Joe and Jada - Stove God Cooks on "F.I.C.O." & Clipse, Westside Gunn, Jay-Z & Eminem rumors
Episode Date: August 28, 2025Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined this week by Stove God Cooks, who's riding a wave of hype surrounding the iconic hook he laid down on Clipse's "F.I.C.O." on their 'Let God Sort Em Out' album. Joe and ...Jada ask Stove God how he linked up with Pusha T and Malice, the rumors of Jay-Z and Eminem trying to sign him, being mentored by Busta Rhymes, and how Westside Gunn reached out to him after his debut record 'Reasonable Drought.' Joe and Jada give the up-and-coming rapper some game and Joe tells a story of how Ludacris helped him avoid getting scammed by his label. 3:15 - Jada's ties to Syracuse 10:30 - Linking with Clipse & Stove God performs "F.I.C.O." hook acapella 18:00 - Stove God's price going UP 26:00 - Jada x Stove God coming 31:15 - Rumors of Hov & Eminem trying to sign him 39:30 - How a label tried to scam Fat Joe 53:30 - Viral comedy show clip 57:30 - Stove God plays new track "Marvin Ye" live on Joe and Jada [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Believe it or not,
is how the stove guard is?
Wait after this one.
Oh my God.
They're going to think you to guard emcee.
Like, you're price went up.
Price went up.
Cook Coke.
reporting live.
It's your boy, Jaina.
This is the Joe and Jada show.
Every episode iconic, every episode legendary.
Make some noise today.
One of the meanest artists out right now.
Hooks is just a side thing.
He does it all.
But his hooks is just top of the line.
You know what I mean?
Let's make some noise, ladies and gentlemen,
for stove guard cooks, you heard?
Welcome to the Joe and Jay that show, my brother.
I appreciate you.
I had an APB out on you for a while.
No, that's it.
Happy good, you guys.
Y'all, let me tell you some stove guard cooks.
Talk about it.
So success took a shot at you, huh?
What do you rather be, rich?
When enemies are broke with friends, success take a shot at you.
You know, man, you're a success story.
man, you know, the plane diverted
and went to Syracuse the other day.
It didn't come to New York.
They was running out of gas.
So JetBlue Mint went to Syracuse.
Before he's going to out the window.
He said it looked nice out the window.
This shit looks so nice.
And I'm hearing all this cocaine talk from you and all that,
but from the window or the plane.
I'm trying to figure out where stove guard lives out there
because it looked beautiful from the plane.
Break that shit down.
Hold on a lot.
for the, I think that's our connection.
Besides him being,
I didn't even know he was from there,
but, you know, I bleed orange.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm honest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been to Midnight Madness, Coach Beheim.
I got a couple Jaded kids,
custom jerseys from the arms.
I mean, it was my dream.
It was my dream.
I was actually at work with my moms
when Keith Smart hit the end and beat them
and they lost the chip.
I was crying.
I was a little kid at work with my mom.
Then he met Mello.
When he won,
that's why me and Mello's brothers like that.
Shout out to Mello.
I'm going to the Hall of Fame.
You knew more Mello before he even went to Syracuse, correct?
Yeah, a little bit.
Baltimore.
But, yeah, Syracuse, so that's like my home away from home.
I tell you, I bleed orange.
How you feel, you said it was nobody there,
no super heroes, super rap heroes.
and you, but you got it on your back by far by now.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we didn't have nobody to reference this shit from.
Mm-hmm.
You know, like, you need another niggas from, you know, like this nigga from my block.
He did it.
Mm-hmm.
You have none of that shit.
She was like delusion.
Mm-hmm.
Shit was a joke for a long time.
Mm-hmm.
He ain't laughing no more.
No doubt.
Ha!
Mama, your son ain't making no cheese steaks no more.
Shout out Steve Mada.
Rano, my brother, he opened up a restaurant in Atlantic City, and he told the story.
He's got one of the, he got the biggest, the best Italian you ever ate in your life is
Monter Rano's.
So he opened one in the Atlantic City and he started, he was crying, telling this story.
Made me cry.
Yeah.
Hard to make your crack, Craig.
I heard everything you could throw at a motherfucker, but he was like, his mother was there.
She was alive and he was like, my mom used to sell cheese steaks out the window.
They used to snap on me.
call me a bum and this, mama, your son ain't make your cheese steaks.
Oh, my God, I start boiling crying.
Like, that was a legendary.
But you, you're not even a rapper, right?
You like a gospel drug dealer.
That sounds good, though.
Wow.
I ain't put those two together.
It's amazing.
It's crazy that when I am rap and tell hooks, it's like, hallelujah.
It sounds like that to me, which is disrespect,
but you know, you're the scovguard cooks.
Yeah.
Who in your family?
Because you really talk in 88 shit, too.
Like, did you have an uncle, a cousin in your family that was in the game heavy?
Like, I always try to figure out how do you know the game like that?
What game you're talking about?
The drug game, the weight of the shit.
It started with my cousin.
Okay.
We just put the shit in overdraft.
When gun reached out to you, after reasonable drought, what was, what was that like?
Gun, gun is crazy, first of all.
Shout out to West Side Gun.
Yeah, nah.
Gun is a legend.
Gun crazy.
Gun reached out and he was working on that awesome God album.
Yeah, stuff.
I need three joints by tomorrow.
