Joe and Jada - The Alchemist & Hit-Boy on 'Goldfish' collab & WILD Drake, Eminem & Jay-Z stories

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by two legends in the hip hop game, as super-producers Hit-Boy and The Alchemist sit down to discuss their upcoming collaboration album ‘Goldfish.’ Joe and Jada ask Hit-Boy about his most iconic records, including “Sicko Mode” by Travis Scott featuring Drake, “A Milli” by Lil Wayne, and “N****s In Paris” by Jay-Z and Ye (f.k.a. Kanye West). The Alchemist talks about his work with Havoc and Prodigy as Mobb Deep’s unofficial third member, Joe giving him his big break by hopping on the remix to Cypress Hill’s “Tequila Sunrise,” Eminem’s superhuman work ethic, and an UNHINGED story from being in the studio with Joe and Big Pun. Joe also tells a story about an unfortunate run-in he had with Bruno Mars and Anderson .Paak at an awards show.   7:00 - Hit-Boy's most legendary records ("Sicko Mode," "A Milli" & more) 13:30 - Jay-Z helping Hit-Boy get out of his deal 16:00 - Legend of Fat Joe's missing Lexus 19:30 - Alchemist shouts out Joe for his first big break 27:30 - Scott Storch & the fabled Biggie-Fat Joe project 34:30 - Alchemist's iconic collaborations with Mobb Deep 39:00 - Alchemist & Jadakiss' mixup with Ras Kass 42:15 - Mobb Deep's "Win or Lose" was for Jada & Styles P 45:00 - Toasting to new album 'Goldfish' 55:30 - People finally appreciating Alchemist 59:00 - Eminem, Paul Wall & "The White Mafia" 1:05:00 - Fat Joe's run-in with Bruno Mars 1:11:15 - "Business Merger" listening session [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm gonna cap. I'm capping for you today. Hold on. Let me, yo, I bet you don't even remember. What's up, y'all? What's up, y'all? It's the biggest in the motherfucking game. crack to dawn.

Know who it is your boy, Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And today is another one of those. Ladies and gentlemen. Super, you got to go a little more legendary on the internet. Excuse his cutting me off. Okay.

But ladies and gentlemen, viewers, people with airs, if you love music, if you love authentic hip-hop if you love the culture please make some noise for our guest today hip boy and my brother Alka man you got

you got motherfucking Beethoven and Mozart's of the fucking of the 25th century these motherfuckers is hieroglyphics man These ain't even icons. These are different type of solicitors up on the program over here.

These guys were giving you. If you don't know who they are, they've been making your head not for the last 20, 30 years? How long? I mean, shit for me. Yeah, I'm shutting. Alchemists, you need that rewind. We need a white boy on the cover.

I got to talk to you. Boxer rewind, get you that bad. He got a lot of money. Why fight the time where you could rewind? or you could rewind the time. Sometimes that shit like Lego. It looks like Lego. No, no, not this time.

Don't fuck with me. This is the real shit. You'll be switching up shades. No, my, yeah, yeah. My shit is consistent. Let me hear it. No, no. No, he's what he's saying.

He don't like the fake. My shit don't look fake. No, I don't. My shit is soothing to the skin. It's my product. I'm trying to make you money while you sleep. Yeah, here, boy, one thing you're going to do is you going to throw that shit on, man. It was 90 degrees yesterday.

I've seen you with a fur coat on in the middle of the... You don't give a fuck. Sometimes you're in the entertainment zone, right? Like... Like, I've seen all the back of the days. Diana Ross were fur coats in the summer. Like, who gets...

We got to adapt to any... You don't adapt to any weather. That's why I'm trying to say. We had to listen in that Stone Island so they gave with some, like, custom pieces and, you know, yeah, you had to throw that shit on. Shout out to Stone Island and wait for you. You know what I mean?

I've been... connected, but it ain't it ain't Plymouth Rock didn't nobody give us shit. I don't get shit, I'm free. Y'all got a crazy motherfucker's setup here, though. No, no, we're the biggest in the game, but thank you. That's who's going on.

Okay, he makes sense. My business partner, I always wanted to be humble about this shit. This shit, I'm not delusional. Like, I know we're the biggest in the game. We're moving the whole fucking culture. We're the guys. You know, we play a record.

Niggis changed their singles. Be careful. Y'all got new music yet? Yeah, we will. Because I guarantee you. going to change the single. Whatever you play here. Whatever you play here

becomes the fucking single. Tiana Taylor came here and said, I'll play the 13th song on the album, became her single. Too many people. I see. Ava came here and played that mom. Have it came here.

That was the damn. See what he's doing. Shout out to my brother. Your big dad came up here in the fucking country with a sombrero. Five million views. It changed the single. We are controlling the culture.

right now. We're not delusional. You're not lying, man. You know, but listen, we love you, man. You ain't bring Erica Badu to this one, though. I need to get that Erica Badu over here, huh? She's going to pull up, man. It don't even... Where it's time?

We ain't going to talk. We ain't going to get into y'all new project, y'all collaborating in a minute, but it only make sense for y'all to do something together because y'all been controlling the fucking I've been controlling shit for the past.

How does that just feel? I know what I mean I mean shit the last what about five years every end of the year lists it'd be like Alchemist hit boy

like that's drool producer list and shit so for us to tap in it just you know it made sense you know I got a hell of respect for both

and obviously legendary you know I'm getting to learn from you know what I mean I'm a student in this shit I'm always trying to learn trying to pick up new techniques new ways to think about shit

and I'll just he got that game so I'm gonna drop some titles and you just give us what was it like making it what was the whole journey

when I named these joints first thing first niggas in Paris straight forward let's not even play with it man shit you found for making straight to this

red flags I threw a flag I threw a flag I'm sorry no I mean bro shit that was I was a boy that shit still ringing off I just seen hold

do it at the last Beyonce show in Vegas shit was great. There's a hundred thousand motherfuckers in that shit. But I was just a kid excited making beats, having fun with the shit. You know what I mean? I flew out here to New York. I did some records with Hove and Yeh on that never seen a lot of day. I was hyping on them records and said, I'm going back to the city telling the homies, man, I got hoaxing on my shit, yay. And then none of them joints became anything. Like the beat for niggas and parents was just a beat I had emailed, yay, like once prior. Wasn't thinking

about the shit at all. He hit me like, bro, we just did this song out in Paris and when this shit drop your light about to change the nigga was right that's what you said yeah that's what he said let's talk about this one sick oh moe yeah I mean shit I did the first part of it

I'm a flagged out my nigga I mean I did the first part of it you know what I mean like the Drake part me and my boy Rojay produced that together and that actually is crazy because I did some shit on Travis album that came out prior to Astro World Birds in the Trap

I did a song called Way Back the day that shit came out, birds in the trap. Travis said me like, bro, I got a big session and now I got some, I got a session with Drake. I need you to send me some bombs.

And I sent the Sigomo beat. That nigga FaceTime me the next day going crazy playing the joint. But he was like, we're going to have to hold this shit to the next album. So I had to hold that beat for two years.

