Joe and Jada - The Real Report - N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN on 10 years of Drink Champs, remembering Big Pun, Ice Cube vs Biggie, & removing Prodigy off of LA LA track

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN sit down with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda on The Real Report to break down Big Pun, 50 Cent, Nas, Prodigy, Capone-N-Noreaga, Drink Champs, and New York hip-hop history. N.O.R.E. speaks on working with Big Pun, why Pun was one of the best people he ever met, Pun asking him to connect with DJ Whoo Kid, Pun being the first person he saw receive a wire transfer, and why Capital Punishment is a classic. He also explains why 50 Cent was always solid with him, how 50 became one of the first people to give him time for an interview, and how their relationship stayed strong after executive pushback. N.O.R.E. also talks about getting in the studio with Nas, releasing his first solo album after The War Report, meeting Capone, seeing The Notorious B.I.G. at Hot 97, acting in Paid In Full, getting banned from Black clubs in New York, The Tunnel era, Chris Lighty, Hip-Hop police, breaking Pharrell, going Latin with his music, and the exclusive “LA LA” story involving Prodigy being taken off the record. DJ EFN explains how Drink Champs started, how the name came together, why the DJ-and-rapper format worked, and how the show helped change hip-hop podcasting over 10 years. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But then if you listen to a different version of it, his version is on it. His verses are. I'm about saying, I was listening to his privacy version, but I did. I told you. I'll take it over. Okay.

This is now my show. Okay, let's go. We'll be here with you. Let's go. I put y'all on it anyway. I'll put you on in the anywhere. We were all down, man. He didn't get stabbed.

Right. Shut the fuck the . Okay. Proven. Role is. You can't movies win. Oh! Brimble!

Bro! Got my video. I was a guy. I would get a one. That's out. I don't know. We're three champs in this. I predicted this, man.

I said, man. And I can't wait for you to see the Burmast Club interview because, like, I really know. Like, what I said was, if I had a chance to sign 50, or sign Yeo right now, I would pick Yale. And people are probably looking at me,

like, what the fuck did you just say? The thing is, I know 50 Mike back come once every six months. But I know the Yale, like loyalty and all that and your personality. And I would like you to see it. I can't wait for you to see it. Wow, you believed in me, man. Make some voice for you to see it.

Whoa, whoa. You believe me. You believe me and I highly appreciate it, but. Yes. But why did you pick Memphis Bleak over me? Oh, shit. God damn. Was it Jay Z?

Yeah, no, he was waiting to get you with that, but I'm not going to lie. No, I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. Why? That was the next one. Why? I was doing millions of views at this point. No, no, no, no.

On every platform, I worked. It wasn't like I sat still and just waited for what the next move 50 you were doing. I worked for that. I was supposed to be signed to you, yo. Yeah, what you don't know, what you don't know was. Because that was a play that was done before. But me and you, I was trying, but I knew you wanted that bag up front. I know you wanted that, you wanted that M.

You wanted that. Just keep it real. I looked at it. This is how I looked at it. I was like, when you told me, yo, I'll do the audio with you and do the visual with him. I was like, no, no, I never said that. That's what I felt like, bam. That's what it said to me.

So I was like, how I don't get the audio? And by the way, you called me too. I called you all right. I'm not getting a normal. Let me say. No, this is what I said. I said, let's get the audio done. And then we're going to shop because at the time,

you know, the yala was there and the yala was, you know, beefing with the yala. So the yala, so I said, hey, I got that, but it was clearing up. So then I could have got you the television deal. I just was presenting the audio at first. And he, you know, slav slime is crazy. You know what I said?

Trust me, I know. You ain't got to tell me. Trust me, I know. And back to this guy. See, hey, go look. Look, you're on another topic already. That's our crazy. You know what I'm crazy.

You know what I went to Texas and I had an argument with Scarface. That's crazy. You used to say in earlier. And he was like, yo. That's our dog, too. Yeah, slimmed dog too. Yeah, a lot of people was on your side. I can't front.

What? But like you, but like you, tell them what you said earlier. What? What you said? What's my man murder back over there? He said, then he don't know the feeling. You wasn't in New York when Biggie was dropping. The argument was you, the way you posed the question and the way you tried to flip it was all fucked up.

You asked me my top five and you didn't like it to let you decide to argue who was better. That wasn't the original question. You told me who was your top five? I told you my top five. You said, no, Biggie. I'm just, what the fucking, what you told me? You don't like the ice cute. Ain't like your top of time.

No, we got to keep it real. Any way you go in the world, people hate New York niggas. Nah, man. I love it. I embrace it. You know, on the first show I ever did. Yeah. And Corrupt said, he said on the show, keep it real.

He was like, New York rap beef ain't real. I'm like, well, my mom's crib got shot 17 times. What did you? Awful. Talking about it. You forgot about that. New York beef never get real. I'm like, nigger.

In Vegas. In Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, nigger, let's keep it real. Back in the days, you know, as a rumor, Snoop got shot at.

I don't know how real it is, but niggas was saying, when Snoop came with the new disin New York, L-A, L-A, shit. Yeah, I was around. You was around. Of course. Shit, I was in L-A-L-A.

That's what I'm saying. I'm the opposite. Because, Nori, a lot of people got to remember you for the music, too. Yeah, a lot of people don't. I just see, I'll be happy out, I'm saluting you not too long. I love that, man. Like, niggas don't know Norley.

Oh, man, please. Podcast, rock solid. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, we go to squash it with you and me. That name is a little pause, and I don't got no issue. What, I'll be out? No, no, no, with bleak.

Rock solid, pause. Oh, come on. And that was there, and I, and I don't got the issue with bleak. I don't got an issue with me. But all I'm saying is rock solid is pause, pause. You know what I'm saying? When you think about it? I never thought of it.

Yeah, now you think about it. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. You put it in your head. You just saying, I'm just saying. And I'm not, I don't got no beef with them. Right, right. Right, right. Listen.

Good hair. You dealt with 50 back in the days. A lot of people. What was the studio? No, no, no, chair, chair, chair, chair, check. Hold on, what was the studio? Don't say I dealt with 50. No.