I'm like three joints
Telling you you got a classic album
Nobody know
Do these is going
I'm telling you anything
Wes told me though
That shit play out exactly the way you say
You said it
Yeah
On these three joints
They're gonna go back to yes shit
And then they're gonna listen to it different
I did them three joints
We just never stopped
She just went to the moon
Now I don't want to disrespect
you, right?
But I feel like today
it's the same moment
for you. Yeah, yeah. Right?
Because you...
Talk that shit, crack.
I was about to get mad.
I ain't know what you was about to say.
You was about to throw this shit in the air, flags.
And there is one of them days, too.
After they see you on this blue couch town.
We to the moon.
Everybody who had sat in this couch,
yeah.
According to my business partner,
He don't allow people on the couch
You got to be legendary something
You got to be Serena Williams
Is there anybody who come in here
Has been a legendary icon
You my friend
Are a future icon when they get to you
But in fat Joe
Who thinks he know what time it is
discovered you a month ago
Yeah
I feel like this is one of the moments
And it was important to us
Because we
I think
you're fucking incredible.
You're like my favorite rapper right now.
And reasonable job.
I mean, everybody need to get into the stove guard because,
but this, I feel like this is one of the moments for you
because, you know, ghost face just walked out.
And you walked in and sat in the same spot.
Legendary shit.
Look, I'm going to keep it.
God always got his hand on me.
This shit get different for real.
That's why I'm going to be worried about none of this shit.
You know, these niggas trying to spin you with,
Miss your moment.
Yeah.
No.
Not going.
Not going.
No.
None of that industry shit.
Yeah.
Goofy shit.
It's going to be whatever God wanted to be.
That's why we hear.
That's right.
That's a fact.
Real shit.
Nobody can tell you what your future is.
What blessings God got for you.
You know, it's my birthday.
And for me to make it out,
16 years old was a miracle.
I'm sure there was people
who looked in my elementary school
when I was in kindergarten, first, second grade.
And by the way, they see me karate kicking dudes
and they back and all that they said,
this guy going to jail for a long time.
And so God had his hands on me
and saved me through so much shit,
had me navigate so I can relate to everything you're saying,
bro. Some shit just don't make sense.
At all.
Sometimes you were supposed to.
die. I'm not going to lie to you.
Sometimes they caught me.
Ten guys, everybody got to...
I was supposed to die for the shit I did the day
prior.
Somehow I talked my way out of it.
And that's God's doing.
That's a fact.
How did the clips
reach out to you?
Because that right there,
that's what put me on the stove car.
I got a shout out Dre and Kuhlin Drake.
That was your first time.
They were trying them on the clips when they...
I heard, yeah, yeah, not, yeah,
Dre been trying to beg me.
I don't listen to,
I don't listen to these niggas got purple hair, yellow hair,
that all type of shit.
He ain't one of them, niggas, but,
you know, but Dre kept telling me, young boy,
yo, he's just, and I'm like, yo, man,
I'm tired of this shit.
Dre, you put me on to some dudes, man,
they weirdos, man.
And so I hear him on the clips album,
and I'm like, who, like I said, it's gossip.
That's the first shit.
They played for us, and that shit.
Yo, it's great.
How did that go?
Who called?
How did you get that call?
Who reached out?
Did you push, Malice?
The only, um, Zoh.
Oh, okay.
So, Zoh, text me like,
Yo, Joe.
Zoh made this happen, too.
By the way, this interview.
Oh, that's, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, shout out the fashion geek Zoh.
Nigger in the summer with a, with a mink hat on every day.
I'm surprised you took the day.
Today is so cold in here.
He took the day off today.
Yeah.
He'd be having mink hats on in the summer.
100 degrees, but, guy, I'm sorry about you.
I don't know.
Just trying.
to describe the man.
Zoh text me like,
yo,
can I get a push your number?
Like,
nigga,
what kind of question is that?
So we get pushed the number,
push call,
and you like,
y'all,
I didn't even know
it was a clip style.
He's like,
yo,
I just record,
man.
I'll send it to you right now.
Like,
send that shit through.
He's like,
yo,
Farrell had a hook on there.
Yeah,
yo,
Farrell got a hook on there.
He wants you to do.
He wants you to do.
He wanted me to do.
Like a reference, he wanted me to do.
I'm going to send it through.
But,
Bro, I ain't from where we're from.
Do what you do.
So I ain't even play for else shit.
I just take it to the studio.
I play for real shit after I do what I do.
So I just did that joint.
It was just one take.
We never asked nobody to spit, do anything on this show.
I need you to say that chorus live for us, brother.
It's probably the best chorus of the year.
You think so?
I know so.
Definitely.
Fuck all that.
When I say some shit, don't listen to these people, bro.
When I say it, it is what it.
Now, that's it.
Yeah.
Hook of the year.
Hook of the year.
Can I hear it?
Let me.
You don't know what I know.
You ain't see what I saw.
No, you ain't been where I go.
With a fettie so strong, you got to be.
Do it where one I goes.
I would have turn you inside out.
What?
Heard the feds, turned the crib inside out.
Inside out.
I have the roof on you, nigg.
Let the inside out.
Fresh Prince Jacket, boy, I cook them to the inside out.
Oh, we might as well rap.
Likeskin, nigger, running the bass.
Or if you want to rap, I'm not, no pressure.
We don't do that.
But we need you.
You're the leader of the new school.
Let's go.
South of France, pretty bitch in my bed.
