Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Michael "Venom" Page on the pressures of the UFC, the rise from Bellator MMA, Building Community, & top 5 Kung Fu movies

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

Michael “Venom” Page joins Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for a wild episode of The Real Report as the UFC star breaks down his journey from growing up in a family full of fighters to becoming a 10-time world champion and one of the most entertaining names in MMA. MVP talks about the pressure of transitioning from Bellator to the UFC, balancing second jobs while training, the hardest parts of weight cutting, and why boxing and MMA are completely different worlds. The conversation also dives into his love for kung-fu films, giving his top 5 martial arts movies, why Jackie Chan inspired him, and his hilarious dislike for Steven Seagal. He also speaks on filming Road House 2 with Jake Gyllenhaal, training techniques, bareknuckle fighting, and the importance of teaching emotional control to kids through community programs. Plus, Yayo and Murda get hands-on with chokeholds and arm bar and Murda tries MVP’s famous knee kick.Go to https://baskandlatherco.com and use code REALREPORT for 20% offSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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all kinds of stuff like being an internet famous referee we're in the middle of a game this linebacker this linebacker walks up to me he goes a ref my mom wants you to wave at her what Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, Brett. My mama want you to weigh better. What? Where's she at?

Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clippers show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. You're choked that, Mike. Look at this. She's, just calm down. Adam's Apple. Yeah, because he talked too much.

Yeah, yeah. He didn't get stabbed. Right. Shut the shit. Oh. Bro. Bro. Ro!

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I'll have my fucking. Yeah. It's the talk of New York. It's the boy Litchetteette, Uncle Bernardo. And today we got the one man, army, Michael, Paige, Venom! Whoa! Whoa, whoa, man, some of my more, boys for the champion.

We're going to bring the big dogs to the show. Congratulations on your last fight. Definitely, man. We talk about that. Because me and murder missed the fight, but we would have loved to be there. Definitely. Oh, yeah, not.

I was a training. Yeah, yeah, you was, oh, you guys was close because I remember you guys was touring or something around that time. We was, we were somewhere in that time. Yeah, I'm not polling or something. I remember you guys, you guys telling me. But, yeah, it was good.

It wasn't, it wasn't, it was more of a frustrating one, more so because the guy that I was fighting, me and him have trained together regularly for a while now. Oh wow. And when we even got the fight, we were both like, you know, did you tell us, did you tell them that, you know, we trained, he's like, yeah, yeah, but they're just saying, they're not gonna, this is what they want.

And I was like, no disrespect to him. He's not ranked. He's kind of like up and coming, but I use, I like, we contact, I contact him. Anytime I got a fire that's tall and lean because he's got a good striking style. I use him. And I've heard him.

helped him out. It's like, I didn't really want to fight this fight. You know what I mean? So the fight, if I won the fight, but nothing really happened. Didn't really... Right, because he's learning all... Yeah, he knows these other stuff and it was just, it would just, it would just, it would just, it would just, like, you felt like you didn't really want to hurt him. Yeah, like that as well, a bit of a bit of both, like, it's like, I want to win and usually, you know, like my spectaculars, I like to... Yeah, because I don't want to... Yeah, come on. It's like a... Yeah, yeah. You know, come on, Bernie. He's Mr. Flash, you know, you know. You know,

You know, you're striking opponents, the high knee kick, which I'm going to do the murder. He can't. He got to get in shape. He got to get in shape. I'm too in shape for that. He's in shape. He's trying that high kick.

I'm hitting that shot up. He ain't insane. Mike's going to knock him out so fast, Mike. I'm going to knock him out so fast. You know what? You know what? You know what you can put other rappers. All right?

I'm going to try the high knee kick. Put all the rappers in one room. That's how better. There you go. There's a thing you go. There's a thing you go. It needs kick. With security, it ought to be a big bro.

That'd be paper view, wouldn't you think? Let's make it happen. I like that. I like how that's that. So when did you start getting the fights? Because I know you have like kickboxing championships. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about that.

I've been. Because how many kickboxing championships you got? A ton, ton, turn, world time, like, world time champion. World time. You heard that? Yeah. Ten time world champion. Kickboxing.

Yeah, yeah. But I've been in that game since. near enough since like a walk. So training, three years old, like literally just after walking properly and did my family, my mom and my dad was training. So like childcare was you being in the class while they're training. So you kind of pick up things. And then my first competition, I was five.

Yeah, five doing kickboxing. So then it's just been none of stuff. Yeah, because you come from a family of fighters, right? Like the whole, all my siblings, even now, the next generation nephews, like I said, And our mom and dad both did it. It was like there's an era in, I'd say like the 80s, 70s, 80s where they used to do like late night cinema. But after the main like commercial like the obvious films, they did like a late night showing

of Kung Fu films. So you're Bruce Lee's, your Jet Lees, your Jet Lees, Donnie. So I'm saying. Like on Saturday. Like Saturday. So I'm saying. You do for that. Same thing in the U.S.

Yeah. But for some reason, a load of the, in the UK. I can't speak for over here, but in the UK, a load of the Caribbean community, it just inspired them to go and actually do it. So everyone came out like, yo, I'm doing this. But then they actually went to go and find people

to go and do it. So my parents, when they came over, that was a bit of, that was something that they could do socially, they meet people in their community, but then they just, you know, try and love with it. Can you tell me your mom's got a black belt?

Yeah, yeah. When people used to come to them at my house, they see the trophies, I'm like, yeah, that's my mom's not mine. That's not mine. That's my mom's one. People just assumed it was me because they knew I did kickboxing. I was like, no, that's not even me.

That's crazy. I never knew that because I was going to ask you like, yo, why not boxing, Mike? You know, we always say, like, yo, why not boxing? Now, you know, because that's what I would think, because I had to get into the UFC thing. So I would think why not boxing, but it's interest that you grew up from a whole muscle family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even down to films, but I used to watch all of the, all of those Kung Fu films. Like I know all of those, all those stuff. So I just raised on that. So wanting to, obviously, boxing I knew, but I didn't get into it in the same way. But obviously, Muhammad Ali go, those big names you'd go and watch.

Of course. But I spent years of me not just training, but watching Kung Fu guys doing this thing flying around. I wanted to be like that. You know what I mean? So this is why my style is so creative as well, because these guys are doing stuff that's crazy. So what's your top five kung fu movies? What was the movie with Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris? That was one of my favorites.

Yeah, where did you have a jacket? Where the dragon, into the dragon, what I would say. What's the five deadly venom's? So that's where my style came from. The five deadly venom. The one's old. The drunken monk. Yeah.