Yeah. But you knew that was, that was a force field. You knew that. Whenever that shit, no, that was, come on. You didn't talk about, you just asked about,

ladies in Paris to Sycamore. Them joints. That's unconscious shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? When we heard Sycamode, just as fans, that shit was unfucking real. And that was something that my daughter kept like, I think COVID, right? That shit just was like, that was playing in COVID. Yeah, it was right.

Legend of, you know, I had a kikuzzi in COVID. So I was scared to go to the pool. So I had like a little round kikuzi. What's a kikaze? What's a kikaze? It ain't quite a jacuzzi. it's a cocoo mix Maybe like a $300

plastic fucking filled up with water sitting in the sun in Miami like I wasn't fucking with nobody I had the cocoosie The cocoosie But that's sick of all Heavy rotation

That's tough Have me ask you about some more Hold on click Yeah click Ain't nobody best with my click What was there for that Yeah I'm on your big son too

You know what I mean We didn't have All type of platinum records and shit But yeah First time I heard that. I was actually, I was in the Hamptons working on Beyonce album and Yeh brought the final version through right before he put the

album out of, uh, cold, was it cold summer, some shit like that. And, uh, yeah, I did a few records on there, but click, that's just, you know, they all snapped on that shit. Speaking of Beyonce, let's go right in the feeling myself. What was how you paused? What was that love?

Man, again, bro, just having joints, like, you know, she invited me to the stool. She was at record playing Beyonce and I went and played some beats for her. She didn't that joint Next thing I know Nikki was on it She used that shit

For the album Like the video All like Yeah I got more Drop the world Man And the little Wayne

Feetion Eminem Oh yeah That was like That was the first time People really in the Hipop world Start seeing

You know Like my name And shit On a bigger platform You know I mean That was probably The first

Like platinum song I had produced Me and my boy Chasing Cash I'm chasing cash And shit Yeah just young That was like

2010 bro, that was the first one. That was before streaming and all that. So I'm on iTunes charts watching that shit just go up and it went to number one. I'm like, damn, that shit was crazy. It's fine. Super five.

Backseat freestyle, man. Kendrick Lamont. Man, legend. Yeah, shit, I had to, I went to Vegas fucking with TD and Kendrick before we put out good kid in Mads City. We was just locked in on joints. Again, I was another one where it was like, he had put his vocals on some other beats

and I was like hype off that shit. He's like, bro, I fuck with them joints But let me hear a few more beats type shit Him and Dave free pulled up to my crib That was one of the first beats I played He was like, this is it Took it, rode to it And he was on tour, he texted me like, bro, we got one

He was like this shit on the album for sure Yeah Good shit, man Goldie, ASAP Rocky Man, I fucked up Because I got invited to that video With him and Yams and Paris And I didn't make it

I don't know why I didn't go But that would have been a crazy look You know what I'm A-P Yams and shit, you know, and yeah, that was like, that was really, bro, like, first single on a major label type of shit, you know what I mean? So that was pivotal moment, like, that shit, you know, help both, you know,

going to that stratosphere. Right. Now, let's talk about the King's Disease Trillage. How you, what happened? Asco just called you and said, that really, my boy, double right here was with, uh, with, bro. Yeah, they was, uh, doing a little business.

I seen double post, Nause on his story. I just hit that nigga like, bro, you got to have this nigga pull up. Literally, he's like, man, he's going to slide tomorrow. I'm thinking, niggas bullshit, and he slid and was opening my ideas. I had some hook ideas with, like, Don Tyler, that ended up going on the album. I had some Anderson packed shit.

I just was planning my ideas, and he was laying verses and really fucking with me. So I'm like, he's, like, after the session, he's like, I'm going to keep pulling up. I'm thinking, like, come on, this is a nigh, this thing ain't going to keep pulling up. And then he pulled up for three years straight. We did six hours. Let me ask you the Niles process. Does he take long to spit a verse? Because he looked like one of them guys take long to spin a verse?

No, I mean, it's if he loves to be for sure. It's like if it's the right beat. I mean, bro, I don't know how you. We threw it. We put out 80 songs in three years ago. He was, he was being through. Lying to this fucking people already. Yeah, he was being through shit.

We got 80 songs in other three years. Hell, yeah. I like that car 85. That car 85 was my shit on that album. I really loved that first album. You know what I'm saying? That car 85 and the 88, they called me baby face. Yeah, yeah.

That was hard. It was hard. That was hard. Charlie Wilson singing on that more for you. That was all. Now, the valleys and peaks in the industry you just got out of a publishing deal. Yeah.

Help you get out of that? Shout out to A.O. He always coming through. Shout out to him and Desiree. I mean, over the deal with Snowport, that power play, man, and got me an end date because I didn't even have no end date to my shit. Oh, I got Rob too.

You were one of them. I think he heard on that. I got raw for like 14 years. My shit is different. He came to me like, yo, we're the only Latinos in the industry and this and that.

And they robbed me in Punt. 14 years, man. And... You didn't slap him? Couldn't. We never saw him. He got missing after that? Nah, he's just,

he's in a different... He's a kid. It's Jelly Bean, Bonite's, and he's hanging out with Madonna and him. He ain't coming around our shit. So if he would have came around, allegedly,

you know what's up, right? But he's no way to be, you know what I'm saying? He was no way to be found. So we in different circles, but eventually, like, you know what happened to me? I beat this. I did a soundtrack, right? And I asked him for $150,000. Yeah.

Right? I'm like, y'all, and I did the song. And I said, y'all need $150,000. At that time, I was really going for that bread. At that time. And they said, hold up. We ain't to prove it all the way. Yeah.

I said, why? He said, well, your publisher's asking for 300. I said, what? I didn't see this man at 14 years. That's when it was, I all know, we got, we got, we got the finer. This is, this is out. You got to find this way out of here because I didn't know this guy was raping me on that level. He wasn't giving them the permission for me to be on the soundtrack,

and he wanted double the money, and I never seen him. A man never gave me a job. When you, you got out of that? $1,000 check, man, just before laying back. So I got that next song I was laying back. Yeah, I think I, yeah, you got that's how that shit happened, beat? And so with you, how did they get you for the publisher? That was like raping you records, huh?

I mean, shit, I was one year out of high school. Why are you going to use my label, I did this thing? Man, yesterday I came up with some ill labels. Yeah, no, I heard shit, I signed the deal. One year out of high school at 19, I mean, 50, rags. Like everything at that time I didn't hear this man Same thing with me

I bought the Lexus for 49,950 they stole that shit the first day I went to four master flex birthday party niggas robbed the whole garage I'm all over Brooklyn MOP Everybody was with me looking for the Lexus Let me tell you something You talk about a hallway fucked up here

The 50 they gave me They stole the car the first fucking day MOP was looking for the Lexus With me, the whole Brooklyn, because He got, famous Philly was looking for the next. Yeah, one of the guys, one of the guys

got caught. So they robbed the whole garage. It was a palladium for Massiflex berkeley. You robbed all the cars? The whole garage. He took the Mexican man, and robbed him. Where was it? Which? Palladium. So around the

corner, they robbed the whole garage, and he flocked off. One of them got caught. He happened to be from Brooklyn. So we studied, we, We was all over Brooklyn, all over Brooklyn looking for this fucking Lexus in every garage, every MOP was with us,

Fray, Billy, everybody run it through. What's the little guy down with them, too? What's my little man? Damn, man. Fox, all of them. But anyway, we're a thousand deep drive. The whole Brooklyn new Fat Joe's looking for this Lexus. We all over.