We really ran down on you.
You'd be pissing down your leg.
Nigo and Chanel October Rez
She like you should have been a mop
No bitch I should have been in the feds
I itch when I get jail cause I got allergies
My young boys really paint your
Fuck some gallery
I graduated a thousand gram academy
This pussy niggas flatter
How you gatekeeping you outside the gate with me
I'm all here with 30 keys
This life is make believe
Shit ain't what they make a scene
Don't make a scene
Cut the duct tape
Rip the plastic
Like, great. Judge sent him up the stream so long
that boy gonna come on, Kaisa Nop.
Tell him I'm just rapping. I ain't buying blocks.
Hang my jersey up inside the spot.
Married to Selena, she was spinning when we tied the knot.
Hop out in Silk Salina, you see a poking, I can't hide the chop.
Fire fettie purse.
Little homie, you're trying to die or not.
A little bit.
You're rapping a little bit.
You see, ladies and gentlemen, that's real shit.
Man, we don't, you can't come up here and make it sound and
It's none of that fucking bullshit, though.
Nah, but let me tell you something.
You upstate boys, y'all been dressing your asses off, bro.
Every one of y'all been having a fly-ish shit.
I mean, what the fuck?
Y'all couldn't wait your turn or something?
Like, I look at all of them.
What's my man, the Rock Marciano?
Yeah.
He battling SGA for fifth of the year.
Rock.
What?
The rock been doing it.
Motherfucking model.
Yeah, rock been doing it.
Rock always been on that shit.
Yeah, but all you guys, y'all throwing that shit on, what is it?
Like, what?
They want to be fresh, man.
Don't think it's, want to be fresh.
We're talking about.
You know what it is, crack.
We waited a long time for a moment.
We waited a long time for a moment.
So the gazelle is shit.
You ever seen a nigga with bean bars?
Well, we know a few of them.
It's not that much.
Snakes with, that's dumb, nice, and their gear is horrible.
There's a few of them, but it's not a lot of them.
Your man, Erie Spears came in.
He looked like he was born out.
He's a comedian.
Erie, you better get him for that.
Erie went New York, man, jeans, Tim, the Yankee fitted, black tea.
You know what I mean?
That's his, that's what he always did.
He had a fade to it like you got on that shit a hundred times.
How is he going to do that?
How are you going to talk about our guest like that?
He's the best guess ever.
I'm just...
Well, hard to tell.
You just said he was gay money.
He got money.
He just could...
Anyway, you know, it's great you care about your presence.
You know what I'm saying?
Here we go.
There we go.
I think we all should.
Who's some of your musical influence?
Shit.
You appreciate that.
I think he just.
just like to hear that shit.
He asked me, you're going to ask us.
We asked every yes, that.
We just made the top dead or alive.
You know they're going to say, Jada.
Go ahead, man.
I guess this is it.
Oh.
It's like a trick question.
Don't, don't disrespect my flower.
Let me get my flowers.
Jada, I was listening.
Yo, you got it.
Y'all got it.
You three episodes late.
I said it on the song, six platinum.
I bigged you up like never been.
Brother, who's your influences, man?
This guy here, James.
How many times platinum?
Six times splatting.
Six times, you know what I'm saying?
You got to appreciate that.
Yeah, Jada, I was listening.
You know, I'm the victim.
Now, they over there acting.
I stole this bar and didn't.
No, we didn't.
Let this man say his influence is.
Sorry about that.
This is and everything.
How you good?
Cowshold, $103,000.
Okay, see?
I mean, see, it's a line of connection.
I even see Hove calling you
if he's working on new music.
I'm not even going to lie.
No, no, no, I got to be on that.
Yeah, I think you will be on that.
That's a early prediction for Joe Crack on draft day.
Y'all can throw a flag to that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because let me tell you something.
That shit, you're talking.
Let me tell you something.
We went and let me a front if he want, right?
So we're listening to the clips.
No, I'm just saying.
We're listening to the clips.
And I hear this hook.
And I said, man, who the fuck this dude on this hook?
And he says, yo, that stove guard cooks.
But once again, I don't want to take no credit away from Drey, from Kool and Drey.
He's been begging me to hear, begging me, harassing me,
yo, you would love this guy.
So I said, that's a nigga, Jay Beak talk.
So we put up reasonable drought.
And I was like, what the fuck?
is this.
And the only way I could describe
what you do rapping
to anybody out there
that's watching,
it's like when you got a comedian
that's just funny
and they got you
and they won't stop.
They're trying to make you die by laughter.
Like people go dumb on their verses
but you go super duper
duper dumb. You dragging the dumbness
out.
Bar for bar, line for life.
You're like,
Yo, is this shit going to stop?
You're like, you know, this is crazy.
He's just straight, crazy.
I appreciate that.
And so, yo, bro, let me tell you something.
Everybody out there, I know y'all know we preserve the culture.
This, where's that?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, we viral every day.
Like, there's nothing we can do about it.
Number one podcast.
I don't give a fuck.
I came out here for number one supremacy.
Yeah.
They know it.
Joe Rogan, watch yourself.
We talk that white
I'm talking the different white
Yeah
Amy Schumer
Watch yourself
Because these other guys
They're not
Not competition
They're not valid
Bro you know
We
This Jay the kids
Top dead of five
They fat Joey crack
Nigger
You know the type
Of treasure chest
The shit
We've been doing hip hop
You know
When we co-sign them off up
Believe it or not
It's how the stovegarde is
Wait after this one
Oh my
They're going to think you to guard emcee.