Listen, I'm the worst motherfucker-fitting 50 ever had in his life. Make some noise. All right. Go dance. It was terrible. To stand by that, the yala at that time. It was risky. And he sat there and you know what?

He's never went at me. He's never. like he's always been rocked he's always been solid with me got you all point out and um I said this earlier you know what's crazy was a 50 cent interview

first off he's the first person that we sat down with and he said I seen him and I had a whole speech like to let me get a lighter y'all I seen him and I was like yo bro And he was like tomorrow, four o'clock. And I was like, what the fuck? It's the first time a person gave me the time and the location.

So I was like, all right, cool. And I went. And I'll be honest with you. To this day, it's probably one of my most biggest compliments. Because 50 jumped out the car and everybody said, yo, 50 don't be by himself. And we filmed in Little Haiti at the time. And we was in Little Haiti.

Yeah. And we had the, you know, he just, we just, we just, he felt we had that, you know, and he went like this. And it was so dope, man, he went like this. He told his security or his team, whoever he was with, like a fallback. And he just came. And he came dolo, bro. And you know, like 50.

He pounded the whole team. He hung out with us. He drank the Branson. Now we drank the Branson. And, uh, like, like, Like, man, that was so dope. Take us back. Take us back.

Because I was talking to light earlier, right? He was like, yo, yeah, you got to remember, like a lot of artists don't do what artists was doing back in the days. Like, Norrie and them, they all were secluded. Was it? Bear Mountain. Tone-a-Mountain, you know that. Bear Mountain. So it was 50, Norrie.

Damn. It was nature. Look at you. Look at ya. Look at ya. I know. I know my hip-hop. Yeah.

I didn't know about this. So back then, trackmasters, you fly. Nah, I was there too, nature, Norrie, everybody. You know, at the time, Norrie was like the hottest shit in the street. You know what I'm saying? CNN. When you think about CNN War Report, classic album, Chelsea Capult. You know what I mean?

Yeah, like, so like, yeah, that's a, I got beat. What? That's why I tell him Queens wins again for the Brooklyn Nets. Shut the fuck on, man. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But it didn't. I love you, people.

It didn't look. But look, Queens wins again. It's like, no. So then it's like, didn't you come with the solo album and then it's like, yo, you got body in the trunk. You got, you broke Farrell. Niggas ain't know who Farrell was, let's keep it real. Shout to Farrell.

He's doing Louis Vuitton and all that shit. But like you broke a lot of friends and family package. Yeah. God, damn. Yeah, yeah. Come on. Damn. Come on.

You know what's crazy. That's crazy. And I'd be like, hey, what's up, my brother? I can't lower my standards to act for it. Tim, I think he should be giving that to you. But let me break this down. No, because no, when you think about your solo album, nigga, that was the biggest record on there.

But let me, let me break that down. Let me break that down, what you just said. I got to actually big up to trackmasters. Trackmasters said, you motherfuckers can't get focused in New York. And they had an idea of bringing me, Nause, nature, 50 cent, wall to Bearsville. I don't know if you have. if what I'm talking about.

Bearsville is exactly what it sounds like. Nika, you go outside. This beers outside at night time. Like, nigga, I went to throw the garbage out, and there was a beard. I was like, holy shit. I'd rather get shot at. How was it a bear?

I'd rather, like, I'd rather, like, I'd rather, like, I'd rather, like, I'd know how to maneuver through that. I don't know how to run from a fucking bear. I don't know how to run from a fucking duck. These were ducts. I was like, they were hitting a, and 50, let me, let me address that. And 50 was like, yo, bro, you know, I need a record with a solid Queens nigger. And I was like, all right, I got you.

And I did two records. And I didn't do one. I did two records. So I'm the first person to ever feature on a 50-cent record. And then, and then. I looked like a genius, but I was a genius. This wasn't a mistake. I knew the next coming, like, pause.

You know what I'm saying? I knew, I knew, and me and him have always been cool since. Like, you know what I'm saying? We've been cool since, and, you know what I mean? Like, I'm probably like the only person, like, that can balance that type of action. Did you get backlash from that? Absolutely. No, absolutely.

Everybody, everybody. But you know what's fucked up? It wasn't from the hood. Of course not. The hood was fucking like that. I'm about to, of course not the hood. The hood was fucking that time. That's what's fucked up about this.

Like, I always wanted to tell this story. I always wanted to say this. It really wasn't the hood. It was the executives that was like, yo, why are you standing next to him? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because of how to rub, right?

Because of that record. Yeah. It's just because everything that was going on around in my business. Everything that was around in that. Yeah, it was a lot going on. And then. So, so, so. So, so.

So now when you look at it and he's one of the biggest artists in the world. Like a lot of people don't know that, but a lot of people do know that. The people that do know that matters to me. You know what I'm saying? That matters to me because, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean?

No, I think because I think people now look at you as a podcaster. But for the younger generation, it's like, yo, how you throw to your bars with body in the trunk with Nas? This is Nas. Like, what's the feeling? You're about to go in the studio with Nas. Damn. Great question

You know what I mean? Body in the trunk It's a classic record But you're about to step in the studio With Nas And you did your thing on that one You know what I already had that record And you was like

I got to get Nas on this record Oh y'all in the studio together with that No we had I love my life We had We had We had so many different records And Nas like I want to appreciate it

And by the way I like your watch I want to appreciate that Because Nas said He said Yo we have so many records is let's do a concept record. And we went out and Jungle was there.

And Jungle kept saying, it's a body. It's a body. And I was like, yo, what are you doing? And I was like, yo, you know what? I went back to Nas. We went in the studio. It was in the hit factory, 57, not the 54th one. And I said, Nas, let's take your brother concept.

And the thing, got you. And then we went in. And we recorded that record in 20 minutes. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, and right now, they got a video right now. AI did AI? I thought it was me, bro. That's how good AI is right now.

It was crazy. I looked at this shit. I was like, did I do a video? And I didn't remember? I tell you all the time. That AI shit is so. Yeah. Because after the war report, the solo came right after.

Came right after that. Capone got locked up, obviously. Shout out to Capone. Yeah, shout out to Capone. He should have been here as well. That's a bad. But Capone got locked up and I was lost. I was lost.

