Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Millyz on Jadakiss co-sign, Eminem inspiration, & almost being ABDUCTED in Haiti for $6,000
Episode Date: April 13, 2026Millyz pulls up to The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for a raw, unfiltered conversation covering his come-up from Cambridge to earning a major co-sign from Jadakiss, building real busines...s with The Lox legend, and dropping his melodic R&P project. He breaks down going from freestyles to international stages, navigating independent vs. major label decisions, and staying consistent with new music while expanding his sound. The episode takes a wild turn as Millyz and Yayo recount a tense trip to Haiti that escalated into a real-life kidnapping scare involving cash demands and a high-speed escape, before diving into industry talk on Eminem, 50 Cent, freestyle culture with Funk Flex and Sway Calloway, and how hate, pressure, and experience shape an artist’s grind.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Yeah, the good bud.
The food was hitting.
They had smoked duck for breakfast.
There, Paris, look.
Paris, look, look, because I'm going to tell you, I don't want fame.
Look, I'll tell you all the time, murder, what I tell you?
I don't want fame like 50.
Hold on no, no.
Yo, how many, like, smoke duck, they got you unanimous with that on the end.
How many times, like, that's just like a repeat meal, like McDonald's?
Nah, it's just, nah, it's not that.
Me a murder was in Moro.
Yo, he's a one person famous for Smoke Duck.
Like, you boosted that's his revenue.
He's got.
Right.
Shut the fuck up.
Okay.
Provin.
Role!
What you get movies with?
Oh!
Rebel!
You, bro.
What?
What?
That's my video.
I would get that.
I would get that.
That's out.
Out my.
It's just a dumb.
Yeah.
It's the motherfucking real report with Turbulance Tony and.
And it's the boy.
And tell who the fuck you are, Boston's king right now.
Oh.
Yeah, man.
Cambridge finest, man.
C&B Blanco, man, Millie, you know what the vibe, man.
It's an honor to be here.
Yeah, yeah, you know what it is, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I appreciate you, man.
I appreciate you all, man.
One thing, you got the biggest co-sign from one of the best rappers on the planet.
Yeah.
Jada kiss.
And that, like, gave you the ultimate respect.
You could spit also.
You're one of the best.
You said out to my brother.
You know, when you get a cosign from a like kiss, I felt like the whole streets loved you
after that, like from Boston and New York, Connecticut.
Talk about that.
How did you meet Kiss and how did all that happen?
Man, I met Kiss.
So my manager at the time was a guy named Sethri.
He started in one mixtapes and shit like that.
And he saw a vision in me.
And he had family, like his wife's Cape Verde.
And so he knew shit about the area and mass in Boston and shit like that.
and he brought me out to New York
and I was trying to get a feature
for a song. I had a song called
The Plug at the time and he was
going through his rollerdex of rappers. He went from
Ray Kwan to a few different
rappers and then he was like, you know who I know? I know.
I know Jada Kiss. I'm like, yo, no, no, no. Fuck it,
Jay to Kiss. So we in
the Bronx at the time
and he's like, let me call
him, let me just see how I go. He's just
calling through his phone or connects.
He called Kiss Pick Up. Yo, Free, what's up?
He's like, Free's like, yo, I'm in the Bronx right now.
And K.'s like, yo, I'm in the Bronx.
I just picked up my man Kay Rosewood and I got to drop him to the halfway house.
This is the day Kiss right-hand man got out.
Right.
So he had to take him to the halfway house in the Bronx.
So it just happened like through God that when Kits is calling him, we're in the same neighborhood
in the Bronx.
So they pulled up 10 minutes later, met me, heard my shit, and it was kind of on from there.
And then, you know, I was just rocking with him like a regular relationship with Ice Pick Jay who passed on.
Rest the piece, Ice Pick Jay found out like I could sing and do a little more than rap.
And then he really brought it to the table like, no, kiss, you need to take him serious and shit.
And you know, I was just grind it after that with that stamp.
That's all I needed was the stamp just to move around.
So I'd be wondering, is you, is you signed the kiss or it's just like it was more of a stamp
a homie though?
Was it actual business done?
Yeah, no, it was actual business done.
Okay, got it.
Actual, actual, we broke Brad multiple times for sure.
That's dope.
That's dope.
Yeah.
Fire.
Fire.
That's dope.
And it's hard coming out of Boston because we were talking early about made, what
it, made men and Benzino back in the days.
That was more like the biggest thing we knew from Boston at that time.
And it's like, right now you, you just like.
Yeah, well, I came in on some Massachusetts shit.
So I'm born in Boston, but I'm raising Cambridge.
It's right across the bridge.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
And so when I came in, that was kind of my philosophy.
Like, yo, we got to utilize the whole.
Massachusetts as a whole, we gotta use the Lauren.
When I'm pulling up, I'm pulling up with the Dominicans from Lawrence.
We come on with motherfuckers from, you know, Matapen.
We're coming with people from Brockton, just utilizing the whole mass type shit.
So I feel like that's one of the things that propelled me out there too.
You know what I mean?
Talk about this new EP you got on right now, man.
Man, rhythm and pain, R&P, you know, I'd be singing a shit.
So I just wanted to be on my job.
down beat shit real quick.
So you're singing on this whole project right here?
Yeah, all melodic.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my lottic, man.
Because I've been having records where it's like I rap and then I sing and I got singing
records that was doing millions, but I think because my freestyles that went so viral, people
just kept putting me in that box like, oh, you're just a rapper, but I'm like, no, I'm
an all-around artists and my streaming shit is doing just as good as it would have been, if
I dropped a rap album right now off the melodics, it's so I'm very ecstatic and, you know, I feel
amazing about that.
Oh, shit.
Definitely,
because people know you
for the bars, of course,
and then like I said,
you get fucking...
The bars are with stamped
like coming through New York
and having the,
even having that co-sign from kids,
I felt extra pressure.
Like, I got a show,
motherfuckling,
I'm nice, like,
but now I just want to show the world.
And got you on the project
and we got a video.
That was amazing.
That was amazing.
And I don't know how
none of my music gets into
mass state prisons,
but that was one of the shit,
murder shit hit the tablet fast,
man.
And that's one of the joints they have.
He got the real plug.
He got some other shit going on.
My distro can fix it.
Sheldry.
Gozi, I'm on Empire publishing too, man.
I need my shit in the joint like you have for murders because this shit was up in a week.
Man, that's one of the ones too, man.
How is it?
How is it on Empire?
Because I hear you get a lot of bags.
Well, I'm on, yeah, I'm on their publishing side.
But yeah, I fuck with Gazi.
That's my man.
Shelter Gazi.
Hell yeah.
Gazi's sturdy.
No, that's a fact.
That was led to be on your project, though, bro,
because I definitely came up watching both of y'all.
Yeah, I appreciate that, yeah, you wanted the ones that, like,
you got the shock factor to all your shit.
Even you were with the punchlines, with the G-Unit mixtapes,
you was always looking for, not punch lines,
but like haymakers and shit, you know what I mean?
You come on with them shits.
And that kind of influence my rap style
in the sense of like, all right, I'm going to say a couple of shits,
and then I'm going to give you a haymaker,
something that's shocking.
You can't just be giving them, you know what I mean?
Jab, jab, jab, jab.
You got a haystap days.
You got Haymaker.
Listen, the mixtape days, like I tell every New York artist, you got New York,
you got some spots up state.
You got C.T.
Shout to C.T.
Always push G unit.
And then you got Boston.
I always love Boston.
You got the beautiful Cape Verdean women out there.
Shout to them.
Yeah, we do.
You know about that.
But shout to all my Africans out there.
It's just Boston just feel like, I don't know.
When we came there was just always loved.
Remember we had the, it was one mixtape, I think we had the Celtic.
We used to do the show.
We came out with Celtics shit on.
It was just crazy.
You got to find that picture.
Classic, classic.
Yeah, I find that.
You gotta find, somebody find that picture, man.
I need that picture, man.
Yeah, because Boston reminds me.
I'm gonna throw that up.
It's no different than New York.
It's a big city.
You know, y'all love y'all teams, you know?
Yeah, no, it's different though.
It's different in the sense, like,
we proud, like sports come first in Massachusetts
in general.
Like, when you're a kid, they're gonna,
they're gonna be telling you in fourth grade and shit.
Like, you know, the Red Sox is in the Tiltics.
It's the Red Sox.
You're like a big sports.
We really come from sports culture.
If you're in mass, like, you have to be.
You're kind of weird if you're not into sports culture and mass.
No, yeah.
That's what our shit is based on.
I feel like New York is kind of based on sports,
but I feel entertainment overrides sports a little bit.
I know the Knicks is the biggest shit in the world and the Yankees and shit,
but y'all got so much big artists that came from here.
You know what I mean?
All the way from Hove to 50 to Frank Sinatra, right?
He from here, right?
Yeah, Frank Sinatra.
DMX?
Nah, of course.
You know, the lineage is crazy.
Yeah.
It don't stop.
The list goes on and on.
How do you be feeling when your freestyles go viral,
like the academics post?
Do you feel like I'm getting my respect, man,
because, you know, it'd be hard.
Everybody be feeling like, oh, he can't talk that shit.
Or, you know, the complexion.
They'd be like, why he ain't talking that shit like that?
But then when you see the streets do embrace you,
how that shit be feeling, man?
Man, that shit felt good.
Like, you know, I really, I think New York
is one of the last places where you still
got a lead with skill. People still respect bars from the, from the, from the, from the,
from the OGs to even the young drill rappers, you'd be surprised. The K-Flock's generation,
like they still give it up for bars. Like I still meet little young drill rappers and those
kids that's really in the street and they're in tune with bars. I still meet an 18-year-old
to break down bar and it's probably one of the only places that's really like that. So I love
New York for that. It's the mecca of this shit. So it felt real good to get the
validation here because I remember being here for five years and
Nobody knew me.
And then one day that shit just started changing.
And I was like, oh, they recognized me in New York.
It's less.
And New York love is different too.
You gotta think about this though.
When you get that code sign from Jada kiss, it's almost like a slam dunk because it's like-
You gotta, you gotta, earn it though.
You gotta spit some shit to make-
He still gotta go out of earn it.
No, no, I'm not saying.
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying when he spit, if he could impress Jada-Kis, niggas know he's fit for what he's fucking
doing.
Got you.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, hell yeah.
But it's still big, big feet to, how you said, big shoes to step in and shit like that.
So yeah, you know, you gotta put that shit all on the line.
But it worked out with the bars and shit.
And that's what got, I didn't, because I didn't get any industry real cosigns besides kids.
It was just kiss and then just putting shit out.
Yeah, you got to go work.
Labels were like, I don't see it.
All the labels said I don't see it.
None of that by the time they saw it was because my data line was going up.
You know what I mean?
Like my stream.
and like undeniable numbers realistically and statistically shit like that.
Because you don't have fly by night fans.
That's one thing I'm looking at you.
No, I got a yeah, got a little core.
You got people that you have a core fan base.
Like what's the kid Russell?
Like, what's the kid Russell with the long hair?
I think his name is.
Russ.
Russ.
Right, like, I don't know.
Sometimes I think it's better for artists to have like, like G-Unit.
We had a core fan base.
Like people- Yeah, I had the whole world.
That's a fair.
That's a fair.
That's more than the core fan base, but now, hell-year.
You know what I'm saying?
career because it's early.
Like you know, I look at your career.
