Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Gillie & Wallo on Fake Streams, Max B vs Big Daddy Kane, Peter Gunz being the King of New York, & Jay-Z’s Freestyle

Episode Date: July 22, 2026

Gillie Da King and Wallo267 of Million Dollaz Worth of Game join Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for a hilarious and unfiltered conversation about Boots Ennis vs. Terence Crawford, Philadelphia’s new generation of rappers, fake streaming numbers and why today’s artists struggle to build real fanbases. They debate Max B vs. Big Daddy Kane, react to Jay-Z responding to Drake, Nicki Minaj and Kanye West, call Peter Gunz to discuss the King of New York title, and explain why social media has made everybody act tough. Gillie and Wallo also discuss KO Party, Wallo’s book Yes to You, No to Them, their growing business empire and the lessons they learned coming out of Philadelphia.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, yeah, he's done. He's done. He's done. He's done from New York. That's going to be his next take, man. He said, I can get away with it, digger. He can't get away with it. Nah, he's done. He's done.

He's done. My boy, though, man. You don't get them clear cups from? He didn't want to see now. You don't want a scene out? Back in the days? He wasn't a ice keats. He went to ice cold 40.

Give me don't drink. What? Give me a drink. Are you fucking crazy? I think he drink like a fish. He's picking tools when he wants to drink. But that nigga drinks, man. I know him for just smoking.

Nick, I seen that nigga acting a fool drinking before. I'm a maniac. Maniac. I'm a mania. This probably was about, I'm a little part of 12. I was in a club. I got fucked back in the days. Boy, you was in there Dolo just drunk a fool.

Walking up to every crew in the motherfucker. I remember that shit. Real talk. All right. Real talk. Nigger walking up to everybody by himself, twisted or holy time. I said this nigga is a fooling.

Murder, let me see you on later. By his cell phone. You know what's looking at me crazy. Because my. Why niggas want to talk about this rubber shit still? Oh, what's one we shoot him first? We shoot hours first. We can shoot both for them on the same.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so, we know y'all not the beep shit? We're the beach shit? So, so, no. So, we're we sitting there for these shit. Okay. You know, we swap, we get the middle pole. Yeah, yeah.

That's sound wild. That sounded wild. You're always, you're always. Super pulls. Yo, yo, you know what, you know they. They say, you're saying you and . I know a dude from out of Paubeyland, no Phillies and he's selling your woods.

Yeah, my God, yeah. All the other thing is going steroids. Definitely. I got the gym in the house. I work out 24-7 right now. That's the word. I'm so you recognize. You recognize.

You recognize. You're on steroids, man. Go, start the podcast. Niggas had guts last summer now they all buffed up. You know what time it is. I still got to get. Yale's like, yeah, I peeped that.

Yeo like, I peeped that shit. Shoot the hit, putting that shit in the van. Pobby board from Badland, and North Philly be selling them shit. Your name was on the list, man. From the lands. I think one of our first time was in Philly was with old man Chaz

back in the days. And we went to the bad lands. You'd be smoking that Reggie too. I'll never be smoking Reggie. Both y'all. Y'all too, niggins. The Reggie Kings in New York. We talked about that on y'all show.

The Reggie King's in New York. No Reggie on in your head, digger. That's not allowed. Your man still smoking backward. We smoking paper. Yeah. I smoked that shit burn wrong. Gil, Gil, like that what's name is.

He put that brown and white in this shit. He's a healthy guy, so I thought he would do the paper. Gil put that, put that what's name in it? He liked that snack crack on pop. You all ready? Yeah, it's the talk of New York. And this is the Boy Uncle Murder, aka Led Jet Lidney. And it's the real report show with a million dollars worth a game.

Gillian Wildo, make some noise for the pining. Make some motherfucking noise. Whoa. Oh, we lit right now. We finally back, yo. So we, you know, last time we was on y'all show and now y'all on our show. Appreciate it, man.

Thank y'all for being here. Me and murder learned a lot from you guys. Appreciate you, brothers. And y'all one of the guys that told us, we got to do it. Facts. So we appreciate you guys. We seen y'all was playing around with this shit.

Yeah, like y'all ain't want to do nothing. So for all that don't know. Y'all did tell us to get to it. Y'all told us to get to it. For all I don't know, Gilly was talking mad shit backstage. Like mad shit. So we're going to bring it back. Boots or Crawford?

Boots. Tell us why? Both of y'all. But she was talking shit. No, I'm just telling you why I'd be- I wasn't talking shit. Don't say like- No, you were saying that.

No, you were, you said boots, you said boots came out, out, out his mama into a boxing ring. Yes, that's all I'm saying. But, no, because see, you asked the question, and then, motherfucker felt like I was talking shit. Crazy in the back, what, nigga, Boots? Croftie can't, no, that's not the kid. No, you didn't say not bad about Crawford.

No, exactly. I honestly think, right, if it's anybody, in the world that is, I say it's a 50-50 fight with boots, it would be Crawford. Because Crawford is that good as well. I believe in Crawford skills that much

like I believe in boots skills that much. So, you know what I mean? They both great. I just think boots may be a little bit younger, maybe a little bit more hungrier. Because, you know, Crawford is established already.

You know what I mean? But it would be a great fight. That's what I do. You said how hard he hit, too, right? Yeah, that nigga Crawford's strongest shit and boot strongest shit. But Crawford, uh, you know, we, we, we, we, I don't think he's strength that much. I, you know, I took him down in the wrestling match. So it was like, yeah.

No, nigga, that's because he, I don't listen to that nigga, Wilo, man. It's always footage. It's footage to this. Oh, yeah? He walked in the dressing room. Yeah, he got that. Yeah, he got that. He walked in the dressing room and we won't right at him, you know what I mean.

front. He locked that. Walo had a next jersey on than the Span jersey. Whileo was holding. I saved him. I saved him. I saved him.

He left Gil off there. I had to come through. If it was a different situation, that was the street out of broke. Because I don't know if you go to rass with somebody, they might go grab their joins. So I ain't got time to try to figure out to get to join them. Gil, you can handle that.

I'm out. I'm just being straight. I mean, I'm out. I ain't got time for that shit. Dude is want to be tough. I'm the dude that was a logical street, dude. I ain't want to be tough. Do it about shit for.

I knew how to relocate when the danger strike. Got you. Let me relocate. I don't need to be here, man. Some tough shit go to, you go to, you walk up with a block, do extra extra huffy, talk. You know what? Let me relocate.

I don't need to be here. This ain't even, you know what I mean? I can go eat. I smell some rice and gravy at the crib. I'm out, man. I was one of them dudes that was smart. I know how to relocate when the day. I heard you.