Come on, man. Let me tell you something. It's crazy. Let me tell you the story. Three months later, I'm like one day to getting my $50,000 check back, they find a fucking Lexus. I wanted my $50,000 back, B.

I might have had a G in the bank account B. I was like, yo, I'm going to get $50 back. Yo, chill, I made a mistake with the Lexus. One day, your Lexus has been found. I'm like, fuck. I didn't want that shit found. I wasn't the $50,000. They found no.

This guy was driving it like it was his car. When they found it, he had car seat in the back. Kids books. This guy was driving his kids to school. He owned the Lexus for three months. You can't tell no one. To this day, he probably in Brooklyn like, yo, remember you had the LS4?

Yeah, you know, that's how that shit go. You know what I'm saying? We got it back, but I know about that shit, man. How's it working with your pops? I did a lot of time. I just came from the prisons talking to the dudes up north. Shout out to Marcy and Midstate. He got out.

He was working with him. Yeah, he back down right now, man, free him, you know what I mean? It was a 30-year, you know what I mean? Saga dealing with the shit my whole life. He did, man. You know, that shit is a fucking roller coaster, but he really is who you say he is, you know what I mean? Like, he really bought that shit, so it's kind of hard to tame that. But, you know, I'll be doing the best I can, just trying to keep that nigga busy, keep him working.

He was on stage with Kendra got the pop out. And yeah, your songs with Snoop, whole album with games and shit is like. What's the problem if he keeps going back? Like, what is it? Is it like substance abuse? Is it like, he's just a real nigga, man.

He's just a real nigga at home. Yeah, nah, for sure. You know what, damn, same, he's on God. I couldn't imagine,

bro. You know, being around niggas all day, bros? Hell not. Fuck that. But, you know, he just,

he just a wild dude, man. He don't really follow rules, man. Yeah, Alchamette, you ready for the Alchemists or you got like, I mean, you know,

yeah, Alchemist, let me tell you stuff. We prepared for him. You, we know you like the back of the head, bro. We like, my favorite beat I ever rap to in my whole career of 30-some years is definition of a dime. Wow. It's my favorite.

I say it all the time. I don't know if you see it on interviews or whatever the case. That's crazy. It's because it's such a real song, real the beat. It's just, when I hear that, that, you know, if you ever want to know the real fat, fat, you listen to that song. That's Fat Joe telling you that's the real Fat Joe. Like, it ain't like,

I made a song for this and that. That's like me. Definition. Describe the autobiography of my life. Definition of a darn. I'm like, yo, my God, man. I remember that. You don't even know how much. I bet there's some shit you forgot.

You realize you were the first big artist to ever rap on a Bidemar? Oh, man. I'm a cap for you today. I'm capping for you today. Hold on. Yo, I bet you don't even remember. You remember the Cypress Hill remix?

Tequila Sunrise. I was just underneath Mugs at the time. I was still living in L.A. You weren't even flying yet. You had the tour bus. I don't forget none of this shit because this was a big, you know, Mugs was giving me a shot. Like, yo, you're going to do the remix and we're going to get Fad Joe on it.

And that was a big break for me. Like, yo, it was Tequila Sunrise Remix, man. Not only you say that I get gone. goosebumps right now because Cypress Hills is only, you know, us being Latino, me and pun, they were pretty much the only guys we looked up to. You know what I'm saying? They set the bar to where it was like, yo, we want to be like Cypress Hills. You know what I'm saying?

Like they was like on another level of, you know what I mean? They were the only guys we could look up to. And what's crazy is we still look up to them. You know what I'm saying? So those guys are, but damn, I ain't know that. You know, I've been around a long time. You know, you guys are around a long time. You know, you guys are producers.

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on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Scott Storch, you know, I changed his life. What I'm saying? They was rape. Talking about it. That was the reverse rapism.

They had that boy doing all them fucking hits and they wouldn't give him credit. And so Rob Reef Tulo, by the way, the only A&R that I ever got out of ears from, one of the greatest, changed my life, made me millionaire. This guy, Rob Reef Toulow, because the other day I shitted on A&Rs. What I don't like... He's a different breed. He's from that era. Rob was the best maybe ever. And even back in those days,

he made sure I got my bread, even if it was a little bit. Because they didn't have to do that shit. He was one of those guys. Like, I don't know. Hats off to, you know, to Reeve, man. Straight up. Let me explain.

I don't even want to go there because I don't want to turn this interview into a cap interview, right? Oh, thank you. What I can say... Go. Let me tell you something. Rob Reef Tull changed my life.

You know what I'm saying? He heard, you know what I'm saying? I was working with Biggie on a project. And he came and divide and conquer. He said, yo, you're doing this work with Biggie? I said, yeah, I only had two albums before that. I had no money, no nothing, Flojo. None of that shit made money, sold records, this and this and that.

He was like, y'all want to give you your own label. He took me to Atlantic. And because I was going to put out a project with Biggie, It's the only reason I never sold I didn't deserve my own record Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute You had records with Biggie? Yes, where you are?

Under a rock, I'm trying to tell you, No, you got that. They never came out. That's the inception, that's the exception of Cap, Joe. Because I told people, I was doing the Man, I don't know. Where are these records? Listen, I don't have it.

No, no, no, no. I'll commit, no, I'm too real. You know I ain't going to lie. Being big, he was cutting records He wanted to be the black don't I'm the Spanish Dawn Some people call it cap Whatever

This is crazy But Rob Tullo As the A&R of Atlantic He heard that I was doing this project That stepped to me It was like, yo you're doing it And I'm like yeah And he was like, yo yo

I want to give you your own record label I didn't even deserve the record label At the time All the million dollars I might have had two grand in my fucking bank account But you had a pun already right? No, not yet This was TESA

This is Teres Squad Records right? Yeah, but this is the beginning. This is before even one. Okay, okay. Or nothing like that. It was just me. I only had two albums. A hustling is the key to success of Flojo.

So Rob came and gave me millions, my own record label. And that's why they gave me my record label, because it was like a biggie fucking with this guy. Fat Joe's on our shot you with Ella and all them. That was out already. Let's grab them right. Yeah, that was out. So he was like, no, the momentum.

The projection was there. it just wasn't there. You know how we all say Big El wouldn't have died he would have been the biggest. So I was like projected to win but I wasn't there yet. And Rob took the chance with me

and did that same thing with Scott Storch when he introduced me to Scott Storch and he was just so talented and I was just like, yo and I'm the first to go, yo Scott Storch on a hit record. I just used that tag on a song, he just played some keys on the song.