So five deadly venom was snake, scorpion, toad, centipede. Like it was, I remember watching that. That was that. I've got the masks. You know, all they used to come on the mask. I got all the different masks in my house now. Like I love, that's one of my, that's one of my I saw these clips too, what we're talking about,

because this was classic. Yeah, classic that we're talking about. Saw them clips, man. The Five Deadly Venoms that was crazy is they all, like, hid their identity. Yeah, definitely. You didn't know. Definitely didn't know. That's what they were hanging around each other and nobody knew this was just sitting.

So that's in your top five of movies. Give me four more. So, yeah, five-deley-delems definitely won. I'll say the 26 chambers of Shaolin, which is a crazy one. I got to look at that one. Yeah, that one. That was fired. Classic.

That expired Wu-Tang. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I believe it facts. Yeah, yeah. So I would say, for me, as much as I respect Bruce Lee, that was more my parents, I'd say that kind of was like that day. I grew up on Jackie Chan, Jetli, Donnie, and Samo Hong.

So like, Mills on Wheels for some reason, I just, it's a bit more comedic as well, but I just love Samo Hong, Jackie Chan. Got you, got to, got you. Rumbling the Bronx. And then twin, Twin Warriors was Jetli. or they had two names for it. They had Tai Chi Masters, and I think when it came to the US,

it was Twin Warriors. So that's another one that was just cold. Definitely. All right, so we know. Definitely. Yeah, Chuck Norris. No, no, no, but like, I was raised. I had a little respect for him.

I ain't gonna hate him. You think so? Oh, shit. Damn. You think his shit was fake or all that shit was doing? I think everything he does. Even if it wasn't fake, I didn't like how it portrayed on, on camera.

And I think, I think, A lot of that was, like he never got hit. That's what I mean. He never got a fucking bruise, man. This guy was- Well, his hair's never out of place. Pause. He was like, unhittable, sir.

Like, all of the fires. Yeah, all of the fires have scars. With the Jamaicans wasn't a classic? Nah, they had moments. Like, it's not, I'm not taken away from him. I know he's saying about Stephen Cica. Yeah, about Stephen. And everybody that's with him, like,

I think it was, who was it, DMX was him in a movie? DMX is fucked up and you look like, now it's happened to you. Rest of peace, D.m. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Big rest of piece, man. A couple of people was in movies with them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they all got beat up. But that was really my favorite one. Okay. Now, he got busy with the Jamaica. Screw a fist. Never die. Yeah. I was never, I was never, never been a fan of his stuff.

And I heard some stories even later on with him specifically. He used to beat their, like, obviously, this, they trained to take hits and about, He'd do certain things on purpose to injure people. And there's been enough people, even now, you listen to all the stuff that people were working with him. They said they didn't like him at all. But I just never, that never resonated with me.

Like him specifically, Chuck Norris, 100% beast. But again, I watched him competing as well. Ragnan's a beast. All right. Kitboxer, blood splil. Come on. Definitely, definitely. Come on.

Definitely. Come on. You know, it's crazy. The first film he was in, he didn't do a, you didn't throw a punch or nothing. He was in breakdance. I don't know if you know, beat, Beat Street. Great dance classic. He was in that just as an extra.

He was, there's a scene where these guys are breakdancing by the beach and he just, he's massive. And he's just like, just on the side. Look at that. Look at that. That's crazy. So I got you being a British champion, silver medalist at 2010 World's Martial Art Games. What was that like?

That was interesting because we had to be a lot of, to go to China to do that at the World Games. And that was the first time I kind of went to a place like that. And it was annoying. It's a guy that I beat everywhere else. And then we got to there and he just had my, he just had to be that day. And it's always one of those ones because our sport, you're constantly fighting the same people, but just in different locations.

So I for, I for him, I think in Italy, probably the like three weeks before that for a European championship. Another Europeans, I beat him a few weeks before that. Like we used to fight regular and I got to there. I think I just made the occasion bigger in my head because I've traveling for the first time like that far get to China. I'm just like looking around. I'm just a tourist.

This place is dope. And this is this is, this is my upbringing in terms of visual. I've never, I've never been there but I've seen a lot of these buildings and stuff with all of the stuff that I watched. You know what I'm saying? So I got there, I was hype. It was an amazing experience. But I just feel like that was the first time I was like,

ah, yeah, I took my eye off the prize. I'm here for a reason and I'm so focused on like, oh, what, yo, this is. It really became a tourist. Yeah, yeah, got caught up and died. We went to the Great Wall of China and did all this stuff, which is great, but I was there for a reason. And I feel like I just lost my focus.

Still, I cleaned most people, and I just got to the final, someone that I was familiar with. I'm like, I know he's good as well. I'm like, I'll get him. It's a Hungarian guy. Did you trade this hard? It's like that. I think I just wasn't mentally in my head I had already beating him as well without, I haven't

done it yet. And then as like, as the fights going on, you start panicking because I'm like, shit, it's not, times running low and like, I know he's beating me. So yeah, yeah, like it's, that wasn't my, it was a good learning curve for me that regardless of what's going on around you, regardless of the excitement. that's going around you, your job is still your job. So, yeah, yeah. But I loved it.

So where the flying knee shit comes from? I really want to do this to Uncle Merto or a rap. Boy, I'll tell you, this guy here. I want to fucking, Merle. I really. When me and Mike was back in the back room right here, when he said, listen, Merck, you're looking like you were shake, my brother.

I'm happy. Because, you know, we didn't see my... So he's a listen, brother. Yeah, he's not playing. I'm going to put a hole through this guy, Mike. Can you just show the people just, can you You try to make my guy do all type of flying. He kicks on the...

I'm gonna do you. This our family right here. This is our guy. Get up, brother. Take your chains on. Oh, so yeah, don't mind. I'm gonna sit there. I got you.

Go ahead. My man Mike about to kick. Yeah, yeah. Get in the front so he get kicked you right, correct? A lot of times, people don't expect the flying knee from here. Yeah? normally a bit more square. I like to be from here.

I'm expected. And then it's, you gotta get used to top like a switch. When you get used to that, you can get some height on that. And you can do it from, your legs need to be from here. If you do this, you're telling them what's gonna happen. So it needs to be from here. And then it says, boom. Oh, shit.

You should have hit me. You should have hit me. You should have hit the end. Damn, you would have hit me with that shit. You didn't have been viral. You didn't have been viral. No edit. No edit.

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You know, 50 have business with them. And that's when I started to really know you, you know, like, oh, shit. Bellator is, you know. I'm not going to lie. He definitely was talking about you, like, for a long time. I'm not going to hold you, like, letting us know, like, you know, now you got to see this nigga. He can be busy.