And then I was supposed to sign the trackmasters. Right. I thought you did sign with them. Nope. Oh, shit. No, they kind of executive reduced it with jungle. And, oh, my bad. Oh, my bad.

And then penalty records stepped up, Big up to Neil Levine. I owe him a lot. And we went to Beersville. Right. A lot of artists need to do that. Going seclusion. Think about being in the studio with Norrie.

I'm crazy that you know that. 50. Nature. That's like, come on. I'm going to be honest. That's crazy. That's crazy. I didn't know that.

So 50 told you this? I just knew. I knew about Beersville. I was around. around Columbia days. I remember being in the studio one time. I like the barb- Reminded you, right?

Till I have to like the barbba. Yeah, like the ballb. And the whole thing is, like, when you look at like a group like Mobb Deep, that's how we kind of looked at like y'all, when y'all came. Right, right. Because the CNN War Report, come on, bro. That was like, the streets was loving that. Like, they ate that shit up.

What's that one? Platinum? Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, no, no, we went gold. But, um, the N-R-E was my first platinum album. Okay. Um. Yeah. And, uh...

Yeah, drink chance. Come on. Make sure. Hey. No, I used my first platinum album, but, like, I had, I had, I had, like, uh, I had, I had that experience, you know, I'm saying? I had that experience of being around Nause and, you know, being around, you know, that Queen's energy and track masters.

I want to big up track masters. You know what I mean? Like, like, they had the foresight and then, uh... Yeah, Tonapoke. They were working with J-Lo, All-Kelly. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm 50 was on the J-Lo.

The J-D record. But, yeah, man, that time was so beautiful. That's the best year of my life, 1998. Oh, man, yeah. That's why when niggas tell me the Knicks went to the finals in 1999, I don't remember that. I'm like this, my life must have been that crazy. You know what it is?

I don't even remember. We was doing good, but we were underdogs at that time. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. And Ice Cube is still, oh, then Biggie Small. According to this guy. That's only according to this guy right here.

And I didn't do it. Those words, man. Ice keeping is not better than Biggie, though. We can get into it. Scarface, I had an argument with Scarface. He said ice cube is better, though. Slim Thug said it, but I told Slim Thug he hate New York. That episode will come out.

I'm one of them. I'm one of them. I'm one of them. I'm one of them. He has a hate New York, but he was sounding like he hated New York. I said it in the video. Because New York is the most hated. And then we're G-Units, so we even more hated in the industry.

I just want y'all to know. We were murder unit. We were murder before murder. I remember murder unit. A unit before the unit. I remember murder unit. I'm gladly dead, y'all. Get the fuck.

I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I remember the murder unit. Wasn't any of the rappers. They were just like killers. They were some stupid shit. They were just, they were some stupid shit. Yeah, they were.

Come on, digger. You all remember that? But, you know, to tell you the truth, man, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, for me to, like, see that, like, like, for years later, like, immediately, like, I was the first person, like, like I said, to work with 50. I know I was, man around earlier. You're the first person for a lot of stuff like Soldier Boy. Yeah, yeah, I am. I am.

Even with this podcast shit, really? Yeah, podcast shit. How did y'all even start this shit? Like, what did you even do this shit? He said his best year was 98. We met in 98. Oh, look at that. That's crazy.

Yeah, that was the next thing dude in Miami. He came to Miami. Because I remember doing them than one of y'allie. that first episodes, it was like... Yeah, yeah, in the hotel in Miami. That was a freestyle. You know, we out of here. Hotel, Miami.

You know, with me, no. That's a fact. That's a fact. You were a fact, roughly, man. That's a fact. You were, you were in the first year, for sure. Like, you were definitely in the first year. You were definitely in the first year.

Both y'all, both y'all. But I, I knew your algorithms, bro. Like, I knew it. Like, when... No, you believed in me, man. When you did it, I was like, I was like, wait a minute. This motherfucker of those didn't even know, like, like, like, um, you have a, um, you have a,

charisma, you have a certain thing. Appreciate it. Both of y'all. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you, you, you, you, you too, and like, I saw it. No, but this is the biggest thing. But I was doing so, let me tell you. He loved this shit. I was doing so hard. Of course, that's my guy. That's my brother, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was, I was going so hard to make sure that I could do it, but I just knew.

And then even the, even the fact that y'all call it the real report, I was just like, I love this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love this shit because, um, right now hip hop is controlling media. We're controlling our own media. Back in the days, you should do the source magazine. The source magazine would have to come out three months later. So Les Wolves I had beef with Uncle Murder, then me and you squashed it.

But I said something about you three months earlier, and then me and you squashed it. But the shit come out now. You're like, yo, what the fuck? So right now we're controlling it. I'm really, really, really proud of what you're doing. Thank you. And I want to salute y'all, you know what I'm saying?

Thank you, man. Definitely. Because this shit is dope, like, and at the end of the day, man, like, I love the fact that we get money, man. Of course. Yeah, that's get money. Yeah, that's after getting money. Drink 10, screw it for us, man.

Yo, I got to ask you. Because I got to get, I want to keep it to the music with you. Let's go. Let's go. How is it working in the studio with pun, man? That was my favorite thing. All right. I wish EFN had.

Yeah, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. Pund. No, you made a hat as you could fuck me up. Yeah, yeah. Can I get another beer? I'll ask somebody that's been my own brother

and then another medello. We need some more medellos. More medellos. Rest of piece, fun, man. Fun was, I believe pun was probably one of the best people I ever met in life.

Right. Not rapper. You know how you say that's my best rapper friend? Right. Like, I believe pun was probably one of the best people I ever met.

Like, he would go to Lefrat. This is old school left rack. This is not, this is not, you know. He would go to Lefrak. He would go to Queens Bridge. Wherever I was at, he would just pull up on me. And to this day, I have no rapper that would do that. Like, I have no rapper friends that will come see me.

Hun would be everywhere, and he would do it. And we just had, like, a great relationship. And I remember, I'm getting a little deep on y'all. But I remember... Can I keep it real with you, though? Yeah. This is the real port. Let's go.

