Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Kid Capri on battling Funk Flex, touring with Biggie & R.Kelly, DJs being undervalued, & working with Kendrick Lamar

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda sit down with legendary DJ Kid Capri for a high-energy episode of The Real Report packed with hip-hop history, debate, and classic New York stories as Capri gives flowers, br...eaks down no-skip albums, and debates the greatest eras and Top 5 MC lists while calling out names like Eminem, Twista, and LL Cool J; he reflects on early touring days, rocking crowds with The Notorious B.I.G. and R. Kelly, and shares untold mixtape-era stories, while also detailing his connection to Kendrick Lamar and narrating parts of DAMN. The conversation dives deep into DJ culture, competition, and the evolution of hip-hop from Grandmaster Flash to modern podcast-era oversaturation, along with debates on battle rap, industry politics, and clashes involving icons like Funk Flex, Nas, and Jay-Z, while Capri delivers passionate rants, behind-the-scenes gems, and crowd-control game that helped shape the culture.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 No. No. No. You. No. You. Listen. Pause.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Pause. Let me just say, Hold on. Pause, pause, pause, super pauses. What did you get stabbed? Browson. Browl. Brooms!
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Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, it's the real report. And we have the number one DJ in a. Oh, Yeah, it's the kid Krabbri. And it's Turbulance, Tony, aka Tony Fri-in' Yeo.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It's the real report, and we have the number one worldwide DJ in the world. Oh. It's the kid Capri. What's going on, man?
Starting point is 00:03:32 What's happening? And legend, what's going on? Man. What's happening? What's up, Legend, man? Happy to have you here, man. Happy to have you here, man. Glad to be here, man.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Glad to be here. Yo, we're glad to have you here, man. You know, you were pillar in hip hop. You know, we was backstage talking about K. Slay. And, you know, sometimes people only give you flowers when you're going. You know, God, like you, we want to give you your flowers now while you here. You know what I'm saying? That's why we did some business murk.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Shout to my man, Dre. Shout to the guard. the dreams, the whole Knicks Foundation. And, you know, Kit Capri is the type of dude that he's, he, what people don't need to know is he doesn't only DJ. He raps, he produces, and he makes beats. So we gave a song to the New York Knicks, me and my man, Dre. They love Kid Capri.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He's a legend. Live from New York. It's playing on a, make some noise for that. Playing on a play. Yeah. Come on, Jim. Make some noise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's the thing is, motherfucker. What's going on, Jim? Jim. So what I'm saying to you is he's not a one-trick pony. You know, he's like a Kanye West.
Starting point is 00:04:39 He's like a Q-tip. You know, he produces and he raps. He's like a havoc. He does a lot. Well, you ain't telling me nothing. I don't already know about Kit Capri. But I could tell you something you don't know about King of what? What?
Starting point is 00:04:50 What is one of the infamous clubs that he used to DJ at in the Bronx? It's two. Name one. I don't know. All right, so we're going to talk about that. One of the most, and you know back in the 80s, Shout to the Bronx. It's still dangerous.
Starting point is 00:05:07 That must have just been talking about this a little while ago. No. No, we didn't talk about it. All right. Okay. Okay. So tell me. I just know Keith Capri.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Okay. So tell me. So back in it, you know, back in the 80s, the Bronx was dangerous. It's still dangerous now. Shout to the Bronx. Definitely. We love y'all, though. I love the BX, know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:24 But make it safe again. So we can come in. You know, so we could come and enjoy. So look. The Bronx in the 80s, DJ Kit Capri, DJ. See, I don't even, what are these cute for? I don't even. They don't be knowing nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I don't even need those. Okay, guys, that's what I'm talking about. DJ Kit Capri, DJ at a club called a castle. Right? Now, Jim don't even know this. The so-called real- How you know Jim don't know that? That's Kit Capri right-hand man.
Starting point is 00:05:50 He wasn't around there? He wasn't around there? Oh, you ain't know this? Jim don't know this. Okay, all right. Okay, okay. I notice it's right here. Men don't know it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah, that's crazy. Jeff, Jim, so on work, Jim. Go ahead. So the thing about the castle is, like, in the 80s, that's like the infamous time, Like, just picture the Bronx in the 80s, the biggest gangsters, the biggest drug dealers. Kid Capri was DJing there. Like, it was so infamous, not trying to promote it, but the rumor is that even Slick Rick
Starting point is 00:06:19 got shot outside of the castle. Back in the day, he's got shot in his eye. Like, it's an infamous club. And the other club he did. No, he gets shot in his eye. They shot at him. And if I'm not mistaken, I think he had a girl in the truck and she got grazed in the side, they had cheesed up the truck.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I'm not mistaken. But yeah, it was a crazy time in the castle, man. You talk about that, man. Talk about that because that's 80s hip hop, you know what I mean? Well, that was, um, when we started the castle, capsule was like 90, maybe 90. Oh, it was like 89 90. 89.
Starting point is 00:06:55 89 going to tonight. Classic time in music. 89 going to 90. Yeah. So there, you know, before that it was the S&S Club. The S&S Club was really where I started getting known at. Okay. Because that's where in the S&S Club is, you know, you need not have to glorify,
Starting point is 00:07:12 but it was the most killers and drug people and street people that you ever could meet, the top that you ever could meet. And they were all there at one place and so I'm sitting in this place looking at this thing. And, you know, spending a year and a half there, I've seen a lot. After I left there, I started playing, you know, doing the castle and doing, I was doing the castle at the same time, but then doing the castle and doing the building downtown
Starting point is 00:07:37 doing my New York thing and then started going out of town. The mixtape thing is what really took off from me. When I took off, it was like I was the soundtrack to the drug dealers. So they shot at Slick Rick Carl? He didn't get hit that day.
Starting point is 00:07:48 No, he didn't get it. Okay. You went back to Slick Rick? No, no, I'm saying because, I mean, somebody said he got shot in the eye. I wanted to know if it was valid. It wasn't there, though.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Okay, I know, but he got his car got shot up. So now I'm visualizing Slick Rick, you know, with the jury on in the Bronx. Rick was, Rick would be by itself. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:06 With all the jewelry on. And call the whole team with dudes peasants. Oh, shit, for real? He was, that was like that. Shout to Slick, Rick, come on, you know. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And, you know, I think he might have did that in the castle. And, you know, it was to these dudes that was these kids that was up in the Bronx. See? And it just jumped up. But nothing happened to Rick.
Starting point is 00:08:29 They just shot the whip up. He got grazed. But some gangster shit was going. He had all. L'OJurio. So look Rick had all the Julio. You see how he talks so fast, like he know what happens. Now he's like, yo, yeah, niggas shut up the whip, so he got grazed.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You just told him. Like, you just told him. Now he's acting like, he everybody knew. Yeah, niggas that shut up the whip, so he got grazed. But he just thought the nigger got shocked. You go ahead. Let's keep it real, murder. When shit happened in the hood, you hear five different stories.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I heard the fifth story. Yo, he got shot in his eye. You got shot an eye. That guy, he just ran with this story so fast. So far. Yeah, so you know, they shot up the whip, so they got grays. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:06 My niggas said he don't even know if she got grays. He said he thick, but I like how you just ran with it. Came in the game with the iPads. Oh, wow. Yeah, man. That was not valid. But the car got shot up, so it's semi-valent. He called niggas peasant, Slick, shout to Slick Rick.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I can see him doing that. You know? Oh, no. It's crazy, Merk because we got to keep Capri, the legend that does this world. Worldwide, you know, talk about some of the places you've been in the world. I've been all over, man. I just, well, I mean, Houston's. I just got back from Houston yesterday, buddy.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I've been everywhere, man. I just came out from Africa. That was really crazy. I just came back from Mexico with Swiss Beasts and the East Keys. That was really big. Look at that. I've been all 52 states. One time I was doing 250 shows every year, first dude in hip hop to own a tour bus.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So that's how much I was traveling. I told you he's so cocky, Jim. No, I'm saying, it's the truth, though. He was traveling so much with 15 craters of records. That's the shit soldier boy would have said, though. But it was true. We were traveling with 15 crates of records on the plane all over. We just got tired of paying all that money and, you know, weight and all that.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So we just said we buy a tour bus. So we could travel and everything will be safe. And that's what we did. But we was just going and going. After the pandemic, when the pandemic came, was starting to leave, they started calling me to go back on the road. And I told the manager, like, I ain't doing all the dates that we were doing more. Say that again? 15 crates.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You hear you, you hit up DJs? Yeah, yeah. 15 crates. Yeah. Rest in peace to my man, DJ Rough Hins, man. So that's how I learned about that. How many clubs you did that got shot up
Starting point is 00:10:36 and somebody got to get the crates? Well, none of my clubs. No, I'm just saying if something happened. None of my joints. I never had to shootings and none of that stuff happened to my joints. I never had that problem. Well, back in the days, my man, rough hands. We're going to hold them.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Other joints. We're not legendary like you. Okay, rest of peace, my man. We would do the club shit in Queens. Then we would get shot up. And we got to get the 15 crates. Yeah, 15 crates. Fortunately,
Starting point is 00:10:58 at none of my parties, I keep people occupied. So none of that shit happens. There you go. It's when everybody's standing around, get a chance to look at each other, nobody's being busy. When you keep everybody busy, you can step on somebody's foot,
Starting point is 00:11:12 and it ain't no problem. But it's when everybody's in there, and they're on their phone, and they're looking at each other, and shit pop off, and next thing you know, it goes where it goes. But we don't have that problem. We never had that reputation.
Starting point is 00:11:22 The shit happening in my events. You know what I'm saying? My events is my party. When you come to my joint, you don't see people with phones and shit. my shit's shaking and people get lit, the word lit a little confused. They think lit means because it's crowded
Starting point is 00:11:34 is lit. Now, your shit ain't lit. Your shit is crowded. My shit is lit. You come to a kick of pre-event, shit's shaking. You know, chick's hair falling out. Ain't no phones and all that shit. People having a good time for real. And that's everybody. I mean, you come from classic eras of music, hip hop, the culture. I mean, you know, to me,
Starting point is 00:11:51 the 80s and the 90s was like. But even with the new music, I mean, even I could play, listen, I could do a whole trap set. And that shit is shaking, shaking, shaking. It doesn't matter what it is. Okay, look, all the errors that you've been in from this hip hop shit in 80s, 90s, the 2000. What album you feel like you could play with no skips, like classic album, no skips? Ever being rockin paid in full?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Slick Rick, Great Adventures, 50 Cent, Get Rich Die Die Dye Trying, Low End Theory, Low End Theory Tribe Called Quest, so many of them. You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay. You know, like you go on and on. So, you know, but what happens is that- Whatever you think is the best between the 80s, 90s and the 2000. That's the fucking question.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Well, the 90s is, they're not going to be like the 90s. Mm-hmm. None's gonna be like- Over the 80s? Rock Kim, Big Daddy King. No, no, no, I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about as far as well. I'm talking about as like the way hip-hop went, you know, it became bigger. But as far as like the beginning of it, nothing's gonna be that. You're not gonna be, matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:12:57 Even with records that came out, you ain't going to beat the beginning. You're not going to beat the tapes of cold crush and fantastic and Furious Five when there was no rap records. When you went to the parties, there was just rappers playing breakbeats and the rapper rapping over the breakbeat, the whole party. And it'd be the baddest chicks in the party. You know what I'm saying? So that's the real shit. They didn't get the accolades that we got later on. They didn't make the money that we made.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They didn't see the fame that we've seen. but these are the dudes that built it. Without them, we wouldn't have jobs right now. Copy. You know what I'm saying? So that's why the older dudes I always respect. I never look at them as a down thing. I always look at them as my heroes.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Of course, they started the game. I always pay homage. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So you look at dudes like, dudes like, you know what I'm saying? Just great emcees that, you know, that really put it down. You know, they deserve to be put on a pedestal. Nah, the Bronx started the game, but you know,
Starting point is 00:13:54 Queens ran the game. What I'm saying? And Brooklyn, wow, he ain't going to get that. And Brooklyn took it. And Brooklyn took it. And Brooklyn took it. Shout to Russell Simmons. You know all like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm on my cock and shit. You know what I'm doing. No, go, go, go. Yeah, feel like that. Let's go. Let me go. Let me go. Let me talk.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Now, on another note, right, I'm Kripp. Who's your top five? I don't have no top five. Oh, shit, for real? No. Why you say that? Because what are you talking about? You're talking about top five rappers.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You're talking about top five fashion, top five record sellers. What are you talking about? You talking about top five rappers. Ain't nobody beating battle rappers, if you ask me. You know what I'm saying? A lot of the top five rappers or a lot of the rappers that's in the game get this shit from battle rappers, right? So that's one thing.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Secondly, there's people that's in top five. Oh, how do you say that? You had rappers that was doing that thing before baddew rappers. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about when the day or day is right now, a lot of rappers that was rapids a certain way, they listen to battle rappers. they're rapping that way. And that's the truth. You know what I'm saying? We ain't going to sugar
Starting point is 00:14:59 refrain. And he got a lot of technique from what battle rappers is doing. It's just that battle rappers always had a stigma that they couldn't make good records. You know what I'm saying? So that's why they wasn't really successful in making music. What about are we talking about? We're talking about, we're talking about this. He's talking about how music is he feeling. Right. You know what I'm saying? And just to speak to that, I mean, I'm called top tier with all battle rappers. This is when I was trying to help the battle rap. You know what? Before the battle rap, the thing blew up. I was trying to help him get on.
