Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Dawgface on Klay Thompson cheating on Megan Thee Stallion, Allstar JR picked up by feds, Pooh Shiesty fumbling the bag, and Top 5 rappers in Detroit
Episode Date: April 30, 2026This episode of The Real Report features Dawgface out of Detroit pulling up with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for a raw and unfiltered conversation that dives deep into Detroit culture, street codes, and... the music industry, from explaining the connection between Detroit and NYC and the city’s slang to breaking down his rise through viral moments and podcasting in his hometown. Dawgface gives his take on the current state of the city with strong opinions on the Top 5 rappers in Detroit and how artists like Tee Grizzley shifted the sound, while also reacting to major headlines including Klay Thompson and Megan Thee Stallion drama, calling out the situation in his own blunt way. The crew also touches on street accountability, checking in across cities, and industry pitfalls, highlighted by discussion around Allstar JR getting picked up by the feds and whether Pooh Shiesty fumbled the bag, tying in commentary about Gucci Mane being seen as a civilian and what that means for credibility, leading into a broader conversation about protecting opportunities, street mentality versus business moves, and how quickly things can go left in both the streets and entertainment world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And it's a southern saying that says, my tongue is in my friend's mouth.
That ain't knows, right?
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Because we don't change that saying.
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It's the Talk of New York.
And it's the boy Lair Jack Lenny, bro.
And we got the most controversial motherfucker on line.
He always speak his mind.
He don't give a fuck.
Make some noise.
Dog face in the building.
Oh.
I swear, I got to feel, man.
Detroit in a building and Pontiac because you're from both.
Yeah, yeah.
You can eat.
It can interchangeable.
What's the difference between Detroit Pontiac?
20 minutes.
So it's still Detroit?
Yeah, the difference is 20 minutes.
You can get the same.
You can get the same.
Oh, so it's 20 minutes away from Detroit?
Yeah, it's the same.
That's crazy because like 20 minutes from like south side of Jamaica to Jamaica Avenue,
that's just like still being in Queens.
Yeah, you get the same.
So my thing I use this as a weapon.
They try to weaponize me not being born in that joint.
Trying to make it seem like as if I'm less efficient because I wasn't born there,
as if everybody in the city of Detroit is real.
It's just solely because it's like saying
every Zimbabwe is stumped down African.
Right, yeah.
And how that's it go, man.
It's about the person.
And it ain't where you're from, where you're at.
I know plenty of suck of the people who are in the city.
Yeah, I would never diss a whole city or a whole hood.
Yeah.
Just me.
I would be fun.
I would like it.
Yeah, you did.
Yeah.
I didn't take a person.
New York.
I didn't even say, I didn't know about this.
This New York.
Yeah, I had to get that.
Why about for what?
What do you mean you had to get us?
I had to get us, man.
The Harlem Shake and the motherfucker, the Bambi-Bahy-W-W-W-W.
Whoa, don't dis Harlem Shake now.
Shout to Harlem, bro.
Yo, a nigger Harlem Shaker had that pistol on it, boy.
Start doing all that shit, man.
Hallam Shake is crazy.
Yeah.
That's all good.
Like, yo, listen, you're the most controversial nigger online.
We had to have you on the show.
It's the real report.
We know you the spokesperson for J.L.
you know, Detroit, we know the whole situation.
Talk about that.
We know he's in federal custody.
We know he got busy.
We know it's NBA young boy people and junior and them.
Like, what's going on?
Because you're the spokesperson.
Have you spoken to him?
Yeah, I spoke to him.
I spoke to him yesterday.
So, I mean, how far you want me to go into the shit?
Let's just give you a brief synopsis of what took place.
All-Star J.R.
And you get nobody locked up.
No, anybody locked up.
No, only one locked up is.
is All-Star J.R.
He only locked up.
And he's locked up,
and he was officially charged
with being a felon in possession of a firearm.
But the amazing thing about it is
is that you had multiple people who were shot by him.
Immediately so.
And he's not charged with no crimes of violence.
He's not charged with shooting nobody
or hurt nobody and anything that they're going to shit.
He's solely charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm,
a firearm that he recovered during an assault
and a robbery of him.
that's already in the federal complaint right so when you read the federal complaint it says
that he's charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm uh with nothing else right and in the
complaint it articulates the fact that he was the victim of an assault and a robbery because they
snatched the change and pulled his watch off his arm you know right so that's the craziest part
about it uh the other crazy part about it is that every everything that the NBA camp said in response
to jr and the world kind of like getting becoming aware of what took place everything about that
And she, it is what it is.
It's a bunch of cats out of Houston, out of Baton Roos, basically saying the fares snatched
him up because they wanted him to make a statement.
The statement is in the video.
I saw the entire video.
But what the world saw was just a snippet of what happened.
I've also saw the restaurant footage from the parking lot showing Jay Prince and the whole
How you got to see all this footage?
Because we got motherfuckers who were in the restaurant.
You know what I'm saying?
That chicks who worked there, you know what I'm saying?
So we got to see all that shit.
And JR, after the shooting happened, he fled.
He dropped the gun.
He left it there at the police podium.
Right?
And he walked about that motherfucker,
jumped in his car and got the fuck on.
The feds never had the opportunity.
Law enforcement period.
Local, state, or federal,
never had the opportunity to talk to him
because he left the gun.
Just like some mafia shit.
Like when you watch the old mafia movies,
once you bang a motherfucker,
you ain't got to, you ain't got to,
they're looking for the pistol.
You ain't got to look for it
because it's right there.
You know what I'm saying?
He left.
jumping in the truck and got the fuck on.
And he came back to Michigan.
So they never had the opportunity to talk to him
except through his lawyer, he lowered up right away.
He never had the opportunity to talk to.
The only people who had the opportunity to talk to
are the people who was in the hospital shot the fuck up,
paralyzed with shit bags on with missing fingers.
Only people he had talked to was them next.
They made statements.
And that's why it's some confusion about,
or that's why it's the issue about who had the pistol,
who had what we weren't wearing how.
They made statements.
And when you look at the federal complaint,
another amazing fact about it is
the federal complaint says he was a victim of an assault
and robbery.
And I ain't advocating niggas to get locked up.
But when you look at this shit from a straight line,
if you've been in trouble before at all,
if you know about the legal system at all.
So these niggas robbed him and jumped on him
and he grabbed their gun.
And even in the federal complaint,
it don't say he had to fire on with him
the entire time.
It says that as he was being,
him assaulted and took for your shit, he grabbed the firearm that hit the floor.
It don't say he had it the whole time, right?
And he grabbed and he banged them, niggas.
And it was what it was.
They got what they were supposed to get for planning how he played it.
Hmm.
So when you spoke to him, how was his energy, he felt like he might beat that case.
We beat that shit because it is what it is.
Everything is spelled out.
They want they, they try to play it like, oh, they want JR to make a statement.
If he make it a statement, it's going to trigger a bigger indictment with,
with Jay Prince Jr. and all the rest of that shit.
It is what it is.
Monefucking, you niggers played with it.
They got the surveillance footage.
They have y'all all talking the whole story that C.J.R. made a mistake.
So in his, in his, in his, in his, in his, forever quest to try to prove himself,
he took the Instagram, and he made an Instagram post wearing, which he said that
he arrived late at OG33's party, who is part of, who was like second, third, the
commander never broke again, the extra labor.
Yeah, yeah, young people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He made a statement and put it on Instagram,
and it's day he made me take it down
because all you did was just give him a chronological timeline.
All you did is really explain from your perspective
what happened and you're gonna nail yourself
because that shit ain't what happened.
And you, it ain't gonna take much.
The footage itself contradicts what Junior's original statement was.
And the statement was, is that he was moving around
where the course of his day.
He had no idea this was gonna happen.
He had no idea that he was gonna see JR.
And that he arrived late to a party
that was already taking place at confessions.
That's a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
The NBA OG3's birthday party with him and his family, NBA Ron,
dead in, all the niggas.
It was at a restaurant in Houston called Atlantic Ocean, right?
They were all there.
Well, Junior wasn't there.
They were there.
When they pulled up the confessions, they all pulled it up together.
So when Junior said, hey, I arrived at,
because I had to go to my aunt's birthday party,
which was the family affair.
And I had to go to physical theory.
So that's why I arrived late with no jury on.
And I didn't have regular mob ties figures or security with me
because Junior never goes anywhere without security.