I'm like, he got a core fan base of people that really love balls and love what he do.
That's why I know you, what's your favorite part of Europe?
I know you go, you hit Europe, but I know they love you out there because they love
balls in Europe.
I'm going to, I'm going to say London because I get a lot of love in London.
Like, yeah, London's like one of my main markets.
Like when I look at the streaming data and shit like that, like heavy in London.
So you ain't worried about being that you so respected for bars right now, right?
You ain't worried about it on this new project going with the whole singing shit.
You don't think people are going to, like you're going to throw some of your fans off a little bit?
I was, bro, but I just had to do what was in my heart.
You know what I mean?
I had to go with my passion.
Like, I'm going to go with, I got to go with my move.
And what I feel is God's move because I feel like music is spiritual.
Like, you ever put a beat on and the words just come to your mind?
Right, right, right.
It's just you and that beat.
That's God.
That's God.
That's God.
But it's just giving you the instrumental and the, he's giving you.
Yo, my son, this is your talent right here.
Go get crazy.
So if God's giving me the, when I'm doing them singing songs,
I'm doing them shits in like in a minute, two minutes just,
it's like unconscious, like a stream of consciousness.
So I know like this is what I'm supposed to be doing through God.
And that's how I feel I can't go against that
to try to push the shit that might sell a little more, you know?
But I'm going to still come back with hits and rap hits and shit like that.
Yeah, I'm in this era right now trying to show people in my all-around artists, you know.
So what gives you the drive though?
Like for you, you got the bars and shit, like, when you started like, what motivated
you?
I know you heard G-U in the days because you still young, I know.
But like what motivated you when you started getting in the booth?
Like young, I started really battle rapping and shit, like, just around the neighborhood.
I'd be like the kid.
It was like, you know, I was the kid you could take to a different neighborhood and just be like,
Like, yo, this little white boy can rap, go ahead, rap.
Right.
Monefuckers did that to me nine million times to, like to now when, that shit probably
happened like five years ago.
Somebody just told me, oh, you rap, rap?
No, it ain't that no more.
Yeah, that was when I was 13, 14, 15, all the way probably up to like 18 type shit.
But I just always had to drive, bro.
I felt like this was my purpose.
Before I made any money from this shit, I was like, this is my purpose.
What I'm here for.
Like, this is my gift.
Even though I got lost and doing other shit for it.
I always knew, like, rap was my shit.
I practiced rapping in the elevator, like, to elevator music.
You know what I mean?
You ever hear a boring-ass beat, like, you get in the elevator,
they're playing with it?
I see how I can catch the elevator beat.
Like, I see any beat that come on TV, the phone,
you have a call to, Julian.
It's like they give you the phone music while you're on hold and shit.
I'm rapping to this shit.
Like, I'm trying to catch any type of beat that's out there.
So sometimes I'm thinking raps, man.
Like a-Bank.
You go to the studio and do 10 records.
Like, I might do two.
You're going to do 10.
You like that?
I know you like that.
Yeah, but I won't record for, like, a while, though.
Like, I might record every, you know, two, three weeks and then lock in.
Like, I'm not in the studio every night because I got to live a little.
I got to, you know?
I got to live, like, do the podcast.
I go out.
You spit out of the studio every day.
No, I just, when I lock in, I lock in tough.
I lock and I lock in tough, man.
How you felt when you did that 2016 type of though?
Talk about that.
But that was crazy because that was, you went crazy on that one.
Yeah, I knew I had the plug to get in there and I would just wait every day for it.
I would wait every day and hope that they'd have a slot for me because I couldn't get no.
Everybody in there had a major label, PR agent.
Me, I'm just in that shit.
And they're just telling me, yo, if somebody don't show up, you could be a replacement.
Man, I was there for it.
And I took that opportunity.
And I took the opportunity, the guy who helped me was named Yomi.
He's at Apple Music right now.
And that's just been one of my solid connects.
That's been one of my real solid connects.
I never had a lot of connections in the industry, but I didn't need a lot.
You know, I just needed the people that I needed for real.
But now, that was some validation, but it still took four years after that to really start getting my shit cranking.
The pandemic was when everything started to be like, all right, I can make money off this shit for real.
I know.
I noticed you with the ladies a lot.
I noticed you with the twins.
Make sure y'all get a picture to him with the twins.
What's the twins name?
Which twins?
Which ones?
That's how many twins it was you was with?
It was the twins.
Double-dose twins?
The double-dose twins?
He always has the girls in the video.
Always got the girls in the video.
Shout out the double-dose twins.
I know those twins out to them, right?
A lot of women.
You hang out with the women a lot.
Was that like a strategy of yours?
Like the...
I just think, you know, bro, I came from standing on the same street for fucking 10 years
just surrounding our dudes, man, forever.
Like, so we gotta switch up the energy.
I'm in this shit.
If they want to be around, we got to balance it out.
Like, we could go, I'd rather us go out right now, and it'd be 20 girls and shit.
And we just got to add one person that can destroy anyone, shit like that.
Like, but, man, we got to balance out the energy.
Keep that feminine energy around.
Like, if it's all dudes in the club, the club's going to get shot up.
It's just going to go on.
Like, you add the females there.
Shit is cool, you know.
So, yeah, I just be trying to enjoy life, man.
And I take it, that's the motivation for the new project.
You just see you're singing to the ladies.
Like, fuck that, I'm talking to y'all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I feel like sometimes even when you rapping,
I'm a rap about your mind goes to the most extreme shit you've been through.
Naturally, whatever's the extreme shit,
I feel like that's what you're not going to just rap about going to the corner store
and getting a sandwich.
Definitely.
You're going to rap about the time when you was banging out with police
or whatever the fuck was going on.
Whatever is the extreme sitting in life,
that's what's going to hit your mind first.
But I'm like,
I'm going to just go through some extreme love and heartbreak
with some vibes,
and that's going to be the extreme shit.
Instead of rapping about street shit,
I'm going to swap it out,
and I'm going to start, you know,
falling in love with some vibes
and getting my heart broke a little bit,
and that's going to get me music,
and it did, you know?
Allegedly.
Say allegedly.
He said, you ain't break my heart.
I'm just like, you know,
don't think you broke my heart.
You don't think that.
I would think that.
I used you for the material.
Definitely.
I mean, you're getting out your shell.
You know, everybody knows you for bars.
So now you're doing the melodic shit.
Yeah, for sure.
I feel like that shit's just staying the touch of time, too.
You know, rap beats changed already like six months and shit.
Like, what's the new shit?
But that singing shit, man, you could go straight over guitar and get busy.
I know you're getting a big bag shelter empire.
Y'all know y'all getting some.
Empire sent me.
I mean, what's up.
Empire, can send me a bag too, man.
But independent versus major label.
Like, what made you go to independent route?
Like, what made you want to?
I didn't want to.
I would assign to Def Jam for $20,000.
And they could have my contract in perpetuity.
Yeah.
So, you know, they just didn't see it because at the time, bro.
You know, I always laugh at murder.
Not to cut you off about this $10,000 deal.
See, my man.
But he said he was.
You know what it?
Real talk.
See, look, exactly.
And I told you, when I signed for $10,000 on top of that, Mills,
I was on the run for shooting somebody.
Shout out to my guy, D from Rough Riders.
And he sawed me at the time.
He respected my situation.
He was like, where are you on the run for shooting somebody?
And he still gave me the deal and a bag of guns.
A bag of hammers right here.
And the bag of guns on top of that.
You know what I mean?
Shout out the D.
That's my brother.
He showed me a lot of love.
He would have signed a dev jam for 20,000 for the 20 pack.
Yeah, for 20 men, at a certain point, because I had been out in New York, this is after the
Cypher.
I'm trying to, I just want to say I did something with my life, bro, and nobody's showing
interest.
I'm just like, man, just to say I have a deal.
I just wanted to go back home and pop it like, yeah, I'm fucking signed the Deaf Jam.
Like, I got a gangster, I did it for $20,000.
Maybe 10, bro.
They could have walked me down, like.
You know, you're hip-hop, because for every rapper at a time, there was a time where
Everybody wanted to be on Def Jam Records.
So I say that to say, like, I went independent by default.
And I ended up getting obviously way bigger numbers than that and still owning the music.
And by the time I dropped the tape, I started catching motion in 2021.
I dropped the tape.
And then I got a check after the tape.
They had gave me 25 bands for the tape, which was a lot at the time.
That was my biggest deal.
Then I got, like, a $40, $50,000 check after.
I was like, what's this for another album?
And they're like, no, this is like, your shit recouped the 20.
and now you'd have made 50 bands or whatever it was.
You was like, ooh.
And I was like, oh, that's independence.
I get it.
All right.
And then.
What's this for?
I made this.
Oh.
Yeah.
And then I started just dropping like that.
So I never had the machine to like make me super famous and shit.
But I had the willpower and the internet to make myself get a little niche fan base to the
point where I could eat off this shit.
But I still want to, you know, I still want to swing for the fences and shit.
I would take the right major deal if it was right, but the independents shit is what God
wanted me to do for sure.
More money, more money.
You know what record I felt like really put people like in your world for real?
I feel like the records you did with Al B.L.L. and Free Leaf War.
I feel like once that record came out, I feel like it was like, ah.
Wrist takers. I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
Like, risk takers is the hardest record to come out to East Coast and last 10.
something here's like just as a posse cut.
There's no hook on it.
It's four and a half minutes and the shit is 20 million streams away from gold
with no money put into it.
Just we dig the shit, shot the shit in treacherous-ass areas
and uploaded the video and that motherfucker's going and is streaming
and it's that end.
Leaf ain't never been here to push it with us.
He even booked the whole time.
Free Leaf Ward, man.
Free Leaf Ward, man.
He's the best rapper in the world under 30.
Listen, let me tell you, if you're from the streets and you got that hard body karate bars, Uncle Murder going to put you on first.
He put me on about Al Bial.
Look, he put me on about Al Bial when he was like still locked up type shit.
Like, you're in jail.
No, niggas in jail about his shit.
He's going to flatten him in jail.
He's dying.
He was killing the jails.
He was killing the jails.
He's definitely one of my favorite new rappers out of Jersey.
I feel like he's, we, New York.
We want them too.
Facts.
You know what I mean?
Straight gangster.
Everybody know he's weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got a tape coming with Albi.
We've been locking him.
I got a tape coming with him.
And hopefully,
drop that bitch to summer.
Yeah, hopefully Leaf get home and time
to give us a couple verses and shit, man.
That's what we want Abby Al and Leaf on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They put me on.
Got to get Leaf.
To Leaf forward.
Now, I know Philly rappers,
because niggas from Mass and Boston can spit,
niggas for Philly can spit New York.
You just know.
He put me on Leaf Forward, bro.
And, yo, we be in my.
Miami bumping that shit.
We be overseas.
Leaf Ward said we don't talk to 12.
We don't even speak at midnight.
Leaf be saying that shit.
And he's saying it so calm.
My shit is risk takers, mob music.
Marble music, he knows that's my shit.
Yeah, yeah, that's my voice.
Like I feel like if Meek Mills would have signed certain niggas
or Dream Chasers would have been out of head for me.
When you think about it.
There's so much talent in Philly.
In Philly, the talent is out the roof.
I'm not going to lie.
Like I feel like.
Came together with you.
him and Albie L.
That's a classic.
You know, I originally had that shit.