Starting point is 00:15:28 This was smack left. We had shot some things, me and Lola Lux and a bunch of us, and we did some stuff. And then I, you know, we was going to do this deal with HBO and this update. So I made this album called Top Tier that I never put out. But shit is incredible. You never put it out. You know what I think about?
Starting point is 00:15:43 You know what I think about? You know what I'm glad we talk about better rap? Because you know what I think about battle rap? I think because I'm a fan of Loaded Lux, murder moog, you know, everybody. DNA. The list goes on and on. Even if the female rappers, you know, I love them too. I feel like when you had the battles like Loaded Lux and these guys murder moot and these
Starting point is 00:16:06 guys were starting to make money, I think in Smack was making all the money. It got kind of, you know, they had deals with, I think Eminem, right? It was Eminem doing the show. So hold on, listen, when the bag came, they wasn't on YouTube no more. So when they was on YouTube, it was like you can catch all the battles. And I think that they was making so much money. like to a point where they was making more than rappers. So what you're saying is valid,
Starting point is 00:16:30 because they would say now for Lodilux murder mood battle, I need 40,000. Yeah. Like numbers started getting like ridiculous for promoters where they're like, yo, battles and then you got rappers that, you know, like DNA and other rappers, goods and all these other rappers, they're like, well, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We want 20, we went 30. We want 15. They want their money. They bringing it down. No, I'm not saying not, but then it was just less battles. Yeah. And then you wasn't seeing it all. YouTube because there was a point where all we was watching was battle rap.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Queen of the Ring, the female battle raps, I was watching that. There was a time of it. That's always watching. But back to Kick and Free. Let's get back to him. He got into his battle. He got into his battle rap. We're going to have some battle rappers up here.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Of course. But they go back to your question. You just ask me who the top five are. So like, yeah, like, there's great MCs, but there's a lot of times I hear top five list and the people that I think that should be in top five isn't. I'll tell you, if you talk about rap skills, why isn't Twister in top five? Why isn't Eminem in everybody's top five? He is in my top five.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Hold on you. He's in mine's too, but why isn't he in everybody's top five? But you, but. Right? So, so, so that's what I'm saying. It's all, um, subjecting. You may let the brother talk. You may like your five.
Starting point is 00:17:49 No, I know, but he's bugging. He can't, so you mean to tell me, no, because he's stripping. No, hey, he's tripping on. I'm going to tell you, look, I'm going to tell you why it's the real report. Nah, it's the real point. It's not in certain people. It's not in the 80s who's my top five. We're going to have, I'm not, and there's no order.
Starting point is 00:18:05 We're going to have Big Daddy Kane on the list. That's in the 80s. That's what I'm saying. But I can do 80s, 90s, I could do 80s, 90s, 2000. But that's a different thing. When you say, yeah, yo, who's your top five? Right, you say, who's my top five? He didn't go get to, who's your shot.
Starting point is 00:18:18 He don't believe in the top five. No, no, we got to let's put this right. Let's put this right. We can rewind it. I don't believe in the top five. If somebody asked me who's my top five and they don't say in whatever, they just say who's my top five.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I'm thinking they're saying my top five best sympathies of all time. If you say who's the top five at the 80s, I'm going to tell you exactly who's my top five. If you say who's the top five in the 90s, I'm going to tell you, depending on what you're talking about, record sales or raps. Some of these motherfuckers are top five
Starting point is 00:18:52 because of how they're dressing. They're out here modeling. and they ain't had it hit 15 years. I agree. Am I right? All right. Okay. They're getting viral because they're, first of all, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I don't want to deal with, first of all, let's go here. I don't want to pay for it. If I'm not doing the show or something, I don't want to pay nobody because they fucking, because they're popular. I want to pay them because they get the job done. You'd be popular because you tripped over a goddamn rock on TikTok and that tomorrow you viral. And now they hire you to come in the club and everybody's in the club watching you stand in a
Starting point is 00:19:19 VIP booth like they do with some of these chicks. Yeah. Right? Nah, I'm paying for somebody who's going to get the job. job done. My crowd going to come. The crowd going to be happy. When they come, they pay their money and they left with their money's worth. Edin, find the, um, nah, you know different times. Hold on. Hold on. I'm just asked. Hold on. Let me give you up. Edit, edit, edit, edit. Find the mom that got popular on TikTok off that song. We had different times. Fonda, she's, it's a mother,
Starting point is 00:19:47 look it up, type it up, mother that got popular of TikTok song. Everybody knows it. I don't know the song. But we in different times when things are different. I'm not mad at the young kid. Listen, listen. I'm not mad at the young kid that gets popular over some dumb shit. That's them. Listen, I want them to do good. They're going to make money from me.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'm talking about as a grown man, I'm not walking around doing dumb shit to get popular. And if I'm going to work with somebody or pay somebody to come do something, I'm not going to pay them because they're popular for some dumb shit. I'm going to pay them because they're going to get the job that I need done, done, period, for whatever time it is. And if you don't like that, don't come. But I want part. I want people to go. get their money's work. When you come, that's why I pay for a DJ to open for a show for me everywhere I go.
Starting point is 00:20:29 This is money I can keep in my pocket. I don't have to pay for no hotels and planes and all that shit for him, but I want people to get the best show they can. So I don't want to walk in here in the song three, four times. You know what I'm saying, where a lot of DJs are coming, play the pop and shit at 10 o'clock at night when nobody's there because he wants to get it on. And I hear that, but if you really thinking about the event, you're thinking about the people, it's a strategy, is a science to everything that you do.
Starting point is 00:20:53 So what's you thinking before you get on the set? Because you're one of the greatest DJs in the world. He's the best. We got to give it to him. It's Kit Capri. We're doing this through the 80s to 90s. Don't say that because I'm going to get a bunch of comments. He ain't the best.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Well, I don't get to fuck about that. I don't read comments, brother. I ain't the best. He's the best. You're the fucking best. From the castle to the fever. Don't be modest because you're a cocky motherfucker. I told you.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Listen. Listen, murder. When I first met Keith Capri, my experience was him. I never left the fucking hood. 50 flew me out to Ken Koon. He was signed to Columbia, Tone and Pocan. And what was the soundtrack for?
Starting point is 00:21:34 What was the movie? Where L.L. The into deep soundtrack. In too deep soundtrack. Don't say pause. There's a story behind that too. It is a good. But you said, you said.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah, supports. In too deep, in two deep sound track. It's a pause. Cool. All right, pause. It was a dope movie. And I never left the hood. I went to Cancun.
Starting point is 00:21:53 50 flew me out. I was out there. And this is when I knew. Kid Capri is cocky. You're all right. He's this cocky motherfucker, man. He's got to go. Stop, did the best.
Starting point is 00:22:02 He's the best, right? He knows he's the best. That's why I like him. But King Capri came through, right? Shane swinging. He came through the crowd. Now, mind you, this is a show like Gloria Velaz. It was mad shit going on.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Girls was getting eight out on stage. Damn. We could mute that or whatever. You guys. This is my first time leaving the hood. Girls were getting eight out on stage. I think it was Luke of one of them niggas up there. It was like Luke.
Starting point is 00:22:26 So this is like, what was that, 9-7? Shout out to Luke. Yo, Luke. And it was like Gloria Velas with the day. Girls were getting eight on stage. It was crazy. My first time leaving the hood, I'm in Cancun, Mexico. 50 got rowdy, rowdy, rowdy, rowdy.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Routy, look it up, y'all. I produced Routty, righty, okay. We were signing the same label on Columbia. Got you. Now, the crazy shit, I didn't even realize until later. That movie, the first time I ever took an airplane ever was to Boston, right? These drug dealer kids in Boston
Starting point is 00:22:56 had me come out there and do some shows. Right. First time I've been on the plane. Ironically, the drug dealers that brought me out there, the movie was about them. Oh, shit. The leader was L.L. That was G.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Oh, from the into deep movie pause. Right. Right. I didn't know that. And then on top of that, I produced the first record, which was Rowdy, Rowdy, Routy. I didn't know none of these shit till later on I realized who they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But yeah, it was the dudes in Boston. That was the first time ever been on the airplane. Shout to him. Shout to all my guys in Boston. Yeah. New York, niggas, it's rowdy, rowdy. That's my first time. What's that, 9-7?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. My first time ever leaving the hood, drug dealer. 9-7. No, 3, 4, God brought a dirty nigg. And you're 5th. And you made Kit Capri. Kid Capri. Oh yeah, back to him be a cock.
Starting point is 00:23:45 He came through with the chain on, chain swinging. He still got the hair now, curly hair, shit. I still got my hair, man. I'm still copping, man. So my niggins be mad at Kit Capri. We're gonna talk about it. So he came through, but he was came through and this is 9-7 and he fucked up. I fucked his head up.
Starting point is 00:24:00 He didn't think I remember that. He had the Brownskin chick with the super fatty, like before the BB out. He's too cocky. That's why all these niggins mad. I'm totally, they're too cocky, bro. Kickapri is cocky. He's a legend, but he's a cocky motherfucker motherfucker, bro. That's fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:24:20 How was it? Don't put the wrong thing out. Now, you know, I'm always, you know, we got Brooklyn in the house. Brooklyn. So how was it? Because I know you did some things with Biggie. How was that? I'm Luke Wilson.
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Starting point is 00:24:48 I don't care what you'll say. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:25:16 One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
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Starting point is 00:27:24 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I did shows with Biggie. Yeah, that's what I want to know. Shows. I remember one show I did. I just want to hear about backstage with Biggie. You know, how was it? I remember one time we was backstage.
Starting point is 00:27:36 He was in the car, right? And I came up to the car. He was sitting there. Biggie was cool. I was sitting there. I was like, yo, I'm proud of you. He said, yeah, I'm proud of you. So I'm about to tear this shit down, kid.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Like, I know. He had a purple suit on. It was me, him, and R. Kelly. Oh, shit. And see this, I love these fucking stories. And he fucking got on stage. When he walked on stage, that shit just said.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I never heard a war like that. Like, it was like a real, like a, it was like, I'd never heard that shit before. But it was so crazy when he got on stage. This was in Detroit. When I seen that shit, man, it was like, yo, this shit is, this is massive. because you just seem to people like people
Starting point is 00:28:23 just throwing people and shit. And I had experience like that in the garden when I did the garden, you know, shook this shit so crazy. You did the garden with who? Who was that one time I did it was when Aliyah, when I went on tour with Alia. That's a piece of Leah. I had, we came in the garden and I would come out, well,
Starting point is 00:28:42 through the whole tour, I would come out. It was five people on tour. It was Mary J. Blige, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Alia, Genuine, and Drew Hill. So Leah had a dancing show, so they wanted somebody to come with the energy. So that's why they came and got me to come in the middle of a show. So we would do this the whole tour. When we got to the garden, they oversold the garden like 8,000 seats.
