Joe and Jada - The Game, Fat Joe & Jadakiss talk 50 Cent beefs, Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake & more (PART 1)

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Compton legend The Game in one of the biggest episodes of Joe and Jada to date. They dig into the story behind Game's falling out with 50 Cent due to his loyalty to ...Joe, Jada, and Nas, who had all been involved in beefs with 50. The Game also breaks down the making of "Hate It Or Love It," why Jada and The Lox were such an inspiration to him despite living on opposite coasts, what he meant when he name-dropped Kendrick Lamar on his latest mixtape Gangsta Grillz: E.M.N.T – The Credits, and why he could only sit back and watch the beef between Kendrick and Drake like the rest of us. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:53 Listen to if you can hear me on my iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Later on, I see Joe in 50 squash it. Yo, son, look, I'm like, no waiter friends. But this is not the old Joe. Oh, the Lord. You in L.A., Joe. Crack the dawn. It's your boy Jada.
Starting point is 00:02:36 You know what it is. The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic. We crushing shit, All-Star 2026, live. from L.A. You think of today's guests, you think of bars, you think of lyricism, you think of controversy,
Starting point is 00:02:58 you think of a hell of a father, somebody who's very opinionated. Somebody's loyal. Loyal. You think of, you think of hip-hop. You know what I mean? He bleeds hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You think of album sales. You think a debut, they duct tape them to, a rocket ship on his debut. You think if somebody was able to be work under conglomerate status in the, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:27 You think of West Coast. You think of Compton. You take it easy eat. You think of one of the goats. One of the greatest rappers are all the time. Give a lot of our guests today, my brother. The gay. Make some noise.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah. Come on. You know, fat. Come on. You know, you know, I thought. You know, I'll reach a call. cross the thing. Some motherfucking goat-like.
Starting point is 00:03:49 You know what's crazy is, and I don't want to fuck up my shit, but I just, because you're crazy game, but a lot of crazy. Today I still a lot of crazy. No, no, he's crazy. He calls me, he calls me right after I do the show at Yankee Stadium. He said, yo, they put a drug dealer on the field. Joe, that thing is crazy, yo. They got a drug, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:12 They know who they put on a Yankee game before? I can't believe it when you, when you're, get to these, like when you, when you reach these heights, they'd be like, yeah, chill fat, chill. No one, you're not fat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, used to be fat. You know what I'm saying? Thank God.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You look good. You're just to look bad. That's what you're going to be fat, Joe. I'm going to take my hood of you all, because look, you're doing amazing, by the way. You're doing like, me and Kess, we still way down here, right? A little bit, a little bit. You, you don't.
Starting point is 00:04:43 No, no. You got, not. Not how they call you got you, you, you snoop, Like, your friends are Mark Stewart. You got those. And they're going to film color. Yeah, your friends, you got different. I'm a lucky guy.
Starting point is 00:04:54 No, look, they see you coming and they see nice guy. And me, I see Joe Kraft. He called me from Yaksie. You, they put a rough deal on the field. What kind of shit is this? This is my connection. Yeah. You know, that's the damn.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's all you thought up. How about you finish your set and didn't have to go. do a deal. He had to go. Yo, crack is like, you like Tommy and Ghost Mix. You like them real characters. This niggas doing TV shows about you.
Starting point is 00:05:27 No, they're right to cut you off. That's one of the things that I do love about hip-hop. We got success stories and people who didn't finish high school. This and that is a large percentage of rapists who can't read. We tell you the wildest shit you ever heard in your life and I'm going to say here. My daughter's in.
Starting point is 00:05:46 My daughter's into golf. And she said, Dad, as he's into golf, she's in some rich golf shit, and she's like, Dad, do you have a friend? Billy Dance from M-O-P, M-O-P, M-O-P matchout Possi? He golf said, my golf, I said, M-O-P, Billy Dianz, play golf. I said, you know who they are?
Starting point is 00:06:08 She was like, Dad, says one of your best friends for many years. He plays golf in my country club. I said, you know, what the fuck? Shout out to my brother, Billy. You never know hip hop, but take it this far. A lot of success stories. I seen somebody do what I did or what he did. I seen Jim Jones tell the world the crack he know.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And I saw that and I said, that's right. Somebody else knows. Somebody else, you know what it is. Proud of you. Thank you, my brother. You know, we had Jaylen Rose yesterday. He's about to start talking about how I say, you know, I saved this life in Miami.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He said it. They were sticking them up. Three in the morning, they had them like this. Sticking them up. The Zos, I stopped, the Rose Royce came out to say, yo, he with me. They was like, hook crack? I was like, he with me. They was like, for real, his jewels is already in their hands and all.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I was like, yo, Jaila, get in my car. Because, you know, I don't even trust, like, real criminals. Like, they'll stop for a second. You turn the corner. They'll fucking rob the digger anyway. I said, no, give my call with me. Now, Joe, Wolf, he was saying it yesterday. He said it.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Okay, beloved. You know, they, yo, they say, I'm a hallucinator. I'm a liar. I'm a capper. Get it. Yo, they said it. You get out of control. Hey, they got like a fucking,
Starting point is 00:07:33 they got a lying or hallucinating Mount Rushmore. I wasn't on it. No, no, you're on it. Was it? It's me, you, Jim Jones, and who else? They said we're the liars of all time. No, no. Well, swear to God.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It is. Yes. You know how they do this shit. Yeah, the Rushmore's. No. R. Speed game. Combo. Jones and somebody else.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You win at everybody. Yeah. You still go at everybody. Nah, no. Yeah, recently you tampered with a little Kendrick Lamar. You just like, I'm the best rap. I don't think. I was about that.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't think that was it. Can we get the bad ass? I'm not going to lie. If somebody asks, Kess, who was the best rapist? from New York and you don't say yourself, our friendship gets different. Yeah, you ain't. Same role for you.
Starting point is 00:08:20 One of the greatest rap. Nah, I just get money. So I'm not, I don't give a fuck no for you. You can keep the best rap up from New York. If we're talking about, all right, so look. But you are definitely
Starting point is 00:08:29 top, your goat, and you should be considered one of the greatest rapists like in that list because you've been spitting it. Nobody can rhyme like you, game.
Starting point is 00:08:41 That's the fucking true. But I'm on the hallucination Mount Rushmore, so I can't. No, not. There ain't no flowers on there. It's just all right. After the cyber world, you created two games.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. Because you crash out when you want to. You support, you do whatever, all that shit. I don't count the cyber. But when you, when you're an album mode and you recorded, that's a whole other game that they can't.
Starting point is 00:09:06 They can, it's undeniable. You hear that? You're trying to niggins. He can't never say no. The universe is alone. Game, we don't give a, fuck about what nobody thinks and nobody's out here.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Everybody knows you're one of the nicest niggas ever lived. And you're lawyer. All right. So let's just go. This is the second time I said that. We got the positive guy with the one. We're going to get engagement. Don't blow us.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I don't mean to cut you off because that's... I was about to tell you about your loyalty. I'm saying about you. But you tell me about his... No, look, bro. When I came in the game, I'll tell your story that nobody knows. It said, me and.