Because he ain't going to know without no security
because he ain't like that.
He needs somebody to help him out.
He needs to help him in.
He ain't just bopping around that bitch.
Even though he's born and raised in Houston,
he ain't bobbing around that motherfucker by himself because he can't.
So that was a statement that he made on Instagram.
When you look at the overall footage,
especially the parking lot footage,
you see them all pull up together.
And he said that he was attending, he was coming,
he came late because he had his birthday party
and because he had physical therapy.
The whole incident transpired at 1130 on April 8.
April 8 was a Wednesday.
The restaurant closed at 12 at midnight.
They all got there at 1130.
The footage show you all getting there together at 1130.
So there was no party that Junior was late for
because Junior and the NBA camp came together.
And as JR was leaving at 1130, that's when they were coming.
So the whole theory and the whole story,
he put his foot in this mouth by telling that whole shit like that.
And then when the NBA camp talked to academics, academics said he retold the story about,
he pulled up, Junior pulled up to a party that was already going.
They wasn't even there, right?
When the footage of the whole situation, they wasn't there.
Junior All Star, JR, was leaving.
and they were coming
and the confrontation
happened right at the elevator
you know what I'm saying
so it was an orchestrated measure man
Jay Prince Jr. is a
despicable piece of shit
he's a horrible
can I cuss
no
yeah he's a horrible
he's a horrible
cocksucking ass nigga
he is not his father
he is a
he is not his father
he's tarnishing the entire
image of the whole
rapalot dynasty empire
that nigga is not his daddy
he had a trust fund baby
trying to be something
that he's not
And that's why he constantly consistently find himself in situations like we have right now.
It is what it is.
The whole, when you look at Duke the jewelry situation, you look at the takeoff situation, these guys, speaking of mob ties, right?
If it's mob ruling the fact, like I told people, man, listen, when it comes to checking in, right?
Checking in is not a sucker thing.
Checking in really came from the streets.
It came, it's a street principle.
It ain't about, oh, when I go somewhere, if I come to New York, you.
I mean, if I check in with you, if I tap in with you, that's not me being a whole.
It's not me being a coward.
It's not me being scared.
Yeah, but checking in, this is how New York niggas look at it.
We used to the backdoor situation since we was young.
This is New York.
Niggas is grimy.
Bitches spit, raises out their mouth.
Right.
Cut on the train.
This is New York.
We've been grimy.
Yeah.
So for us, like, we never checked in because we're not going to trust nobody.
Right.
So if I check in, like, that's how I know you were little's, right?
Right.
That's like my way of, oh, dog face is cool.
He fuck with my man.
Right.
But like, we ain't gonna go to LA and tap in with no bloods and no crips like that.
Yeah.
Like, niggas are just going chill, go to their hotel.
We might have blood and crib friends down the line, like G-Unit, but we never really, I check
it in and just going to the nice hotel and staying low.
Right.
But listen, let's take it down a line for a second.
So let's say, let's go back to the five families in LaCocinochet, right?
When Lucky Luciano or even Bumpy Johnson, right,
when Bumpy Johnson, he always came to Detroit.
Madden Sinclair always came to Detroit.
The Harlemites always came to Detroit to fuck with the gangsters,
the black gangsters in the city of Detroit,
in Chicago as well, right?
When Bumping them and Madam came to Detroit,
the check-in was just like an acknowledgment.
This is my territory.
This is my land.
I know what's going on here.
I know the lay of the land.
So when you come here out of respect
for you and the respect for me, I'm responsible.
I can't have something to happen to you.
So I'm going to have to explain what happens to you to my niggas from Brooklyn or from Queens
or from, you know, from the five, but they want to know what happened.
Hell you.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm responsible for you.
So the respect thing, so the check-in thing is not for suckers.
It's not for civilians.
The check-in thing is for gangsters.
If you come to Detroit, you tap in with me, you tap in with a little.
We're responsible for you because you are gangster.
You come from gangsters to cloth.
It ain't for just a regular, rank and file civilians.
If you're a regular rank of file civilian,
and you have no motion,
you have no, no, they're there.
If there's no there there to you,
then, nigga, you can just go and go to the Dairy Queen
or go to fucking 31 flavors.
Go to Dunkin' Donuts, all you want to.
But if you come to Detroit,
you got out of respect for me,
because I'm responsible for you.
There's something happens to you.
The people who know me and you, right,
they're going to look to me to figure out
what the fuck happened with murder.
They're going to call it.
If something happens to you,
it's something happened.
They're going to look to me anyway
because I'm there.
You ain't murdering and checking in?
They all ain't checking in with you?
They ain't, it's a sucker shit.
No, I understand.
It is gangster shit.
It's for gangsters.
It ain't for civilians.
Yeah, but for me-
Some suckers do check in too, though.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, so that's a, it's called it.
It's called...
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, because they do it for the...
See, because it's been...
Everything is wired down.
All gangsters shit, all street shit are right down.
But see, my checking in might be easy because I'm gonna say,
we go to Chicago.
Liggin's gonna be like, yo, let's go check out O Block tourists.
Yeah.
I'm not doing that.
I'm going right to the wall door.
Right.
I'm order my room service.
I'm kicking it back.
I'm in downtown Chicago.
I'm chilling.
If I go to Detroit, I'm gonna be at that Thinium Hotel.
That's a nice spot, right?
Thinium, be going there for years.
Yeah.
Chill downtown, go to Eminem's spot, get some good food.
Might go to Conies.
No, no, you can violate you by saying that shit.
You don't say that shit no more.
What?
What?
That's my brother.
I get you, but you're going on a spaghetti spot.
I'm going to go to Eminem spot.
No.
I'm going to go to San Juan's.
No, let's say you're going to.
Let's go to .
Look, I'm going to Conies.
Look, I'm going to go to Coni's.
Why he's saying it ain't going there?
What?
What?
I'm going to go there, Eminem, bro.
That's who blew us up.
What's your mom?
What's your mom to teach you about eating motherfuckett of spaghetti?
Huh?
What's your mom?
I don't know.
I don't know that.
If they told you don't be eating, you know anybody by spaghetti.
No, when you next time you come, we're going to take you somewhere where it's just like home.
But we're going to go to Eminem spot too.
I was aware.
Shout to Eminem, shout to Shady.
That's family.
They invite you there too.
It's the Detroit thing, man.
Pontiac thing.
No, I ain't going there.
And what is it with the buffs?
Y'all love buffs.
You got diamonds all in that shit.
It's jerry.
It's like you take the chain off, take the box.
They don't call them Cardi's.
They call them buffs.
We call them Yeas.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
It's different variations.
You have wires.
You have woods and you have buffalo.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's different variations of Cardiare, glasses.
But they're cardies.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just different variations.
I got wires.
I got busts.
I have woods.
You know what it is.
It's levels to this shit.
So you throw diamonds, you can throw diamonds in anything from the woods to the wires to
the buffs.
The buffs are the most expensive of the Cardi airline.
Right.
I know Detroit's niggas take their shit seriously.
Y'all feel like y'all started that, right?
Yeah.
Y'all go the hardest with them shit.
I ain't going on out.
Like New York big as fuck with the Cardi's, but.
Yeah, we're the ones who turn.
So like, Cardi's.
Cardi's is a staple of Detroit, kind of like Thames is for New York.
Right.
Nobody, Tim, niggins to New York, the New York's hip-hop community, they made Timberlin's
popular.
Exactly.
Nobody else can claim that.
You know what I'm saying?
There's other things, but just when it comes to Thames, like with New York being the cradle
of hip-hop, all fashion, all, all things hip-hop and the culture as specifically relates to hip-hop,
it all started here in the Mecca.
This is the, this is Mecca and Medina.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, I don't get a fuck.
Where you're from, man?
If you, I'm, I'm 53, so I'm a first generation hip hop here.
I grew up listening to everything from Stetsasasonic to Grand Master Flash to
Run DMC.
Of course, and run the MC actually changed the game.
Because niggas went to wearing Jerry curls and silk shirts and boots and shit to coming
through with the dobs and with the leather joints and the Adidas and shit like that.
So it is, it is like a staple.
Bro, you could have Carthys with nothing to them, just some woods or some wires, plain.
That shit is worth more.
than having a watch on or a chain on,
you can get pussies on having Cardi's in Detroit.
It's like that, you know?