I just drive with A. Z. Chike and Baby Tron and I only Spang Nitty. And you heard the, yo, Scott Storch, what's up? I put that shit on. After that, he had cheese lines outside his thing. But let me tell you, he was crazy about you producers, man. Yo, Jada, it's the truth. Scott's too good.

After I shouted out, Scott Storch, I'm going to the studio. It's Method band, Redman, this one. That was cheese lines of rappers. Whoever's your number one rapper is out, Jada, was you on the line? Yes, he was. He was. He was. Scott was over.

Y'all, what I'm nephew? Why see you over here? Y'all, let me tell you something. Give Fad Joe credit, but I set a lot of trends in this game. I've seen Scott Storke. You know, we have hit boy in our good miss here. Scott Storch's old nothing. I was going to get him out.

We can't have Scott Storch now. You don't know. No, he can't, but let me tell you something. It's a lot of Scott Storch stories. Listen, so I go to Scott Storch? Yo, come on. See, yo, that man is Leonardo the Capio of the music game. When he tells his story, he got stories.

Oh, my God. He lives a life. He lived a life. Did you guys, no, a super life? Did you guys ever, like, make a pack so you come see Jada and it's like, all right, I hear this for Jada, but you keep the other pack for Jay-Z? I used to hate these producers. They come in the studio to bring us beach And they be playing some shit

They'd be like Oh, this is for Hove Hey, still it's all I'm over there Trying to make a fucking hit My mind I got a fucking wrench around my brain Trying to crack open

Or something Went to a lot of that on Bad Boy With Big They used to play the beats And say now that's for big Why the fuck did you play it for me? Yo ma'am I don't just respect If you were wondering

Wild All them is they were coming the shit with Mattiband. They'd be like, oh, I can't really give you that. That's the red man. And yeah, we're like, yo, my man. Like, what the fuck? What you giving me? I'm chopped liver.

We used to come to the studio. You remember those days, like, in battery, when y'all would have, like, album mode, and we used to come and line up. It would be Buckwaw, Rockwiler, whoever come with the dads and have to play beats. But y'all used to have the fucking shenanigans. Like, I remember one time it was you and punited the studio,

and I came in the studio to play beats. and it was it was a hammer on the table, allegedly. So I was saying, all right? So I walked in, and Plum was sitting all the way on the back on the couch against the wall, right? That's what he used to say. And he put her, he went and grabbed the apple. He put an apple on his head.

He put an apple on his head. He put an apple on his head. Holy shit. Put an apple on his head. Hold on. Take the fucking. He put, I ain't spoke to Joe in a minute. He put an apple on his head.

He said, yo, Joe, Joe. Joe said, right now, right here. He said, Joe. Go, go, go ahead, go ahead. Joe said, no, we can't do that right. He said, go, go, go. Joe took the hammer. Boom!

And pun went like this. They made the fucking, it was an air gun. He made the apple move. I tell that story recently if I did that with Tony Sunshine. You know, they never put us in battery studios again. Tom Sunshine put the Apple on some young, this little white engineer. Yeah. And they punt did the same shit.

Shot it. They never let me ramp that. studio again in my life it was my favorite fucking studio those sessions were crazy those fucking sessions were crazy man he gets the one taking back he gets one taking back from the captain

story checks out he gets his time out and he gets another challenge those were crazy days man but yeah I mean you know but they were the fun days for sure see I thought you was a member of mob deep I mean shitty you can say that well the way I looked at it

yeah right because you got havoc you know, niggas calling that the number one album of all time produced. Straight up. I see lists all the time where infamous. Yes. Infamous is, and so you come afterwards and team up with

prodigy. Murder music. So you put in work with him in murder music. Murder music is when I got down. How do you come in when he already has a Dr. Drake? So I thought you was the third member of Marble Deep. I swear to God. I mean, yo, listen, I tell half all the time. I thank him. And that's a real

testament to confidence he's havoc he made a whole sound so when i got to to new york i was around soaking up all that shit figuring out how to make the drums a certain way like ab is a mastermind genius we notice you know what i'm saying but you know the connection was through cypress so it's funny how it worked i'm you know mugs was working with them all but i came to new york he linked me with them and they just saw me in new york like just out here dolo still reping solo assassins but they were like come fuck with us you know and then I just

I was out here kind of by myself so them put me into the mix you know how that made me feel like think of that murder music is they already did hell on earth

infamous that's what I'm trying I was a fan when I met them you know what I'm saying so the fact they let and you know how it is it was gradual too

because they're not the type to just be like come on and you're with us it took a while until I was like yeah I went to Rickon's wedding and I went

you know how you go to a wedding and they're giving them shuttle bus. It was sitting next to Rizzen his wife. Wizard turns around. It's like, you know, I used to let you, you know, work with Ray. Like, you know, some crews, they wouldn't even let you work with each other. They'd be like, yo, he was like, yo, you know, I'm glad we had the wedding because, you know. I feel about that.

I mean, that's, you know, Rizzer, Liza was the boss. That's like you called my outfit, a little outfit. he's kind of like little out of way I used to let you wear Pinky in the brain that shit looking fly right there but you know your brother compliments your outfits man

you can say something about my outfit man that's outfit his motherfucker boy he won't give a compliment for nothing damn it like you're compliment all the time yo listen but

when we was at with but Cruz like even me right and I please I don't want to start no type of beast I worship you guys. I love you guys to death.

Well, I'm a member of digging in the crates from the beginning. And I remember when they asked me to do a shotcha. L.Ls are shot you were keeping, of course. Some of the members was like,

y'all, we don't rock when... No, they was the underground. They was underground. They didn't believe... They were some of them. It was forbidden for you to do a shingle that was about the blow. They didn't want you...

Yeah, with my idol. L.O. Kooja, I was like, yo, this is my idol. this guy's four-time planning and it was like they were James they was like strictly underground

there's seven members in digging into crows let's get to it who was it no I can't but what I'm saying to you what I'm saying is now

I think I know who it was two to three members I think I know who it was like yo we only no it was a show it wasn't show it wasn't show it was like it's two or three members

that was like yo we rock with us and I was just like I said that was the one time I said Man, I don't. It wasn't, it wasn't Andre the Giant. Leave it alone.

No, it was. We can narrow it down. But that record was hard. You know, I was born yesterday? No, it was a stepping stone. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like a pop that French Montana. Like, it was a time.

Like, I shot to put me on another level. Was that a Chris Lydie? Here's he. It was Chris Lyddy and Chris Lyddy and, um, trackmaster. Yeah, beat. Yeah, but Chris. They fucked with me. They fucked with me hard.

So they came there, heard my second album, I was working that battery. It was like, yo, you want to jump on this L.L. But I know about, you know, you working with Prodigy, you know, I know they must have some internal talks. Like, yo. Ah, man, we ain't talking about that. He made it in.

He made the shit. It was always love. I have always showed me love. But we kind of, you know, still sharp and still. No, we got a shout out, Al. We got a shout out my man Keg, aka rock star, aka time. or Ralee because he put us together. That's right.