Unnecessary shit. Like, why I got to be here if you want to be tough? And he made up this, right? Because when Dad was calling him a bitch, right? because we was out some young boys walked up there push icey masters all right so he ought to make over there

on some dumb shit cause so he'd go in a damn neff don't I know your motherfuck man ain't your mom Kimberly and all this extra shit right he always work right right I didn't say that

I didn't say her name no see you're lying I didn't say her name because that's the giveaway because it's not the name I'd be like this how you get him damn neff

damn you what's the name son what's the name your mom oh you know my mom he'd say his mom named they're like, yeah, we just go to where she man, how's he been? So now the smoke is clear. But listen. And I

and I give him the death, but what's something else? You know what I told him? You said, bitch, he goes to tell but no, I just know how to de-danger the danger. No, de-escalate the danger. Escalate the danger. Ain't that wrong with that, though. Ain't that wrong with that. You got destabilize the danger. You got destabilize that shit.

See, let me just say this. Like, I just want to be real. I just got to be real. And this is what I be trying to understand. Every dude that I ever know that was super tough, he's a worm hotel now. A what? What do you call? He's a worm motel.

He's a worm motel. Damn. He's a worm motel. All the super tough dudes in the history of life from the gut, they dead or they walk in the yard forever. Yeah, that's crazy. That is true. They got to walk the yard forever.

So my old thing is like, I realize early, oh, it's not necessary for me to be tough. Because there's always somebody that's tougher or if somebody that's going to send somebody that might not be so tough, they got to get you out the way when you're tough in the neighborhood. Somebody is sending somebody to get you out the way. And like, when I see somebody tough these days, I'm like, damn, it's too dangerous to be tough.

The price is low. How much time you did, Wala? A dub. Damn, straight? Yeah, no, yeah, basically. Damn. Yeah. So what would you tell the kids?

Nobody had to get him out the way. No. Police. You did a dub, straight? Who would I tell? Who would I tell? What would I tell who? What would you tell like, you get away from shit?

You see like the kids now music, Ricos, not in Philly, New York, everywhere. These Rikos are coming fast. Police got drones and all this shit now. What would you tell kids to like stay out of trouble? No, I ain't got to tell them that. This is the whole thing. You got two type of cameras, right? You got the camera that's in here, the rain camera, the Whist's name camera, the camera's on the cameras on the cars.

And then you got the homie camera. The homie camera going to tell him. That's the one with the mask on. He don't even want to know you got a mask on. Your homie, it's never been in the history of life, especially right now, you show me seven young cats. I'm showing me 10 young cats that's in the street. I'm going to show you eight and a half that's going to tell. And the only reason the other two can't tell because they're telling on them.

News is going to tell. Like they're not, because soon as mom coming in, you know, interrogation room, because one thing about this thing is always somebody family member that knows somebody to work at the police, yours, your homicide. Keisha, come and talk to you, son. You better, you know how to, you know how to you got to smooth. here detective boy, every neighborhood got one. Listen, man, your mom want to talk to you, man. I'm going to get your five minutes, man. Go ahead and talk to him. He goes out, Keisha, you listen, go ahead. Take that steak

into that little sandwich in there for him, me. I mean, a little cigarette. She's going to there. I can't believe you got it in this. You better tell. You're a good kid. You ain't doing. Mom, he's going to run it down. And then you got the slick detectives that's going to come in there. Man, Gil told him, man. He didn't get you all up. Because that's what they told me when he came in. But I stood down. I already knew he was going to tell, but he gets passed and he was my cousin.

So I never put that out there on the streets because he had the You know what I mean? He had the rap shit going on the house and I ain't going to splash his name. You know what I mean? I ain't going to be Splash Gaw and the splash his name. I did. Go ahead and get that rap money. And he kept it.

Now, I was one time when he's, the money, when the money was slow down, when the rap money order slowed down, I was going to get busy on him. But I ain't had no resource of the source magazine than that. Because that was best before the internet. You couldn't call me like, yeah, that nigga told on me. Because now a nigga called the joint. Yeah, they do the whole joint. And he told on me, man.

And then now I'm going to got him out of the way. But I ain't, you know, I'm going. was like, no, I can't do that. Family. But that's what I'm saying. The best thing you're telling them is, we live in the world, me and Gil talk about this all the time.

Any sign that you need to know that this shit ain't no joke, you didn't got there from your uncle, your pop that's in jail, the old hits ran away. They got every sign necessary. It's like, you had the point now is, though, it ain't nothing you can say.

They got every sign to know jail knocked off or somebody going to kill you. Like, you remember the old is told us back in the day it's a package deal, young blood, you're going to jail or somebody going to put you down. They told us that.

Did I see that what I tell you? I always tell a story. That's crazy. He said, it's a package deal. No, I'm always saying, oh, oh, you out here? I was 11, 12 years old. Oh, you're out here? All right, you better go ahead and put two pairs of draws on, nigger.

Go ahead. Because you're going to get booked, nigga. Or you're going to get booked, if you get booked, nigga, you don't want to be booked with one pair of draws, nigga, you better put two pairs of draws on, nigga. That's crazy. And not still to this day, nigga, you see one right there, one right here. Why are you doing that? He's going to tell her a man.

Oh, man. That's two kids. You're going to tell her name. He's going to tell him a nigga He's going to tell him a nigga anyway. No, you know, Philly. They got game out. Think about this.

That was some of the best shit old hair ever told me. When I got booked, okay, think about this. All them niggas that's behind the camera, they all got one pair of draws on. Guess what? They get booked and they got to stay there

for a minute. Guess who's going to have a fucking jumpsuit on with no fucking draws on? That a smoker was in, a dope fiend was in. Think about it. Yeah, you right there in there motherfucking dude.

Goofeen Johnny was in his bitch shaking, throwing the fuck up. You think about it. No, I always had a pair of draws on. Wash the other joints, hang them up, got some draws on, change him, but he ain't get a fuck. He didn't take showers for two years. That's lying, but you know, you.

You know, that's bullshit. All right, told me some old shit. When you young blood, like me, and you're going in the juvenile facility, soon as you go to the juvenile facilities, they're not giving you no brand newbeians. They give me you wash, because you're going to join, they got the closet.

is all that shit washed. You're lucky if you come on a day where they got some brand new packs. So when we're coming up in young bloods in the juvenile, you were getting some Jones anyway as soon as you come in, but they might be used.

So you're not even thinking about that. Well, O'Head was thinking about that. He did real time. He wasn't thinking about the juvenile joint. He was thinking about the juvenile joint. Yeah, he was thinking about that real. He told me that. I said, all right.