Not Detroit, y'all.
Carries like Superman shit.
Well, it's like Clark Kent.
You put, without them, I'm Clark Kitt.
Well, because I'm jumping over shit.
I'm jumping.
I'm jumping.
I'm playing with their Cardys out there.
Jury game too.
I love Detroit, man.
I love it out there.
It's something to get cold.
Detroit, New York is really, it's kind of spirit
between the two, because it's grimy, work hard,
You ain't getting shit for free.
It's fast-paced and a nigga put your ass down without thinking about it.
And they'll get your ass together.
Who you saved your top five out of Detroit?
A lot of rappers out of Detroit.
Who you say you said top five?
My top five?
Out of Detroit.
Out of Detroit.
Tough tone.
Cheddar boy tough tones is one.
I remember the cheddar boys.
Shut up, make it better.
Some niggas had some money back then.
My top five, tough tone of all time?
Or just right now?
I mean, it could be.
You could give me your top five of all time and right now.
Okay, top five all time, tough tone.
You got those trick on there.
You said top five, my man, but he's not the top five as far as making
the niggas to get on the groove and buggy.
I listen to music that coincide with the way I think.
Either what I'm doing right now or the shit that I'm thinking about trying to do.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like, for example, I listen to Jay Z because that's intelligent jug thug music.
When I'm ready to go bust a nigga in here, I'm going to listen to some G-unit 50
You see, because of the struggle associated with that shit, I listen to music that inspires
my thought process or it inspires me where, no, it inspires what I wish I could do.
You feel what I'm saying?
So, no, no, trick.
There was a point where everybody, it was only, you only knew trick trick, like Eminem.
Let's just out.
Shut out the trick, respect, you right?
I knew trick before he was tricked.
I knew trick when he was in prison together on the big yard, the back 40.
But when it comes to lyrical inspiration.
No, motherfuckers respect trick because he's a man of substance and what he says he means.
And for all the sacrifices that he made for the city of Detroit in terms of trying to establish a network.
You know what I'm saying?
When you come here, you bump in and you're different to these, right?
But when it comes to lyrical shit, no, when it comes to lyrical shit, is...
Well, he and my top five.
Who did you get you?
Him and Eminem and M&M.
Definitely.
Yeah.
You're going to be a weight motherfucker.
You wait for me to say Eminem and then my top five.
And then it's my top five, what, nigga?
You asked me up, okay?
You said tough tone.
I don't even know who that is.
I mean, but the motherfuckers are you.
You said tough toes.
Say it, no disrespect to tough tone.
He said, Shatter boys.
But no, fuck with the cheddar boy.
I remember the chatter.
Shout up, make it better.
I remember all that shit.
So my top five is tough tone, blade, icewood,
Big Hurp, rock bottom.
These guys is better than trick, trick and Eminem?
What, lyrically, they're better than...
So, lyrically, there's nobody
better than M as far as lyric putting together words.
Okay, all right.
But see, it's two different things in these short.
The guys you just named say you said they're lyrical.
They are voices of the street.
Let me get an example.
Like, if you were to compare 50 to like a Nause,
motherfuckers would be like, niz is more lyrical because he comes up
from different angles.
But the whole, my life, I'm talking about me.
I'm a gangster.
I come to the street.
I'm listening to the shit.
I'm going to rob me a nigger, a two, a three, a four.
A folk.
So I'm listening to shit.
I understand.
Like I grew up.
So listen.
I understand you.
Let's go back.
When I started my, the first gangster shit I heard, like for real, for real, I'm a
cool G rap fan.
You know what I'm saying?
On the run, I'm listening.
I ain't listening to nobody in Detroit.
Don't forget.
I'm a first generation hip hop here.
So my top five, I can't even really name a top five out of the city because I grew up listening
to KRS one.
I grew up listening to MC Shan.
I grew up listening to Kooji rap.
I grew up listening to Special Aid.
I grew up listening to, you know what I'm saying?
I grew up listening to, I listened to music.
But Detroit popping right now and I'm on the music scene.
So who's the top five right now?
Top five right now?
This niggas in Detroit that's popping right now.
Top five right now.
You got to say, Doug.
Let him answer you.
I want to see what he said.
Top five right now as far as national status.
In Detroit.
In Detroit?
But got outside of you, they big of outside.
Okay, so top five in Detroit, you got to put Doug in there.
You have to put Peasy in there.
So that's my God Peezy.
Baby Face Ray.
You got to put Skilla Baby too.
Yeah, Doug Peezy.
See, see, Yale trying to force me down the angle.
You got to force me down the angle.
Skilletka.
Skillet baby had the biggest records out of Detroit so far.
I don't got to remember State Black and pay taxes.
You know what I'm saying?
This politics with me.
No, I ain't, you know what I'm saying?
No, I'm saying.
But keeping the G, though, so is Doug.
Skiller, Peasy, Baby Face Ray, and I would give the fifth spot.
And in that particular order?
Yeah, yeah.
You give it to Skiller Baby.
Yeah, because they all- You always say Skiller twice.
So Doug Peezy, Skiller.
Skiller Baby.
Oh, IceWin Veezo.
No.
You can't.
Doug Peasy, Baby Face Ray, Skiller Baby, T. Grizzie.
Tee Grizzie.
That's my top fat.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I could agree with that.
That's my type.
And no particular order.
Got you.
Okay.
That's my top fact.
Yeah, because T. Grizzly first day out definitely.
He changed the game for the city.
That shit was great.
The success of Tick Grizzly's first day out, it really, so listen, it did something for the city because before that you had the M&M's lyrical giant.
You had the big shot on us.
You had the days lowes, right?
As far as people who had reached international success with the hip-hop shit, we hadn't had a voice of the streets.
Like, New York has had many voices.
You know what I'm saying?
You got motherfuckers who are legends in just the Tried State area, you know me?
So, Detroit, we never had motherfuckers who really give the world what's happening on the street level in the city of Detroit until the success of first day.
And the success of first day out really showed the executives that that street shit, they're just the backpack boom-bap shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It is that street shit can sail.
She really made the motherfuckers believe and know and understand that it's a different level.
and to a different side of Detroit
than what we have been
accustomed to.
It's different Royce to Eminem
to Trick, Tricks.
Big Sean, we didn't throw Big Sean on that,
let's see.
Big Sean, what you mean?
He's from Detroit, right?
Big Sean.
You mean, I'm listening to motherfuckers
who really tell the story of the streets.
Oh, but Big Sean,
you know what I'm saying?
Big Sean is a lyrical great too.
Big Sean, let's get it out the way.
Eminem, Big Sean,
the days of the world,
they are all greatly large.
Royce is a lyrical.
genius, but I don't listen to none of that shit.
I don't get in my car and my truck and none of that
and pop none of that shit on.
I put shit on where a niggas gonna get robbed, kill,
and you're gonna sell some dope around this bitch.
A pimple bitch around this bitch.
You know what I'm listening to.
I ain't listen.
No, I don't want to hear no, nigga, I'm talking about,
I want, it's money holds, car closed,
and money holds cars closed.
That's it.
That's what I just, that's not.
So I know a UGK fan then, Pimsy.
Mother fucking course.
Yeah.
That's my shit.
Yeah, no doubt.
Uncle murder, he always robbed niggas and music.
Damn, yeah, yeah.
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Do you remember when Diana Ross
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A little different.
Jeezy, drug dealer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What you feel about Gucci though?
What all this bullshit going on there?
Gucci, I mean, Gucci didn't give his play a car.
He didn't gave his car the way.
You can hand me that motherfucking, you can run that bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
The difference is the whole thing.
My honest opinion about the Gucci shit is that, so it's just two different angles.
One, we can say, okay, he's not the Gucci of old.
He's a businessman, he's older, he's wiser, he's more established, he's married, and blah, blah, blah.
But you can forget, this.
Listen, once you raise your hand,
and once you raise your right hand,
you pledge allegiance to the streets.
Sure.
Then whether you are actively involved in the streets
or not, there's still an etiquette that must be observed.
There's still standards.
They're still, well, you can't look at it like that
because he's, it's business, blah, blah, blah.
My nigga, well, you, you fucking with niggas.
It's like, it's like, I can't claim,
I can never claim civilian status, right?
But I do got a new form, though.
It's called the, it's called the,
It's called the street nigger renunciation form, right?
We're going to give this motherfucking form, right?