And, yo, you know what's crazy. He's doing this thing now. Shout to Kegg. My God, you might have gave him their best record ever. And you know what's crazy? Do you remember? No, no, that's a fact. No, it's definitely timeless.

He has a fan. I don't know what he's like. He gave me a lot of one. He gave me still feeling, feel me? This is another connection. That's crazy. Look at this. You kidding me?

Remember the beat for bringing on? Remember the beat for bringing on? Huh? Remember the bring it on beat, right? Bring it on. So there was a stretch. I'm still, it was a stretch also, L.O.A.

We balled in and threw that beat in the COVID clots, you talking about? And then, and then Stretch came and told me, y'all was asking who did the beat? Because I didn't know y'all yet. So shout to Stretch, also. We went up on Stretch, and Cadrinked us. We balled out.

Now, what's the real story? This is the last time we ever going to talk about this. Because shout out to my brother, that's cat. Hold on. I ain't going to say, Shout out to his son's, that's after this, Bob, my man, Joe.

Rastcast, the legend, no, let me say. Adra Moses, chill out, I'm tall, got a suit's a moment for me. Like, can I have my moment? I don't want to take my moment. No, no, I don't want to take my moment.

It's a coffee you can try. No what I'm saying? So, whatever happened, because all I know, you came in, played me some beats, I'll pick that and that, and then I got a,

you know what I mean? Because it's really you, but I took the, I took the heat for it, here. But it was really out. He didn't tell me what was going on with it. We took the heat. This is the last time we ever going to talk about this because he's all love.

So let's... It was just a mix-up, man. It was a misunderstanding. I had love for both of y'all. I still do, you know, shout to Ratt. I just saw Rats last week. His, you know... Living Legend Rastas.

His kids are killing it. Ghost Contras. Shout to Rosh Kahn. It was a mix-up. It was early in my career. You know what I'm saying? And it was like... It was a lot of little movies.

moving parts and shit that happened, but in the end, I, you know, I wish it didn't go that way, you know what I'm saying? But then in the end, the record we made definitely became something that lasted forever and shout to Rass, too. You know what I mean? It was just a mix-up back in that time, but, you know, I wish the best

for everybody, but everybody's doing great now. Well, you know what that happened to me? Yo. Oh, tell me, we all the world. Yo, I thought the flag ahead of top. What beat did he have first? We are the world. Who did he have first?

Damn. The Star Spangled Banner. In my face by Salam-Remmy right after Flood. And I'm not telling you, I wouldn't have did a better job than Fuji Lai. But I was in his house. In my hand, he made Fuji lie in my face for Fat Joe. We used to be number one. He said Lauren Hill came like two hours late and was like, oh, no, not Fat Joe.

This is my shit. And they snatched up that Fuji lie. It was made for me. in the Fujila is the same type of drums as flow, Joe, same pace, saying everything. She came and threw that shit in the COBRA clutch. It was like, yo, I need this. Let me get that batch. Okay.

I just heard recently you said win or lose was originally for me and P? I never told you why. How the fuck? No, see, this is what happened. You know, when we were doing mob albums, you know, can we hear that? Yo, could you play Winner lose right now for one second, man? He's just thinking about, imagine. Imagine that, too.

Imagine this. We were finishing the mob album and, like, when we were doing the album, we would go to the studio and work, but sometimes they would come to my crib and you record joints. So that was a joint I had in my crib and the computer. So the album was done and I was like, I went secretly, I hadn't told you, but I was like hoping they would forget because I wanted to put S-P and Kiss on it. And then P came to my crib like a week before they were finishing the album was like,

yo, remember that one joint we had in the computer? And I was like, oh, yeah. Damn. But, you know, you know what I'm saying? I always thought, what would that have been like, man? Because all they wanted to say, imagine, you know what I'm saying? You know, he and Joe or Jeter, we don't let nobody finish their answers. I'm glad he said.

I'm glad that was one of the best things you ever said. Y'all, thank you, brother. They need to clap with you or not, man. Yeah. I need to do a clip of like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. You know what happens is I just be like, The ideas come up While I'm hearing that

I'm like, oh, I've got a better I've got to work on that Put it up Cranky cracker, man Oh, you would have went crazy Right? Y'all can't suck it down Imagine that

You would have crazy I had the right idea Whoa Oh I feel it, baby Yeah Yes Another day, another dollar, it's about getting money.

Ooh! Get me a holl in my nose running. I've been out in the cold. Husts for so long. My hands numb. But I feel that paper hit my palm. It's like all shit. It's on.

Time to go shopping for cars, not fashion. I win to be the ball. My clothes. Be the same shit that we had on. Fuck looking cute. Say that for the Bronx. It's the A.J.B.O. Seatump and reload.

Knock, knock. I'm laughing through the people. Let's pay lawyers so we be dozed. Get locked. Yeah, we're the only niggas you know That fuck they P.O's They push our files at the top You still on parole

We got money to roll No time for paying to take you He was different That's the peace If I was sure I wouldn't want to hear that No That's a Well, anyway, that's a legendary song

But that definitely Got the locks written Oh my phrase Oh my, that's the time for they toast When we were talking about the new style Yeah, we're going to toast to the new album Then we're going to talk about it Well, we could toast the life

And the life And the life They got the new album Goldfish You know what I mean With these two Album in the film Album in the film We're going to toast right quick

Who came up with the title And why is it called Goldfish I mean shit I mean Life be like that We'd be stuck in the ball Just going in circles And shit sometimes

You know what I mean It's like you know Mentally Whatever it is but it's a couple meetings when you see it, you know what you really understand what's going on. Now, y'all both spitters

turn producers or producers turn spitters? I was making my own songs before I made beats and I, man, to be honest, the beat shit was just on some, like, fun shit for me, you know, just still is. It's like, I replaced playing video games with making beats

because the FL studio looked like Tetris. They was clowning that shit when they drove. And they was like, real producers don't use you know, fruity loops now. It's like all the Drake hits, a lot of Kendrick hits, a lot of niggins shit, being made on that feeling. You know what I mean?

You know what me? I don't care where the fuck the beat came from long as it's knocking. Neither did it with two fruit loop boxes. Who gives this shit? The shit is knocking. I haven't really get about it. They got the room of the habit came up

with the shit from the project, the light, some stove. From the stove in the project. That really came from that? Well, that's what the room is. I don't know if it's confirmed. That's hard,

Do all because everybody's stove did that. It's a good story. I think it was just the engineer playing the high hats in the beginning of the day, maybe. It fits. It's a good concept. I like it. My point is, little rap.

Gold bottles, gold fish. My God. The goldfish, man. More life, man. More wealth. Don't respect. Don't respect. More money.

No, how many times you ever ship the ace on the ace of space? Yeah. Right, right, right. Right. Right. It's this classy. This is her a classy right here. Back on the dream.

We was just in Starless last night, hours ago. Man, shit. I'm still recovering. Oh, shit. We don't bring that into these comments. Every time somebody say some shit like that, you start to hide behind the pillow and shit. Yo, how was Starlitz?