Starting point is 00:09:45 in him and then I'll get to you in a minute. Kiss came to the W, bro. Before I had an album out, he came to the W. He picked me up. He took me to Y-O. This is Yonkers for your kids and TV men. We jumped in the Beamer truck. I was so amazed that he had the Beamer truck. I wasn't
Starting point is 00:10:01 on like that yet. He had the Super Timberlens on. Not just the regular Timbs from the joint. The ones, Jada Kiss's foot is in these Timbs. You get what I'm saying? No, from a nigga from Compton who was trapping
Starting point is 00:10:17 when fuck the fresh shit came by. Because when the coat come in, they got to use the scales and they weigh the whales. I'm in Compton when I heard that. And I was like, what? Play it back. Nickets. So that Jaydickas came and got me from the W.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Hotel. When I first got on, bro, took me to Wai'all. We was in the studio. We hung out. We went to the bodega. He's all up in the joint. I got to ask one of my favorite lyricists about some shit. and kicking with them all day. We need to send you back to the double.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And are you, Mr. used to be fat chow? The shit that we, the way you embraced me when I came, man, being from here and just giving me love, bro, you had my back. You gave me everything I needed to survive on the East Coast. So that's why, like, you two niggas and Nas is not here. But you two niggas is part of the reason I got kicked out the group. I'm not going to lie. A nigga told me that this is for the world.
Starting point is 00:11:18 The nigga told me Finky had beef with Fat Joe and Kiss and Nas. If I'm lying up fucking flying, I said, this nigga just picked me up like four months ago, five months ago. There's no way I'm turning my back on him. And if we're talking about cracking, nigga, no way. So I guess I got to leave the group, nigga, about my friendship. Then years past, we got over. We heard this on Joe and Jeter. That is a fucking fact.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That's why I keep yelling. you because you refused to turn on, even though that was your guy. Yo, months later, not months later, years later, you know, we get older, we get early onset dimension, shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:02 But look, later on, I see Joe in 50 squash it. Yo, son, look, I'm like, no waiter friends. Yeah. What? This is not the old Joe.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Hold on. You in L.A., Joe. This is not the old Joe. This is the Asi Malam's father. He's changed. He's a different guy. Right? So I say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Crack is burying the hatchet. But I'm at home, and I'm seeing it. I was like, oh, okay. Well, damn. I don't know how I feel about that, but I'm your brother forever. But I don't know. I'm going to give me.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You was upset when that squash. I wasn't upset. I was just like, how. Now, guys, these young men don't know, but we have an honorable guest in the house. And slide that chair right here. We have the positive brother D1 in the audience, and we're going to be bringing them in and out of this episode.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Could be here, brother. Hurry up. By the way, he's saying, you don't got no mic. We got to put a mic on the spot right now. It's too late for that. But you can speak into the show. shirt. The positive brother, if y'all don't know the positive brother.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Hold up. Hold on. He's like, he's like when they do the sign language and shit on the day. That's what he's doing the day. Brother, when you in your educated positive mind, would you say that was positive for a hip-hop when Fat Joe and 50-Set squash
Starting point is 00:13:38 a beef that could have people money? Hey, that's what hip-hop needs more. Seriously. And anybody that's a grown man that wants to keep beef going, they can do better. They can do better, bro. And they wouldn't want their kids that are in private schools
Starting point is 00:13:57 and living in gated communities to be out there involved in some daily beef. So why would they want their favorite rappers still to be their ops to where you got to see somebody on the airplane and pillows getting thrown and people by the get kicked off planes? We are grandfathers at this point. Back to your seat deep.
Starting point is 00:14:13 How long we're going to be using you two out? I'm not going to lie. I was like, boy, Val, That was like, war and a woman. Back to the 50. You're straight. I'm not going to lie. I got him in the flesh.
Starting point is 00:14:23 When you get, when he put it that way, he has a point. Oh! He has a point. Yeah. Well, I was just, that was just me just poking fun at you, man. It's all good. But if you know anything about 50, I can say this because that was my, that was my funny. And we were in a fucking group that he allowed me to be in and get in early.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And 50 is a genius. He's a fucking asshole. He's a troll. He's a one day, me and 50, we're just going to go behind the thing. It's like brothers and just, I got to get it in with him just one time to see if he really built like that. What? I'll fuck with him. So, no, I'm saying, I feel you.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Today, there's no game, people, there's no game in 50 anything. And you, you know. You say one thing. You, you, I always say, no, no, I squash it because you're a little further than me in the West Coast. And I don't know if you know D1 or you too young or you too old But we really put in that work And I knew that I was going to go to jail Or I was going to get killed over that beef
Starting point is 00:15:29 I knew it And everybody else who had beef with them They were standing back like, oh, they're going to kill each other When they see each other And they were like, yo, let me just fall back enough And let Joe run into him Because I know what's about to happen So I knew I was going to jail
Starting point is 00:15:45 I knew I was going to get killed. The thing I say is the biggest fuck up or the biggest mistake and I know you did it for us the hip-hop history is that duo of 50 cent in the game
Starting point is 00:16:00 that was one of the that was snooping trade that was one of the greatest duo you never missed that you never said one day to yourself damn we would have kept making the illest music ever create
Starting point is 00:16:14 I wonder if 50 cent thinks that when he comes on the show, I ask him too, but I'm asking you. Did you ever, I don't want to say regret, but did you ever say, damn, we could have just smashed the whole game? I never said it once. You know what I said? I said, and I'll tell you what else I said once.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I said, I'm not going to, I don't give a fuck who it is. I would have told my mama this. Mom, I'm sorry. Kissed before I met him. was my nigga. You know, he's my first member of the, you know, if I got to rank the lots on three,
Starting point is 00:16:52 like, it's, kiss, and then it's, I love styles, right? I love him to death, but it's kiss, sheke is a fucking wildcars.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So I like that they need mommy and myself. With voice and like a leader and like, you know, every group, no matter what the fuck. Now, I've always respected that about you.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You stood on that and you, and you did the right, you here. Yeah. I'm telling you here. I'm a little kiss in the eye, bro. I sat there 24 years old, bro, and I could not go against our friendship.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I wasn't going to do that, bro. And it wasn't about, no, I didn't care. Number one, we was young, too. I didn't give a fuck. I really appreciated you coming and grab me, taking me to WIO and giving me experience that I could never forget, bro. I couldn't, it happened before the other shit happened.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So I could not go against that. You, you are. I know that I never knew that that was the real reason. Oh, no, that's a thing. You just said, me, you know, how relationship would you have with me and how he felt about crack? Me, he just saying, fuck it, though.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Well, no, no, he said it. I was starting with some other things. No, no, no, no, no. He got on the radio. Fuck, you was. Hey, yo. Game said, you just won't be a go. Hey, crack.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Tell them what I said on. Lord. You see a all time. It's him. You know, then it's Yale now because you, I think you crazy. Hey, yo. Crag.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Game said. What, Dana. What I say on. on the radio. Game say anything on the earth. Well, Drake from Kula Dreene love. They don't love. They worship games. For any time, I think he's tweaking a while and not at
Starting point is 00:18:26 me to anybody go, yo, crap. You know, that man's, that man got that beef over you and kissed. And I be like, damn, sometimes I got to stand next the game. Even when you're not there, you don't even know. I'm arguing in the studio. He doesn't go down. Just because I'm like, yo, I got a, I got a
