Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Bonnie Godiva breaksdown battle rap politics, Wild 'N Out problems, Doechii being on Kendrick's level, and top 5 battle rappers

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

Battle rap star Bonnie Godiva joins The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for an unfiltered conversation on the current state of battle rap, viral disrespect in battles, and why the culture isn’t as massive as it once was. Bonnie breaks down her top male and female battle rappers, the biggest checks during the Caffeine era, battling men, and the wildest lines that helped make her one of the highest viewed female battle rappers ever. The crew also gets into her time on Wild ‘N Out with Nick Cannon, industry politics, female rap today, women being pressured into getting BBLs, the Drake vs. Kendrick battle, and whether artists like Doechii can reach Kendrick-level success. Yayo and Murda keep the jokes flying while Bonnie gives real insight into battle rap, fame, and surviving the entertainment industry.Go to https://baskandlatherco.com and use code REALREPORT for 20% offSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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DNA. It's the Bonnie Goddivism. Yeah, yeah. That's right, Bonnie. Talk your shit. He didn't get stopped. Brian. Shut the fuck.

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All right. That's my video. I was a video. I would get a little. I was talking. Yeah, yeah, this the Boy Uncle Murder, aka Led Dead Liddy, and this is The Real Report show. And yeah, it's the talk of New York, Tony, a. Oh, Titch, J-J-J-U-G, you net.

And right now you're on The Real Report. We're one of Battle Raps, number one legend, female rappers. Tell them who you is, man. Yonka's in the building. It's the realist in the industry on the real report. Oh, yeah. Make some noise for Yonkers. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Bonnie Goddiver in the building. Oh. About battle rap. We're going to talk about what's going on with battle rap.

How do you feel about the state of battle rap? Because I know we was talking back then. We was talking about like, for me, I felt like with the Lodilux battles and, you know, the murder mooks, numbers started going expensive. They went from like 10,000 to 50,000. Yeah. And then you stopped seeing it on YouTube. And then shout to Debo, Queen of the Ring.

We spoke about that. Queen of the Ring disappeared. That was one of my favorite shows where it was just females battling. And sometimes y'all battle guys. Right. So let's talk about it. Tell me. It's a lot of greed that was happening.

So the more money definitely ended up for a lot of people. The caffeine era, which was great for some, was detrimental for all. And a lot of people didn't see it because when these big companies come around with the big checks. And then they're gone. It's like, all right, well, what do we do next? And that's where kind of battle at was when caffeine left. But we always had our own. We had YouTube going.

We had this clicking. We had that clicking. And then when all these apps and platforms started coming out as we get longer, you know, later into the years, that's when you started to see the split. Where everybody started going away from the blueprint. The blueprint is YouTube. I'm a YouTube star. I'm a YouTube baby. That's what gave me my name.

Not this, this and that app. So that's where a lot of it got lost in translation when we tried to figure out what was next off of YouTube. And YouTube has always been our main source. That's how I feel. That's why it's where is that right now. Yeah, that's how I feel because I feel like when y'all was on YouTube, just the early battle era was crazy. Like, give me, like, I know you can give me your top five battles

and murder can give me his top five battles. Because I know when was the one when Lux had the casky. He had the feudal. Yeah, Lux and Calico. That was the Hurst. Yeah, that was Lundy. What year was that? Damn.

I want to say this is probably like 20s. What year was that? And it was Lux and Calico. 15 maybe, 2014. And he had a lot. whole funeral shit, he had the fucking choir. Yeah. And then Jay-Z got online and tweeted, you're going to get this word.

Yeah. That was 2012. God damn. That was my first year of battling. That's when I feel like. That was my first year of battling. That's for some reason to me, to me, that was the year. Like that battle right there, I mean like the theatrics,

motherfucker had a hearse. He had the flowers. It was just like, that was looks like that was classic battling. I don't know if the price went. up at that point or after that point, but the price went up. We're moving them wanting 50,000 a battle. The price went up with the caffeine era. A lot of people would come around like, hey, let's take y'all for YouTube and put you here,

and we're going to give you this much money. And it was cool for that specific group of people, but for the general. So you're saying group of people. So you're saying smack in them is going to get that check. I'm talking about all the caffeine battleists. Us YouTube battlers talk shit to the caffeine battleers all the time. So there's a caffeine error. There's a YouTube error.

What's the caffeine? Caffeine was an app that picked up battle app. And that's why it got off of YouTube. They gave the big contractor smack and everything got pushed from YouTube to caffeine. That's a whole different platform. And then they went bankrupt. And now everybody's like, where'd the money go?

But we already had the money. We were already hustling the money off of YouTube. That's how we were meeting companies. We can go to the YouTube studio. We could walk in there and shoot content with stars and all that other shit because we were on YouTube. So once that left now, caffeine comes with a $50,000 check. Yeah.

But we're not, that's not the normal. You know what I'm saying? And that's what kind of fucked it up. That is where it got bigger. And then people expected just that. And they forgot the hustle of everything that we was doing. Yeah. Because it was the point where battle rap was like the biggest, one of the biggest things

in the game. Yeah. You know, like that battle that we talk about. Like when he had the hearse and the flowers and all that shit. And I remember that or moot battling, you know, and I just remember prices going up. Yeah. When dudes started saying numbers like, you know, I want 50,000. You know what I'm saying?

The battle. And, you know, if a dude get 10,000. What do you think is a good price point? I would say 1015,000. 10.15 is perfect for me. For anybody, I think, though, to stand on. It depends on your number. You can't knock, you know, if a motherfucker

want their number 30, 40,000, and they feel like they bring in a certain amount of viewers and people with tune them because of them. It depends on who the person, a lot of people feel like that don't do it. You talk about the low deluxe and the murder movies. People that were really putting on for this stuff coming. If they want their bread, you got to get them their bread.

Oh, no, for sure. But what I'm saying is it didn't other people that's on to come up. Because you had, DNA was going hard. And what's my man that be with DNA? I know everybody's name. I'm just tripping right.

Conceded. Kishan. Kishan. Kishan. There was a point where like Mook and Luck stop and DNA. And Kishan took over. Yeah. And hollow.

And there was other dudes coming, suits. They was like coming after that. But it's just like the numbers went up. When the numbers went up, it seemed like it was less battles. That's all I'm saying. Yeah.

Now, one thing about battle rap I wanted to know, though, right? like asking you is perfect that should be getting real intense and personal and then y'all talk about like you know the way y'all talk about each other y'all go crazy how do you separate that so like how do you just stand on stage and take that disrespect in your face like that it's a it's gonna sound funny but it's a stress reliever for people like me like I don't I don't I can't go home and argue with my man like that or yell and scre you I can't argue with my co-workers or my friends but I can come in here and release all that stress of wanting to say whatever I want to say to a person in this ring. So that's how it works for me.

As long as you don't touch me, you can say what the fuck you want. And depending on that, because if somebody was murdered in my family and you just bring it up, like we saw it with official and coffee. When official punched coffee off the stage, I don't know if y'all both seen this. But it was viral. They were battling. She said, after your baby father's not really dead on this side, she said, well, your mother just died. I'm going to send you to meet her or something like that. And she stole.

I just punched her off the stage. So it's like if something happens recently, like I don't condone talking about somebody that just passed away or your child. I don't bring up people's child. Somebody was to do something like that to you, go off a kid. Maybe it depends.

If you have a loss of love when they bring that shit up in a battle like that. Yeah, it can happen. Sometimes when it pop off, I like when people want battle rappers don't pop off. Like, I'm under your skin. I got you so mad. That's why I think battle rappers

are definitely the best performers. You know, sometimes, you know, I think it's harder for y'all. like y'all like people keep battle rap in the box where they think that they can't make records or can't do what, you know, what me or murder do or other rappers do because we just know y'all for disrespecting

motherfuckers on stage. But one thing you gotta give battle rappers are their best performance. So when you get under a nigger's skin, bro, like, and you laugh and that person is just heated and you're just killing them and you're just drinking your water and you're just watching. I think when you lose control, it's like you almost lost the battle for me.