It was amazing, man. Great time. I love it. It was your family and that motherfucker, huh? That's the devil's day. It's a good spot, man. It's a good spot. sitting in bobby booby trap one night in fucking miami i'm my man money and we're throwing so much

money so much this and i turned around i seen the greatest caribbean asian asian white the spanishess i don't know the devil i got to seat the kingdom the devil's in here this is the devil's lair we got to get out of it sometimes you got to run out of a place a place like that or philly i'm at the yankee get by the way they call me the bad news what we're They call me the jinx. I'm the mush. We won last night, beat. That boy, Judge, hit that shit out the park.

Mayer had the, he told the whole, yo, he fucked himself so royally. He told the whole section, if Judge hits a home run, I'm buying drinks. That nigga hit the home run. Mayer had to buy every, don't go messing with cotton odd joke. These are different kind of fans out there.

He'll like triple of Tito. doubles, I say, yeah, you got. Yo, they was ordering doubles and tripple. You know, listen, some women came by, and she said, I noticed you've been drinking Diet Pepsi, and she brought me a Diet Pepsi. The whole section looked at me. I said, seek the king, bro.

Seek the king, no little mistake. What's going on with that? Who's on now? Y'all two features we got. What's going to give us a little sneak? You know, me, Conway, Conway, got a solo song on there. Oh, shit, we got Bodie James. Boldie, shout out on the Jay Worry.

You got my pop's big hit on their head. Who else on that motherfucker? Havoc. But we didn't want to do a compilation album. I think people probably expect it because we do the beats. But once we link, it's just where it went. Because it started from a record that we did together, like, what was it, two years ago? He was working on a project, hit me up.

And shit was like, yo, I think he saw, I just did a verse on a Larry June. I don't really rap a lot. You know what I'm saying? But when I was working, shout to my brother Larry Jr., He was like, yo, would you get on this joint right here with me? I was like, we want me to rap on it? He said, yeah, yeah, it had to be dope. And it was like a 12 bar.

So it was easy, you know, sometimes when I'm making beats, I just write just to test drive the beat, you know what I'm saying? You know, I come from one of the greatest producer rappers ever done. Diamond Dean, shout to Diamond Dean. And so he got a classic album and all that. And so actually, he brought me in the game. Like, I was born and raised by a producer that rap. So I always had love for producers that rap

Is hip hop that bad now that the producers gotta say, yo, we're gonna rap? It's not even about that. It ain't even about that, you know what I mean? It's just like, this is a natural organic leakup, my nigga. Like, we just make good songs together, you know, and this shit just, you know, just became something. You know what I mean?

It turned into, you know, this is our first real album. We dropped the EP with like three songs, like a year and a half, two years ago, something like that. But it's like a full-length joint, you know? And showing the camaraderie, you know what I'm saying? Producers, I don't think it's as competitive as the rapper thing. Like, I felt like the producers, like, we all fuck with each other, you know what I mean? So, like, I used to hit him up every year, like he was saying, the end of the year, like, damn, you kick him my ass.

Like, I got to go crazier. You know what I'm saying? So it was just a natural connect. And then after the one record that we did, you know, he saw me rapping and we did a record. And it went up. And it's like, got like, millions of views on YouTube, but we were like, damn. I think people like seeing the camaraderie, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think that's what's the biggest attribute to the locks,

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pause what we call like glow up. So this guy he'd been already you know he was making beats in Paris with them giving him

macaroon you know he's hanging out with fucking Beyonce and fucking Hamptons they're bringing them chill shrimp and shit this guy

his profile been really high right Kanye right he's from that whole factory right but

you, you always been an underground and lately I've been seeing working a lot the collaborations that Erica Badu that's already

her baby's father is this top five dead or alive right so it's like yo you collaborate with her so I'm seeing this

like everybody is real on a mainstream level appreciation of alchemist do you know you in that moment right now

or do you you know does it feel different? With all of these collabs, do you have any joints left for me? Don't make me pull up my text messages. We have we got here. You hit me for the

you did a lot of, you guys. Yeah, hold on the minute. Hold on a minute. You definitely, I deserve that flat. Nah, you know, me, Jayda, come on, we got work to do. You know that, unfinished business, but I mean. It, too, though, man. It's the overdue.

One joint we need. never got to do it, but I need... Well, we... Yeah. I mean, I think... I think... I know what it was? I was...

I was... I was... You know what it was? It feels like, you know, when you're playing a video game, and you're kind of playing it good and you turn the speed up or put it on the more advanced level, we'd be like, I don't know if I could play... And then you start figuring it out. Like, damn, I could go, I'm speeding now.

I'm like, this was easier than I thought. It's starting to feel like that a little bit, like, because we got to rinse and repeat for him a little bit. the last five, ten years of, you know, just doing records with different artists like Bodie James or Rock Marcy or, you know, Action Bronson, I could name, you know what I'm saying, I could go on. The current one is Freddie Gibbs, you know, Alfredo, and it's like, it just feels like, I, we're in motion, shit is going. I'm not second guessing. I'm pulling the trigger. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking about my brother P. You know, this time was limited, you know,

especially going through the stuff we got. I'm like, if we got it now, we got to, we got to go. still got it in me. I don't feel like I still feel like I could get better. I feel like we got on finished business. I feel like I hit you out every now and then like what's up crack? Like we could still make some magic. Like I still, I don't care about none of that. It's not a young man sport. They got to stop talking about that. Tell him out. The shit is bullshit. I don't know where that narrative came from. I don't know where it's lonely at the top came from. Because why can't we all be at the top together? Like all of that stuff I don't, it doesn't register with me. So, you know, it's just timing, man. And I feel blessed.

That's that you saying that. Y'all, y'all was like, you know how I feel about both of the offer. So to get that from you guys, that means I'm doing the right thing. And, you know what I'm saying? Just tied in when my brother hit, you know, he goes as crazy as I do. And I felt like that's where we connected. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I appreciate it.

You know what I mean? Definitely. I mean, I feel like you're a part of the white mafia, too. Allegedly. Yo, yo, yo. That's funny. Could be. It could be as a fact.

I don't know for you. Fire, a, fight, five, five, not because. It's like,

it's like, you guys are very talented, but you all, you're all well, but I feel like Eminem, he got this crew. Rosenberg. It's got Rosenberg.

He'll snatch up Reef. It'll snatch up Archimus. He'll go get action Bronson. He'll go, he got like this. Y'all got a white mafia. Bing, bong.

They got a, nah, they got a, you see, y'all got a Mike Mafia, and I'm happy for it. You know, y'all got a mob like that. I see NEMS over there on that side. Dang, Mom. Okay. Showns over there on that side, too. I feel like, who reaches out?

Is it Eminem or Paul? Who says, yo, we got to stick in. They're ready to be down with us. You don't know, huh? That sounds fly, though, man. But I'm on to something. No, no. Right.

Paul go gets him. I'm not delusional. I know what's going on the shot at it. Eminem, we don't talk about them enough on this platform. He's my brother. He's my friend. You know, I got, I can't tell you, like, I get it all the time. But I remember I did the album.

