Joe and Jada - “Skinny” Joey Merlino on Philly’s mob history, RICO cases, WILD prison stories & his LEGENDARY cheesesteaks

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with South Philadelphia legend Joey "Skinny Joe" Merlino for a wide-ranging conversation about loyalty, the streets, and life after the game. Merlino breaks down his mult...iple RICO cases and the 11 cooperators who testified against him, tells Joe and Jada why anyone still talking publicly is almost certainly a rat, and explains how confidential informants operate as a full-time career. The guys chop it up about Sammy the Bull's second life, the difference between real and fake gangsters in the podcast era, and the wild realities of federal prison. Plus, Merlino talks about franchising his beloved Philadelphia cheesesteak brand all over the country. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/ All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:04 Legendary and Icomic. When you think of today's guests, you think of South Philadelphia. That's right. You think a stand-up. God, you think a solid, the visual. I love him because he hates rats.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 in the world right now. You just think of somebody... The man, not the myth, the one and only. Let me go on a little more. You think of somebody with swag because he got that swag. He keep that shit on, keep a good left arm on, a good shoe.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And I might appreciate that. So I got to throw that in. without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guy, Joey Berlino. Thank you, guys. Thank you, my brothers.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Appreciate it. Thanks for having you on. Joey, you ever felt like people are scared of you, Joey? You got your flags over there because he's going to be a lot of flags.
Starting point is 00:04:34 No, what's there a lot of flags? No, no, not that. No, I got to be honest with you because of your reputation or, you know, who you are. Have you ever been with somebody
Starting point is 00:04:44 and you said, I could tell you, you wrong. My response. But you ever felt like people were scaredy? I mean, I think they believe like what they read the paper
Starting point is 00:04:53 and news, you know, the fake news, all that bullshit. They portray as a fucking animal. It bothers me where people I really, really like, I can tell they're scared me.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I don't know if you, if that has happened to. There's somebody that you really love and trust, and you say something that you totally don't mean not like, and you can say,
Starting point is 00:05:15 see their reaction is like they're scared. Like, has that ever happened to you? I mean, if it's a good friend, if you're my friend, you ain't supposed to be scared. I ain't, you're my father. I love you. I love you. Yeah, that's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah. That's how I feel. But that's why it really hurts me when I, you know, say something to a friend that I really love and then I noticed their reaction is like, scared. You know what I? Anyway, that's some of bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Joey Merlin, man, living legend, at least allegedly. Is this an interview or interrogation? Talk to him about fucking Franks and fucking, let me hear you. Let me hear you. Let me hear you. Let me hear what you got to say.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Let me hear this. How's the Phillies? Man, where you fucking were saying? You know, your name way before I ever met you, your name is Philly rang bells like on another, I don't want to compare you to nobody, but here we had John Gotti.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Right. Over there, he said your name like that. You know, before I haven't met you, in the middle of the hood and we got, you know, you got Goddy, we got Joe Lillino allegedly. That shit, that shit got to be crazy, huh? Well, you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:34 We help everybody, so they don't like that. The people love us, everybody in Philly love it. Philly's a different world. Like it's South, especially South, Philly. It's like Blue Cloud. Everybody supports everybody, but it's like a day. You got to live
Starting point is 00:06:49 there. Everybody's nuts. Fucking nuts. Everybody's nuts. But see, like, where you grew up, like, you're from the hood. You're from the projects. Yeah. The projects ain't like fucking Manhattan. No. It's like South Philly, you know what I mean? It's just different. It's a whole different world.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's a whole different world. Different upbringing. Yeah. But to be notorious in a city full of Looney Tunes. Hey, look at you like you're the Supreme Looney Tunes. Yeah, they must think I'm fucking. I'm fucking. They're like, yo, this guy's crazy
Starting point is 00:07:16 than everybody. He ain't about the time he hit him with the bicycle? You know, this shit. You know, that shit ain't no. Excuse him. No, I respect the culture and all that. We got a problem with hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So you get all these games. These guys used to be gangsters to get a podcast. or leisure gangsters. If I don't know you, you're not really a gangster. Personally, I'm telling you. And I'm not saying this in no funny way. If you from New York City
Starting point is 00:07:54 and you from anywhere near the Bronx, Harlem, anything like that, and I don't know you, I have to question your stripes. Because to me, you're not a real guy. Because I know the worst of the worst, the nicest. If I don't know you,
Starting point is 00:08:11 I don't know you on a, podcast talking crazy shit that maybe you was in jail doing some shit because I don't know you, you're not really a gangster like that, right? So these guys, usually by the fault, you know, disgrunt to employees shit like that, they come out here, they start talking
Starting point is 00:08:28 someone's shit on this, this fucking YouTube shit. Oh my God! Once they figure it out, but you guys, y'all got it worse than us. Yeah, they burst. You have it even worse. Yeah. They're not.
Starting point is 00:08:43 They're fucking jealous. I don't even know them. I know what's good with that. I'm with my artist. We shoot in a video at his restaurant. Then a few days I see this guy talking shit about me. Yeah. Because it is.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You snob. Yeah. Just because I'm cool. I want to eat. I want with my family to eat the cheesecake. And by the way, besides Mata Rano, shout out Steve Matarano. Your cheesecake is my favorite cheesecake in the food. world.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I mean, nobody can fuck with you. You come a couple and came a good time. Yeah, I came down there a couple of times in my family. But as soon as I left,
Starting point is 00:09:20 we had like a rat. He got to be a rat, right? Fuck fat, Joe, you pussy. You're with Joe. These guys, but they got worse.
Starting point is 00:09:27 That's the same guy. No, no, no. That's just the one that's their, you know, we all got a defector. We got a fucking, now you ain't down. Now you can't leave.
Starting point is 00:09:40 One of those guys that we never see, They talk shit. These people live in a life of fear. They're at a home, they're at a Dunkin' Donuts right now, scared to death. They go on that computer
Starting point is 00:09:51 and they don't realize they diss motherfuckers till they turn the wrong corner. But we leave it at that. But what I'm saying to you is one day I'm looking at the fucking Instagram and there's a guy on Instagram. It's not you. And he obviously was like
Starting point is 00:10:06 in the game and Reddit. Any one of them talking, Besides you, anyone talking is a rat on your side. Is that not true? Yeah, true. And so when this guy gets on there with this guy with scary stuff, this guy, because I know.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I know the difference. Even if you rat, he did, I know who's real, who's not. This guy goes. This one I knew y'all had it worse than us. This guy's Johnny Depp. What's in Italian, a common Italian last name? last name. Any Italian common
Starting point is 00:10:45 Marino. Marino. Johnny Marino. You got a day to get in touch with me. And this is a rat. Like, you know, he's Sammy the Bulletin. I'm going to do the 12 chapters. Start with little Johnny who got killed
Starting point is 00:11:01 in the cab station. Oh, that, my God. I'm sitting in my pants, and I'm not Johnny Marino. I'm looking, I said, where the fuck this shit take a turn like because I think
Starting point is 00:11:15 I don't want to believe this guy but I think he knows something and he's like it's gonna be the 12 chapters of I'm telling we're gonna start with the cab driver over there you saw this shit
Starting point is 00:11:28 that's all lies it's all bullshit they just want to get views that's why I don't go back I go back I get mad sometimes I go back sometimes I don't even want to mention their names
Starting point is 00:11:37 then they could come back and you know they want me to talk about them. Who the fuck's going to watch? If you watch, like their videos, like the thumbnail,
Starting point is 00:11:45 it's always Joey Merino. Like, they did once a couple weeks ago. Joey Molino's rat tried to rob me. Fuck, I got to do with him. You're right it on me.
Starting point is 00:11:54 But it gets views. That's what they do. Joey, there's a guy that's famous in the Bronx because he ratted on me and big pun. We allegedly beat him up from him over the bridge.
Starting point is 00:12:04 This guy sits in the old-school. I don't even know what, what happened, Joe? Joe, it used to be a tiny These guys can't sit around in the joint and all that. This guy's in the old school joint with all the old school gangsters that really did 20, 30 years. He's sitting there. And when you walk in, there's the guy who told him fat Joe.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like, that's his shit. Like, he's famous for ratting on fat Joe and big pun. But I believe the guys that sit with him in there and know he's a rat, they're just a bit as him. Hey, I don't say that. He did 20, 30 years. I'm just saying, though, what the fuck he condoned him for? That's. If you didn't know, it's not.
Starting point is 00:12:40 different. You know, by the way. Which went to one of them old-combs. You didn't, that ain't kiss cafe, right?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah. It's better. My coffee's better. And you like that it's going to be better. I've seen a clip of him, you, yourself,
Starting point is 00:12:53 you're doing the interview. And I guess they was asking you, you know, I'm partly Italian. They asked and they was asking you about Italians.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And you like, good people's good people, red, black, green, whatever. I'll have another. of them rat. I'm like, wow, that's some deep shit. When I used to write me.
Starting point is 00:13:16 When I was in jail, I went to Beaumont, USB Balmount. Some people used to write me. Bloody Beaumont. Any of Italians in there? There really wasn't. I don't think one. Wow. I'm like, no, they saw it's a shame.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That's none. Fuck, 11 Italians put me here. Fuck, I care of their hair. That's crazy. I mean, it's the truth. I was there with the Prince. Prince, yeah. Shout out the Prince.