Like your price went up.
Price went up.
Price?
What?
You know that shit.
Make a new one.
Price went up with the face.
Some shit don't come easy.
You can make a new.
I think you could do one right now.
You know, I go back to Eric.
Nah.
I go back to Erie Spears when he started doing the fucking, um,
Toney's a shot.
Oh, shot.
He'd make his eyes like retarded and something.
Like, yo, what the fuck?
What the fuck?
You know, that thing is just funny.
Y'all, let's say, Aries, we need you back.
But let me tell you something.
He drew him under the Amtrak and then said we need him for him.
Back.
What did you see?
This thing is crazy.
This shit banter, man.
You know, that's the problem where people don't understand.
Shout out to my brother Jim Jones.
He said he's about to start a new podcast.
You see that?
He just said he had an ice grill for your whole birthday party.
Then you shout out of his pocket.
You're up there.
You don't think how to support him.
I speak from the heart
I'm cancel free
They can't cancel me
They try every week
They can't
Because they know
Yo, you walk with God
Joe, I walk with God
Joe gonna step on shit
Especially you put a mic
In front of fat Joe
Yeah, that's dangerous
You let them throw this shit on every day
You got a fucking barrage of bullets
Coming your way
This is crazy
Like how they're paying us for this shit
I can't make it up
Free money
They said you're printing this shit now at this point
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Who you want to work with in the future?
Kiss.
No, now, Kisbeen, but I'll tell you about this guy, man.
This is to stress you.
It's a special.
It's going down, crack.
You can't block this one, baby.
It's going to, I ain't blocking it. I ain't blocking it.
It's going to, I just need some of that residue when I start working.
Ladies gentlemen, middle, men, we got to do that.
Get scared now.
Get scared now.
It's going to go ahead.
I ain't going to hoot with that on.
I'll fuck with that off your last album.
That shit.
Dre was on the hook.
Which one, the intro?
Yeah.
I called Drake.
I called Drake after that, like,
you got all shit
Martin on this shit.
That sounds like some shit I'd be talking.
See?
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Only problem is, though,
because he does it to me all the time.
You know, in 93,
I had a record called drugs is the key to success.
Definitely.
I was talking that drug shit in 9-3.
You hear what I'm saying?
Drugs is the key to success.
Money is the key to sex.
Life is ginkin' mode, getting wet.
The games people play.
The names people slay.
It's just another, an ordinary day.
Once for the cash, dues, for Zabri Bluntz,
streets for all the 40 crews, corner crews, devourous for the drug sex and power.
I be the top dollar scholar, rock and go collars.
Why are you trying to sip the juice?
I'm taking swallers, step in the zone and get blown.
My name is internationally.
Yo, man, I've been talking this drug paraphrase.
shit. That was 93.
93. And I was in
Fayetteville, North Carolina
every weekend. They must
have sold a lot of drugs.
93, I was in 12th grade.
That's when I came out.
I was in 12th grade. That's when I graduated.
9.3.
He jumped off the porch before you.
He older.
I copped the
Flojo cassette.
I'm one of them. I'm like, so he can't.
He mentioned what you love, no. He's my
Superior.
He holds this show of you,
I got to respect my elders.
That John Blaze video,
you was looking really young
in that John Blaze.
I was.
He's trying to make all this year.
You were not as to ball,
big pun,
break on it.
Bless me to be on the nice.
You see,
because they shitted on me
on the last show.
Jada and them
they made too much fun about me.
They was like,
but you know,
that's my brother.
I've been working with him
and the whole,
um,
locks for a thousand years
of style.
He says his love.
He came to the party.
Yeah, Pete was...
Somebody had to...
They're my brother and sister.
They had to represent.
I was working.
He set out chemistry.
He can't...
Oh, he hits me every day.
Yo, you with this crack.
Yeah, he got B-Wiwit.
He's an avid watcher, a repeat viewer of...
Yo, Stiles was tough, baby.
I didn't know he was watching.
I'm in here talking shit to the cameras.
I don't know who's watching.
He watched the show.
Yo, Gosey's came in here.
He knew every episode.
He was like, oh, yeah, that's crazy.
y'all I love this shit this somebody really watching
rookies of the year
that's right
number one with a bullet
what's up with the stage how is your stage show
how you like you know
shit dope the shit about the like what we do
is like you get to build that shit for real
with your fan
from the roots
really built it because you know this niggas
with big records that
can't do 500 room
facts that's a fact
so the way
I got to do it through west and through the
Brazil the shit
really like
build that shit
from the ground
with the fans
Mm-hmm
They was
In my damn
niggas late man
Mad at you
Because that's how
They was mad at us
Yeah
Spend some time
With Buster
What did you learn
How are you able
To apply
What you learned
Spending time
With Buster
What was that like
That nigga
Bust
You got a fucking
Workaholic
And they're gonna take
A day off
I think it turned me off
From that
I can't
You do that night studio shit, though.
You go on the day?
See, we got more.
I can't do that night shit.
I can't.
I can't.
I ain't, I ain't one of them.
You ain't like that?
I do the night.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, nowadays I do the day.
Yeah.
But for the most of my career, they taught me.
I only did what they taught me.
Yeah.