I know your public is over there. No, no. You know, we don't care about that shit. Did he really pop on Jay? Like, hit him in the head with the bottle? I have no idea about that. I was just always wondering. I have no idea.

That was just a story. It was. No, because I remember who kids said he. You were just getting deep. Go ahead. No, but hold on. I remember who kids. No, this is why I always look pun crazy for that.

You heard that. Wait, he definitely. Well, Jay, that was a rumor back in the days. We heard it in Miami. Right. Yeah, it was a rumor back in the days. I always, I always. Now look, hold on, hold on.

And who kid. He kidnapped who kid. He kidnapped who kid. I always feel guilty about that because pun... You said who kid up? Yeah, I think I lined him up. See, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

Now, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Talk about it. You know, I ain't know that. You know that. You know, I'm just, I ain't the kids. You know, who kids? You know, who kids say he kidnapped them. Queens niggas locked up the Queens.

I'm just saying, yo, look. I'm not sure. Yeah, but finish this story. How do that happened? What happened? One asked me, um, yo, can you hook me up with, who kid? He never said what was the problem. He never said nothing.

Wow. I think I line. I think I did connect them. Look at this. And I regretted that shit forever. Like, I was like, oh, my God. Yo, y'all Bronx things are crazy. Like, and, um, well, who could, like, uh, so what was I going back to?

Let me go back to a pun story. You don't find how that was you got. Pun's funeral. They had gave, like, everybody, like, two minutes, three minutes to look at the casket. I stood there like 15 minutes. I couldn't hold myself. And full flex, rest in peace, full flex.

Joe's family. And he grabbed me and he said to me, you know, he's in peace now. Right. And it hurt me. Because I never seen

pun hurt. Like I only seemed him happy. And then I realized that, you know, pun must have been sick and I just didn't see it like I was too young I was too young to see it like we sat there like pun was the first person I ever seen

get a wire not a wire a wire like we was in Vegas we blew our whole shit like I'm not even a gambler I don't even gamble but we was in Vegas and we gambled and Pum was like

we blew like 50 and Pum was like we're gonna I'm gonna get Steve Rifkin to send us a hundred and I was like What? And, and... Punheaded like that? That's crazy.

This is 98, 97? Like, and Steve Ripkin remembers this to this day. Steve Ripkin was like, man, the... Y' guys told me y'all was pulled over in Vegas. We lied like a motherfucker. That's funny. But this is the first time I heard of a wire.

You understand what I'm saying? So, getting back to what you're saying. No, but... He's a wire. A wire, yeah. You know, only so American meat. Remember American meat? Pass the wire.

Pass the wire. So I was like, and pun, so to get back to your thing, pun was probably one of the best people I ever met in my life. But he sent the $100,000? He sent $100,000. $50 to me and $50 to him. I didn't even know my bank info. Like, I was like, I had to call like 15 people like,

oh, okay, what's my bank of America? I'm trying to get this money sent now. Yeah, and do we blew that? Man, pun, blue, that. Like, we were like, we were bozos. Like, we used to call Fat Joe, we used to call Fat Joe the fun police because Fat Joe, when we got together, he'd be like, y'all shouldn't be together. And y'all shouldn't be doing what y'all doing, you know what I mean? But, yeah, that's one of the best people out of the middle. I feel like capital punishment was a classic. Yeah, capital

punishment is classic. Because when you think about it, yeah. Pund was coming with rapper capability that was amazing. He had hit records for the ladies. And he was a fat nigga. that had the swag. Yes, yes. So he was like a big or a heavy D. Is that a pause, heavy D? All right. That's not a pause.

So Rapper. We go, we go to salute. I told him everything can't be a pause. I don't know. I don't think heavy D could be a ball. Yeah, heavy D. Because he passed away. Yeah, I got you.

The fat boys was nice back in the days, but they really wasn't dresses. They just had the beaters and all that on. Yes. But heavy D was, you know, fat nigga getting fly first. Mm-hmm. Word. Hicka Mold.

Hey! Hey! Hey! But I just want to reiterate this. This is my favorite part of drink champs is when they argued, bro. Did you see the passion? I saved it. Yes.

Now, let me tell you something. People hit me after that. And they were like, yo, it looks serious. Like, y'all threw hands after it. I was like, no, I said, he's Haitian. I'm Cuban. We Caribbean people. people. We talk like that.

Like, you see, now my, my, my, my, my, my, when I just try to figure out where does all of Biggie hate come from? There's not Biggie hate. There's no Biggie hate. That's a figuring of your imagination. I like it. You know, why you're starting it up right now? So you still think Ice Cube is better than Biggie?

Huh? You still think Ice Cube is better than Biggie. The fact is Biggie died. That's what people understand. But that's what I said. But like, all right, when Biggie and Tupac had beef, right? We know it was a terrible thing. Rest of peace to both of them.

Obviously. But, like, in hip hop, we love competition. Let's keep it real. Right now, new shit, Lado and Cardi B. We loving that shit. Yo, was you talking about Cardi? And what's I think about the Jay Z and drinking? I like to know, what I think about the Jay Z freestyle?

What I think about that? I'm going to let him go for it. I want to know what you think about that? We were just happy to see Jay even mention anything. Fuck all that just happy to see Jay shit. No, that's real. What you thought about the freestyle, the bars that he was directed? Was it fire?

Was it mid? What did you like? I thought it was cool. Like, it was cool. But people going now, the blogs, the videos, the podcasts, like this, cipher everything, and they make it bigger than what it is. I thought it was just cool for me, personally. I feel like, I feel like it was better than cool.

You know why? Because I feel like when there's no drama and hip hop, it's boring. Let's just keep it real. So you just want drama. No, it's not even that. It's like, fuck it. No, no, let me give you an example. Drake, right?

When I look at careers, Drake helped everybody. At the end of the day, he helped Kendrick. Of course. He helped Rick Rooks. Officer, Officer Ricky. He helped him. Oh, man. Come on, man.

What? Cajot. Come on man, what? Officer Ricky. We ain't on the real reporter. He helped Officer Ricky. He helped Officer Ricky. He helped Officer Ricky.