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Starting point is 00:14:49 We know a lot of them. And they're all trying to come up here. They all, yo, let me tell my story, you know, this, this, that. And it's the first time me and Kiss mutually agreed to like, all right, skinny Joe got to come up here and talk to shit. Yeah, I love it. We try to stick, because we know too many gangsters. Like, they want to come up here and tell a story and this,
Starting point is 00:15:10 I had it. It's all good, but, you know. A lot of lies, though, a lot of false narratives I always see, especially with the internet now. When he, when, you know, we was coming up, it was none of that. When he was coming up, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And so now you can just bump out some bullshit. You know why? Because my era, when I was in the street, a lot of good guys, you know, well, a lot of rats, too, but not as much as now. But it was a lot of guys took their time. did time with you and the feds and all that. Did 20 years, 30 years, they come back.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So now they got guys documenting that error. The guys from my era, you know, for some reason, everybody wants this story told. Even as much as you say, y'all, we don't want nobody. Remember? Because that used to be, everybody didn't want these shit. Now it was switched to blah, blah, blah, blah. If you see a serial killer,
Starting point is 00:16:05 the motherfucker's dying to cancer. His last day, he starts saying, I killed 96 people. He starts telling. You know, he's going. He's dying. He wants a story to be told. So everybody, whether they like it or not, whether they're the realist ever done it, this and this. They kind of like people telling their story somehow.
Starting point is 00:16:25 He's got guys documenting that era. And I tell Rich, I say like this, and they're doing it. They document all the legends, and they hit one. Pound. We coming with the story as such as such. how we killed and people OD and this, that crime was never solved. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Oh, oh. So you got to be careful what you wish for were people telling your story. Right. And they start speaking on crimes that never been told. And then, you know, a few people know who was behind that, but, you know, that's the 80s. It's over.
Starting point is 00:17:06 But they bringing it back up brand new. Yeah, ain't a statue on that shit. how you look at that type of situation. I see them do a fake documentary on you. The minute I see the rats on there that you know it's fake. Like, so they talk about you, some shit might be true, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:23 how do you feel when they do that? It's half-truths. You're hooked up on Netflix. I'll do a real documentary. That's right. The truth. Half it's true. Yeah, hip, this shit was true.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But only half of it. They just, you know. I was watching the Philadelphia. of the mafia, a documentary, and the best part is at the end. They said, Joy Melino denies it. I said,
Starting point is 00:17:47 that's fine. It's the fucking fact. But they never said in the whole document, like they brought up murder, shooting. I got to quit it. You got feckel found, they leave that out. They leave that out.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah, why, like, I got acquitted, I got convicted. And we told the jury, gambling, which we gambled, receiving, stolen property.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's it. Who hasn't bought a Chanel bag from the booster. Like, what the fuck? Like, fell off the truck. But all the other shit, we didn't do.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And the rats lied, though. They, the U.S. attorneys, they thought they had like, like, they thought they had it. Well,
Starting point is 00:18:26 they thought that whatever the guy said was gospel, you know what I mean? Until, until we did our investigating and we called him deadline.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I mean, it saved our lives. I don't believe that, Joey. I don't think they believe them, either. I think they just see if they got enough
Starting point is 00:18:39 to get a that they really want fucking He said, when you do good for people and they ate that. You know how many people
Starting point is 00:18:46 I got out of jail? About 30. They were, everybody that told on me never got caught doing a crime with me. It ain't like me and you got,
Starting point is 00:18:55 robbed the bank and I saw you that I told on you. They got caught doing their own thing. Like Ralph Matali. Him, his son and son-in-law.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They sold meth. It was his third time. He was getting life with no parole. Never getting out. He told them me he got out and fucking six seven years.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Pete the crumb. He killed 33 people. Muffucker's zero killer. Why they call him the crumb? Because he was a filthy motherfucker. He lied to about that. My lawyer asked him to understand. They call you Pete the Crum.
Starting point is 00:19:21 He was always dirty. He said, oh, when I was a kid, I used to like the crumbs on a cake. The fuck out. We got a DJ Ashtoness. We call him DJ Muston. He does have a mustard stain on his shirt right now. This guy was always dirty.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Pete the Crum. He got mustard on his shit. So they told me what you got? I got Pete the Crum out. he had a hangout the motherfucker they had three dead bodies buried underneath
Starting point is 00:19:43 they found them my lawyer is to want to stay and how many people did he say I don't know 30, 31 he didn't know how many people he killed they let him out and his son was in jail
Starting point is 00:19:51 in Jersey in the state I never met his son I got him out too was they cooperated against me yeah that's how I go everybody that's Sammy the bull admitted to killing
Starting point is 00:20:01 17 people 19 19 having an involvement but they wanted John Gotti that bad that they were like fuck it we're going to do
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's scary. You know, he killed a fucking 16-year-old kid. An innocent kid. Sammy the Bulls. And he never told them about it. A nice family from New York. He killed the innocent kid. He killed him.
Starting point is 00:20:19 He's wearing a fucking shirt. 19 murders on his shirt. He sold him. This motherfucker-upacca make a money. He killed a fucking innocent fucking kid. They make money to do shows. I say, the two rats argue. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:20:30 The other guy. Michael. Oh, Franchise. And Sammy the Buller argue. I don't even want to put it in my outfit. with them when they, you know what I'm saying? But they're going like rats. Like, we got six nine. The fucking this guy brags
Starting point is 00:20:44 about, yo, I'm going to PC tomorrow. I'm pussy. I'll go hang out with all the pussy niggins. Like, yo, what the fuck is going on in America, right? That one of the fuck came out of July. I seen him video in last week. They gave him, he had a chain and some fucking shit. Yo, this is horrible. It's nasty.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I stay home now. You're better off. I'm home. I seek the king. I seek the king there. I stay home. This shit, I don't know. Have you ever? ever felt, let me ask you a question, have you ever felt like this morality
Starting point is 00:21:14 or code of honor that you just have as a family man or whatever as a respectful man? Do you ever think we're doing the wrong thing? Are we ever going to get to heaven? And he said, hey, yeah, they should rat it on everybody. It was all good. No, I've asked.
Starting point is 00:21:30 No, I understand. I understand. That's a sick one. You said, I was going to get to heaven, and they say, yo, y'all should have a lot. Yeah, you said a lot of time ago. You would have had a much stress. I never thought I say, let me go to hell right now. I'm asking. Now, listen, when you were a kid, the first thing, my mother told me.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Don't title tell. That's it. Don't be a fucking title tell. We got a lawyer. We didn't even have money. My mother and my mother's not gangst. She worked in a number spots and all that. But she taught me when we did not have a dollar.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You tell a cop, you got a lawyer. I don't know. We didn't have a lawyer. But she said, you tell a cop, you got a lawyer. So I remember 13, 14, they lock up in front of the whole process. I'm like, yo, I got a lawyer. I got a lawyer. They taught me that shit.
Starting point is 00:22:19 If any of those guys learned that shit on First 48, they all be free right now. Yo, I got a lawyer. I see the motherfucker on that show. I was watching it. He gave a guy, he gave his brother up for a cigarette. The cops said, you want to cigarette in the coffee? He said, let me get a cigarette in the coffee. I'll tell you everything.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The cigarette in the Colby. That motherfucker. First, he was a cigarette. I know a cop. I know a cop. You know, I'm cool with some cops now. I'm retired from the streets. I know a cop who said they caught a girl smoking weed.
Starting point is 00:22:49 She had her kid in the back seat. Just a random stop. Nothing to do with drugs, nothing with nothing. They called her she was smoking the blunt. We're taking your daughter. This, this dad, go call CPS, whatever the shit is. BCW, we're taking your daughter this. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I know something. she gave up some shit with like a billion dollars worth of money Coat shit was all on the news and Riverdale they caught a motherfucker with a billion dollars cash Mexican cartels for a blunt
Starting point is 00:23:19 he says shit I said the other day guys will pull a talk to a girl just to get just to have sex what do you think they would do for the freedom I got a friend who always told me yeah they want to impress the girl
Starting point is 00:23:34 A friend who always told me, never talk. Even if it's your wife, whatever, Gumbah, whoever you want to talk about, you don't fucking talk to these girls about nothing. And you're not going to get buried to you. Or, you know, they ask you questions in these guys, you know, they took, I got, I got shit back from my guys. Like, my guys are fucking girls and they're coming back,
Starting point is 00:23:59 and the girls like, you catching the heat off. Not catching the heat, but just hearing like, yo, I heard you don't like Gaco 147. I'm like, wow, I never said that in my life. Well, you know, you know Stephanie's fucking big rich. And he said that. I'm like, yo, like, I got to like school the whole crew.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Like, yo, don't be telling these girls nothing. This is the shit that these girls are fucking everybody. They don't make shit up that breast a girl just to fuck her. You think, but what did they go do to get the freedom? You know, how many guys I met, they was like, yo, man. up in my seat, this is my sneaker store. They be like, yo, you man such
Starting point is 00:24:37 such, he owns the store, right? I'm like, huh? Yeah, y'all. You're saying he owns the store. You know, lies a lie. I was with one bummed motherfucker. That nigga told his girl one time, we're on tour, we in San Jose,
Starting point is 00:24:51 you tell a girl, yeah, you know, we're going to see J-Lo later. I see, yo. Yo! All right. Somebody I know. Trying to get in some girls' fans. I.