If you're a street nigger and you no longer want to be held to standards,
then we have us here you go.
Sign his paper, sir.
Yeah, sand his paper.
So when you do do some shit that we consider against the rules and regulations of the street,
we can't be mad because you can't, you do have the right to grow and mature.
You do have the right to say, okay, mom, you know what I'm 50.
I'm 45, I'm 38.
I ain't got time for that.
I'm a different type of a nigga now I ain't in the street.
So I'm not going to respect.
to react like a street nigger.
You do have the right to do that.
You do have the right.
But at the same time, if you have way in and you have way out,
or if you study popping that shit,
because from a lyrical, from a music,
he's known for being, he's a musician, he's an artist.
We don't know him being a philanthropist.
He's not no motherfucking mega-evers.
He ain't no motherfucking Dr. Martin Luther King or Mr. Farkon.
This nigga's known for popping shit,
and he's known for establishing the anti-rat thing along the South.
So if you're going to play it like that,
my nigga, you can't, now if he had changed his lyrical content and we see a track record of him
morphine into something than what we knew him to be, a rob and thug and ass nigga, then yeah,
okay, well, you would be a fool to assume you're going to get the same shit because we hear the
difference in him now.
Right.
But no, nigga, you don't get the chance.
You don't get to play.
You don't get to play in the street and then get to, you know, when the shit don't go your
way, nigga, you don't get to do that.
What is he supposed to do?
Not that.
Definitely.
Not that.
Definitely agree.
You don't get to do that shit.
If it was 50 and 50 did that shit,
they don't get a fuck by how much studio he built,
how much movie, how much executive shit,
they would try to tear his ass apart.
He wouldn't get that grace period.
Came over, man.
He wouldn't get that grace period.
You were absolutely right.
No, you don't get that grace period.
We all are beholden to something.
Now, if you ain't in it, you ain't in it.
It's all as well.
But here's this street, nigger, renunciation form.
You sign this bitch, and then we know moving foot.
that you are subject to do some bitch-ass shit.
Yeah.
And we ain't holding you to it because you didn't already said.
I give up.
I don't want this shit no more.
I'm straight.
Free Poussi, man.
Yeah, that boy.
He's a dumb-ass-nigna.
I ain't saying because two things that appear to be opposite
that can be true.
Right?
I'm not saying that Poo-Sysi.
Poo-Sysi is no motherfucking Johnny Cochran.
He ain't no motherfucking.
He was young.
He was young.
He young.
He's young.
Hey, listen, murder.
This motherfucker.
He shouldn't have been there.
This motherfucker went to prison with the hottest record in the world for robbing the nigger about some shoes and some weed.
So you know you're dealing with a motherfucker who ain't the sharpest tool in the shit in the shed.
This thing went to prison for five years ago for robbing the nigger for some shoes and some weed.
You already know you're dealing with a motherfucker of extreme low mental capacity.
We know you're not going to say that.
we just might say he just don't play.
He just might be like, he got a temper.
The whole goal of getting any kind of money,
whether you're rapping, are you from the street,
the whole goal of...
Of course, to get out of that shit.
But we don't be knowing the reason behind them.
Even with the whole sneaker shit,
and we don't know the whole reason.
Protect the bag.
Like he said, you got to protect the bag.
You robbed the nigga and jumped into McLaren.
That's like a $500,000.
Yeah.
And then the whole thing is, you know what I'm saying?
So here's here's the things that we have, right?
So I ain't going to just condemn a nigger.
But I'm going to be a plain spoken ass.
I ain't from playing no game.
Nigga.
You, listen, where, like he said,
where's the protecting the bad guy?
You niggas are from the slums of Memphis, Tennessee.
Niggas ain't from no motherfucking Beverly Hills.
Niggas ain't from the Hamptons.
You niggas ain't from West Bloomfield.
You're from the slum.
Ain't, you went to prison.
That was your first shot at it.
You didn't fucked up.
Okay, you went to prison for four years.
You put your money on hold.
You, everything's dad.
your family didn't suffer and everything.
You come home.
And the best thing you can think of
because you're disgruntled
and you're upset and you're angry
and you frustrated.
The best thing you can think
and then there's nobody around you
who watch you fall down the first time.
You don't get many chances, man.
You got motherfucklers who do four years
come home and your life cycle is over with.
Yeah.
The first case was 2020.
Yeah.
With the robbery.
The second case is 2020,
2021 with the shooting in the security line.
The third case...
was what? That was just now. I think he did one from 2021. He got out, what,
2023, editing? Something like that. Last year. So he caught this time with the whole
he caught three cases back to back. Now look, I went to jail and got arrested the next day.
So niggas looked at me like I was crazy, but that was really an office mistake. Yeah,
he put the fake passport in the paperwork. I was excited home, seeing my kids, you know, wild night.
So I didn't check the paperwork. If I knew the fake passport was in there with my brother name on it,
I wouldn't hand that to my P.O. Right. So that was like,
an office mistake.
Right.
It wasn't like I did some shit when I just got out some crazy shit.
Right.
And we did crazy shit when we younger, but, bro, if you got the hottest record on the street,
you turned Nike.
But he ain't seeing all his money, he felt like he's playing with his paperwork.
No.
No, we understand that.
That boosie said, and I agree with it.
I know he was thinking that everybody could say, yeah, he's dumb.
He did this way he was, for, you know, he just came home.
But look, he thought he was doing it to a street nigger.
He thought he was doing it to official nigger.
So he's like, he thinking the last thing this nigger.
going to do is play police games.
Watch this.
That's the last, like, why he did.
I know he thought the last thing Gucci do was going to play police games.
But he had civilians in the studio with him though.
Yeah, but niggas got control of their peoples, man.
You got control of a civilian?
It's your peoples.
So my thing is if it's your lawyer, your security, you kind of got control that what's going
to happen at the end of the day.
So you think if you choke like, like, Theo Scott of Meyer in a meeting, he could tell the police.
He might like a lawyer.
The O ain't been rolling with us, though.
It's about who's rolling with you.
No, Chris Lydie ain't going to do recipe.
Those shit like that.
Rest of peace, Chris Lydie and you're going to fight.
You know that.
But if you got-
Niggas did us dirty, all right, we catch up with them in traffic.
That's what I'm saying.
You got some people that, it's who you rolling with.
And I know he expected from him knowing Gucci and Gucci's history, he wasn't thinking
Gucci was gonna play police game.
Well, a dude, the white boy that got his neck, took pictures of his neck and his wrist, he's telling.
That's a camera man.
See?
He's a civilian.
Let's go up top with this shit one time.
Let's go up top.
Go up top.
Now watch this.
He said, so let's go with that.
He wasn't expecting Gucci to respond or to react like that because of what?
Not because of his personal experience with Gucci.
He never thud with Gucci.
When he met Gucci, he met Gucci after he came home.
He met the Keisha Ki-Kiora version of Gucci, right?
So you didn't expect something.
That's like little kids grow up, believe.
grow up believing that said rapper is this nigger.
That whole shit was created in the studio or whatever,
whatever you think.
You believe that a nigga was going to respond and react to something
based on what you know about his public persona,
based on reading some shit in a magazine,
based on hearing his story on your MTV Raps or Rap City or something,
you don't even know him to know that.
You got niggas in Atlanta who know that he was never that.
You know what I'm saying?
You got niggas who he didn't shoot Pugiloh.
He just claimed it for publicity stunt purposes.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, he didn't clap him for it?
Yeah, he didn't clap that nigga, right?
So the whole thing is.
So security clapped?
Who clapped him?
He'd been claiming that for the longest.
Because it's niggas, I know niggas who claim, I know niggas who say they fuck holes,
never fucked the hoe.
I know niggas who claim it and never did it.
I know it's all kinds of shit.
There's all kinds of shit niggas to do.
My point is he didn't think he would do it.
That's a life lesson.
So the shit that happened with these niggas, right?
I don't have no sympathy for the niggas, right?
Because you are, you have been.
I have sympathy for the young guys.
I'm gonna tell you I don't got to.
If you was in the streets, you got to.
Hey, murder.
I just heard you say you was in the streets.
You was in jail.
You've been with trick, trick, 17 years in jail.
So you got to have sympathy for the young guys now.
Even if they make a mistake.
Damn.
So listen.
So listen, there is errors and there's mistakes.
The shit that push ice you just did now, I would give you a mistake.