He helped him. He helped him. He was Aiden Rosswood Street before. That's hard. That was a hard line. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. Hold on.

He helped him. He helped him. He helped him to me, DJ Callet. He helped Cal it. He did. And then it's like with the Kendrick shit, it was like the industry shit. Once they felt like, oh, shit, he losing.

Everybody turned their back. Right. It's like the drug dealer when he goes broke. Hold on. Yeah. niggas turn their back. You out of bricks? I don't know that nigga no more. everybody dissed them.

But you know Drake is going, yo, Drake is going to always come back with some bars. So when he diss everybody, niggas is tapped in the Iceman, we can't even get to the second album because we like the competition.

We like Nyes v. Jay. Don't you didn't like that? Yeah. Right? We like Kendrick versus Drake. Yeah. We like 50 versus Jaru. Don't say you don't like it.

Yeah. No, yeah, yeah. I like your man. No, that's your boy. I see what you're going with this. We like it. You like it. You like it.

Now look, you like, right now, do you like the Nicky versus, not, not Nicky, Cardi versus Lotto thing? You know what? This is the first time I've ever even heard. Yeah, Cardi was on the phone. I also wanted to know what you thought about, what you thought about, what you thought of because I, I like, I love the Jay freestyle because I didn't, I didn't, I knew every, I, I felt like I knew the whole set, like what was going to happen, and then I felt like he fooled all of us,

and he did that, and he brung hip-hop back. So, and it's crazy because. He actually told us the week before, like, let's not guard each other. That's what I was just about to get into that. He was just, me and Ye was talking about that. He was just saying, like, no more drama. Yeah, hip hop is not good. He said he didn't be talking about certain things.

And then he came out and started talking about certain things. And I thought, I thought. And I get it. We know in Brooklyn, Jay. Trust me. I get it. I get it. He's a good type of low blows, Paul.

He was saying all the type of, you're like, wow. He took a death. Like, whoa. So you don't feel like, yeah. like in the battle when now he didn't take low bows about the baby in the baby seat? Yeah. Uh, yeah, of course. Everybody took low bows.

Here's how clever Jay is, right? They kept telling me that he went at, yay, and I couldn't, I couldn't see it. I didn't realize it was the first bar that he said. He's no maniac. There was sometimes one word was dissing somebody. Watch out saying he act. In my presence type of shit. In my presence.

Facts. And I could not, like, it took me a whole week to, catch that. I was like, because I was like, he didn't go ahead. Yeah, at all. But I do think, I do think it's, it's a certain thing in hip-hop where we're competitive. How one week you could say, because this is where I believe, once you're a billion in, everybody just say yes to what you say. I need a billion dollars, so everybody just be like, yes, yeah, yo, yes, yeah, right? Me too, let's go. Everybody. I mean, right? Because you say don't take low blows, but in the song, he took some low blows.

I believe, I believe, uh, this is helping hip hop. I believe that. It is. But you're just saying that. I agree. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying I feel like he,

what do we say? We said we felt like it was going to be on a record coming. Because we want, we want to see that in battle. Like, it's, it don't got to go to violence all the time, right? Yeah. All I'm saying is the good battle, like, before Drake and, um, before Drake and Kendrick, they were going low. Everything felt like the game was like,

female dominated. Like, because you got now, think about it, you got more female rappers now than we did back in the day back. So there's a lot of women that's just listening to I-QA idiots, to Lotto, to Cardi, to all the women rappers. And if you got a hit, the women will mess with it to, the future records, or Drake or whatever it is now. But it's split. So even with the girl beef, it's like, that goes viral. Like right now, look, I'm going to give you a perfect example. Cardi on the phone. She don't know she's being recorded. She whaling. Bitch is pussy. Lotto. Right? So Lado just came out with a record getting that Cardi.

And they asked on radio. They was like, was that about Carding? She said, yeah, it's because, you know what she said on? And I told Murder, I was like, You're putting me on. Look, once you're on the phone and we friends and I can say, you'll murder you.

Murder's pussy. And he's not there. We're not friends no more. Okay. So I guess Cardi tried to send out Birkin because we talk about everything here. We don't get. That's what makes us the real report.

We don't care. We don't care. She sent up Birkin and then she had the disc record saying, like, I got the Irman's So it'd be a lot of shit competition-wise just with the women, too, like Nicky going at people and the Cardys and the McGahn and the Stalions, niggins is checking that shit too because it's competitionals like KRS won and MC Shared back in the day. This Queens.

But we still loved it. I seen you in Europe. What was we had? It was in Nice. I think we was a niece. Probably was. Oh, I'm on that. Yeah, that's what I'm on that time.

So you're saying you don't know about all the drama that'd be going on. But you was just... You're not fully in tune with all the drama. Merk. Yo, how was it acting and paid a full, man? Classic album, I know 50's doing that over right now. I love it. You should get up with them too.

I love it. But how would, you was, come on, bro. I killed you was that, you was that, 12 seconds. 12 seconds. 12 seconds. I didn't know. Everybody did.

See like that count. I was starting in the movie. Like that man. It was like you ever think of acting again? Because that was like a, that 12 seconds was like, that 12 seconds was like, really some little shit. Absolutely. You got to tell you.

that's some of the horror movie you did. Oh, chill. Hold on. I want to know what the set. Pay the Fool is. All right. So, all right. I want to know what that paid a full.

Paid and fall. It was like, yeah. I walked to the set, and they give me a script, and I say, I hate this script. What? I did not want to listen to anything that they said. Everything was like,

it was like corny shit. Why did you do that? No, so I threw the shit away. I said, I got you. But I'm a do. So now you got to remember. You got to remember. this is in the 80s.

So I can't say slang. I can't say modern slang. So that's the reason why you heard me at the end. I say water. So hold on. What paid the food came out again? When y'all shot that? That was like 90. That was like 2000.