So they would be like, yo, you walk in the studio, 9, 10 o'clock, talk shit for two hours, start at 12.
Yeah.
I did that my whole life.
But now I'll go in the day.
I need the day.
That's how Bustle's the deal.
He's like...
My voice changed after a certain
130. I sound like
lean a horn.
I can't be in. That nice shit.
You know Buster Rhyams, he still live
like what he's trying to describe
with y'all. He still live
like he's a 19-year-old
rap. So he in the
studio every day creating like
he's 19 years old. How does rap
in the game going for the home run?
this is that every day of his life that's what he do um and so his work ethic i mean i mean
he ain't gonna stop how about that bus lines will never ever stop i don't see it but now so
when i talk about you and people act like they don't hear me but they hear me yeah they act like
they're not listening but they're listening they all start calling me and they say well you know stove god
was approached by
maybe these are rumors
they're like you know
I think Hove and them approached them
Eminem
everybody tried to sign you
at some point
but you on like a contract
that is like hard that
let me explain that to me man
game is disgusting
say that again for the guys down the block
the game is disgusting
you don't know it
just like everything else
you don't know until you know
The one thing I'm not going.
Like I said, you got, don't miss your moment.
I do this very well.
I do some other shit very well.
I'm not, if I ain't comfortable, we ain't going.
So, yeah, I don't got some calls from,
I ain't never got the call straight from hole, but close to it.
Yeah.
Shady, F. Jam.
Everybody not reached out.
they're talking the right
they're talking it right there
oh no they're talking
he's just stuck in it
he's just under a situation where
you know there's a volatile partner
who
that's one of the wacky shit
me and Jada always talk about that
the politics of the rap game
be like the wackest shit
in the game
and this industry I loved earlier
you said man fuck this industry
fuck and it's so true
man because when you coming up
and you sign to a label
and they start putting their two cents into shit.
Who called me one time?
This made me like 10 years ago.
What's the guy named Khalid?
His name is Khalid the singer.
Oh, yeah.
I went to a show.
It was sold out.
Madison Square gone, went with my daughter.
Next day, he sent me a song to get on.
I got on it.
He was honest enough to call me back and be like,
yo, my label said, you're too old to be on a song with me.
You know, I'm sorry about that.
just wanted you to hear it from me and this and that.
And I was just that 10 years ago.
So I'm looking at it.
That's just how fuck niggas just, fuck your vibe up.
You know, they always got something saying.
I swear to you all.
10 years ago?
10 years ago, they was like, yo, they told him,
yo, you young, you're the new, whatever.
Who gives a fuck?
It's just, I'm talking about the fuck shit that go on in the industry.
In the industry rooms.
So in the industry rooms, you know, they always play.
I've been in so many industry, so many meetings where you've got 12 guys.
Somebody plays the song and everybody's like, yo, it's always dope.
And it's just one.
Just one.
One guy or one girl would be like, I don't know if.
Then it turned into four, six, ten.
So everybody like bandwagoned that person.
Yeah, because, listen, guys, yeah, I'll take this shit right now because people watch the show to learn.
Yeah.
Listen, guys, if God graces you with the opportunity to get a job where if your life is A and on, if your life is videos, movies, whatever, or whatever, to change the world to be in position.
You know how many people I've seen in a position of power in this.
industry and never pulled the trigger once.
This is the president of, let's say, anything, capital records, right?
And the man don't sign nobody in three years or four years or make no moves.
Like when you're coming up in the game as an executive, right, you finally get in position
and then you get gunshot.
They get scared to make certain moves.
You could be the hardest artist in the world.
and they scared to pull the trigger.
Do me a favor.
If you ever get to a place
of that importance or excellence,
what are you scared of?
If you're the A&R
and the girl's popping,
make a land at her show
in a pink helicopter.
Blow the bag.
Invest in yourself.
Blow the bag.
I like that.
I like that.
This is the only game for real?
Huh?
It's the only game.
game where they don't believe in you until you prove yourself and then you're supposed
to do business with these same niggins that didn't believe in me like I don't get this
shit I'd be like fuck these no no then they get in the middle of your album is say saying like
this or you some did you did you see that producer yeah yeah did they start fucking with your
shit like they're somebody like they ever did something not you're going to get to that
like they're the culture I'm just telling you in the normal
In the normal rap game, that's what they do.
All of a sudden, somebody wanted to tell you, you know, we'll talk about something
uncomfortable, right?
Really uncomfortable.
But for all the shit Kanye West was saying and all that, and I don't agree with
hate and nothing like that.
The one part I heard in his one rant that made him like, you know, he said, I'm making
this company.
hundreds of million, billion dollars,
and they got a guy that makes $60,000 a year
trying to tell me what to do.
So A&R, so y'all can understand how wild this sounds to y'all.
Some artists is getting $150,000 a show on the regular,
coming up in there,
and you're a $5 dude trying to tell me what the fuck to do.
We're not seeing life the same way.
we're not in the same lane
we don't look at life the same way
so how are you going to tell me
what beat I should I'm on what should I say
what shouldn't I say
and that's where that whole shit come
and then in our time and I've seen
somebody say
sometimes I really respect what he say
but he said that the A&R
should be a superstar
because they'll get
bro
rappers are rappers they're the superstars
they're the artists
you know when you got dudes in the
record company thinking that they
got to be bigger than the artist
you know like probably
pop more bottles than the artist
and go up in there and act like they
somebody and all that
yo bro just get the job job done
at the end of the day the success
your success
speaks for you
your success
speaks to you
the more successful you are
the more revenge you get the more
you know what I'm saying
And so people don't know how
to not get in their own way
and they just got too much to say.