The first young, wild, don't got a clue.
He don't understand what you're gonna lose when you bust your joint in the, when you
bust the move in Miami with the car.
and the weed and the shoes.
25 is still young.
At 25 years old, I was sitting in prison cells,
so I had had a gang of experience, right?
And I know that motherfuckers had different levels of maturity
and niggas got different levels of get on.
But we're dealing with motherfuckers who listen.
The first time, okay, you're a rock star.
You could change your whole family's life.
And if nobody didn't tell you why you was living in the moment,
I'm sure why you were sitting down that four years,
because when he was in prison, he was on protection.
He was on protection in prison.
He was on blue hole car.
in prison.
That nigger went a stump in the yard.
That thing was on PC.
And he was standing up,
eating his food.
That nigga,
he knew what that shit tasted like
with his smell.
He went in that bitch
stug and stabbing on niggas.
So he,
nigga,
if that didn't snap,
you went to the reality of this shit,
ain't nobody,
ain't no lawyer,
no executive from Atlantic.
Ain't nobody tell you,
hey, listen, bro,
you sit in this bitch
that's your four years.
Your whole family
can come from poverty.
Here's your opportunity.
When you come back home,
you're going to be on fire.
Get your money.
Get your left right.
Nobody,
nobody had that conversation.
It's either that he doesn't have the mental capacity to understand that, and that's a whole different subject.
If you're saying this nigger, get locked up, do four years, but he hit the top of the rap game,
he get locked up, remove himself from the equation, shut his money down, and cut his family legacy off at the hip right there.
You do four years you come home and you still just as stupid as you was?
You don't know better than none of this shit you did?
You think this shit was going to be that?
No, bro, it's the, he LD then.
If you're saying that, you said this d'nick as LD.
You got to look at NBA Youngboy.
got locked up his team sending me Utah
nigger made $100 million in the garage
You know what I mean his team wasn't letting
him do that when I was getting in trouble there was lawyers
Scott Lehman
Well that's why I poochasey
He was trying to get a new team
His team wasn't he was trying to get a new team
So your team is personal
Your team isn't even
So your team is personal
There has to be somebody in
They has to be somebody in the equation
And I'm not just blaming him
But I'm blaming him because he's a man
He individual you go to jail
You go to Rikers Island
Niggas one nigga they're going to pop their pitch wrong
That's you and you
They ain't me
We can all go
together, we're going to get our pictures pop separately.
It's one thing on your ID when you go to the penitentiary, right?
No, I'm saying, when you go to see the parole board,
or you go have a discussion about your freedom from the judge, it's you.
So my nigga, you sit down and locked down four and a half years.
You getting scrolls off in that bitch.
You sit back thinking, and it never struck your,
it never crossed your mind at one fucking time.
I didn't fucked up here.
Then when you come home, you come home, you're not even home a year,
and you jump into that and you thought they said was going to work.
My, listen, you and you and you,
And you at 25 years old, y'all come out the streets.
The streets basically sit it's all out respectfully.
Pause.
Pause, right?
Come on, man.
The streets, do y'all come get the, man?
What?
Ain't nobody, you ain't had not one phone conversation about, and I don't need no nigger to tell
me nothing about no mistake.
When I went to prison, I was sitting there, I was like, well, it's on.
I knew exactly what it happened.
And my only thing is I hope I get another opportunity to go home and make this shit right
for myself, not for nobody else.
My nigga, that shit that nigga did was the stupidest shit in the world.
That shit was slow bush, slob against a window-ass behavior, my nigga.
That was wear a helmet type shit.
It ain't no excuse for that shit.
You try to force it allegedly, trying to force all alleged, right?
You're trying to force a nigga to sign the contract.
And you think that's for the...
You're trying to sign this, I'm free of you.
That's not the first time that's been done.
It ain't.
And I'm going to tell you where you got it from.
Where you got it from?
I'm going to tell you why he thought you.
Shook, Shook.
Nica.
Nah, they're niggas.
Shug vanilla ice.
That's the first.
That's the first.
That's the, that's the.
Yeah, but listen, I bet you.
Sugar, vanilla ice.
I bet you pull shite you.
Don't know nothing about that.
We're talking with, we talk.
Oh, yeah, they don't know.
They don't know anything about that shit, right?
You know where you got it from?
Who?
Big 30.
Don't forget Big 30 was signed to Money Bag Yo.
Oh, okay.
Now we learned.
And Big 30 muscled his way out of that situation with Money Bag Yo.
That's where, and Big 30, his right hand man.
So I'm thinking, if you think about it,
Big 30 was signing the money in the bag yo.
They went at it, they started doing songs against each other.
And then all of a sudden, Big 30 is not signed to Money Bag Yo.
I think it's forever, Endless Breed Entamer or some shit like that.
He's a free agent.
So I'm willing to, I would bet my finger that that whole concept of this,
how we're going to muscle this nigga out like this.
I bet you that was from him looking at Big 30 situation with Money Bag Yo
and how Money Back Yo kind of like, gone hit on.
I'm willing to bet you.
That's where you got that shit.
This is why niggas don't want to sign artists anymore.
Allegedly.
This is why niggas don't want to sign artists no more
because you sign artists and it can go bad either way
and you to see, oh, you're to blame.
So niggas ain't going to blame you like a Jimmy Iveen
or like a...
Birdman or a...
No, bird man, they're going to blame you.
I'm talking about, but if you're like a Jimmy Iveen or one...
They're going to blame the white people.
They ain't, no Lucian Grange's...
Yeah, they're not going to blame Lucien Grange's.
They're going to blame them.
that's true because black people always be to blame yeah because any label that's here
and that's because in this year's why because the the labels that are black run or black owned
those labels were made popular in the culture because of bad boys popular because of diddy period
it don't matter who he signed it he is the face of it cash money the face of cash money is bird man
the face of no limit was master p so when you attach there's no face attached to sony
Warner, brother, Electric, priority.
Those are entities.
There's a corporate entities.
We know who run them, but those are corporate entities.
So there's nobody for you to blame.
You can blame your A&R back in the day.
You can blame whoever you're right.
But there's nobody for you to.
But the black companies are led by faces.
They're led by human beings.
So when something goes wrong, you point at the human being
versus point at the label itself.
So that's why that shit happens.
That is true.
I remember that's a good point.
Those are the faces to all the labels.
Yeah.
D with Rough Rider, 50 with G unit, Jay with Rockefeller,
Did he were bad boy.
He's absolutely right.
Yo, I just watched the Michael Jackson movie.
I checked it out yet?
No.
No, that shit was dope, man.
Yeah, yeah, I ain't marched on a fucking Michael Jackson movie, man.
I ain't got time for them.
I'm sitting here with Uncle Murder and 20 fucking shit.
My man has been on this right here.
I'm like, laser focused.
So I heard that the movie came out, you know what I'm saying?
But I never gave it no motherfucking thought.
My thought process was Vlad TV.
Shout to Vlad.
No jumper.
No jumper.
And Ray Street Stars and mafia and all that.
The real report?
All of that.
Stay cheese.
You did stay cheese?
No, but me and Sean, we've been talking.
It's going to happen.
Shout to Sean Con.
Shout to State Cheese.
You need to get me a murder on that too.
Yeah.
So my focus has been on that.
My fault, I'm not thinking about no movie.
No.
So explain to people how you got yourself like viral on it.
Yeah, because I'm just, I'm, I'm a, I'm a keep a real.
He just, um, he just put me on to you like, you know, this dog-faced nigga is
viral.
He speaks his mind.
I mean, speaking of mind.
So, yeah, how does.
He say what the fuck you want to say that's about, man, with you, man?
Well, so the whole thing is, so it's not an overnight thing like people would think.
It's always some day or there being.
So I started podcasting the city of Detroit.
Before me, there was none.
I started podcasting in 2011.
I'm the first person to ever do.
urban podcast and before me there was done.
The only examples I had it where the podcast was
or what this shit looked like, what it should sound like,
is the Rush Limbaugh show in Howard Stern, right?
How about had an internet radio show in 2010 and 11
called Unleashed and then Unleashed Reloley
when I doubled back with the motherfucker.
And then my partner, my man, Sessions,
who was the one who convinced me to go there
to radio, internet radio to begin with, right?
He said, listen, man, we gotta put a visual to that
because YouTube was like going crazy.
