. You got to protect it. Let me do it another way. No, it's not my bread and butter. I've built a real business. A real business. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

So the elevator don't stop for you the same way it stops for me. In the goat, you said if they get a real business. Getting to go. No, what I was going to say to you is, what I'm going to say to you is, I'm talking about to the top floor. There's a key that takes you all the way up to the top floor. Kobe's go there, the Browns go there, mics. They both, they all go to that floor.

Yeah. You now get access denied. Yo, Ritz, let me tell you something. Max Kellerman, I try to sign him to the rewind. He said, y'all, I don't really paint my shit like that. I'm saying, I'm sorry, good luck. Sounds like a good idea, but I don't do it. He was the first person I tried to get on a rewinding box.

He's a good guy. You want to sponsor the show? Man, we ain't got nobody sponsored no show. We're just sponsoring this show right now, you know what I'm saying? We're just taking the average of course. We're building the business, you know? What means you go with new balance instead of Nike with all the fucking affiliation? I think I do want to sponsor the show.

But, yeah, let's talk about it. No, no, no. Let's talk about it. So just put us in the lower page. paper tier. What's that tier three? No, no, tier three.

I'll be picked number three. Let me pick. Maybe go with NewBeltz? In 2019, I did a million-dollar internship with Kid Darius Basley. That kind of expedited

NIL, instead of him going to college, sent him to work at New Balance. And he learned an actual big. business that was directly aligned to where he was gone.

You can't play basketball without shoes. But what I really wanted him to learn was everything that goes into it, you know,

the marketing of it, how a company choose the athlete, the making of it, the cutting sew, all the different silhouettes of the shoes and all that.

But I knew that because he wasn't going to college, that the NBA teams would have to call somebody to see how he performed, you know,

what his habits was like. They can't call. college coach. So he went to Boston, lived in Boston, trained before work, went to work, then trained after work. And because of that,

he still ended up going to the first round, signed a deal with New Balance, and then that started our relationship. And it's a family-owned business, so there's not a lot of bureaucracy so I can get right to the decision-makers. Just build the relationship, and then came up with the idea

that everyone else could have a shoe why can't, A CEO have a shoot for the night. And then they, they like that idea. First one did it really well. Second one did it really well. And now we're on this third one. Let me see, put it up on the joint because I ain't really. How about, how about I do for you, what you didn't do for me, Joe?

I'm just going to give you your own pair. How about that? Let me give you own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tip of it. Yeah, I'll tell you. I tell you, Miss Fall, man. I'm a 12, brother.

They know my size in this shoe game. Yeah. They know what it is. So, but when you think about it, I was just thinking about the joint. I love that. Comfortable. Very comfortable. Fire.

And the creative came from me. That's why I had this. It's all around being unbothered. And so if you unbothered, it's more so just like that. I'm focused. See the box? Yeah. I'm locked.

then and the colorway came from just this idea of like when you're a kid you go to school come home just want your juice box everybody leave me alone for at least for 10 minutes when you're adult you go to work you come home just want your glass of wine so that started the foundation of color way then kind of built on that there's kind of like unbothered by what pretty much everything critics opinions naysayers people that stay talking but never really did anything, you know, all that type. And so it's actually, this is the color way going to retail. It's a friends and family color way that lighter color way is on the box.

So, y'all get both. You got a big mic a little closer, brother. Come on, bro. Because you're so-spoken gentleman. That's a flat. Let me tell you. Go to Mike closer. You got that shit long distance over now.

Oh, my. You got that shit. You got that shit. I thought you were I was a microphone I thought you was sharp today I'm super sharp

yeah because even when I fuck up I win that's true that's the point yeah okay so and New Balance

has just been great been great partners every step of the way from clutch athletics been with New Balance signing guys like Maxi and Garland and Ravine

and you know Jontay who do you represent could you give us a list. By the way, everybody, if y'all don't know who Rich Paul is, because I guess you're guilty by association, even me, all I think about

is LeBron, but you represent a bunch of superstar athletes. Can you just give us a list? But here's the thing. I think people don't understand how important it is for you to be given an opportunity. Right? So, I got to be thankful for LeBron because

at the end of the day, I've got to this place from a perception of people thought you were extra and today I'm an executive at the highest level right so that road travel it has to start somewhere that starts with the opportunity that I tell everybody around talent whether you're artists whether you athletes these guys don't owe you anything they really don't and you don't have to know everything either but what you need to know is what you're actually capable of doing so you can be a value add in the room.