Starting point is 00:18:43 news. I knew somebody. He passed you with crazy. He put his nose. Oh, I'm crazy. He's, yo. Oh, I'm for having it dead it to you for how crazy. He's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I never knew that. It's kind of like you had to. You know, every time I'm not coming out. If you don't crash out, you had to get out of the group anyway. I thought you knew, though. Nah, really? Oh, he knew. We talked about.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Loud and clear. No, no, no. You said it to the world. I didn't have to know that. I said it on Flach. Niggas. When that shootout went down, the last thing he stuck before the shootout.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We might got a bigger bone to pick with Flex because he set me up with the question. The nigga ain't get at me. Flex was like, so, you know, Fiki got beef with KISS. He got beef with Nause. He got beef with Joe. I said, nah, I cut them off.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I was like, nah, they're non-negotiable. Ficky heard it and said it went on 105. and said, yeah, game ain't in the group. I didn't feel no way of it. I happened on the way to lie. Hey, you're having the same day, nigga. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:52 One day. Ew, dog. On one of the coldest nights in New York, I kid you not. You never knew that? Frozen. Yo, kiss, you ain't know that? Hey, yo. I knew that my whole life.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Hey, kids, look up the night of, look up the night of the shootout, one of the coldest nights in New York ever. I kid you not. I'm a look at up. Joe gave me like he still paid for my bill at Carbone. But like, you owe me? It's little sunsing, right? I take French Montana coming here and then got a mountain of diamonds on his shit.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Man, he didn't get a lot of money. To Dubai. I'm looking at him. I say, yo, save a little beast for later. Like, I took this fucking demo to bump blacks. Perhaps a little sunset for the other than... I'm looking at all them diamonds and shit. He's marrying the points of the dude.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I said this motherfucker must have forgot. I took his shit up to Hot 97 and made them play his shit. I'm like, maybe a little diamond, maybe a live? There's it like... Now one more question on my bucket. I always hated a love it to create. Shout out cool and Dre. I'm a shout out Cool and Dre.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It was one of the times I flew to New York. There was one of the time you didn't get me. Coppo got me this time. He dropped me over the W. That was my spiral. I love it. I was just fucking fourth in Broadway. I felt like a, I just felt like a king there, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I walk out the lobby, the jamba juice right there, the foot locker right there. I'm the guy. And I'm also 22, man. There's no jambor juice in Compton, by the way, just so, you know, maybe now, but it wasn't that. So being able to be in New York, walk out of the hotel, get the jamba juice, a gummy bear's off the menu. Walk across the street, get you some off, you know, some white Air Force ones in their mom. He dropped me off in the W.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Interscope Center Vane took me straight to Connecticut. Mike Tyson's old crib. I got OCD, so I noticed that the statue that was in the front of the crib had some cracks in it, but that's the story for another time. I didn't like that. I wouldn't like that. I would have fixed that. But we went there.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And maybe it was from when Mike had me, you know, but no one passed. Somebody should have fixed. Somebody should have passed. Because at this time, 50 just in the biggest thing going on hurt. We go and, um, Dr. from Cooner's Drake told me that 50 was holding something that was going to change the trajectory
Starting point is 00:22:17 of what we were doing together. He said 50 already put the hook on it, you just got to go slide in the parts that he had for you. And so when 50 say, I wrote, I gave Gany's records, he did give me those records. What I'm saying to 50 on Joe and Jada
Starting point is 00:22:35 or anybody that's listening, who thinks that my pen is lazy or some shit, that if 50, those are great records. Love. and I appreciate 50 for that because he, nigga, he's a jingly native. You know what I'm saying? He's called a hook for a reason.
Starting point is 00:22:49 He's great at that. But if 50 don't give me those records, bro, I promise you as me being who I am, I still am in the same position because, nigga, that's my destiny. That's what I set out for myself. I was going to achieve it by any means necessary. If I had to get fucking Snoop or Nate dog
Starting point is 00:23:05 to do a hook, nigga, I was to the moon because that's how I saw it for myself. Do I appreciate 50 for making it a little bit easier? so fucking loo. And this nigga, I'm telling you, bro, this nigga, he's a different nigga, but I understand this nigga, I know this nigga, and he, the shit that he do to everybody else, it don't work
Starting point is 00:23:22 on me. So it's like, nigga, we have to be friends, nigga, because you are a piece of shit, and so am I. So we might as well go sit on somebody's line and wait for a nigga to step in us, nigga, because we are fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that's where we at. Think about it. Think about it. This thing is
Starting point is 00:23:40 the ultimate troll, bro. He don't give a I think pull out the seat Oh man, here we go Positive brother This episode Hold on Hold on
Starting point is 00:23:49 He's like a tone Hold on He's like a touch Man Would it be nice To see a tour With 50 cent In the game
Starting point is 00:23:58 Together for hip hop music Hold on For general Or not Let him Oh he is a pot of But let me say
Starting point is 00:24:06 50 won't do it Unless he gets 51% And I got 49 Who gives a fuck 49 is a hundred 100 million. I hear about that. 100 million.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Let me talk to you about that being on the sake. No, we don't want that tour. We don't want that tour. No, sir. The 50 said in that game... Listen, man. Listen, I love y'all. Y'all might disagree with my point of view,
Starting point is 00:24:26 but I'm going to keep it a hundred. There's life and death in the power of the tongue. If they do that tour together, how many records are we going to hear where there's 25,000 people every night coming to hear us glorifying, killing each other, glorifying, selling dope,
Starting point is 00:24:42 even though we've graduated past that stage in our lives, that's the thing. You might be too scientific. Would you want to see positivity and the rap is coming together? So watch this. Hold on. And we see...
Starting point is 00:24:54 Oh, but before you even go into that, and I just give you a little... Talk to them. I just want to give you one thing and then I want you to go right back into your... Ben, bad, back. After I give you this jewel, I wanted to marinate and saute...
Starting point is 00:25:07 Bear. And blend in what you was about the same. But if you do know this is an art form, With today's society, they created drill music where they actually go do something that didn't make a song about it. That's what you should be trying to eliminate. Our art form was people
Starting point is 00:25:25 that had to do stuff for their family, this and that. But music in general was art. So I'm sure you like, I don't know what kind of movies you like, but everything you saw didn't happen in that mood. So you can't hold... So you don't watch no movies with violence and nothing like that?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Watch this. This is not a movie. The main phrase in hip hop is that we keep it real. If it's a movie, keeping it real, staying healthy, taking kids, making sure your teeth is right,
Starting point is 00:25:56 making sure your socks is white. And things like that is keeping it rich. So if you got the KKK, the Georgia version, and then the Tennessee chapter, and then the Texas chapter. And if they say, yo, we're about to go on tour together
Starting point is 00:26:12 and celebrate how good we've been hating black people all these years. We would be up in arms. We'd be ready to ride on. Why? Because of what they represent. Right? So, I should have told you
Starting point is 00:26:24 you didn't know what was happening there. Put a little fentanyl on the dope with this episode. Just a little fentanyl. You don't need the dog. Because he's giving us the pure night. Oh, yeah, this is pure. He's coming with a yon. He's coming with a yon.
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Starting point is 00:29:50 Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss that changes you, purpose when success isn't enough, peace when your mind won't slow down, faith when it's common, complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like
Starting point is 00:30:21 there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in Montgomery. Modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict? A villain.
Starting point is 00:30:54 A nurse named Lucy Lettby. Lucy Lettby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.
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Starting point is 00:32:29 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If gang would have got killed, I used the intern for Jimmy Hinton when I was in Cotton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, watch this. I got to give you a flag. Hey, you can give me a flag. Positive person in the world. You can give me a flag?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah, we don't say. Use another example. All right. What is he say? If the game really got killed. Watch this. Lord forbid, if any of y'all brothers lose your lives, the rap game would be crying.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Why do we cry when rap was died? But we love when they glorify murder when they're alive. Why do we say that we love one another, then turn around and backstab our brother? Why do we say that we cherish our sisters, then disrespect them and call them all? That's my whole thing. It's like a walking contradiction in the game.