2010-11 and shit with the MTV shit
So like man we just to film this shit
And slap this shit on YouTube
So we take it from just internet radio
From just what you can hear
Because radio internet radio
Was always limited
You know what I'm saying
Because you can't listen to the shit in your car
Exactly
You know what I'm saying
So he's like man
Let's film our
It was coming on every Thursday
From 5 to 7 p.m
It was filming this shit
And slap it on YouTube like it's a YouTube video
Like word
Yeah let's do it
And we did it
That was 2011
So I've always been, and when I say podcast, I mean in a radio room style situation where we talked about current events, whatever's going on in the world of entertainment, religion, or politics.
I'm talking about it all, right?
And then we are, and then we, I'm interviewing people and then we just talking about whatever's going on in the world.
Not just Detroit, but just in the world of hip hop and the world of media, whatever the case may be.
We filmed that shit and slapped their motherfucking joints on YouTube on the first motherfucker to do that.
So the first time Ice Wear Vezzo, as you mentioned him.
Yeah, IceWed.
The first podcast he was their own was mine.
Oh, okay.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
So the first time, motherfucker, I made that shit sexy.
You know what I'm saying?
I made that shit hip.
I made that shit like, yeah.
Because niggas wasn't stunt, no motherfucker internet radio, bro.
But to be able to come down and sit and talk the dog face, we pop shit.
And I film it and we put it on YouTube so it's like a fucking music video.
I'm the first person to do that.
So I've always been, I'm a cancer.
So I've always been a shit.
shit talking shit popping ass nigger, you know what I'm 50?
Oh, you crazy.
That's why you crazy like that.
I've always been a penny-nay.
Now, I've never been afraid.
That's why he acts like, yo, that's why this nigger's crazy, man.
You know the vibes, 10-cancer, baby.
You are 50, a get along.
This nigga, y'all can't see.
You're happy now.
I just, I've never been.
So the whole thing is when I see something, and, you know, it, it, I pass out with anger and
frustration, bro, but I see some hope shit.
You know what I'm saying?
If you do it over there, I don't give a fuck.
But if you around me, if me, listen, if me and you, if me and you cool,
And if we cool, if we, if we lock up, I'm never going to do no whole shit to you.
Never.
No, I'm never going to say nothing bad about you.
And it's a southern saying that says, my, my tongue is in my friend's mouth.
That ain't knows, right?
That's a certain.
I don't give a fuck.
What's saying?
Because we don't change that saying.
It's still a pause.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't think the self is happy.
Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes from now.
Yeah, I don't know.
And what it means metaphorically speaking is that even in my absence, she just, she niggas
got this shit bad nowadays.
Even in my absence, I'm going, even in your absence, I'm going to represent you like
you, the shit that come out my mouth is going to be the shit that I know that you would
say about yourself.
If you're a politician and you're trying to avoid shit, I'm going to speak like, I'm, what
I say is what you say.
If I know murders on some, nigger what?
Fuck you, nigger.
And I'm like, nigger, nigger what?
Fuck you, nigger type of shit.
So the whole thing is, bro, it's not a, it's not a thing.
in my nature. It's, it's, it's, the music business, the world of entertainment is full of
fuckery. Oh, I know that. It's jampacking the fuck shit. The music business and entertainment
business is more cutthroat than the street. Oh, of course. I trust a nigga selling cracking
hair around for I trust a nigga who's, who's aiming and thirsty to be a star. Because
a nigga will clamp on your motherfucking back. You can help a nigga, you can put money behind
a nigga. You can do everything for a nigga. And a nigga would see a nigga. And you're a
whole ass dick and you're a whole ass dick and you're diss at the third. You most risk.
is this nigga in the world.
So when you get into the world of entertainment, bro,
it takes you a milliseph-it-you-a-nano-second to realize,
oh, this is a bitch-ass nigga right here.
You might not say it.
You know what I'm saying?
When 50 embraced you in the world of, let's go, nigga, right?
How long did it take you to,
when you get to the board rooms
and you get around these on tour,
you get to singing these rap niggas?
How long did it take you to say yourself,
how long it takes you for you to call 50?
And he said, this, you got to, this.
But me, we came straight from the street.
So I never thought we was gonna get to the level we was on.
Like I was fucking with 50 when he was on Columbia.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So he the first nigga, you know, fly to Cancun.
Just me and him to do a song, Rowdy, rowdy.
So that was my first time leaving the hood.
So all I know is the hood and music.
How long did it take you once you got into it,
once you sign a joke, when you ink your deal?
How long did it take you say yourself?
Oh, this is some bitch ass shit.
I knew before I signed to death.
Yeah.
You know what I said?
I do, I do.
So that's like.
I'm looking at life like that.
I'm looking at, listen, it's so much flawed shit.
I don't expect them.
I really, I'm really, I really truly.
So listen, as a cancer, I'm like, I ain't like, I'm a cancer cancer.
I'm just the last 16th.
I'm on that.
I'm, as soon as you, you do one.
Listen, I'm alive right now.
Only because my cancer, my cancer intuition.
It's a cancer thing.
We have a thing up here.
We have a thing up here, right?
Right?
He locked it.
We have a thing up here.
We have a thing right here.
As cancers, right?
And I don't know what nobody else got.
But I know as cancers, we got some shit right here.
I'm only still alive.
I'm a robber or two, like by trade.
I start robbing at 12.
So what you went to jail for that?
17 robbery.
No, I went to jail at 21.
21.
I was a robber.
I'm a robber by trade.
But she was robbed, when you did that 17, what you...
Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob.
I never liked that for dope.
I called my first dope case in the penitentiary.
Oh, so this shit was violent, so you just threw more time, more time.
Yeah, yeah.
As a cancer, getting up or you went to the straight 17?
No, I did 17 straight years when I got to the penitry.
He said cancer's a prone to us.
Yeah, we were genetically predisposed to being violent motherfuckers.
You play with the cancer only so much and you can expect the violent reaction.
I don't get fucking how well, kind of like, we don't get fuck how well groomed and how we
You go, you keep fucking around.
No much, no matter how much we laughing, Joe.
Yeah, we laugh at your ass, you know what I'm saying?
You keep fucking, you keep fucking around.
You know what I'm about Aries though.
We're wild too, but that do sound like 50-1.
Fire and water.
I'm surprised there's the issue.
See, with Aries, I'm gonna hang up on you.
You call me, you get to do it, because Aries can't control themselves.
They, they, they, they, you are the, you are the, the leader of the Zoliac.
And you are a ram, you will ram right into a nigger.
Jim, I'm looking at the shit with y'all in Jowroon.
Yeah, fuck.
I look at a see him J'Rourn Airplane.
And the niggas throw his shit.
He's back in the head.
I'm like, what the fuck?
No, nigger's throw we's the bullies.
Hey, listen, listen, listen.
Nigger's grown as fuck and see a d'nig start throwing spitballs.
You know what I realized? Like me coming, like being in the industry,
I just realized like 50 had beef for everybody.
We had beef for everybody.
Yeah, you're never going to win.
Never.
So I was so used to being in a rap and a car car car car.
Like we never fucked with no rappers.
I have rappers friends.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
We've in a cocoon for so long that now we friends with certain rappers, it still feels
a little odd.
It's still weird.
You wait for them to break down on you, ain't you?
Yeah.
You wait for them, you went for TMZ to say, we heard a phone call and so-and-so was saying something
about...
Niggas ain't cool no more.
Niggas ain't cool no more.
That's how it is the world of podcasting too.
Beware because it's an open-air competition, right?
And it shouldn't be because there's no limit.
But that's life.
Life is competition.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Everybody want to be the best at what they doing.
I think, I think, that's true.
Listen, I read a book called A Arda Not Giving a Fuck.
I'm actually reading that book now.
Thank you.
And after that, it changed my life because I don't really care whatever people is doing.
I care about what I'm doing.
That's because you get your own motion.
Right.
Right.
So, listen, caring.
There's a formula that's not caring.
Right?
The formula that's not caring is access and money.
When you have access and money
it's easy to not to care
because you don't get
it's an equation
I never look at it like that
it's like advice
access and money
access to shit
right
you ain't got no access to shit
you ain't you caring
you caring on some shit
you care about what a nigga say
you care about what a nigga do
but listen
when I this is a light
I learned
I got some motherfuck of money
when I ain't had no money
I was caring
everything matter
when I got so
when I was able to
go to a jury store or go to Saxon Avenue.