Because you got to understand. He put us on, Conn, I ain't going to hold you. Because for me, it's like, yo, you could be a good fighter and be a boring fighter. And to people, you're not a good fighter. So when you see him, he's in a class of McGregor, John Bones Jones, and the list goes on of flashy fighters. You know, he's coming in, he's popping his shit. He's doing just all kinds of shit.

You never know what he's going to do. You know, so it's entertaining like a motherfucker. It's entertaining. It's a silver. Like, he's one of them guys. Those guys are like entertaining fighters. So for me, even if these guys lose, I'm gonna watch their fighting again and again and again and again.

But talk about the transition from Bellator to UFC. They're both big, you know, big platforms, but the UFC is like, you know. Yeah. I'd say that there's a lot of people that struggle to go from other shows to the UFC just because of the magnitude of the UFC. It's crazy down to the fans. The fans are this different level. They're way more intense from a Bellator show to a U.S.

UFC show is just different. And but for me, I was like, like I said, 10 times world champion. I fought all around the world before I even got to Bellator. So even when I got to Bellator, everyone was already making a big, big deal out of it. And I'm just like, yeah, I just gonna keep being me. That's what got me here. I'm gonna keep being me. Same thing.

I was delivering, delivering, delivering. Then when I got to UFC, I'm like, yeah, same thing. Just keep being myself, like, just don't worry about anything else. Don't worry about the pressures. Until I got to the UFC and I'm not. I was like, I understand why people don't perform because it just feels like a weight. It feels like it feels like an audition. No matter what you've done and what you've proved, that you obviously prove something

to be there, you get there and you feel like everyone's now watching you like, well. You start all over. Yeah, starting all over again. All over. And you get there and it's just like, I remember one of the press conferences I got in, I have, in terms of nerves, I've never really gotten nervous. I always have like an anxious feeling of like. like excitement.

Right. And I was at a press conference and I was just like nervous. I'm like my heart was just do-d-d-d-d-l. I've never felt like this before. So you're kind of mad at yourself. Ever. Yeah, but I was just like, well, I was that chit. Like I'm trying to calm myself down. But now I'm, now I'm worried that people can see that I'm nervous.

I'm doing stuff that's not even me. Right, right, right. So then again, even when I perform, like I still perform well, but I still don't feel that I've performed the way I know I can. And that's even until now. And I've had some great fights on the UFC. And I still don't feel like I've done what I would normally do had I been anywhere else. Or had I fought this guy just in the gym, people would just be like,

you'd see, you'd see someone get demolished in a very flashy way. But then I get to the UFC and I'm beating people, but just beating people. What do you think it's too much light camera action over there? Oh, what do you mean? That is light camera action. But you think it's too much of that shit for you? Like it's like it's so much of that shit for you? Yeah, it's difficult to kind of pin it.

All I was trying to do when I realized there, there's probably about two, three fights in and I'll realize what's happening. And then I'm just, all I'm trying to do is say, look, you just need to go back to just being you. Forget everything else, just enjoy it. But it's always difficult. The whole buildup is designed to make every fight anxious.

It's like the whole buildup. Like, no matter what stage you are in your career, or if you're new to UFC and you're young buck or you've been there a little while, it always feels like there's pressure, always. Like I said, I thought, I already knew I'd be able to beat these guys in the UFC because like I say, we cross-trained. I've from before I even got to Bellator, I was sparring guys in the UFC. And I tell you now, there's nobody can come back and say they had a good time sparring me outside.

So I already knew, like, I was already comfortable. I'm confident in myself that, oh no, but I thought it's level. Yeah, got you. But it's very different fighting couple coaches, teammates, and to a crowd of people, the pressure of the money, because the way they do the pay structure, I don't do it now, but the way they do the pay structure for a lot of the fighters is certain amount half to show up. So second you step in the cage, that's your half. And then if you win, you get the other half.

What? Exactly. It's like being a rapper. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm about I said, that's crazy. So you're trying to say, basically you're getting half when you step in the ring. And if you lose the fight, you don't get your money. You don't get a rest.

No back in. No back in. But, and this is where there's always been a lot of talk about pay. And for me, even if the pay is low, it should be give me what you think I'm worth. The second I get, this is just done. Don't give me the added stress that during the fight. Because humans are humans, man. They get the total amount and they're already spending it in their head.

Better believe it. And then someone hits you. So you're wobbling the kid, you're like, shit. Now you think about that money. Shit. That's too much stress. Why, bro, we already kill ourselves to get there. And now you want to add extra pressure and extra stress.

You're still wife, I'm gonna get her that shit. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's that bad thing, I got it. I got to get that funny, digger. That shit crazy. We never even looked at it.

Yeah, yeah. So I believe you got that shit took it out of your contract. Yeah, you know, from, I've had it out from Bellator days. Okay, copy. But you have to get to a certain level of popularity, fame or success, which is that is hard. That's difficult enough. So imagine these guys, there's guys that are, I'm going to use like, there's a guy called Paddy Pimler. He's big.

Like, he's doing really, really well. He's got a great brand. Yeah. You're right, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. My brother, I got you. Not, to be fair, I'm usually on it. I'm usually on it. I got you.

I got you. Well, yeah, he's big. And I remember some of his earlier fights where he, he's, he's big. selling our stadiums he he was half and half and the half that the total amount was crap total amount was terrible and you're like this guy's selling our stadiums there's a lot of pressure and on top of that he's in the UK so we get paid in dollars you got a chance you got to change the currency on that back down to from dollars to about yeah you're already it's already losing what's the dollar difference eddy what's the dollar difference right now it's I think it's not

not too bad now. But before, you used to be crazy. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So imagine, especially from the UK, and I'm sure everyone's going to have their struggles, but I've seen it where a guy, I know one of my teammates, he's studying to be a lawyer. So he comes to the gym to train because he wants to be a fire out. But he's also studying to be a lawyer just in case.

Right. So he's fighting, training. I'm mash up after that first session. Then he goes, picks up a book and he's studying, studying, studying, studying, studying, studying. And he goes back and we have our second session. concession. He's training, training, training, training, and then he goes, goes home, wash quick powering up. Then he goes out to the, to the clubs to do work security because he needs to make money. This guy was in Bellator. This guy was, this other guy was in UFC.

And they're still having to do extra work. That's a lot of stress, man. If you get to what you class as the pinnacle of your career, which is the UFC, this is so big. You should just be able to focus on the UFC. Now, these guys are coming back home having to. second jobs and this and not and still perform, but nobody, no one's gonna get them the grace, no one's gonna talk about that. Can, nobody even knows. No one knows.