Starting point is 00:33:21 We say it's this unity and we love each other. But then it's this music. The problem is, I'm going to get you get to six. Hold on, no, no, no. You know, the world. You know, if you're getting out the president of Venezuela. You know. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:34 That's the world we live in. If you know that, if you say you have your way, right? Right. And there's nothing for positivity rap. Right. How far you think that adult? Let's call it reality rap. Not positivity rap.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Because I rap about. I rap about murder. I rap about drugs. What's going on? Murder drugs just... You can't say, oh, Lord, you just... Is it a double...
Starting point is 00:33:57 It's a double... It ain't a does. Reality. Game, you're going to appreciate it. It's killing... No, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. It's bombing.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Listen, we love you. So somebody has to... All right. Because we're not there yet. Okay. Right? You come straight with the... You're walking with Jesus through the...
Starting point is 00:34:18 Somebody. Hey, yo, this is all right? This niggas so positive. This nigga, D1 so positive, he's holding the red flag, kissed the weapon. So you know who you talk. Bro. No, this is my God.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Wait, me, I just wanted a voice consciousness. Serious question. Serious question. It's a dream come true to be up here with y'all. You here, brother. I used the intern for Jimmy Hinchman when I was in college when he was managing game, right? Top five in my book. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:44 We didn't talk behind the scenes in New Orleans. You're showing me love. All this. Listen. Can everybody not understand that it's a difference between narration and glorification? So talk about what you saw in YO. Talk about them horror stories of comforting. For sure.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Talk about it. Narrate your life. I got to talk about New Orleans and what I saw. But when we glorify it and make it sound cool, and that little sixth grader sitting in the crowd, they don't have discernment to know the difference between he telling his story, but now he's making it sound like it's good to go kill somebody. And we saw a lot of glorification coming up,
Starting point is 00:35:16 glorification of all the negativity. I was a hot boys fan. The hot boys told me how to run a train off females. You know how to... Military people told me thank you when they came back from Iraq
Starting point is 00:35:30 in Afghanistan who keep us and told me thank you. I listened to your music. You know the guy who put the join in bin Laden was listening to the Red Nation. You know,
Starting point is 00:35:46 You know the lyrics to Red Nation? I know the lyrics. I know the lyrics. I know the lyrics. I know the lyrics. All right, back over there. Hey, yo, yo, his Biscuit. Put some cut on the state.
Starting point is 00:35:59 He's coming to. Like, I'm trying to make him a part of this. He's giving his true opinion. Yeah, that's too much. Hey, I love D1 though, man. I love him too. I got him on the fucking biggest. This is the biggest episode ever.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I got him on here. And you know how you got it on here? Yo, I could ignore you, right? Hey. I'm letting you talk this shit. Hey. Hey, but if you were to, hey, you know, I ain't gonna lie. Nobody does that.
Starting point is 00:36:28 That's why we number one. If you would ignore him, he would have told you about that time I didn't ignore. And then I vibe with him. And then I did the song with him. So it's like, you know, you can't ignore a guy like that anyway. He got, he on a different path, man. It's, it's, if you know, if y'all don't know. You know how I's a judge podcast now?
Starting point is 00:36:46 about the money y'all putting your cameras, y'niggas rich. Ooh. Yeah. But D1, D1 on his way, man. Y'all getting a lot of money this, you know, we're on Netflix, right? Of course you are.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Why would you be? Don't even let them talk. Don't even let him talk. Don't even let him talk because this guy here. There's too many opinions here. Listen to me. You're getting great. You got great sets.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You're in the soul house in L.A. This is great. Okay. But, you know, we're on Netflix now. Can I ask y'all to both cool questions, man. I know violence, hood, no Y, O, Compton, Bronx, no, none of that. Because I just, after he left and you just said, what we're on, I looked at y'all too.
Starting point is 00:37:30 These are my friends. You're my brothers, too. I changed my whole career because of the big. Literally. My whole path, I jumped off with my brothers. So you was on before me. He was on before you, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 who did you look up to before you got them? And then you, same question. Because I'm sitting here with two niggas that I rocked with, and I go back to Fat Joe when Pund got out. And yeah, and, you know, a lot of people had different interpretations. I was in Compton, but I know the whole story. And I also know Fat Joe, so I know what punning to you and what that friendship was.
Starting point is 00:38:08 But I wasn't on when you got on. I wasn't on when you got on. But I know when I got one, nigga, this is why I'm near 50 buddy. because I listened to you before. I mean, sometimes you crash out anytime, anytime anybody got to say anything with comparisons with me and you, I just tell them, did you ever hear him say, you know, when he's got a youngish flog.
Starting point is 00:38:35 That right there for me, I never got a rebuttal. Fifty said gave you one of those two, right? The only live niggists, they're coming from y'all. Yeah, so that's what, that's made that. kind of weird to me, but, you know, after, you know, whatever, whatever. Well, you thought it's a boss?
Starting point is 00:38:52 No, not, no, I'm saying with fifth. After he said that, then, you know, he's crazy. But when game said that, in a hundred bars and running, that solidified his understanding of what... There's one question I've been dying at X game
Starting point is 00:39:10 that's not controversy, not, not, not, not. L.A. has brought too much to the game. but when I go to L.A. party they play L.A. sounding music. Everybody start dancing like this and this, it's different. That was different. Let me get that.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I'm trying. I don't know if you're crippling a blood walk and I want to know which one is. Because they're going to have questions for it. You know if I'm in the gang. I'm in the bloods. I'm like, in our family. What they do?
Starting point is 00:39:39 You know that. You know what the fuck they're doing, nigga? I'm going to get sick calls. I'm going to get sick calls. You see. You see Serena Williams, quit walking in the fucking Super Bowl. What I'm trying to say is
Starting point is 00:39:51 LA got their own sound. They got their own flaws from anywhere, from MCA, from fucking quick, from all they always had their own flow. And game is the only guy that's a... Compton.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And make New York music. I know it's L.A. music. It's not the music. It's not the music. It makes... L.A. music. I never understood. He got a little bit of a new...
Starting point is 00:40:20 Like, how you knew that like that, like I said, you're the only one. And he just told you he was listening to. I told you, I'm not going to lie, man. I listen. I've been, I've been, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:29 not to cut off. How did you? Because you're trying to tell you. Can I explain something? I want to paint the fucking bitch of these people. It's a story. The man's it caught it.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Gang banging. Niggis just like, yo, hey, hey, caught. Westside, like they're doing all that shit. They listening to all that backyard buddy. And the man comes with the New York flow, the New York music.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Like, I don't know how you did that. That's what I'm trying to explain. I'm going to tell you. I'll walk you down real quick. It's three elements to this, three elements to the answer to your question. Number one is 60 minutes of font.
Starting point is 00:41:16 phone flex off rep, right? Every phone flex tape, I even email my demo to Flex on a tape. He got it. Flex wrote me back in the mail before internet. There's no internet. He wrote me back. He said, if you ever in New York, come see me. This is why to this day, if I can call Flex right now,
Starting point is 00:41:38 I guaranteeing me pick up. And he'll counteract the story. That shit right there, right? it was Pung song Punish me I'm not this is no lie
Starting point is 00:41:52 and when I do when we when me and you get to doing our shit like this they say we lying
Starting point is 00:41:57 when Pung got out and he put the album out and everybody was on I'm not a player I just crush a lot I was on punish me
Starting point is 00:42:05 I was the luckiest man on nerve my business is worth anything you know what I'm saying like that's what I was on and I was on digging in the crais
Starting point is 00:42:13 but the album that changed my life to a right? It's Illmatic. Illmatic saw me 16s and 8th. And then we all the streets, let me know that, nigga, I really
Starting point is 00:42:25 can do this shit for real. All I got to do is be myself and figure out how to beat fuck the frail shit. So that, and I'm not even lying when I say, it's two motherfucking bars in my life, right?