Starting point is 00:25:02 But don't take it all away. you know J-Lo and you're going to see it because you fucking lie. I had to tell him in front of the girl. You're fucking lying. You don't know the fucking J-Lo. You blew his whole night. What the fuck is your problem?
Starting point is 00:25:14 What blew is night? No, you blew his whole night. Is it J-Lo? My sister, you don't even know her. You never looked there in your life because of me. They might believe it. And you telling this girl, San Joseo, y'all, I'm going to see J-Lo later.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You're my man, I don't need J-Lo to hear no shit or nothing. Like, you know, shit the fuck. up, you don't know her. It's like that shit they got now. They got some shit on Instagram, a spoof where the guy's telling the guy, yo, when the girls come over, man, just play along and the girl comes over.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You say, yo, remember the time the guy's pistol whip your wife smacked the shit out of you. Took the candy out your son's mouth and I had to come shoot eight motherfuckers in the middle of the street. I gave your wife the chain. I took off for them so she could have a little.
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Starting point is 00:28:10 like back in the day pride. Come together, celebrate love. Take pride with you, anytime, anywhere. Just ask your smart speaker to play IHart Pride Canada. Stream us on your phone, or listen now at iHeartRadio.ca. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.
Starting point is 00:28:28 What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:40 We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band The four Jonas Brothers Was this is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. podcast point game is about defying the odds.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
Starting point is 00:29:52 because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court licking his fingers while he got the ball.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you. You get your podcasts. I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place, soccer, football. It's home. Why do I watch the World Cup?
Starting point is 00:30:43 That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This AI shit's dangerous, too. How many people's being is locked up for some shit they made them say that they didn't even,
Starting point is 00:31:50 because they had to have AI. They just letting us know about it now and it's on phones and all that. How long they had it and how long did they be using it for the wrong day? I know, like, listen, not everybody in Jill's, I know a lot of guys. I know three, four guys right now. Marty Tissette. He's in 33 years. Dead innocent.
Starting point is 00:32:10 33 fucking years. They all in him out. Then there's two guys, the big arena. Here's a guy. He's 93 years old in a wheelchair, dementia, bad, heart, and blind. He's got 35 years and let him home.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Let me go home and die with his family. He'll let him home. Motherfuckers. I just saw that shit the other day. He was a guy who went in there for a body. And I watched the judge. And the lady told him, she said,
Starting point is 00:32:33 sir, Mr. Such is that your last breath will be in jail. That was her shit telling you know what I get the problem with the fucking police and all the time. We respect the police. I performed for them last week in Madison Square gone. We did the policeman's ball, but let me explain Senator Ball. I want to know why when they get caught, they kill themselves. They can't be the time.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. They wake up, imagine you wake up every day. Your job every day. It's to throw somebody in jail. Yo, high five. He's going for 15. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 We got this mother. Yeah, let's rush in the house. The minute the motherfucker slip on a banana peel. This shit ain't even no real time. They got three years. They kill themselves on the stop. Why they can't do the time?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Because everybody in there is waiting for them. Oh, shit. Why you can't do the time? My thing is, All right, you got me. Or you got to prove that you got me. And I got to get my lawyer. We got to get this together.
Starting point is 00:33:39 We got to do what we got to do. You mean to tell me when you get in trouble, you got to kill yourself, you can't handle what you're doing to people. Imagine every single day your job is to put people in jail. I can't imagine. And the minute you get locked up or you're about to get locked up, kill yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah. Sick. How'd he do it, too? I had a motherfucker when I was in a hole, they had me in a hole for like eight, nine months in Farrington. And this fucking psychiatrist come by. I'd be sleeping. And he kicked the door like to wake me up.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Every day, wake me up. I said, listen, motherfucker. Don't wake me to fuck up no more. No, I got to check. No, I got to check you, I'm fine. Every day, the fuck, he's coming the suit on. I told him, if I put you in here for one day, you'd hang yourself. You kill yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. Leave me to fuck you. alone. That's in you main. Yeah. Oh, that's in your name. No, no, I don't even think that's right. They do that to make you go crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Did it try to break you? Listen to the motherfucker. They'll break you in the fucking, you in a solitary, solitary confinement. Did you go in the hole when you was in? Hell no. That shit, that shit, but like, I would. I would. But if I went in the hole, what the fuck I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Spit bars. I'd be Tupac, L.L.C.? Jay. J. I'd be spitting. the world. I'm like, yo, super califragal. Let's the guise.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yeah, let's go. I'll be wrapping my ass off in the fucking solitary confinement. They do it all night. Marion had bars. They used to bang, boom, that fuck all night.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You got to do. You got to stay sane. That is possibly the worst thing you can do to a human being on the planet. People ask me, what was the whole like? I said, lock yourself in your bed with no phone and no TV. That's still a minute.
Starting point is 00:35:30 At least you know if you're right. You ain't suffer enough you go get to drop a can of chips over here you ain't getting shit No you got nothing No the box is the box
Starting point is 00:35:38 The box is meant To break you down in a different fucking way Like it's not human No it's for like Lab rats Not meaning like snitches
Starting point is 00:35:51 Lab rats And even make them fucking rats Go crazy When they do this I want to know Let me ask you one thing Right You're in them
Starting point is 00:35:59 Not you you're in the mafia, alleged mafia, you put in your work, you this, this, that, whatever the case may be. You get caught. You know,
Starting point is 00:36:14 not to tell, what you told. What makes you come outside in front of a podcast and act like you're still a gangster, you're still a member of that? Everyone, they snuff gets threatened every day.
Starting point is 00:36:29 You know, every day, your horse's, I see snuff. You're innocent by six. I see stuff. I see everybody. Everybody curse them.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I'm going to smash his head. I see him. I'm going to run them over every day. If we said that, I'll be locked up in a minute. They got a license. Yeah, but you're not listening to me, Joe. Joe, this is, this happens to you every day.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So you're so numb to it. Okay, I snitch, right? That Joe, snitch, this, this. I'm going to live in Arizona or in the fucking barn. somewhere you'll never see me again protect what that shit witness protection something what are you doing with the camera acting like you're the same guy that used to walk in the restaurant in Brooklyn and kiss people on the cheeks and act like you're respected and that you still there talking like you're a gangster that's crazy that that blows my mind people support
Starting point is 00:37:27 them too yeah and a major way I don't know they love it see that what's the guy this snitch. What's the name? Joey A-like. Johnny A-Lay-Lay. He's a snitch. Yeah. They support him. And I see his Instagram sometimes because the algorithm and they be like, hey, Johnny, you looking good at this? I'm like, yo, what happened? I thought these guys were banished. They're like fucking Ben Lottin.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. Get out of here. Oh, crazy. Sam me to Bull. That motherfucker killed 19 people. Moved to Arizona. Sold ecstasy to the whole fucking every college. Got another 20 years. Got out again. Now he just molested his fucking,
Starting point is 00:38:06 the girls who worked for him in the show in the studio. He molested two of them. They're suing him. He's a predator. He's a fucking nut. Just kill it. They should just kill him. But they keep on getting chances over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You know, I got a sad story about Sammy the boy. I'm in the club one night. He was hanging out with Sammy? No. I'm in the club one night. and the security said, you know, we're doing the, you probably was there too.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Oh, I was. I'm trying to tell you, I'm on top of the couch, we listen to the music, I got the whole crew, we chill it, and the security comes over and says, hey,
Starting point is 00:38:44 this girl's trying to come into your section. I look over there, Sammy the Bull's daughter. I said, oh, she can't come. Yeah. He says, huh?
Starting point is 00:38:55 I said, let's Sammy the Bull. She can't come in my section. You're fucking crazy. I seen him go. back and tell her and broke her heart. She didn't tell, but she walked away like, yo, like, you can't
Starting point is 00:39:07 fuck. I mean, I thought that's what it was. Like, when you tell, your whole family's cursed. Yeah. Yeah, walk with your head down. They don't even care about their families, though. Like, you know what I mean? They know what they're, like, they don't even do a fuck about their family. That's what's, like,
Starting point is 00:39:23 low-life motherfuckers they are. How hard is it to fly straight? And do you think to this day trying to Oh shit, that was a fucking selling cheesecake. No, no, yeah. I mean, he didn't time. He came out and looked back.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He's finding this fucking business. Are you fucking kidding me? They hate me. I had fucking, I think I have four Rico cases. I don't even know what the fuck Rico is. I have four cases. It's racketeer. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah, but I don't know the jury don't understand. I know a guy that got arrested one time. in the RICO case and he was the mechanic I went to high school he did 10 years all he was was a mechanic he never sold the drug
Starting point is 00:40:13 he never did so he used to fix their cars and they fucking locked them up he was fixing the cars that was transporting the drugs that's what happened stump no but it's I had a friend of mine had a case that he brand deen
Starting point is 00:40:27 when the jury was deliberating they asked the judge with her defendant They thought Rico was a co-defendant. It's the fucking law. They thought it was a guy. They said, which one's Rico? There ain't no fucking Rico here.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Oh, I always say. They named Rico if the Italian guy. Yeah. So Rico, just classify to us what Rico mean just for the people watching. What does that mean? A group of people. Racquetarian influenced a corrupt organization. Corrupt organization.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah, that's what I mean. RICO is a Rico's the answer. We don't talk about bad stuff, but they recently knocked up a rapper he's the first one ever with no co-defendants, and he charged him with Rico. One person. What he told him to himself? I knew as soon as he got charged him with Rico by himself.