Starting point is 00:29:04 The whole bottom, that shit was just crazy. So I seen Buster Rhymes in the back, and this is right when put your hands where I could see me, just drop. I said, yo, I'm bringing you on stage. And he was like, where I was like, yeah, but I ain't got the record. I turned, I seen Flex. I see Flex, I need to put you, put your hands where I can see joint. gave me the record. I go on stage, I do this 15-minute set, shaking this motherfucker to the man was so crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Then I stopped. I say, yo, I ain't done. And then I dropped, put your hands where I can see him, Buster come wiggling his ass out there. To this day, to this, to this day, me and Buster talk about the wind that we felt from people screaming at us on, it was the, I'm glad he was there to witness that shit, because If I was by myself, nobody would believe that shit. He brings it up like, yo, kid, do you remember the fucking wind from the people screaming at us?
Starting point is 00:29:57 It was so crazy murder. My daughter's mother, Vina Love, mother at the time, she was at the shit. She'd go to all the garden shows. She said, kid, I was there. She said, I never seen no shit like that. She said it looked like people were throwing people. She was like this shit was just shaking. But, you know, kid, not to fast forward because working with Ali is crazy, but I'm just still
Starting point is 00:30:18 visualize. But to do that for, the point that I was about to make, to do that for Leah, that was, and to see what the outcome for a Leah was, that's something that's always
Starting point is 00:30:28 going to live and be felt. You know what I'm saying? That's the bigger, that's the part of it. It wasn't so much to show as I was able to do that. For her, you know what I'm saying? Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And then, kid, when you say Biggie and R. Kelly, did they do, you must be used to me spend? Did they come out to that, or Biggie ain't did some other shit? No. Well, yeah, no, no. No.
Starting point is 00:30:47 No. I had left by the time R. Kelly came out. R. Kelly was last. I already had left. I left in the middle of Billy's show. Biggie didn't bring All Kelly out at that point. No, it was, the show was me, Biggie and R. Kelly. So R. Kelly was coming out last, but I don't know if R. Kelly came out with Biggie
Starting point is 00:31:04 or if Biggie came back out where R. Kelly was already left. Got you. That shit is crazy. That's why we bring this guy. But I was also on tour with R. Kelly and Salt and Pepper. That tour was ridiculous. That was. Who, who said?
Starting point is 00:31:16 Salt and Pepper and R. Kelly was Salt and Pepper's tour. What year was there? God damn. That was, uh. Swah, like, see, we bring the legends on this show! That was, uh. Let me see you later, man. What year when we did that?
Starting point is 00:31:26 This is classic shit right here. That was 94. Then we did the Budweiser Super Fest tour, all the deaf comedy jam tours. We did the- How was it with Saw and Pepper? Because you know, they was like the first sex symbols of hip-hop. Back in the days. It was crazy. Remember when push it came out?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Oh my God. Yeah. Yo, they was like they had the tight, leather, super-colon and on. They got the song on there too. Shout to So on Pepper, Spinderella. I always the date over which DJ is which, because I'm a good one. I wasn't with death comedy gym, man. Take us back to those days, kid.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That shit was crazy. Word. Oh, that was classic. I forgot a good one, murder. Let me see a lighter, Merk. That was a good one because I forgot about Dev Shamany. To be there with all them dudes, man, like, you got to keep in mind like Deaf Comedy Jam. Before Deaf Comedy Jam, it was Eddie Murphy, it was Richard Pry, it was Red Fox, it was the standards.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It was in the whole big lane for comedians. So deaf comedy jam gave a stage for comedies that was real funny and real dope in their own city. They never had no outlet. You know what I'm saying? So when they got there, it gave a outlet on a big stage. And then you got me, this DJ on the show,
Starting point is 00:32:31 that, you know what I'm saying? It just gave a different kind of feel to the shit. And the real party was before the cameras went on. That was when the real shit was popping. That was when the party was shaking in there. And then when the cameras went on and we came fun, funny time. But the whole shit was dope. And we went on a tour.
Starting point is 00:32:47 We went on Deaf Comedy Jam tour, that's when they really got a chance to really see. So how was it? How was Martin being around? Being back. We got to hear backstage because Martin was there. Being backstage with Bernie Mac. All type of people, Bernie Mac.
Starting point is 00:33:00 We want to hear them stories. How was it around Bernie Mac? How was it around Martin? Who else was on there? It's a list. Look them up, Edin. You're the moderator, right? You gotta let my man kick a pre-talk right quick though, man.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But I'm letting him moderate too. Find out all the people that was on death comedy, What he's doing over there? Find out all the people. He don't know. Tell him what you was about Bernie Mac, kid. How's your world with Bernie MacMaw? So, Bernie, right?
Starting point is 00:33:24 That motherfucker was funny all day. Like, you'll be on the tour bus with Bernie, and he'll have you laughing the whole trip. You know, he put his little stocky cap on, and he had his hinekin in his hand and shit. And the motherfucker would tell jokes the whole trip, like through cities and shit. And you go to sleep in your bunk, and now he's,
Starting point is 00:33:46 he go fuck with the bus driver and make him laugh to where he got to pull over and shit because he's laughing like he was naturally like that and he'll do that get to the city get on stage shut that shit down host the whole show shut that shit down get back on the bus and do the shit all over again this was him every day you know what I have videos and all kind of shit from us backstage and all kind of shit so you know the seed of I remember one time when Chris Tucker he got on my tour bus we took my tour bus out and Chris Tucker got on the bus Chris Tucker was hot on Deaf Comedy Jam. He sat on my bus, he said,
Starting point is 00:34:20 yo, I ain't never been on the tour bus before. This is crazy. I've never seen no shit like this before. Two years later, he was making $20 million. Making moves. Two years later. At the time, I was getting paid more than he was. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:34:32 You know, I'm saying. So shit could happen in an instant, you know, depending on how much ground you put to it. Definitely. Comedy Jam put those dudes out because today you see everybody, Cap Williams. Everybody. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:43 All these dudes. Everybody that came up on that. from that shit. You know what I'm saying? So it was a big platform from all of us. What's the list? What's the list of everybody who's on that job? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:02 That's crazy. You don't remember Kevin Hart from that. Kevin Hart was right. Tiffany Haddish. That's the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, because there were so many. That's crazy. There's the ones that didn't make it big.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You know what I'm saying? You know, the Charles, Charlie Burnett and like people like that didn't make it with the big name. And then motherfuckers was incredibly funny as shit. You know what I'm saying? the shit down, you know, but everybody couldn't go. It was so many. We gave so many a platform. Who surprised you the most on stage?
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'll tell you who surprised me as a guest the most. And that was Dolomite. When Dolomite popped his ass out there, that shit was like, wow. Dolomite was on deaf comedy jam. That shit was crazy. I was like, oh shit, Rudy Ray Moore. He was on there. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So yeah, we brought a lot of people out and everything, like, and the great thing is when you seen the guests, all the guests that was there. But, you know, the crazy thing. is a lot of shows I've done. You know, I've had Michael Jordan sitting right next to me while I'm tan down. That's great. You know what I'm saying? That's dope.
Starting point is 00:36:06 People don't like Donald Trump. I'm not a Donald Trump supporter or none of that shit or what he does. Nothing against I'm not political or nothing. But I did a party in Donald Trump's house. That's crazy. I did Martha Stewart's first hip-hop party. Like, you know what I did a lot of shit that people don't really know. This is why we got you on the show, man.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's crazy. You know, and at the end of the day, you know, God put you in the position. So you just do what you do. Sometimes you don't really have to talk about it. Just keep going. Definitely. That's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You ever work with Michael Jackson? You ever got around here? Nah, but I was on the show when we did the, when we did the BET Awards, when we did the tribute to Jam Master Jay. What's the peace Jam Master Jay? James. And Michael Jackson was on that show. I met James. Me and James talked for a while.
Starting point is 00:36:50 It's crazy. I didn't get a chance of met him. Man, but Janet Jackson, Tito Jackson, Jamain Jackson. I know all of them. I know Jackie. I know Marlon. I just did it. I just did,
Starting point is 00:36:59 he just had me come to do the house, their house in Indiana. In Gary, Indiana. I just came and did an event there for them. I met Marlon and Jackie there. So Janet, Janet, how I met Janet, we were going, me and Jim, we was at the airport. We was on our way going to North Carolina go do a show.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Jim, you met Janet, huh? Right. But what's how it went down? We were walking into the airport, and her husband at the time, I forgot his name. black skin dude. He walks up to me.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I didn't even know who he was. He says, yo, my wife is a big fan of yours. She wants to meet you. I was like, who's your wife? He was like, she's in the van. Come to the man. I come to the van. She opens the door.
Starting point is 00:37:36 She says, yo, I seen Jen. I was like, oh, shit. She said, I'm your biggest fan. Biggest fan. I felt him off on me. That's crazy. She invited me to the show. We went to the show because I had a show in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:37:48 She had a show in the same city we was at, but her husband was in the daytime. So we went there. Me and MC Light gone on stage at her show. and then I did my show that night, and then I came and did a birthday party. So they, cool family, man. That's great.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Faceful family, man. You know. Being rooms you never thought you being, man. Yeah. Being one of the best DJs in the world. And not only a DJ, you know, I say Grammy nominated backstage and Jim and him corrected me. He won a Grammy.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So make some noise. Oh, shit, okay, all right, okay. Shit, I'm talking about. Talk about that, man. Yeah, um, well, how that happened, that was kind of by default. Right? I was doing an album.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you what I mean by that. Let him talk. Let him talk. Let him talk. I was doing an album called Soundtrack to the Streets, right? My first album was kicking pretty tape where I rhymed on the whole album. I wasn't really into making an album. When I got that album, Bismarck, Bizmark got me that first album deal on one of the brothers, right?
Starting point is 00:38:43 But he got me the album deal based on I was hot in the street for my mixtapes. I wasn't looking for no album deal, right? So he got me the album. Six years later, I decided to do another album where I wanted to be a producer. I wanted to be like the Quincy Jones of hip hop. So I got to deal with Columbia to do this album called Soundtrack to the Streets. Jay Z was on the album on the first record that's like that.
Starting point is 00:39:03 At the same time, we was on the Puff Tour, and I was playing this track on the plate that 45 King did the beat to, which was Hard Knock Life. That record, Hard Knocked Lab, I was going to put them on the soundtrack to the Streets album. While I was playing in the arena, Jay heard it. Your kid, what's that?
Starting point is 00:39:23 It's a hard knock life. crazy he's like yo I was like I put him on the phone with more 45 king too much two weeks later he had the record so I gave it no big deal I'm not saying anything but it was going to go on my album got gave it to jay it probably worked out better than i gave it to him more than it was for me you know what I'm saying but that's the way you know went and it blew up man so because it's like that record my record that was on my album with jay he licensed it on that same album so that's how I won the grammy that's why I mean by default all right got you know what I'm saying now but that's That's still dope as shit.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Hey, I'm grateful. That's a blessing, man. Shout to Jay. That's crazy. So we take it to, you know, to the, you know, he's been around all these people, you know, James Brown. But I did my homework on you. Back in the days, I heard you used to go to Harlem, you know what I mean, and the Benz's, I don't
Starting point is 00:40:12 know if you had the Benz, the BM, but they said you had some shit. This is the word on the streets. Used to go to Harlem, because we're going to go to the mixtape era, because the mixtape era is is as important as you was talking about battle rap. I love battle rap, but the mixtape error is important. You know, Kid Capri, Ron G. Shout to Kit, hold on, shout to Kit Capri, Ron G, Grandmaster, Grandmaster Vic, dog time, my man, DJ Rough Hands,
Starting point is 00:40:42 the Rockaway Twins, you know, I mean, DJ Gold Figures, tape master, when niggas was going to the club, Jade Ellen Relo, when they was going to the club, bringing motherfucking 15 to 20 crates. King Capri is in that rate. Shout to all of them. And I heard, because Ron G number 10, you and Ron G is like two of my favorites. Shout to Ron G. Ron G number 10 was a classic.