Yeah, because you know, when you hit the UFC, that's the pinnacle of, you know, fighting. You sell out the barn and that's a balance, balance, yeah, exactly, man. And it's entertaining, no, what I'm saying, it's bad, it's entertaining, right? Very dangerous, so they should definitely be paying these guys and they're making the money off this shit,

correct? The money is more than making the money. Because I know this shit damn there took over boxing Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly. Damn, yeah. I mean, you know, boxing is entertaining, but when somebody could use their feet, you do do jit-soo, do striking, that's way more entertaining than just two boxes.

And I love boxing. I love the sport too. I love boxing. So for me, and it's way more dangerous to me a little bit because of the kicks. The kicks be rude. So how they fix that? Is they working on fixing that shit? Well, things have slowly progressed, but like, even coming up.

Like it even come out the other days, the UFC, as they say, like, and the NFL will pay like 52% or something of the revenues go back to the players. I think soccer is like 307%. But for the UFC specifically, it's like 16%. But then the majority of that goes to the top 5% of the fights. So that's the more popular ones. So they got like 600 fighters on their books. And if most of that is going to...

Top five. Just like, let's say the top 15, 20, 30. Then it's only 16% on that. Exactly. So it's like, it's difficult. It's difficult. And I always say like try not to give some of these guys a hard time because they are putting it. They are putting it.

So like the guy, I don't know if you've seen recently, he was, he just fought my boy, Izzy, Adisani, bad boy, style Bender, beast. Yeah, Adisani, love him. He unfortunately he lost, but then the guy had a, you know, you can see he was like very emotional and he had a speech afterwards. And he's like two weeks ago, I was ready to kill myself. He was just, life was just the guy who won. The guy who won. He said two weeks ago, I was, I was about to commit.

Two weeks later, he's fighting, Adisani. He wins and he's now cataport with him to like the top five or something. Wow. And he was like ranked 17 or whatever. It wasn't before that. But this is the stuff that people are just not seeing. You know what I mean? I'm not getting around short, everyone's going to have their struggles, but I'm just saying

it feels like there's a lot, the UFC can help alleviate some of those struggles. You got to do better, man. We need to talk to, we got to do better, we got to do better, we got to be better, man. Now let me ask you a serious question, a family full of fighters. Yeah, mom's a black belt, we can with your ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You probably got, who's that black belt? You probably got, who's that black guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, from you learning martial arts as a child, when did you do you? Now, when did you know it was going to be a career for you? Like, you know, not just a family thing, a career. When did you know? I'd say it was late. Late late, as in it probably, probably, I was 24 when I actually got into MMA. Before that, although I've been winning these world titles, if I looked around me, the people

that were successful fighters still didn't really have anything. They, it was because it wasn't popular. wasn't popular enough. So they would open up schools and from their popularity, they'd open up schools, get students and that's how they kind of became successful in their own right. I love teaching, I actually enjoy coaching, but in my head I was like, now that's not what I want to do for myself though. So then I was like, I need to take a risk somewhere. I need to go to boxing or MMA or something different where I can perform and make a living. I chose to try out MMA, got there and just fell in love with the whole idea of it.

I was able, I was coaching at the time, because it's my dad's school, he was that, look, put a little bit aside. It was not much, it was like 200 pound a month or something, just to allow me to just focus on that and see where you get to. So, did that. After the first fire, I was out, that was good, I got, I went crazy viral, but my first fight, I, legit got 80 pounds to fight. That was it. And then second fire is like a hundred pound. So again, it's not something that I feel like I'm gonna make a living from just yet.

Right. But at least I know I'm good at this. I'm like, okay, like I'm making my names out there. It ain't what I want, but I'm good at this shit and I'm making some money off of it. But I think is when I got signed to Bellator when I was like, okay, there's definitely a way for me to make a career. But like I said, the sport that I chose is still, it's still, still a long grind to get to where you need to get to.

Right. And even when, like I say, my most viral fight is that knee, my pay was not good. But I went, I'm all over the world now. But you're viral, yeah. I'm viral, but I'm like, I can use that. Definitely. So I think it's at that point where I'm like, no, I know I'm heading in the right direction. That kind of like, said to me, like, yeah, okay, I can figure it out.

Right. So how do you keep the discipline? Because, you know, we're on the road, you know, we, late. blaming y'all, being crimed-lade cabri d'all. You know, we eat on this guy with exotic food menu. You hear on my man here with the exotic food. We used to smoke, dunk him around.

Talk to him, yeah. Talk to him, yeah. How do you keep the discipline? Because for me, the food is like, you know, I love food. I know murder. Murder loves bread. He's in shape now. He feels like. He just had a gut a couple of months ago.

So I got the gut now. How the fuck do you keep the discipline, bro? To be fair, it's difficult. I think everybody everybody's different. You just need to know yourself, how you motivate yourself. For me, I need a goal.

I need a target. I need to be, I need to do something a bit more extreme. Right. So same for me. When I was on a film ended last year,

like Jake General's Roadhouse, Roadhouse 2. Yeah, yeah. It's not, okay. It's not, it's gonna be out next year, I believe. Roadhouse 2, we're gonna make sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I watched it. I watched it. Yeah, the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's dope. was though. This one's, this one's going to level up again. So I got to be on that, but as you say, you're kind of sat there just hours and it's just, people would just feed like, you want food? I'm like, I'm not doing nothing. So might as well. Might as well. So I understand how easy it is to, but then I know, I knew tomorrow. I think sometimes you can give yourself the grace period because

I enjoy food as well, but give yourself to grace period. I say, okay, cool. I'm going to enjoy myself here. And then as soon as I get to this point here, to this point here, I need to go. crazy, but that's just me. I know some of my teammates like to be disciplined all year around. But, nah, food is a big part of my culture. Yeah, you're Jamaican, right? Yeah, yeah, it's a big part of the culture. Chicken in London. That's what I'm saying. We went to the hood, we went to Central C block, Central C neighborhood. Central, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in a, you know, fancy, spanchy hotel. Yeah. They ain't had no Jamaican food right there, you know what I mean?

You gotta go to the hood sometimes. But the food there is probably, and the thing is I got a mixture My dad's side is Trinidadian and my mom's just, my mom's side of Jamaican. Both sides of food is amazing. Right. And again, culture is, so we're sitting down, big family food, eating, da, da, da, so it's difficult. But I say to myself, enjoy that. Enjoy that side of it. But then you need to make sure you lock in, but you just need to know yourself.