Starting point is 00:41:13 He beat that easy. He beat that easy. He charged him by himself. Yeah, there he got, he got, fuck. No, I'm saying with a Rico, he got, because that's, he wasn't even supposed to have a Rico case. Fuck, they had a Rico case. By himself.
Starting point is 00:41:25 But when they charged him with that, I thought some other good brothers was going to get caught up in the shit. They were going to bring them in. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'd never seen one human being, a person getting charged with that. I got locked up on a RICO case in New York, Southern District. In 2016, at 46 code defendants, I knew four of them.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah. I never seen the people in my life. You ought to fucking 42. I never seen them. And they all said you was the boss. I'm the only guy I went to trial. They all pled. I went to trial.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I got a hung jury with the judge hated me, that motherfucker. he will let me play my tapes and that I played. I'm only guy with the, you know, I got two years from making a bet. No.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Making a bet. A bet. The whole world would be lucky. Have you ever seen guys disappear meeting? You don't wish bad on nobody, but hey, they lock us up.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It's nothing's there. I'm there. Jada Kis there. He's there. Johnny ain't with us in the cell. Like, have you ever been in that situation where you just like,
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yo, what happened to Johnny? But you're not telling on, Johnny. You don't wish him bad, but, yo, we can fuck his Johnny. He was splitting the money with us every night. I was on trial for robbing the armored car, me and this guy, Richie Brum. Now, we started trial. We picked the jury. His lawyer made his opening statement, and my lawyer made, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:49 his lawyer got upset. He got an alibi. He was in a casino in Atlantic City. He never robbed the armored car. The next day was a holiday. There was no court. The next day we had court. I go into court.
Starting point is 00:43:00 We got starts like 930. in a hole with like 9 o'clock. I'm like, where the fuck's rich he at? He ain't there. The lawyers get up, Judge. So though, Mr. Barong is cooperating now. He's with the federal government. You flipped them.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I should have never, I fucked up. The lawyer fucked up. The lawyer asked for a mistrial. I should have never asked for it. When he, you know, we gave him time, they postponed it and they told him what to say. Was the, my lawyer who can't kill them. You were here yesterday saying you had an alibi.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Now you're fucking, I'm not, what I'm talking about is not, that. He's Richie Barone told. Yeah, he told. No, guys, yeah. I've been in situations where we're in the cell and where the fuck is Johnny. Like, we're all there.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Everybody's there. The morning shift, the afternoon shift, the night shift, the table, where the fuck is this thing? If I'm on the phone, I'm obviously talking to him. Like, where's him? He's with them. He's a what he called? confidential for me.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Where he just don't go to you. You don't go to jail. Man, you can't throw dirt. One thing I don't do, one thing I don't do, because it was done to me. Right? Back in the days,
Starting point is 00:44:14 we count money, a lot of money, right? This shit made me cry, cry. Because it's like five of us, we're counting a lot of money. And my brother was the boss, and it was like $5,000
Starting point is 00:44:27 we thought was missing. And out of the heart, Oh, six people count money. My brother looks like, yo, Joe, how are you going to take the $5,000? Oh, man, I start crying like a baby in front of you. I said, you think I stole from you? It's my own brother, rest of peace. You think I stole from you?
Starting point is 00:44:45 All these fucking derelict motherfuckers in here and you're thinking, me is six. We counted it again. We found the five. That taught me to never accuse it. If it's a cleaning lady in my house, is anybody, I will not accuse you. If I don't catch the fucking bear trap on your hand. I just won't. I know how it made me feel.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But getting back to what you said, they're confidential informants. Like, they never get arrested. They work. They make $80,000 a year. They don't, there's. It's a career? No, it's a career, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:17 They're fucking, there might be $100,000. They're all over. Philly, they never get locked up. I just want you to know, original terrorist squad. It was a little guy. Volleyball out there. There was a little guy.
Starting point is 00:45:30 that was like number two or three, four in the pyramid. We never heard your name in that indictment and not like that. Just don't. I could never, I will never say somebody's a rat if I can't prove it one million percent, but I wondered. The other day I'm driving up the FDR with Rich, I see you rich, man.
Starting point is 00:45:49 How come Johnny wasn't in there with us? Like, this is 40 years later. Because he still got a good reputation in the street, everybody. I want to know if I drove the bends, the nigger had the beamer. If I ate the steak, he ate the fucking chicken. If I just, why Johnny wasn't with the 46th?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Johnny's still working for him. I'm telling you. There's bookies in Philly. But, you know, bookmaker. Back in a day. Who's so what to say, see, please, man? Back in the days, bookies. Fuck!
Starting point is 00:46:23 The guy's been booking for 50 years. Their house was got raided, took the shit up. They never, ever had to. case that I always went away and never went to do. I got free bookmaking. I never took a bet my life. I'm a better. I'm a gambler. I'm not a bookie. They're confidential informant.
Starting point is 00:46:37 No, no. What's the Dominican do? Washington Heights. Hunter Summers, you definitely know this guy. He guy was at every party popping the most bottles. Lamborghini, this, this, that, Ferrari, through Washington Heights, through the brawes, this is that. They said
Starting point is 00:46:53 that motherfucker finally got caught like 20 years later. He was like, what are you having a year for? like, sir, you have sold the most drugs in Washington Heights for the last 20 years. What are you talking about? I don't know why you're out of here. This nigger told on his socks. They're going to go.
Starting point is 00:47:14 They're told on everything. Smoking 20 years of popping bottles fucking the baddest bitches that this, Lamborghini. He thought, but he seriously, is there somebody who has an IQ enough to? think they're not doing the crime? It's just such thing? So they said he looked like, he said, yo,
Starting point is 00:47:36 they didn't hear anyone in there. He said like, everything. No, he just was like, yo, I don't know why he ain't here. Niggas looking at him like, yo, my man,
Starting point is 00:47:46 you've been feeding the hood for 20 fucking years. You got Labbert TV. You never had a job in your life. I don't know why I'm doing here. Why is going on? That nigga got out of there. He thought it was legal.
Starting point is 00:47:59 fat, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like, is he dumb enough or is IQ low enough for him that really think he was doing something legal? I seen the motherfucker get pinched in Philly drug by drug proof. They put him down as leader. He told him his mother.
Starting point is 00:48:16 They gave his mother to leadership. He said, no, I wasn't. My mother. They locked the mother up. She got life sentence. Yeah, I see that. Fucking sick. And they left it like that? He didn't try to. Just, my thing is, my thing is what I'm trying to tell everybody and God bless everybody
Starting point is 00:48:33 and I say this all the time. We did a DVD one time. They put every rapper. They put every rapper. Yo, snitches, get snitches. Yo, you come or throw you off the balcony. Yo, I'll kill this, niggily. They come to me. In fact, Joe, uh, what happened? Hey, drive with a license. Don't walk in between green and don't do the crime if you can't do the time, buddies. That's where I'm at in that DVD. Right. Because if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime because I got a feeling that law enforcement jerks off, literally bus off, to you telling on your friends.
Starting point is 00:49:20 You don't know how many times they might have came out of, they're like, fuck, Johnny the Rock. He's telling on Winnie, no way. like, oh, went to the bat. Like, because you can't tell on your enemies. If that's the case, I'd have been in jail for 10,000 years. They're like, enemy? You know what my enemies? When they're there and said fat Joe did this and this and that,
Starting point is 00:49:44 but they're not close enough to prove it. Right. It got to be your friend, your family who tells on their mother. It got to be, it's like, and so I think that's the whole addictiveness to it. Like, you know, you gamble, you're addictive. You drink liquor. We smoke drugs.
Starting point is 00:50:02 The thing with law enforcement that they most addicted to is, they don't want you to tell on them guys that you don't like. They want you to tell on your man. We've been watching you, Joey, for the last 10 years. You know, your man, you hang out with all the time, Vinnie this car. We want him. We want you to tell on your man. Then you could go home.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Not just tell. We want you to tell on your brother. Like, you know, that's the shit to get some more. off. Yeah. No, it's fucking nuts. It's scary. Yeah, it's never your enemy.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Listen, I, and a couple guys testifying, they threw one guy out. I know him, like I, they threw them out. Yeah, what they called him lying. But all they did was coming and say, Joey told me to do it. That's it. I faced the death penalty twice, and then motherfuckers went home. They killed the guy, but they said, I told him to do it. Fuck, you need me to fucking tell you to kill somebody.
Starting point is 00:50:59 That's how easy. I got caught with two guns. Right? It was me. No, no. No, I gotta be honest. These cops used to pull me over every day. They knew I ain't have a license, right?