The problem is the idea of living like Joe and Jada is not really a good idea. The idea of living like me and how I live in terms of when you next to the athlete and staying in that space is what the focus should be. Because then that will allow you to skip steps. A lot of people get to the point and skip steps. So I'm thankful for the opportunity that LeBron gave, but my ultimate respect for the opportunity that he gave and for him

was the position I stand in now because I'm no longer dependent of him. And that's the most important thing you can do is become independent of the person that actually gave you that opportunity because they didn't have to give it to you. So that's a blessing. My thought process was to go and build, go and build something.

And when you asked me a question earlier, like about the bags. It's not a thing. That's how many bags you don't caught to the point that we use. Just like, got another one. I never,

the thing about it is, I never focus on a bag. You got to focus on a disruption of an industry. That's going to bring all the bags, you know. And bags come in different shapes and sizes, but also it's not so much

as currency is more so a position. Because that's the actual bag. The bag ain't the money. The bag is the position. When it comes to this audiovisual, me and you, we position real right. Be on the top tier. No, but it's true. But to ask you a question, we represent over 600 clients today.

600? 600. Wow, shit. Yeah. Clap it off for that. What? So what? Tennis, all type of shit?

So a couple of years ago, we acquired, with my part of that. at UTA, a company called Roof, which is like 170 European footballers, which is great. Then we grew the football business. Obviously, the basketball business grew. A little bit of baseball. But then we have a commercial side of business

that's really grown at a rapid pace and we're doing unbelievable work. And, you know, this stuff, you don't do it by yourself. Got an unbelievable team of people. That's right. And I think when you start at one place and obviously started the company

I started the company because I felt like players was only being viewed as transactions and I knew them as people coming from that side working at shoe companies I played every role though

I don't know if people really understand I played literally every row break that down on us man that's important for the people I play every role from stylist to I decided the jury to watch how to do put the lay together

all the way to being in commercials, writing on commercials, all the way to picking the, you know, we did a commercial walking my shoes. And Callet was actually calling me on this crazy back then. They wanted to use this Curtis Mayfield sample. And I was like, nah, let's do something different for LJ because it was, you know, he was so connected to the culture.

Long story short, end up getting with Mike Will through my man Chubby made rest of peace early and Chubby I was just happy to be talking to Chubby one day on the phone he was asking what I was working on I was like man I'm trying to figure this thing

No Chubby baby No yesterday's price is not today's price He threw the battery in my back that day after the battle He was talking someone shit I went and threw the IG on and explaining the fucking verses That's how I came up with yesterday's price

It's not to Chubby baby threw the battery in my back Yeah. That led me to get on the phone with Mike Will. It was like, we need a hook for this. He was, I'm going to call this kid. He called Sam Hook. Sam Hook wrote the hook.

Sent it to me. Listen to it. Like, who you hear on this. And By us being from Ohio and John Legend being from Ohio, you wouldn't have got John Legend. So, like, going from the clothes to jewelry to this, that's what I'm saying, people don't really understand, like, the journey. And by the way,

we were still around, I mean, I've been around y'all for, I don't know, 20 plus years. But it's just one of those things where you, it's okay to wait your turn and be observant while waiting your turn, not being, what I would say, eager to be entitled. Because there's an eagerness to entitlement when you're around talent. and it works even worse when you're actually blood. What you're going to do with firing your brother. Then I had to hear my mom. Then I had to hear my, you know, so it gets a little tricky. So I'm glad I was not actual blood.

But I've always had this mentality to build and to want to learn more and not know at all, sort of speak. And that kind of just led to other things, not really being complacent. as you have more success. I've never really celebrated anything that I've been able to do up to this point, though, to be honest, which I never popped a bottle or champagne or had a drink. That's the biggest flex ever, never celebrating. Well, let's the only way to beat.

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I can tell you two biggest mistakes. This business, back in the day, say Raq Kim, one of the greatest artists in the world, he would wait every four years to drop an album. Somehow when we first started, rappers, even if they were ready to make an album, they would bullshit for two, three years, and then drop an album. That's just the way it was The Little Wayne and them started dropping And DMX started dropping albums every six months

Two in one year, yeah Two in one year That's when people knew Oh shit we could drop but before then It was like hurry up and wait It was like you know And so You're sitting in your successes

When you do that I'm trying to tell you Can't do that Because when you do that It becomes settlement What I'm saying to you is Same thing with bags Back in the days

I get a million dollars $2 million. I live in Miami. I'm like, yo, I'm not going out. I'm not going to work. I'm going to hit the clubs, pop bottles, pop champagne to the shit look like it's running out.

Then I go out there and get the bag again. Big mistake. Big mistake. That bag has to be the opposite way. You actually got to work more, right? So now it's like the horse. Let that go. The horse, taxes, investment.