Cleniness. Yeah, but my whole thing is this. He didn't even wear all the rules in jail, man. He's lying. He's funny for the show. That nigga funner for the show. Only reason he got a double journal because he got his depends on.

You know he's 55. You know he's 55. He'd be letting shit go for no reason. He's got to clean him up and shit. That man, put powder on it. Gotta wipe him down. He'd be shit for no reason. Depends.

He'd be smoking blood. Too many pups. He's shit on. I'm like, yo, because you cool? Yeah, I got to change my jaw on. He's in the diaper, man. The fuck out of it. Niggin.

That's the fuck out of it. That's the dick. Gangster. That's some other shit. That's some Philly shit. You're in the old way. So what? That's what, how was it growing up in Philly?

How was it growing up in the Philly? Because I know I went to Philly years ago with fifth with old man Chaz, rest of the beast to him and he took us to the bad lens. And I was like, yo, this shit is crazy. Everybody said that about Philly when they see Philly. No, no, no. That was my first time in Philly. I went to the badlands.

We was walking around and I'm like, oh, shit's crazy out of it. One thing about Philly, Philly. Philly is a super entitled city. Why you say that? Super. Philly is good for blaming other motherfuckers for why they ain't make what they were supposed to make happen. That's one thing I can say about Philly,

we're super entitled. No, if such a such would have been out of here, no, if such and such would it did this for me. No reason why this ain't happening because such a such ain't do this. And last time I checked that, you know, that should be about hard working God. Better believe it.

So, but there's a lot of entitlement in Philly, man. We gotta learn how to let that shit go. Real tall. Hmm. Who's your top five in Philly right now? Rappers? Right now. Right now?

Like, not of all time. Not of all. We can go to all time after. It could be all time. I want to know right now. Might as well. Right now. You're talking about coming up?

Yeah, like going to... Core. You said core? Yeah, Core. Tierra Wack, New York, L.A. New York, LA. Lights and Scrilla.

Yeah, Scurlada. You don't fuck with Leaf Ward, man? Leaf locked up. I know, but he still be talking that year. Yeah, yeah, I know. Leaf ain't dropped nothing in five years. All right, copy. Leaf were one of the...

You said right, right, copy. What about you? I'm gonna say that. I like a young boy, too. He got a song, ah, I don't really know you niggas. Sheriff 7. He likes Surf 7. Yeah.

It's a lot of them. I can't just. Just put five. Yeah. You got Amir, you got Amir Ali. Uh-huh. You got,

uh, Amir Al-Lee, you got, you got tour. You got B-B-3. You got, you got, I don't want to miss nobody.

You go more than five. I just want to know who's the new guys. It's a lot. It's a lot, man. I'm just, little bucks just came home. Oh,

Bucks definitely. Damn. Low Howard. You got, um, there's a lot of them, man. This is too many.

But Philly, I'm going to say this. Philly is a really talented town. Oh, yeah. We know y'all at a house, Homer Spitters, man. You know, y'all spit since the DVD days. It was like, it's like, it's a talented town. A lot of people. I'm missing a few, man.

Yeah, we're missing a, oh, this name now. There's a bunch of all my mission. But all the time now. I know you're going to put Miko in there. Who else? Major figures. State property. Major figures.

My son took it back, baby. Not major figures. Yeah, they came. What? State property, the roots. Yeah, the roots. You gonna put Will Smith on there? Will Smith?

Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince. Yeah, Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince. Definitely. Major Fink, remember that song? Dead Man Walking. Remember that? That was that shit. You could never get a sample. That beat was so hard.

That was my shit. I ain't going to lie. Niggas never sampled that beat right there, though. Like, you could never, like, find an instrumental to it. Do y'all be tapped in with all the young artists like that, right? Just all the artists, period. Do you think artists today really need the radio or like this podcast should take over? You think the podcast should take over?

I mean, I think, you know, if you want to be a star, you know what I mean? You don't need the radio. I think if you want to be a superstar, okay. You need the radio. Difference. You need everything. You got streaming stars and you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you. And you got radio star.

The radio star, everybody know who that person is. They don't know the streaming star. Because a lot of times you can be streaming big. And see, you see, the radio was, the radio really could get it out there on another level. Because the streams, because the streams a lot of times could be bots. You can't bot the radio. Right. Like a lot of people got fake streams.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, you could pay for play on the radio too. No, no, no, no, no. But this one I'm saying. Your shit really getting played. You shit really getting played. A bunch of real, I mean, a bunch of a bunch of, a bunch of, I mean, a bunch of It's a real audience.

On the bot's shit won't be getting played. I know what you mean. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so, so, like, the bot game has got so crazy. It's crazy. You got bots for everything.

Hmm. You got bots for music. You got bots for, uh, views. You got bots for podcasts, uh, downloads. You got bots for every. It's bots everywhere. Yeah, we're not doing no bots.

I ain't saying y'all is. I'm just saying. It's bots for everything. Gotcha. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you got people out here now. And I remember one time

me and Cousin the studio having the conversation. He was like, Cus, what sense do it makes that you have bots on your music? And nobody's listened to your music, so that means nobody can really book you for a show. Nobody, no promoter is looking and saying, oh, he got this many views.

Oh, they're not doing that to book you for no show. No booking agents, hard ticket, you know, hard ticket booking agents is not saying, oh, does book, no. That shit got to be real because when they put that link in your book, see, the only thing that really matters, is the link in the bio. Can you sell tickets? That's it. Can you sell tickets? Can you sell merch? All that, how many Instagram followers you got? How many what's the name? Because

it would be a dude that got 10,000 out? Yo, that's Reggie too, man. I know what it is, man. That's not no fucking Reggie. That's not like, that's my name. That's smoking New York Reggie, man. He don't even smoke. He don't even smoke. I'm been around some of the greatest smokers in the world. Go ahead, man. He's smoking in Africa. Go ahead. That's cat pee. Go ahead. He would have an Argentina jersey on if they were. That's Spain. He is.

He switched up. No, I said if they were to won, he would have an Argentina. You better believe it. I had to go talk to the team before the game. But listen, what I'm saying is this. This is what I'm saying, though. You, like, all that shit, you don't have a dude, there's no bullshit. You'll have a dude, a young artist.

He might got 10,000 followers or say he got 30,000 followers. Then you might have an artist that got 5,600,000. They can't put 500 people on. in a venue and five, six venues. Think about it. You already know this. This is how I be paying attention to artists. This is paying attention.

And y'all know this. All three of y'all know, because I was in jail, but y'all know the route. If you truly hot on the East Coast, and this ain't me saying it, they're going to back me up. If you're truly hot on the East Coast,

you're supposed to be constantly booked from Boston all the way to Virginia. Y'all know that route. Think about this. Think about it. Think about how many, all three of y'all know that route. And let me break it down even more, because I've seen it. Let me break it down even more.