Starting point is 00:42:42 Fuck the frail shit. I'll say it to anybody. Fuck the frail shit. because when a cold come in, they got to use the scales that they wear the whales with. Incredible, right? The other one that's Pop's knew exactly what he did when he made me try to get a nut and he got none.
Starting point is 00:42:56 One. Three, if I'm doing the top five, three is, all my G's moving silence like, let's on. Right? And I don't even got to do four and five because you understand that my,
Starting point is 00:43:08 the way that I studied hip hop was in a me notebook, nigger with the silver wings, with a pen. I am really a student. So when niggas get to playing with my legacy because I'm a funny nigger and I troll niggas and all that, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Every nigga got their own fans. Kitt's got his own fans. I see you on take beating the shit out that nigger that can't name. We just got positive with dick up. Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, yo, D1. Come in, man. Come in, man.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Hold on because we can't have, Hey, yo, D1, let me talk to. D1, we can't have our hip-hop goals bringing up old beats that's going to trigger shit. No, what we're doing? We in Los Angeles, too, D-1. Hey, a goat. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Joe, what's wrong with you, bro? Right here, D-Wan. Come on with you, Joe. Come on with you, Joe. Come on, hey, D-1, we're too late in the game. Hey, talk to him. It's only hip-hop. You don't see country stars talking about, well,
Starting point is 00:44:03 Garth Brooks. Remember back in the day when you was beating the crap out of Rod Stewart on camera? But we got a goat, a legend. I'm saying you don't see... This is the best choice on the planet Earth. You know, we got these. Garb Brooks beat up Tim McGraw.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Hey, yo, and I just saw, you know, I'm a visual nigga, you know. So I seen Garb Brooks break a hyniquin on the bar and then come at Ross Stewart with the, with the jagged edge of the shit. It's only us, bro. The closest you're going to get is jelly roll as Summer Slam or some shit.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I was dead. Yeah, well, you know, you got to know jelly roll before he slammed down low. Yeah, he was different. He got to get a name now. D1. Thanks for y'allel. You don't even got to switchy.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Hey, no. Yeah. You know, D-1, man, I let it stick right here. Fuck that. Yeah, man. Hey, but no, he's all the real shit. He had that coming. It was, it's all good when you,
Starting point is 00:44:58 if you want to have, if you want to go, you want to do lyrical warfare. I'm with all that, right? Like, when we see each other, we don't got to do that if you're, if it's just rap. But when you bring my kids in it,
Starting point is 00:45:09 you must want to exit Earth. You must want to die. You don't, bro. we ain't even at the end of my story. And plus D1 killed me like 10 minutes ago. So anyway, if it's about my kids, bro, I'm coming to see you
Starting point is 00:45:24 every single time. I don't play with him. Fuck him with him. His wife fucking with his kids. That just black them out. At this point, you're just like, oh, really? You see, now D1, I wouldn't say a little negativity.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I want you to ask D1 when he was. God. This is the fringest shit. I'm going to say, God, if you fucking with me, talking about me, bothering me, doing all this,
Starting point is 00:45:52 this, this, somewhere. I don't know if it's today, tomorrow, 10 years, he's going to give you to me in a gift.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I could be in a home deeper. I could be in an old senior citizens home. The motherfucker go walk up on the walk and I'm going to be like, now. Surprise.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Boppo, you had this coming. Yeah. You had this coming because I know. So when I see somebody just go, I just be like, all right. Don't worry. Don't worry. He's going to bring you to me. And I ain't talking about devil because I ain't got nothing negative about it.
Starting point is 00:46:25 God bring them to me someday and another. And a dunkin' donuts. Hey, fellas, are we doing here? What's going on, buddy, with all that shit you've been talking? It just happens every time. Tennis, wherever. Let me holler at you. The middle of...
Starting point is 00:46:40 Wimmel's right. That's right. This is square gone. Let me tell you something. middle of the This, no, anyway,
Starting point is 00:46:46 it's the game show. But it's used the bathroom and he drank toilet water in the middle of Madison Square Garden. Yeah, no, I can't do that. The guy,
Starting point is 00:47:00 yeah, I can't do that because the guy was, he's a good guy now. You know, this positive connocial weight, this positive commercial weight goes out to all those kids Joe robbed in that gym.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I know, I robbed all of me. All seven, D. Oh, I'm the only nigga. Hey, yo, Chris, I'm the only nigga Washington and said, mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, you can get it. And they help me with the stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I get another way, Batson. Give them the strong stuff. I love this, Jared. Y'all, isn't what you want me to do. Listen, D1, stay positive. There's pussy niggots and there's real nicks. I'm sorry if you can't fathom that because you used to get smacked
Starting point is 00:47:42 on the back of your neck and keep it more. Yeah. There's guys out there that were maniacs. Yeah, crack, you did it, crack. You know what's up. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is what it is. I was too wild.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I used to get bullied. So this is how it started, Steve one. I used to get bullied. It used to jump me. Let me tell you this, right? Do you know how hard it is to know to be in type? This is how old it is. Typewriting class.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Look out the window where every girl in the classroom saying, Joey, they're waiting for you 3 o'clock. You look out the window, they're going. You ever had that? No. Oh, I did every fucking day. Hey, I got a story.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I'm gonna say it. I got a story. You, James, save the story. I went to school. I never dropped out. I went there and got my ass. Whoop.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Every single day. I had hair. that will pull my hair and I beat the shit. Did that try not? Did that traumatize you? I'm traumatized now.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Hey, yo. Do rich. I don't give a book of my time. I'm traumatized. I got one of my losing. And then that's what turned me into it. So you know what happened? They caught my man.
Starting point is 00:48:59 He was my best friend in junior high school. They caught, it's in my book, Book Jose, and they caught my best friend. My mother fed him spice sandwich and cheese sandwiches every lunchtime. Quarter water. And they said, yo, why are you with this guy? Because I was a joke.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You ever been a joke where they pick on you for every day? You ever been a joke where, all right, we want to beat anybody? Or how about you want to join the crew and act like you're tough? Let's just beat up the fat nigga over here. I got my ass with every day. There is no Thanksgiving picture without an I, Jamie, bloody don't. They was beating the brakes off me every. Hey, yo, kiss me, looking at you like, he'd.
Starting point is 00:49:42 not your co-hunting, bro. He's got the people out there. Is it interesting? You, okay. He's got the people out there thinking this cat. I don't know what happened. He had a bonus. He's having a bonus.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Hey, bro. Let me tell you to my man, Lenny. Let him friendly. Who is my best friend. You got to cut him off. I play Pac-Man with every day. They came to him and they said, yo, if you don't jump him with us,
Starting point is 00:50:08 we're going to jump you. And guess what? my best friend Lenny jumped me with the Knicks Lenny was that Fuck him But you know what He would have still been in G
Starting point is 00:50:19 He would have still been in G-jured for sure Yeah Yeah yeah yeah Lenny would You know you It's somebody So I had no choice I just
Starting point is 00:50:34 I turned my heart turned black Unfortunately To your thing Every more important person person, the more crazy person that I would beat up or rob or something, people thought I was ill. That's crack. G.S. Yo, who's that?