I named that shit my realest friend,
because at the end I said, my mother said,
I remember talking about the gun in the old.
Yeah, man, that's what I told my mother
every time she found that gun on.
I said, I didn't see my homie eyes rolling back right in front of me.
That's what I told my mother every time
she found that gun on me.
It's told her this my realest friend
when everybody go to run on me.
So the song was my realest friend.
And I had Dawn Kew and Albie.
Those was the people I wanted.
Did you vision for it?
Yeah, because Albie had just came home.
Then I put, somehow I got in touch with Leaf Ward
and just work, I'm like, all right, I need,
my homie Nip too was telling me like,
you, Leif got the streets and the chokehold.
We can't wait till he get home.
It was harder to track him down, like, you know,
for the video and shit, but he knew, he's seen the play in the vision.
I pulled up in Philly, he really didn't know I was coming in.
I'm like, yo, I'm coming there tomorrow.
We're just going to shoot a video, bro.
Come on, bro.
I got Alby's part done.
Let's do it, bro.
The song going to do $20 million.
That was our goal at the time.
He's like, all right, I get out to Philly.
Like, Dan, you really here, bro?
Look at that.
He's like, all right, let me throw some shit on.
And we went to some, we was in some sort of war zone out in Philly.
Yeah, that's a thing I thought about you too.
You're getting the wars on shoot.
Yeah.
Bills pull up.
He pulled up with me and Brooklyn.
He pulled up in Brooklyn.
We shot the video in Brooklyn.
Haiti, bro.
Huh?
Haiti, bro.
You went to Haiti?
I went to Haiti, bro.
This nigga, this nigga, I was in, I was in Haiti.
He ain't never even been to Haiti, bills.
I was it.
You're supposed to go out there.
It's treacherous.
There's trash.
I was in Haiti in 2018, 2019,
and this is when they snatching bodies,
but I'm not knowing because I'm so locked in with the Zos.
I grew up with all Zos and my man's like,
yo, come to Haiti.
And I made the decision within 24 hours,
I bought the ticket.
By the time I'm telling people, like my moms and different people,
they're like, you sure, but I'm so fried.
I already booked a ticket.
They're like, yo, you fried and you should.
Boom, me, I'm in the, I'm in the airport.
I'm at the gate.
Now I see now it's people walk around now.
There's no more white people.
It's over for that.
I get on the plane.
It's definitely over for all.
No more white people.
I'm like, all right, we're going to Haiti for real.
And I should have knew something because the cameraman who was coming out there is my man's cameraman,
but he was on my flight.
And before we boarded the plane, he was like, yo, I don't know about this, bro.
And I'm like, which is me?
I'm not, I haven't read the news lately.
So, yo, I told him, I'm like, what you mean?
What you mean?
You don't know about this, bro.
Like, we sturdy and he goes, my aunt's telling me, like, really don't go there.
And I'm like, bro, you straight, bro.
Come on, bro.
We get out there.
We land in Port of Prince, man.
That's the most aggressive airport.
I'm going to tell you good shit about Haiti, too.
Like, I ain't just going to sit.
You know what I mean?
But you get.
No, beautiful, incredible shit.
Just the roll of the day.
But we get out there, and the airport is just super aggressive.
Like, if you got suitcases, motherfuckers just kind of like moving his shit out the way.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's just, you got to be sturdy.
You know in New York, how you got to walk fast and shit, like, Hades really like that.
And then when we got out, man, when you get out, it's the motherfuckers.
The motherfuckers is on the chain link fence looking at you like food type shit.
Yeah.
But we, we wasn't.
No, we had, we had the army.
Like, we got all the deportees from our city and then we got real zoos with us.
We got sticks.
But it's still like they don't really care that much.
So we get in shit, we drive it and it's just every man for themselves.
It's like this big-ass street, but there's no real lanes to it.
But everybody's just doing their thing and getting through six people on a moped shit going on.
But then we got to the, we got to the, we got to the, we got to the hotel, though.
We get to the hotel, Cahuiba.
And once you pass the doors to Cahuebe, they got the sticks out there.
But once you're in there, that's just paradise.
And then I started seeing Wild White.
people in there too from like other countries and shit. And I was like, no, Haiti's like,
this not like how they say it is. But then I had to, yeah, you got to make it to that spot.
And we went to the club and some of the realest shit of my life happened to me at the club.
But yeah, like we started. We held it. But it's serious though. Haiti's one of them places.
We were supposed to go to Haiti. Me, 50, the whole unit banks, everybody. We were supposed to go
to Haiti. And this is when I think the earthquake happened.
And we were supposed to go Wycliffe, shout to Wycliffe.
You know what I mean?
And Wycliffe got shot in the hand.
Trip canceled after that, nigga.
Yeah.
You know what it is, yay?
The nigga, no, I'm trying to explain it because he's like, I want to go to Haiti.
My mom's, you know?
But why you didn't just take a trip breaking on your own?
Niggas not like that, you.
Bro, you could get your body snatched, though.
But I ain't going to lie, but they're going to say.
Yo, listen on.
I'm down with 50 cent.
Nick, niggins.
Yeah.
Yo, what's that.
He's Haitian.
You think 50 going to pay that ransom?
Fifty might think about that.
Jay are worth that $2 million.
I don't have time to negotiate with me getting kidnapped.
This guy is crazy.
I know you ain't putting up no Bitcoin job.
What you mean?
Yeah, you ain't got nothing.
You ain't put up no Bitcoin for you, my dick.
I put up a big coin.
I put up a big coin.
You ain't got nothing up.
Yeah, barbecue.
I need a million dollars.
No, you know what's so crazy, though.
I fuck with this rap out there named Kder G.
I bumped into him.
He's shot out to Kater G, man.
You're doing your shit out there.
Kater J.
And I locked in with them.
They were real serious people.
But my man, you know, my manager, Haitian, he on the phone with K to G and shit.
And he's saying something to him like, yeah, when you come into Haiti, my man is just like,
yeah, you know, it's kind of crazy with barbecue.
K2G's like, nah, that's my gang.
You're straight, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
So barbecue fuck with the people, too.
It's like.
Shout out to barbecue, man.
You got to go to Haiti, eh?
Yo, it's not like we eating smoked duck out there.
Oh, my God.
No, no, no, no.
But they got the best food.
I ain't going to lie.
You just got to make it to that motherfucking resort.
You make it to the resort?
It's amazing.
And I'm sure there's a lot of beaches and people are super nice.
And it was amazing.
But yeah, we went through some real shit just going to the club in Haiti.
Like, we went to the club and there's dudes who hang out outside of the club.
They're like young, probably like 18, maybe like 14 to 24.
Like, but they pressed us but we're like love outside of the club.
See what I'm saying?
That press.
No, but it was love.
Kidnap.
Check it out, though.
No, check it out.
No, listen, I'm gonna tell you some real shit.
So we get to the club.
I walk in and give me dab.
I got real love for Haitians,
like more than probably any other nationality
because I grew up with them.
Wepa, Blum, where Aishian.
It's fucking real with me, right?
And so.
I know, come on.
So.
You make me taste something.
So, no, look.
I don't want to say the wrong thing.
Say something.
Let me hear.
Exactly.
Say some.
I don't want to say.
That's all right, man.
Oje Fiddell.
I know what you said.
You know what you said.
You know what's going on.
We walk into the club as we walking in,
dudes me, yo, Millie's.
They had to drop on me.
They're like, yo, Millies, what's up, bro?
Like, I fuck with you.
I'm like, yeah, I fuck with you too.
Boo, bop, bop.
I go into the club.
Man, they blow on fire in the club.
Like, bad bitches.
No, bad bitches, though.
Like, bad bitches dancing.
Blowing fire in the club.
All type of crazy shit.
The club is lit.
Some DJ named Tony Mix.
Tony Max, Tony Mix.
One of them, he was like DJ drama out there,
some shit.
Like, he was out this world.
The club's so crazy.
we walk out the same kids
who met us out there
now he come and dat me
again and he's talking but how they talk
it's just real serious and aggressive anyways
so one of my men
who I'm wet
he's like one because we had a lot of people
deported from our city
to there so one of my men is grab him on his
wrist
once that happened
he looked at the dude grabbing his wrist
and shit just started going sideways
so they're like come on males they start rushing me
like into the car type shit.
So, niggas started shaking.
See, this is where I talk about the trip to Haiti.
Kind of, right?
Kind of, but mind you.
Let me set the stage.
Let me set the stage, though.
We're out there.
When we pulled up to the club, we was in 20 SUVs,
sticks.
Every car got a stick in it.
I'm feeling real sturdy.
We parked in a little gravel parking area space.
At the time,
there's no gate in front of it.
So when we come out and we walk out
and now they meet us for the second time,
I'm showing him love.
I'm telling people,
no, I'll chop it with all of them right now.
My man grabs him, shit goes left.
Everyone's like, come on, come on.
We start pushing to the parking lot.
So we go into the parking lot.
But now the parking lot I was in with no gate.
Now this shit got a whole steel gate.
So now we just in there
and there was like this back door to get into the little.
So where was the sticks out, the Haitian sticks?
So we got sticks.
We got sticks in the car.
But the problem is we only got, we had, we had 20 cars, though,
but each one went to a different place.
So we only got, we only got three cars now, right?
Now, all of the kids.
They're feeling this third years.
They walked down here.
Now, listen.
Now, listen, all of the kids that was kind of pressing us out.
I want to say pressing because I feel like they were showing love.
Yeah, that's how I'd be.
I don't know.
It's not my, you know what I'm saying?
It's crazy, though, they just even go to Haiti.
But it's love, though.
I move with God, so it was good.
But we walk into the parking lot.
We get into the truck.
I'm still not thinking nothing because I don't see so many people yelling at each other in Creole and shit.
I'm just like, this is some regular shit.
I'm really looking at Instagram.
Now I kind of look up, man, it's people surrounding our truck.
Like, for real.
And now they banging on the windows and shit like this.
So I'm still thinking it's regular.
I mean, way worse than belly, though.
You know what they're knocking on the car?
Slaping that shit.
Those little kids, yeah, the shit like this.
So I asked my man, my man's real calm.
Shout out to Blaze.
Shout out to Blaze.
No, I go to Haiti.
No, Haiti will rise.
Haiti's gone.
Got some shit coming.
But my man Blazers is in the car.
He's a very calm individual.
And when he looked up and he said,
you know, what's going on, man?
I said, oh, shit, that's when everything just shattered for me.
I'm like, oh, we're in a bad predicament right now, for real.
And now our driver, our driver, he's the one I thought was square.
He's my men's older brother.
My man, Mango Swurbs, older brother.
Right.
I thought he was square.
The whole trip, no bullshit.
So you had him in Haiti, too?
They had me in Haiti, yeah.
I'm like, cool.
I ain't going to lie, because if it was, if I had them in, if I can't have people in Haiti.
They can have me, though.
But so my man, mango Swirves, brother, I always thought he was.
was real just square hasten guy, but he's showing teeth like a wolf, like the wolf's there,
and he's barking back at him.
Like, yo, I'm telling you all, bro.
But they're not scared of the guns, bro.
And they relay it.
You have the chop of them.
He's going to kill.
And I tell him, I'm like, yo, what are they saying to us, bro?
Just give me the basics of what they're saying, bro.
And he's like, yo, they want $6,000 American for us to leave this parking lot.
Oh, shit.
So I'm like, I'm like, damn.
It's kind of crazy, but I still, I be having so much favor in God.