This is how I go. You go from Boston, Connecticut, all that shit. New York, you're getting bookings. You're getting bookings all through Jersey. You're getting bookings all through PA. You're getting bookings all through Delaware. You're getting bookings, Baltimore or Maryland. They're going to be, you notice you never see none of these dudes killing them towns?

You notice you never see anybody booked? So when I see you, you. And you talking all this, I'm like, no, you got neighbor. See, you got, see, you got different type of artists out here. You got the neighborhood artist. The homie, the homie artist. All your homie say you, no, no, you got the homie artist. All your homie say you hot.

Homie artists. No, the homie artist is, all your homie say you hot. They bump your shit. And they go and tell everybody that they run into. He's the hottest in the city. He the hottest in the city. But nobody else is saying that. Right.

But the homie, you got, do you got the neighborhood artist. We go to the neighborhood byabini, but he can't cross over to the next neighborhood. Then you got the multi-neighborhood artists where he's popping in multi-neighborhoods then you got a city artist where everybody is playing him and everybody is bumping him but I'm gonna tell you what happened

with this rap shit and nobody wanna talk about it. This will happen. When me and Gil was growing up, right? Prime example, right? There's no bullshit and Gil can attest. And even back in the day,

it might have been 15 rappers in Philly. City of, like at that time it probably was the fifth largest city in America, Right, 15, right? The problem is everybody think they could rap, so this is how it goes. We all from the same neighborhood.

The only motherfucker really can rap is Gil. Say he the one that really can rap. But for some reason, you want to start rapping, I want to start rapping, I want to start rapping. And it's worse when we're in the crew, we don't decide to come together. So now it's worse. So now this is how to go. This is how they break down the fan base. Gil really could rap.

But my baby mom, my sister, my direct homeboys can't post them because they got to post me because I rap, but he's really good rap. Same thing with him. Same thing with him. Same thing with anybody else. These dudes can't even get the momentum no more they used to get because when you with that boy, the whole neighborhood back behind you. They got your shirts. They got your logos. Like, dudes don't even create logos no more. They don't even create movements. People want to be a part of a movement when you're doing music. But they can't be a part of a movement. They can't choose one because they got in the neighborhood is five different dudes that rap. And I can't, I can't hold, I can't represent his shit because my cousin got to be

baby by you. So I got to be around with you or you're going to be mad. Or she going to be mad. Nicking, you ain't even even though holding him down. And everybody believes that rap is the way out even when they home is corny. And they're telling them to, no, no, no, no, because that's the way everybody wants to be close to fame. And even knowing that Gill is the one, anybody weakening it. So now we weaken his support. So we can't even push him out of the neighborhood to push him through the city to push him out of the city because the same thing that's going on in our neighborhood is going on in 20 other neighborhoods in Philly, 20 other neighborhoods in New New York. So now you got out of the

20 neighborhoods, it might be 20 hot niggas, but instead of 20 hot niggas, it's 400 niggas that want to wrap. So now it's like... You said 400. No, straight up. Straight up, bro. Straight up. And nobody wouldn't say that because we live in this fake world in the black community where it's though,

if you tell somebody they're corny and they're really corny, you tear them down. No, no, no. You're tearing the brother down. He's trying to tear his dreams down. You know, we grow up, me, you can say that. And the motherfucker would be like, damn, it is. Yeah, let me go back to the drawing board. You can't. You can't Do that now. You can't, so it's like, so it's like,

so it's like, well, you can't even establish a fan base because everybody want to be a fucking rapper. And it's like, that's true. And this is what they're saying. A motherfucker's, like, yeah, oh, you really can't rap. Motherfucking would be like, well, what's the name made it? He did it. He had the machine behind him.

Motherfucker had a button on him. The motherfuckerucker pushed the button on him. Of course he made it. He probably was a plant. But they always want to try to get an example of a trashed that made it. So they say, if he was trash and he's made it, I can be, they ain't going to say they can be trash.

I'm better than him. But they don't want to put the work and they don't know the routine. They don't know the promo run. It's a problem too. Let me get one of the waters, man. Right. If.

Niggas bull's stuff. Why I'll blow up now, nigga? That's how we're going to be next year. If we get them checks, they get. If you got a bunch of box on your shit, right? That motherfucker out of my whiz. That reggie. He know that reggie.

You know he'd have a bad weed. His homie shout to the unit. You don't smoke. That redgie. He got out of here. He gets hard right now. Yeah, smoke that bad weed cause cat piss. Wild old high bitch right there.

We got more Donhuli? Yeah, it's more Donaulay. What you about them about them box? With the bots, right? If we're putting bots on your shit, right, and we faking the shit, right, how we know what we really doing? Real talk. Facts. Real talk.

See, when we went in, and shout out to our partners, you know what I mean, Epic, when we went into Epic to do our deal, our artists was already yet a few million. he had a few million monthly listeners. Wow. So when they run, when they run a through, oh, it ain't no bots on this shit. Real shit. They got the machines.

They got the machines in the labels. This real shit. In the podcast distributors, got the machines. Ain't no bots on this shit. This shit, real numbers. You feel me? So it's able,

it's easy to do a deal with somebody because you got proof of concept. You got real numbers. You feel what I'm saying? So if you think you're going to fake it to me get it exactly yes it's all good throw that shit man you think you gonna figure to make it you ain't gonna get it ain't gonna happen for you it's not think about it so so so

y'all got to understand this y'all got to understand this if you think about the game the music game right right everything that was popping that got y'all on is gonna be the next wave to get people on we're missing the promo run we're missing the uh street team we had the street team in the end store people, the new end store is different. The end store is, you remember how he's had the record store, tile records and all the mom and pops? That's not where you do it no more. You do the in-stores.

So, prime example. If I'm an artist and I'm doing my thing, I'm getting the posters. Because you remember, motherfuckoldies, you had a poster. Labels, get your posters designed. You all ain't had to give up, and probably somebody come and buy the tape. Or they won't even buy the tape, but just be a promo run. Right. It'd be like this.

You got it. The new in stores is the streetwear stores. You know, all the streetwear stores, but they saw it. That's where you do. the in stores now when you do your promo run and you got to do a promo run. Y'all remember now the labels don't even have nobody. This is what the labels had. The labels had somebody that when you're doing your promo or say if you running from

Boston to Virginia, every stop, they take you inside their community and they knew the way and they knew the people to make sure you got a picture with to make sure you was in a barbershop, to make sure you went to the sole food spot, to make sure you got some sneakers from here. They don't got that no more. That is true. So you got artists running around and they just going in the city's naked. They don't got no liaison. Nobody's saying, damn, I got him.