2000. 2000. What you're saying? What's you saying based on the movie on the 80s? He couldn't talk about certain things. He couldn't talk about certain things. So I kept, so when I went there,

they informed me like not, do not say son do not say done because that's that's that's like that back yeah yeah okay yeah got you yeah so i'm sitting there and i did it in one take i did the whole shit i was just like all right cool they didn't even do a safety yeah they didn't do a safety but i'm saying that the uh the version that you see that was one take right and um i circled around i put it in the Gucci outfit and i just do your line so the people know because that was hell no I don't even remember. Nigger cut the niggins shit, man.

It was telling you, nigga split this whole shit open up and it. It was like the ultimate. Yeah, yeah. It was like the ultimate. Yo, go, yo, Riko's cut the naked shit. You want me to get her some queen shit? You want me to really get on some queen shit?

I don't. You know what guy? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but you didn't lie. You ain't lie. You ain't lie. You know where that line is from? Where?

Here's real shit. out pole came to 40 projects. I was dear. Oh, the queen? There's no other 40. No, I was surprised.

I know. This is my first time hearing this. Listen, I think there's a 40s in Far Rockaway, too, by the way. Thank you, fellas. But that's, thank you, gentlemen.

That's still queen. It still doesn't matter. There's a 40 projects in Far Rockaway. That's still Queen. There's a 40 projects in Far Rockaway. You guys, keep it real. That's still Queens. You could be in Far Rockaway, too,

when you say 40 projects. Okay. Shelter 40. That's, I'm not, you know. Okay. Well. Thank you. Who ever knew that from Far Rock. My Uncle Wiles, from 107 and got Brewer.

And I went to go see my Uncle Wiles. Yeah, I think I remember Wives. Yes, Uncle Wives. This is my Uncle Wives. And this was the time that Harlem had a drought. Now, a lot of people don't understand. I know this is like sounds crazy. But Zeldavlanco moved the Queens.

Get out of here. Yeah. No, this is documented. The Blanco moved the Queens. Oh, you didn't know this? Jackson Heights One million percent And we know her son

In Miami So he's One million percent She moved to Queens And she supplied The whole She, I don't know How the hell

She went to Southside Instead of going Like to left rag Queensbridge Right right there And I was out there In 40 projects And Alpo had drove through

On He did the Willie So So when I say I say You know The poor We can, you know, Spanish nigga that did the Willie, like, I did all that.

You're talking about some shit that you really. I actually saw, I actually saw in real life. That's great. And, um, so when you, now go look at that shit. Now when you go look at that shit, you're going to be like, this nigga Norrie's L. Because, yeah, like, this was a real life experience. You really seeing Alpo and Fort. I've never heard of that.

I see Alpoor and 40 projects. I see, I see, I see, shit, man, like, yeah, basically all that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a real queen. You know, I went to church in Basley. Oh, what? I used to go to church in Basley, bro. Like, I'm a real official, queens.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is real, this is real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, shit. And so that's how that movie came about. When you got with Capone? Capone from Queensbridge. Oh, he's from Queensburg. Yeah, Capone, one million percent.

So how y'all get up? Bridge. You know what's crazy? It's a dude named Sherman and the Worm. The infamous Sherman de Worm, he still locked up. Yeah, yeah, yep. Shermner Worm told me, you're a mommy of my friend, Kayam.

What? Kayam is Capone. Oh, okay. And we years later met up in D.F.I. I got two people from D.F.I. With me, Ching Ving and McBow and MacBow. You know what I'm saying? We was in Harlem Valley, and we linked.

Talked to MacMurter later. That's MacMurter. Like, he still walked. I'm gonna talk in the yard. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna, you walk in the yard. I can tell. When I go some women, I know what I'm like, nah, he walked me.

You guys. Talk later, murder. You know what I'm talking to the phone with gangis. Oh, okay, facts. Okay, facts. I just came home. I was just talking to. Fags.

Free G. He'd be home a little bit. He's coming home with him. I tell everybody. That's a fact. That's a fact. So, that's how. So, Sherman the Worm? He told me about Pone and he told Pone about me.

Pohn about me. So when we actually connected, it was a, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was in church. It's a person called Billy Wade in Harlem Valley. And we got together and Pohn didn't rhyme at that time. I rhymed. Okay. And I came home and Capone had a deal with Faith Newman. You know who Faith Newman is? No. Well, that's the person who signed 50 cent and the person who signed Nas. Oh, right. Oh, look at Columbia. At Columbia Records. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. You know, I'm So, and then Pome said, yeah, yo, man, I want to wait for my friend. And then we linked up coming home and Capone and no react. But I will say this.

We went to Hot 97. We freestyled. And Big was there. What? And Big asked us to both rhyme. And Capone rhymed. And I was so scared. You froze up in front of big, man.

up in front of Big. Yeah, my phone's up in front of Big. Oh, shit. Yeah, please up in front of the Ice Cube, you know. Too, too, man. But didn't Big one sign Pong? No, I ain't gonna lie. I thought, I thought it was.

You froze them in front of Big. Yo, listen, listen. I thought it was over for me. Because Big loved Capone, and I just was standing there like a bozo. Look at that. And Big was like, he exchanged numbers with Paul. Little Seas was driving.

That's when Little Seas crippled me. This is that, this is that week. Look at that little Seas crippled. He had a cane and everything. And we were like, ah, shit. No, not we. I were like, oh, shit. It's over for me.

You know what I got asked. You know what I got asked you. You know what I got asked me. It's me and murder. Murder always say, yo, is it worse now or before, right? Right? And we don't condone no violence. But now this camera.

and stuff. Oh, I hate it. It was worse back then. Really, Yale was just, wasn't no cameras, right? Explain the people. It wasn't on social media. Like I just said, it wasn't no social media. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Wasn't no camera social media, right? Explain the people. Oh, we used to pound niggas out. Hold on, hold on. Facts, tell them. You used to pound niggas out. Fats. That's not, no, no, no, no, no.

Pound niggas out is not app. Nah, no, no. But hold on. But hold on it. Listen. No, that's not, I think that's their cold. How old niggas out? You said, cool.

You said something. You said something back in the days that I always wanted to ask you, that I was going to take your chill. You said Brooklyn used to run the tunnel. And I just want to. That's what I was about to ask you. I want to break this news to you. Hold on.