It's almost like a reverse kink for me. You know how people would be like, you have a humiliation kink. You just want to be humiliated. My kink is humiliating people. Like, it makes me feel better because I'm so nice of a person. I don't do that nowhere else. So if I come here and I can really roast the shit out of somebody and I'm not an aggressive rapper, so I'm not going to be, oh, I'm going to slap the shit out you, bitch.

No, it's look at your fucking dirty-ass shoes and your shirt. But like, that's how I rap. Like, I want people to laugh at you. I want you to be embarrassed. I want you to feel this when I'm rapping. She brought some dudes private parts in one battle, bro. I told you. I was like, yo, it gets crazy.

That's crazy He gets crazy Y'all get crazy fucking kids Wash your pussy But that's what I'm saying I still have moral codes I don't talk about people

Kids I don't know I thought you did no I think that's part of the battle rat I could I'm not saying you can't I'm not saying you can't

That's why people Be getting punched in the face That's what I'm saying And this is why We're gonna bring battle rappers On our show Because we got to make battle rap great again

Because I remember Motherfuckers Pulling out paperwork Talk about niggas Kids Talk about niggas getting raw Talk about rap is getting pissed to whip. That's what made me watch batter at.

Took about who's fucking who. Because I know you said, you know, you fucked with it. I ain't gonna say his name. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, that was the greatest time of better. Like, it gotta come back to YouTube or something. That's what I feel.

We are still on YouTube. It's just the general places that y'all used to seeing it is not there no more. The main place was Smet. Smack YouTube was the main place for everybody to go. Smack, you gotta do better. So, Matt, you know, we're gonna get smack up here too. Shout to Queens, but smack, you gotta do better. I don't know what's going on.

He got his deal and, you know, now the deal's done on. So it's like, we could go back to. Go back to YouTube, go back. And there's a lot of, and don't get me wrong. There's a lot of good battles. You got that bag. Right? I am mad at that.

There's a lot of good battles. It's just like she said, the marketing is there. It's not there because smack on that YouTube. Now think about how big. Look, that's what I'm saying. Queen of Ring, Dibo. I'm mad of him because that was one of my favorite shit. You know what I'm saying?

But Ed, when you think about this, right? Battle rap is worldwide. I've seen battles in London. Yes. Who just had a battle rap in London a couple of months ago? I battled London every year. See what I'm saying? It's a worldwide thing.

I battled in Australia. They took us there for a week. Me and Had Ice. You know what I'd be one to know too, Bonnie? How do they be picking the winner with this shit sometimes, man? The crowd, motherfucker? It depends. It'd be different, though.

It don't just be the crowd, correct? It used to be the crowd just mainly. The price was the good battles. Right. Then they started doing the judging, because people had things, money on the line or whatever, whatever. So we started doing the judging things, the tournaments. A good battle is when the crowd, all the classic smack battles, the crowd, the motherfucker say a line, and it's just over.

You know what's over, the crowd is just this. All right, so, but it wasn't like a, uh, at the end, like, yo, make the loudest noise for this one or you make the loudest noise for this one? Nah. You know when the niggas finished. I see that more on like tournaments, like what I'm saying, where it's like, Like, all right, there has to be a winner. But how battle rap is now, and we've seen that with Daylight.

Daylight was the first one to say, like, don't focus on winning, focus on the entertainment aspect. That's how you become viral. He could have, he could have just rapped and beat everybody, but he never would have been the daylight he is now. Yeah, Daylight started doing like memes in his rap, like, dress up like a white guy. You know what I'm saying? Just like spawned and shit on stage.

Yeah, he just did it. Not everything was great. He took a shit on stage? Yes, he did. Oh, man. At the Florida House. That was Lordhouse. That was when Joe Budden's battle hollow, he battled somebody in a spawn outfit and took

a shit on stage. I don't know if it was real shit. I don't know. I didn't keep looking. So who knows? Maybe he had a costume. Daylight was kind of crazy, but he did have balls. I came front.

But he would have never got to the height. That's what I'm saying, because it's not about winning and losing. It's about entertaining more than that. It became that way after a while. Yeah, pure entertainment. Right. Like that's what battle. You ever felt like you lost the battle?

Yeah. I got like 80 battles. It's impossible. Okay, got you. Got you. I got like 80 battles. I'm the highest viewed female, though I'm talking no different. They like to say, they like to say, oh, that shit.

That's right. Boney talk your shit. This don't count and that don't count. Or every view I did count. Even Vlad TV because these bitches don't get there. So every view I did count. And I'm the highest viewed female battle rapper in the industry. I don't know that.

Because I have my favorites, Sheena Ashley, you, jazzed the rapper. I like 40. He wasn't 40 from Connecticut? It's Boston. Boston. I liked her. She was battled. What's the other one from the Bronx?

The short one. I think she had a baby bus. Farah. Yeah. A farah funeral. The list goes on and on. There's a lot of dope female battle. Girls are he talking about?

Yeah. Me and 40 have a million views. Then we teamed up and we battled DNA and Kishine, which I'm sure you're probably seen the two. Y'all watched the two girls in there. Yeah, definitely. That was me and 40. So every time me and 40 do something, it's millions of views.

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Who's your top five male battle rappers? Shit. I thought she's going to say, he threw me off. And female. We went female. I know you're going to include yourself, but. I really don't include myself when I do my top five. All right.

So let's go top five male. and then top five female for you. Top five male. Damn. J.C. I'm not doing no order. And this is my personal, so fuck y'all if y'all don't agree. Oh, shit.

Talk your shit, Bonnie. All time, right? Yeah. J.C., B-Magic, Rumnitty. Damn, this is hard. I was fucking going to B-Magic too. B-Magic was one of the first punchline niggins. He carried niggas.

He was the first. from Niddy. Oh, so you said beat magic was the first punchline nigga? Yeah. So he said. He was carrying it again. JC.

Now, why would you say JC? Writing. His writing is impeccable and he's still doing it. He's still battles and I'd be like, how the fuck did he come up with that shit? Dang. I had some money my head. I'm going to say surf and daylight. That's five.

But females excluding myself. I say Gadis. She's one of the first females I've seen doing intergender when nobody was doing them. I'm talking about back grind time days. It wasn't even too many females around and she was doing it. So I respect that and she was fire. 40 bars, legacy is very hard to leave her out of the top five. Whatever her career is now doesn't matter to what it was at the height of her career.

Who else I got? Jazz. Just for general industry purposes, she's like a good, go-to-face. I'm a little drama full so people like drama. Tend to go to, you know, clean cutaway people that don't fight and shit. Right. What's like I? I named three. E. Hart,

first writer that made me stop. First writer that made me stop female. Like, what she said? Hold on a while. That was crazy. Aggressive as a month. That's why I miss Queen of the Ling, man. You bring back memories for me. I used to watch touching fake me. The heart was top of the food chain and still is to me.

One more. I'm forgetting. somebody and I made this whole list. Shit. Who are you missing? You're not going to throw Shane and Ashley in there? That's why. You want to put Sheena Ashley on there? No.

Nah, you bugging. Nah, I ain't my cup of tea. Shana Ashley? That's not a cup of tea, niggas. That's not my cup of tea, I ain't what I'm like. You see the names I'll be picking? A lot of names I be picking, people don't generally pick. People don't be like, yo, be magic my top.

You know what I'm saying? You have to really like. You have to really like. You know what I'm saying? My top five, I got to throw loaded Lux. Murder Mook. I got a Queens DNA. Oh, Seussurf.

And what's my man, the Gunbar King? Rock. Damn, I forgot Tay Rock. See? I fucked that. T-Rock is one of my favorites. T-Roc is one of my favorites. All of them is pretty dope.

There's so many but that. And then the females, I'm going to go, I got to throw you on there. Shane Ashley. I don't know. How you sleep on Shane Ashley? That's not my cup of tea, bro. Fuck with Shane and Matt.

Cup of tea, right? She didn't actually was killing bitches. She ain't killed me. She didn't kill me. You got me? You battle for Bonnie? I mean shit to me, no. Certain bitches, they know who to be laid.

We're setting that up, man. She knows. She don't like you. She know who to play. They know who to play. Bonnie, jazz. Because jazz, yeah, I'll go by as much battles y'all was going to, the ones that do the most battles. Hustle.