Because, you know, a motherfucker will be like this. You'll come through, a motherfucker come through Philly or whatever town, and you'll take that picture on somebody block, deep as shit when Nick, damn he was down there. And it's like a stamp. It's like a stamp. We support you, you family when you come through here. You're right.

You family, we got you. You remember you go to a dude town. You go to a dude town to be like this. Take your most famous restaurant in the town, shit like that. And you go to. You get in cold sound. They put your picture up and everybody's seeing it and buying your album. And you go on the radio and you meet and all kinds of other people and you got to meet

and greet at radio. Come on, Gilly, you remember all that shit. And back then it wasn't no bots. Niggas had to go to FI. Yeah, to deal with people. Yeah. Go sign fucking CDs and tapes and all that shit. She was a whole different era.

Do you know how many, you got to think about this? That actually was, I felt like that era was better. I had fun doing that shit. Because, FYE and all that shit, sign a CD. Guess what? Y'all was more out there. A motherfucker would do it, John. I didn't talk to artists directly, right?

from New York that was coming up, Youngcast and I'd be like, you're on the clock. He'd be like, what's your mean on? You do one more motherfucking show in New York. You do one more back in a little alley. You do one little alleyway back door lounge joint, you're done. You think you're popping and you're not. I ain't see you in Baltimore yet.

I ain't seen you in a VA yet. You're on the clock. You better get out of New York and you're going to die here. And I'm not talking about physically die. I'm talking about dudes that be hype. Like, I didn't see artists hype in like cities. And I'd be like, especially New York. A motherfucker would be hype because in New York,

They keep moving in Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island, Holland, Harlem. Because what happened in New York is you keep getting fake bookings. The fake bookings is a nigga just want to book you to say he brought you through. You got a promoter who's got some money. Yeah, let me book you, man. Let me get him 15th out. It ain't no hard tickets. It ain't no proof of booking.

You ain't got shit. It's just you got 15 different promoters in New York that just want to book a nigga to say, yeah, I brought shorty through. You know what I mean? Son word to life. And that's it. So a dude to wake up. Son word to life. Son word to life.

So I'm a dude. That's all the mother. That's all the life. I'm saying, I made it up. I'm from Brooklyn. So listen, that's been Brooklyn, right? St. John's Eutica. That's why you're living at.

So, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, that's why have you noticed, this shit getting anybody out the way. Let me tell you something. This shit getting A by out the way. Right now, we're in the phase if you're all paying attention. You got a bunch of motherfucking real hip-hop boys

picking money. You got to think about it. It's a fan base from 12. 24 to 45, right? Think about this. You got a bunch of young cats that like original hip hop, right? Outside of you got a bunch of, when you've just seen the show, right? Think about it.

Y'all tour around the world with 50. And when y'all see there, you all see a demographic of people who wasn't being serviced. Why do you think anybody was in New York last week for hoover? You know why? You got a bunch of people that love the music, but they ain't got nothing to listen to because nobody is servicing them with that form of hip hop no more. So right now is wide open. That is wide open

I told Kiss this years ago I was telling kids I said man you can't abandon To the locks Don't abandon your fan base You all bandied the fan base So now they just sitting around like this Motherfuckers at home

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No, you was wrong about the Big Daddy King shit, though. No, he was Whit King. He was Whit King. He was not on my watch. He can't do that. Oh, all right, cool. Max B was bugging for you. Listen, that's cool.

I thought y'all was wrong. My fault. No, it wasn't us. Why? You got had it. No, I thought she was on Big Daddy King's side and he was like kind of more on. He said what? Max B.

No, no, he wasn't on Max B side. No, what I said was. Max B was just talking. What I said was. What I said was. What I said that. Okay, first of all, Max B says. He loved, he said he loved, he loved Kane.

He said he loved Kane five times. No, he said that on the show. I love Kane. I love Kane. What the conversation came from was Max B had did an interview at Complex and they named the top 50 rappers in New York. And Max B wasn't on the list. So he looking at this shit like this nigga and this nigga in front of me and this

niggins. So he felt some type of way, which you allowed to feel some time. Oh, that's correct. No, definitely. I understand. You feel me? What I said is we should salute Max B for making Kane relevant in the eye of the public and social media.

Definitely. Definitely. They went viral. Because at the end of the time. Because he had a lot of people that had to speak up now. At the end of the day, right? You brought all of these older motherfuckers, all of these dinosaurs out of woodwork.

Dinosaurs. To give, to give, the give, no, for real. Why do you got to call them niggins dinosaurs? Yeah, dinosaurs see you bugging out. Don't act like we ain't old niggins. Ain't that wrong with it. You feel what I'm saying? Okay.

So what I'm saying is they came out to give cane his flowers to take up for cane, to speak up for cane. But they wasn't doing that shit two weeks ago. It seemed like wildo fuck with the old school more. Gil always said that Gil said, wow. He fucked with the old school. No, let me finish what I'm saying. Like, Brian Kim, Bigger.

Daddy Kane. Hold on my god, let me get this point. I want to get this point out. Go ahead. Now, Kane is all in the social media. He's taking over Twitter. I'm X. He's taking over Instagram.

He's got niggas doing freestyles and shit. Right. This is the flowers that he should have been getting. But it took for Max B to wake motherfuckers up to give niggas them flowers. It's, it, hold on. We, y'all want to say here and name another 100 legends just that's from That niggas don't talk about. That niggas ain't talking about.

Lord finesse. But sometimes it's the way you talk about it. Come on. But sometimes it could be the way you talk about him, right? Because Kane like family to me and I fuck him, I'm saying. But he was a little, it could have been taken as he was a little disrespectful when he mentioned it. Okay. What I'm saying is, right, the way he delivered it was beautiful because it got the people's reaction.

If he would have said, I mean, I love Kane, I just don't know if Kay, it wouldn't It wouldn't a win. So the way he's coming a liberty, people needed something to the bill. You know what you were a thousand percent. You need something to fill some way to help. But when you look at Big Daddy Kane, you could say he got five championship rings in hip-hop.

Because there's rings. Like some niggas would be like, well, a nigger ain't really valid to say that if he don't got that. Can I say this? Hold on. Certain niggas ain't valid. Certain rappers are not valid to say certain things if they don't got a championship ring. Like a nigger could be like,

yeah, a whack or G-U-N-Wack. But we got champion. Championship rings. Multiple. Listen, a lot of niggas ain't qualified to say certain shit, like about a cane or certain niggas if they don't got a championship ring. That's how I look at him about. Because a lot of rappers...