The horse just be like, yo, we got to keep working. You got to keep going. I wasn't like that. But nobody was. But you also didn't have the examples. You got to think we come from a totally different environment. You come from a flip environment, not a compounding environment.

See, we only thought about the flip. They think about the compounding of it all. It's a totally different mentality. So break down the difference between flip, real quick, flip and compounding. I have 10. This is a learning show. Yeah, I have 10 dollars. I want to make 20.

That's flipping. compounding is I have $10, I'm putting that $10 the way. Don't, I don't, I'm not touching it for the next 10 years and that $10 becomes, let's just say, for sake, 100 grand. So if you go 10 to 20, 20 to 40, 40 to 80, 80 to 160 versus 10, work, that's 100. Now you compound that 100. How do you do when you got an athlete that you represent that has six babies, in one year and do you

do you have a real conversation with them or you yeah I have a justification for having that real conversation because I lived it

right I don't you know growing up we that's what you lived it so that was one of the things

that I felt like the industry was missing these guys they can't you're not unrelatable you can't relate

and you really don't care see that's the thing that goes over the head of most but when you have, all talent has an ego. We all do, right?

But talent, especially high-level talent. So if you're feeding that ego with sweets, while everything is going good, you miss out on a lot, per se. But the vegetables and the nourishment don't sound good at the time where I'm at a highest level. It only sound great in need. You missed that conversation when it don't matter. I got 20 cars, I got this, that, that. I ain't trying to hear that. That's talent today.

But it should be the other way around. A lot of talent don't value expertise, especially in a sports business because everyone thinks they can do your job. We work the hardest. It don't matter. I can't write like Jada. I can't write like Joe.

I can't perform it. But in sports, because you grow up, so close to the player. I'm taking the practice. I'm doing this, doing that everyone thinks that they can do the job because the talent is shown and the talent is actually the work.

I have one of the biggest problems in the world with a good friend of mine. He was a good friend of mine, but his thing was, you know, he thought he could manage me, right? He would tell me, yo, can I have meetings with Jay-Z? This is a street

dude that ain't never have a nine to five. in his life. But he dead ass was asking me that, yo, let me be Jay-Z. I got some ideas. Yo, I should manage you. Anybody that wants to work and my crew has a job. Anybody. I employ maybe 100 people, maybe even more.

Anyone of my friends that I grew up with that wants a job able to work, bring something to the table, they have a job. You see them everywhere in the stores, this is that. Now, if I know this guy I don't want to work, never had a nine to five in his life, never did nothing successful, but just float around the hood,

hustle to hustle to hustle. He didn't understand, yo, bro, you're not qualified to be my manager and run my career. You just can't do it. He had a problem with it. He kept telling everybody, tell her at the end,

it was like, you know, we had to fall out, fall out, fall out, fall out. Because he had to know, like, you're my man. You never had a nine to five. Like, but see, I never, I never really had nine and five either. No, I get that, but we know who's qualified or who's going to work, who's going to put in that work.

But here's the thing. I always tell people with your friend, right? If I would have talked to him, I would have said, no, you don't need to meet with J.C. Go and find a guy with the qualifications that Joe would see to meet with JZ. You're still getting the credit. If I bring the guy to you with the qualification and the capabilities, you're going to be like, oh, shit. Now I'm building a little equity in that bank of your trust.

From a business perspective, you're my friend. I trust you from that perspective. But from a business perspective, it's different. Now you make the left. I only had one friend. I ever trusted blinding, right? Rest of peace, my brother Raoul. When I signed my big deal and I negotiated, I had a deal, right?

Young, big punk comes out. He's selling like crazy. every record label was like Fad Joe we need the next Spanish guys so we sit down and they wouldn't let me go I was in one of them negotiations where they were like yo you can't leave we're going to work this thing

we're going to take into the deal Kaiser did that to me you know fine that's who did that Kaiser did that no it wasn't Kaiser it was Craig Calman but the point Same family both that's the same thing The point I'm saying is we closed the deal

We jump up and down. Yo, wow, we made it. When kids, we came from the street, street, street. To get a legit check like that, we felt like we robbed the planet Earth. We walk out. Yo, part of my management team. I got a beating tomorrow at 1 o'clock.

I see you tomorrow, 1 o'clock. One o'clock, come 2 o'clock, come 3 o'clock, come 4 o'clock, come 5 o'clock, come 6th. I get a call. You know, what's up, God? You're Raoul, we had a meeting one o'clock. I got three bitches here. Maybe I was here all the... I said, okay, Raoul.

It's not for you. It's not for you. Yeah. This is one of my most trusted guys I love to death in my life. I had to tell them all for it. Like, yo, this ain't for you. Yeah. You ain't on point with...