That's what I forgot about was. And I don't know. There's so much more. It's E. It's a lot of good. A good- Oh, a fish you, oh, fish you was, you know what a fish, you too. You remember Couture? You remember Cotour too.

You gotta, you gotta have a tap 10. You can't do just a top five. Tori-dough, it's a lot of good girls. But Queen of the Ring, that's why I said, shout to Debo, man. They fucked that shit up because I feel like when that was on YouTube, that was like my go-to. Like, imagine if that would have kept going because I tell Merck all the time, like him and my man, like, they stay on ESPN.

I love ESPN, but that's when you call them, you know how you hear some light TV. AMSPN, sport news. You know where it is. If you call me, you hit, it's going to be YouTube. So for me, if battle rap was still on YouTube, Queen in the Ring and all that, that shit was like, that was like the go-to. That was like, yo, fuck that. You ain't nothing on line.

I'm gonna catch me a nice battle rap. Somebody getting disrespected. And that was the height for the YouTube babies. That's when I met people like, y'all. I went to concerts with Ghost Face. And he's like, yo, I'm saying? People invited us out because we were at the top of, you know, I'm saying? of the YouTube streets.

And then you remember the beginning of smack, Man, Hoffa knocked out the little nigger. Remember that shit, nigger said something. That little knocked them out. She was crazy. So I said, you remember all the fights in Queen of the Rings? The females fight ten times more than the end. That was the best shit.

Ten times more. And look, the atmosphere for battle rap was so gangster. Because it's like you got a hundred niggas on stage. You got a hundred niggas. You're in New York. You got the relent. You are in Philly. Relentless crowd.

York, relentless crowd. London, relentless crowd, Chicago. I feel like for artists, a rap artist, it's less pressure because you know my record already. You know murder's going to go up there and do fucking some shit with future or do some rap up or whatever, or get the trap, whatever it is. You know, I'm going to do whatever I'm going to do with you. It's less pressure. But for battle rap, because fucking hoars, choking is the worst thing you could do on battle

right. It is. It is. It is. I know that's a pause. Because you know he got a pause. We're going to get a pause meal. I already know.

I already know. I already know. You're cooking the bacon. Pause. You're crossing the street. Pause. Yo. But choking on stage, that's a pause.

Yeah. But. How was it for you battling against the dudes? Like the own peas and all these guys. I like it. I feel like I said. I like doing shit like that. And I like taking the advantage where people think I don't have it.

Whenever you battle on me and they always think. you're gonna lose. It's a male sport. It's male dominated. But this is not a physical sport like basketball and shit. So I can beat this nigga. I can lyrically whoop this ass, even though I can't physically. Say it along. You said, you said some crazy shit to him that went viral. Which one? To Un. He said some crazy shit to you, but you said some crazy shit to him that went viral. I don't know Ed. Oh, I was talking about his wife. And I was like, uh, she could take the come out of community. Oh my God. She, she could really take the come out community.

I bowed in this and I said, you better hope Jehovah. witness and the internet went crazy. I had a religious scheme. I said, I'm stopping the floor, knock on your door. You better hope Jehovah Witness. And they went crazy for that one too. I try to give those bars all the time. I just said some bars that have been like, people have told me it's the best bar I've heard.

I had niggas that never went to Puerto Rico with fed cases. They went from Puerto Rico. That was one of them too. Oh, shit. You gotta be a street nigger to know that. I'm fucking out of rap. A stink of that. Like, you know, average rapper ain't thinking about the metaphors, the bars.

Like, what do you think? How long it takes you to think a battle rap or prep? Like, say I say, all right, you're about to battle fucking. That girl, you just ain't like that girl. Shane Ashley. How would you prep for Shane Ashley? Like, what does it take? Because you see, you keep saying, I mean.

I want some money on the floor. We need that. We need that. We need that. We need to put that battle again. I know it's going to be a good battle. Because he keeps mentioning this girl. No.

Listen. But who you were fighting here first? All. All right. Fuck that. Okay. Okay. We're going to get jazz.

She ain't here now. D&A. It's the Bonnie Godabas show. Yeah, yeah, that's right, Bonnie. Talk your shit. Oh, Bonnie. See, it's always competition. That's right, always.

It's real disrespectful. You talk, and she's talking about, she don't talk about kids. Oh, man, they talk about everything. I don't talk about it. I don't need to do that. I like battling men, though, because I like getting that advantage.

When I do get that advantage, it's very hard for them to get it back. So when I battle O'N and I talk about his wife, or her wife or her, she fucked all the rapper. She even let Petie crack. It just make niggas laugh and they look at this nigga different. You know what I'm saying?

And now it's hard for him to get that energy back. That's what I like doing when I battle, man. But, how do you know to get that? How do you, when you're writing, how do you know? Did you win that battle against him, P? Yeah. Oh, shit. I mean, I don't even a lot.

Sometimes I make it shit up. I don't hear what fuck. I battle a nigga. I said, you got a wife named Crystal. Everyone smashed Crystal. Mazel Tov. I already had the bar. Now your wife's name is Crystal, nigga.

That's crazy. You know what your wife's name is. This is what I'm missing, man. This is what we're missing. Merck. My wife name is you be Natalie. It's Crystal the night, I got this bar. So what do you think we need to do for like marketing for battle rap right now to get it back to like, I'm not saying it went anywhere.

It's just back to, you know. Back to where it was at in the YouTube heights of there. I think it would take more people like y'all, man, giving us opportunities like Cam Ron, bringing us on revolt. I saw you with Cam. I saw you with Cam. I heard Cam did an event. How did that work? It was great.

That was the whole tournament I did was Cam Ron's tournament. So he did it. It was four rounds and it was about, um, um, um, I saw. I want to say six on each side. There was 12 of us. It was me, Shuni, and Yoshi were the only three females. Everybody else was guys. And we battled every week.

We didn't know who our opponent was, and I like that. Because a lot of people tend to do a lot of bullshit when you have time. That's when the writing together happens. That's when the, this, this, and that happens. If you only have three days, you don't have time for that. You either have the talent or you don't, or you're going to drown. You're going to sink or swim. Sink or swim.

So that's what it was with, like, with Cameron. We didn't know who was going to battle it. We didn't know. We just had to get it together in three days. So that pushed something extra out of me that I wouldn't have had come out if I had three months. Now I'm just taking my time. I'm being lazy and shit. Slowly writing it as opposed to me trying to take this nigga head off at 25K.

It matters right now. So that's what it takes. It takes more of that. Like more of y'all strut and some of the lights y'all have because we are like y'all favorite pastime. That's how we got where we got being y'all favorite pastime. So it takes y'all pushing us in that spot. Like that. How do you think more battle rappers can transition to making records like Sue Serf did something

with Leaf Ward? Me and Murder was talking about. We love that record, right? I heard it. He's spitting balls. I love it. And you see Eminem was a big battle rapper. He started off and he transitioned to make, you know, hit records for the world.

What do you think like battle rappers have to do male and female to get over the heat to get out the box of saying, you know, we can make records too, you know? If you want to be in a superstar lane and not the writer lane, it's very easy for us to be in a writer lane. a lot of shit. We wrote in movies. We wrote for celebrities when they had that little show where they was battling each other with Methaman. A lot of battle rappers wrote the rounds for the celebrities. Like we've been in, right in movies. If they have a battle or some other shit, they've had us around and they book us for that. But if you want to be in the spotlight,

you have to learn how to play the game. You got to just, right now, only way you get famous is by getting all the eyes on you. You see a nigga, the nigga. I don't even know his name. I just seen him yesterday. He had a pink dress on on Rolling Loud. And now he's all over. Oh, yeah, I just seen that. Hey, who was that? I didn't even know. I just seen that. I had his girlfriend.

He said he gets 900 million views a month. I'm like, well, I've never heard this, nigga. But now we know. But he's popping. Now we know him. You see what I'm saying? He's getting the bag, though. Yeah, he wore a dress on the show.

It went viral. I ain't going to lie. I wouldn't. Yeah, but I never heard of a lot. See what I'm saying? So, yeah, right. The baby with a diaper on. You know what I'm saying?