Who? Huh? Let me say it. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying... Let me say this. Let me say this. Hold up with that.

Is Max be qualified to speak on K? Do we up there feel like his Max gets... Not with a nigga with multiple championship rings. Oh, let me just say this. Let me say this. Put it like that. And I am a representative. Him and Rakim got like multiple championships.

I'm the union rep of legendary classical hip hop. I'm the union rep. Let me say this. Let me just say this. Let me just say this. Let me say this. Now, I understand what you're saying, right? But I'm going to say this.

Any legend, right? Any legend, they don't have no motherfucking problem being called out. Because the hip hop that we was, we was dealing with. hip-hop before it was in the hip-hop phase now whereas though if you say something or you challenge oh you hate and a nigga wanna shoot you a nigga mad nigger in their feelings. Like you gotta think about it. You gotta think about it. Our whole

culture is a feeling culture. If you call somebody out of boxing, motherfucker and they feelings and y'all have to fight. If you if you dissing a motherfucker-knie, you ain't hotter to me, oh, you was a hated. Now I ain't by any feelings. That's not what this shit is about. Listen, this is what hip-hop is about. It's about

battling. It's about being It's about MCing. It's about DJing. It's about graffiti. It's about like even when it even. Beach Street, man. We came up with that. It's about breakdancing.

But what I'm saying is this is what I'm saying, because if I think I'm better than Gilly or if I don't think Gilly that, I can't say that because he played in the fucking NBA and like you think Shane Gillis. Nah, nigga. Naga. Some niggas are not qualified to talk about certain niggas in hip-hop. Like I said, I look at it like certain niggas got championship. rings.

Okay. Look, DVD days. Hold on. Let me finish. Gilly. I'm gonna give Gilly for example. Get a point,

of course. Get a point. Gilly and major figures had championship rings back then. Diggas was on DVDs, niggas was on sub-zero, this, all kinds of

fucking different shit and grinded their way out. Fritch Montana, he got a championship ring. For sure. I'm gonna tell you why. I seen that nigga fucking with ACOR.

He wasn't around. Why you always call him ACOR? That's it's just me having He's going to be rolling. It's ACAR. Is he always a ACOR? Go ahead.

Fuck up, man. No, look, ACOR, right? I seen them hang around us. Then I seen them around Ross and them. And somebody always told me, you know, that nigga French know how to do business. No, French is a beast. Fuck with everybody.

Then he was fucking with Diddy. I seen him fuck with like five different crews. But yeah, I remember him and Max, like having DVDs and being around us. And then they was around, you know, Diddy and Ross and all them niggas. Like, nigga know how to do business. That's when I learned. Oh.

This shit ain't really about friendship. This shit been about business. Right. You know? And that was a nigga I say, I could say got a championship ring because he knew how to handle business. You know what I'm saying? But certain niggas ain't qualified to seek certain shit.

Okay, so hold on. Let me just say this because this is perfect. To me, my opinion. Hold on. This is a perfect example. Yeah, let me get a light too, Gilly. You need a championship ring for you start talking shit. 50 cent was winning, right?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, yo was locked up, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, yo came home from jail, right? Mm-hmm. I'm just saying it was all types of room out there. I don't know what's true. I don't know what it's not. Yale came home to a million dollars, right?

Yale doing this fucking thing now, right? If you was in an interview at that time, don't speak for Yale right now. I'm taking you back to a time where the world was in the palm of your hands. You just got your first, you just got your first time ways. Dick sucks and everything. This when you knew the level of the game was different. They couldn't tell you nothing. You first time you getting that real ice on, your bank account here, your records popping, you out any night performing,

sideways dick sucks upon sideways dick sucks, right? And then you did an interview on the motherfucker said, the top rappers in New York, and they had African been body in front of you. Wait, wait, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you're a funny, nigger. You're right, though. Huh? What would you have said?

at that time. You on New York ready, yo, nigga, Hot 97. And they're like, no, nigga African being bothered better

than you, what you would have said at that time? Yo, fuck that, my nigga. You're right. He's right. You went crazy.

Okay. Max B. French Montana is his man. French Montana's winning. I've been to French Montana crib in Calabasas. I said he got a championship. Max do too, too.

I've been to his motherfucking condo in New York. You feel me? Max come home, just like Yale did. He having it is motherfucking way. You right. You right. You right.

Right. And now they talk about the hottest rappers in New York. And they like, Big Daddy Kane in front of you, niggas. What you think he going to say? But certain, nigg. Look. I just asked you a question. What do you?

He felt like the world is bad. Oh, yeah. The world is bonds. All right. And I'm not saying Max B is not qualified to say that. Ever since she less. Certain other niggins, they got hits. Mo'clock.

Max B. has a fix. Ever since she left me. Look. A mocared. Look. You know what I see this? No, I understand that.

But all I'm saying is like, like even when you look at the Jay, Jay, Jay shit, right? You noticed that night. What do you peep? You peep. Jay, Eminem. And who else was on that stage? Oz. No, Slick Rick.

No, Slick Rick. That night, though. You got to bring Slick Rick out. A dude like Eminem ain't going to. gonna get on stage with certain niggas, in my mind, just my opinion. But Slick Rick is like, oh, nah, he has, like, even the M&M will look at a slick Rick. Like, them niggers are like in the hall. He's a whole.

That's all I'm saying is Kane is in the Hall of Fame. He is. That's so right there we can't really say nothing bad about Kane, KRS, Slick Rick. None of them. Thank you, Wallow. They just in the Hall of Fame. That's all I'm saying. You can feel like that.

Chuck D. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, Who else? He said Chuck D. What I'm saying is, right? Cool Keith. What I'm saying is, man, that shit I came back. It did.

I bet you one thing's for sure and two things to serve. Kane Price went up on them fucking shows. No, for sure. So what the fuck are we talking about? That's all that matters. If I was getting 15 now, I'm getting 30. Please bitch somebody else say something about me. Hurry to fuck up so I get the 45.

And Max is feeling good. Max, he's qualified. Trust me, he got a champion. shit ring. He had the mixtapes on a lot. But we told me got to stop being some sensitive. I'm just saying certain rappers can't, you know what I'm saying? In Quivert. No, he's a fucking legend. It's just hard to talk about niggas in the Hall of Fame.

Let me ask you a question now. Like, niggas ain't going to talk bad about Kobe and LeBron, bro? Let me, let me, no, they doze me. They doze me. No, I know, but we can't never say that they're not in the whole of fame. There's always people going to argue because people got the right to be fans of people, which is cool, right? And everybody got the- But I would say this, though. I would say this, though.