Like, I'm like, look here.
You ain't keep going out of this.
You see why I ain't been out there?
I'm starting, but my, yo, my driver's still showing, like, aggression.
Like, dudes are still showing aggression to them.
It's just a lot of aggression type shit.
But they wanted the 6,000 because the way your man grabbed the niggum.
No, bro.
Extortion.
All kind of fucker in.
You and our shit.
This is our shit.
You're, y'all is rappers from America.
Kick up this, kick up this brief.
Yeah.
You know what 6,000 in American?
Like, a niggop kidnap.
Yeah, imagine we go out there.
You got your jury.
Oh, your jury on.
50.
Give us a million, $2 million.
Yeah.
Niggas is stuck like Chuck, boy.
So, so we're in there.
Shit just keep going on.
And then somebody with like a fake sort of swat vest.
Like, you don't know if the police or the police or they cook it or whatever it is.
Somebody with some sort of swat vests come in and he's like, hey, everybody gets out the, this shit.
Now, in that time, one of the people we was with in the car behind us, run, pop the gate,
open the gate.
As soon as we opened the gate, my driver just floored that shit.
We almost hit some kids getting out of there.
And he did about 70.
He did about 70, and these is back streets.
He's doing like 7.
You know, that's fast on like little back streets that ain't lit.
He did 70 back to a hotel called Weebe.
Once I passed that gun line with the security, I sat there.
I'm like, oh, I ain't safe here.
Like, this is crazy.
Look at you.
And then the next day,
there ain't nobody's sturdy in Haiti, nigga.
Now the next day, now the next day, they tell me, yeah, people's getting their body
snatched out here.
Like, so people, and I'm like, what you mean?
They're, like, they're getting their body snatch.
Like, people are, they're getting kidnapped out here.
And I'm like, kidnapped.
This is some shit.
Like, I'm thinking, like, just treacherous shit.
But I'm not thinking kidnapped.
So the next day, like, I kind of play close to the hotel.
He's not trying to play ghost at all.
We still had to go out, though.
But now I'm just sturdy.
Like, I'm standing against cars, I'm making because a van could drive by and they could just take your body.
I'm like 165 or some shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, man, but long story short, by the time I got to the airport, I felt real blessed.
But I'm glad I went out there.
And I say that, that's a, yeah, that's a dramatic story.
I got to go, nigger.
That's a dramatic story.
But there was a lot of love out there.
Amazing food.
A lot of love.
It's just you've got to move super sturdy.
And when they do fix it up,
because you know, America and all of them
been robbing these motherfuckers for everything.
They've been keeping Haiti down
because Haiti independently freed itself in 1804.
And then, like, why is there no 1804 movie, though?
Yeah.
With Tucson.
St. Laurent and all of that.
Tucson, man.
Like.
Yeah, he freed the slaves.
Yeah, there should be an 1804
just like there's the shit with Russell Crowe, Gladiator.
Why we can't see them killing
19 million French people.
That's too crazy.
But that's why they try to hold Haiti down.
But once the fuckery gets over with, Haiti's going to rise back
because there's no more beautiful beaches, beautiful women, beautiful, amazing food.
It's all set up for the wind.
It's all set up for the wind.
You have like you telling me something.
You never been there yet, brother.
Let my man tell me that been there.
You know what I'm saying?
But he got out of there.
Murder is beautiful.
He got out of there.
He went in there.
He got a $6,000 parking lot.
Nigel, you ain't here that?
If we went out 50, what you think is going to happen with us?
When we 50, we're going to have fucking,
$60,000.
Look at here, $60,000.
We went 50, $50 good.
Me and you go there up tall-thill.
Yo, that's 50 in them boy.
Kidnap them.
Now we went barbecue, getting barbecue.
Yeah, I can't fuck with this thing.
Barbecue.
He don't mean it, barbecue.
We don't want no smoke.
I love barbecue.
We love you.
We love you, man.
Damn.
Haitian niggas is crazy.
They're not trying to...
Nah, I ain't going to lie.
You can't tell that nigger six thousand in the park.
That is great.
Bro, I'm gonna keep it a buck.
I call that Haitian power, bro.
I really believe, like, Haitian's got a different type of power.
You got to understand.
They overthrew the French army with like extracting poison
from blower fishes and thinking and just having more heart and will
power, like, I'm trying to tell you, bro.
And that's why, and when I pushed into the game, it was like the terrain that they was used
to, the army wasn't used to.
So when they hit them, they hit them at like a certain kind of season where they knew they
was going to be fucked up in Haiti.
Like Haitians, both my parents from Haiti, I've never met.
Like, every Haitian I met is crazy.
Like, our parents is like, we was trained like military as little.
Don't go in the refrigerator.
You go to somebody's house, take your shoes off.
You know what I mean?
Perfew.
Hey.
Curfew.
My mom's.
Yeah.
Haitian.
Listen.
Murder.
Murder.
When I came into the game, we grew up different.
That's who the fuck I pushed in with because I grew up with all of those.
So I'm pushing in with Dominicans and Haitians for real.
And that's what made my shit different.
You know, it's never been a white boy in the history of rap to move around in a
sad way, man.
Stopping with the Zos.
I got Haitian power too.
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No, sleep, Boba.
Nah.
It was it.
Everything was strict because Haitians, they'll give you tough love.
So my mom's way of love was, now I love you, I'm going to work.
That's it.
Niggas used to joke on me, beans and rice every day, chill chicken.
You know, beans and rice every day.
You know what I'm saying?
Look, we had a strict lifestyle.
We got in trouble.
It was all hell break loose.
It's a drug dealer.
Every Haitian parent wants you to be a doctor, nigga.
Dr. Lawyer!
Niggas was drunk.
Y'all niggas is street niggas.
Y'all niggas ain't no doctors, man.
Y'all niggas don't look like no doctors to be, man.
I ain't gonna lie, my man.
People don't look like no doctors, but.
We're from the same street,
and I love his mom's to death.
She was so strict when I was young.
I was scared of her.
I'm like, man, I want no problems.
Listen, my hood, look.
In my hood, everybody, crib got raided.
Shout out the mama love.
You know why?
Because I couldn't have company.
Nigs couldn't.
Every day in crib, my next door name,
crib got raided, my man around the corner,
crib got raided.
Yo, his crib, never get.
Nigger, my mom's, no company.
No company!
Off my punch!
Off my porch.
Niggas, they know what I'm saying.
Off my plus.
They want the strictest word.
I learned all the curse words.
If I was smart, I would have learned, like, the real shit.
I learned all the curse words and shit.
So I know how I tell the motherfucker like,
Femmejole, man.
You know what I mean?
Femmejole mu, my cock, motherfucker.
And so who said, Glenn, where.
Like, I know all the worst shit to say.
Yeah, he no more Creole than you, sir.
He might do.
He might do, yeah.
He do. He do.
I want to hear you say some shit right now.
You cocked out shit.
You cocked out shit.
You piece of shit, motherfucker.
What the fuck he just said?
It's called you a piece of shit.
Oh, that did he call me?
I know the curses because my mom just to curse me out.
That's it.
I knew the curse.
They know.
And Craig on the real before.
Hang with the Zos.
That's right.
I told you.
Our parents never tell us I love you.
They go to work.
And that's it, nigga.
They never do you.
Nah.
Haitian parents are going to tell you they love it.
It's just like Jamaicans.
Like that.
Haitians and the island.
We're from Queens.
So that's all I came up with is around Jamaicans, Haitians,
Haitians, Guyanese, Trinney.
All that was my like every, I knew niggers that tough Guyanese niggas, tough Trinny niggas, tough Haitian niggas, do I'm saying?
Tough Jamaican niggas.
Niggas, pull out them old school knobs that flip around and shit, like back in the day.
The butterfly shit.
It's like some shit with a little handle on it.
Niggers all drive sticks and shit to be wilding out.
Oh, man.
And you know the Jamaican.
The chickens had the weed spots on the back in the days.
The one of the things.
That shit on lock.
But want some more drinks.
So this project you got dropping.
Who you got doing?
What's some of the feet?
Or do you got any features on this project?
Yeah, I got my man Richie Rosee.
I got him on a big song on there.
And I got a hancho.
Yeah, you know, Hancho's super stamped with the girls.
That's helping my record go up with the, you know, bad bitch community.
Okay, okay.
So Hancho, we need a hanscho.
Yeah.
Hancho, man.
We need you on the show, Hancho.
Yeah, Hantso, we need you to pull up over here, man.
We need Hancho on the show.
Y'all shit is lit, man.
Yeah, we work in consistency is the key.
You know, we got people like you on the show, man.
Hell yeah.
I got to go to Morocco with you, though, man.
Some of that smoked duck, like.
What's your favorite spots overseas?
See, the shit you'll be saying is real extravagant.
I don't think I'll reach that level.
Like, I'm trying to think, like, London.
Paris is cool.
Paris is a little bougie and shit.
Parish is boozy.
You didn't go see the Mona Lisa?
You're not in the shit like that.
No, I would, but I don't know.
I got to get the plug for that.
The Mona Lisa, the Lou?
No, you can just go to the Lou.
Security way.
I'm gonna go to Lou one day.
But I like, like, like, self-o-mone.
I like, like D.R and shit, man.
I like to go to DR and go to La Capit Thal, man.
We know what's going on in D.
Yeah, but I go to, I'm going to D.R at a different way, man.
Okay, okay.
tapping in like, you know, we got many DR and MAZ.
You ever heard of Lawrence?
No.
You heard of Lawrence?
In DR?
No.
It's many DR in Massachusetts.
Oh, no.
But it's a town.
It's all Dominicans type shit.
Like, it's a city in mass.
All Dominicans, though.
So how y'all got the Washington Heights out there?
Okay, yeah.
Okay.
Dijk.
We got that in a major, major, major, major, major way.
So when I go to La Capital, they already know me,
because, you know, we just tapped in from so many people coming back and forth from Boston
and shit. So you'd be known on the Spanish music too, niggins?
A little bit. A little bit. I got a Spanish song with TV guns and shit, but yeah, you
know, I fuck with some of the Dimbaud and shit like that.
How do Cape Verdeans get to Boston? I always wanted that.
I don't know. I don't know. Never been to Cape Verdean. I think like 90% of them.
Yeah, they got Black Sand Beaches I heard.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Yeah. Black Sand beaches. They got
Kachupa.
You know what Kachupa is?
What's that?
That's like their famous dish and shit.
I don't want to get it wrong.
Oh, so you got Cape Verdi and girlfriends.
You know about all that.
I definitely hired Cape Verdi and girlfriends for sure.
Because y'all used to the Cape Verdean women out there.
That's one thing y'all got.
It's just a mixture of people.
I ain't go a lot.
They're like a national treasure when I move around this with everybody telling me rappers
is a basketball place.
Y'all got Cape Verdy and women.
Nah, because Cape Verdi, I always knew Boston for that.
Like you, they had beautiful women.
We used to go on a mixed state tours.
And they'd be like, oh, see, we're from Cape Verdea.
And I'm like, where's Cape Verde at?
And they'd be like, Africa.
So you know.
CV.
Right.
So you'd be like, damn, these chicks is bad.
So I always wondered like why everybody in Boston is Cape Verdean.
Because we don't have, we don't have too much Cape Verdeans in New York.
I think we got.
We got Haitians.
Yeah, we got 90% of the population.