That got him viral. The baby wearing the diaper how he used to do it. So that's what it takes is knowing how to do that. at what we do. But you got to tell you, you got to figure out the way to make everybody put them eyes on you. You got to figure it out. That's why I work so hard. See?

And it was his girlfriend. It was his girlfriend. It was his girl's dress? Yeah, she was with him. She was with him and he was doing it. He does how many views, you said? He do 900 million views a month, he said, right? But what he's doing?

He rap? He do a bunch of skates where he'd be like, send this to somebody. It would be like us sitting here. He'd be like, send this to somebody who needs their own show. Tag them in the comments. And then everybody will go. You know what I'm saying? He's doing a bunch of different things

that's generating all these views. But then he'll wear a dress on the stage so everybody can pay attention and see what he's doing. Well, fucking shout to him. He's going to get his stuff. That's what it takes. I think I need to wear a dress to blow up. Come on, Paul.

You don't need to be. I'm only joking, man. See, don't get him started. We was doing good. We was doing so good. Come on. Couple of rappers were dresses, man. Couple of rappers wore dresses, man.

I can see you hit, stop playing. It's a joke, man. It's a fucking joke. Don't get him tired. Couple of rappers wore dresses. They definitely did. And you still listen to their music.

Yeah, you definitely did. Tyler Perry wore a dress. We still watch his movies. It's funny. Big Mama's house. Martin, we still watch it. Young Thug was in the dress. We know that.

You still listen to his music. Yeah, I think that's what it's for. It's just to put the eyes on me. He's just doing anything. I don't agree with doing anything, but I feel you should have a balance. You got to have a balance. If you want to be in that spotlight,

then you have to figure out the balance. You was in a spotlight for a minute on Wild and out with Nick Cannon and all that. What's going on? What's going on? happened with that. What's going on with that? I won in front of everybody. It was a competition called Who Wants to Wiling Out? It was the only competition they ever did like that. And I remember it so vividly because I was asking Charlie

to put me on the show. I'm like, oh, can you just like talk to somebody, give me an audition? He's like, don't worry. It's coming up. Just look out. And I like maybe a week later, I seen the email that said, hey, if you want to be on Wiling Out, you want to be a cast member sending your audition tape. Right. I didn't go through anybody else. I didn't try that sneak on. I said, you know what? I'm going to send my audition tape. I audition taped. And I battled. And I battled everybody on the show, like in my audition tape. I just, everybody I could think of that was on the show.

I was just there battling them on the thing. And I got on there. I beat 999 other people. No advantages. No. They didn't know who I was. I wasn't in there like I'm Bonnie Godav. I was a regular person.

And I beat 99 other people to be on this show for three seasons. I won. I started to realize as this season was going on that I was supposed to be on that I I wasn't really getting the notifications that I need to get to be there for the shows. I'm missing shows at this point. And I'm battling. I'm battling as well. So it's the point where like, okay, I'm not going to take the battle if I know that we're shooting.

So I need you to tell me that we're shooting so I don't take the battle. And I'm not double booked. And I kept having a, nobody's telling me so now I got a battle and I can't do the show. And it was having repeatedly repeatedly. Yeah, because you're missing money because you got battle set up where you can make thousands of dollars. And they're bullshit and playing around. Right. Am I shooting or not to there?

You got to let me know. Right. So if I didn't hear nothing, I'm battling. Yeah, fuck that. I got a contract I signed and I can't get out of that. So that's what was happening. And I ended up, there was a lady that was working on staff. And she was, I guess, quote unquote, in charge of letting people know the schedule.

So I'm like, I started complaining a little like, hey, I'm not being told. I'm not getting the opportunities I'm supposed to be getting. She's like, oh, I'm let you know. And I think I sent another email. I'm like, it wasn't mean. It was just like, it's assertive. Like, hey, I need to know so I can set my schedule. She's like, oh, well, you need to wait.

And I'm the only one that's helping you. and da-da-da-X-Y-Z. She started to, like, go off. Some random white lady, just on the staff. And I didn't really, I never came into that situation. Like I said, like I'm Bonnie Godiva. Here's my manager. Here's my this.

My manager at the time happened to know Nick Cannon's manager. Like, she was in that circle. I just never brought her in because I already had it. I don't need to have people help me if I already got it myself. So I called her. I'm like, hey, this lady's kind of weird. I want to call her, but I need you on the phone. So she was on the phone and she was recording the conversation

just because we never know what the fuck's going to happen. So I'm like, hey, I just want to call you because it seemed like the email was kind of weird. Like, we just want to know what the time the shows are that I have. And she started cursing me out, call me all type of ghetto bitches and all type of shit on the phone and hung up on me. Dang. So mind you, luckily, my very well-resourced manager at the time was on the phone to hear it because it could have been he said, she said, and she would have just said I was fucking lying. But she couldn't because my manager had the recording and she also is somebody. So now I'm starting to use my little influence.

Like, all right, now we're gonna have to do something. I need you to actually hit his manager up and see what we could do because that was weird as fuck. I don't even know what that came from. And it felt very racist in nature because I don't even know this white lady. They had to be quality of ghetto and shit. You have my fucking line. I've never gave you ghetto.

Like for you even, you know what I'm saying? So that happened. Next thing I know. You ghetto bitch. Call HR. They sent me an email. Call HR department. You see what I'm saying?

Can't do that shit. Do that shit. There's certain things you can't do in business. I agree with you. So I have my manager call. They called me into, I was supposed to go to the show the next day. Somebody else reached out to me with the schedule. Not the same lady.

It's a different person now. And from then on, it was a different person. It wasn't her. I don't know if she got fired or moved or what. But they were like, hey, we want you to come in a little early. We just need to talk to you. I went in there. And I knew Nick Cannon knew what was happening.

And I really felt like because he's so pro-black, I expected him to do some. I think that was my biggest disappointment with the shit. Because you're so pro-black. I expected you to, like, at least care a little bit, like, hey, that's happening on my show. But did you know? But did he know? He knew. But hold on.

But he wasn't. You know why you can't blame Nick Cannon? Because sometimes, like, and this is what somebody once told me in business. You could be the best person for the show. You could be, but if they feel like you're a problem, they will go with the secondary person. That's how a lot of corporations is. So if this, look, if this person had power and there was a misunderstanding. Mm-hmm.

and even she did call you a ghetto bitch, which is wrong, right? She's going to flip it and bounce it, and they're going to believe her over you no matter what. And that would have happened with the power. And she said that's cool, but if it's being that she's a sister and there was this white lady, she felt like Nick should have been more. Because my manager put him on to the situation.

That's what I'm saying. I had the resources. She's going to have. You had the taping. You had the taping and I'll be a disrespectful. Listening to it. You know what I'm saying? It's not like it was a he says.

No, I'm not saying you're not saying. the room, but what I'm saying is the person with power is going to be favored no matter fucking what. Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. She's going to flip it like she was cursing at me. The real power come with Nick Cannon if she got to connect to him with the managers and they got the tapment.

So that's what she gets. They're going to feel like bodies replaceable, nigga. They don't know what I'm going to tell you. But they didn't replace me. Here's what they did. They sent two black employees from the law team to come shuck and drive in front of me and say, hey, you know how this is happens with them and we just have to deal with this. And just sign his paper and don't sue us.

And we'll put you on the show. Because the HR department because that's what the fuck happened when they found I had that recording. Call HR. That's what they're kidding and them dead. Yeah. So now they now and what makes me so upset about

and that's why I didn't end up going back because I could have went back. But they were like, hey, if you sign it, you can go on the show. But if you don't sign it, you can't do these episodes. Mind you, the whole world is waiting to see me on the show.

I just weren't in front of everybody. My family's at the fucking TV right now. So if I don't sign this, I can't let everybody down. It's a suit to get that bag. Like, yo, let me get that. It wasn't even on my mind to suit. It just was wild to me that it happened like that.

They was whaling out. I didn't even do it. I didn't even do anything, but be here and be talented. On top of that. I don't know. Somebody else would have been like, fuck that. On top of that. I could suit.

You put in that bulb in my head. Like, hold on, I could suit. Maybe. But on top of that, too. You did just get crazy. Did you have a sign? I did sign. I went on show.