Starting point is 00:51:17 So you want to know how crazy it is? Somebody came to get me. They got beat up. This guy turned out to be the worst guy we ever knew in the history of mankind. But at the time I'm cool with him. And I'm so dumb. I run upstairs, get two guns.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Come on, let's go. Right? So we get in the cone. My man's driving. I'm on the passenger side. He's behind us. And the fucking cops pull us over. Right?
Starting point is 00:51:46 So I go and I put two guns under my seat. Right? These cops stop me every day, the same cop. Licensing registration, the driver. We had the one good guy in the whole crew. He gives him the license. There's no tinted windows. to get out the car,
Starting point is 00:52:01 we're going to search the card, this, that they find the two guns under my seat, they beat me up. You could have killed this, you scumbag. You could have fucked us up. This, this. We go to the prison. I'm dumb.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I'm young. This before wraps. I'm about to take the blame for the two guns. I'm like, yo, this ain't, because these other two guys were borderline, not criminals. I was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:52:24 you know, don't worry, I'll take the blame, this, and that. So the guy I went for, he was like, y'all this ain't right i know the law this is that at the time we were big drug dealers so we had the right lawyers we go to preliminary kicks so we're sitting there all three of us we all got three lawyers the best lawyers in the books and my man's mom's months gets up in the middle of the preliminary job those are your guns joey those are yours joey i'm looking at I'm like, yo, your mom's, those are your guns, Joey.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And she walks outside and says, how does, is this a nigga dry snitching on me or something? Like, he let this mom say this shit in front of the judge and all that. I'm sitting there like this. More to the story, the lawyers start questioning the cops. No probable cause to put it over. No probable cause. Was that a drug area?
Starting point is 00:53:25 No, it was in front of the church. Did he have tinted windows? No. Did he give you a license? No. So why did you stop this car? He said, because that's fucking Joey, the drug dealer. He's a piece of shit. All my lawyers started high five, and I was scared to death. I thought I was going to jail a hundred years. I said, oh, my God. It was like, oh, no. And we beat the case. And the judge, I never forget the speech. I'm one of them guys. The judge gave me that speech.
Starting point is 00:53:55 He said, listen, these guys did not put. that gun, them guns in the car. He's talking about the cops. He's a good guy. You have. Come in. I'm going to charge you for this one. I'm going to really back.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah. So I'm going to fucking, let me not, you know, more crime like this and go straight and start rapping or something like that. Because it's like, you know, but it was illegal search of seizure, man. But, man, man, a motherfucker get jammed up all the time. Joe and Jada Show.com.
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Starting point is 00:55:57 wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Brian heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gets.
Starting point is 00:56:35 gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history, too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, I say,
Starting point is 00:56:52 you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love the stuff. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place, soccer, football, it's home. Why do I watch the World Cup?
Starting point is 00:57:18 That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura podcast network, available on the iHeartner. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you have any plans of all taking it other than Philly and franchising? We're opening one in the Chichester, VA. It's like a hip-hour from us. Then we're opening on Wildwood and a ballwalk for summer.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Wow. That's fine. Then I want to franchise them all over the country. You should. Where do you get the spot? The location. Well, that location, I always liked that one in Philly. It was right here to stadiums.
Starting point is 00:58:42 But, no, when we start franchises, you got to, you got to... Yeah, but when you pick that spot in Philly, because it's like... I live right there. It's my name. The fucking gold market. I used to drive by and say, I don't fuck nobody ever opened this fucking place. They had a cheese state place there years ago. It was some Indian cheese state.
Starting point is 00:58:55 They will fuck sell them. It was so... Man, that I said, it was so... We took it over and we opened up. It's a... It's a pack. You've been here? You know what happened to me when I opened my first store, oh, sneaker store.
Starting point is 00:59:10 We got... We'll be four. It was a better. economy. And I remember that Nike reps was with me. They were like, how to fuck did you know that this location
Starting point is 00:59:21 would make would make so much money? Because this shit was winging off the chain. And they were like, how do you know that this location? Because nobody else got a sneaky store where I do. And me in my head, I knew
Starting point is 00:59:35 all the underground money that's running through that block of neighborhood. I'm like, they don't know that the oil was under the ground in this motherfucker I did I'm from the hood I know where the paper
Starting point is 00:59:48 at where motherfuckers got it and I'm just like yo you know you gotta know your locations but location is everything you guys pick the best location yeah that's a good spot
Starting point is 00:59:58 but you got to like we're in our neighborhood so we know the neighborhood yeah but you got to you can't be any like everybody says oh you should open one of Boga
Starting point is 01:00:08 Boga's like a high end area they're only I don't know Zepic. They're all rich. They don't eat cheese. They don't eat. They go out to eat. They order a lobster and stare at it. They don't even eat the fucking lobster. You know, so they all got money. So nobody. You got to be like in the little hood, you know. It happens to me now.
Starting point is 01:00:24 We go in there and we order all type of shit. I went last week and used to steak 40 years and everybody's on the red of two a tie. Everybody's on Oz epic. Niggas is looking at each other. You're going to eat the lobster. You're going to eat the motherfucker taste the fucking all. Oh, what's this shit?
Starting point is 01:00:39 The spinach, the cream spinach. I might take two spoons of that. I'm full. I'm like, y'all, you know, what you want me to do? Nowadays, you just go to order the food for the experience. Yeah, they eat this stare at it. Yeah, they stare at take pictures.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Order on the, what do you call it? Coke Zepick. The wrong Coke. Coke Zepic. Coke. Cope. Who sniffs Coke in 2026? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:02 What? I see these motherfuckers all bad and they got to be nuts. What? Mad people. You act, did you? I could like this. Kof? Cof cocaine or 2020?
Starting point is 01:01:11 Magic people. And they got the fentanyl on it now too. That's what's putting them down when you get a bad batch. Let me tell you something. Yeah, they got some crazy fucking drugs. They offered me cope one time. I beat the guy up so bad in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:01:28 They never offered me cope again. I beat this shit. I said, what you want? No, I ain't diet pepsis. I'm fucking taking the piss. And the guy, come on, you want to party? This, man, I beat this shit out of this motherfucker so bad because I
Starting point is 01:01:43 know that that's one sniff to fuck up your whole life. One sniff. You have to understand that everybody reacts different. You know there's fentanyl people who touched it. This cops that touched fentanyl.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Touched. And died, right? And died. Everybody's body's different. Suppose I take one sniff and like it and I turn it to Scott's store to some shit selling all my shit. You fucking crazy. They got what do you call now, too?
Starting point is 01:02:18 Crack, who the fuck's the... Who smoked a crack? Who smoked he's fucking from 40, 30 years ago? Somebody smoking crack 26? Yeah. Hell yeah. They gotta be old school crackheads, right? They're not a new age crackhead, right?
Starting point is 01:02:32 They're not a nigga 18, so my, yo, there's some new shit. I didn't even know they made crack. I thought crack was done. They got young crackheads. No. Any dudes. No, you know. We're doing perks.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Niggas ain't got fucking new brackets. Get the fuck out of me. They ain't got no young nigga smoking cigarettes. You vaping now. Yeah, they're vape now. But it's cigarettes. Yeah. It's just the flat screen TV.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Right. I bring you to the hood. They's doing everything. Old school smoking man-made, sniffing coke. Smoking cigarettes. Young nicks. All of that there. Dust.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Pills. Dust. Dust. I haven't seen that nigga Dusty years. Ain't you dust. Dust.
Starting point is 01:03:16 What's the other stuff they used to do? Wet. Wet. That's dust. Wet. I seen the motherfucker in Miami when I first got out.
Starting point is 01:03:22 He ate a guy. He ate the guy. Bad store. No, he ate bad store. That's what it was. I live a couple of minutes to pay a motherfucker ate a nigga with the bath store.
Starting point is 01:03:33 He ate it. He ate the motherfucker's face. He ate him. On bad store. No, no, no. I lived down the block. I see that shit on the dude. That shit was crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:43 That's my own. I ain't a motherfucker on a bath sore. Then I seen another, I seen another motherfucker on a show. They were fishing. And they would catch this little fish, little, and then they would lick the slime off it
Starting point is 01:03:56 and hallucinate. But I want to know who thought it at, like me and you fishing. But who the fuck thought it at that? Let me go fishing. I'm saying, if you catch that frog. Lick it, look it, see if you get higher. Joey Molino, let me tell your story.
Starting point is 01:04:10 What type of shit is that? That's DMT? That's DMT? What's DMT? Dead money. Damn money. Trank with lots of nigger. In your hood, you got the trink.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Oh, they got the fucking Jenington. Kensington. They're fucking stiff. Zombies. They just stay in there for fucking hours. No, it's fucked up. And I went through there before. That shit scared me.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I had to go through there. I had to drive through there. I see it on YouTube. I had to drive through there just to feel that. Just to be like, yo, they were. I don't know. What the fuck are they on in Kensington? Hensington.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Trank. Trank. Somebody's on a horse tranquilizer, they said, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll fuck take a horse tranquilizer. Let me tell you, because you talked about the boat. So I'm in the fads. I'm not doing no real time, Joe.