What album was it where I said I retired? And I remember I was in my mother's house. My phone rang from my unknown number, and I picked it up, and it was Marshall. And he talked to me for two hours. I was like, yo, Joe, I've been listening. You still got it.

You don't need to be. I was like, I wanted to knock on the neighbor's houses and all. I'd be like, yo, this shit fucking Eminem. Talking to me for an hour and two telling me, yo, talking me off the retirement list. Like, yo, you got to, you know, you got to stay working. You got it. And that's one of the biggest honors I ever had.

And to have that relationship with him is amazing. Because, you know, people, they forget. Like, you know how you just said, yo, let's go back to Rob Rees Tullo. Let's go back to the... A lot of people forget all these different layers of what's going... You know, we'd just be stuck on 2025. Right.

And sometimes you don't think about what... Eminem came out. A man, big pun was online. And fucking L.A., that was just before the Grammys in the sunset. The fucking... We waited online for that album. And you ain't waiting on that line for that album if he wasn't the guy.

You know what I'm saying? He was phenomenal. He was incredible. And sometimes you try to explain it to kids that wasn't there at that time. You changed shit. And I'm going to tell you, you think we work hard? I've never seen nobody work like him to this day. The level that, like right now, he's in the studio right now.

I can put bed it. Every day, I'm telling you, on tour, headphones in the hotel room writing. Still. So, you know, when I think I'm doing like that too. All the way in it. All like inside the middle of a tornado. Like, they're not coming. coming out of it.

You know what I mean? I was crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. I remember when I got him on the Lean Back remix, he said the same verse 30 times. It was the same verse, but he would say the word a little different

or say it this way and this, this. And we like, fuck, we got the M&M verse. We let this bitch go. And he's just like, yo, yo, yo, but hold up. Sending you another verse. It's the same verse. But like with a different tone or cadence or this, And it's like 30 times.

And I'm like, is this the one? Like, he's a perfectionist, man. The shot I am. What's up with the film that's attached to the project? Man, it was a little bit of one. It was a good idea that hit came up with when we were working because we were going to do a bunch of videos, you know, of course. He was like, we should shoot a movie.

You know, I'm like, about what? You know, and he was like, first it was like about us. And we were like, no, fuck that. Let's just get with somebody. get a script and put some bread up and shoot a fucking movie to go with this out Play characters outside of ourselves Not just in a conventional music movie

Where it's like a little scene And a music video pop up And ain't no shit like that It's like a real beginning, middle end type of shit It's a real story to it So yeah That's fine We got Danny Trejo in there

We got Simon Rex in Yeah a bunch of good actors Coakin Conway's in there High level high level shit Yeah Shot on film 60 millimeter film

It's like Some high level art You know what's crazy is. You know, when we talk of movies, it made me remember that Taylor Swift just put out a movie with her album. You know, she sold three million records in one day. I heard that.

Cardi B had a record for like three days. This shit incredible. Cardi B playing a record. In a day. So how many streams is that? We got to find out, man. It's like two zillion. I think it was like merch and shit.

Mike, Israel's strength. You know, Birdman just said he got, He did a trillion streams with all his artists. I believe it. B. B. B. just said it. Yeah. Streams.

Yeah, it's crazy. Yo, but Taylor Swift, Cardi B. broke the Guinness World of World Record. Her shit lasted three days, three work days. Here came Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift came with the $3 million in one day. Like this shit. And a movie.

The shit sold like $30, $60 million. Oh, streams. No, no. She sold it. Brother, man, she sold $1 million. copies in one day. This is a fact on World Goodness, look it up. Taylor Swift

came out less than a week later and so $2.7 million in one day. With the movie. You listen to the album? I love Travis Kelsey's my brother. I love everything about,

do you know who got me fool? Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift got me food. Because we all know you be waiting to meet people. How many times you waited to meet somebody forever and you're like, you know, man, this guy ain't shit.

Or they got an attitude. They're cocky or they arrogant. You're saying that about Taylor Swift? No, I just think, I really believe she's a nice person. No, you're not listening to what I'm saying. I'm honestly, I met everybody. I've hung out with, I've hung out with the biggest superstars in the world, in the history of mankind.

Where you going with Swift? No, I'm talking about the best. Where are you going with the Swift piece right now? And we talk to some crazy shit And the fan come over and they go And come back, yeah, fuck these motherfuckers, this, this. I'm like, damn. Like, seriously, like, I've been with the biggest

full of shitters in the world. I'm trying to tell you, Taylor Swift got me fooled. I'm believing she's a nice person. Great. Now, I'm telling you the truth. My whole, since she came around, I said, man, it's a nice girl. She's a fucking best posy.

Taylor Swift, she's a nice lady, man. This girl. You know, and everybody's full of shit. And when you get to know people, and you be like, holy shit. You know what this shit? I'll tell you a story. Fuck it.

I say a name, right? I waited maybe 10 years, maybe 15 to meet Bruno Mars. Okay? What do you don't want me to do? This is the true story, guys. You want to be to tell the story or not? You waited.

What do you mean you waited? Because, no, I got to let it go. It's, you know, he's Puerto Rican. At least that's what they say. So, like, like, we know, we know. In Africa. We know, no, that's my basketball. But, hey, listen, we know bad boy and he's Puerto Rican.

Like, he got the flag. J-Lo does the Super Bowl with the flag. I've been hearing that Bruno Mars is Puerto Rican but I never got to meet them so the whole time I'm excited you know I want to bring them in the Puerto Rican mafia right?

You know how y'all got the white mafia, right? So I'm at the awards and I'm sitting next to him. James, I'm telling you a story, James. Don't look at the fucking computer. I'm telling you the truth. I'm sitting next to him at the awards. I'm going to keep it all away 100.

I'm sitting right next to somebody in the woods and I'm saying, oh shit, Bruno Mar. I'm going to talk to him. Somebody said, yo, he's a fuck nigga. Stan. The guy next to me said, you might not want to do it. He's a fuck nigga. I said, what?

Yo, Bruno, what's up, man? Yo, what's up, Joe? He's with Anderson Pack. I'm like, yo, you Puerto Rican? He got up. Fuck, you mean? I'm a real fucking Puerto Rican for Bruce Rick, Brooklyn. Don't ever ask me shit in your life.

And went and sat on that. the other side of the, man, broke my heart. Do you trip, though? That's crazy. What? Did you know he was real wreaking? Well, I, I wasn't a challenging. This wasn't a flag if he's a real, like, tell me something.

Who's your father? Pedro, I don't know. The nicest way being awards. I'm wearing Hermes. I'm not bothering nobody. I'm in there. You have a demeanor, Joe. You have a demeanor.

No, Bruno Mars. I've been waiting 15 years. You do the action, miss you. was bawdy? He could have just said, yeah, I'm bawdy. What's up, bawdy? Okay.

I don't know. A lot of you artists is weird now. Like, I ask the motherfuckold question that starts a gang war. Like, the answer to the question is we want peace. Yo, you in the gang this?