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How it was Queens niggers coming through You got because Queens was running shit You had of course You Capone and Noriega You had motherfucking Mawb Dube You're a show of Mad Queens

Prodigies, right? You had, you had, look, think about it. These niggas is crazy. No, no, no, let's keep it real. This is my battle worst Queens or Brooklyn, just on some real shit. I don't know. We're going to get back to you with Bigel.

That's our brother borough. That's our brother borough. Now think about it, but think about it. You have Mobb D. Yeah. You had CNN war report coming in Capone Noriega. Yep. You had Nas.

You had tragedy, Gaddafi. That's right. You had, them niggas was all, I'm gonna say they all was dropping at the same time, bro. At that point, it was like, yo, nah, Queensbridge, left, rack, Ravenswood. Yeah. It was like, y'all kind of had the game. Storia. West side, yeah.

South side. And then y'all all had records with now, so it was like, come on. Tragedy, Gaddafi. I can't lie to you. I'm gonna be honest with you. It's a classic. That was a classic time of hip-hop. You could go and actually check this.

I promise you, ain't nobody. had a run in the tunnel like we did. That's what I was going to ask you. I don't give a fuck. How was the tunnel? Because. Nigga, we ran that shit. Nigger, raises everywhere.

Nigger, like, like, we had the security. The security was scared of us. What was the first thing? Where's the first time when the war report came out? Brooke. You got to turn. Or was it? I ain't a lot.

They was down with us. Brooklyn niggins was going shopping at the tunnel. That's what I'm saying. The other niggins was going shopping at the tunnel. At the other side. At the other side. Whatever side, whatever you want to say. Brooklyn niggas was going shopping at the tunnel.

I know, you know, I know how we go. That's my God DG. You know what I'm going shopping, baby. You know the vibe. Hold on. Look, look. Brooklyn niggas was going shopping at the tunnel. That's what I'm saying.

No, but hold on. Think about it. That's the only club in New York City where they said, no more chains, no more watches, no nothing, bro. Listen, I love it. This is how much I had the tunnel. This is what I understand.

People don't understand. The tunnel was the arena. For all you, Y, ends, it was the arena. For rappers, come on. Hold on, let's say. What's that? Go ahead. Go ahead.

Let's tell you how much I fucked up the tunnel at one point. I was the number one rapper. Platinum. No, this is what. Out the gate. I'm not supposed to be in front and start in trouble. It's not supposed to be me, right? So I'm platinum.

I do it. I do everything. That's the reason why I was discovered reggae don't. It's because I was banned for every black club in New York City. This is a fact. All right? Church it. All right, cool. So pun tells me, pun tells me, come to the tunnel.

I don't have a license. I just got a license two years ago, one year ago. Pun is platinum now. Pun is, pun is on fire. So pun says to me, yo, come to the tunnel. I'm like, your pun, I'm fucking banned. He's like, I'm platinum. No one's banned around me. Rest and peace, the pun. I'm like, that's right. That's right. That's right. I'm like, listen, Slime, you don't understand.

I'm banned. I'm banned, bad. And he's like, okay. And so I pull up. This is how much I had the tunnel on a freeze. I pull up. I got the hoodie on. I got the COVID mask before COVID mask.

Because I'm trying to just be disguised. I had to push-shik-stie before push-ishis-ty. Right? So I'm free-poosh-ish-ty. I'm walking through. I'm walking through. Gucci dropped the charges. You know what happens?

Every police officer that was undercover and they looked at like us. The niggas had a cartier frames. The niggas had on chains. They had on Jesus pieces and they just pulled out. And it was like, yo, you are bad. And you know what pun turned?

They looked at me. What the fuck you be doing? I said, I told you this, my nigga. Like, I told you. I'm like, yeah. I told you. I told you. And I'm just letting you know, like, at that time,

But because I don't want to, because I don't want to diffuse your statement, because we have Brooklyn niggas with us. Big up to Tony Dread. Shout out to Brooklyn. Big up to Tony Dread. We were so deep. And I said Brooklyn niggas used to run in time. Yes, yes, yes.

And everyone hit me and was like, you got to check Uncle Murdo. I'm like, oh, my God. Get the fuck out of here. This is how deep we used to be. Okay. My man Tony Dred, flat bush nigger. He beat up his own cousin. Because that's how deep we wore.

Like, if you didn't have a murder unit jersey on, you didn't have a thugged out. But you said, we said Flatbush, right? Flatbush is that, right? Come on, brother. Where's Brooklyn? Yes. This is what I'm saying. No, no, I'm thinking you up.

I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm going to give him some history, right? Okay. Some of 50 rules on the road is cousin Naz. Wow. A lot of people don't understand that because when 50 was on the road with Niles, because I went on the Nostradamus

Yes. One time I was on the bus when I see Niles with books, I was bugging. I'm like, I heard you say that. You said it on your kids. I thought it was big blunts and all that. Jungle and then was the wild niggas, Noges was reading books and all that. It was different. It was a different vibe.

You know what I mean? The only thing was missing was violins and all that. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But it's nice. Okay. So on that tour, I realized like, 50 said like he went to a couple of shows and you know, Queensbridge and Ravenswoods, sometimes left racked niggas.

Them niggas ain't getting along. So Fifth said he's seen niggas, niggas, niggas fight their own niggas. Like he'll have niggas from this side and niggas from this side, and that's what he created the rule on the road not fighting each other. That's what a lot of people don't know, because fifth was, like we was around, we was around y'all,

looking up to y'all, you, Nause, who, that's a my room, who? That's a my room. I didn't say, I can say a laugh. Rest of the piece of Chris Lighting, he had the secret source. You know what? Chris Lighty had the secret source. That's real.

I think 50 was the smartest because Chris Lighty was, he wasn't no punk, but it was like, No, he's not a-50 always looked at it like, you can't just go for a straight gangsters management. Like a lot of artists, y'all'm going to hire this guy because he's a gangster. You don't know nothing about the business. But Chris will fight. Yes. And, because he has something, he ran the tunnel at young age. He ran the tunnel, yeah.

That's what I'm saying? He snuck a lot of guns in for me. You better believe it. One million percent. That's what I'm saying. He ran the tunnel at what, 18, 19, 20? Yeah. Yeah, one million percent.