That's K-Y-P. That's what? K-Y-P. What's that? Know your personnel. Know your personnel? Know your personnel? Yeah.

I mean, I know every rule. I've been doing business for so long. I know every rule. I ain't got to read the 48 laws. I ain't got a K-Y-P. I've been through every scenario and you can fucking address. Oh, that's this.

I don't get to fuck. I've been through all that shit. You know what I'm saying? And I gave opportunities, even when I knew there's certain people ain't need opportunities. My thing is... Survivor's remorse, too.

Yes. Part of it is that. Survivor's remorse. When you try to bring everybody with you, I went through that. You know what I'm trying? But that thing is hard. I'm blessed because I don't really have that. You don't have many friends like that that you grew up with?

I have a ton of friends that I grew up with, but we all was together. We just have a, it's a strange dynamic that I have my friends. They was positioned with me. So we have a different perspective on it. Right. And then there's a pride that comes with it, obviously. You understand that. But I tell him right away

I'm not I'm not obligated to do nothing for you Especially now You want to know what's crazy is I've been through so much in my life Somebody told me the other day I'm looking at some shit Somebody I know knows the person And he turned around and said

Yo dude's a bum Be you in my bump Immediately Like a fucking flower blooming I said, I understood, because I met some bums in my life. Bums, don't want to work, want to do the foulest shit to get it to this. A bum is a, I know women, bums.

I'm talking about bums. You know what a bum is? A bum is, if you gave them the most money in the world, they would have holes in their war in the mansion. They'll be sliding down the stairs. They will fuck your shit up. They don't give a fuck. They are going to be bums where any they can hit the lottery

and they're going to be bums no matter what the fuck they do. It's sad that I've been dealing with so many different type of people that the minute someone told me somebody I trust a yo, homie's a bum. I said, okay, I got it. I know what this is. I don't got to deal with him or nothing. I'm watching social media.

I was like, nah, that's a bum. He's a bum. When you know him, he's about to cross somebody, about the shit on everything, this, this, this, this. You know, these guys are, you know, I met people like that, that there's nothing you could do to change them. You give them anything, you could polish them. You could take an up-and-coming rapper, polish them. Throw the gear on them, the jury to this, this, this, this, this, this. A bum is a bum.

We're not going to throw the flag. What do I do now? Take an up-and-coming rapper and do what? Up-and-coming rapper, throw the jury on them, throw it, you know, get them the image, that everything. Your point, baby, that coffee is like it. The minute, I used to hustle. Now all I do is relax, and I was a fan of the Jackson Fah, but listen, I used to hustle. And I was second in command without going in further, right?

And I did good, and I used to hear these guys. In my face all the time. I thank you for not killing me for my slot. That's one thing I learned later. I said, man, you were something else, but they didn't kill you in the fucking staircase. It should have killed me a couple of times because I was in the way, right?

But I would hear them say all the time, yo, fuck Joe, you know, why is Joe running the show, this, this, this. We all equal. We all grew up together as kids. Like Cinderella, I leave the drug game alone where we was making tons of money be to rap. Did Apollo

get a deal? I'm gone. We had a run. Do you hear me? Everybody bends out, be my out, this and that. They took over less than three to six months. They was bums! Back on the block. Bums! Like,

they had a gold mine. All you got to do is open a shop and you and you kicked up. They found the way to bum it out. And all these years. I'm working with these guys. I keep hearing them say, yo, why Joe's second? Why Joe this, this? They

couldn't do nothing with it. You know, so it's certain people, you know, it's like the horse, you need them the water. And the motherfucker, you know, if they're not going to drink, it's over. Shoot them in the head. How do you deal with, like, you know, it's a very hard job.

Like, how do you deal when you know, uh, yo, bro, I don't dealt with athletes. I don't dealt with athletes that You know, you know your mom's just getting take advantage of if you see how they're in with the young dude and you kicked up and your mom's, like, I don't think... I don't have done to do with him.

Yeah, but you still got to deal, like, what do you do? What do you do when you tell a guy, like, do you tell a guy like, yo... Tell your mom to get rid of a boyfriend? No. Do they know? That's not my place. I don't really get into that. But I thought you was going to ask me a different question.

What did you thought I was going to ask you? I thought you were going to ask me, what do you do when a guy gets to, like, the NBA, but don't really take advantage of it or not really, you know, they satisfy. No, I was not talking about that. I was talking about when you see one of your athletes just getting taken advantage of. Well, it depends. I don't. Family stuck, you don't get involved.

Nah, it's not my place. Man, I've seen that shit so much where I was just like, but you know, me, I'm dumb like that. Yeah, if I got an artist and I really love you and all that, I'm going to sit you down and tell you, yo, and I'm discovering a lot of artists. I could break that down to you. And I would tell them, like, yo, you fucking up or you this and this. Well, no, that's different.