How, what motivates you? You know what I mean? But you know we are all the boys in big parts. Yeah, that's it. You know what I mean? Leftovers, boy, you're taking, yeah. I feel like if I eat something now after a certain time and I just make sure I go, you definitely got to wake up early in workout.

Exactly. I've done that as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to do that. So if you know you ate too much night before, you got to put that working in the morning. 100%. But diet is key. Like, regardless of any of the training, diet is key.

That's what's going to keep you alive as long as possible, but keep you in shape. Don't know you when somebody just start working out and talk about it all the time. I know you want to talk about it all the time. I love to ask the people. I love you. Like, that's all this big I love. Mike, Mike. Mike.

You know I love you. Mike. You know, like, you know, like, you have to talk about protein shakes all day, you know. You know what I'm gonna get in shape. But come on. People start working out in here. You know, right? You, Mike, I'm going to get the best, tell me my best diet for me.

Because I'm tired of this guy with him. With a six-pack he bought. Six-pack he bought up the room. My God. Nah, you know what? I'd say the key things is what tends to happen for most people is eating late and then obviously a lot of carbly foods. That rice and their bread.

That's right. When you cut that out, I'm not saying don't have it, but even down to the portions, one thing I had to do to say, trick myself because when you're trying to eat healthy or portion control, if you put it on a normal plate, it doesn't feel like you've got a meal. So I decided using smaller plates. Because then at least I feel like it's full. Visually, I'm looking at like, okay, cool. I got a full plate.

And then I eat it and I'll actually, I don't feel, I don't even feel like eating anymore, because I feel like I've mentally tricked myself. But if I put it on a normal size plate and I just see a little bit of rest here, a little bit of this, a little bit, I'm like, I'm going to go for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But sometimes, again, you've got to know yourself what motivates you. But late night eating is always worth snacking. Snacking is our... Give me an example. Well, snacking. What? Chips?

Everything you're talking. Everything you thought about just now. Everything you think you'll give you an example. Every. I mean, what's going to say? Beat somebody's ass. Everything. Now about snacking in general, again, even if you're going to snack, try to do it with, like, fruits and, like,

stuff that's not this bullshit. Instead of chips, get the fruit. Yeah, yeah. And the thing is that I know for the most. He got the chips, the sour patches. Everything. All the type of stuff. All the type of shit.

I don't eat it. The kids eat it. You see me, I'll be on the cashews, shit like that, almonds. That's my little snacks. You definitely. You definitely do it. He eat a lot of fish too. Yeah, so that's good.

So light, like, yeah, like, like, lot of things that you want definitely always hit. Steaks is good, but again, it's just portion control. I'm not saying don't eat anything. I'm saying enjoy, enjoy eating food, but just, just be disciplined of time that you eat, because a lot of people eat late, especially if you just come off a show,

you're getting back home to the hotel late, and it's like, I'm hungry. But you have to be listening to say, like, bro, it's not a good time to eat. Let me just drink a load of water, because that's usually you fills you up. We just drink loads and loads of water now, and then, boom, wake up, eat your breakfast

and whatever, whatever, whatever. But yeah, the normal is get home, and there's nothing, nothing's open, pizza. So no room service off in the black car. Just got here. If you did, if you did, send in to murder's room. Temptation.

Don't tip me. Don't tip me. Mike, I'm trusting. I do. He's doing a while too. Yeah, I do. He had a belly a minute ago. He's good.

Nah, that's the first thing I said, though. You said, yeah, right, yeah. Mike said, you focus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, it's funny. You see it in so many different things like, I come and I'm like, your skin. Like, like, your skin's glowing.

and smooth, all you, everything, muscles are like, tighter, like, just little things, I'm like, I'll notice. You're gonna input, Mike. You're gonna hear about it is. I'm gonna hear about it. He's what it is. He got the battery from life.

Not gonna try to do a flying, he's gonna miss. Mike don't do it. You ain't gonna do it. You ain't gonna do it. You're crazy. He's gonna try to kick a rapper, Jaru. He's gonna miss.

He said Jaru. Oh, on the plane. On a plane, right. On a plane. So what's the workout like to kick somebody's ass? Because you're like a walking machine. Like, we was going to call security.

I'm like, what we need to kick a gun on? Mike can't get me. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. Give me a workout because now you got sheltered diamond gym. You got popularity on Instagram, like the diamond gym guys. You got the workout guys just doing all the muscle ups.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pull-ups is, like, it's popular to be healthy, which is a good thing. Yeah, 100%. Especially we getting older and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my whole thing is, what would you tell me, like, to work out? Would you say, do check out? one day, do back one day, like,

or would you say calisthenics, pull-ups? What's your workout? It depends on what you're doing. Obviously, I have to work out a specific way because there's a job at the end of it, you know what I'm saying? So maybe for yourself being on stage for hours and running about, you might want to work out the legs, your knees, make sure you're there good because you're jumping up and down, you're doing all this kind of performative thing.

You want to be in shape, look good, back the top off and to show everybody. Yeah, I'm on here, still young. It just depends on what you want to work on. on. Canisthenics always makes you look good because it's body weight. But what I like about it is people feel like you have to do weights and you don't have to do weights at all. Like, Kandestanics is just body weight and sometimes we end up getting injured because when we're doing waist is all like one dimensional, it's all in one direction. The kind of thing is because you're having to stabilize yourself the whole time. You work with smaller muscles and the bigger

muscles. And you see some of these guys like big heavy weights. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it, I'm not against it. But these guys will be trying to lift something and they're struggling and you get someone that doesn't look like much and they're just like, just because they've, their body is in sync with themselves, you know what I mean? So, Kandestanics definitely, if you're just talking about getting in shape, healthy in shape, and there's nothing at the end of it. Boxing's always good because I think it's just a stress reliever or kickboxing because you're staying in shape by also, life can be stressful. So, bam, pop, pop, hitting pads. Definitely.

It's good. For me, again, like I said, I have to be intentional. So we do wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu, we do ground and power, we do weights, we do fitness, like endurance, short bursts, long road running as well. Like, there's a lot that has to go into the end result. So for me, there's a multitude of things that I have to do, but if you're just staying in shape, just pick something and just stick with it. That's what I'm saying, Muriel.

Like being a UFC fighter is like the hard. his job because you don't know what's coming out. Jiu-Jitsu, he knows how to fight on the floor, which I want you to put murder in the arm-ball for the people. It is got, yeah. I want to learn the arm-ball, do you put murder off, murder laid out, the arm-ball. I want to see if he can't get out, man. So look, the arm ball, I can't get out, but I want to put you on the floor.