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yo, that's some big distance that. Nick, I was viral before internet, TV, or any... But I was viable. The whole entire Bronx knew in my age group is a fat Spanish kid not to be fucked with on any
Starting point is 00:51:05 level. He's not playing. But that was the actual question. Forced me to do that. When did you make the transition from getting the brakes meat off you, then you start Leonard. Leonard at the lyrics me, I cried. Did you still have that hair
Starting point is 00:51:21 from the book of Jose? Was the hair there when you transitioned? I'm about to go to Turkey. I ain't going to lie because I was some smooth Vita L. Sasson shit on the front of the book. I had it. They thought I was lying. I got to tell them I had hair like the
Starting point is 00:51:33 Beatles and they thought I was lying. I'm like, yo, I had hair. Like, you got me fucked up. I had hair. And so thank God we had a picture that I had hair. Yeah. Right? The newest tracks.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Let's go. New music. And the next big thing. Always on the new music first. Your first place to hear it home. Because you're going to like it, love to want to play it twice. I'm playing now. I heart new music.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Your digital station for brand new drops, fresh vines, and tomorrow's bangers. I think we need something new. Discover I heart new music. Always fresh. Always first. Stream now on the free IHard Radio app. What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins.
Starting point is 00:52:29 And if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul. A place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks. And we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss that changes you, purpose when success isn't enough, peace when your mind won't slow down, fake when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Leppie. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside.
Starting point is 00:54:31 This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast. I now have several terabytes. of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question of his life. And that's a unicorn. No one had ever seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:55:00 It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its fault of secrets. Listen to the Sixth Bureau on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's so gay, man. My brother.
Starting point is 00:55:24 You went to everything You know one day I'm in Africa Right No no I'm not gonna say nothing Go in no You know how we got out of there You can say it We got it I say
Starting point is 00:55:36 Hey yo We in Africa This ain't gonna be long as one of it is It's a guy there Everybody I got it done I got to hate you for that But yeah
Starting point is 00:55:46 Hey yo Everybody in Africa In this part of Africa Knows there's a guy there He booked you he's saying you half a mill of front for one show. You feel like I hit the jackpot.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's right. $500,000. All I got to do is go do, fuck, duh, frail. I get to Africa. They pick me up and the benches like Mandela. Am I lying?
Starting point is 00:56:11 In the middle of Africa. Bro. Tough roads. They're the only ones with Beckley's in there. I got 10 shots in the shoulder to go to Afghanistan. Me too. Don't drink the water, but you can eat the pussy.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah. They pick me up in 10 bins is like Mandela. I'm sliding through the Congo niggas women with chicken on their head chickens on their head fucking footballs I'm like nigga it's really Africa There's a real average
Starting point is 00:56:34 That's a real afro it's a real africa You almost these niggas lock in the van Like nigga if the street fighter stole your money We go to the hotel We get to the five star hotel Great hotel Great hotel
Starting point is 00:56:48 Let me tell you what wasn't quite about it Out of the window there's millions of people This one wasn't great about the hotel You couldn't shower in the hotel unless you had bottle water. Five star. It's a guy there. His name is Riquino. They call him Casablanca.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Speak on it, God. Costa Blanca is Spanish. I didn't know at the time. I knew later it mean White House. So this is the president of the hood. He comes to the hotel. He got 19 million soldiers with him. They got hyenas on the chain, nigga.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm from Compton. I got, we got pit bulls. We got hyena. Aena. Hey, bro, they got hyenas on the chain. Here I go. I'm about to earn my spot on the hallucination mountain to Russia.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah, that's right. It's a spit hanging from the hyena. This is real grata. Now, you know, they don't know. It's a piece of spit hanging from the hyena mouth. It never hit the ground. It's between his tooth and limbo. It's hanging.
Starting point is 00:57:45 He come to me after the show. I just, thing I smoked it. I'm talking about 10,000 African homies. they, when I come on The people, though, no, the people love her. Oh, they love us. When I come on stage, they're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Then I come on stage, they're like, again, you are, it's a, you and Tupac for me on the West Coast. It's you and Tupac, nigga. A million niggas. I'm saying, like, nigger for me with Tupac, nigga, give me the Java juice, niggas. This nigger, he loved me.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I'm the king. This nigga come to me and said, we need to get you to the hotel. You have show tomorrow. I said, take my chrome hearts off. I said, a show tomorrow. I had my baby mama and my little son,
Starting point is 00:58:29 baby from the documentary, they're on their way to London because I'm about to take this $500,000 in London. We bought to live. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did, I did how we do a hate a science. I did five songs off the documentary. Them niggas were crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I went back, I'm going back to the band, making for $500,000. I'm 100,000 per song. He said, you got to do a show tomorrow, right? I said, ah, it was one show. He said, no, five show. Now you're playing. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Because I think that you think, I'm Ching. No disrespecting Ching. What I mean? Hey, yo, I'm not going to lie. I love Chinggy. I love Ching. Hey, yo, what I'm going to fight. Hey, yo, what I mean is, what I mean, you, listen.
Starting point is 00:59:15 What I mean is, you know how niggas try to play Shin'Ingy. like he wasn't the right stare nigger. Chingi was hot. Yeah. Kingy was almost hot as Nelly when I came in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:27 So when I say, Ching, I don't mean no disrespect, because he's... Oh, you understand. He's been getting mad at niggas lady. Cheney, he's been out. He's been out.
Starting point is 00:59:34 No, he's my God. Love Chingie. I was buckled to King. And he had to join me. Tyrese keep holding me back, that shit was five. It's almost equivalent to Nellie and Kelly Roe, but that's one another time.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But this nigga told me, I'm gonna do five more shows for the five hundred. So I said, Damn. So he's telling you you got five more. Five more, bro. For the bread he already sent you.
Starting point is 00:59:54 My kids, oh, tell me if I'm lying. He's singing you to bread for you leave, for you leave. Before you leave that money in. The bread is in the bank account. The bread is in the bank account for you leave over. Yes, right.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Now, go ahead. You know how many artists didn't go and robbed them for a million? And yo, I'm the nigger who got verbally abused for the whole game of hip-hop. You want the positivity? I'm in a whole joke. Missy Elliott. I fuck her. Hey.
Starting point is 01:00:19 This one, that one. He's trying to get me to put everybody on the phone. Cleese Brown. Phone and sell him a million dollars. He'll come. He fucked me. With a hundred niggas with machine guns behind him, I'm like, no cap on the machine guns, no nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Let me hear that. I'm stuck in the average. Five shows. Let me hear this out there. Crack, I'll come down. Look, I get down, I'm like, 500 in the bank, 500. I'm coming down my hotel. Oh, yeah, by the way, nigga, I'm on the 59,000 floor.
Starting point is 01:00:48 a nigga up there. That's how he laid it out. Shanti, Ashanti took the money, didn't show up even my city. Good for her. What's the slur? What's he was too smart? I come down to the hotel. I see my,
Starting point is 01:00:58 I see my cousin by the elevator, bro. He got the, he's doing this. No, niggas got the scary face. Well, I come down. He had a security as far as this feeling. That nigga end up looking like a midget. Hey, yo.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Everybody got quiet out there. You in Africa. Everybody is at the end of hobby. This nigga was this small. He was this big. His name was Biff. That nigga started looking like this. He got the cry fits.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I have a few. I had a few. The face like this like, yo, Biff. They flew with you. Yes. I broke my niggas.