You're going to take you out of here. That's three different things. Okay. There's a difference between keeping it very authentic and honest with someone you represent and getting in the middle of something that has to do with them and their wife or whatever, those are separate.

Yeah, you can't do that. I lost every time. Of course. That's why you never try to tell my friend that's why he's supposed to be out of that area. Yeah, yeah, you can't. Every time, let me tell you guys, if you want your friend and you see his wife

doing something you don't really like, stay out of that area. Unfortunately, you got to stay out of that area because they're going to, make up and now you're about it happened to me legendary at first i thought it was keeping it real i bring the dude to his wife like y'all look what's going on this next thing i know i'm not his man no more like that he back with his wife i give up on that i did learn though the 10 days i spent in college i learned that one of the 10 days i had to college i saw my friend

he was playing ball and a junior juco I got the flip joint I'm in the studio center like I didn't give him the whole but I'm just like you might need to check home

man just you know the next day I'm back in the student I get to Egg McMuffin joint every morning here they come I'm like oh are you so my man yeah yeah you I like so from there But also, I learned that from my uncles and aunts.

You just learn so much. I just don't. Stay honest. Yeah. That stuff you can't. But I was in trouble because I used to really lead with my heart. Yeah. I would sit down and tell somebody, yo, you should watch this and this and that.

And they would take it wrong or maybe like I'm too strong or whatever. But I'm like, you know, the way I look at it. But you're dealing with a different. Yeah. You're dealing with athletes. They know when they 10 years old, they're going to the league. if they stay straight. We're dealing with dysfunctional motherfuckers

all type of shit. They ain't got no farther their whole life. And I, Joseph Carter, Gina, give them the opportunity. It's my choice. If I like two-time a felon or not to make him a rapper, use all my juice,

to give him the beats, to produce this, to ask Jada kiss to rap on his record, to this or this or that, to now they're millionaires. Right? You gave them that. Like that, that was the opportunity they was looking for, you know. And then so sometimes you want to give them some advice when you see them headed straight forward crash.

You'd be like, yo, you know, you're going to fuck this up. You know, that's how I deal with it on another level. But, you know, most people ain't never really understand what I was trying to tell them until years later. Where I had conversations with them, it was like, yo, I wish I should listen. to you. A lot of people I wish I would have listened to it. And you said it earlier. You know, you're young, right? So you want to know what's up with rap today? I don't understand it today. I'm not just honest. I can't even be. But what I'm trying to tell you is about somebody telling me, yo, why you don't talk to them young boys, Joe? You don't want to listen. They don't want to hear you. You got a young boy. The survival rate, fuck a survival rate, the getting on rate and rapping. being successful. It's a lot of guys. Every day that see somebody die on the news

that they say rapper, Copalpa beat. We never heard of this person. What makes them a rapper? That's the easiest thing. Qualifies them, Jada. I'm looking at the news. She's an aspiring rapper.

Bitch ain't got a demo. Yo. So I'm keeping it a buck, right? So I turn around, let alone a survival rate. I've been telling people this all the time. but this is why people, they get mad at me sometimes, because I got to tell you the truth.

You think because you black or brown, you got an evil hoop or you got a rap. And that's it. It's in your mind. You're doing one of the other, right? And so they come and they go, yo, you know, I'm a rapper, but there's somebody coming to you.

It's three people coming to your show. Is anybody downloading your raps? Is anybody so you're not really, this is not really a professional, a professionalist fit. The easiest thing for the news does you say, man. Yeah, but you got one percent that makes it in rap. I understand that.

Our business is a lot different. What's similar to that is there's times like rankings in our business. So you can be ranked number one. But I wasn't. Let me finish this story because I'm going to forget. You know, I get the Alzheimer's and all that. Listen to what I'm saying. How can I talk to a young kid that I know is the exception?

he's beyond the 1% he's less than the 1% and he became successful how can I sit and tell that 19 year old kid that made $20 million and got his whole crew around him and all like, yo, this ain't there you got to get focused

this, he don't want to hear that shit from me. No. He's straight up like... I don't know the answer to that, Joe. Yeah, you can't tell him anything. Not today. You got, and you got a lot of dumb athletes, too. It's a lot of dumb athletes.

Switch to. No, I'm telling you the truth. These motherfuckers are dumb. I used to coach it to Wucker. Oh, my God. Listen. Oh, my God. Listen.

By the way, just so you know, I was there, blackout. We flew in. I was going to drop 50 on your team. 50. We had Alan. I talked about it. We talked about. Alan Iverson.