Starting point is 00:41:08 You know what I'm saying? That's when Tim Dog went against the West Coast. He had for Compton. First Bronx nigger. You know, Bronx niggas was always crazy. Shout to the BX. I love Compton. I'm not this in Compton.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But he was the first nigga to like go at Compton in the 80s. I don't remember you remember that record. But I heard you used to sell tapes to like all the biggest drug dealers, Rich, Al Poe, Fritz, Guy Fisher. Is this true? Like out the trunk of the Benz or the BM wagon or just explain that. Express that to me because I like stories. What happened was start, let's start here.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Hollywood, Lubbuck, Starsky, Chief Rock of Star, and Bruce C. They were the mixtape guards in New York. Legends, legends, legend. Right? So Star Child was playing in the S&S Club. The SNS Club was a club that not anybody was just allowed to be in because of the people that was in there. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:04 So when I got in there, I'm like, oh, shit, I'm looking at, I'm seeing who's who. I know who's who. I know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what. You know what I'm saying? And me and Starr started playing. Starr was making the mixtapes from then. Me and him started making the mixtape together. When I stopped playing with Star, I kept making the mix tape.
Starting point is 00:42:19 tapes. But I've seen something bigger than New York. You know what I'm saying? I seen it bigger. I seen it going out. And I decided I'm going to sit on the street corner in front of Rucker or the street corner of 145th Street next to Willie Burgers and sell the mixed tapes for $20. So I would go to trade a home by a case of tapes, a dollar of tape and come out selling them 20 hours of tape, make $2,000 in an hour. I would doing this shit every day. You know what I'm saying? These licks were selling $20 cracks. I'm selling $20.00. I'm selling $20. out of mixtapes. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Right. So, Rick got me and said it gave me an awareness. Right. But Alpoen rich in them niggas was buying your tape. What's coming through? I'll come to my joint and buy the tape for me for 500. See this is what I'm talking about? Because he wanted the tape that nobody had while I was recorded.
Starting point is 00:43:08 So he'll say, yo kid, I'll give you a hundred. Nah, 200 kid, your three, five. Yeah, take the tape. I'll pull. So I'll give me some tape, you know what I'm saying? But that's how it went. It was, them things. It was like the soundtrack to the drug dealers because when they heard their shout out on their name or shout out on the mixtape and they go on down the street playing on that crazy system, they made them feel like a star.
Starting point is 00:43:30 You know what I'm saying? So one dude tell me, he was like, yo, when I dress, if I ain't have a mixtape or kick a pre-mix tape on me, I didn't feel fly. Like it was part of the dressing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? So it wasn't like niggas paid you for the shout-out. They was just paying extra. No, but yeah, right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:48 My taste is playing out. But that paid extra was like paying for the shout-out. No, no. My tapes are $20. But there was people that would come and just give me $1,000. Give me $500 just because of what I was doing. There would be dudes that want this tape. There was only one left.
Starting point is 00:44:04 He want to give me $300. This dude going to give me $600 for it because he don't want him to have it. Rich Porter was coming through? It was crazy. Rich Porter, too? Or just Apple. Oh, Rich would come through every now and then. No A-Z?
Starting point is 00:44:16 A-Z will come through. A-Z will come through. Because you know that was classic time. Yeah, I see A after all that shit. All those years after I see A, it's A still chum. But you was driving the BMW or the Benz? Who me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I know you was looking like a drug dealer. You know what I was doing? I'm gonna tell what I did. I pulled up right on 145th Street. Everybody out here with all their cars. I bought my man's orange camera, what was that shit? Camaro. I bought that shit pulled up right up in front of the Woolie Burgers.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Jumped up on the hood, sat right there. Everybody was like, you crazy, kid. Everybody out there with flash shit, I had an orange Camaro all there, some ugly shit. I ain't care about none of that. I still care about that. Today I drive a wrangler. I can drive what I want.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I drive a wrangler, but I don't care. Remember, I own two tour buses. I never cared about cars. I've had cars that stayed factory, never put no rims on them, then I put a system in it. But I don't care about that stuff. I care about other things, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Legacy, making shit happen. So how was it coming up in the business? Bronx because you know, you came up in the Bronx. I mean, coming up in the Bronx is the Bronx. I lived in a good part of the Brown River, the Kingsbridge, you know what I'm saying, right next to Riverdale, which I moved to Riverdale later. It wasn't, you know, rough like the South Bronx, but we ain't take no shit. Couldn't come to that block with no dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Once that did, left their bag. So it was definitely an area where everybody took care of each other, everybody looked out for each other, everybody was straight, you know, and then I opened up a hair shop over there They called Evan Ness Unitex for 10 years. Oh, what? Me and Curtis Smith, Curtis Smith was a celebrity hair stylist. He, you know, he was always going back, just making sure everything's good out there. But yeah, man, we always had a good time.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Never been no real problem in the Bronx, man. Fast forward, right? How did you connect with Kendrick Lamar, my guy? He reached out when he was doing the damn album. So when he came out to New York, I met him in the studio, and he gave me an idea when he wanted I gave him some ideas what he should do. And what surprised me about Kendrick is how smart he was and how much history he knew. Because I said it's another interview.
Starting point is 00:46:30 When I asked him, I said, yo, you could have had, you know, DJ Pool or Battle Cat or one of them legends out there in the West Coast to come and do this, why you didn't call them. His response was, you know, I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for DJs. I know what you did as a whole. A lot of people wouldn't be eaten if you didn't do what you did. did. So I wanted that authenticity on the album. I was like, wow. Look at that. That's dope. It was dope for him. You know, he really did his homework.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You know what I'm saying? So that's the way impressed me the most. Real smart, laid-back, calm dude, you know what I'm saying? And really focused. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm older than him and I look up to him. You know what he does. That's dope. I didn't even know you was in the studio with him. That's crazy. Yeah. You're on the project, man. On the damn project, man. You produced it or you just I narrated the album. I did about five joints. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Got to do your homework, Monsieur Ye. Man, I knew about that. I knew about the rich in the outposts. All this I know Kit Caprice said, but you ain't know he was on Kendrick Lamar album. All these new records I got coming out too. Boy, I tell you, man. We're off camera, we brothers. When the camera comes up.
Starting point is 00:47:39 That's why I said. Kit Capri, talk all the shit. You were talking back there. Fuck that. In this music business, right, and you've been doing business for so long, has anybody ever owed you money, kid, that you find it hard to get the money from? A bunch of motherfuckers owe me money. That's today.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Today. Today. That's why I don't need nobody shit no more. Oh, shit. Got you. Got you. Because what happens is, I'm not going to ask you for it. I'm just going to remember I gave it to you.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Got you. Got you. You know what I'm saying? Got you. Got you know. Now, depending on the problem. Depending on what it really is, how much it is, I may come and be like, yo, what's that paper?
Starting point is 00:48:21 We got to do something. But if it's something that I could do it out, hey, for whatever it was, it got you away from me. I ain't, I ain't got worried about you no more. Got you, got you, got you. Yo, talk about, you know, shout to my man Dre, shout to Kit Capri, he's not only a producer, he's a rapper, you know, shout to the New York Knicks,
Starting point is 00:48:41 because he's on his New York shit. This dude right here, let me tell you what happened. Let me just talk my shit. Because Yeo didn't want me to tell you. He didn't want me to say nothing. Oh, shit. He didn't want you to see it. He didn't want me to say shit.
Starting point is 00:48:53 This is when I dropped live from New York, right? I didn't even drop live from New York yet. He heard, shout to Robbie Rob. Robbie Rob had hit me on the FaceTime. He was with Robbie Robb, and I was playing live from New York on the FaceTime. Yayo heard that shit. It was like, yo, play that shit again. Played that again.
Starting point is 00:49:11 He got right on the phone and called Dre. Yo, Dre, I need you to make sure that. this shit is rocking in the state in the garden. Master Square Guard. Massa Square Garden. Now, listen, the record wasn't even out yet. You about to give this nigga some props right now? Yo, I'm giving it to him crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Oh, man, man. Poor. Listen, the record wasn't even out yet. It was two weeks before the record was even coming out. This shit was rocking in the garden. The shit was all, and they were playing the while they're playing the game. Playoffs, baby. Then they called me down there to come do a bunch of shit for the garden and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:49:44 This shit wasn't even out yet. So this ball. He really set it off for me for that record before I even got a chance. And now the smart thing was I didn't want people to think it was a New York Knicks record in case they lost. Got it. So I waited for them to see if they were going to lose a win before I dropped the real video out. Murder, at the end of the day, I had the sound of ear. This guy is a dope producer.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He's a rapper. You know what I'm saying? And he's the number one DJ. So. For them is when they make records, people look at them as one in one pocket. But when you look at Kit Capri, you look at him as more as top-tier DJ in the world instead of looking at him as a rapper or a producer. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:30 I got you. Pass my lighter. Oh, definitely. I got you. I was about to steal it. You know what I mean? But you know what I mean? Like they look at him as, yo, he's number one producer because when he get on them
Starting point is 00:50:39 turn tables and you hear, King Capri, you know. The party DJ and, you know, there's just. What I do is the party DJ. It's all kind of DJing. You know what I'm saying? I'm not the best. I'm the best at what I do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:53 What I do set the tone for what you see everybody doing? It's just kick a pre in them. You know what I'm saying? They got some kind of blueprint or something from my chemistry or what I've done. So, I mean, I ain't got to sell that to nobody. Everybody knows that. You know, people that probably did my style,
Starting point is 00:51:11 got it from somebody else that don't know they got it for me. It is what it is. I'm glad to be able to have that influence. on people to do that. You know what I'm saying? That's a gift. You know what I'm saying? But at one time I ain't like that shit.
Starting point is 00:51:21 One time I was like, why everybody doing my shit? What fuck is everybody doing my shit for? Find your own shit. I ain't come and sound like Boosy. I ain't come and sound like Star and I came. I found my own shit and I moved with it and it worked. Find your shit. Be influenced but don't be, don't copy.
Starting point is 00:51:35 We don't come from that. But what are you going to do? You know what I'm saying? So once I got over there and really looked at it for what it was, it was like, you're kid, you influenced the world, Bobby, you really did that shit. Like, you really did that shit. So once I got it to that, it was like, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:54:45 And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Now, you entertained radio for a little bit, but you was never like the big radio DJ guy like that. Why you didn't choose that path like that? Why you didn't pursue that? Because everything for me is a stepping stone. The mixtape was a stepping stone. It wasn't a career move. Deaf comedy jam was a stepping stone.
Starting point is 00:55:08 It wasn't a career move. Even though we had a dope career doing it, we was all for nine different seasons. I would have kept going for nine more. But it was a stepping stone. It was the next thing. It's always an album. And then, you know, the next thing. The next thing, I always try to innovate.
Starting point is 00:55:22 This is why I think I don't, I try not to follow, I try to give something that people might want that they never seen before because we, especially in right now, we have abundance of everybody doing everything. Everybody's a rapper, everybody's a stripper, everybody's everything. Everybody got something to fucking say.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Everybody's a name of a podcast. Everybody got a podcast. You know, but see, no, there's nothing wrong. No, there's nothing wrong with the podcast. It's who's doing it. That's right. That's what it is. Just like everybody ain't King Capri.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Everybody can't do everything. You know what I'm saying? You know, like the album thing. Now everybody's supposed to be making albums. That's why the album narrative went down. You're right. Because motherfucker make an album and have 12 garbage records on there and one good song. So now you go get the one good song.
Starting point is 00:56:12 That's what they turn the game. That's what, listen, who do we blame? Do we bring radio? Do we blame the DJs? Because that's what they changed the game in. I look at it like this. Listen, hold on. Let me say my point.
Starting point is 00:56:22 You ain't even say nothing yet, brother. No, because I'm like Keith Capri. See, what I think the 80s was the classic era for hip hop for me is because it was all about New York City. Right? Mm-hmm. You had K. You had fucking Eric B. Rakim, Big Daddy King, Slick Rick, Koo D, fucking, you have records like self-destit.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You have self-destruction. You have self-destruction. Stastastatic. That's a sonny. Stetsasanic. Stets. Saying it wrong. You had a couple of jigs.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You had a couple of jigs. Let's name more. You had DJ Red Alert. You had, um, um, um, what's my man? The list goes on and knowing, though. We get it. There's just go, there's so many DJs, it, for me, the 80s was like, and then you always got to say Ralph McDaniels.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Because I'm the nigga that was in the crib. When I hear that, uh, da, da, nah, da. He don't get the credit he deserved. He definitely dope, man. He's before. B, E, T, all this shit. He don't get the credit. The United States, he don't get the credit with the time.