You need to get it. Like, Jujitsu, the arm balls, flying kicks, um, fucking boxing. It's so much kickboxing. It's like, it's like three, four, fucking elements of fighting. Then you got the pressure of the crowd. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? UFC, the biggest stage for martial arts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's so crazy. It's like so much pressure. Then you gotta be in shape. You gotta keep weight. You gotta diet. The weight is the hardest thing, like the weight cup, should I say.

Not the weight, the weight, the weight cut. Like my last fight, like I said, because of the roadhousing, I went out to, and the UK is more KG. So I went up to 100, six KGs and I had to get to 77 KGs in two months, eight weeks to just cut everything out. And that's a lot of weight to drop. So yeah. That's like 70 pounds you got to lose.

Yeah. Damn, you had to lose that much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many weeks? Eight weeks. So why do they say when some fighters do that, it fucks them up? It does. It just depends on how you do it.

I'm, I've been blessed to kind of understand my body. This one was definitely more difficult because I don't usually, I'd never get to that level. I think the highest that I'd been before that was about like 94, 95. So there's a lot extra, like 10 KGs extra. So it was different, it's a bit more difficult, but I kind of understand my body well enough to know this is what it needs, this is what it doesn't need. I had nutrition, nutritionist as well. So I contact him and like, yo, my, my weight's not dropping. And what could I do?

Oh, yeah, have this, do that, take this, da-da-da. But yeah, it's difficult. I mean, when you look at, you know, guys like LeBron, you know what I'm saying? 41 still fucking dunking. Yeah, yeah. It's 21. So you feel like the nutritionist, the food, the diet and the workouts, all is one, you say. Key, key, key, key.

Like the, as youngsters, so when I, when I first stepped in the game, you have the hardest session in the world. The next day, I'm good to go again. Like, I'm sure nothing. But as you get older, I can have the easiest session in the world. And next day, I'm like, I don't want to go nowhere. You know what I mean? But that's, but I'm still trained, no, I, there was a point where I was still training like a youngster thinking my body just going to bounce back.

But if you get as a young, so you get into the habit of the recovery side, it's yin and yang. The recovery side is the aggressive side, but then also the relaxed side. Like my, my wife, she does, she's got her own app. She's a Pilates instructor. I was in Pilates, I'm, I was shaking. And it was like, yo, your big, big, MMA Fire Strong, bro, I was shaking.

She's just, they're just doing a stretch and doing it. I'm just looking at me like, bro, you need to do this side as well. And it's going to help, like your core stability and all that kind of stuff. Ice baths, soreners, all these different things that before, I'm like, bro, I'll just wake up and I'm fine and go back to training. But now, where do you get to a certain day? necessarily right but even when you're younger you should make it as part it should be a habit just to get into so when you get older it's just not it's just normal to you but yeah when we're young we just feel like we're just we're gonna be that way forever it's crazy yeah but i said to you you it's it's almost like a high feeling bro you do a sauna you jump in ice buffy it's a shock and you know you relax you control your breathing you stay in there for like a minute a minute and a half two minutes get out bro just it's like you sit down most relax you're It's amazing.

Just getting over that first initial shock of bah, that cold. That ice spilling that cold shit. Once you get past that, control, and then you get out, seriously, it's something else. I don't know. I can try that, man. Ice bath is crazy, bro. I'm gonna try that, man. I might have to try that.

So we do something on the real report. We ask every legend who is their top five fighters, man. Who's your top five fighters? Oh, shit, I like that one, yeah. A long time. A long time. It could be any era. Okay, okay, okay, okay. It don't have to be now, it could be forced.

In, just in combat or boxing or just MMA? Any which way you want to do? Okay, okay, okay. So obviously the goal has to be up there, Muhammad Ali. Of course, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. He has to be there.

I think he just changed a game for everybody, not just boxing. It was for absolutely everybody. His character, personality, charisma, and obviously the fighting style. style. John Jones, I'm going to give it to him for MMA because I feel like, as you mentioned, MMA is such a difficult sport to be great at because there's so many different ways for you to lose. The fact that he's done it in the, he hasn't lost, as much as they say he's got a loss on his record, that was a disqualification. I still thought to this day they need

to take that off of you because that was some bullshit. So you'd have to give it to him. The fact that even now he could still be going, similar to like the LeBron James is what you're saying. Like he's getting older and still just whooping people. Like it's nothing. So you go give him his respect. Penel Whitaker for me was just somebody that I just, and rest in peace again because that was a crazy life.

That was somebody that again, I enjoy similar styles to myself that love to express themselves in unique ways. I feel like I'm the kind of person. If everybody's going in that direction, I just kind of want to see what's happening over here just to just explore. And he seemed like that guy. You can watch him. I can watch it for hours. Yeah, yeah. Weird enough, I'm going to stay with boxing again and say Emmanuel Augustus. Because again, I was the drunken master, drunken boxing. Just something unique. And it's not like, okay, he has the best record. It has nothing to be. But it's his style, what he did.

Even, I think to this day, Mayweather says that's his hardest fight, which says something about what he brought to his game. Demetius Johnson, for me, again, if I go back to M.M.A. So people underestimate, not underestimate, it kind of overlooked the smaller guys, but he is the most well-rounded athlete in MMA. He could do everything.

And I had a privilege of kind of training with him. And I was like, I understand how you, why you're so dangerous. There's little things that he did that I'm like, I don't even think the way he thinks to how he capitalizes on every single thing to hit you again, hit you again, hit you again. There's normally kind of pockets

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in terms of boxing, you have to give it to Mayweather, in terms of defensively and offensively, you know, when he was coming up the ranks and he's a light of weight, fighting people more naturally his weight. He's knocking everybody out. And then he gets on, he goes up in weight categories. It's obviously harder to knock people out. That's heavily, that's naturally heavier than you.

But then also defensively, you got to be careful because these guys hit harder than you. But then turned, adjusted it with his team, his dad, his uncle. And he became the most defensive genius in the game. So yeah, you have to give it to him in terms of if you had to write a list on offensive boxing on defensive boxing, you can probably just use him and you'd be good. Let me ask you a question. Would you fight like a Mayweather, like a McGregor fight? Oh yeah.

I mean like you love boxing too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a combat fan. Yeah. If it's combat, remember, I did bare knuckle as well. I did bare knuckle. I went over to, yeah, I did jujitsu, I did a jujitsu competition. I did like kickboxing competition, boxing, I boxed two and old boxing.

We'll box one of these guys out here for some of that money. 100%. I did. You did that in smoke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like combat. If you're telling me you're gonna be fighting someone, then we, I'm good to go. Just tell me what the rules are.