I guess that's what's going on, man.
I'm sad.
Just made me sad.
No, I'm keeping it real.
You know we all dealt with that.
The game is all with the game.
This is one of the most discouraging games.
Yeah, now that's a fact.
You know what I mean?
Because where we come from is the money ain't right.
His hands and feet.
You can't do that.
Yeah, that makes you more steaming because now it's like somebody that I know in real life
would never be able to do this to me.
It's sitting behind this desk telling me what the fuck they do.
I want to grab his throat and I can't.
And then that causes some other shit.
Man.
So it makes you stronger.
It's nasty, man.
The game is filthy.
Let me tell you something.
I've got a story.
for you.
Another one?
No, this is a big...
You don't want me to tell this?
Yeah, I'm just...
I'm dropping gems right now.
That's what I'm here for.
Yeah.
This stove gone 101,
but I'm just telling you
what happened to me.
Yeah.
Right?
So one day I'm in my...
Two, three lawyers ago
and shit.
I'm in the office.
He used to...
He used to be Ferell's lawyer.
He used to be ludicrous's lawyer.
The Wootz...
Anybody who was big
was with him. So I walk up in the lawyer's office, and they pop in champagne. And
ludicrous tells me, yo, I just signed this deal for like $2 million. Because believe it or
not, I know you younger than us. There was a time ringtones didn't exist. So if your phone
rang, it was just the ring. So they invented the ringtone. But the contracts in all of the
record labels did not have
that in the writing because it did not
exist. Like AI wasn't like it was
five years ago now.
So in the contracts,
they fucked up. They didn't have
ownership of your ringtone.
Ludacris understood that.
As fucking smart as he is, I just seen him on a yacht
jogging on the treadmill
on the fucking Costa Rica somewhere.
He's jogging on the butt.
He's really smart. He tells me,
Joe, there's this thing.
He breaks it down to me.
You know, Joe's the thing.
Mean retails.
I just got two million this.
It's that cool.
I go to Atlantic Records.
I'm going to say the name.
I go to Atlantic Records where I was signed.
And I'm supposed to do press or some shit like that.
So some girl comes down.
She's their assistant to the president.
Should I say his name or I could get sued for sending this story?
Oh, yeah.
You don't have to say it.
You said Atlantic.
Just leave it at that.
So the boss sends their assistant there.
She says, yo, the man upstairs
that's sign right here.
I said, I'm not thinking nothing ever.
I said, yo, tell him, Mandy, you know,
you know my lawyer, just send it to him, no problem.
They never, ever in their life, ever did any type of legal work with me
and not go to the lawyer.
Never in the history, but I don't know.
I ain't thinking about it.
So he comes back down, they come back down.
He comes down.
He got a thousand workers.
So everybody's scared of their job.
So he comes down and says, yo, Joe, you know,
there's some shit that we need you to sign
there's a thing called ringtones
and um
and we own it and this and there
I said my man
suck my dick
the whole office looked at me
like huh
everybody was looking I said
you can suck my dick
my nigga
Frankston
your bro
the man listen
you just said right now
you started this whole story
you just said
you was talking for the last three hours
I didn't say shit.
You said there's guys that will play behind the desk
the games that they'll get hung for on the streets.
Yeah, that's true.
If they did this, they'd be dead.
That's a fact.
This guy just told me, hey, there's some core ringtones who I got love for,
ludicrous.
I just got two million.
They was popping champagne 20 minutes before I get in there.
The dude trying to scam me in to sign my rights away.
For something I know, this man just got two million.
I got no choice
but to tell him to suck my dick
in front of his whole workers
everybody get the fuck up out of you
before you get a foot up your ass
nigga, fuck out of you
the whole office is looking like
oh my God
shit like the wild wow
way
they're ready to scratch
they're ready to snatch
their wings hats
every day
motherfucker right
but listen
he go up
then Leo Cohen comes down
who's the chairman
of Warner Brothers
Joe
we feel like this is the right
of the label and this
and he even told me some shit
and I ain't trying to throw you under the bus
Leo because I got too much love
and respect for everything you're actually
not in this equation
but Leo says yo I met
with all the enemies
Republican Democrat Independent
we all met
and we all agree that we own these ringtones
so we're going to do this to
all the artists and change
all the contracts.
I said,
Leo,
I have so much
respect for you,
brother.
Well,
you know,
I just left
my lawyer's
office and
ludicrous just
did a $2 million
deal.
This is what you
asking me to do.
You're like
trying to scam
me out of my
rights.
So, well,
if you don't sign
it,
you know,
the bottom line,
at the end of the day,
I stuck
the niggas up
for M's.
And they made me
sign a contract
that said,
don't tell no other
artists,
we gave you the money.
But I was
like, yo, I need M's.
I need
you're not doing that to me, so they made me
sign the paper, and I guess
I couldn't get sued. I mean, I guess
what I signed was the NDA or something
20-something years ago they said,
yo, Joe, don't tell nobody.
I knew y'all stole my shit.
Oh, no, they stole your shit.
I think all artists can go back
in time after this gem,
stove guard 101,
and look up, did they have the right
of your shit back then.