Starting point is 00:57:22 When you used to hear that, it did it, did it. It was like, at that point. That shit was like on Soul Train. Yeah, as a, you were. As a kid, it was so trained in that. Right. Soil Train was on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:57:34 You know what I was doing that line. You want to look on that shit for the chicks. That's when you see girls in tight outfits as a kid, you know what I mean? But, like, when I heard that, then-da-da-da-da-da. And Big Daddy Kane is on there with the big chain.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Right? Hey, we'll give me the dog. Slick Rick. Like for me, like even run DMC, classic shit for me was, it's Christmas time, man, Hollis, Queens, mrs. Because that was like a Christmas song, like a Christmas album. That was just, for me, those are like the best times in my life, man, 80s, man, block parties, DJs scratching, you know, there was actual turn, like, like for me, I don't know how to mess
Starting point is 00:58:17 with CDJs and not. I'm in rough hands and like I went to Grand Master Vic parties. Like I went to Jamaica Avenue to buy mixtapes, dog time, Grand Master Vic. Then he came, Clue, you changed the game. We fuck with you, Klu, change the game. I like blends. You know what I'm saying? I like, we had our share.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That's the Queens anthem. Oh, Troubles. I was in the parties, Grand Master. So for me, I was like, yo, this is classic hip hop. Rest in peace, the Freaky Tidal, Lois Boys, remember when they came. I was around, like I was in the streets, like listening to that, but as a kid, Ralph McDaniels, bro. Talk about that man.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Like Ralph McDaniels, that time in hip hop, to me, the 80s was all about New York. Yeah, he deserve it, man. He deserved to get more recognition than he got, man. You know what I'm saying? He really put it in. You know what I'm saying? You really put it, you know what I'm saying? And that'd be the problem.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It would be the ones that really care about it, they don't get the recognition and they're supposed to. And the ones that really don't give a shit, you know, they come in the show late. You know, they think. they get on stage with a thousand people, they come do two songs, they rhyming over their record. They don't really care.
Starting point is 00:59:27 You know what I'm saying? They care about the wow factor. Look at me. I'm here. Look at me. It becomes that. You know what I'm saying? But when you,
Starting point is 00:59:34 when you, when you could tell when somebody that is on stage and they, like, I don't like to put myself in it, but I have to use it. When I'm on stage, I look at myself as if I'm in the crowd,
Starting point is 00:59:47 watching me and what would make me like me. What would make me want to come back and watch me again? What would make a promoter pay to have me come back again? What would make these people pay again to come see me again? You know what I'm saying? So I become them. It's never about me. And a lot of times, a lot of different artists and people, it becomes about them.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And that's where the fall off comes at. They might be popping for that minute. But as soon as they think it's about them, that's when you see the fall off come. It's never about you because these are the people that put the money in your pocket to pay your lights. So how do you not give them the best you can give them? How do you not be humble enough to show that they're part of you and they're inclusive?
Starting point is 01:00:31 You know what I'm saying? We're not fucking better than nobody. We just got better job. We might have a better job. But we shit and tickle and fucking. Just the real shit though. You're better than everybody. You're better than everybody.
Starting point is 01:00:42 No, no. But it's the real shit though. It's the real shit. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Just cocky back there. I don't want to hear this modest. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yo, listen, bro. No, this is what I'm... You know what I'm... Being being one of the greatest ever all time, right? What the fuck is the mindset of like... Because being a DJ is the toughest job. People say being a rapper is the toughest job. But being a DJ is the toughest job.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Y'all might get shot at less. Of course, right? Definitely. Yeah, y'all get shot at less. So you're a little bit better than the rapper. But think about this. What's the mindset? I'm kicking.
Starting point is 01:01:17 right? Okay, how do I work this crowd? Am I going reggae? Am I going hip hop? Am I going R&B? Am I going Spanish music? Like, how does a DJ? Because you know what I'm saying? How do you know how to move the crowd? Like, what would be your advice to a DJ? Like, if I was DJ and I'm in fucking London, what are you going to tell me play Afro beats or if I'm in New York in Harlem, like what is, tell me what's the mindset? That's what I want to. For years and years that I've been doing this shit. I've been traveling all over, right? It's your job to know what's going on in that city.
Starting point is 01:01:58 So I will call the top DJ out in the city or the promoter out in the city and say, yo, what's popping? What's the top 10 things popping in that city? And by the time I get to that city, I'm doing that. And those people are surprised because these records, if I'm playing, let's say this music, Those records are never heard nowhere else. They just pop it in that one city and it's an underground thing.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Right. So when I come and play that shit, they're like, how the fuck he knows that? Oh, you do your homework. It been like that for years. How do you play that record first? Yeah. So when I play it, the crowd is losing it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Oh, you're a fucking genius. And this is all over. If I'm in Alaska, I know what's popping in Alaska. Thank you for the secrets. You bummeds DJs. I just gave y'all one-on-one just now. You bum-ass DJs. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Now, I do Kit Capri make the transition of rapping now. Because now you rap, I even get a lot of, like, DMs on Instagram or a lot of ads. And I'd be thinking I'm getting like a personal message like, yo, what's up, my nigga? But it'd be like, nah, nigga, check out this new shit I'm spitting. Like, it was good. So how did the transition happen with that, kid? It never was a transition. My first, before there was a rough ride as a cash money, a no limit, a bad boy,
Starting point is 01:03:15 Kicky Pree had a rap album, Kickypree to Tate. Oh, okay. Right. So. Through your homework. Rap records never been my bread and butter. I make rap records because I want to. DJ should always been my bread and butter, right?
Starting point is 01:03:27 So I didn't make records every year. You know what I'm saying? You know, like that. So like I said, when I did the first album, it was a rap album. The second album was a production album. I only rhymed an album twice. My next album after that was 24 years ago, which was 24 years later, which was the love album, which I put out in 2022.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Since then I've been putting records out up until last. last week. But I only have three, four albums, the hoodie album, three, four albums throughout all these years because it never been my bread and butter. I didn't want to deal with all the... Everything it comes with. It comes with, especially to make my type of album, clearances and all that shit. You know what?
Starting point is 01:04:01 Let me just do it when I want to do it. And now that we in the everywhere, you ain't got to have no handcuffs on you. You know what I'm saying? You can do things. Social media just get to have fun. I want to put this shit out. You can just do it. Got you.
Starting point is 01:04:14 You don't think there's a point in time where, like, if y'all agree with this, because this is how I feel, that people try to, like, devalue the DJ. Because, like I said, okay, let's go, let's go. No, I'm tell you, just, we go from the 80s. Terminator, look, terminate. You love this 80s. You don't want, go ahead, go ahead. You don't let people talk.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I always let you talk. Let me talk. Let me explain my synopsis, nigga. Right? Right? You heard that, that nigga. That's what it's called. You know he'd been drinking a lot today.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Let me do my shit. Go ahead. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Right? So what I'm saying, like, in the 80s, right?
Starting point is 01:04:57 We knew who Terminator what? Terminator X, right? Terminator X. He had the big glasses. Yeah. We knew Jamaster J. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Let me think. Who was slick? We knew Eric B and Rock him, right? Who was Slick Rick DJ again? Do you know? Vance White, was his DJ? But at that point, he still... I like how you just stopped that question.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I forgot, Slip Rick, because I know he always had the can go and shit. Let me say, I ain't know he was. I'm like, again. Now look, that was an important time of the DJ. Then you fast forward to like, what you say, the 90s, where you had... Kid Capri was still... He was in the 80s, but the 90s you had Kit Capri.
Starting point is 01:05:39 The 80s, we would say, what? The 80s, red alert. We would say, what years were at the 80s? Reddell was going to 80s. I'll give him the 80s too. Yeah. What was the shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:47 What are you going with it though? What I'm going with it. I'm not trying to confuse you. Because you're confusing me, kid. Y'all now let me finish my further synonymous. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:05:59 It's a synops. Look, the 80s, the DJ was relevant, like, to an extent where you was watching Eric B as much as Rock Kim. Let me keep going. Let me keep going. I know what you're about to say. I'm a hussy. The 90s, even like, what I'm saying is like, even in the 90s, you had King Capri, you
Starting point is 01:06:19 had Flex, anything, they had albums at that point. Like, King Capri had an album, Flex had an album. Clue had an album. Before DJ Callet, it was more like, now now you only see DJ Callet with an album. No disrespect to him, but it was just more shit. Like a Flex album would come out and you'd be like, oh shit, we got this free. Kikapri, oh shit, he might have this freestyle from a nigga from Harlem. He might have some big L shit.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Klu, oh, Klu, oh, he got a Nause freestyle. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. It just seemed like it was just more to DJs. It was just more bad. It was just more value to it. I'm not, and I love all the DJs till this point now. That's why we got them on the show, but I feel like niggas don't give just do to certain DJs.
Starting point is 01:07:07 That or DJs in the game, period, like how they used to in the merits. That was my snobics. Let my man, he can't sit synopsis that, kid, let me. Do y'all agree or no? I want to hear his take on this. I want to know what the question is. No, do you feel like, like, niggas, like sometimes, like, a nigger like you, we got on the show, like, it's important to have you on the show to show to show how important you are to hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Like, sometimes I feel like niggas. You said the DJ position got paused, like, is not bad as much as it used to be. Yeah, like, in the 80s, 90s to now. When something gets, all right, let me back up. Back up. Like, they was the stars, nigga. In the 80, before rap records, right, it was Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. It was Grand Wizard Theater on the Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:07:56 It was Charlie Chase and the Cold Cross brothers. What was the DJ name first, right? Records came in, and then DJs were scratching on the records a little bit. Right? But then they didn't need DJ scratching on the records. they started making records they were making records with bands right so when they didn't need the DJ they'd be scratching on the record no more the name wasn't there no more standing in the front now when the 90s come you got people like premiere that's scratching on the record but it's a
Starting point is 01:08:27 different type of hip hop now it's more advanced now right now when you get to the mixtape ever with me right now it becomes a one man's show i don't need a rapper you I don't need none of this shit. I could do everything, right? That transformed it to the tape. Now, the tape got so popular that we started getting album deals now to make it, to make, to take artists and I was the first one. Take artists, put them together, make an album.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Right, right. Now when something gets hot and everybody does it, eventually it's going to get warm. It's going to get warm. It's not going to stay around because everybody's doing it. That probably ain't supposed to be doing it. You see what I'm saying? That goes for anything.
Starting point is 01:09:19 So that's, listen, one day somebody said, I'm going to get a tattoo. And everybody got fucking tattoos. One day somebody said, I'm going to smoke a hookah. Nobody knows what hookah. Everybody starts smoking hookah to sound cool. You don't even know what that shit is. We've seen that overseas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 This is what I'm saying. When something gets hot, we overdo it until it ain't hot no more. How many DJs have albums? It was only flex, you, me, Tony Touch, flex, clue. There's a lot of them. Yeah, it's probably been a lot of . Cali, like, it's- No, it wasn't that many though.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I mean, no, it wasn't that many, of course not. Flex, you said Tony Touch, you, Flex, Clue. That's two piece, K Slay used to be put down. Oh, that's a piece case lay. Yeah. That's really. I mean, that's a good handful for where we came from where DJs wasn't looked at to do that.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So keep that in mind, like, you know, I set the trim of soundtrack to the streets and I open the door. You know what I'm saying? But it still didn't bring us to where we on the front page of magazines. They, you know, we're on the, you know, we being highlighted the way we're supposed to be
Starting point is 01:10:19 highlighted at award shows and, you know, shit like that. It's still a long way. Like, I fought for the fact of I'm not going to be treated like some nigga playing music. You know what I'm saying? Like, just playing records. You're going to put me center stage like you put the hit artist. You ain't put me on no bottom of no flyer. You ain't treat me like that.