If I'm not, you know, one of them shit, 80, 90% it came to Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
Like Providence and all that too.
That's what I'm saying.
I never met a girl from New York from Cape Verde.
Me neither.
Only Boston.
Me neither.
So you said you got a project with Albi-I.
When y'all, when y'all drop, I know the speed's gonna be looking forward to that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna try to get it.
He got me barring off.
He got me barring off.
So.
Okay.
I'm gonna do that and I'm gonna drop again, continue to drop, man.
That's the name of the game with this shit for me.
Like, just volume, yeah, I gotta just drop, drop, drop.
And one of the shit that'll hurt you as an artist is feeling like, damn, this a song that should blow up.
up, you're going to drop about 10 of them and be like, damn, what happened?
Nothing happened with it.
That was my baby, you know what I mean?
But you got to just keep going.
And I look at my mind like a factory in Colombia or Peruvia where they make the cocaine
and shit.
Like, I got an unlimited amount of this shit in my mind.
So I use it like, you know, in that manner.
How do you feel like that?
I know what you feel like a record posted dude like bigger, like these posted do more numbers,
but it don't.
That shit can fuck you up.
That shit can fuck your confidence up for real.
But I feel like it's just the key to just keep dropping and look at it.
Like, I can make a million of these.
Like that's not my best song.
You can never look at it like.
Don't fall in love with the record like that.
Yeah, don't fall in love with the record like that.
I think artists don't know what the hit is.
You don't.
It's just going to come to you naturally.
It just comes.
And the people are going to tell you what's the hit too.
You never know what the hit is.
In your mind, it could be your favorite record.
Yeah, exactly.
I had to try to learn to separate myself from that because one of my distro deals
It was a way bigger deal and we blew like 75,000 on this record that I, like, in my mind,
I was like, this is the shit.
And that record is not even in my top 100 stream songs.
And I blew 75,000 on it.
So that was your favorite record.
Yeah, then a record that I put nothing on.
Yeah.
Did a million times better than that.
So it's like, yeah, you can't really fall in love with the records as an artist.
What that taught you though right there, like, damn, I put all this money behind this record.
It ain't do too much, but record that I just ain't really even had to put that much.
Yeah, that's why I'm looking now for like the organic reactions.
Like, what goes like organically?
That's the only way I'm going to spend money.
I got to put this shit out now, see what's people fucking with, and then push.
Then put a bag behind this one.
Okay, this one is to grabbing the people attention.
Yeah, like even for sake as we put it out.
But at the same time, I was putting out, man, other shit.
That was the one that went.
If I knew like I knew now, I'd have, you know what I mean?
We try to put a bag on it because.
It just went natural.
I think you never know what's going to be the record, though.
You don't.
You just don't know.
This guy helped 50 pick many, man.
50 didn't even like the record at first.
Impossible.
He thought it was too slow tempo.
Now, it's serious, too.
50 told me he thought it was too slow.
Yeah.
Damn.
Where I'm like, crazy.
I thought it was too slow.
I mean, the record was done already.
So, but he just didn't like the record like that.
And I'm like, you're bugging.
And that record is it.
Yeah, that's one of the ones.
Because he like, you know, that's why a lot of people,
who sleep on 50, but I'm like, if we go back G-Unit mixtape, we'll kill everybody.
If that man could talk, all that shit, like, come on.
No, 100%.
It was fresh out of getting shot talking that shit.
Now, the DVDs and the CDs, I used to be so inspired on some shit.
One lesson I always, nobody's ever holding you down if you got the pistol too.
Like, if we all three got the pistol, who's holding who down?
If I ain't got the pistol, yeah, you holding me down because I ain't got it.
I give it up.
Yeah, you're just around.
You're an extra gun.
Everybody got the pistol.
Ain't nobody holding 50 down.
So niggas's like, y'all was holding them down.
How are you holding somebody down that got the pistol too?
I'm gonna keep it a buck.
That's the thing in rap though.
I feel like dudes get around and then they'd be feeling like they might hang around you for
three or whatever it is, three months, three years and feeling their mind like I was protecting
you bro.
If you never did nothing actively to protect me though, like you, like nothing happened?
What the fuck was you?
Optical security?
You don't, like, you know what I mean?
You stood there and looked tough, bro.
I could contract not.
The average guy outside is looking tough right now.
I could have brought him with me for that.
Like, you ain't protect me or push the line for this shit.
And that's why I had to really, that's why I be with all girls too now, man.
Because they're not going to be like Millie's.
I was protecting.
You know what I mean?
Who's me feeling entitled because they came around and, yeah, I was in them spots.
And we went, but I go out every.
night and day and risk my life.
So what happened all the other times
I made it through?
Was you protecting me in spirit then?
You flew the hating on the wind.
I know you go everywhere.
You don't get me fuck.
So how you start dealing with,
we're in the social media era now.
How do you deal with the hate,
the negative comments?
Like we was just talking earlier,
and niggas, that nigga Billy a rat.
He told on his brother.
How do you deal with that shit?
Man, that was the first time.
I didn't see some propaganda.
I said, oh, I got propaganda.
the pages about me.
I'm doing good.
I'm successful.
You know what I mean?
But I think now when I make a post,
if I don't see no hate under the post,
I'm like, oh, this post ain't about to do nothing.
If it's just all-fire emojis,
I'm like chalk this one up.
It's not going to do nothing.
You need the hate because the hate drives the algorithm type shit.
So you want to keep a balance stuff.
You don't just want to just do, some motherfuckers
just jump out there to do shit, the do shit.
You got to look at it like this, guys, right?
Instead of the haters, the people who I hate on me, you and him,
instead of them be in the street
taking lives or selling drugs
they can hate on us
and make 10, 15 grand a month.
We're not mad at you.
Do you think.
That's how you got to look at it.
A person is making money off your likeness
because once you sign that line,
you are public property.
That's what you sign that deal?
Yo, I'm Uncle Murdo.
As soon as you put out his own.
The property, a nigger could say
what he wants to say,
going to make up any story.
But that's why certain people
be scared of it's a thing.
and they won't pop out because they scared to deal with, you know, shit like that.
But you can't have one without the other.
This is life.
Yeah, yeah.
People terrified to post a picture sometimes, you know what I mean?
So it's like, man, I'm putting myself out there.
Like, of course, everybody's not supposed to like this shit.
I wouldn't expect you to like this shit if you haven't lived my life or walked in my
shoes or been through none of my experiences.
Like, what have you been through that qualifies you to like me anyway?
That's how I feel.
You know, as far as when it comes to the music, like, you're not supposed to get it.
It's not for you for the people who don't get it.
You know, that's why it's a different type of motherfuckers in the world.
Definitely.
I think balls are always going to be relevant with guys like you, Jay Cole.
You know what I'm saying?
The list goes on and on.
Banks.
Like, I think bars is going to always be relevant because niggas want to hear bars.
Niggas sometimes it's like microwave music.
Sometimes, niggas, it's out of here because you got to think all the classic music is really.
I'm really old-haired niggas right now.
Niggas that's touring, 50 could do Live Nation, 103 dates.
Jay could do Yankee Stadium, he could do dates.
All the old niggas can still tour.
Eminem can pop out right now and get $10 million just to chill.
Yo, what's up with the Free Ayo shirts?
I get them back popping, man.
That's a fact.
You know why that's so hard too, because that wasn't, that was like,
Eminem's such a rabbi.
That's a damn there a double entendre.
because it was free yo,
but then it could also just be taking as like,
free yo.
Free yo, you better believe you.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Free yo and free yo?
And we got free yo,
because we're pumping this shit out right now.
Listen, and that's why nobody could ever say something bad about Eminem,
not only because of that,
because I feel like he's one of the best MCs of all times.
Of course, that's my goal.
And I feel like genuine in signing with Eminem
and Dr. Dre was the best deal.
Bro, y'all don't understand how that shit felt as a kid
watching that shit
and M's like
M was the only
related like
super relatable rapper to me
because I'm like
he says shit like
you can't miss me
I'm blonde blue
I'm blonde hair
and blue eyes
and my nose is pointing
I'm gonna be he was saying shit
I'm like oh that's me right there
like you know what I'm talking to me
and he was talking that shit for
and he was showing the crazy side of white people
and I was jacking it
and um
you know he was such a lyricist
and then I'm listening to 50
I'm so in tune with the mixtase
but I'm in tune with power of a dollar
I'm in tune with all that shit.
Definitely.
So when them shit's merged,
you know, this was before social media.
You could do a post like how,
Yo, God, he signed his artists with wow money on the thing.
There wasn't nothing to really confirm it.
It was a real rumor.
And then I heard, now, I don't think I won't hit you
because I'm popular.
I got a good.
And I said, oh, he's really, it sounds like it's stamped.
And then it was like levels to knowing this shit was really stamped.
And once it was stamped,
I was like, damn, this is like my favorite rapper
and my favorite rapper going crazy.
And I never seen no shit like that in hip hop except maybe, yeah, another.
I ain't going to lie.
I ain't going to lie because M is a juggernaut, bro.
Em like the Celtics with Bill Russell when they won 11 chips in a row.
Let me tell you, Mel.
I don't know that about that.
I don't have rings.
Yo, my illis experience in life, the tours I've been on, like,
because the book will come soon, y'all.
It's going to be amazing.
Look, this is my life, like, being on an anger management tour with.
him in his prime.
It's crazy.
50 in his prime.
It's crazy.
Not arenas.
Stadium.
Crazy.
Lion Stadium, this stadium, like Detroit Stadium.
Like, that was a movie.
20 tour buses.
Wait, so when y'all did that,
Get Rich a Dodd Trian was out.
Yeah, get rich and that time.
This shit was full flash.
This shit was full flash.
Like the, um, I've been patiently waiting for it.
That was out at the time.
Everything was out.
Oh, now that tour was a movie.
Anger Management Tour was crazy with Eminem, bro.
Mad Tour Buses.
Women.
It was no arena.
It was stadiums.
Sick.
I remember fucking, was it, did half fall through it?
I remember the, you know, the stadiums, this was, stadiums arenas is crazy.
The stage was so big.
I think, I think Havoc, they was performing in Detroit Stadium.
And I say it was crazy.
You know how I got the Drop Box?
Yeah.
That nigga motherfucker.
See, my life flies through the, the Drop Paper Drop.
Boom, nigger fell through that.
Yo, where that nigga go?
Where that nigga go?
He fell in the shit, the box.
The drop.
You know, they be telling you to watch that.
That tour right there was the illest tour in my life to be on tour.
For my lifetime.
Where did I go?
You know, Eminem's like, Eminem's like, Eminem moved like the president.
Like, nigger, the Eminem won tacos.
That shit going to 10 different niggas.
Eminem one tacos.
You was there.
You was there when he laid the, um.
That nigga moved like the president.
You was there when he laid all the shady records was 80 seconds away from the top.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to understand.
My experiences, that's why people would be like, yo.
Why he talk about these niggas?
Because this shit, for me, fuck money, fuck, Jury, fuck all.
Them experience is being in the studio with Dr. Drake for the first time, being in the studio
with M&M for the first time.
Niggas, signing a deal, 50 on the phone.
That's when Cristal was popping.
Cristad was popping.
Million dollars.
I'm like, shit's crazy.
M&M.
And then, niggas, we just had a lot of hate because why, M was white.
So motherfuckers was hating on them.
I'm like, is Mike motherfucker winning?
He had balls.
See, Eminem got married.