Starting point is 01:05:04 There's a lady cop. I call her Ronald McDonald's. The bitch got red hair. You know, they force you to get a job, right? So you got to have a job. So my job was in the kitchen. So they got the inmate kitchen when you prepared. Then they got the cops kitchen.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I go in there every day. I steal a snicker ball with the ice cream shit. You know, he got them saying shit. You know, I walk real crack with stuff. I walk up in there. Every day, snick a ball. One day I walk out, Ronald McDonald catch him. It snatch it.
Starting point is 01:05:39 nothing I can do I'm in the wrong I go okay she's like fucking acting like she's this is my house this she's one of them right
Starting point is 01:05:49 she'll ride them that's what they say that ride you so we leave it it's 99 motherfucker's working about to go back up
Starting point is 01:05:58 to the floor I'm in the building you know you got some big elevates I'm like number 90 game more all the way
Starting point is 01:06:04 in the back like trying to stay at it any motherfucker he's who think they rich and famous they could this and this and this is my motherfucking house I'm the head bitch in charge
Starting point is 01:06:19 so like me like an asshole I step out number 98 you know you got 70 I'm the only rich and famous one here you get you got to be talking about me right what if I'm talking about you and said well miss
Starting point is 01:06:38 You know, I only got four months. I think you're kind of late. I only got one month left to go. I live in a mansion on the water. I tell her, from the only thing, I live on the mansion on the water down the block. You started too late. You only got one month time to have fun with me.
Starting point is 01:06:57 What if you're leaving a pine box? Got caught. Back into my 98 spot. You get the fuck up. Get on the elevator. There's a reason why I'm telling you this stuff. I leave. No more problems with this lady.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Six months later, I can't sleep. I'm watching this. You're on now. Home. I'm watching this nose. The one network. Right? Breaking news, Miami Correction Officer.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Those her husband, kills her husband and throws them off the boat. They got this shit on camera. Ronald McDonald. Killed a fucking husband. Wow. The motherfucker would have got you. And throw him. motherfucker off the boat.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Oh, she's in the feds now for murder. I've seen that shit. I said, oh, my God, fucking Ronald McDonnell. What the fuck? I don't know. My life is crazy, man. I don't know how to explain this shit to you. And that bitch went to jail.
Starting point is 01:07:56 She's in the feds now for murdering the husband. You know, ain't called me. The visitor? I never knew. You know, the feds knocked her up. She's a federal cop. Like, you know, my phone rings. Yeah, this is Mr. Cardigan.
Starting point is 01:08:12 I said, yeah, it's Mr. Cardigan. Well, this is officer. This federal officer, such and such. We're doing the investigation on the... Who? Book! I hung that bitch up so fast. I said...
Starting point is 01:08:26 And then I later found out it was Ronald McDonald. They heard she threatened my life in front of everybody. So one of these rats... She was going to kill fat jokes. Right. Bad jokes you wanted to kill. I hung up that. fucking phone changed that number
Starting point is 01:08:39 so fast, man. Fuck out of you. Like, what are you calling me for? But Ronald McDonald, that shit crazy like that. Yeah. They got to be sick to work on it. A lot of them are sick.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Like, they're sick. Like, they're sick. Because the guy said... You want to look up at guys' ass and fucking every day. Get naked. They stare at you. When they search, they strip search, come out of visit. It's a fucked up job.
Starting point is 01:09:02 You want to tell you a story that you probably had never believed Joe and Lee. Yeah. They never strip searching. I was in there they never strip surgery yeah all these other motherfuckers were squatting and all that
Starting point is 01:09:13 they were just like and Beaumont they used to And I was sneaking shit upstairs And Beaumont they used to strip It's going out And coming back in Double strip Going out they strip it
Starting point is 01:09:25 And going back in they strip For you're going to bring something out of paper What the fuck knows They didn't fuck around over there I ain't play Bowma And bloody Beaum
Starting point is 01:09:35 Bloody Beaum You know know, there's levels to jails. The only thing I can tell you is us because, you know, we're celebrities or whatever the case may be. We, for the most part, the thing is most part guys
Starting point is 01:09:56 can control our environment. We got security. We go to certain restaurants. That shit, you did. You go to bloody Beaumont. You ain't control. shit. This is what I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 01:10:10 You go to jail, I seen the video with a guy telling Diddy, yo, he came up to Diddy and talked to him. I could bet my life. No, no. I bet my soul, my DNA, the Diddy would never talk to that nigga in his life in the street. No, no, I've seen a video of a guy talking to him, like, yo, yo, probably telling him, yo, I'm studying them all, whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Tiddy wouldn't talk to Disney. When you're in jail, you're stuck. You're stuck with the biggest pieces of shit ever fucking lived in your life. Guys you would never talk to in your life these pieces of shits. And you gotta talk to them.
Starting point is 01:10:52 You're all the game this and you're like, these guys are all pieces and shit. You see where he's at in Fort Dix? There's like, well, there's two sides. I think it's $2,500 each side. 2,000 of my child molesters. Yeah? And Fort Dix?
Starting point is 01:11:05 All the lows full of child molesters. What? Because they can't go to a camp, because they have a sexual crime. They can't be, you know, their safety factor. So they sent them the lows. They're all full.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I was in colon, my last bit. There was 2,000 guys, 1,800 were child molesters, and the other 200 were rats. No, it's bad. It's bad. You know what?
Starting point is 01:11:27 And they got signs hanging. If you hit a child molester, it's a hate crime. Let me explain something to you. What? They protect. Yeah, they protected. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Listen to this. I was going to church. every Sunday. Every Sunday, you know, I'm walking out to church one Sunday and the Spanish nigga walks by me, gets so close to my ear and goes to Banendo child molester. He keeps walking.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I never even seen his face. He walked right by me and said, de de vendo, like an incredible child molester and keeps walking. So I'm like, I know that's not me, right? So I'm just like, so I go to one of the cops,
Starting point is 01:12:03 the CEO's, the boss, I said, man, this nigga came next to me. I'm coming out of church. He said, did I mend the child molester? And the CEO looked at me. He was like, you know the preacher, child molester. The preacher. I said, what?
Starting point is 01:12:19 He was the inside pastor. The jail pastor. The jail pastor, the guy I'm going to church every fucking Sunday, poppy come by and go to that. I couldn't even see him. He did it so fast. He walked by like a man with his car face. Move.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Trevendo Chamalette. There's a fucking period in there. And I said, and I turned around and I asked one of the CEOs that I know, and I said, he said, yo, I said, Charmala.
Starting point is 01:12:47 He said, yo, they protected more than anybody. They are. They are. Ravendo chalelel. Rambando chalemales. I said, I never went back to church. Yeah, fuck that. I pray in myself,
Starting point is 01:13:03 motherfucker. I said, yo, this shit is crazy. I had a little something. That was like going to club live. You had a little dance. Florida going to the church. Praise the Lord.
Starting point is 01:13:12 This, this, that, the good word of the Father. Then you're going to buy and say to that. There's no, child. Let's talk some sports, man. Snuff. Come on, man. Snuff a berry with the sports shit.
Starting point is 01:13:21 You know what I'm saying, man. Let's talk some sports. I get some money. Yeah, it's not. Snop, you good at this sports shit, huh? Pross. Damn good. He's damn good.
Starting point is 01:13:30 He's damn good. Tresepot's high. Your wife getting jealous. She's working out, too, though. Oh, she's going. Yeah, that's the only guy that gets two haircuts, two different barbers. Two different barbers?
Starting point is 01:13:44 I call him one day. It's where I'm not. You beat me. No. I'm going to tell you the story. You have a lot. He beat messa. You're going to talk of here.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I call him Saturday, right? I said, what are you doing? He said, I call you back. I'm getting a haircut. I said, I call him when you're done. If I were a lady, he calls me back. I said, what are he doing? He said, I'm going to get a haircut.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I said, you motherfucker. He just got a haircut. He said, no, he does the sides. I go to another guy, girl will do the top. I said, something wrong with you. Girls on these snows. Yeah, some. Nah.
Starting point is 01:14:11 The girls cut to top the right way. You know, you made history. Two hair. Two hair cut two to three times a week. Yeah. Two to three times a week. I'm in there. That nigger stood me up.
Starting point is 01:14:25 It was his birthday yesterday. Should have went the hat. He just was blowing up my phone. I knew they got him drunk and all that shit I said, nah, the man ain't come at 8 in the morning
Starting point is 01:14:34 and I was up waiting for shit and went to hat. I'm always getting a haircut. They got so much, you can't move his head. It's like a football helmet. You feel good.
Starting point is 01:14:41 The motherfucker got so much shit in her. What the fuck's in that? If you get a haircut and you're broke, you still feel good. It's just, I don't know what it is. You look good, you feel good. You look good. That's the fuck.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Who the fuck says you look good? See them new teeth they got? Yeah. It looks good. It looks good. You should feel bad for him. You know, you're the problem. Yeah, he got, this motherfucker got beef with everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Everybody, you're going to kill him. Just because he's next thing. Yeah. What do they say? Give it a snuff. I'll fuck you up. Every day. Guys are rat.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I'll fuck you up. Yeah, yeah. The rats are going to kill him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to kill you snuff. One guy said he's going to run him over. Fucking cute with this guy. He'll just haters.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Just haters. Our haters are starting to like us. We got a lot of hate us. I like him, though. I like the haters. They love this guy. Yeah. I never heard one.