You're going to get one of them
boss over the head. You're going
to get one of the executives boss over
the head for that. Because I don't take that.
You know, I've played with refrigerators and sinks
and all.
I play with kitchen. We got
stove guard cooks here. I play with kitchen
applies, microwaves
and shit like that, man.
Air fryers and all that off the roof.
Your air fryers make a
mean chicken wing.
Yo,
you know, air.
Air friars make a mean shit.
You would never believe the air fire makes some wings
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You once said, if I bring them into my world, it's over.
Yeah.
What does your world consist of that makes it so compelling?
I still, I also, that should be every artist.
If you can get the people to your world, it's fucking old.
I think I said that back when I was fucking with Bustles.
You were trying to do the single shit.
I'm like, yo, that shit ain't going to work for me.
Mm-hmm.
I need a body of work, yeah.
I got a brain man, yeah.
So they can really understand it.
Just like, when you heard,
heard this shit five years later if I bring a man so they understand like this world
this shit ain't like that shit they're doing but once you hear it's like everybody
talk drug shit but everybody can't talk that shit not the way you do it you know what I'm saying
not the city without the jersey this shit his shit like like all I can say from a guy who grew
up in the streets to sound like fucking street gospel like when I hear you
That's what it's supposed to be.
That's shit incredible.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And so your man, Westside Gunner, they say he's the one guy that could get you on records.
But they stick him up too, though.
Or everybody got to pay.
Stick him up.
Yeah.
They stick him up too.
I'm brother, like, he's paying to make sure I'm heard.
Mm-hmm.
That's what I said.
Like, gun might be one of realist niggas in this shit.
Yeah, you got to love him, man.
He's paid.
He's been paying to make sure they hear me.
like, nah, you got it.
You're like, what you're going to do?
Just sit around and get on this.
Why are you putting that?
That's what I told.
Five songs, sevens, whatever.
Because we was figuring out my shit.
You know, we're trying to get shit right and make shit right now.
But he was figuring that shit out for a long time.
And during that little drought,
West, like, nah, we're just going to put fun of you through this shit.
And when they come, they come.
I'll take care of you.
That's a fast fly.
Whenever my brother need me, I'm near.
That's a fish.
Wow.
After all the co-signs, it collabs, though,
what motivates you to keep pushing?
Because right about now,
your DMs and phones and email got to be.
Trader kiss hit you up.
Off the fucking, yeah, I definitely hit him.
I hit him in the DM.
Trader kiss said.
I hit him.
I brought you up.
He was like, I've been looking for him.
I'm going.
We're going to do so.
We got to join, though.
Yeah.
But it ain't, I need it.
No, he needs that.
We got shit.
We're on shit.
Man, they got to hit it so strong enough.
Man.
Yo, he need that.
That's it.
Run that.
When you run, when y'all edit this, send me that melody.
Whatever that shit just was was.
Well, that was your shit inside out.
Sitting with it and with it inside.
You know, I'm a, I fuck up everything.
He's a stings the clip.
Yeah, yeah, I'll fuck up everything.
I can't, I don't even know my own lyrics.
I was surprised.
early, I start spitting.
I remember.
I don't even remember my own shit.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Well, you see yourself in hip-hop history
when it's all said and done.
What do you want to leave to the people?
If she can go the right way,
I think I could be one of the ones.
Not if it could.
It's going, go.
It's going.
You stand firm or are you standing firm on it?
You ain't going?
Don't go.
And let them.
them come to you, everything else
going to go.
Everybody goes.
So somebody got to be the one
to say, I ain't gone.
It's hard to not go sometimes.
Yeah, it's hard to not go.
Especially once you get here and they,
a million.
It's hard to not go.
They put the fishing rod with the check on
the checkbook out there.
Absolutely.
Yo, I saw a clip.
Uh-huh.
of you at the comedy show.
Yeah, yeah.
You had your girl with you and all that.
And that shit went viral.
And I was like, yo, this stove guard right here.
Man, man.
You're a good sport like that, huh?
Yeah, I let him rock.
I'm saying I stumbled in there.
My wife was there.
I stumbled in there off the plane on some drunk feel like.
Yeah.
So I was just letting you, like, I ain't even know.
Once you late, it's, it's the, it's the,
No, no, once you late.
Because it's like, you're the only one coming in.
And then I'm like this.
I come in there like this.
Yeah.
So that's how they were looking.
Right, like.
What is this?
Joe, it happened to me.
I told them the story.
I told them all the story.
It happened to me in front of the Beacon Deer.
It was like 5,000 people.
Yeah.
Nigginsity squeezed donuts on my head.
My back of my neck looked like Frank's.
He was on a fucking.
And he would not stop.
You fake heavy D-ass, nigga, this, that.
There's a flow Joe is the whole shit.
I'm saying, wait a minute.
That's the fake heavy D fat Joe.
Fuck this, nigga.
Like, yo, they was killing me.
And I sat in that chair and it just kept sinking in the chair.
I kept sinking in the fucking chair.
Yeah, that's some good sports shit right there.
What's what we name?
Cipher song?
Mm-hmm.
He got to start a class on how
the hell rappers deal with these comedians, man, at these shows.
Fuck this shit.
I ain't doing that shit.
No, but it's...
You won't get me twice, man.
No, it's really, really dope.
You know what's crazy is a shout out to Casa Nott, right?
So, Casa Nott, he did some university shit or something.