And I just took all the fun out of it for me. Like I, yeah, you were feeling to be on wild. I didn't want to be on somebody bank account. I didn't want to go anymore from that situation. But on top of that, too, this is before. Y'all got to realize this before Nick Kennedy even had old in babies. I feel like I was there during the breeding grounds of that shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I was there when that's where his mind was. His mind didn't give a fuck. He was just thinking about having a racist altercation. He didn't even care that you was getting jericho. No, half of the time when I walked in there like, oh, oh, you're a wild and out girl. They call me somebody else's name. I'm a cast member. I'm not a while and out girl.

I'm not one of Nick Cannon's girls. I'm here to do the show. I'm a cast member. So that's how a lot of that shit went. It was just very disappointing for me overall. I thought it would be just fun. Nick Cannon, man. We got to fix this, Nick.

We got to fix this. Yeah, Nick Cannon, shall took. Come on, wow. We got to fix this, man. But she can't talk about it. I would have sued. I'm going to get the bag. How long was you on the show for?

I would have got that money. I got to do five episodes out of my. I was supposed to do 13 times three. I was supposed to do 39 episodes. But I ended up only doing five episodes. So what do you mean? You battle 900 people. Truefully, 900 people?

No, no. I can battle 900 people. I have 80 battles, I said. It felt like you bailed 900 people. Said the Wild and now thing when you said it was you were not. Oh, a thousand people total went into the competition. Oh, okay. So, I mean, I beat out 900 and 99.

Oh, shit. A thousand people went in the competition. A thousand people. I wasn't even the only battle rapper. At the end, it was me and four other people. Three of us were battle rappers and one was a comedian. So it was me, my verse. Dre Dennis and a comedian girl who passed away.

Yeah, because look how good. When you look at it, I know it was exciting for you. A thousand people, you was the one to win. Yeah, that's because she's. No favors, no handouts. No, I'm Bonnie Godiva. Just going in there and do my shoes. Come on Nick Ken.

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Yeah. Because when you look at Conceded and what's my man from St. Louis ball game? Hitman. Hitman. Shout to hitman. I'm fucking low. Because that's what I said. Battles, I need to watch more battles because I know all these guys.

I like all of them. But you see this. success being on the show. It's a pause. Oh, my God. Is that a pause? Yes. I like all of them is a fucking pause.

For a New York, nigga. Yeah, it's a pause, me. Yeah, fuck you talking. But I'll tell murder, yo, I'm about to flip my eggs in the batter. And it's like, pause. I'm trying to, like. That's a pause. I'm done.

I'm just about to flip my eggs. That might be in pause too, man. Thank you, Ed. Everything is just a pause. We just got to pause, me. It's my fault. Finally, back to what I was saying, man. Like when you, I know you was excited to be on a platform

because wild and out is, you know, it's a big platform, been around for black people, our people, all people. Yeah. This, you know, for this longer time, it's been, what, 20 years now maybe? And for you to be on there and get excited because you see Conceded and Hitman on there that built a career of being in the show, as well as a lot of other people, you know what I'm saying,

Rick Michaels, the list goes on and on and you being there, being excited and that happened to you, and you being in black, A black woman in the business is hard enough. Hell yeah. A black woman. Come on, Nick. We know how you rap for the black people, Nick.

How did you feel like, what did you feel like on the inside like there, my son? But I still feel wild because I didn't do anything. I felt like I might be too black for the industry. Like I was just supposed to shut up and let this lady talk to me however I wanted. That's how she wanted. And I would have had all the fucking episodes. Shut up and rap. That's what it felt like they were telling me.

And the back of my head, I know me. And that's why I said, that's why I told y'all in the back, I don't want to be a superstar because I see that's what come with it and I don't have the ability to shut my heart to mouth. I don't have the ability to do it. I witnessed some crazy shit like I ain't going to lie. Sometimes though in business I ain't going to front. Like I heard some crazy shit.

And you just got to say and you just like, y'all, I'm on tour. I know if I throw this nigga off the stage or throw them in the cameras or I'm going to fuck 50 shit up, you know, and I know 50 going to be like, well, why that nigger say that? But at the same time, business is business. A lot of people, I think, I'm not like that. Like, I look a lot of people just prejudge anyway. Like some of, like, your manager's, your manager, I know managers that would have been like, just bitch, shut the fuck up.

Just do what you do. Don't worry. Listen to the white lady, just shut the fuck up. Yeah. Because. If she wasn't connected, that's what she would be. Because like I said, you could be the best, like you was being everybody. But if they feel like anybody in business feels like you're a problem, white, black, Jewish,

Indian, Muslim, Christian, whatever it is, right? They're going to go to the secondary person. That's how I just think business is So I've been in meetings Like with 50 and Jimmy I've been in the school And I just shut the fuck up I'm just sitting there like a sponge Just listening

But you just trying to figure out your schedule And that's it She looked at you like Who the fuck are you? Who is she? It's one of fucking Knicks Cannon's girls Probably thought you was

One of this big problems I'm saying She said she was there I was there I was there during the breeding grounds He only had Mariah's kids When I was there That was his only kids

I was there when he was Yeah you was early Wiley Okay that girl that girl that you know what I'm saying I was there in the beginning of that shit You seen him picking him down? You know what I'm saying? That's where I was that She said she was watching him picking him out

Knocking him out knocking him down So I see him like okay that's why he don't give a fuck about What's happening with me He's over there I just spoke now I think I think he had enough kids now that he could revisit the situation I don't think it's that After this come I think Nick Cannon

gonna give her a call Watch I think I think when somebody like Nick Hen is on a level, right? Like, right? I'm just keeping the real. He's on a certain level. He got this big deal with, who is he signed with?

Who is it? Probably universal whoever. Yeah. He signed with Wiling out got this big deal. Now you got this head honcho lady that might not be number two or three. She might be number four. She was a scheduler, yeah? I was a schedule.

But in her mind, listen, and I'm not saying she's right. But in her mind is who the fuck is by a nigga diver? Right. Even though you killing it, sometimes managing be, what I'm saying is management and business would have been like, Yobani, just chill. We know this is a bitch. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would, your body, you know she's a bitch.

We know she might be a little racist. She might not be a little racist. Yeah, she don't know. Or disrespectful or whatever it is. Sometimes in business, I don't know. I think people just learn to eat that because that's just the business. You're going to everybody, you're not, I don't been on tour. How many people we hated on tour, bro?

That's a fact. Come on, bro. That's a fact. I don't heard racist shit before. little watermelon jokes or whatever and I'm like, yo, if I throw this nigger through this barrier,

I'm gonna be wrong. And then, you know what? It not only stops my money, then you got a person in the back that'll amp it up. Like, yo, man, Yale's out of control. Yeah. Murder's out of control.

They fucking beat up the guy. I didn't say watermelons. I didn't say watermelon and chicken. I said, we have watermelon. They're going to flip it in some way or bounce it. Like, that's the industry. That is.

You're talking to a nigga that MTV at a time. You, being us from red carpet, you know what I'm saying? We's beefing with Jimmy Hinchman, Al Sharpton, stomping on our CDs. Niggas. Or Al Sharpton. Yeah, you can look all that shit up, facts.

So I'm a nigga, yo, you tell you, yo. I remember Chris Lighty telling me, yo, MTV said they don't want Yale on the red carpet right now. I think 50 was like, tell them the hard in the back. And not chilled in the back. So I just was used to that shit like, yeah, 50s. Because, you know, So about 50.

50's the primary. Fuck all the mother niggas. Yeah. Security and knock you out the way. And then that's when, niggas, I don't seem to 50, 50, niggas knock you right out the way. You with 50, security, knocking you out the way. But it's the industry.

Nobody's ever been my friend. We're not going to be friends. That's why me a murder friends. Yeah. Murder beef with everybody. Wrap up. Like a battle rapper. I know they be on your ass about that rap up.

They don't be liking that. That's why, you know, look. That's why. He pauses me too. He pauses me too. For sure. I just say you said baby on my ass. You're right.

You're right. We're going to have to pause me, though. I don't know if that's a course. We're going to have that for the show. But, you know, we love the culture. But I just, we never really got along with nobody. And that's why I like battle rap because I think people like when rappers get at each other, they love blood sport until somebody gets shot or killed.