Starting point is 01:15:29 person hate on this guy. Nobody talks about it. Never talks about it. I get a lot of hate. Bottest don't entertain it. Let's sit here they fucking hate. Everybody. I get hate.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Listen, by the way, guys. I don't make my hate as famous like him. By the way, guys, we're splitting the same fucking check. He's my partner. You niggas want to kill me. I'm mad at the game. If we get into the bag,
Starting point is 01:15:57 this motherfucker's over here. You're doing all this shit getting to the fucking bad too. You got me fucked up. Are you assinuating you want them to hate on me? No, I don't. What I am saying is I want to know why they're hating on me and they're not hating on you. You want me to answer it?
Starting point is 01:16:16 Yes. Because I'm over here like this with my legs crossed and you're just saying man's shit about them and I'm saying nothing. I'm backing you up, but I'm not saying nothing. Yeah. I'm standing 10 toes with you. Under Zeray, though. Perhaps.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Yo, hard rock bet. Shout out the hard rock bet. We're going to talk to football. How are you feeling about this upcoming season? How are you feeling about the Eagles? How are you feeling about football? Well, the draft was crazy. We were talking about it before we got on it.
Starting point is 01:16:48 The Eagles draft that somebody never played football before in his life. He's a big of football. What is the science? What is that about? He's six fucking six. from my Hawaii? Nigeria. He got 4% body fat. He's 300-something pounds. He runs a 4-5.
Starting point is 01:17:08 You're going to be good. He's going to be good. He's going to be good at him. Straighthand today. He said he didn't introduce straighthand today. He said he'll be a defensive man. He'll be great. He's fast. He sees it in him. AJ Brown's out of it.
Starting point is 01:17:20 God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. Yeah, you got to be. I'm AJ Brown's major. I think he's one of the best receivers in football. And especially he's all. I think him the quarterback people. They got so, right?
Starting point is 01:17:32 Because I'm like, this is the perfect situation. Why do he? It don't make sense. Yeah, they're sure. Because when they're good, they're good, but when they're bad, like, it destroys everything. But for A.J. Brown to go, I mean, that hurts the Eagles a lot. It takes a lot. It takes a lot, a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:49 I mean, there's Devante Smith still there. He's great, but we watched A.J. Brown, I mean, yards after the catch, he's the best in the league. You can't tackle him. You can't tackle him. He asked the free. He's up for Devon. Always. That he catches you.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I bet A.J. Brown every week for a touchdown, especially on hard rock bet. Always. They got the best odds. They got the best odds. It's the mustache. Look, he's right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah. We're chopping your shit. Hard rock bet. What's your father at? So we can clip his shit. He got all in the center. He's the hard. What's he the hard rock guy?
Starting point is 01:18:25 He's a hard rock guy. Yeah. What you're doing crime with this? with this guy. Yo, Joey, would you ever do a crime with this guy show up with the I'm the Fiddler underbrew? I ain't even, I ain't like.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Boy, you have your own podcast. We have a day. Yeah, yeah, we got to come on. We started the podcast. On there, ready. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio.
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Starting point is 01:19:27 Hey Jonas is available now and their first guest is a big one. You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition at the office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to him, right?
Starting point is 01:19:41 Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play. the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca
Starting point is 01:20:05 and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Even as get that thing. That man,
Starting point is 01:20:32 hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium,
Starting point is 01:20:57 the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place, soccer, football, It's home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great.
Starting point is 01:21:30 A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that.
Starting point is 01:21:46 As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the MyCultura podcast network, available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like Embed is sticking you guys up. Oh, please. Oh, man. This is Highway Robin.
Starting point is 01:22:10 He's so good but so bad. Meaning like... His body is incredible. Body shot. Body shot. But he's never ready to play. Yeah, he's never ready. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:22:23 You scared to get rid of him because... The process. You're because... Nah, that's... The process is over with. We're done with that. They fucked that. They fucked that up. Ben Simmons, they took to it.
Starting point is 01:22:32 He fucked it up, too. That's what it. But he just went crazy. He ate... He was on cheese. He spoke highly of... We could have Tate them. Really.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Said he was. No, no. Ben Simmons was good when y'all took him. I don't know what happened. He went mentally. Nuts. Trace McGrady is one of the best ever. These guys don't play.
Starting point is 01:22:52 They played three games. They're out five games, two games. Back in the day, Michael Jordan, I was telling him. Fever, flu, anything. That young boy. Oh, VJ. Hesch. He's great.
Starting point is 01:23:03 He's good. He ain't no joke. Great. He ain't no joke. Yeah. But that's what's fucked up. The most, like Joey said, nobody's playing. Taya-in.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Kiyah. That's fucking nasty, bro. Well, imagine if your family spends three, four thousand dollars to go see LeBron play, ready? And you all get to the game and 20 minutes before the game, he's not playing. You don't give a fuck no more. You just brought your kids there to see LeBron
Starting point is 01:23:26 James for the first time and he's out. That's what happens when he beat all the time. My thing is, with Bede, you got to figure out what you're going to do. You can't do nothing now. You're stuck. Nobody's digging. No, why you're stuck? You can't get rid of him. I'm in a lot. They just did an extension.
Starting point is 01:23:41 He's done. That's what I mean. This is the confidence. Reinvent the process. Yeah. No, no. They fucked up. Now, Tyrese Maxi, superstar.
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's true. Plays hard every single game. He plays every fucking minute that he can. They're going to get. George's. Yeah, he's the same shit. He's over too. He's not playing.
Starting point is 01:23:58 This shit is over too. Another guy gets out. My head B robbed you. Yeah. Big time. Ben Simmons. You got a guy who robbed the fucking Mets. He got paid for 40 years.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah. He still getting me. Bobby Bonilla. Bobby Bonilla. He gets a million dollars. Go for him. God bless. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Still getting paid. I thought it was last year. No. They got to pay him for a long time. He got to get paid in every August 3, August 2nd his cousin. He got his own day. Bobby Manilion. August 1st.
Starting point is 01:24:29 August 2nd, every cousin in the world is in his fucking house. Bobby, I got an idea. July 1st. July 1st, Bobby, I got a new idea. I want to sell mitten gloves. Hot dog stands. I see. I got to trouble with my uncle, man.
Starting point is 01:24:47 You see, you guys don't know. I fall on the sport. I talk a lot of shit, but I got to back it up. I told a story about my uncle. My favorite uncle, my uncle Will. He hustled me for three. Frank for the trucks. I never seen one.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Really? He was going to open up by the hospital. He was going to open up this. He told me in front of his wife. He went to death. in San Diego. He said, man. He dissing me
Starting point is 01:25:10 on the show, Joe. I love you, man. I said, yo, you know what? Uncle Will. Uncle Will, we love you. Uncle Will. Just never seen the cards.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Uncle Will. Got you? I've been scammed for all that. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Motherfucking shit. Now, you come up with some good shit. I got friends.
Starting point is 01:25:29 I got a big heart, so I got friends that have asked me for the most wildest. Like, if they asked you, you'll be like, what the I can't even start.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Like, motherfuckers will ask me to do something for them. It's pretty... It's insane. Like, you're sitting there and it's insane. Yo, I owe $300,000 in debt, this, this, that. The worst. You buy it and I pay you a thousand a month.
Starting point is 01:25:58 I just like, you know, bro, what makes you think I want to buy $300,000 in debt money? And if I don't give it to you, then I'm a bad guy. I'm so want to ask you to pay their mortgage off the other day, right? $700,000 a month for life. I'll be $160 when they pay back.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Well, it's on Instagram. Like, who messaged somebody at on Instagram? Yeah, Instagram. You see? I'm a firm believer you spend all your money. Yeah. I think you should spend all your money and die broke. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And enjoy it. Your wife figure it out. Enjoy it. Because they always, they're going to come, yo, guys, Joe was really fond of Tyrone. motherfuckers don't come in my house, sleep on my pillow. You want to do a hard rock bet?
Starting point is 01:26:46 What's the ratio of a guy dies and his wife gets with another motherfucker publicly? What is it? Is it a year's time? I say, I say last. Come back and be like, yo, he loved Tyrone. Tyrone was a fuck you.
Starting point is 01:27:00 I got a friend died. He was all about his family and his wife. I mean, this guy was fucking shoot a cathedral. for his family. She comes, Joe, I found the guy, Joey, you know, this and this, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:27:14 Tyrone. My phone goes off. That's crazy. I go like this. I say, what's the over or under? Because I'm just like, found the guy. And he said, yeah, Joe,
Starting point is 01:27:24 you know, he's a good guy. This motherfucker could come back. If he could get a furlough. This thing was going on. No, no. He's going to kill that thing. Right on Channel 7. 9.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Six months is minus 1. No, no. Not six months. Oh, that's the hour. One day. Eight motherfucking hours. Eight hours. You give him eight hours.
Starting point is 01:27:47 He'd come and kill that shit. Everybody, probably the wife, too, everybody. He can't bring that. They did them bad? No, it's just you have a wife. You have a family. You protect. And you love.