I feel like at the time I ain't even hear the hate though.
Like, it was so much motion.
I mean, I didn't hear.
It was hate coming from certain areas, but you think about this.
Social media wasn't around like that anymore.
So I felt like he was just having this fucking way.
I never thought 50 would say, yo, sign with Eminem and Dr. Dre, bro.
Best thing ever, best time of my life.
I'm talking about being on buildings, eating lunch with Jimmy I. Ving to being in the studio,
Hennessy, Mad Bud with Dr. Dre.
I'm like, it's NWA.
I'm like, oh, she's good, Dr. Dre.
Like, niggas, and he's playing in the club.
He's playing P-I-N-P.
You go on the fucking Eminem studio, separate studios,
because Eminem sometimes he'll be in his own zone.
Like, he'd be in his shit, we're in another shit.
And he'd be like, yo, tell 50, somebody intercom in.
Sometimes he'd come here and go over there, you know what I mean?
He'll be in his own zone.
Eminem type of nigger, 20 instruments.
he's a professionalist to the key.
People don't understand.
They just think rapping.
He's a producer too.
Right.
Niggas said,
these are the steps from poltergeist
in Minuteman.
I'm like, you know, those are the steps
from poltergeist and some shit.
Like, how you know what movie
the sounds and the steps is?
It get deeper than,
when you get in a studio with them niggas,
they're like mad scientists.
It ain't no,
yo, put the beat on.
Nah, it's mad thought going into the shit.
Like, every album is like a movie.
That's what Dre and M may get
tried trying a super fucking classic.
I don't know why DJ Self, you're an idiot.
You know, I don't know.
You're cool, but you're an idiot, DJ Self.
Self don't know his hip-hop.
What he do?
He just says some stuff.
Shut up to my God, DJ's.
We're gonna get him on the show.
Yeah, yo, mad at DJ's.
Well, Self said this.
We're gonna get self.
Two things with self.
Two things with self.
Two things with self.
Self said Ice Cube was better than Nas.
Never.
Is he bugging?
I told you.
And he's from Brooklyn.
That's a different eye.
Then he said, look, then he said Ice Cube was better than Biggie.
He's from New York and Brooklyn, so I'm tripping like.
Well, Biggie's, Biggie's the greatest rapper of all time.
Rapper.
I'm not saying rap artists.
To me, Tupac, the best rap artist, but Biggie is the greatest rapper.
You got to think most of Biggie's illest bars, he was saying words that didn't exist.
But it's just flying over your head because it's Chris Must missed us.
Chris must not a word.
the friend. I'm at the opera.
Franklin's on top of the opera.
But he's taking shit.
He's so surgical with his shit.
He just gets big.
Like, Big just get in his voice like an instrument.
Big's the best ever, bro.
Big set a couple of pause lines and niggas
always try to use that. Hold on.
Try to use that against him just for that.
But what I'm saying is when you hear
today's agenda, got the suitcase up in the Central,
go to room 112, tell them,
That is one of the hip-hop's best stories ever told where-n-you-gall-
And you got to understand.
Even in that story, he went into giving you character development like a novel would
on Arizona Ron from Tucson, and he pushed a black Yukon.
And he had to, he didn't told you he's from Arizona.
He pushed a black Yukon.
He played his slow grooves.
He caught a body, slid his throat.
Then he got bag with the toes beat it.
Took it the child, beat it.
Now he fairly undefeated.
He means it.
Nothing to lose tattooed around his gun wounds,
everything to gain embedded in his brain.
And me, I feel the same for this paper you're dying,
especially if my daughter crying.
I know the sign.
You can't physically rap better than big in life.
He is the bar and there's no bar over it to me.
You remember when he had that freestyle?
Remember when he had the freestyle and the beach was changing?
I can't find it nowhere, but that's one of what I'm talking about?
When he just, when he took him about him in the hospital,
I think he had one of Snoops beats on it.
I know what you're talking about.
He did all the West Coast Coast.
Bro, come on, bro.
He did all the West Coast beats over.
Come on, bro.
That's when going to Hot 97 was like going to Hot 97.
That's like when May said bounce to LA, blowing Red Pelay.
Like them, them-
I go a lot.
Mace was dumb nights too.
Mace was one of them.
Mace is very slept on.
Macy's dumb nights.
Burt of Mace.
Nah, he, come on.
Niggas know what Mace do.
Mace, Mace was dumb nice.
That was my favorite.
freestyle. I'm Browns through LA. Little rap, LA. That was, I think it was on Hot 97. That's
classic moments, nigga. That's what every rapper wanted to do. Like, for me, that was,
like, going to flex. Because how you felt when you, your first time up to flex and shit like
that? Like, that was, I was, like, I went to flex the first time. That's when I learned
about, you know how they could, how they call it Freeze the Shooter, like in a basketball game.
Like if you got two foul shots and they'll call the timeout during the second one.
So I got up there and I sat in the lobby for like five hours.
This is when I really kicked it with crack and was able to talk with crack.
And he's telling me mad stories, this shit.
I start forgetting about the shit I'm about the rap.
Like, you know, I start focusing because I'm like, then, it's hip hop history right here.
Then I walk to the door.
I see Corey Guns in there just black and going crazy.
Now I'm like, I've been drinking motherfucking doo-save four hours in the lot.
So now I get in there, you know, Flex ain't too, like, personable sometimes when you talk to him and shit.
Like he's cool, but he's like, you know, a little.
You gotta prove yourself.
Yeah, you gotta prove yourself.
So now I'm like, damn, bro, I'm trying to remember what the fuck.
That was one of the harder joints to get through, but you know how I caught it and that shit did real good for me.
So.
But yeah, I like that shit though.
I missed the adrenaline and rap like, where it's like, yo, go and prove your fucking nice on the spot, you know what I mean?
So niggis that you get busy.
I caught that recently with like the Kassana shit on.
only because it's a live stream.
Like that shit live in front of the world.
If you stumble, it's not no do-over.
Can't make it.
No, this is right here and they're looking at you like.
Flex was live.
You right.
Flex was live, but we used thinking about that.
Yeah.
You had the show and prove right there on the spot.
Yo, listen, bro.
Ain't no edited, none of that.
Listen, my FunkFlex freestyle, if y'all don't know about it.
Go check that up.
We got to pull that up, man.
You know, I'll be slept on,
but that one right there.
That went right there.
That one.
That one right there, even Flex knew what time it was.
Like, I don't know, like I know now they got on the radar, but it seems like on the
radar is more layback and people are playing.
Like there was pressure.
The stakes is high flex.
I know what you're like, with flex, I don't know.
You know, it's like the night before, nigger, you gotta do flex, nigger.
Nigger was think about all his balls.
Yeah, you got lock in.
What the fuck I'm gonna do?
This is flex.
I'm up there with banks, 50 you, these got bars.
But that's missing from the game now.
I gotta be ready.
Like that shit is a different kind of adrenaline rush.
For me, I don't know if on the radar they feel that same adrenaline rush
because it's like niggas is like singing.
Some niggas are just chilling.
And some niggas ain't saying shit on there.
They just pop, pop, pop.
Yeah, now I say it's a different.
So for me, it's a way different adrenaline rush.
I know exactly what I mean.
That energy, that adrenaline rush actually come with like Cosmic Kev, L.A. leakers.
Of course, I have the Cosmic Kev too.
All of those.
That's what I wanted to do when I first got in this shit.
I was like, yo, let me check all the bases.
So just in case anybody got me fucked up, let me go to Sway multiple times.
Let me go to flex.
Sway too.
If you fuck up on sway, if you fuck up on sway.
Swet, I ain't gonna lie.
Sway's one of the realest people ever.
We came in there and we was double booked with the Jonas Brothers was booked for Jonas
brothers, right?
They're the biggest group in the world.
Jonas, yeah.
Back.
They in there, they got the entourage, like 40 person entourage.
They doing some shit with like GQ or some shit.
And Sway was like, yo, I'm about to walk to the bathroom.
Yo, don't move.
We in the hallway waiting and getting into the room.
He's like, yo, don't move.
Don't let none of them move y'all from this spot.
So as soon as Sway spin off some people from Jonas Brothers record label or whatever,
they're like, can y'all watch out because Vogue is about to come through here and do them?
I don't want to cause no problem in the building.
We walked back and shit.
Sway came back.
He saw us.
He said, y'all moved?
We're like, yeah, well, you know, the people,
you know, he spazzed on all of them, bro.
He spazzed on all of them.
He said, yo, don't ever, ever, ever treat one of your guests
more special than my guests in life.
Matter of fact, you don't even be in this building.
Like, yo, sway blacked on them.
And then we just did the interview.
And he was like, see, the Jonas brothers, watch this.
Saluted the Jonas brothers.
He was like, see, they love me.
All these people around, these people is nobody, bro.
Don't have a disrespect hip-hop.
Sway blitzed on the whole.
Shout out the sway.
Sway blitzed on the Jonas Brothers staff faculty
and record label as a motherfucking crew.
Sway blitzed on them.
Look at that.
He held you down on that.
Oh, God.
I fuck with Sway, man.
You know he don't play.
Shut out to Sway.
Sway actually let me, um...
But I ain't going on live.
He let me host his show a couple of times when he don't be there.
He let me host his show for him.
Well, that's a-oh, my God.
Shut out the sway, man.
Merck, this is the thing I was going to say about, um, Hot 97,
because like, you had Jay Z freestyle on there.
Oh, Nyes.
Biggie, like, Mace, like everybody freestyle on there.
So Flex was like, I remember we went up there, son, that shit just be a whole different.
I know what you're saying.
All of them shit is causing, all that.
Like for New York City and the bombs is dropping, nigger.
And you're from here?
That shit is live.
Like he said, it's live.
It ain't no.
And y'all get harsh criticism in New York.
Like, New York is a place where it's like, if you fumble, your block is going to be outside the next day.
Like, sun trash.
Crash, man.
You know what I mean?
No, I remember, because people, you know, they're in New York.
New York been super grimy for a long time.
Like, come on.
Shot 9-7, that's your turn from I-9-7 to shot 9-7.
Mad shootouts.
Mm-hmm.
He was always the wrong team bumping to each other back then.
Shootout.
That's crazy for me now.
Think about how like Manhattan is now and shit.
Niggas, it's a lot of cameras now.
Poo after 9-11 and all that.
all that.
It's a lot of cameras.
Hell yeah, there's numerous shootouts in front of Hot 9.
They moved the building.
But to be at Hot 97, like Summer Jam and all that, even Summer Jam, like, that shit,
it's still what it is.
That's his precious.
I love what they're doing.
But like, I came up, to me, I came up in the hip-hop game in nostalgic times.
That's how I feel.
You did?
Shit was stoutish.
Don't know.
Don't mean.
Like, fifth hat hot or Rob, like, like, it was just a whole thing.
It was just a whole bunch of shit.
Nostalgam's going into the 90s to the early 2000s.
That shit was nostalgic.
You had big pun.
Like I remember when big pun diss 50.
That shit was fired.
Like me was like, damn, that nigga big pun dis you five?
Shit crazy.
Fitting J dis you?
One.
That niggas was hype because we ain't, niggas was something.
Something that worked.
We like, damn, this shit fight for her.
It's fifth of marketing genius.
Yeah, nah, that's legend.
You know what I mean?
Fuck a year.
I'm just gonna start with anybody.
Marty, your shit was like, your shit was going crazy on them DVDs.