And niggas be like, kumbaya, we got to stop. Why the guy's acting like this Drake Kendra thing was so wrong? Like, niggas been losing battles forever. Like since the beginning of time. I think before Drake and Kendrick, all we was listening to was sexy red at the point. Yeah. I'm just keeping it real. Sexy Red.

How you feel about that? How do you feel about that? Because now it came to a point where like, like, I remember when Nikki first came. Like I remember the first junior office, Madison Square Garden, and there was this kid A, and he was on Nikki Minaj early. I want to, we was on Nicky mixed statements. Nicky Minas around the time. Fendi got around. What I remember, Fendi didn't want her to come around.

to the gym and the office. He didn't want her rounds at all. Shout to Nikki. He didn't want Nikki around at all. And we were trying to swipe up. My man A was just kept talking about. He worked in the office. He was like an intern.

He was like, Nicky, Nicky. And Nicky was going crazy. At that point, it was crazy because that point in hip hop it was like, it's always been a stage in hip hop with female rappers. There's only like three. Yeah. Like could be MCLite, Queen Latifah and who would you say? Let's say emcee like Queen Latifah at that time. That was big at that time.

at that time. I'm the lady of rage, right? She was popping. Yeah. Lady Rage. I would say, what's the name was more pop, no? What's my girl? Yo, yo.

What's it? Yo-yo. Don't play with my yo-yo. Remember that joke? You don't remember that joke? You don't know. It's just that funny to be. Playing with, that's a pause, Bonnie?

I don't know. Yo, get the meat out. What's the name of the song? No, we're not doing that. That's the name was song. You can't play with my yo-yo. I pause. I mean, it do sound kind of crazy.

But that was a yo-yo. Remember y'all-a-old? It was your-member yo-yo? Yes. Oh, no, all right. Oh, cool. You know, my three, I would say Queen Latif, MC Light, and definitely, I always say salt and pepper, because that was like, to me, that was like the first sex sells.

I'm not going to lie. I was like, I came to tell you how I was young as shit, and I should not have known the words of shoot, but I knew every word to that song. Well, I remember push it. Push-it was the shit, because they had the tight outfits. You know, we was by the TV watching them dance, and they had the body suits on and the big earrings, you know, you know, how how women was in the 80s. Everything just was so perfect at that time.

Bambu earrings. Yeah, bamboo earrings. So we're watching video music, watching them. And then we fast forward to the era when it was just, what you feel, it was just Foxy, Lauren Hill, and Little Kim. Little Kim. There was other rappers. Eve came along.

Missed. Shout out, Missy. That's family too. Shout out of Fridays. But now, let's keep it real. How do you feel about the game? This way more female rappers. Like, I feel like female rap is kind of taking over, like 40% to 50% of music being consumed

is females listen to female rap. Yeah. It's like y'all got your own shit going on. Like y'all listen to niggas, y'all listen to future gunners certain niggins. Yeah. But y'all got your Yolitos and Nikki and Cardi and who else. Let's just go on and on. It just seemed like this is the most you've seen female rappers on the game.

And I like that because it's not, it shouldn't always be one or two or three is way too many talented people. And music is not a gender-based sport. And I look at it as a sport. It is a sport. I look at it as like athletes. That's how I feel about it. And that's how we should be treating and respected as such to me.

But I love it that there's a lot of women in it. I just hate that, you know, it seems like the same. Like only girls who sexualize themselves can make it to a certain height. I feel like that has to change because it's so much of us now. So many of us. Yeah, hell yeah. I felt like that from the sexy red all the way to the dochi. Look at Dochi.

She's a lyricist, but she still felt like she's talked about it. I felt pressured to get a BBL still currently in this day and age. But don't she, I mean, do she's sexy, though, you want to think? Yes. But she still felt pressured to get a BBL to make it in the industry. So she got it. She has a BBL. She has a skinny BBL because she's a small girl.

But then she's like everybody loves it. It don't matter. But what I'm saying is we shouldn't have to feel like we have to do. do that to make it in the industry. Because they want to. I don't know. I think it's more of just they want to do it, man. I think females is really like want to look a certain way.

Because even females that's not trying to get into the industry, got their little BBL. I think it's just a problem. I think it's a personal preference with that. But I understand what you're saying too. Sometimes they feel like I got to look a certain way to be successful in this industry. We're told that. It's not something that we just feel.

We're told that. I've been told by a label, hey, we'll get you a BBL. I don't need to do that, though. I'm a person that can say I don't need to do that. Put them on blast. Just the real report. I don't get fuck that, man. Who the fuck said that?

Crazy. What label? What label said that shit? Label's playing for BBL? Labels is paying for BBL. This is a minute ago. This is a minute ago. But when you listen to these same females that were talking about talk, Nikki talked about it

before how she felt pressured to get it. Doshi talked about it recently how she felt pressured to get it. Lado, she felt pressured at a young. young age because everybody was talking about her body all over online and how she looks bad. But niggas are watching the video. Niggas are watching the video, I think even with like female battle rappers, like, I think when a guy initially watches like, all right, this battle rapper is attractive. I might just watch it just because she's an attractive woman.

So I mean, I feel like there's nothing wrong with that. It's not. You're going to watch Sizz in video because Sizz is attractive. Yeah. Because though she's attractive, I feel like it's more pressure. beautiful women. Yeah. As much as we don't like to admit

I always tell a woman this, our currency, one of our highest currencies is how we look, how we look, how we smell. But the physicality of it is our currency for us. Because a man's not going to be like, a lot of women feel like, hey, I have three degrees.

I have two houses. I have five cars. Why doesn't this man want me? No, sure. Because none of that shit matters. No, no, that shit matters. No, no, listen to what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, it matters.

I mean, we still, we like women with moral Because we love you. We like women with morals too. It's cool. And every woman wants to feel sexy. The whole thing is if you have morals. Uh-huh. You know, but at the same time.

That sounds good. I mean, I don't. I don't. Listen. She has degrees. If I show y'all woman A and she has degrees, she has more degrees cars and everything that she has looks. She bottom of the brow when it comes to looks, but everything else is top.

And now I show you woman B who has it more balanced. Y'all go on a woman B. You can't say that. I'm going to tell you why because sometimes you can't, you can't judge a woman just on the outside, because you could be a baddie and have a stink. I'm telling you what general men say.

You got to let me talk. You could be a baddie, right? You could look good on the inside, but you could be dark. You could look good on the outside, but you could be dark on the inside. So there don't mean nothing. So a guy would go for a girl

that got her shit together that might be a six or seven because she got potentially be better or smarter and got things going on instead of messing with a chick with no morals but look good. See, I said balance. I said balanced.

I said this one has way more accolades than looks, and I said this one has it more balanced. I didn't say she doesn't have accolades or morals. I said her it balances out more with her. She's also attractive on top of that. I feel you, but I feel like you never pressured to have a BBL, because for me, what women is confidence. I'm going to look at a woman, and if you're a confident woman, like sexy red. For instance, what I like is a artist is she's confidence. in her music.

You like my style? You like my voice? No matter what anybody says in the comments about her or any bad thing, she's confident. She don't look like she got a big BBL. She's slim, but what I'm saying is she's confident about her shit. She might get crazy on shit, but the confidence. So a woman could be thick.

She could be bigger than the other chick. But if she's coming there with the confidence, nah, I'm jacking her. She's confident. She's more confident than this girl. This girl might have a looks, but she might not have a confidence or she might not have a swag.

She's not too. Because Lilgo got confidence. She just don't be careful. And I respect that about Lizzo. Like, I know she went to her Ozympic run, but other than that, she always had confidence. I feel like, and then you got girls now taken away from the BBL.

So the pressure is going, because girls are like, I want to get rid of my BBL now. Yeah. Because to me, you can get a BBL, right? And I don't like to talk about women on the show. We just got a woman on the show. But you just can't have the ant legs with it. Yeah.

Like, if it fit you, cool. You know what I'm saying? Them girls in Hollywood, they're getting the best surgeons. If you go to the hood surgeon in the apartments, girls used to do back. Because remember, back and when they first started, shout to Kay Slay, there was girls that died getting BBLs. So for me, I'm like, damn, your girl got to take a risk for her life. Nah, that shit don't make no sense to get a BBL.