And streaming university, he was giving classes
how to not get got by,
I don't think we want to say a thought,
but a young lady, whatever.
And they was in there, she was like, hey, babe,
I just saw this watch, this, that,
and they said, stop!
And the dude would be like,
around this time is when you ask what kind of watch.
Babe, what kind of watch, AP?
Hold up.
You hate APs.
It was anything else you might go.
go for it, but AP watches.
Not your thing.
They whack this.
Hey, anything but AP.
I don't like the Nets was
given a fucking, like
a college class.
I thought it was the smartest shit in the world.
The man wound up saying this bank
account, something happened to it.
He can't send no money out, right?
Like, it was out of control, but it was all right.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
And so that could be some shit,
some dudes and don'ts.
of a hip hop like a university
That's what we need
But you got cooking right now
I got two albums done
I'm working right now
So I tried
You know I handed those in
That shit with the hold up and all of that
So I just started working again man
You know me and gun working on some shit
And I got another solo album I'm working on
Whatever we gonna do
No doubt
Jada kids finesse this way
We're going
What?
What can this be a mutual agreement?
I mean, we all
Now I feel good, man
You got a joint here
I want to hear a new joint from you
The world ain't here yet
Which James had? He broke out
Or y'all got it? I'm ready
Listen, babe
That shit, man, and don't with no interruptions
That's why we're going to do this to her shit.
If the way ride
Then we straight ride
I get money kid
Cutty day nice
N' nigga shit happy, niggins
Why you playing?
I hear every whisper at these fuck niggas
saying make me leave in the proud of trench
With the can
They grab us, we better get comfy first day
Because I'm all cooking and weighing
They're more funny like the wands
Because I'm on the wayin
You don't know, that's the same trap they put yin
You don't know, that's the same champ
I have my yin
Weird
Clearly I'm on
How they gonna bury your guard?
Deep in the pot, stretch of my arms.
I made it 14 and a half ounces.
The scale said 4-1-1, then Mary came on.
Water with rain drops, splash on the bench.
Get bitch, die fast.
Do that shit a kid.
Mama, them ain't killers, them my friends.
Them ain't don't dealers, them I see.
Stove cool tray like old Snoop Dreelike.
Murder was the case that they gave me in the race.
If I die now, my plug will still haunt you.
If me die or not, I have them shooting up his way.
They want to put their feet in my kicks.
But they shoes in my prints.
They want to see a stamp on my bricks.
They study in the way my wrist twist.
Studying the fucking.
Say you let me lie to me sweet.
Devil lost snitched in my seat.
Powder footprints falling off my feet.
If the way right, then we straight ride.
I get money kid cutty day and night.
If the way right, then we straight ride.
I get money, kid Cuddy, day and night.
One verse.
What we're doing?
Stove, you might have a bigger problem in that song.
I see you shout out Kid Cuddy.
That niggins tell him.
He didn't say Kid Cuddy day and night.
He didn't say, Kid Cuddy.
He said Kid Cuddy,
references to the song.
He ain't thinking about nothing else.
Sheesh.
This guy.
That's the groundshogs day.
That shit.
He got up there?
Don't mind me, Stove.
Don't mind me.
You know, I woke up today,
and the first thing I said was,
he said,
he said, Fredo, I knew it was you.
You broke my heart.
You broke, you said,
father up.
Like, you know what I mean?
These guys out here,
he's ugly, man.
God's taking the stand
against their kids,
shit like that.
This shit out of control.
Listen,
me.
That's a smash right there.
That's a smash right there.
That's one.
Stoveguard cooks, man.
Thank you for blessing us.
Coming up on the show.
Yo, what would we call it?
The 87 North?
Because I've been, like,
like the high.
way up to
Syracuse
is 87 north, right?
What is it?
Eighty-seven turns into
81? Well, up here
is 87. Like in the Bronx
going, there's only one way to go to
and that shit is the 87
all... So 87
probably turning 81.
87 turned 801. So it's
fucked up. I bleed orange.
Damn, man. Melo. We do. Well, you do know
the coach. What's the name of the coach?
Ortery. Red Orchry
right now.
He played for me.
I know that he's on polo ground.
He played for me.
I mean, I stole him.
Your coach played for me.
Yeah, we know that.
Yeah, Red Archie used to play for.
Man, everybody that,
if you ain't figured it out yet, Stowe.
Yo, Joe, tell these things I need the floor seats.
Where?
You ain't got it at Syracuse?
I got that.
That's what I believe.
Yo, you got a lot of shit for Stowe.
You got that, you're going to do six hooks now.
I'm telling you.
Six.
Siette with minds.
You got six on D.C., Billy Owens.
He's my dudes, man.
Rest in peace, Pearl.
Sherman Douglas was good.
They better recognize Stone of God.
My uncle used to cut Pearl here.
Yeah, Pearl was that nigga.
Shout out to Husk.
You'd be surprised.
Who was from my projects?
Dean Meminger, Sr., who played for the Knicks,
is from my building, okay?
I don't even know what that is.
He was a legend of Nick's great.
His son is in New York One.
You've seen him in New York One a million times.
That's his son.
I grew up with Dean Memiger, the son.
The father played for the Knicks.
Don't do that to the God body of all God bodies.
This shit mathematical.
metric. This is the Petherium thagger.
That's it. That's it. This ain't that. That ain't this.
Is tracking kiss. Make some noise by a guest, though.
Go, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.
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