That was the first shit, right?
Yeah, he's gonna be talking crazy.
He was talking about the shit with him and French, the, um, you heard me?
You heard me?
Yeah, I'm a French, I was, about, I was talking crazy.
He was like, you, I need to make this, I need, I need this video, man.
Shut out the first DVD ever was crazy back then, man.
I ain't gonna lie.
Listen, rest of piece, Chris Lighty, he gave me a shot, yeah.
Rest of peace, Chris Lighty.
You gotta understand this about Brooklyn, Nick.
Brooklyn niggas gonna make away, dog.
Chris Lydie from Brooklyn?
No, he's from Harlem, I think, Bronx.
The Bronx.
He's from the Bronx.
Yeah, he from the Bronx, BX.
But what I'm saying is, like, murder, murder's a nigga.
Like, I couldn't believe that he was managed by Chris Litey.
Rest in peace.
Like, I don't know how he made that move happen, because Chris Litey had, you know, he had fucking Diddy.
He was hard to get through type of shit.
He had murder.
Murder the ultimate street, niggas, 50 cent.
But like, me, we was there because of fifth.
You kind of was there like, like, making moves.
So how you know.
You did not.
You know, it's crazy because shout out the Mike Lighty, his brother.
Okay.
Shout to Mike Lighty.
That's my boy.
Actually, shout out to Cupmaster C too, man.
Rest in peace, C., man.
No, me, you're with, no.
Oh, you know, Mr. C.
Oh, man.
Cutmaster C.
You're alive, man.
Cutmaster C is alive.
The Knicks' team, my boy.
I keep fucking up with that.
So he was cool with Mike Lighty at the time.
You didn't say Cut Master C's there?
No.
Yeah, I said Cut Master Cee.
And you said rest of peace.
No, but it's Mr.
But I think Mr.
It's rest and peace to me.
I know Mr. C, but I think Mr. C was called Cutmaster C too.
But go ahead.
No, I don't think Mr. C was ever called Cut Master C.
I think the Big Daddy came.
We have to look at listen to do.
We might have to look it up here, yeah, yeah.
Because I know my hip hop.
I don't know how far you go back.
You're kind of young in the 80s.
I don't know.
Yeah, you know Mr. C, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cut Master C, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cut Master C, go ahead, Queen.
But Cut Master C used to be fucking with Mike Lighty,
and I was Chris Lighty's younger brother.
And he used to be always filling my music.
So one time, um, he worked that bad.
worked at Ballator. So he just had me up at Ballader. And I'm just up in there.
This is a little while after the office that got shot up.
Remember Ballet the office that got shut up here? So I'm just walking around in there and
I got my hammer, my gun. I'm just walking around to everybody's office. I'm popping my head
in everybody's office in there. Thumbs up there with Chris Lighty and I got my music.
Comes up in there, pop my hair, yeah, what you do, what you do, what you do?
And you think I'm playing Chris Lighty, God bless. He's just in the, he's standing up in his
office. He's just standing up in the hallway. And he watching me pop in the
now to everybody office, right?
So when I get to almost by way he was at, he was like, yo, man, who's you?
I'm like, oh, yo, my name is murder, man, who are you?
He said, I'm Chris Lighty, man.
This is my office, man.
What are you doing?
So I got some music, man, you know, and I'm just trying to get my music to whoever.
I'm saying, man, trust me, I got that sick, Chris.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, oh, you Chris Lyddy?
Oh, I got that sick, Chris, you hear me?
Yo, I'm just letting everybody in here know I'm that nigger, man.
Word up, I know your office got set up and all that shit.
Yo, I'm a shooter, too, you know what I'm saying?
I sold him my gun.
I'm like, you know, I'm a fish with you, Chris, where all right?
He's like, I'm going to tell you.
You got the music?
He said, yeah, look.
The way you talk, he said, let me tell you something right now, man.
I'm going to listen to your CD.
If I give you a call tomorrow, that means I like your music.
If I don't, I don't want to see you at my office no more.
I was like, I said, well, you're going to call me, you know what I'm saying?
Gave the music in real talk.
He called the next day.
And then from there I was just, I was violated.
And that's how I got the Rock for this lady.
Yeah.
Mike Light, they had the Dream Team.
You had Chris Lady.
Definitely did.
You had Mike Light's out the Bay Lighty too.
Hold on.
That's it teed you up fast.
Like once you got in there.
You know what it was.
With Chris Lighty, it was so easy to, um, the labels and get the meetings and I already
had like a street buzz at this time.
So with Chris Lighty, it was just easy.
It was easy to set up the meetings.
We're going to see Epic this day.
We're going to see this one.
to see this one. The crazy thing about it is at the time, I think Sylvia Rohn was probably,
I forgot who she was with, but she offered us the most money at the time. But we just wanted
so many options, then we wound up doing the deal with Jay-Z with Chris Lattie. But yeah, with him,
he just made it easier. But Chris Lyddy, everything was easier.
And then you gotta think, when you look at Violator, right, you got the Dream Team, you
got Chris Lydie, Mike Lytie, you got Claudine, you got Mona Scott that started love of hip-hop
Shows the Mona.
You got James Cruz.
And then he had a relationship with Leo Cohen, too.
Like, it was like Leo Cohen was like his plug.
To him and Leo had a real dope relationship.
Look, and James Cruz in Mandeese's wife, she was the Yandy.
Yandy was there.
Yeah, they had the crazy roster.
What's the short black dude?
My man, I'm bugger right now.
I don't know.
My man, he was there.
They just had a dream team over there.
They had L over there.
They had Kay Slade.
They had 50.
They had Diddy.
Like, they was like 300 before 300.
You know what I'm saying?
Rest of the piece of Chris Lighty.
And then Mike Lighty was on the road with us.
Like, that shit was dope going over there.
They had freeway and all them signed to them.
Oh, yeah.
They had every.
Yo, he had everybody.
You all remember.
Buster rhymes.
Yeah, busted.
Yeah, they had everybody.
They had everybody signed over there.
So it used to be crazy just going to the office.
Y'all used to, like, in them days, I still with it.
I still go with an outfit two, three days,
especially if I didn't get my burn out of it.
But was y'all able to, y'all didn't have to change up clothes
as much back in the day, fair to say?
Because it wasn't a picture every day, right?
No social media, see, nowadays shit, fucked up.
That's now, shit.
If you had a good day outside,
your shit is finished after that, right?
Yeah, yeah, it's done.
I was wondering about that,
like, if y'all could save on clothes back in the day a little bit,
like, get the same throwback jersey off at three, four, five shows.
Yeah, you can remix a little bit more back in the days.
Nowadays, everything on social media.
on social media. Why got this bum-ass
nigga wearing that shit again? That's like you get a
Louis jacket, you wear one show
you can't pop out the next one.
He's got this. He can't afford another
one or he can't do this. It's like this.
On that microscope, man.
Some niggas buy them chrome hearts and wear them shit for two
weeks. No, I'll do that though. Listen, the
Chromeheart jeans is 10 bands.
I'm wearing them shit for 10 years.
10 men, I'm wearing my shit for two weeks,
man. Ten bands for the chrome.
I'm wearing them shit for 10 years.
That's why. That clothes is crazy because
you'll meet your real rich friends
and they got sketches in the Apple Watch on.
Let's be serious, man.
They got a million dollar kitchen.
I don't met people in there.
Yeah, but sometimes I'll be seeing that shit online
and people be like, yo, real rich people
dress like this, that, and the third
and I'll be like, yeah, but real rich people
don't got no saws neither.
So.
Bro, we met Tillman, that nigga had an Apple Watch on.
That man has, we own, Astros,
Astros, Astros, Austin Rockets.
Houston Rockets.
The Astros, 900, 900 restaurants.
That man had an Apple Watch on.
suit. He got a suit, though.
That's cool. But if you got
sketches or... Oh, yeah, sketches
with a suit. If you got the hookah sneakers on
and all that, I know he really rich in the hair.
Go to Hamptons, motherfucker, got the hookah sneakers on.
The hookah sneakers is great. People that's really rich
don't care about material things.
So hanging in the suburbs, you be looking at shit.
They care about houses and all that.
Oh, yeah. They'll have a million-dollar kitchen.
I know what you mean material.
You know, they have house money that's a kitchen.
Or a motherfucker going to say, you, I'm doing my
backyard, I'm gonna spend 300, 400.
Like, they don't really, they'll buy, you know, nice suits and shit, but
nigger we have the hooker sneakers on with the Apple Watch.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Yeah, they're not buying the APs and the Cuban links and they ain't doing all that.
No, watch is a good investment.
Watchers, to me.
It's always a good investment, but-
Chain the good investment if-
Goal is up right now.
This is how, look, I'm gonna tell you all why.
It brings more money.
But this is for me, this is why I say for me, it's back and
for chain a good investment sometimes.
Watch, I think a little better.
Because, like, when you really buy jewelry, think about it.
It's an investment that niggas want to kill you for.
Yeah, but if you were rapper, sometimes that shit, that shit gets you a lot of business as a rapper.
Like, you walk into the spot and you got that shit on your neck.
Sometimes people, it immediately cuts out.
I know how he's in the airport, murder.
Trust me.
You ain't know.
Might have.
I don't know.
For me, I don't know.
I love jewelry.
I know what you mean.
It's investments.
But I don't know.
I'm more of like, I like the watches now.
Like I think, like to watch.
You want your grown businessman shit.
No, the watch.
The watch doesn't lose any value though.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is I could get a chain that might lose 50,000.
Let's say I get a chain for 100,000 and lose 50,000 in value.
But then I'd have made connections that earned me 500,000.
So my shit really made me stand out.
Now I'm talking to these people who's just fascinated.
Oh, you're a rapper.
Oh, for real.
Man, I fuck around bust down a deal with them later for,
whatever it be so I didn't specifically get the you know um the my my chain didn't ascend to
whatever amount of money that the watch might of but but the perception compensated for my
shit you better you know what I do believe for rappers we still need shit we had 50 sin we had Eminem
dr. Drake so like my face was the Jew yeah face card but that's the same no yeah you know that's how it is
like we we came up kind of I told my man like one of the best shit's about being a rapper too and and I
I don't have like the, you around the juggernauts, you know what I'm saying?
But it's like one of the best experience about being a rap is getting free shit, bro.
I love free shit.
I love free food.
I don't give a fuck.
I like when I go to a restaurant, they're like, don't worry about it.
Even if the shit was $17 to me, that'd be boosting my shit.
Like, I like free clothes, all that shit, all that shit.
I like getting in the club free.
All that shit.
I like everything in life, ladies and gentlemen.
Because you like that.
I love free shit.
We get cut the line, Mona Lisa.
But when the niggas trying to talk to you,
why you're taking the piss in the bathroom of the airport,
that shit gets ridiculous.
So catch 22s.
Now, I'm just saying it.
Murch, am I lying?
But you got to be in the,
you got to go to the, you're in all them shit with the guest loungers
and you could just go to the private doors and shit like that.
We always first class.
We might walk to the gate.
We don't care.
We don't get boogey all the time.
I see, I'll be taking you as boozy now, yeah?
I'm taking you as like, when I think of a gay, like, you see he like, now fuck the jewelry.
No, people take that as me being like boozy.
It's not.
It's just what I'm saying is to me, the best experiences is flying the world.
Like, me is in Morocco.
Because we had four seasons, it was just built for the Olympics.