Starting point is 01:01:34 This is early. This is this doctor's advocate day. I look at every, it's, nigga, my fucking, my whole, this one I'm traveling with 34. The MX got kidnapped out there.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Oh, you know, yeah. All my niggas over here like this. I can't see what they see. I'll come off the elevator. It's behind me. I don't look behind me. I look at my feet. Everybody's like, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:58 they like, I look behind me, bro. It's 50 niggas with the African unions. Different kind of pressure. Everybody got a machine gun bigger than bow. No, no, they got that. But fuck the machine guns. Fuck the machine guns. I see that one coyote, the one that came and picked me up
Starting point is 01:02:16 from the airport. The same spit. still hanging. Same spot. I said, that's how I know it. Seriously. It's the same coyote. You almost gave a nigga name. Look, he told me five shows. So I said to myself,
Starting point is 01:02:30 I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. I am. I'm gay. And I said, we're an athlete. I said, you know what I got on this, nigga? Boys in the other colors and men in society. You know they watch the movies. I'm from that. So, nigga, I turn around for a second
Starting point is 01:02:46 away from him. my niggas is my cousin Damo for sure. He looked at me, he was like, what's going to do? I said, I turned around that nigga, I said, hey, nigga, I ain't doing no shows, blood. I said, you pay me for one show. He said, I paid me for five. I said, you pay me for one.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I said, he, this niggas not moves by my antics. He looked like Mohammed Ali too. It's like a handsome. That nigga, hey, yo, he looked like the young Lama. He's not kept. He ain't got no white in his eyes. So I'll tell this, nigga, like you. I said, nigga, I said, you know where I'm
Starting point is 01:03:17 You know how I get it. I'm not doing the show. No white. I'm not doing the show. I got my kid's mother and my child found in London. He wasn't moved yet. KISS?
Starting point is 01:03:27 He didn't give a fuck about my baby. I'm going to. So I said, I said after I come from London, I come back and do the other four shows because I had to get in the bullshit. You guys get out of there. He said, okay, you come back.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Four days you do the show. Right? I said, all right. I called my kids' mom. She's like, yeah, we just landing in the heat throw. I said, okay, I meet y'all there. He took us to the airport.
Starting point is 01:03:52 He got us in. He said, don't lie to me. And you know what he said after that. I don't know what he said. I kidnapped DMX. I don't care. I said, you kidnap X. It's one of the illus good niggas ever.
Starting point is 01:04:08 There's only one thing. He got a woman. He kidnapped ex-kiss. Kiss. Hey, he kidnapped. I get to fuck. Hey, kids, he kidnapped. Hey, kids.
Starting point is 01:04:19 He kidnapped. The U.S.S. Embassy, ex had to run to the end. Skate. Oh, you just pulled up in the parking lot because they're there. They know you kidnapped. So while you eating breakfast, there's like white dudes standing over there going.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Okay. You're okay. Blink twice. Do you know who you wit? What? Yeah, they give me a card and was like, yo, you call it. We'll come to the garage, get you out of here in the plate.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Like, you're kidnapped. Now, Buster called. No, Bussar, I was with that, Mr. Buss? You, you think you, we all know. We know Bust around. I had to call him down like, he was like, fuck that crack this. I said, bro, there's no guns. Where are you going to go?
Starting point is 01:05:01 Where are you going to say? You know, Buss. He did all this shit. There's nothing to do, Bust went out the back and got on, I don't know who Buss called or who your call. You got a private jet out of the, got a moment. But you want to know who's the only guy.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I got to be real. Anybody. You want to know, now he just, oh. Hey, bro. Pause. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 01:05:22 He gets off on kidnapping. Hey, he gets off. Hey, I paid a lot of money to get the biggest niggas here from America. Now you can't need. Hey, crack. This nigga.
Starting point is 01:05:33 That's the shit. Hey, we now, now, hey, fast forward. 15 years. 15 years. Cracks is over there living his life. You're living your life. I'm living mine.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Busting in. Nah. They're living their life. Right? they a news a thing hit my shit it's a Casablanco
Starting point is 01:05:51 arrested that's the first time I was like he fucking to send me yo get this nigga out of here the nigga is unfair
Starting point is 01:06:00 the first time hey yo I don't ever shit for a nigga let me tell you what he used to do to me right because I was really
Starting point is 01:06:09 kidnapped for like two three weeks but I made the most money I ever made my life I can't lie he kept sending up Yeah. Oh, he's nice, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:16 His bread is in his. Oh, he's sent it. See the nigga, I'll tell you that open the trunk with like 50 million. It gave me 50,000. Look like it was a toothpick. He had the most money. I wanted to kill him. I'm not going to buy it.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I was like, there's nowhere. This is the one time I literally, God forgive me, D.1. I thought a killing. Like I said, yo, I should stab this shit out this nigga and take this trunk. Where are you going, though? But I'm not going nowhere. with all this dick. So I go like, it was too much money.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So I go like this. You know what he did to me? The money's falling. The money's falling. God damn, I must be talking some bullshit. Let me tell you something. The man go and say, you know, he can't be making.
Starting point is 01:06:59 No, no. No, but he's looking at me. He just started laughing. Because he's Portuguese. He used to talk to me in Portuguese. He started laughing. I look. He says, he tells me in Spanish.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I know you're not pussy called a gym. You just can't do nothing. They're living I know you're not pussy card Gene, I could tap He was wrecking me the same way He said, Nicker had the nerve, right?
Starting point is 01:07:24 All these years later Uncle Dan is on face time with a nigga He turned around and he goes, Yo, Joe, he's looking for you. He turned it as far as you. He found you.
Starting point is 01:07:36 On face time, he said, Come out here. I see, yo, my man, fuck out of here. Fuck out of here, dick. Like, this ain't that.
Starting point is 01:07:44 That ain't. This, I'm not going. I don't mean your money like that. I tell you no lot. Every time a nigga, you know Fred French. Mm-hmm. Frenchie just hit me. We got 300,000 for you after.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I said, how far is it from Ricino? Yeah, and I ain't for kids. Is it close? He's like, because Africa big. I'm going to tell you one person because I keep forgetting. A-Con. You tried it with A-Con. Senegal came in there.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Tried it with A-Con. The shit he did. What? Got A-Cone. out of the niggas said that Senegal Army came in there on the fucking war planes and got fucking acorn
Starting point is 01:08:23 out of there. He's kidnapped DMX. I know Naz's team said Kat last time I said it. Kidnap Naz's manager. Hey, yo, hold on. Let me, let me, I'm here now. Your friend. Was it Ann? Kidnap one of his men's trick.
Starting point is 01:08:39 He kidnapped. I don't know which one, but it was all over the news. That was with me. Also, he, kidnapped you. You was part of the shit. Giles had got out of there early. It was with me. Well, they said cat. You know, bad Joe, they put me in the month. How you uncappedic? I said that
Starting point is 01:08:55 story. How you resell it? How you resell it? They got kidnapped, too. Uncatted. So I said that in one of those episodes and they said, yo, Cap, Joe, that didn't really. I said, all, cool. Let me stay and son of you. They couldn't play
Starting point is 01:09:09 that shit where they can. Senegal came up in there. They sent a coproo's Navy SEALs up in there. They said that nick acorn ditty bopped out that shit like you see it on saying do you want to see what the hip hop do though sometimes the bullshit gets you out of the shit you see listen how you're supposed to be regular with that what you're supposed to do right there me i'm just saying i'm not yeah hey oh oh how the pressure was through the roof the monitor
Starting point is 01:09:37 is doing on i'm not saying don't go get your bread but if the nigger named ricka cano or casa bronca talk to your team first No, no, just You already told me. There's some people, there's some people, I'm going to be honest. They should have said it. The positive thing is
Starting point is 01:09:55 I made the most money I ever made in my life for that stress. I'm not going to lie to you. If you're into money, just take an extra bag of clothes and just know you're staying two to three weeks.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Don't try to get home, but it's going to, it's going to be a far. It's not when you think you. Don't try to Tupac Burd. about the rim shit I did. He didn't flinch. Now, let me tell you this.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Let me tell you this. Just to put it in perspective. Equatorial Guinea, South Africa, Nigeria, Garbon, so many beautiful places. Morocco and Africa,
Starting point is 01:10:34 there's places that you go and it's so fucking beautiful. It's so fucking Cape Birdia. It's so many places that you go. Angola, too. I love the people of Angola. We just got, we had a fucking chom.