We had Carmelo Anthony. We had Stephon Marlbury. We had everybody. So they all would have been dropping 50. You were going to lose that day. If you asked your kill O'Neill, you win. If you just got LeBron straight out of high school, you're not winning that game, bro.

We had the biggest in the game there, too. We had Carmelo right after the championship. We had Stefan Marbury, highest paid player in the league at that time. We had Alan Arvison. We have Mike Bibi. How more you want? You want Zach Randolph? You want Jermaine O'Neill?

You want, like, who the fuck we didn't have? Oh, no, brother. He didn't have, bro. You didn't have, listen. That was a young brawn. That was a prince. He wasn't the king yet. When that blackout, by the way,

Catholic school. When that blackout hit, Joe, there was nobody on the planet mattered than I was. I wasn't even thinking about the blackout. I wanted to be in that, that atmosphere. That shit was going to be crazy. The game that never happened.

I was also in the radio station. Talk about it. People forget that. That was a great. It was great. I loved every bit of it I loved every bit of it What's that story you told?

Over was in the air going to Paris by the way No he wasn't he was there for the blackout He was in the rest there No no no he was there He left that night Cool and Dre pulled up Cool and Dre pulled up And they saw Jay Z in the back

He was out there Then it was the blackout He left when they were scheduled It for two days later Yeah That's what I believe you guys were in here The day of the game, the makeup game, I did not see no players coming out of it.

We left the next day. That's all of that hype. It was over. We left the next day. The hype of the first game with the black hour was never going to be. We left the next day. Chis, they were acting like they were here. They went to the radio.

They were talking. No, we was here. What do you mean? No, no, no, no, for the next game. No, we be scheduling. When I come, I was hit. Okay, by the way, I walk in with my players. They seen them out there.

This pitch is all my players. players out there. These guys never came. We was back at They were gone. Everybody was back in camp and all that. Everybody, I was there. We won by profit. Nobody came. What you want me to do? You got Shaquille Neal, you win.

You don't? It was a game. I think we did. I'm talking about AI. I'm talking about Mike Bibi when he's an all-star at that time. I'm talking about Stefan Morberry. Sebastian Telfair, we already know he wasn't going he ain't had nothing for Steph on.

Yo, you crazy, man. This was a good game. It was going to be a good game. Thank God it didn't happen because I wouldn't be sitting in Rock Nation getting money with these people. That thing was a disaster waiting to happen. That was one step,

a boom junior mafia clears the room. That shit was a terrible thing. After that radio, that shit had me. It went from Fat Joe to basketball to Fat Joe Army fatigue. Like, it was like, oh, no, You got to talk to crazy. You know, one time people, you know, now comments and all that,

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and Rich Paul just blessing us with his presence? The new show, what's it called? Game over. Game over. You know what that mean. I like Max Kellan. One of the bad. And open is game over.

You go open. I'm going to give you one more thing. Cancun, 2004. Talk your shit, bitch, Paul. Tell them who was there. Just paint the picture. Listen, what S&S did for laying back, you've never seen it. How many times the man played that shit out there?

A hundred times in a row. BMF was out there. A hundred times. in a row. Everybody who mattered was out there in that Cancun. It was the illest party of Memorial Weekend. In both, from city to Dadio's. City, there's only two clubs.

Yeah. So we're going across the street there. But S&S, by the way, one's best. It was... He's one of the greatest. You know, we still employ S&S. We still give him shows all the time.

Anybody kept the lawyer with us? anybody who didn't take the bag at that blackout time they steal my brothers and we still take care of them now nobody took the bag yeah they had a lot of bags out there they tried to hire

they took my man John Strick that's my player Strict was my player They took Strick was that dude They flipped him They tried to flip Kareem they left him a bag Kareem Reed

Kareem Reed Yeah And he was my name If we know, no Corrine Reed, I have no championship. Speaking of trolling, where's my, well, I can't even, I don't even want them now. But 20 years ago, I got you rich on the, Joe, I need those joints, we had them on. I got you rich. Never, never.

You got to remind me. No sneakers. No, he holds crazy. Don't send me the plastic T.S. joint that you get to the kids. Let me tell you something. Thank you for the sneakers. Thank you for the sneakers you gave us in the new show, game over. We know it's going to be highly successful.

You know what I'm saying? We know it's going to be highly, yo, you're a funny dude. You know, I'm with you in the championships. All right, let's take the sip. Let me tell you about Rich Port. We're in the championship game. We in the Knicks is in the championship game. One of your players lost.

Who they was playing for? Boston or something like that last year. Or the year before, sixes. That was the Sixers. the ego. Maxy. Yeah. So I'm on the court.