Starting point is 01:10:36 You're going to treat me like an artist. I'm going to get paid the same. same way because here's the science of it. If I'm taking a room that, and I'm feeling this, if you get an artist and he fills this room, sells it out, and you put me in that same room and I sell it out. This man's on stage for two hours doing two songs. His hit record, his first record, maybe another record, he's out of the door, he even going to give you no real show.
Starting point is 01:10:57 I'm there for two hours shaking this shit, same amount of people, same amount of bread. You're going to pay me the same way you're paying him. Where are you going to look at it because I'm playing other people's music and I'm a DJ is any different, it's a performance. At the end of the day, if I'm doing my job better than him, it ain't worth more than what he's supposed to get, or the same. Nah. So me standing on that made me become who I became.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I knew how to say no to people very early. Nah, I'm good. Give it the next one. Give it to the next one. Give it to the next. You know what I bring to the table. I know what kind of man. One time a dude walked up with me, I did a show,
Starting point is 01:11:33 I filled up four floors, sold it out. He got so excited. He said some shit. shit to me, he wasn't supposed to say. He read up with me, yo, kid, yo, you killed this shit. That shit was crazy. Yo, I made $250, $210,000 on you just on the ball alone. I was like, word?
Starting point is 01:11:50 All right. And from that day on, I got what I wanted. Got you. I think it was excited. He made that bread. Exactly, because look at it this way. He ain't mad at him, though. Look at this way, right?
Starting point is 01:12:01 For years. So it was just your name on that fly? Just my name on the fly. This is all over the country. This is everywhere I go out of the country. This is islands everywhere. I feel that shit by myself. I don't need no artists.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I don't need none of that shit. I sell out where we go. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what we built up. But you're making money from the bar. You're making money from the food. You're making money from the parking. And you ain't paying this to the artist.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So how do you bitch about what I want from that door? You pay me what I want. But with that, but with that, you got to bring a certain amount of artistry to that stage to demand that. Everybody can't demand that. Everybody can't demand that. And if you're going to demand that, you have to bring what backs that up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:48 And that's where we get a little bit entitled, where we think we got a little hit record out and we pop because we got to hit record out. Okay, record is going. What are you going to do for me to hear your next record or come to your show with enjoy you and buy your merch? Are you going to... That's what I'm saying. And that's all a whole big picture.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Got you. Before you get in this business, you gotta know that. Because you be here today going tomorrow. I don't watch motherfuckers come, the day be here. It be here. Today they can't get a show. DJing is like rappers. It's competition.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And he know that. I know he ain't going to not admit to that. And I'm gonna tell you why. It should be different. Like, when you're a big dog, and I know Flex and Kit Capri, all these niggas do that. Like, you know how like the first DJ be there? He opening.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Kid Capri would be like, yo, tell that nigga don't play certain records until I get there. No. No, I'm just saying, maybe not him. Maybe not you. I said you don't do that. But look, not you.
Starting point is 01:13:45 When you were a big dog, I thought you was allowed to do that. Let me tell you. If you were open, listen. No. If you were open, you know, let me speak. Let me break it down, yeah? Let our guest talk. That's not how it goes.
Starting point is 01:13:56 How it goes is because I want people to get their money's worth. Right? I'm not the dude that's happy to do your fucking event. I'm happy to do your event if everything is treated the way it's supposed to treat for the people that pay to get in to come see me. They're the number one thing. Now, me, not the promoter. They are the number one thing.
Starting point is 01:14:18 So I don't want to come in a show and the DJ that's trying to sound like Kit Capri plays the shit that Kickapri plays before Kit Capri get a chance to play at the long time. Right? Okay. So what I've done was paid for a opening. DJ for years all the way up until now. To come in, he plays a certain amount of shit that's supposed to be played for opening, and then I do whatever needs to be done that. So there's no random DJ never opening up for you.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I thought that was the goal. There's times we have DJs opening up, but here's the problem. I will go to them and tell them what we need to do to make this shit work in a good way, right? He would yes me to death. I walk in there. He's doing something totally different. I don't say nothing, you do what you want to do, but you won't work with me no more.
Starting point is 01:15:09 You see what I'm saying? But the dude that did listen to me, which is like my man Jesse, right? Jesse James, he'd been working with us. He's from Indiana. He'd been working with us for years. I told him to do a certain amount of things. He did it.
Starting point is 01:15:23 This dude goes around the country with me for now. You know, technician to DJ. You know, technician to DJ. Of course, the Lox. He's been with me for 25 years. You know what I'm saying? You've been opening with me for a long time. So these are dudes that really understand and care about what's going on.
Starting point is 01:15:38 And they know it's not about them. It's about what the event is. But you have dudes that don't think that way. I'm thinking about the people. I'm not thinking about me. No, I thought it was like DJ Golden Rule. No disrespect. But if you're opening, it should be a golden rule.
Starting point is 01:15:52 That's how I learned. It's the same thing as if you was opening for 50, right? You Tony Yale, you ain't going to be doing 50 records before Ricky, 50 come out there. That's what I'm saying. Right. So if you hire me to, now, these are not my records that I'm playing. But these, but you hired me to play these records. You know what's the highest records in.
Starting point is 01:16:09 You want that shit. So if you want that impact, how you expect me to play around somebody that's playing the shit that I need to play to make that impact go? Even though there's a million records to play, I don't know what this man's playing. So I'll come here playing where he's playing. I'm not going to get the impact. Exactly. That's the problem. It's not about what you play.
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's about what I know you're playing. And when you play. And when you play. You know they have to play that shit. 10 o'clock at night. That's what I'm saying. But you want to get it in because you want to get it in the show you can get it in.
Starting point is 01:16:38 You know what I'm saying? Like that's not, that's just, I thought it was like Golden Rule, I alert like, see if I'm being DJ, Roughhins, twins and them and like tape master them. Like they were like, if my man, if hardcore, you know hardcore, he was like the opening act for Roughheads. And hardcore, he would tell hardcore, no, nigga, don't play this.
Starting point is 01:16:55 It was like golden rule. Like, nah, you, you know, open it. You can't play the new soul or soul. My thing is, To me, I thought it was Gold D. Listen, it doesn't matter what you play. I don't care. I can play the same shit after you're going to still do what I do.
Starting point is 01:17:07 It doesn't really matter. At the end of the day, there is, you should know if you call yourself a good DJ or good performer or good anything, you should be able to do shit with C&D. Yep. C&D joints come in there, shake that shit. And then when you do your own events and you have an opener or you want your event to move a certain kind of way because you have a vision of how you wanted to be done. the same way a promoter has a vision of how he wants his event to go.
Starting point is 01:17:36 It's the same shit. It's a strategy as a science. Don't be mad because somebody has a science and you don't. You're just free falling. You glad to be attached to the shit. So you let to put you anywhere, talk to you any kind of way, do whatever to you, and you just dare because you want to be attached to the event. Where I'll tell you go take your event and shove it up your ass
Starting point is 01:17:54 if you ain't going to respect what I need to be done. You ain't going to come and tell Jay how to rhyme on no mic. You ain't going to tell him to stand in no corner. You ain't going to tell Uncle Murder. can't do his rap up at his show. I told him I'll do the rap. You can't, like, so you're going to tell me how to do what I do and how it should be done? You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:10 This is what I'm saying. And so we got to hit that and like I said, for years it been the DJ was looked at as he's the bottom like he's the bottom one like, you know what I'm saying? Like dog, but at the end of the day, everybody fucking relies on the DJ for your concerts, for your radio be played, your record be played on radio, for your mixtape shit, you know what say the better producers of DJs. Like, you've allowed a DJ for every day, but you wanna look at him as he's the bottom.
Starting point is 01:18:38 You wanna put him over here on the stage, put him on the bottom of the fly, talk to him any kind of way where you're artists walking in talking to the DJ crazy. Like, you see that they were happening. Respect the DJs, man. Stop playing. Come on, we love this.
Starting point is 01:18:49 This is what I'm saying. So this is why I started back. This is why I started rapping again and going back in the beats and doing my shit again. Because when I put live from New York out, real rappers will look at it like, oh, that's kids just. putting out a party record, he's rapping, that's cute.
Starting point is 01:19:05 And then I put talk heavy on their ass. Definitely. And when I drop talk heavy on their ass, that let them know, you gotta push your pen. You know what I'm saying? And it's DJ Kit Capri's on you that. So don't look at us like we just won, you're doing one thing.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Nah, we do it all. Right. Right. So that's what, that's why I stand tall and stand on it like that. And, you know, that's how a lot of people should think of me. It doesn't have to do with the DJ, but there's anything.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Stand on your shit. Don't let nobody tell you how. you see your vision and how your vision is supposed to go because they don't see it that way. They don't see the word for it or they don't see that it's supposed to be that way. Oh, he's a D. Fuck, you call me a Diva? Because I don't want my shit situated a certain way. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Definitely. You're going to tell your boss he's a Diva because he wants you to work a certain way, mama. No, no, this is me, man. Yeah. Kri, man, I got a question for you, right? If you had an old Caucasian crowd, what's the first place, record? you play or Caucasian crowd.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Probably start with I love rock and roll. I love rock and row. Something like that. You know that song? Murdo I didn't know that song. I didn't know that song. I never heard that song. I love rock and row.
Starting point is 01:20:18 That's a good one. I did. Look at that. Okay. So say we is in Washington Heights was the first record, Paul. We, thank men. We in a well, Spanish. Spanish Harwich.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Call them. What's the first record? In Spanish Harmon, probably going to play something about Daddy Yankee. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's that, uh, gasoline or something? That's old, but yeah. Gasolina, mrs.
Starting point is 01:20:43 It's going to work. That one with that one. And now, you know, bad bunny out. Definitely you're going to go bad. So you got a whole African crowd. Shout to all my Africans. Say we got an African crowd. What are you going with?
Starting point is 01:20:58 Probably going to go with the, probably going to go with, uh, I'm probably going to go with the Soka jump, whoopee. Yeah, she's going to shake. What about Jamaican? Jamaican, just about anything Jamaican. That's a good answer. No, because that's the mind.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I'm just saying. I'm just saying, I put anything in Jamaica, that shit's going to shake. That's just, no, I'm just saying, just the mindset of a DJ. That's why I think y'all job. is kind of harder than the rapper. Of course it is. That's how I'm going to. You get up there.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Well, I'm not going to say you. We're not going to say that, man. Your job is very hard. Your job is very hard. It's hard than the singers, too. No, no, no. I'm going to give you a good example. If murder, if, like, if you was to say,
Starting point is 01:21:49 yo, yeah, yo, we got a DJ in Boston, right? Let me talk now. Don't come me off. Nobody cut you all, brother. Let me talk. Yo, he loved your kid. For the record, he loves him. See, for me talk.
Starting point is 01:22:00 That's like his slogan. I'm a rapper and, look, I used to DJ. I'm a rapper and I used to DJ. So if you tell me, if they say, yo, it's an all-white crowd Caucasian and we go to Boston, don't say nothing to murder, Kate Capri. What record would you play? And Boston, the all-white record? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I might throw some Post Malone on or something like that. Wrong. And I shout to Post Malone. You know what I'm playing? You know what kill the crowd? What? D-da-da-da-nam. Sweet Caroline.
Starting point is 01:22:32 But you ain't going to start with that. I'm starting with that. So good. So good. That's why your name is not DJ. I'm not you. I'm not you, but that's what I'm starting. Thank you, kid.
Starting point is 01:22:46 So what you start? I'm back. I want to start with that shit. You never heard of sweet Caroline? But again, there's a science. Of course I heard, I heard, but there's a science. There's a science to everything. You don't know, no.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I'm starting with that. I bet you I moved the crowd. You play sweet cow line. I bet you money I moved the crowd. Now when you walk in. I'm talking about all Caucasian crowd. Now when you walk in, man. That's my first record.
Starting point is 01:23:10 That's what my mind. You better play some EDM. I'm gonna start DJ. Now that might not work either. Hmm. It might. So what would you play? But it depends.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Because it's different white crowds. Exactly. There you go. You have I'm saying. You got a different. So that's the same with us. Like you got the- What would you play? What would you play?