I'm there. Yeah, I'm there. So yeah, yeah, yeah, like, anything combat-wise. You knock out Jake Paul too? Oh, for fun. Yeah, for fun. For fun, for fun. Yeah, for entertainment.

Yeah, for entertainment. Yeah, yeah, see that one. No kicking this time. You're saying, kicking it's over for you too. Yeah. I respect what he's doing. Not even just on the fact that he's from being a YouTuber to kind of just competing and having all these eyes,

but also what he's doing for other. for other fighters. The same thing I'm saying about people not gifting the fighters, the respect and the money that they deserve. He's out there like, I'll do it myself. He's doing an already MVP show, paying people right, the women shows that he's got going. Like, he's doing, he's pushing it the way it should have been pushed for a long time. No, I agree. I love what he's doing. Yeah. I feel like, um, you know, coming up watching, you know, Mike Tyson and Holy Phil and we just never looked at him as like, he's a, you know, two fighter.

Yeah, yeah, of course. So now it's like what he's doing is brilliant. It's like it's more, is more entertainment. Yeah, it's more entertainment. But do you feel like marketing is taking over the sport motor? Like, Market is taking over every industry. Yeah. That's what he might.

If he decided to go and say, I'm going to do a golf competition, everyone's watching, same way they're watching them boxing. He just, he just was, he figured out a way to get eyes on him. And he's like, okay, if I jump into over here, those same eyes are going to watch me. And it's a younger generation. guys are avid fans from young. So like these guys are YouTube, like just stuck on YouTube watching everything this man does. So no matter where he goes. Oh yeah, I watch all those fights. I'm not going to say I don't want. Yeah, yeah. Like Mayweather and Tyson's supposed to be

fighting. I'm watching that. What do you think about that? Oh, sorry, I didn't add Tyson and that's my bad. I feel. I disrespected the man. Brooklyn. Come on. My, I disrespect to the man. I apologize. Tyson is 100% up there. Yeah, Tyson's on the list. Yeah. Is that supposed to fight Mayweather. Is that part? I don't think that price really happened. I was not happening. Yeah, I think they changed it. And that was Paco.

Yeah, right. Oh, that's great. That one's more relevant. So when it's things like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, after Tyson with Jake Paul, we, you know. Yeah, we, I just, I don't like seeing that, I didn't really want to watch that fight. Only because I don't want a picture of Jake Paul standing over Mike Tyson. I just don't want to see it.

Yeah. And just in case, regardless of here, he's Mike Tyson, he's just older now. just older now. It's not, I'm not saying it's, if the, if prime Mike Tyson could just look at Jake Paul and Jake Paul would fall over. Right. But right now it's not the same. So we're people, we kind of lose ourselves in the pick, in the, we're kind of stuck in time. We see the knockouts that we used to see of Mike Tyson and the name stay is there. So we're like, that's the same guy. It's not. It's not the same guy. I'm talking to you. Listen, I was smoking with him in Vegas and he took my joint and didn't pass it back and I didn't even want to

ask him for it. I'm like, this is Spike Tyson, man. So every time I'm in a room, I've been around him a couple of times and been a little intimidated. Yeah, yeah, he's got a certain presence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're, like you say, you're stuck with what you know of, of this guy. But yeah, like, stuff like that, I just want to see. You know, I don't even want to ask him back with that shit, you know. Oh, man.

Right now. Keep it. We talk about all this fighting. Yeah. We talk about the fight you have outside the gym with your foundations that you're going. and the stuff you're doing for kids and the basic things you're doing for the community. Yeah, so like the family business is,

we got S-E-N schools called Renaissance. And we, kids that have eating disorders, kids that are autism or like just difficulty learning. We build and design schools that cater for exactly that. But it's so crazy. I went to one of the schools that we have in, in Birmingham, see how they go there, see how they're getting along, speak to the kids. I did a little martial art session for them as well.

But I'm going through the school and I'm like, yo, I, I would, this school would have helped me because of the way they construct the room and how they construct the school, it allows for no matter what level of learning that you are at to just to cope. So for example, if you're in a science lab, you know, have a window with the kids doing the actual science. except like whatever it is they're doing experiments on. At the window, there's a, there's a table there for people to watch. So the other kids can watch what's going on and observe, take notes. If you don't want, if that's, because again, people forget, like,

we don't teach kids emotional control and us. When you're overwhelmed, whatever it is that kind of overwhelms kids, we don't give them a way out. Everything is in the same way, like lines of. of classes looking at the front. And we, everyone, I've got ADHD myself. Trying to stay focused is difficult. So if that's not keeping your attention, you can go to a,

it's a circular table in the middle of the room, you can go to the circular table and converse. And now I don't want to sit there and watch because I'm not doing. But me and you can talk about, oh yeah, that's crazy. Oh, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, like, okay, yeah. And then if this is too overstimulating, there's a bench facing the wind outside, you can go there. So at any stage, wherever you are at,

there's a place for you to go in one classroom. And then you get to that, like the window, at the bench of the back, you're like, I just want to be by myself, just doing work by yourself. If that is still overstimulating, there's, we have dark rooms. So the kids can just go, and it's sensory rooms.

So you go in there, it's dark, and there's like, this will be like light lit up and there's stuff that they can play with and just to calm yourself. just to calm yourself down. You know what I mean? And then, and the thing is, no teacher will ever tell you you can't leave.

You can leave it anytime you want. So you don't feel restricted. Yeah, it doesn't feel like a jail set. It doesn't feel like, exactly. And what's the ages with this? So it goes right, it's from primary school. So I got the different schools system that you have right the way up to the end of high school

going into college. All right. Yeah, yeah. So, and then we're just building and just opening up more schools. I think we just got permission. for three more schools and then we got looking at another one as well. So that'll make it about 10 schools.

We're just building. We're just building. It's building. No, that's crazy that you said that because like us putting our kids in school, you know, spells. It's time schedule. You're overwhelmed. You're going to class. You got to go to this class.

And a lot of people, you know, teach their kids in school. They just keep teaching them at home. Yeah. Because, you know, they're teaching them what they want to learn as far as business or anything creative. Or art, like, what I like what you just said is you can go anywhere you want. There's no pressure.

There's no pressure. As long as we know where you're going, so it's like overstimulated like this, I want to leave. Yeah, no problem. Here you go. We're going to go to the dark room here? Do your thing.

There's a, there's a farm, like a mini farm as well. One thing that, especially kids from where we would come from, like, certain black parents ain't having pets in their house. Like, so you don't ever get, like, it's something, something so, yeah, bro, or something. I hate you, you a gift. That's why you had to watch that.