Because remember when it first started. Yeah, it was in hotel rooms with shots in the eyes. There you go. What was in the shot. There you go. She was just taking the risk. Matter of fact, we talked about that. Yeah, matter of fact, there was a girl that was like a model that got arrested way back then.

She was giving that legal shit and a girl died off that shit. That shit don't, I don't think no surgery is worth your life. I think the way God made you, he made you and just whatever. I think you touched on it, though. You said security, a lot of these women are taking it out now. It's not only because it looks bad. A lot of them are taken out because they found the security in themselves to know that I never needed that shit. People like Black China who went in years later took out all her fillers and all that shit that she put in her body that she never needed.

So it is it is a pressure there because you're in the industry. So when the label told you to get a BBL, what made you second guess it? He was like, fuck it? I'm not. First of all, I'm scared of needles. So then you never fuck with the label? I'm scared of needles. So put them on the bus.

What label? I can't. I can't. I can't do that. Why the fucking? You scared to them? No, literally the level. I'm scared of needles.

We don't want to get hit. I'm scared of needles. You don't want to get hit by a truck. I want to know who the fuck did that. What label said this shit, man? You got to go get a BBL. Wow. Another label also told me, hey.

It was two labels? No, listen. No, this is not a BBL. Another label also told me, this is super. No, because you got to remember, years ago, this was normal. This was back in the days like. She said it was before it was normal they told her that. That's what I'm trying to say.

It wasn't a thing. She took them out. She still in the thing. Yeah. It wasn't a thing then. Yeah. I'm trying to get it. Yo, Vag, we need to pay some money for this information.

Do you know where hot this shit? This is like a big investigation. The label told her to get a BVL. The label told her to get a BBL. Another label. Later on, like closer to more recently. Look, another label. Closer to the more recently, right?

I sat with the label and I'm talking. I'm all excited and shit. And they're like, hey, here's what you should do. If you really want to get signed to a label, you need to start paying for your views on YouTube. I'm like, huh? Like, no, you pay for the views. You get it lit.

We want to see it lit already. That's the only way you're going to get signed to this. That's what we do with our artists. We pay for the, I'm like, shit. This is where the game is now. That's why I say it's not about just their talent. I don't think so, man. No, it's a lot of that going on.

Listen, why Kay Neese ain't got no... I'm talking about people with machines behind them. But look, I'm just saying, for instance, look at Y. K. She's like a typical girl from the hood. She got hit records. She on that belly cush record. That shit, come on. Bounce that ass like a billion dude.

That shit is out of here. Yeah. She ain't like got a BBL. I think good music is just good music. I mean, when we looked at Lauren Hill, Lauren Hill, she wasn't like, she never got naked or nothing, but we thought Lauren Hill is like in the whole of thing.

But Little Kim, you know, she started that shit. You've seen that happen. When she had the print on the cover. You all seen that in real time. What was that? What was that? The suspenders with the shirt off. That started.

That's the start of it. That's the start of it. That's the start of it. Foxy, she had balls, but she wasn't getting. wasn't, you know, I don't want to, it's mad pauses, so I don't want to, it's mad pauses. We can't play none of them. But that first album is like, when girls started talking nasty, you would say before Trina. Yep.

And then, you know, now it's like, sex sells now. Like, niggas want to hear sex in crap. Niggas want Sukiana. Yeah. I just know, I just hate that that's all they want to hear because there's Tiara X. There's Rhapsodies. There's a lot of great. I think Rhapsody and them get their props.

The Rhapsody began her props. So name some of the rappers. Tierra Wack, Rhapsody. Oh, what's this girl? And she's from Brooklyn, too. God damn it. Leakele 47. I'm saying her name all wrong.

It's spelled kind of crazy, but she has a lot of music on like NBA 2K and all that shit like that, and she's from Brooklyn. She doesn't rap about her pussy. She's rap like one of the guys, but she's just a girl. But nowadays,

you can't blame nobody for right, like not buying into nobody music, right? I say that because there's so much exposure out there with this whole internet shit. So if people not grabbing to the rap cities like there and a couple other people you name, who fought is that, though? That's just the, I mean, the people grabbing more to sexy red, right, in the glow-realers or whoever's talking ratchet. That's just, I guess, what people want to hear.

That's what I'm saying, though. People are fucking stupid then. Oh, damn. How are we stupid? All right, let me give you an example. Go-Bella. Hold on. No, no, no.

Don't take well over because you. I like her music. Let me tell you. She doesn't rap just about a pussy. The thing about sexy, sexy red is like a female. We hate Gucci now. I don't hate Gucci, but he hate Gucci now. A female Gucci.

I don't hate Gucci. I don't hate nobody. I love everybody. Now listen, you know me? You might need that interview. I don't got nothing to do with that. He told on niggas, that's on his business. I'll stay out of it.

But we know we don't do that. We don't condone it. So if he want to come here to an interview, you wouldn't do it? With Gucci man? No, I'm not doing that. No, he'll never do it. So look. So what I'm saying, like, with sexy red, her producer,

to me is her and take heed is like Drake in 40. Take heed on the beat. Once I know my man is on the beat and she got her rhymes and she's coming simple. It's not too complicated. And she always just got style with it. She know how to rap. But when Takeeed is with her, they come, you know the beat.

She got niggas bopping their head to her beat. And she might be saying, shit for the females but niggas is rocking. Lottos like that too. They'll just be spitting, but they beats be super hard. Glorilla, too. I love it. They be having...

Lorella's content is versatile. See how she came out with that gospel record? This is not... I'll never listen to that. I don't want to hear that one. But it was actually dope. It was actually dope. Niggas ain't hear that one.

It was actually dope though. Kirk Franklin on the record. We all know. We all know. Kirk Franklin kind of a step on. I'm sorry to say. I'm sorry to say. You, look, me and murder, look, me and murder could go to the projects with a million dollars,

give it away, and that shit didn't get no press. When we go to the projects and get shot at a million times, it's going to get pressed. Negative shit spread fast in the industry. That's just how the industry is. But I just wanted to say it's not like girls aren't working because they are working. No, I'm not saying that they're not working. I'm just saying, like, who fought is that, right? When people say, like, you know, the rap cities and other people, they're not getting their music.

I'll be more than though because they do make dope music. Like, I think Rap City is dope. But, like, who falls it that the people not grab into it more? Or they grabbing more to a sexy brand or the girl. It might be the market. I don't think that the people not grabbing to it more, because if that's the case of person like Dolcey couldn't do what she did, if people didn't appreciate the lyricism of it.

Oh, not, that's a fact. But Doce, the thing about those she's making, she's lyrical, but she's making hit records. Skills pay the bills. You understand? That's what the wise man once told me. I do feel like niggas drag. I don't feel like she's the female Kendrick.

A niggas dragged it. You bugging. She's not no female Kendrick. You're fucking bugging. Now you're on drugs. You're bugging, Bonnie. You know how much. You're bugging.

You know how much. You know what she's putting in? For one album, you think she did that? Don't she could flip her style in so many ways. And the way she performs is ill. Yes, she's the female Kendrick to me over there. She got to do more work to me. That's your opinion.

How many Gramies she got? Look it up. Don't matter about that. She's been in the game for her. how long? Hold on. Because the alkalates do matter. You think she at Kendrick level? You think she at Kendrick level, bro.

Yes. Yes. Hell no. Yes. Kendry just took over the world with one record. She's the female Kendrick. With one record. She's screaming the world.

How many Grammys does she have? Talking about. Hold on, Bonnie. Chill. Let's go with the facts. Stop screaming that. Two-time Grammy and winner, right? Two-time Grammy and winner, right?

And how long she's been in the game? Two to three years? Come on, bro. Nick, I was top tier in one year. That's like me saying, because I was top tier the first year. I should, I'm the best one. No, that's not.