Starting point is 01:23:26 What would I play in the white crowd? That's real. It depends. It depends on, you know, who's in front of me. You got to look at the crowd. You got to look at the crowd. I walk in, I'll look at see what he's going on right there. I knew what to do.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Jim Washington, I just look, see, done. Doesn't matter if it's an arena. You just got the eye. He just got the eye. I know what he meant. He just got the eye. I've been so used to doing it all my life. That shit is a second nature.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Like when he go to DC, you know he gonna play some go-go shit. It's the way you play it, though. I know. It's the way you play it. That's the way you play. That's the way. You don't even know about go-go and DC. Sweet Carol.
Starting point is 01:24:00 In Boston, shout to Boston. Sweet cat. I'm not listening to the kick of peace with that. Pet 10. Now, this is the real report. I want to know this. How's you and Funk Flex relationship these days, y'all? Y'all are you on the good space?
Starting point is 01:24:11 Because I remember a couple years ago with some back and forth on lines. So don't sit down to say it was never nothing, nigga. Because there was some drama. I'll say this. It was drama. Personally, yeah, I didn't. Never know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:22 All right. It was more internet, radio type, shit like that. Competition? Competition. Okay, there you go. Okay. It's all it was. I just wanted to know because I never spoke to your body.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Flex cool today. Okay, got. But after time, Flex was, he needed a little tap on his hand for a minute because he was, he was, he's flex. Like, you know, he says what he says, he does what he does. You know, you step in my arena, you know, it goes away it goes. And it was all dope though, but that's my dog. Did you hear that? Did you hear what he said, man?
Starting point is 01:24:55 You step in my arena. my arena. That's how anybody supposed to feel. Like, you know what I mean? I'm just saying the way he said it. That's like cocky shit. I like it.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yeah. I would love to see DJ battles. The game got soft. Keep it real. It's a real. How would a DJ battle? I'd love to see DJ battles. I'd love to see DJ battle.
Starting point is 01:25:16 You know. The instance, right? Like you and the flex having y'all your little, y'all going back in four a minute, right? Now, how would just settle something like that? Like, I'm not. How would a DJ battle and how would you come up with a winner? It's all about playing the best records.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Whoever shook the crowd the best. There you go. What do you mean? Has that been done before with the DJs like that? DJ battle? Yeah. Because the game, you know, murder, man. Let me murder.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Let me, this is the real report. I'm talking about it being done recently. Like, you know, DJ battle. They ain't done that shit. No, recently. Yeah. Yeah. You got DMCs every year.
Starting point is 01:25:51 You got, it's DJ battles. Oh, all I'm saying is. You're talking about knowing he's telling me what happens every year. But you talk about party. You're talking about a battle that me and Flex would have did. Me and Flex. If it was me and Flex or anybody that do what I do. How would that?
Starting point is 01:26:02 How would that got set up? Okay. And how would have been to battle? All right, got you. You know what I'm saying? Whatever time we're saying. I know what you're getting in that hour. No, what I'm saying is this, right?
Starting point is 01:26:13 That's like how niggas don't got the slam dunk concerts, no stars do it. If you had DJ battles like a flex versus a kid Capri, nigga, not on that would be crazy. Look, not on the verses, though, but like back in the days, like in the, in the, in a, the club like the tunnels, like in the tunnel, if you caught Keith Capri had a set and Flex had a set. That's classic shit. But see, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying? I'd rather that.
Starting point is 01:26:38 I don't- That's what it was about. I didn't want that. Listen, that's what it was about. I didn't want that with me and Flex. Okay. Let's get that straight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:26:49 I don't get, I don't look for the wild fact about knocking another man down. You know what I'm saying? So I don't pause. Yeah, like, yeah, Paul got knocking. Yeah, that was a little crazy. Right, that was a little crazy. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, you know, I don't get nothing from that.
Starting point is 01:27:05 So I, you know, but it was necessary because of what was going on. And the shit was funny too, because I was putting a lot of funny shit, you know, and, you know, it became what it became. But he has said things to a lot of people that never say anything back. You know what I'm saying? And this time something was set back in a way that it was a little stronger than you probably thought it was gonna be.
Starting point is 01:27:31 But it didn't need to go no further than that. Of course. And like I said, it wasn't personal. Got you, definitely, definitely. If he would have called me right in the middle of all that shit going on and said, kid, I need you for something, I would have been right there. Got you.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Got you. You know what I mean? You guys, this is how I would look at it. It's all about like, like I said, you would love to see kick a pre, and not beef or nothing, but flex. in a club together and whoever had the best set. To me, it's always been about the best set.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Like, you be in the party in South Side. See, I don't like that, though. Hold on. I don't like that. But why you don't like that? But why you don't like that? Because that's the same shit as the Kendrick and the Drake Beef. It doesn't become about skill.
Starting point is 01:28:13 It become about knocking the one that lost down. It becomes about shooting at the one that lost down. Like, it becomes that. It don't become about he was dope. He won, done. It becomes some other shit. And then with this internet shit, it magnifies it to a whole other level. So that's why when you heard Jay the other day say that he didn't think bad-ling should
Starting point is 01:28:34 be involved with anything. And nowadays, that's what he meant. Not that this is based all bad. We battle- Of course. Of course. But when it comes to knocking down careers and knocking down and making another narrative, motherfuckers get shot at and all that, now it becomes something different. I mean, people been getting shot at with hip-hop beef.
Starting point is 01:28:53 That been a part of it. That been a part of it. You got to have tough skin with it. You got to have tough skin with it. Listen, K-L-R-S won in MC. Listen, Kit-C-Pree. Everybody got, everybody got a comment. You know, you're tripping.
Starting point is 01:29:10 You know, K-RS won. Everybody got a comment. MC Shambi, we know hip-hop was always about competition, bro. Like, it ain't nothing negative. I know sometimes it might go to some, let me talk. That ain't that. Look, but like, like, even 50 said, we from Queens. Come on, y'all motherfuckers got shoutouts on all that shit.
Starting point is 01:29:32 That nigga, K.R.S. And Queens keep on faking it. Nick, we were still listening to that shit like, but you know what? But you know what? Yeah. Brons keep on taking it. And Queens keep on faking it.
Starting point is 01:29:45 We just like, what? But it stayed there. But look, the beat was so hard. And what he was saying was so crazy, niggas had to respect it. MC shit and beef. We liked it. Nah,
Starting point is 01:29:56 and fucking Jay. Don't act like you didn't like that beat. Shit was incredible. Exactly. But that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, no, no, no, no. You ain't going to do that. Nah, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:30:06 You ain't doing that. That's not what I said. What I said was, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about when it turns from, y'all, for battle is being, from a battle being two dope motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:30:18 to people getting shot at because one don't like the other one. because the crowd, the same thing. They're shooting that Drake at his fucking crib because, and they're Kendrick fans. Because they're Kendrick fans. When it becomes that, that's something different. Yeah, we don't know that.
Starting point is 01:30:34 We don't know that. That's what I'm talking about. So, yeah, of course you want battle. It keeps your sharp. It keeps your edge sharp. Like, yeah. And it's exciting for hip-hop. We want to the best of the world.
Starting point is 01:30:46 It's what it is. It's exciting. It's beautiful. If it stays where it's supposed to stop. like Jay and Nas did. They did a battle. Next thing they're doing business with you. Bullshit.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Bullshit. How's that bullshit? Bullshit. That's not what happened. Noss talked about the baby seat. The baby seat shit with Nass daughter, nigger. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:31:08 What you're talking about? Jay said in the battle nothing should ever go too far, right? That's what he said in the shit, right? When we look at the, well, in his song, what did he say? It's not about what he said. I got it on the baby seat, nigga. It's not about, Jayo. You're not paying attention.
Starting point is 01:31:22 You can't say. They're going to show this on the camera. Show it. You're not paying attention. You can't say, yo. It's not about what he say. It's about the end result. It was a battle.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Regardless what he said, they ended up doing business afterwards. Not nobody shooting at each other. Okay. That's what I understand. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Let me rebutt that. Let me rebutter. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no. no, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 01:31:50 No, fuck you. No, no, fuck you. No, fuck you. No, fuck you. No, fuck you. Listen, hold you, pause. Pause. Pause on that.
Starting point is 01:31:59 A whole bunch of pause. Let me say, hold on that. Hold up. Pause, pause, super pauses. I done the pause again. But get your point across. You know, listen. It was too many fuck you right there.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Pause. What I'm saying to you is, listen, Jay said, listen, Jay said, no, because I hate one of my, I'm keeping real. Jay said in the interview, right? Get your point across, right. Jay said. in the interview that battle rap goes too far, right? Yeah. And him and Nas battle, did he refer to being in his baby mom's call and coming on the, excuse
Starting point is 01:32:32 me, YouTube, mute that, something on the car seat. Didn't he say that in that battle? Okay. Now, listen, let me say something. And he's going far enough for somebody who's shot at. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Verbaly it got crazy saying that.
Starting point is 01:32:46 One thing I got to say is, yo, you better. He's drunk, no. He, he, he, he little. I got to give my brother. I got to give my brother. I got to give him his props on that. You know what though? I got to give him his props to that because when you do say, when you do say,
Starting point is 01:32:59 battle on some things go too far, right, between him and nods, that was a little too far, right? That was too far for Jay. I'm not going to front. When you think about it, it was, it could have went to the next level. We lived for that shit. It didn't, right? It didn't. But behind saying something like that, it could have went to the next level.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Do you know how much personal shit? real battle rappers say to each other? We're not talking about them battle rappers, though, right now. Oh, you're about this. Yeah, what are you going on life? Now you're going on life. What's the difference? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:30 No, no, no. No, no. Because battle rappers is there in front of each other. They're saying certain things. They prepare for that, right? They, they, they, they're going to. DJs, y'all supplied the weapons for a be. We're not talking about that.
Starting point is 01:33:41 We're talking about, like, when you want to see certain shit, like you want to see. You surprised the weapons. Wait a minute. You want to see Drake. You want to see Drake versus Kendrick, right? But people did feel like that. like when the little pedophile things,
Starting point is 01:33:52 like, all right, that was going too far. When Drake started talking about the nigger BM and his girl and the kids and shit like that and baby might not be in his, people feel like, all right, now the battle was getting a little like, they're going a little left with it, right? But to criticize that, to say that, all I'm saying from what he was saying, right,
Starting point is 01:34:12 for Jay to say when certain things are going too far and then you mentioned something like kids and coming on baby seat, that was far and things could have went left. And we had social media. back then, right? Back then when Jay said that. If social media was alive back then, that shit could have went crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Yeah, no doubt. It could have went crazy. But of course, Jay matured now when he get it and he realized now, damn certain things you say, it could fuck up. You know what I'm saying? Because a nigga mature now when you get it, damn certain things shouldn't have been said back then, you know what I'm saying? But when you young one to come up, you don't understand that.
Starting point is 01:34:42 And when you're in the heat of battle, you don't really give a fuck what you're about to say. All you know is, I'm about to destroy this nigger. I don't give a fuck how I destroy him. I'm going to destroy him. It's battle, it's beef, I'm gonna destroy this nigga. But social media make it feel like nowadays, because everybody gonna have an opinion, everybody gonna comment on something.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Now people feel like they gotta hold their tongue or bite their tongue, or you can't say something now. But now, this shit was built off that. Like, really? Hip hop was built off that shit. You're the DJ. You're the arms dealer. If it's beat, you're gonna disrespect the nigga to the T.
Starting point is 01:35:12 The DJs are the arms dealers in the wall. Because once that Machiavelli shit come up, come with all that Machiavelli, y'all gonna play. Who shot you? You're gonna play that shit. You're gonna play that shit. You're gonna play that shit.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Kendrick's shit come out. Y'all gonna play that shit. Did you can't be biases, DJ? Y'all are the un-divist. Don't give a shit about that. I'm talking about nobody getting fucked up. You keep talking about battle rap. That's why I get confused.
Starting point is 01:35:35 No, no. I know what kid was trying to say. Thank you. I know what kid was trying to say. He was trying to say battle rappers say the most disrespectful shit to each other. But I don't know, it's different with the battle rappers and the rappers. That's what they get paid to do. It's a difference.