Rich Paul comes on. Yo, crack, what's up? This, this dad. He said, yo, my player, I said, them guys got packed up. They got to go. Next morning, I fly to L.A. I got a meeting at the polo lounge. And I'm up in there.

I'm talking about nine in the morning. I'm eating at the polo house. And I look to the right, and Rich Paul's in the next table. Hey, Joe. How you doing? Like, yo, he got, oh, he got, You, Rich Paul, that day you learned fat Joe's, he's everywhere.

That guy across the country. He knew that. I knew that already. No, man, I looked to the side. I said, God, damn, that guy out here nine in the morning. Like, what, we was on the same flight of some shit? That shit crazy. Brian from Akron, you from Cleveland?

I'm from Cleveland, yeah. How important is it to give back? Two ways to give back in ways that's helpful and ways that's impactful. Passing out turkeys and things like that, that's helpful. The impactfulness is being able to create things that provide opportunities. You also give back through education, too. I think what people say give back is like, oh, you didn't give you nothing to go in my pocket. Not a physical thing, yeah.

Education is incredible. What I did out there with that school is amazing. So for me, my give back is I give back in a number of ways. And I don't want nothing for it. I do a lot of things that I don't want. and no pub from it. Sometimes I do things and people don't even know. I've done things people don't even know.

It came from me. But it's very important, though, because I was one of those kids that the community raised. And I was one of those kids that y'all came to the malls. What was that car? The strip club raised you and your best ball. Like, y'all, it was, y'all came to my community strip club. Y'all had a show.

I was there. It was on Cleveland State. I forgot what it was. But anyway, I'll tell you one thing, right? I'll tell you, my father from Cuba. The rest of peace, no, my father never gave me a compliment in my life. Okay, he never said great song, even though he was Cuban.

Thank you for buying me my home 20 years ago, whatever. It's nothing. I paid their bills for 30 years. The only time he ever gave me a compliment was when he seen me in the middle of the street giving out turkeys and feet in the people. He said, that makes me proud. I'm proud of you, son, for looking out for the people. And so there's many ways you're correct.

There's many ways there's ways to inspire. You know, we got stores. Our stores. I saw that with your dad. Huh? I saw that with your dad. Yeah, we got two stores where single parent moms are the managers. One of them just bought a first home ever.

There's so many different ways of giving back and impacting the community. you just got to do it. And the problem I got is the people that don't give back complaining about somebody giving back. So it's never enough. It's never how you do it.

So you got, we got a best friend grumpy Jim Jones, right? But now, Jim Jones gives back. Okay? Jim Jones don't give back because right there, I see him give back.

All the time in the community, whether it's clothes, whether it's coats, whether it's turkeys, whether it's this. He's front line with the giving back. I don't know what happened, but I could tell the lady skipped the line three times. I'm out there. I'm outside. Like, I'm there. I'm on the line.

I see the six family members. I know the more, they all wait for the turkey with the grocery. The six, the daughter, the son, the this. At some point, you could say, yo, you know, you know, some people. He only got one of them. You took six turkeys and the voucher for the food. I know. I just choose to mind my business.

You know, Jim out there, he gets a little mad. The lady skipped three times. I didn't see it. Make him look like, yeah, it's all over social media, but it make him look like he a bad guy because he loses patience. But anybody who, from the hood, hood, know they're trying to skip the line, you know. And so I look at the comments and everybody, we post, they talk bad about somebody, but you ain't given that.

You ain't changed them people. Well, that's why you got to do with fact that being unbiarded, you can't worry about what somebody talking about on social media. Showing the hoodie. Showing the shirt. Yeah, that's what, you know, can't worry about that. Yeah, I do. And I want to smoke, whatever.

But you can't. I want every on your old is you. No, we put in our foot in your ass even when we don't. Yeah, but here's what I tell you. Legendary shit. Right now, let me tell you, you better study this. Because we are changing the whole DNA. This is entertainment.

It's like coming home to watch Martin. A fucking Cosby show. It's just it just, it ain't the, no, for sure. We didn't look one time. So Mr. Paul, when you graduated high school, this, that shit dinosaur. By the way, I told my team, they gave me this thing in the car. It's like, oh, you know, here's the talking points. And I was like, these guys aren't following that.

can guarantee you they're not doing that. We're shooting this shit from the hip. I told him. Asked about life. But, you know, my team is, they are ultra-prepared, which I'm thankful for. But I thought about it. I'm like, just Joe and JJ.

They're not following that. They don't look like our guys. They don't look. What an it's? They just look like. Our guys look like they know what's the boobonic, chronic. They know this, this. Nah, no.