I would just say this. At the end of the day. I need to ask all your question. Is it? And I'm going to be real. Right now, as this time standing in New York City, this is all three of y'all, is French Montana the king of New York?

He got it right now. Is he the king of New York? Is French Montana right now, we talk about music? Who got music? It's French Montana the king of New York. What would you say? That's kind of hard to say. Oh, ho.

Because I was going to call a king of New York. That was a prior king of New York, but I couldn't get him on the phone, Pete of Guns. He was a king of New York at one time. Huh? For 30 seconds. What are you talking about it? See, y'all disliked a nigga with trophies.

He got trophies. Yo, oh, here. And shout out to Peter. No, no, no. What the fuck that. You're not disrespected, my man. Y'all not disrespect. He got trophies.

What the fuck as you mean? What the fuck is you talking about? What the fuck is you? Oh, y'all. I thought he was being serious. I thought you were going to tell me that Peter Namae wasn't the king of New York. Set out the Peter Gar's, man. I'm calling it.

I mean, the king of New York. The king of New York. Yo, the king of New York. That's right. Hey, listen, hey, Peter, let me ask you quick. Hey, Peter, Peter, Peter, this nigga right here. No, tell me what year and you was the King of New York? I was in King of New York for 45 minutes in 1998.

Hey, listen, hey, Peter. Yeah, that's what I'm here. Now, let me ask you some real shit right now. Ain't French Montana the King of New York right now? Yeah, he got it for 45 minutes. No, he got it for longer. God damn. Forty five minutes.

Like, Wilo wasn't expected that. Look at Wilo face. He said 45 minutes. Listen, listen, listen, I'm still mad. Listen, listen. When I see Hove, I'm mad he ain't bring you out. You wasn't a king of your... I just, I was waiting to the end of the show.

I knew you was coming out. He was supposed to bring you out, wasn't he? I said he'd be a thing like that. It would have been dangerous. Oh, take no more. I'm gonna holl at you. Obviously, that's my name. If it wasn't for the Bronx.

All right, love, I'm gonna hit you. The bill, I thought he was probably. No, they got it. What I thought about? The whole freestyle, man, responding to Drake and Kanye and Nikki and everybody. What's y'all take on that whole shit? What freestyle? Which one?

The freestyle that whole did. Yeah. What's your whole thing? I would like, you know, y'all opinion on this. My joint is like, I think, I get to the point, like, sometimes I think, because I would. But hold up, you know what? Before I said, because Noviol, definitely how you be doing it, right? When a few weeks before that, he was just saying, this beef shit ain't good for hip hop.

Jay was like, yo man, I think beef is nowadays, it ain't good. And then he come out shooting his shit, even though these motherfuckers been talking about him forever. But then he came out shooting. So I just want to know what y'all think about the whole shit. I just think at the end of the day, no matter what Jay said, Jay is competitive. He's seeing everything.

He watched everything. He knows everything that's going to fuck on. So I think that was his time to show like, I'm still Jay, I'm going to shoot at y'all. I see what's going on. I ain't letting it slide. Because when you are, when you were hip hop, artist, right? Ain't nobody letting shit slide. It's this, it's this ego that you got as an

artist. Like, man, that's the, fuck is a matter with them. Like, that's the mindset you got as an artist. Even y'all have it when somebody say something, even though you're old, you'd be like, I'm going to let it slide. I think it's like, fuck, no, that nigga, you know, just, it's just in you. That's just where we come from. No matter how big you is, no matter what it, the sport of hip hop never leave you. It's this competitiveness. And it's that I'm going to check these motherfuckers. Everybody got that in them. So I think that's where that came from. Copy. Like, I ain't going to let nobody keep slam on my name.

So, you know. I mean, I don't care. I feel like if I'm eating smoked duck in Morocco and he's going to it. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. If I'm the only rapper in the Swiss Alps, like, I'm not thinking about these things. Like, if I had a certain Nils. He had a certain thing. He wants to keep talking about the Swiss out.

I'm just keeping it real. Listen, if I'm just keeping it real. Listen, I'm waiting for him saying, if I'm eating Oisca, Chi Chi, if I'm eating Oostin Jack Mack and Rikers Island. Like, it don't really matter. I love what he said this. Life is about the moments, man. Something we don't care about that.

Some people are gonna protect their name and they're gonna defendants it. They don't care. I feel, listen. They don't give a fuck about all that shit. They're like, what, niggas said, what about me? Nah, all right. All right, well, I just feel like I don't be caring about niggas sometimes.

Yo, but back to you guys, right? Mm-hmm. I know y'all from Philly and Philly's like the home and a hustler. Like, and y'all got mad other ventures besides, you know, just doing a podcast. And y'all like, y'all are like the legends of the game. You know what I'm saying? Definitely, we gotta take our hat to y'all. Facts.

Like, I know you got the boxing thing going on. I want you to talk about that. I know you got the book. Pay-O party. But hold it, hold up. Before we say anything, he got a, what's name, John? The only one joint that he got that I'm not in, he got this exotic dancer escort business joint where it's just, it's just dudes.

No, he got 15 dudes that came on from jail. And dudes be come home from jail. He'd be up at the jail signing dudes up. Same, like, that's what he doing. Let's talk. Because, nah, for real, y'all got serious business. Y'all are you thinking I'm bullshit. Y'all in the sports world with some of the biggest names out there.

You know what I'm saying? Make sure y'all got a Wallow 267 book, Yes, to you, know to them. Want to talk about that? Oh, that's fine. Can we get into the boxing? Because I watch all y'all, y'all fight to this stuff. We got the Gillian Wildo. We might have a male man fighting the trash, man.

The most entertaining shit you'll ever see on planet. That is fire, you feel me? We have a doctor fighting a home health care worker, you know, whatever we think of. We have a nurse. A nurse fighting the street thug. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, think about this. Dude, the internet got it to where's, though,

a dude would disrespect anybody. You'll bitch have a dick. A dude come on your joint. Okay, y'all want to do that? All right, come on. All right, come on. You know, ain't you got to do all that. Because dudes be just under people comments saying all the time.

And so, you know, when you bring a dude, why'd I knock him the fun? And do you see it? It lead up to the back and forth on internet. And then when it's time to foot away in, you see dudes disappearing. Like, what's my girl I'd be knocking bitches out? Meatball.