Starting point is 01:35:50 How? How? It's a difference because it's a whole, I don't know, I feel like it's just two different worlds. You talk about my mom's, I'm gonna punch you in your shit. You talk about my mom's in the bad one, I'm gonna punch you in your shit. You talk about my mom's on the record, I'm a punch you in your shit. But the battle rappers is built different for that because they, I guess they used to that.
Starting point is 01:36:10 They used to standing up in front of each other and disrespecting each other saying the most, they used to. But watch official battle. But let's keep it real. Let me ask both of y'all the question. And I'm going to ask y'all a question too, right? we'll say, right, like we'll watch the Big E and Tupac Beef, right? They was on Vibe Magazine, um, Billboard magazine.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Some of the biggest publications you've seen in your life was East Coast, West Coast. And you probably met Biggie and Park. Am I correct? Of course. Do you go, right? That was the biggest shit you've seen. East Coast, West Coast. You know, Shug Night at Defoeh Rowell?
Starting point is 01:36:42 We don't do the dancing. We don't do the singing. None of that. Niggas fed into, now let me talk to you about it. Every, the industry feeds into. all of that since way back then. East Coast, West Coast. It just wasn't on Internet.
Starting point is 01:36:55 It was more the magazines and all that shit. Word of mouth shit. And East Coast, West Coast, we knew it was a beef, right? When Biggie came with Who Shotcha? And Piffy came with, um, Machiavelli. We love that shit. The industry feed into it. The DJs play it.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Y'all scratching the shit out of a disc record. Come with, Wankster! Wakester! Y'all was just playing Jauru, but now you're playing 50. Wast her. Just was playing Tupon. Now you're playing Biggie. Like y'all niggas are the arms dealers.
Starting point is 01:37:24 And then when somebody gets shot, niggas is like, yo, peace, man. Yo, y'all niggas are the niggas that was spinning the shit. Hey! Bill Boyd, look, Billboard, Five Magazine. You know, what you got to say about that, you know, y'all. You got what you do.
Starting point is 01:37:38 You guys be playing. Y'all guys want to stop throwing white. Magazine. I love oil of y'all, but come on. Y'all, all the beef. Y'all love the East Coast, West Coast, beef. Everybody made money.
Starting point is 01:37:49 DJ, radio, stations, magazines, everybody made money. Cool jeans, Versace, he made money. Everybody made money off the Biggie two-pipe beef. And y'all niggas love that shit, nigga. Get out of here, bro. Unless you cut to a kid Kapi-show. To destroy it and just like, oh my God, somebody got shot.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Y'all emptied up. Y'all plays the shit out of Kendrick record. Then-da-da-da-da. No disrespect to him on you. Get-that. One singer starts shooting, we gotta keep it peaceful. I can't be saying. That's why I don't fuck with the industry.
Starting point is 01:38:23 I'm the nigga. Listen, I'm the nigga that big cancer. You can't cancel somebody that's fucking a shit. I couldn't walk on Ray Carlin. As 50. They banned me from Ray Carlin. So I've been canceled. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:38:35 You can't cancel me. But the industry's full of shit. Y'all amped shit up. DJ's scratching the shit. I'm damn damn damn. Yup. Damn, damn. Dane.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Flex all y'all nigg. Flex all y'all niggas. Dill damn. Once bullets start flying, you, we got to keep the peace, man. Where's the industry? Fuck out of here. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Fuck out of you. So, bullshit. Kill your fucking self. I don't get fucking do it. Kid Caprius. Kid was trying. He was trying, but he said, fuck it. I'm trying, man.
Starting point is 01:39:06 That's why the battle rappers is the only ones that could disrespect, niggas. Get out of head, man. You're crazy. Are you crazy, kid? I didn't say that. You said they're the most disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:39:14 They're the most disrespectful. They get paid to do that. They get paid to do that. But they know how to. They're the best at that. And nobody gets killed. Nobody gets shot. What, niggas, we get beat up, shot.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Oh, pistol whip. Oh, what you bugging. You get beat up that don't know what they're doing. Yo, you better watch smack. I'm talking about the real battle rappers, the real ones, the real, top tierers. They say some of the most craziest shit. And after the battle is over, they go on the drink.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Nah, niggas got shot. You bugging. Who got shot? Man, niggas got shot. We can look at it up. Man. Shot and pistol water. Shout to battle rites.
Starting point is 01:39:47 He's getting shot. Number matter. half half for punching niggas back in the days, nigga, what are you talking about? It was bad shit, magazines slapped with guns, all kind of shit. They'd be saying it in the raps later on.
Starting point is 01:39:58 You got to check it out. Kikapri, you got to do your homework. He said they'd be standing it in the raps later on yet? Yeah, yo, you know, you know, we're gonna pistol whipping, rob, niggins be saying that. He's saying, really happened.
Starting point is 01:40:09 What is? You think gangster shit don't happen to battle raps? Shout to the battle rappers. Talk to him. He's crazy. We don't have him on the show. He'd like it's kumbaya over there, nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Yeah. Okay. It's even more ganks over there. Oh, shit. What's my man that just got him from Jersey? I would know. You know. Oh, T-surf.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Si-surf. Sue surf. Sue surf. Come on, man. That nigga just get out the feds. That nigga was in the feds. That nigga was in the yard. You know his paperwork was correct, nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:38 He was a battle rapper. He got shot and all that, like 50 and walking the yard up top. Poo-Lock, nigger. I mean, there's exception. You talk about like it's kumbaya over this. over this. I'm not talking cool by I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Battle rappers is cool by y'all. Like I said, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Nobody didn't get killed. Yes, they are, nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Y'all kill y'all kill y'all. Y'all can't fucking. Y'all the niggas. You flex everybody. When we was dishing your root, flex was dropping bombs.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Nigel, boom. Yeah, flex, yeah. Y'all love that shit. Shut up with that shit. I know you love that shit. You moved the crowd, nigga. You came up or for all that shit. You was in the shit in the 80s when niggas was getting shot and taking the bullets out
Starting point is 01:41:29 they self back then, nigger. In the club in the Bronx. He know what I'm talking about, nigga? The 80s, nigga. Kid was not around nobody getting shot taking the bullet out there out there. He was in the castle and the fever. Real niggas was in that shit. I wasn't the feeder.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Oh, it wasn't the theater castle, my foot. But the castle, I thought the fever too. He put the fever to. Somebody gave me the wrong information. You never did the tunnel? He said, kid was in there when niggas getting shot and they took the bullet out they self. Nicky was in the Bronx in the castle.
Starting point is 01:41:56 They were like babies. Niggas was kidnapping niggas back then. Oh, big. You had to be a DJ back then? A whole lot happens to error. A whole lot, man. A whole lot. Kid been doing a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:42:09 He started a record label, all type of shit, man. All kind of shit. How did that record label come about, kid? How did your new record label come about, man? Making records, man. I want my own shit, do my own shit. Ain't got to answer nobody. That's right, man.
Starting point is 01:42:22 That's right. That's right. That's right. Like in 2023, I had caught cancer and shit. Yeah, I knew about that. Yeah, I knew about that. How was that whole experience, man? The whole, uh...
Starting point is 01:42:34 God is definitely good, man. You hear it with us saying. Yeah. Die-word. It's good. They had to die word cancer. They take thyroid out. And so at 2023, I ain't nobody knew how to do all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:45 stuff. I bought Derry Jee out in Yankee Stadium. I hosted the BET Awards. I did a lot of shit. And then when I got rid of it, that's when I told everybody about it. Since then, I started a business, Herbal Reset Plus, where I sell natural herbs from sours after Sausal for South Carolina me and my man Rom, we got together and started a business. And we sell everything from Cheney Root to Maca Root. We can find it somewhere online. Herbal Reset Plus.com. Got it all there. You know, you guys, man, because they're not going to tell you what's right for you.
Starting point is 01:43:19 They're going to make you keep paying that money as long as they keep making you pay that money. But if you go and you take initiative and go see what's going on and start using doing the right thing. Keep in mind a few months ago, maybe seven months ago, I was 267 pounds. I lost 67 pounds, 60 pounds in 20-month months. Congratulations on my brother. Congratulations, man. Congratulations. So I've been on my help shit since that incident.
Starting point is 01:43:42 You know what I'm saying? The cancer thing, how did you deal with that, like mentally and spiritually? That's what I'm saying. Like, dealing with that. You gotta be careful, kid. You gotta put that shit in the back of your head, murder. Because doing all the work I was doing, if you worrying about that, you won't be able to work. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:57 And then the worrying part is what makes you sicker. Right? So I put it in the back of my head. The main thing was go to all the appointments, do everything I was supposed to do on time. And when I got rid of it, the doctor said to me, you know, kid, like, I'm glad that you, he was like, I want to congratulate you. He was like, you know, you'd be surprised how many people were canceled and come back three months later, four months later, they'd have much further.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Now we got to work that much harder to get them, get them right. Some people we can't even get right because they stayed too long. So you did all your appointments, you made everything. So me doing that and getting right and God bless me to be good. God is good, man. That's what I say, you know, I'm going to just do so I eat different. I got a whole different lifestyle of how I do shit. So that's what kind of inspired the herb.
Starting point is 01:44:43 business and Montel Jordan as a matter of fact, you know, he had cancer. He just got rid of his cancer. He was buying my herbs from us. Oh, look at that. Right. So it's kind of helped them along the way. Be careful with that, though, kid. You know, doctors, once you start doing that shit, niggas come hit you.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Hey, man, come see me. Corporations come hit you with the, choochoo. Come and see me. Word. Dr. Sebi or all that shit. What do you think is be like, yo, I'm doing something with Dr. Sebi. Don't do anything. Shout to that.
Starting point is 01:45:08 And they in Houston, I fuck with that shit. And you just got to be careful with that shit. I don't think so. You don't see what, bro, you don't see what's going on. You ain't see all of them like, everything that's going on. So look, y'all ain't see how, like, all these, like, nuclear scientists got smoke, like, all these niggas, the astronaut niggas is here. Why are you putting this shit out there? I don't give a fuck, niggas can smoke me, nigger.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Damn, yeah. But like, all these, like, nuclear scientists, or you don't want to talk. You was talking about healing niggas, niggas. Yeah, you're talking about healing. They're going to hit you, you're trying to kill him. You're trying to kill him. Yeah, we do. No, I'm talking about, look, there was a whole bunch of scientists that got hit,
Starting point is 01:45:46 like mysteriously, like dying and missing. Like, so once the niggins talk about healing niggas, I got the herbs, don't go to these companies. Man, fuck that. Urbore resetplus. com. Come get the earth. We fuck with you. Maca root, shady root.
Starting point is 01:45:59 That's right. You know, sauce pomella. It's crazy. Sour sap. That's right. Dada, da da da da da. That's right. Go get your shit healthy.
Starting point is 01:46:08 All that good stuff, man. All that good stuff, man. You know, we got the world's greatest DJ here. Make sure y'all like, share, and subscribe. I know this is one of the fucking crazy episodes. We talked about the most legendary shit in hip hop. It's the real report. Signing out with my nigga turbulence.
Starting point is 01:46:24 No, I'm turbulence, Tony. You've been drinking too much of that Branson. You've been drinking too much of that Branson. Shout to 50 in the Branson, boy. Go ahead. Sign out, motherfuckerfax. This is a boy, Lynn, Lenny. We got King Capri in the building.
Starting point is 01:46:36 The legendary King Cip. Yo, take your ass to that YouTube and watch those. Those videos I got up there. Don't play yourself. Kick it pre-on-1 to Instagram and Twitter. Oh, yo. That's right. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:46:46 We forgot about his daughter music too. Talk about that too. Vina Love. Oh, shit. Vena Love is doing her thing. Make sure you go to a page and look at it all this shit. She is rocking crazy. Matter of fact, that's how artists of the week.
Starting point is 01:46:58 We sound a fucking out. Hold up. And my boy also got inducted to the Bronx Walk of Fame. Oh, shit. Shout to the BX, me. Yeah. The Bronx Walker fame, my boy. The Bronx created the Bronx created
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Starting point is 01:47:59 football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this.
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