We want peace. I need you. Right? Yo, you in a gang? Yeah, I'm in a gang, yeah, I'm in a gang. Fuck you let everybody kill each other. This, no.

The answer is, yeah, Puerto Rican, what's up, bro? I love big pun, something. I thought that's a, A man screamed on me and left. Went to the other movement. It was mad.

Like, you know, other side of the fucking awards looking like. And I didn't, I was like, yo, you beat up his pops? You know,

we've been around for a minute. Like, no, I swear to God. I said, yo, we need to see if we beat up his bobs or something.

This shit seemed personal. What did Anderson Pact? Beat up Grandpa. Anderson Pett. I love me, man. Yo, he said, He got some teeth and shit.

You know, he got some teeth. Oh, you crazy. You got the head, dude. It was like your fat, yo. What's up, brother? Oh, shit, man. Digging in the craze, baby. You know, I understand the shit, right?

That's my guy, man. You responded like I thought Bruno was going to respond to me. I was like, yo. Bruno, if you don't remember it, I forgive you. But you did that, brother. He did that. Defending him, I ain't forgiving me. You got to apologize to you.

Okay, say the lady. that sung that It was over like a fad from Yonkers Fonda Ray If you go off to Fonda Ray And you say hey Fonda you're from Yonkers And she gets to fuck up Jadicus

Don't ever talk to me like this And you're fucking And you're like That never happened She's seen me going to the store When I was in Well it happened to me with Bruno Mars That's what I'm trying to tell you

Sometimes you can't wait I waited 15 years to meet Bruno Mars Like I really But, you know, a lot of these guys So long, he should have went to his grin. A lot of these guys can break your heart, man. You know, I'm telling you the truth. You meet them and you're just like, you know,

I go above and beyond a smile at everybody when they come up to me. Hey, Fat Joe. What's up, God? I just told you a ass Tom Swett other day, Sam. What's up, Buzz you? I said, him. Yeah, Jada, you give it. Hey, Pussy.

Hey, come on. You from Southern Bull. He said, I'm not pussy. I'm from Southern Boulevard, Joe. He's for the Bronx. He's not pussy. I said, Dan, the motherfucker I heard me. We all found, you know, yo, Jada, you're giving up the sequence.

When is the album dropping? 24th. Yep. Yep, this month. 24th with the film. Make sure you all check it out, man. Real hip-hop. Authentic shit.

You got to try it. Play one. Yeah, we got a hit. Like the intro. Play business merger. Business merger. Business merger. Play that joint.

Play me the joint that you think might could be the biggest. Because fly the pickle is going to be the biggest after this show. Play the video with the joint. That's the song. You sure you want to do the video? Why? Because that shit is listening. No, but we could hear it, in a seat.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. This is exclusive. You might have given us two tasks. You're never played nobody. We're going to have to multitask. You know, watch the video. We never played nobody's video.

This is exclusive. We're getting exclusive in. First time. This exclusive. That's crazy. Anderson Pack was a great guy. Same time. Yeah, that's my God.

And then we're staying with each other, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're sitting right there with him. He's with him. I got a different reaction. He's probably a great guy, too. Molly must have been in your cat. He probably just on something.

Legend. He was on that Yala. When I see Mar's, when I see Marz. No, no, no. He was probably on that. matter of fact. He must have been on that dead end when I met him. He was on that dead end.

He was on that dead end. He was on that dead end. He was on that dead end. Get loud, please. Yeah. Out. H.B. West Coast.

Eyes closed in my heart open just to get this off my chest and left my heart broken Seeing how goofies a move for the green saying we on the same team but what do that mean Why build a bridge just to watch nigger set it a blaze don't get me heated ain't no way to control the inferno feel a spirit of prodigy i've been keeping the thorough i'd rather do it by my lonely than fake with the peck and if you can't stay down and stay where you at i feel like we're the new standard i'm going over the matters from information i gather that i'm finding the end I've been reading over the chapters They doctoring up the numbers

Forging all of their data My godly values Speak at high values Without ever happen to be the loudest in the room I move like a commander in the military You ain't even qualified Get past the preliminaries Separate a war winners

True from a war presenters I seen some evil done I'm still shaking off the jitters I'm coming with the thunder Yeah I'm going Thor with the hammer Was counting six, seven, eights before I lived in Atlanta It's my heart that make me different This link is apocalyptic, me and out

Moving peer of the niggas in our division I'm tired of acting like this shit ain't watered down for real fucking nine to five and you can't relate to this type of feel now Gay boys a break now I gotta deal with me I try to give them the game they ain't keeping real with me I at homies that are supposed to come up and get rich with me I'm sure these I're supposed to stay down and have kids with me

Long story it's a lot now my circle's so small that it's closer to a dot They thought I was wrecking Grape Street I'm turning up the whites while I'm beating up the pice Right now I'm speaking with my chest out Smoke to prevent from getting stressed out The Lamborghini got the breast out I'm working with a different type of text out everything simple

Janit and a protect out I'm not a vegan I'm a reptile My appetite for this collection is getting trifling Go If I can't sneak a rifle and got paper In circulation we keep it cycling We don't do collaboration and some business merger cut a pot split a burger

And make a stretch like a fitness worker I'm on my shit for certain On stage checking a mic behind a custom Dr. Romanelli Curtin. I'll give you extra cuts like a deluxe version. A couple stripes when I'm finished, you need a cut surgeon. Hits drum and got the truck swerving. Meetings with a tuck shirt in. You can never put enough working.

I'll put a couple hundredk hours in days without showering. No face to put a flower in. No paper to put the sour in. Still no way I'm going to throw the towel in. Me and HB standing 5'7 are still looking down on bums and towering. Never heard it like this Back to back Beat for beat

Hey Bring it back I gave you boys a break Now y'all gotta deal with me I try to give them the game They ain't keep it real with me I homies I'm supposed to come up And get rich with me

Ask them sure these I was supposed to stay down And have kids with me Long story, it's a lot Now my circle's so small That is closer to a dot That thought I was reping Great Street I'm turning up the Watts Nigger beating up the Pots

Yeah Yes Yes Good out here We're good out here I'm going to be good Man I hear too

like two different Like It's that one part To us I don't know It's the fourth A bar What the fuck

That was crazy That was nuts Goldfish man The album The movie experience. Make sure y'all get in on all platforms. Make sure y'all are going to go on tour?

Man, listen, he on tour right now. This is when you're getting it in. We're going to do some shows. Yeah, y'all got to do some shows. We'll see where it goes. You know, we got a lot of stuff on the plate. I got mad shit going. But right now, we're in this phase going to fit. This week, you're going out of.

You're off. I'm moving, man. I'm out of you, man. I hope you guys. I appreciate it. You're moving. Hey, boy, you already, you know, when your fucking sneakers are Melton. You are so on fire when you're sneaking. Yo, Jada, look to the left, man.

That thing is got melting. It's a sick, man. That's shit. He's got a mirror. These are... They got you, much. Make some harm. That shit, this shit is...

Japanese. John got some of those. And then you got the melting joints. Check this out. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss, motherfucker. Give it up to a guest I can miss a hit boy

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