It's because I got the push. I was there. I got the push, I was there. I had a talent, but I also got the push. Once you get Grammys and Oscars and all that of shit,

the world is yours, baby. But we're also talking about, hold on, you're talking about. Hold on, you're talking about Kendrick, like he don't have Grammys. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? So I'm telling you that she's not the female

Kendrick because she does not have what he has. That's your opinion. She doesn't have the height of the reach that he has. She's going to get more Grammys. Two? Let me tell you something. To me right now and rap like, you know, Nikki and Cardi,

like Nikki, she's always, she's in the hall of fame. But Doja Cat and Dochi are just different, bro. They're different kind of. I feel like those are, that's the new regime. Doja, Doja, and Doja Cat and Doci. So let me ask you something. They just won. Hold on.

What's the last album? One, was her first album she won two Grammys? Come on. She had the push, niggas. You act like she just came out of nowhere at that. Oh, me. You know why? Y'all not acknowledging the push that she had.

You're not going to compare like that? Y'all not acknowledge the push that she has. So they're going to say she's a female. Exactly. This is what I'm saying. It was promoted to us like that to be like that. But it was not her coming out here and doing the talent and grinding that Kendrick did to be the Kendrick. That's not what it was.

It was his team saying she's the female version of him and the world saying okay. But she said it. She had the skills. That's what you got. I'm not saying she's not female. She's not female. She made the hits to get Grammys. My daughter put me on a Doshi years ago when she was performing in New York in small events.

Now I do agree with the ladies man. He got tickets. That's Chris Brown and you messed with Tidea in them. Now I do agree with you. I do agree with you. Now look, she was doing a little venues so my daughter put me on to her maybe, because I don't know when Doshi came out, maybe four years ago, three years ago, sometime. She put me on to her, right?

From my daughter going to small events to go see Doshi to now I'm seeing all. She did a small event. New York. Small, not a good venue. Probably like 500,000. Wasn't no bullshit. It's a packed show. My daughter went, you know, do she.

I'm like, damn, who's that? Dad, she's the next one. Oh, all right, cool. That's what that crazy song came out. Right? Dad, she's the next one. Okay, and you're like, oh shit. So I'm seeing a, from a picking them up from like a house of blues event,

so on her on the stage with Grammys, Edding. Like that fast. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. She can grinding on her, real, like, eyes on her. What's TV? Yeah, but you know what it is, though? Sometimes you never know a person story.

So look, she's been grind since 2016. So that's a grind. She's just started getting her judge do about last year, maybe the year before, correct? So she's been, it ain't been an easy vote for her. So you might feel like she ain't been grinding like Kendrick, though, Bonnie. But she's been grinding. She has not. I did not say she has not been grinding.

She has not grinded like Kendrick. Y'all keep trying to twist it to me saying. She said she was grinding since 2016. She has not grounded like Kendrick. I mean the sense he made it in the industry to put more work. You said she still got more work to do before I say she's like a female. I don't think she's a female. You know what I think she's a female.

Kendrick though. But look, you know why I say she's the female Kendrick? And I'm going to tell you something. Because a lot of people, fans come day by night, right? So there's a lot of rappers that we might not know. Like I was, we was talking to Charlemagne. He named four rappers that is his favorite. My daughter, she's a fan of BK. the Ruler.

You ever heard of B.K. the Ruler? BK. The Ruler has a following. People love her. of the rapper, Lucky, admit. Lucky has a following. There's people that have a cult following that's eating, making 100, 200,000, touring House of Blue Sores.

They're famous too. They might not have the clout another person have, but they have a cult following. The thing with those she has a cult following. She has fans. She's for the women. You know what I mean? She love the women.

She'll go viral and say, I'm not fucking with niggas this month or whatever she's saying. She's down with T.D. which is with Kendrick. Skills pay the bills. She came with the whole gimmick. She could dance.

She can do records with J.T. She got style. And she won two fucking Grammys, like from 2021 to now. So I feel like it's more about, there's a lot of artists that are not, we would say mainstream, but they have a co-following.

And I feel like she's mainstream and has a co-following. That's why I said she's like, the female Kendrick. I agree with you. Do you know how global Kendrick is? Do you know how global do she is? She's not as well-

She's not- She's not there She's not there yet Kendra got what Kendra got 10 grand acting like she did everything she needed to do and she's on the same playing field

All I'm just saying as a woman To come out like She was on Soundclad rapists of 2016 To win them two Grammys Like as a new artist A black woman in the game You know I'm saying You sign with TDE

Like even with CISA Is success is not I guarantee. There's plenty of niggas that have been on the label. Listen, I was in the studio with Dr. Dre and see mad niggas. Brooklyn was in there. Joe Bees, 50, they were the game. There was 10 niggers on the label, maybe three or four make it.

So what I'm saying is what she did because it was like, okay, Kendrick drop, J. Rock drop, and here comes to pressure for Dosi. She came with it. She came with it. You're right, she's not weird. Kendrick's at. But five grand me. Five grand me.

Exactly, that's all it. But Kendra- Five-grimies later. The chain, like, ain't nothing he could do wrong. Like, that nigga gave American anthem. What about Drake? He took that whole, he shanks on that, like that. That's what happened, finding. That's how you feel.

That is what happened. That's why everybody still can play. Oh, it was too harsh. Oh, you ain't gonna feel like that when Iceman drop. I bet you're, oh, she's gonna change. That's one thing, yo, look. Listen, listen, this is what is battle rap. And Drake noticed.

That's why I don't even know why he ever even felt the way people say you lost or not, because you're part of the culture. You know how this shit go. You win some, you lose something. You won with Meek. The world was behind you. You win some, you lose some, bro. That's how it goes.

So I never felt like, okay, even if you lost that one, but you would come back. I feel like Drake, like. I don't think he was mad that people felt like he lost. I feel like he felt like it was the things that was said about him, the pedophile shit. I feel like he felt that was like, that wasn't true when people was running with it and People kept saying it, shit like that. I thought he was more mad about that. But I don't think he was disappointed in the L like that.

Like, I think he respected the coach E's him. Do you think when niggas go back and forth? I think he was more hurt by niggas flipping on him. But do you think that goes back and forth to battle rap? Because it's about getting the most disrespectful. This is what I'm saying. Don't jump in this shit if you're going to feel that way. Because if it, however niggas feel, I don't like the way you say nigger.

And now everybody's talking about how they don't like you, where you say, nigga. The end of the day, you Canadian, people could feel that way. But you can't be too emotional about it. it because this is a battle rap. He's doing what he's supposed to do. He's doing what he spoke. Because he took low blows too on pause or on

Kendrick talking about the baby. That's not your son. But it don't matter. It's not taking nothing from Kendrick accolades to him. I think it was good for hip-hop. Skills pay the bills. And shout out to doja.

I wanted to say I'm a big Doja cat van. She showed a range of versatility for a long time. So what you got coming out next, you know, next battle or whatever? Well, you wrap it up on a real quick. I was taking a little retirement, but I got some people. I'm tired, man.

I'm on Shane to Ashley asked because he didn't got me started. Oh, shit. He said I named three times like the bitch, Shout to Shane Ashley. Michael Myers or some shit. No, no. No, that's right.

That's right. Chopin'Rapper. Please y'all on the show, you know, DNA. You know. I need read dollars. I gotta finish out my Philly trilogy. Nix just put the belt to ass. Oh, shit.

Shout to Ness too. I beat E.N.S. too. That's right. That's going to read dollars. That's going to be enough. Shout to read dollars. He called me out a minute ago. Let's get that happening.

And I want to be E-E-N-S and Omp. Uh-huh. And Shuni the rapper. and Haneyman trap all four for the tournament So who said you won next,

Shane and Ashley? Shane and Ashley via this nigga right here he has to host it or I'm not doing it I'll do it I'll tell you

I'll host it Shelfth Shane and Ash we love battle rap you know what I'm saying Who else I said Anderson Burris Okay

he's really viral I like that he viral so I like doing shit with people that's viral And then you retire after like the next 10 battles Yeah exactly

When people When battle rappers say we retire, we just mean we're going to slow down. All right. You're planning to having a meeting with Nick Cannon to figure out that whole Wellin' out business? It was so long ago, bro. God kind of handled it for me. Because when I left, my episodes were syndicated because COVID happened.

So they kept playing my episodes over and over and I got paid. I still get checks from those episodes. Oh, look at that. All right. Yeah, yeah. Shout to Waleneau. Shout to Bonnie Goddiva. It's the real report show.

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