Starting point is 01:28:00 We think the right amount of time, though. I'm saying we already know that part. It's never the right amount of time or is it five. I think never's the right amount of time. So when you die, your wife's just supposed to just wiggle out and never have nothing. Yeah. Cobweb's in the pussy.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah. Yeah. Cobweb's in the pussy. That's it. Don't fucking go. Oh, shit. One thing you don't do is introduce a motherfucker in my house
Starting point is 01:28:29 with my money. I don't left you trying to take care of you. Talking about my guys like Jerome. Fuck you, bitch. We know. Not now, not never. Fuck you. The motherfucker's coming around in my shit.
Starting point is 01:28:46 You know, he's in the fucking bands. He's telling you, yo. Some guys. Are you kidding me, man? Fuck out of here. And it's happening. It happens. Happens rapidly.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Often. So what you think is the over under on that shit? 180. 16 months. Six months. I think they move on within six months. Within six months. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Even the ones that give the speeches. That's the worst ones. I love my... I'll never love again. Yeah, they're falling in the casket. Yeah. Yeah, I'll never love again. Take me with you.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Take me with you. Yeah, they're holding on to it. Don't want to go in the ground. I wish it was being. Yeah, yeah. Six months later, if you come and through it. I'm hearing that shit. That mafia shit.
Starting point is 01:29:28 In-in-in-in-you. Today I got a phone call. One of my guys, he passed away his wife is fucking. Just call me just before seeing you guys. I said, God, damn. That soon? Yeah, she's fucking already, you know, such and such, such, this, this, that, and that's the name.
Starting point is 01:29:48 What did she do wrong? I tell you what he did wrong. He left a bunch of money. Yeah. A bunch of money. So now somebody's on his boat, somebody's on his mansions, somebody's on his this, somebody's on his God.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Who is wrong, though? Oh. No, no, no, no. A guy comes into a bystander don't know the guy. Jerome is never wrong. You don't know nobody. He's coming to meet the rich bitch. He's going to fuck her and he's good.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Jerome hit the Powerball. Yeah, Jerome hit the Powerball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jerome, it's never the guy's fault. Huh? That's such as.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Even if you don't even die, it's never the guy's fault. It's the guy's fault if you know. Now, if you over here, shaking his hand every day. Yeah. You find out he's fucking your girl. Things might get a little. They might make a documentary about it. Johnny A. like might show up.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Around 836 when I was hiding in child protective custody, I seen Johnny kill a guy because he was fucking his wife. This shit amazes me. I like the hip-hop is going bad with this rat shit. It's normal. I like the podcast space. you know, just, you know, the haters, they just keep coming. And we, like he says, our haters are starting to like us.
Starting point is 01:31:11 You know what I mean? We talk our shit. We talk sports. We talk culture. We talk Philly. Joey tells us his stories. I mean, you know, that's just how we do it. You know, you're on Netflix, right?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Your podcast is on Netflix. Yeah. Netflix is the real deal. Yeah, that's good. NFL championship, early predictions. I got the Packers, 16 to 1. The cheeseheads. That's who I like.
Starting point is 01:31:32 That's the hell of your pick. Yeah. That's Little Wings, Cruing. little Wayne loves them guys The Eagles are always going to be You know somewhat in there But it depends what happens What he James
Starting point is 01:31:43 There's a guy on the Eagles That works for the Eagles A big guy Big Dom, that's our buddy That motherfucker takes kid Autistic kids Yeah he's good man He gets back so much
Starting point is 01:31:54 He's a fucking good guy He's a real good guy He's a real He's a good guy helps everybody He's a fucking good guy He's a fucking good guy bro Yeah That guy Big Dom is
Starting point is 01:32:02 He's a class act You know what I'm saying and, you know how this shit go, man. You know what happened to me? Tom Brady, the one sport, Fat Joe's bandwagon. I hate bandwagon. I got an uncle one year. He's the Golden State.
Starting point is 01:32:22 This is his team. Next year, he's Chicago, boy. I hate those guys. But I'm like that in football, because I don't really know football. I never really liked it like that. But Tom Brady, I used to be like, Tom Brady.
Starting point is 01:32:33 and he's the fucking goat. Right? So I looked at Tom Brady and they were championship games where he was down with one minute left. I said, well, Joe, if he's MJ, if he's the goat,
Starting point is 01:32:49 you're going to find a way to win this shit. And he did every time. But one time he won. I remember I was in Dubai when he was watching him. And I seen my man from Kansas City. He beat him. And I seen his face.
Starting point is 01:33:03 The only face you see like that is on Michael Jordan, Kobe, Ryan, Tom, break. That face he had, the anger he had right there. I said, oh, no. This is my new guy. No. He had this one face. You know, we all got our own face.
Starting point is 01:33:23 But there's an energy. There's an energy. He had this one face that I've only seen. it in the grates of grace. He was sitting there mad. He was in his pocket. He lost it. He just, the camera came on him. I said, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:33:42 It's the next one. He better. And sure enough, he won, like, two, three years after that. You got to have expression. I've got to feel the passion. I got to feel the pain. Kobe had that killer in him. He wanted that ball. Magic Johnson.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I think the basketball teams years ago were better than Wednesday. You think so. Now they got steroids and all this shit. Something, right? They got flagrant fouls. They had no flagrant fouls back then. You got a fight. Remember Robin, the pistons, the bad boys?
Starting point is 01:34:12 They fucking clothesline you go to the basket. They put Jordan through the... I think this playoff, they've been letting them slightly play with a little bit more. I thought you were saying, they've been fucking Jay LaBronston. Oh, but they're on them. Huh?
Starting point is 01:34:28 They're on them. Roughing them up. Yeah. And he said it went beyond, but caught a fucking concussion. Mm-hmm. And you know what they say? This is fucked up, right?
Starting point is 01:34:37 Because the bigger you are, the heart of you for. Man, I'm watching ESPN. Do you know what all these great analysts who make money off of sports saying? Every last one of them? Well, of course it's going to be great. Beat them up.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Got to hit them, chop them to the ground. You got to, I'm looking at the analysts. Say this shit. They hit him so hard. He had his fucking head on the floor with a concussion. That's the only way to be when, Yamba Yamba. The old NBA,
Starting point is 01:35:06 everybody got a concussion, everything. Yeah. It kept playing. Spurs are tough. They're going to be tough. Tough. Wimba,
Starting point is 01:35:14 this is league for the next stuff. Yeah. Easy. Starting next year, nobody got a chance. It's fucking San Antonio for the next five.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Yeah. They ain't even got a chance, bro. The whole team's good. The whole team's good. I'm talking about the whole entire league. Look, got out of the day I seen
Starting point is 01:35:35 I asked him to come Patrick Ewing I never seen him in the interview he did the pivot and I watched this podcast and he was like you know even the great Patrick Ewan how many could somebody give me your stats how many all-star how many championships in college
Starting point is 01:35:53 Jess give me the stats one two Georgetown one one in George town Bill and Nova beat him though 11 time NBA All-Star what else What else? Rookie of the year. How many points?
Starting point is 01:36:07 We would call him a great player, a hall of fame. He didn't get the chip, but we would call him. I'm watching this interview, and all he kept saying is, you know what that guy played. He didn't even have to say it.
Starting point is 01:36:19 This is Patrick Duh and the great. You know what that guy played, everybody. I mean, you tried. He wasn't winning. Like, you're talking about Jordan. Yeah. That guy played,
Starting point is 01:36:33 be a close to second, here's a cigar, nigga. They all knew they was losing. Every last one of them knew they was losing. You know, because that guy nor had been any other error,
Starting point is 01:36:45 we would have four or five chips. We had this and we had that. The point I'm making is my friends, that time... Wait for the point. That time is coming starting next year.
Starting point is 01:36:59 It's wimby, I don't know. And that guy... If he gets to, He got to get stronger. Don't count O KC out neither. Shia Alexander's unbelievable. I love those guys. I seen the stat the other day.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Nobody ever did the Joker. He led the league in rebounds and assists. Nobody ever did that ever in the NBA. Never. Yep. Joke. No joke. He's good, too.
Starting point is 01:37:20 They're very disappointed. Yeah, he's good. Yeah. I love the Joker. I can't believe. Yeah, the team stinks, though. They got. Yeah, but they got married.
Starting point is 01:37:26 That got married. He's good, too. I like him, but he's not enough. He shows up. Mike Cole. Yeah. Mary. He sometimes he's sometimes he's
Starting point is 01:37:32 seven threes. next game he goes 0 for 15. He's hot and cold. But the game in the NBA now is shooters. They just shoot threes. Boston shoots 60 threes a game. Getting it out. Kick it out.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Kurtzry also hit every three. Or miss every three. We like this game. Of course. I believe. I believe the children are the future. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Listen, everybody, this ain't That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise to Joey and snuff, baby. Thank you guys. Thank you, my brother. Thanks for having us. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:38:15 We're doing it again. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,
Starting point is 01:38:28 Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired to be an ass questions.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for. Why do I watch the walk up? That's like asking me, why do I breed? And it's beautiful. The guys are young and cute and fed. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I like watching it with my dad.
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Starting point is 01:39:47 You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Markeep coming to him, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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