She was an experience, a vibe.
We got my man, he called him Moroccan mafia.
We had the good bud.
The food was hitting.
They had smoked duck for breakfast.
There, Paris.
Look, Paris, look.
Look, because I'm going to tell you, I don't want fame.
Look, I'll tell you all the time, murder, what I'd say?
I don't want fame like 50.
Hold on, no.
Yo, how many, like, smoke duck, they got you unanimous with that on the end.
How many times, like, that's just like a repeat meal, like McDonald's to me?
It's just, nah, it's not that.
Me and murder was in Morocco.
Yo, he's a one person famous for Smoke Duck.
Like, you boosted that shit revenue.
Me and murder was, we, we was at the four seasons, brand new.
New shit.
Morocco.
His man's grown the bud.
They had that shit for breakfast.
I'm like, that's where the smoke duck shit come from.
But what I'm saying is like, see, 50 M&M fame, they can't really go outside.
They're going to get, ah, ah, man, they can't do nothing.
I like my fame because we get to go out, go see the Mona Lisa.
Yeah, yeah, murder.
We're going to get a couple of those.
We're good.
Smoking, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
I'm good with my fame because I want to still.
I don't want to be in the hotel all day.
You're going to want to go to the Louis store shopping.
You're going to want to hit, go to see the Mona Lisa.
Security new niggas.
One time we went in the hotel, we was in Norway or somewhere.
Motherfucker came playing Rod Diggs and Uncle Mird.
I couldn't believe it.
Nick, I said.
Where was we at?
Belgium.
We was in Denmark.
We was in Denmark.
Nigger came through white boy, Rod Diggs.
Mert.
I'm like, you know, my dad.
Yeah, that's me and Rod Diggs.
Just us coming outside to hit a hit him.
to join on the Humble.
That's hard.
We be touching the fans.
The niggas love us overseas.
We be out.
That's the best blessing in this rap shit.
Like traveling, like I always-
Getting to meet people around the world that fuck with your shit.
Yeah, they love that shit be different.
And it'd be, look, it'd be a nigger that, like, what I like about overseas is they don't let hip-hop die.
Like America, oh, you know, we die with you.
When you go out there, you catch- It's still up, yeah.
Look, you catch J-Rood of Damager.
You'll catch new edition.
You'll catch fucking K-R-S-1.
Oh, we love him.
Like, they don't.
They don't let hip hop die.
Like they don't give a fucking 80s, 90s.
So it'd be different out there.
Like motherfuckers, the niggas that got five on it, them niggas get bred.
I got five on it.
Yeah, shout out yuckmower, that's my dog.
Five on it, that record.
Them niggas tore.
Forever.
Forever.
That's a big weed record right there.
It should be different.
Them niggas being the Swiss Alps doing shows and all that.
Like I got five on it, that shit is still getting show money.
Facts.
of shit on them and be like, you don't know what that is in America.
Let them niggas go to Germany and all that shit.
Finland, niggas be torn getting a bag.
That's what I like about overseas and being out there because they love hip hop.
I told you, I ran into J-Rood of Damager, nigger.
You don't want that buck, what?
Remember that shit?
Niggers be running into them niggas.
P.R. 1, you running into them, niggas.
That's crazy.
That's lit though.
Because it's not microwave music.
See, that's the whole thing.
Yeah.
That guy is forever.
It's 20 years later.
50 still doing shows.
2023, live nation, 100 in three shows.
Said, I got rich off, get Richard Dott trying 20 years later.
Niggas be like, where's his money now?
Niggas be like, niggas be like, where's his music now?
His music now, nigger just did a hundred, you know, a live nation paid him.
There's only a handful of niggers that can do a live nation tour.
It's not, you know what I'm saying?
It's a handful of niggas.
Niggas ain't getting that kind of bag like that, bro.
Not even me.
I ain't getting that, man.
Live Nation.
That shit is a handful of people.
Cardi B right now.
Cardi B tour on fire.
Shut after Cardi B.
Try to get to that level and get a Live Nation tour.
It's not just an easy thing.
Live Nation, yeah, yeah.
You think getting known overseas,
you'd be surprised who they know and don't know
when you get to, like, Columbia and D.R. and shit like that.
Because a lot of people, there's a lot of rappers.
I'd be like, so-and-so.
They'd be like, nope, no.
Snoop dog.
Yeah, Snoop.
Yeah, they know Snoop.
They know Snoop.
They know Eminem.
They know 50, they know Eminem.
That's what I be trying to tell.
They know Eminem.
That Eminem shit went so far for me that I'll be in a random place like that and a waiter
or something.
I'd be like, Eminem like, you know what I mean?
They're like fucking yep.
Yeah.
That's what's the shit.
That's what bug my head out was just to come home out of jail and
And feel blessed, man.
Lived in Battery Park, come out my building.
See the Statue of Liberty.
We come from nothing, nigga.
So for me, I always was humble.
And then, nigger, picture you being in a party with Jim Carrey.
Nigger, this nigga, you know, this nigga from the movies and shit.
He dancing behind you, you laughing.
Wesley Snipes, the Kardashians.
Like, I don't met everybody.
Did shit.
Yeah, except for Michael Jackson.
Who kid?
Shout to who kid, who kid met?
And Tony Brove made Michael Jackson.
That's tough.
He's Michael Jackson.
Yeah, I never met Michael Jackson.
I beat a Mike, man.
I never met Mandela.
I know 50 and I met Mandela.
Too many niggas were fitted going to Mandela Crib.
You know, Violator was like, too many niggers.
That's a Mandela.
But I got to go to a cell and all that.
It's like 30 niggas.
Everybody was feeling, Nelson Mandela.
Niggas was hype.
Word.
50 and them got a chance to meet him.
But I didn't get a chance.
It was like, nah, too many niggas.
But you got to go to a cell, so that was cool.
Yeah, got to a cell and all that.
See, those experiences you can never take from you.
I live three lifetimes already.
Nah, you were out of travel.
I live three lives already, bro.
That's how I feel like the rap shit is, too,
because when my shit started even kicking off in, like, 2021,
from 2021 to 2025,
I feel like each year was like seven years,
like dog years kind of like, but in the good way.
You know what I mean?
Like, because I'm, I can't,
it gets to the point you can't remember what you did like five days ago.
I'd be telling, bro, I'd be like, anything after 72 hours?
I don't remember that shit,
because this should be a blur sometimes.
You know how I'd be like.
Moving it Grover, man.
Yeah, moving.
and grooving, you can't even remember shit.
But then at the end of that 365,
I'd be having to go through my camera rolling.
I'd be like, damn, I did wild shit.
And I've been for like three, four, five years.
It's been the best years of my life ever.
Real shit.
Oh, God.
Real shit.
Bless, y'all.
And I reach the level that I want to, but I'm happy, like, we're, you know.
You know, I enjoy the journey.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Enjoy the journey, man.
We definitely want to hear this Al-Bial project.
Hopefully you get a lead to.
Leaf Ward verse. I hope he come home soon.
Listen, I believe.
I ain't going to lie.
Y'all three.
Y'all three on the project?
Man, that, like, wrist takers, man.
I believe so much in them stamping, like,
Leafwood is the best lyricist in America under 30 years old by far.
Like, and I put whatever on it.
I support that.
I put whatever on it.
Anybody under 30, he'll smoke your fucking boots.
And he really don't try.
He just go to the studio, drop shit, casual, and it goes.
because it's that pure.
If you don't know about Leaf Ward,
tuning to my boy music.
Free leave, he's going to be home soon.
Like I said, Murder put me on the Leaf Ward.
He put me on the Albi-Bi before he came home.
But that's, I ain't going to lie.
That's fire that y'all, like, tapped in with music.
Because a lot of, like, a lot of the older generation,
sometimes they tap out of music.
I never wanted to do that because they say after 30,
it's a scientific study that 90% of people
stop listening to music and just go with what they know.
I'm telling you, that's because y'all, you know what I mean?
Y'all really into the music.
A lot of people would just say,
all these 30 years,
I'm going to just go with whatever songs
I acquired over now,
and they kind of block off new music.
But there's still people out there
rapping their ass off to this day,
making amazing music.
I'm up on your shit.
That's why I'm telling you to get on the beach.
Hell yeah.
I know what I'm talking that shit out there.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what we got to ask them now?
We got two things to ask them.
What's there?
We do some things when we say
who our artists of the week is,
my artist of the week,
New York City, I gotta give it up to Cardi B
because she's on a tour of Laub Nation.
Shout out to Cardi B.
Shut out to Cardi B.
Who's your artist of the week right now?
My artist of the week?
Besides, if you ain't bumping your own seat.
What it mean? Like, what's the category of it?
It don't matter.
If you ain't bumping your own shit,
who you're just riding around bumping?
If you ain't listening to your own shit,
who you bumping right now?
Who you fuck with right now?
I ain't going to lie.
I was just listening to tour tape.
No tour.
He's from Philly.
T-O-U-R-E.
Now, you put me on to him.
I never heard of him.
He's talking crazy.
He started this shit.
He said, dudes want to know why everybody can't go.
Same reason is two seats and a Lambo.
That was his first two bars, I said.
All right, yeah, let me tap up with that.
So, Tor, he's from Philly.
The best rap is pound for power.
I feel like come out of Philly, like, as a whole.
Like, New York might got 10 of the greatest amazing people,
but Philly got 200 super amazing solid.
Now, they come on.
Rappers.
But, yeah.
You know that for the battle.
In Philly.
They can talk their shit to.
Little bucks, another one I've been listening to.
And then I listen to No Cap all day.
That's somebody, no cap and Rilo Rodriguez.
I would really tell East Coast people to, um, to bend your mind to go listen to their shit
because they got a lot of double triple on Tandras.
They just harmonizing it.
So it might throw you off.
The auto tune might throw you for East Coast.
But when you listen to it, you're going to be saying, hold on.
He just said that.
Like, and they're incredible artists.
So my artists of the week, I'm going to say, yeah, I'll say no cap.
You said a couple of people.
I said four, right?
I'm thinking on who I was listening to.
That's what we wanted.
That's good.
My eyes right now I'm not going to even hold you.
It's Poussixty.
Poussixty?
Yeah, I'm not going to.
Poussi's my artist.
Are you switched it up there?
You switched it?
Pouss is my artist of the week, man.
Free Bucciesty.
Free Poo Cisty.
I'm Poo Cisci St out right now.
I got the person.
I'm not going to hold you.
I've been working out because I got a gym in my house.
Yeah.
I just been working out to Poo Cucystisty.
I'm not gonna hold this.
I'm pool sci-sy-ty.
Free pool shy-ty, man.
FD.O. Free pool shy-stysty.
All right, F-D-O baby.
You're ready to go.
On my Al-Bi-L tape, I got a, we just recorded like two nights ago.
The night this shit happened, I said something, something.
My young and waived a 30.
Free Poo-Shicey, these record labels dirty.
I mean, like, I got with their bars off.
Yeah.
Nobody tried to get it first.
We need this one, baby-out.
You know, try to get it first.
We need this one.
Al-Bial.
I remember that.
I remember that.
And it's just to show love to the artist in live time.
That's what it is.
I ain't trying to capitalize just how my mind works.
Definitely, man.
That's right.
That's right.
But you already know we have my boy in the building new project out now.
Boost it.
It's the real report.
You know the vibes.
Yes, sir.
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It's like a part of me.
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200 days till football's back,
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