Meatball. Yeah, meatball be knocking bitches out. You know, that's a bachers. Y'all had some good fights in there. Yeah, because everybody, the internet, listen, you know why it'd be good? Because everybody

think they fucking tough on the internet. And you could duck smoke. You can't duck smoke there. Yeah, you're in the ring. Yeah, real life, niggis can't fight. They don't be tough. Like, anybody ducks smoke. Like, he'd be like, he'd be like,

Gil said one time, he said, Cus, is it me? He said, what the fuck happened? They ain't everybody just tough. And never was this many tough people growing up. Dudes would come on your journal on the internet and say the most gatorous, diabolical,

tough killer, nigga, let's see a gilly face. No, we talk about it. You know, it's saying, y'all makes sense. Y'all,

those Philly O'Gs gave y'all niggas. That's what makes y'all niggas y'all now. It's fucking crazy. Y'all niggas got a lot of gems, man. You'll see a nigga now that's around my age. Nigga finally come out of shell and shit

at 46 and shit. Now you're on the internet talking shit. It's like, it's like, Johnny, you was a bitch for 46 years man like what the fuck is you doing man somebody gonna crack in your mouth see see i'm gonna keep it caught let me gonna wrap this join up and and go to the me gonna go to the main off the game of course i'm gonna keep it all we just real you you know what

happened what we're fucked up they took the pistol whip out the game they took the pistol whip they took the they took this being rappers seeing other rappers at clubs at clubs I used to piss them out. Damn. I missed, not for real, I missed those days. Like, before I was, you were niggas, I was pissed with me. No, but think about. Cian R. Ever right?

Niggers was hesitant because we all got to the same clubs, you feel? You couldn't even get the heads up like that. Yo, such and such a head. No, no. No phone. You got to show up, nigga. You feel what I'm saying?

And there's such, such guy, he got, he already tougher than you. And then he got 11 homies with him that was dying to prove themselves. So now, as soon as you walk out of the drink, day like yeah, you was talking that... I'm gonna just say this, man. I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this, yup.

No, no, listen. That's a fact though. That's a fact, though. No. See, niggas have come out at the club. Oh, there is. Hey, you're talking that shit. They chase you all that up here,

keep you all in your ass you. You falling off through cars and shit. Running into the traffic, yeah, no. They don't do that shit no more. They took that element of the rap. They did. They were saying, they used to straighting niggas up. They did.

Yo, we told us if young boys about that one time. They was like, hold up. They used to do that. I was like, don't you not y'all be back and forth on the internet? Like, soon as somebody see you, this is before the pissers. They're going in your mouth, man. It's a whole, it's a brawl. They stop it.

And I said, they don't hear, and used to hear about it. And you just like, they did what to who? Like, I ain't going front, man. No, no, no. You be here about rapists. You only chasing 44 blocks. They're chasing, I'm telling you, they chase them. Forty four.

I'm telling you, you're here. Can the nigger run for him? They'll be like, listen, you'll hear stories like, no, he came out of death jam on Verick. They chased him all week after 38 and 7th. You're like, damn, they didn't stop. And this before. And they don't understand. But now they're saying they have budget because they know they're not going to see the person.

But not just that. Even the rappers, they talk crazy because they know they're not going to see the body. Back in the day, you know what you missing? Real talk, man. This is what you missing. Back in the day. Miss the pistol with basketball. No, this is what y'all missed it.

You're all missing this part, cuss. Back in the thing. y'all don't understand none of y'all have bodyguards so nobody could protect you it was on site real shit y'all didn't have body guards

it was your crew and whatever other crew you're talking about you know real talk y'all niggas be standing behind eight niggers the size of the twin tows

to what you don't want nothing no you know you don't want nothing that's a fact take your bitch's on for the you got these niggas on payroll get 400 to fucking out

with niggas you got to get these niggins 2,000 when you get to the fucking hotel. But I'm going to say this, though. I'm going to say this, though. You can't even entertain this shit, young boys. Behold, behold.

Because you can't do nothing to nobody. You see, back in the day, we got away with whipping ass. You just heard about that shit. The labels, I'm going to keep it all the way real. The labels used to back door money to get them. Hey, he's getting out a lot. Catch him at the club.

Facts. Like, whip that nigga ass. Yeah. Labels will get you back in line. This is what you're missing too. Whiff the niggas. This is the part you ain't say this. You can't.

I'm all at the club working. This is the part nobody's saying nothing about either. What? The security got a good pass these days because back in the day, they would have got the business too. Like now it's different. The security, security boards back in the day, dudes at homies the same,

they would have been working them out. It was no stopping. Dudes wasn't stopping back in the day. I see some shit happen at a club. No, no. No, they wasn't. It wasn't worth it. It wasn't worth it.

It was rare. It was so rare. It wasn't worth it. There was only a couple of niggas that you knew. It was like... No, I'm back then. It wasn't even being. That shit was $32 an hour, man.

Nigel won't taking that shit, man. Yeah, niggas. You got a couple of solid security, niggas. Remember that nigga? Remember that nigga? Oh, yeah. He played in belly in a couple of movies. That nigga was day cane.

He tried to the next level, though. Yeah, he was Haitian. He was the tall nigga that played the belly. He was. I think he was from nothing, man. The nigga was willing to die about that money, man. You can't fuck with this, nigga. You're all fucking shit.

Yeah, you know, man. Huh? Yeah, you know, hey shit, man. That's why we ready to doubt. Okay. He's Americanized, hey. I'm Americanized. I right, got you.

Heard you. Heard you. Heard you. I heard you. So was he ate some glazed duck off the port of Miami. He was done. It was over. It was over.

He ate some glazed duck. It was over. I don't want to be tough. So the book is out. Yeah. Noggin balls. Nogging balls. A motherfucking smoke fest.

Smoke fest, we know. Oh, yeah. You already knew. Because that nigga had. He had some piss. Can we get some of our stuff in our store? I'm smoking on that Gillie Galaxy right here. This is Zaree Irvin.

Yeah, we got to get some of that in that unit dispo, man. Powered by indoor. You know why name this string right here, Zari Irvin? Why? Because we're empty, you smoke it all of you. That's a good one. That's a good thing. That's a good promotion right there.

Sticky Bobby. Sticky Bobby. Right, because Ricky told you, it's if you ain't first your last. Sticky Bobby. Well, give some of that shit up. Listen, Gil birthday, listen, Gil birthday party coming. He's going to be 55, man. Matumbo, right?

I call him Matumbo, 55. Fast a piece of Matumbo, man. No, he 55. He's 55, Matumbo. Gilly ain't that old yet, man. There we go. July 25th. My brother.

The other half brewing. It's going to be jumping. It's going to be jumping. I know smoke fest. I give out the gas all night. Like, anybody that come, you already know how it's going down. It's going down. You already know, you're going to be 55.

The real poor million dollars worth of game. Make some noise. Shit. Out here, baby. You know the five. The legends, man. Let's get it. Now, y'all got championship rings.

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