And I went, I went, when I stopped here, when I went in Saxford Avenue, I spent
25,000 on just this, I ain't even looking at no shit.
I ain't know it's $25,000, so I got to the motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
One, boop, woo, woo, woo, no, money, power.
When I moved my family from this to that, when I built a house from the ground up and
I said, no, I won't, I don't want that, I want this molding.
Right.
As I started thinking that, so when I be hearing shit, like from, I don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck.
I got boat, slingshots, jet skis, and you over here talking about some shit and you stay on,
what's one of the worst streets in your hood right now?
I would say, you say, I would say so many.
Just pick one when they're still fighting the way out of it.
I'll say one three, four, God Brewer.
Okay, right there.
So you don't necessarily give a fuck about what the motherfuckers are one, three, four talk about right now.
Nah.
It ain't much they can say to you.
You know what I'm saying?
They're gonna like, like, nigga, I don't, what?
Oh, he said something about you.
Yeah, yo, nigga, in 1991, you, somebody stepped on your, blah, blah, like, what?
Like, what?
My first time eating caviar, crem dulae, it was hitting, murdered and try it.
I did you try it?
I did try it.
It was red caviard.
It was popping.
It was popping.
We were you being hearing his shit.
When he's talking about, I'm eating stuff quail.
But you know what's crazy about it though?
Yeah.
He don't be lying.
Yeah.
I'll be there.
I'm telling him, it's smear in the horizons.
We had caviar.
I love crim duly.
Cremdoulet is always hitting, but I never had it with caviar.
It was Ray Caviore.
What's the name of the restaurant?
Um, a pie steak, poppy steak.
Poppy steak.
Poppy steak.
Oh, it might be poppy steak.
Listen.
I think it's in Vegas.
It's in Vegas.
And we're in the fountain blue.
Now look.
I've been a poppy.
Matter of fact, I'm going to send you out of footage of the caviar.
I got the footage.
The caviar.
I'm going to see all the footage.
Cremdule.
I never had it.
That she was hitting.
I never had nothing like that.
To me, it's like, and then we're chilling in the room.
Here comes Pat McCaffee.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, shit.
Murder's like, oh, shit.
Because, you know, he stay on you.
I stay on YouTube.
He stay on ESPN.
Yeah.
So, oh, shit, Pat McGavy.
So I was just there.
Yeah, we was at the Falmouthville.
I was just there.
Because the 50 do club live in there.
You said Palm Blue in Vegas?
Yeah, Vegas.
I stay at the Fountain Blue.
Oh, yeah, that's when we say that.
Yeah, no, I believe.
We don't think you caping big dog.
Next time we're out there because 50 got like a residency there, so we pop out there all the time.
So listen.
So listen, you were at Poppy Steak.
That bill was hefty, right?
It was hefty as a motherfucker, right?
Oh, no, it's $3.99 for us, you know.
I guess you.
But that bill, the average motherfucker ain't going on Poppy steak.
Oh, no, they give him 50 that.
They ain't going to poppies, right?
So you saw all I saw on poppies was motherfuckers.
They put the steak in the suitcase for $1,000, a thousand-dollar steak.
Better believe it.
In the suitcase.
They come out with the lights and shit right there.
So I'm sitting there.
So this is about a month ago when I was in that bitch.
And then motherfuckers played for the NFL, walked there to me like, man, you do all the face.
I'll be watching you.
You'd be tripping.
You be off the hook.
How are you too, baby?
To my point, right?
Like, we could have ran into each other poppy steak.
What do I give a.
Fuck, it's money and access.
I don't give a fuck about what you're going.
Why they say you'll be tripping, dogface?
Who you be tripping on, man?
Who you got beef with in the industry, man?
Everybody, man.
I don't know.
I'm going to be people with.
You name them.
You name it.
If you're a whole nigger, I don't like you.
Oh, man.
So that's it.
That's what that's 99% of these niggas.
You say how he feels.
That's what, I think that's what it is.
Like, you see what I show?
We talk about what we want to talk about.
A lot of people stay away from it.
Like, I'm, I'm asked.
dogface, how do you feel about Megan and Clay breaking up?
Because I felt Clay was a square and she was like a nice Southern girl that was,
you know, wild...
She's a whore.
I don't do that.
Shout out to Megan.
You know, I'm just saying.
He'll ask me no question, me.
You know, he made politically correct today.
I mean, I didn't say.
I understand why you're doing that to make, man.
Why are you going to do that back to me?
You don't ask me no question.
You don't say.
You just stop this shit right now.
You know, let's say.
Because if you ask you a question, that's a ho.
That's a whore with an ER-H-H-O-E-R.
It's a whore bag.
You know what she's a hoarer.
Why?
Why?
Why do you say, why you say?
Why you say that about Meg?
She's a horror bag.
Look at her behavior.
She didn't have rat on Tory Lane's and all that shit she did.
I ain't no g-sh shit she did.
I ain't no g-g shit about it.
But that all got nothing to do with being a whore.
I heard the rap-ups.
You heard the rap.
You heard the rap.
You've found out.
But that don't got nothing to do with being a whore.
Okay.
A whore is what a whore does.
I mean because she rated.
If she's radded because of a situation.
Oh, she's all that.
But that don't mean she's a whore.
Okay, so listen.
Watch her a girl.
Watch this.
Watch this.
She's a fucking whore.
Oh, my God.
She's a piece of shit.
She's the worst kind of bitch you can ever have.
She's the bitch that your mama and granny and your auntie warns you about.
That's the kind of bitch that bitch is.
That bitch ain't shit.
Damn.
That bitch ain't shit.
That bitch ain't shit because the bitch are a star, a bitch, a rapper.
If we edited this is because of Rock Nation.
I ain't mad.
Hey, this Rock Nation.
These are these opinions.
These opinions are the big of me.
Look at us back there like season.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
These are opinions of me.
Yeah, yeah.
I like Megan, yo, listen.
I think I think I should do that.
That pussy probably good, though.
And I think that break up, I think this breakup going to have her come out with some dope of music.
Yeah, because, you know what, she's like Mary Jay.
Mary Jay made her best shit when shit was fucked up.
for her when she was and getting in case she and jojo wasn't when it was she made her best music
it's pain music but she but this is how we look at it right marriage day first three albums
pain see you see when you look when you were artists you public property right you are but like you just
like you said you she's a whore like that you have like murder said you yeah i did i had to say
but she's public property right they can't listen when i look at her overall behavior when i look at the
shit with troy lanes about her being mad because the other bitch is fucking niggins
And also other kinds of you swapping off shit, you're fucking off.
And you're doing all kinds of shit.
You're letting your emotions leave you because you're mad because he fucking this
and that bitch and that bitch and nothing about that.
If that bitch wasn't a star, you would be saying, if she wasn't a star and she found herself
in and she found herself in, this was some hood shit, you would be saying, I ain't fucking
with that bitch.
That's got too much going on.
If she wasn't a star, she, we got to separate the star shit.
Because that's why young black boys and young black girls across the country are so
fucked up now because they have bought into this because I am a star because he is this,
he is that you're not, you know, nigga, you steal a human being.
I don't judge no nigga according to him being no star.
I don't, when I go, I can be in the room.
Yeah, both of y'all are stars.
We sitting here kicking it like, and I know who both of y'all are like, I was in pay attention
to listening to fucking, gee, I was listening.
I'm watching, I'm watching y'all while and out.
I'm watching y'all.
I'm watching this shit.
I ain't know.
I'm a fan of him.
Of hip hop, bro.
I'm watching when 50 got with M and M basically to flip this foot, go crazy.
Fuck here, everybody.
But we shouldn't give Megan her prouts for her success?
Yes, you absolutely should because as black people, as black people, McDonald's deals,
Sprite deals, you know what I mean?
You got all kinds of.
Rock Nation is doing a lot for her.
For her, she's successful.
She's successful, black woman in the business.
We got to give it out.
You're trying to force your thing at all.
No.
I mean, any, any, she's a successful, black woman in the rock nation's doing.
Edin, look up her deals to me, please.
Oh, no, she has what?
She's, she has what?
She's not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying, listen, don't never get a motherfucker's success mixed up with their character.
You're going to be fucked up.
And that's by some.
We don't even really know.
We just putting out the character that we see out there.