Let me tell you something. I'm rolling with that, Joe. Your guys, they all got the lines there. Those flags out of them, staff. Listen. Our staff is great. Let me tell you something. We have a great staff.

Ain't none of them got the lines like here. You see them shit? He's out of battle Jalen Rose with that shit. He got this shit. Two women here for me. Yeah, yeah, they're on point. Yo, listen, let me say some of your wrist ball, ball, boy. Use the spoof guy, man.

Let me tell you said. But this is not. dinosaur. And I lately because I'm in the game every now and then I lurk and I look at a little something and I say, damn, they everything we know. I'm just keeping it a buck. I want everybody to get a dollar. But dang, us. We're entertaining. We get, we drop in knowledge. Who closest to you? Who do you think? Like closest to us? Yeah. Don't get, no, he's about to tell you

something's crazy. Don't look. No. They're not us. You want to know. Why? Because we're Chuck and Shaq. We got the chips. Kenny, he got the Kenny leg, though. I got the Kenny leg. Yeah. I got the Kenny Smith.

I'm more like Kenny, huh? Yo, this dude. We Chuck and Kenny. Yeah, you know why your man here. You're training here. Yo, you got to show me how to straighten the leg out, man. I can't take this shit no more. I'm out catching my name.

Who he wears, new balance to die. Hold on, hold up. Is there a way your man, the trainer? Nothing else. Your kiss. You can't give him anything. Giant bar attenders. Is there a way for me to straighten out my leg, like legally?

Oh, is it like an operation? He knows about calisthenics. He don't know about fucking bo- He knows the human body. He knows about pull-up. He don't know about... He can't know about... Both of legs.

Both of legs. The accident, can he fix his leg? He can't fix your leg. He can fix your chest and shoulders. and all that. But that'll give you to look off your leg is straight, right? There's a way to do it, right? Surgeon.

Okay. Joe. My son sent me some shit of operation for my leg. He got them fucked up out there. They think of my leg here. Lords in London. No. Up in YC, we got these, these are snow shits.

This is like having a heater or all. These are snow. He's skin. Those are fire. I got something like that's up in YC. Yeah, I mean, hopefully. That's not the way when you get the right show. in your 10th and a half.

That they fucked them. With a storage, I gotta go back. Stores up town, the Bronx, Harlem, Washington, nights. They gave him a 12 and a 10 and a half, uh, Timbo. He came up, me, he was like, yo, you know, our sales dropped after that. Yo, yo, yo, let you know, your word is gold in the hood. Our sales dropped after that. Oh, Lord, ladies and gentlemen, I went back, they took care of me.

They had a crispy box for me, they gave me the right size. Make sure you shop that up. man. Your word is golden. Let me ask you something. Your rich, let me ask you a question. When you hit him with the bounty.

Right now, Kiss is dressed in his age. And to me, he's flat. You know, now a lot of, they call us tweenagers and shit like that. No, they didn't call you. They're talking about if you got a quarter zipper or something, you are old man on that. Now, the quarter zippers. I just copped a $4,000 quarter zipper shirt.

Crack, quarter zips is in. No, the quarter zippers is in. He's looking right at the $4,000 and not reading it. Nah, the quarter zippers is in. They're trying to fucking disrespect. Air Force One, they say his granddad's shoes.

Yeah, I ain't, yeah. And I can't be. Oh, you with New Ballas. Yeah, you like a don't king. You like a Don King. Don King coming in the ring with a Mexican and Puerto Rican flying. Whoever won, that's the shit, he's walking on the way of. Joe, when you put...

He came with the winner and he left with the win. Let's Saccone. Let's Saccone. Nah. That's not going to be like Saccone. Nah. That's not going to happen, Joe. When you put these on?

Oh, I know it's got to do with that. Yo, Rich Paul, you're a fool motherfucker. Watch how you... Joe, when you put the layout, put them joints up there. Oh, no, we want to do it. By the way, we don't have to get a whole. You had to get a whole. old, new...

You gotta come. Everything. I brought a class... Don't do that. I brought a classic out. Who don't do that? You don't do that? I believe...

I don't wait for him to buy me a Daytona. Hopefully this Christmas... Hopefully, my business... No, no, no. I'm not doing that. My business partner to get me a Daytona for Christmas. I got a gift for you, by the way.

I got a gift coming for you, by the... Oh, you get a Daytona? It's in the Lamonts for Christmas. I never said nothing about no daytime. I don't know that a nigga said you. It might be a fucking... fucking lettuce wrap because he's so vegetarianist.

This shit might be a lettuce wrap. This shit might be nobody. I got a gift for you, though. That's no bullshit. I got a nice, thoughtful gift for you that you're going to truly enjoy. My brother. What's a watch? Who wants an extra wife?

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