Starting point is 01:10:47 By the way, if you Google this guy, he was the leader of when they had the war, he was the leader of one of those civil. This man who was fighting the army. He killed like 10,000 niggas. Look, and I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Where it is, the hyena still got the film. Put me on the hallucination. Fuck on me on the monster. Let me tell you something. Yo, let me tell you something. I'm in Africa. By the way, I'm in Africa.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I love it. And I don't understand Africa. I've been to every section of Africa, Somalia, Kenba, Kenya, Zimbabwe. Let me tell you, though. The fucking airplane is a great airplane, but the airplane's like a regular bus or a cat. The shit stop.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And every phone, oh, fat. It's time. Hold on up. I was about to tell them something. I won't say who. Yes. Listen. The airplanes stop every half an hour like you're going somewhere.
Starting point is 01:11:48 You stop like a bus. Hey, yo, kids. Hey, kids. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, crack. Crack, hold on. Oh, fuck y'all for me, dude. Hey, crap, hold on. I've been there.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Hey, crap. I leave this shit. Now you see this. Hey, yo, wait, let me finish. Hey, yo, kiss, look, usually it's just you and him. Let me say it. And some cool guy, I'm here to vouch. nigger the shit
Starting point is 01:12:15 stop like a transit Like a subway Okay One time We hear Hold on One time it stops Hold up
Starting point is 01:12:24 One time it stopped Hey I'm so glad And I board on I'm so glad My hallucination What time I stop What happened I board on
Starting point is 01:12:37 In the middle of the Nowhere in Africa And there's game With a very famous chick on the plane in the middle of Africa while the plane is stopping. I'm like, yo, game, what's up? Yeah, I heard you turning yourself into jail next week.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Yo, what's up, crack? We talked on the air bus. Airbus. Airbus. That shit was stopping like this. I said, all right, game. He was like, no, just be strong. The nigga was telling, hey, yo, crack.
Starting point is 01:13:03 You know crack stories long winning, bro. All right here, I see. The biggest. The motherfucker stop. The nigga tell me, yo, we're about to weed. We're going, I'm going to tell you the rest of when we take back off. That's how many times it happened, bro. And that's why when I read the book of Jose,
Starting point is 01:13:19 I was like, ah, nigga, I don't need the book. It's just coffee table shit now because I know the stories, nigga. We talk forever. I love you, brother. Yo, listen, this is the Joe and Jay to show the biggest in the land where we give everybody an opportunity to speak their true opinion.
Starting point is 01:13:36 This is the game. Cont is on, but hold up. Let me tell you, so. Yo, get off the way for a second. Let me tell you something. You don't know me. You think you know. I'm more conscious and more revolutionary
Starting point is 01:13:52 than you ever thought in your life. Okay, I'm from a place they call God'sville where they used to sit out there and build all time. You went to Latino. The black Latinos used to play the Congoes from Africa. I'm from a place. Any other podcasts like this would be terrified to get your views
Starting point is 01:14:13 an opinion in the middle of the show. Not here, nigga. We ain't duck the face. We're open all. We don't duck the face. Shout out to our brother D1. God, there's no.
Starting point is 01:14:22 There's some noise. He's D1. I tell you all. Because I always like to hear my brothers with a game fact. You know, Compton was called Comptonville. Comptonville. Before Comptonville was called Gibsonville.
Starting point is 01:14:36 So if y'all ever hear me say, Gibsonville, you know I'm talking about Connell. I don't want to do that. Let me just get one more question because we got to go. But what was this shit you're trying to say about Kendrick Lamar? You're the only rapper from Compton from this, this, that. You're the new flex. You're the new flex.
Starting point is 01:14:52 I'm the new flex. No, no, all bullshit aside. But what is it? Are you trying to bait them to do a while? This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. If you watch Kobe Bryant, right, talk about Michael Jordan. And I'm just, I'm just giving you an knowledge.
Starting point is 01:15:08 I've seen it. Kobe is never going to say that Michael Jordan better than him. He's going to say that. he better than me, but in the Kobe way. But no man with children and a woman at home is going to say another man is bettering you at shit. See, I'm pretty short. Jesus wasn't walking around like,
Starting point is 01:15:27 nah, he's a better carpenter than me. This guy. No. So I'm saying, I got the utmost love for Kendron. He just broke Jay-Z Grammy record. That is, for us, that's cool shit. Legendaries. That's good for hip.
Starting point is 01:15:43 That's Hove, right? And in my studio, bro, in my recording booth, I got the book of Hove. I also have your book of Hove. Hey, come on, niggins. What came first? A chicken and egg. You get to that later.
Starting point is 01:15:57 What I'm saying is, I'm from Compton. I drove by Kendrick when I got on. Around the time that kids picked me up and I came back to L.A.X. Kendrit seen me in Compton like I seen niggas before, me driving through the hood with the
Starting point is 01:16:15 boom and sister with the gold chains. He has a song called Black Boy Fly. If you never heard it, you should go listen to him. So he can tell you in his own words, who he saw. So it wasn't motherfuckers out here that spin it how they want. Bold print or whatever, you know, we're in the
Starting point is 01:16:31 clip era. They'll clip it and make it spinning how he want. I've got respect for Kendrick and everything he's doing, right? The reason there's any type of little riff between me a dot or top or if there is if you thought there were. It's because
Starting point is 01:16:47 Drake is my friend. Right? Oh yeah he's my friend. And again I am put in the fucking There's a fork in the row where I got to choose Yeah. Between my friend. But let me tell you something. Let him this whole time. Let him finish!
Starting point is 01:17:03 All right. So look, I'm going to tell you like this. I can call Can we all agree to Drake is pretty fucking huge? He's my friend. I got him on speed. down. If I call him and tell him that Callie, Justice of Harlem want to come to the concert, he says, send him at
Starting point is 01:17:19 6. I'm going to be right there to receive them. You know I love them like I love you. We're going to put them where they need to be. Your kids are going to see everything that they want to see. Do they need over your gear? Let me get that plug. So I'm saying I can't. So
Starting point is 01:17:37 I'm saying, if they go to war then I've got to sit back like a fan of two people, and I just got to watch it like everybody else. That's your man. I do understand that, but let me tell you, this whole time we've been recording, the hyaena shit still ain't touched the floor. Nah. This is Joe and Jay. This shit is Robotson.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Make sure. Hey, man. Hey, hey, yo. You see? Hold on. This is the only episode that's to be continued, because we got so much shit to talk about. Yeah. Hey, yo.
Starting point is 01:18:08 This is the two. This is the two. This is the only episode. So we're kissing. We're kissed to let you take his shot. You feel me? It's crazy. This niggins drinking some shit.
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