Made some money, got me doing. Love your mom. Love my mom, Snitwood. That's why I got dogs. It's true though. You're true. You don't realize how much, how relaxing having a pet is, or how much you learn about taking care of something else other than yourself.

So what you learn from that thing. So having a farm and a space for them to go and see ducks, fish, goats, chickens, these kind of things interact with animals. that they would never have the opportunity at the house, that's where they're getting there. So we're just trying to build that because I feel like you have to, it has to start from there

because it feels like the world's going crazy right now, but we need to try and educate these guys properly. For me, based on a school system that I had, and I spoke about my wife, I want to homeschool the kids, but now that I'm working in the schools, I'm not, I would send my kids to the school. Got you, okay. Like you don't have to have anything.

I would send my kids to a school that caters for all of these things. You know what I mean? But yeah, like that's what we're doing on that side. It's important. Will, we ready for his homeball? You ready? He got to do it on me. Huh?

You want to see him move on time. What? Take your change. No, I almost got knocked out by a fucking... Take his in Rio. You took all this muscles. I want to see him doing on you, but we got to get you in shape. So this will.

Put you in arm, You did say we're gonna do some training at some point. You're gonna get you in shape. You scared. You scared to get, look, he's scared to get bit by a dog. He's scared to get put in the arm bar. He took all his Brooklyn tough shit.

You got bit by dog, man. I had a suit on. Oh, yeah. Was it your dog? You're training your dog? No. It was just a dog, I wanted to buy. As soon as the dog jumped on this,

he told the Duke to get it all. You know, listen, I'm not so. I'm queens. Michael Page, Benham is going to. put me in a light on board. Oh, shit. Let's go. Let's see you get me.

I'll do something. Yeah. All right, just take these. Go-old. This really choke. You choke that nigga, Mike. Look at this nigga. That shit, just calm down.

Adam's apple. Ah, shit. Yeah, because he talked too much shit. Yeah, yeah. Go up that nigga. Get up. Get up. Tell them.

No, Merck, that she was on an Adam. It wasn't no regular choke. It wasn't. Feelful. All right. No, no. Back up. Come on, man.

You're taking it easy. You're talking about it yet? That's what you're talking about? That's what you're talking about? This punk-ass dude, cut. Look, take that shit, man. You just whispered in his ear. Take it easy.

Take it easy on me. That's what that trade to do. This punk-ass-lick, everybody's doing. Yo, listen, man, I'm not taking no two more of the parts. I'm a fly knee, kick them glasses off your face, and them change, boy. I ain't with no. None of that shit. He's talking to take it easy.

Be you know, whispering in his head. That shit was on, that shit still hurt. A man could kill with his hands, brother. What are you talking about here? That's good for it. Your Mike, line from London, man. Anything you want to tell us that you, you know, what you got going on?

What's not what's coming next, man? What's coming up next, man? What's you're going to? I'm waiting for opponents to actually say yes to me. Stop being scared, y'all. Stop being scared. Stop. Stop.

That's scared. You guys, when you get back to the UK, my restaurant, Ikshell, it's a Mexican restaurant. Oh, Xcel, definitely. Yeah, you guys got to come through to that. We're doing so much things. I got the film company in which this is why I was out in L.A. the other day. I remember I said to you, you might have been out there at the same time.

I was out in L.A. because the first film that we produced called Weight just got nominated for a Beverly Hills Award. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're doing work on that side. We might be doing the film in Costa Rica, our first feature film in Costa Rica soon as well. So the film, my production company is called ITM in the moment productions. We're trying to bring you in the moment.

So you're just knocking motherfuckers up. Ah, everything. Everything, everything. Everything, everything. Like I tried to get my hands in different, different pies. Like you have to, like I said, this doesn't last forever. It doesn't necessarily pay well, but it doesn't last forever as well. Right, right, right.

But also again, for me, it's like, you give me the spotlight and then I'll go get a work. Yeah, yeah, I'll go get a work done myself. I don't need, I don't need anybody. We just, we just put the work in. Definitely. How was that experience on set with Roadside too? I've seen the first one.

Oh, listen, the first, it was, it was difficult, like, in a different way, it was draining because I'm not doing it. I'm so used to being active. I'm on set for hours and this is what I'm doing. Like, it was a weird, there's like weird, there's like weird, in drawings. but in a very different way, like just being on set. Because remember, we spoke with Scott Badnik. Yeah, right.

And he said, we've got to get you in the next film as well. Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah, yeah. He's not ready, Mike. He's not ready, Mike. He's not ready, Mike. He can knock me out. Fuck that.

50th Street Fighter. I'm ready, man. Yeah, for real. For real, for real. That was big up that one. Big up. Big up. Yeah, I haven't seen it.

You see Washington. Yeah. Come out. I believe in a couple of months or maybe October. the months or maybe October. I think October. Oh, okay. Oh, it's full.

Okay, I just saw it with a promotion for it. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, yeah. I got a beef jerky company. Oh, shit. Pause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't pause everything.

You got to pause. It's called Snapdown Snipes. Blame Kame and Mitch. Beef jerky is good though. Pause. Yeah, yeah. You got to say. Beef jerky is good, pause.

I bought beef jerky from the store. Pause. Yeah, that's what else. He got a be jerky. Oh, poor. Yeah, Snapdown Snacks. All right. That's fine.

So you can get at snapdownsnacks.com. Okay. So we're doing stuff with that. I'm involved in football. There's a lot going on. Staying busy. Staying busy. But the main things is the schools.

Like I said, you go help the kids first. Definitely. And then give them opportunities like the football, like film, acting, all that kind of stuff. So, but it starts with getting them right at school, getting their mental right at school, at SCN schools. You can teach them about dying that school too.

No, exactly that. No, but that's the same because we got, uh, yeah. You see what? I didn't think about that, I'm throwing. I ain't even, fuck about this. Fucking broke.

Yeah, that's funny. Good one, bite. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it, man. We're working. We're working. That's dope. Well, they're in the restaurant again?

Because I got a food show. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. I'm gonna come out there and I got a food show coming. And, um, what's the name of the rest of my he said? I-X-H-H-E-L-I-Sha. It's a Mexican god or moon god. Oh, that'd be dead. That's crazy.

Fire. And you got all kinds of stuff. I'll be coming fights. Y'all fighters, stop being scared about that. Stop ducking that smoke. And he will fight any boxer too. Anybody. And you're saying, let's not taking care of your fighters,

UFC. Let's figure out of the way to make this easier for them. Y'all, you know, The world. Pay the fighters. Let's go. We got Michael Page Venom part two. We will be in the Octagon and he will train me and murder.

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