One of the reasons why motherfuckers are holding gooshies that standard is because of what we think we know about him.
Right.
What we, we, we judging the correctness of what he just did with Pulish shot.
based on the legend of him.
Well, we just seen the, what's that, the versus.
And he said, take your man up in the battle was over.
That's right there.
Okay, listen.
So that's what we're facing to move.
Right there, nigger, you can never ever, ever.
It's the new you, you're home from prison, you are multi-millionaire, you're doing well,
you've morphed, your health is together.
You're the reason, a lot of these young things out here talking about smoking on the apps right now.
Listen, long before Chicago was talking about smoking the op, putting a nigga in the iPad,
pack he's somebody dig your man's up
and in the industry
put him at the front
of the line so he can say long before
Durrkin buying them was putting the nigga in the
IPAC from 63rd and O block
he was
he was every hood nigga like
niggas didn't listen to Gucci because he was lyrically
he ain't a fucking murder
this nigger is
nigga
some things you don't be lying about
yeah we don't listen to that shit for that shit we listen to him
because he thugging he's a southern thugged
life-ass nigger
You want to believe this story.
It's true.
What story?
Just anybody's story over and rule.
Yeah, you want, that's as a rapper.
That's that, that's that that's right now, more than ever.
There has to be some air believability in the motherfucker's package or you never going to make any music better than I believe it.
I don't believe it.
A nigga want you to be off the edge.
A nigga wants you to be down independent tension with me.
The nigga baby, he got signed.
Not that he wasn't a good rapper after he got shot.
After he got shot.
How many niggas that get shot or.
halfway independent
when you get deals.
They,
the white people
give a niggas
that.
You know what I'm saying?
You want a big
podcast deal?
Let's go to jail.
We come out of this bitch.
Let's have a
fucked up mug shot.
Let's have a fucked up
excuse me.
They have a fucked up mug shot.
Murder,
yeah, yo,
and doggy.
We mop all twisted.
We hair nappy.
You know what?
Glass is broke.
We're going to get a podcast deal.
They're calling.
They love controversies.
They love to see a nigger on the downward spiral,
and they lift you back up and put you out there as if you're the best thing ever.
Why do you think negative energy goes further than positive energy in black community amongst us?
Because there's so much negativity around us, and we see so much failure.
We see so much, we see a constant, we see concentrated failure every day.
You wake up, you grew up, I grew up, and I see failure everywhere I look.
inside your own household
and outside of it, don't be from
straight poverty, because everything
looks good to you. A hot dog
like a motherfucker state when you come from
nothing, you feel what I'm saying? Don't be from
poverty and don't, let's say, you're from New York,
you're from New York, you come out, y'all
from where y'all from, but don't go to
mid-time Manhattan
and see all that shit in Times Square.
Don't look at the niggas
going to working suits and the New York
Stock Exchange and what the fuck
is that? Y'all, I'm
in Tibet that the average motherfucker in New Yorker, the average young Keith from New Yorker,
don't really know what the stock exchange is about.
And they're from New York.
So just imagine the niggas not being from here and that shit being like, no, niggas come to New York in all.
So to answer your question is because there's so much concentrated negativity in a black community,
which is why we attach, we, we, we, we, big meets is a celebrity, even though you got
niggas who wasn't even alive when he was free.
right and what the fuck
that big meets he's not no motherfucking
Adam Clayton Powell
that don't Marcus Garvey
why do you have so many young black girls
and so many black boys
looking up to a motherfucker who's so dope
and if your mom was on dope anywhere in the world
he probably gave him the dope to her
you know what I'm saying
let's keep a G we got to keep shit funky
so I'm not even
condemning him necessarily
but we anybody who's
achieved any measure of success in the hood
right the more we look up to him
no matter how they got it.
We don't give a fuck
he sold crack.
We don't give a fuck
of a nigga's
old hair rod.
They gotta look up
to Bumpy Johnson.
I don't give a fuck
Bumpy was known
for doing what?
Whistling Dixie?
No,
how many,
how many,
how many,
how many,
what's all the mafia
niggas names?
How many rappers
from New York
who never made it
for real for real?
How many street legends
get mafia
Italian mobster's names?
And then look at the history.
I grew up watching school days
so I know
a large segment
of the Italian population
in New York City
don't necessarily get along
and let's fight and leave with land
let's spike leave with land
little Italy ain't the most
inviting place for
little Robert
a little Billy
you know what I'm saying
back in the day
I know how it is now
yeah back in the days
I believe that
you know what it is though
so the whole thing is
we look up to anybody
who has anything
that we aspire to have
or any position
that we aspire to kind of like
put our set
my first hero was
my first hero was Jesse James
That's my first hero
Jesse James
Billy the kid
They smoke your motherfucking boots
Yeah the cowboy movies
Yeah I looked at that shit
Fuck with all the cowboy movies
Yeah yeah yeah
But see now if you rob a nigga
That's frowned upon
You a sucker you can't get no hustle
You a robber
You or you worse or you
Robbers are the bottom of
A nigga a nigga
A nigga a fuck with a scammer
A fuck with a robber
We're at the bottom of the tomb
So I can't
So Jesse James was a bitch-ass nigga
No
Nigger Bonnie clad was hose
They robbed banks and states
That robbery was
That's the American pastime
That's what's the great American way
No
Nick I'm a robber
I never fall off
Huh?
Speaking like a true robber right there
You better hope I never fall off
On my mom listen on my mama
And everybody's mama in this room
If I fall off nigga
I'm robbing
Again
Without thinking about it
You know what I'm the kind of motherfucker.
I can have, I have, I have money.
I still be looking at that nigga like, yeah, nigger.
You lucky.
I ain't got time for that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you was a bitch, I take that from you, you little bitch-ass, nigga.
See?
This is why I have dogface on the show.
I'm surprised you calm today, man.
I'm chilling, man.
I'm getting to know my guy dogface.
Make sure y'all like, share, and subscribe.
And we got to give this away on YouTube.
But now we're going to Instagram with it.
We're going to give this away.
So y'all look out for it.
Y'all stay in the comments.
It's the A.
A.S.ab Rocky.
Oh, man.
He done broke the gift.
It's the A.Sap Rocky, Ray Vans.
Yeah.
So we're going to, instead of YouTube, it's hard to track y'all down.
We're going to go to Instagram, A.Sap, Rocky, Raybans.
So y'all like, share, subscribe, getting them comments.
We're here with Dogface.
It's been a crazy episode.
Yeah.
He went crazy.
We might have to edit a couple of things.
Now, we ain't.
That dogface.
Who else you don't like before we get out of here, Dogface?
Leave him alone.
Leave him alone.
I like who I like.
All right, got you, man.
You know what I'm saying?
If I fuck you, if I fuck, if I fuck, if I don't answer your phone call, I don't like you.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, yeah.
Shout to Detroit, Pontiac.
We ain't gonna get this man started.
He doesn't set a lot of crazy shit.
He's on the run.
He doesn't did Vlad TV.
No jumper.
Now he's on the fucking real report.
Yeah.
Because he's the most controversial dude on the line.
Shout to Dogface.
Shout to Detroit and Pontiac.
Make some noise for Dogface.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Yes, sir.
Good luck surviving the off-season football fans.
At first I was afraid, I was betrified.
Football's over.
It's like a part of me just died inside.
200 days till football's back,
but tonight I won't just cry,
because I've got a waste to play.
And that's the place with hard rock bed,
I will survive.
Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida,
that must be 21 plus and physically present in Florida to wage your terms and conditions apply.
If you are someone you know has a gambling problem, please call 1-833 play-wise.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show.
This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but sell.
So let's get to it.
Listen to the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcast.
And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
On the Look Back at it podcast.
For 1979, that was a big moment for me.
84 is big to me.
I'm Sam J.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we
survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins.
But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.
You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?
I doctored the test ones.
It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern.
Two more men who'd been through the same thing.
Greg, a lesbian,
Michael Mancini.
My mind was blown.
I'm Stephanie Young.
This is Love Trapped.
Laura, Scottsdale Police.
As the season continues,
Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Listen to Love Trapped podcast
on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
When a group of women discover
they've all dated the same prolific con artist,
they take matters into their own hands.
I vowed. I will be his last target.
He is not going to get away with this.
He's going to get what he deserves.
We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Listen to the girlfriends.
Trust me, babe.
On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