1 million percent. So I always remember like fifth picked of right management with Chris. Like it was like, come on. Everybody was over there. You, K. Slay, Ruston piece K Slay Slay. Buster. Buster. Rhy.

Missy. Missy. Missy. Yes, yes. L was over there. Yes. Yes. That was, that was, you know, us and you, you was managed by Chris Lydide.

Oh, yeah. Murder, too. I'm married to Chris Lydide as well. I still haven't got over that. And I still haven't got over the fact that people say that he killed himself. Yeah, I can't believe. I can't believe that, man. Like, I can't believe it.

I can't co-sign it. I pulled up to the house that day. The buster was there that day. We was all there. Yeah, I can't. I can't. I can't believe that. And, you know, this is something me and 50 had off a combo.

And I asked him one day. Like, you know, I believe when we were, when I asked him, I was like, you believe that? And he was like, hell no. And then we said it. on camera on drink champs. They had some things set up there. They're supposed to go start making money.

It was all type of tour. We were supposed to be set up fifth time. We were not. We was about to go run. I asked him. I asked him the same thing. Yeah. I can't.

No, but when you really, when you rest in peace, Chris Lighty, Mike Lighty, shout to Mike Layting. Jonathan Lighty. Yeah, Johnston Lighty. Claudey, Joseph. That's right. That's still my people.

Lori. Lori. Lori. I used to call it. Of Lori, this is Norrie. You know what else? Who else was over there? I'm buddy.

James Cruz? James Cruz? Nah, I don't got beef with you. Okay. Beef for James Cruz. Okay. When we had beef with shit, he told that nigga go get the knobs.

James Cruz, go get the knobs. I thought he got the car. I thought he got the carers. I thought he got screwdrivers. Nah, he said, go get the knobs. Okay, okay. That was the Divorba war, some shit like that.

They always put James Cruz through the ring. I was just, always cool with him. He's a cool dude, man. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna be flipped on him one time in Interscope. Where he told him? I like, I want to hear it. Let's go.

I don't want to repeat what you're saying. No, repeat. Fuck this. It's the real report. You can't, what? Okay. Okay. What's gonna mean the Interscope, right?

So I'm there with 50. You know what I'm saying? It's just me, 50, and I think James Cruz. Some shit happened. Fifth got tight, called him with crackhead. And what's crazy as he came out, like, this is the first time I see somebody like, light a bogey and inascope. Like, he lit a bogey.

In the interscope. In Interscope. In Interscope hallway. Like, yo, 50's tripping again. So I'm just like, come on. I know all the stories, bro. I've been around. Yeah.

Classic hip hop moments, bro. Yes, yes. Fat Joe told me I was at the Vibe Awards. And I didn't need... Pat Joe, he keeps telling him. He's like, yo, man. You don't remember that? No.

Yo, it was... It was... Jay Z told me I was with him in Croatia. I don't remember. I told you. It was a crazy night. I had a run, man. That's crazy.

I had to run, guys. How did y'all start, like, doing the podcast? And what made you start even doing this whole podcast shit, boy? And both of y'all doing the TV? together. We made you, we started, he moved after the reggaeton shit. He thought he was in rap purgatory. Oh, shit.

He said the English market turned their back on him. Oh, they wasn't fucking. Yeah. He moved to Miami. Okay. And, you know, we already had that relationship. Dancans don't die. They moved to Miami.

Yeah, I definitely did. The first, I know R.E show in Miami, I did the show. Yeah. And then when Pohn got out, they hired, they got my crew, and we did the Pone home show in Miami. Shit, I got to take a piss. Hold on. I'm sorry. Pee Pee stage.

Right right in quarter. Right here? Yeah, right here. Oh shit. All right, cool. Keep on because I can hear. I got good ears. We were connected.

So when he moved to Miami, he was, he says he calls it rap purgatory. He said the industry turned their back on him. So he came, he knew I was a hip hop. I wasn't really, I wasn't fucking with the regato. I'm a Latino dude, but the way I looked at regentone, I felt like as a Spanish dude, we was trying to fight for our respect to hip hop. That when the, when I went to Puerto Rico myself early on and I heard it, I felt like they was like doing like, like Jamaican patchwa and Spanish. I was like, I don't know, man.

I don't know, but we over here just trying to prove ourselves over here. Y'all gonna bring this and fuck us up. You know, that's the way I felt about it. Got you. I feel different now. So when he told me, I said, I don't know about this. Oh, so you felt like it was different now because now, you know, Latin music is so big now. You know what I mean?

It evolved. Yeah, yeah. So you look like it was in purgatory, but like... He thought he was in rap purgatory. No, no, I understand. But like, when you look at all this like Pitbull and Flood. And Pitt's my homie from Macon and Flood. To me, Pitbull, we did shows in them overseas.

And to me, they was big artists. Like, I think some people, I'd rather have the big record that everybody likes. Right, right, right. I know, it's funny that he was on it early. You see how fast he takes. Yeah, I don't even know. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes. So look. All right, go ahead, yeah. Going to the point that back then when you started going to the lat market, it's so crazy, it's like you almost see the future. Look, look. Look, I'm going to give you look. I see the future.

Ferrell? Yes, I've seen the future. 50. Yeah. Right? Damn, keep going. Podcast. You know.

Like this. Right? I like when you're going with this. Right? Look, look. No, look. Think about it, though. Not real shit.

No, real shit. Then the Latin music, because I remember when you went to that, but you got some platinum records doing that. No, no, no. Now, look, fast forward now. Okay. You got it.

Podcast. The podcast. I'm talking about when you started doing a Latin music, though. When you started doing a Latin music, you was early on it. You said it was rap purgatory for him. He said that. He felt like that.

But, meanwhile, his record is probably playing with Pitbull. Flo Rida. Because when I see them overseas and see them rock shows, I'm like, damn, I want a record like that. Fuck on a gangster shit. Yeah.

I need one of those. Floorada. Big bags. I'm like, oh shit. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so crazy that you was on that early, but you felt like it was perpetory for you. But you sold some platinum and gold records.

No, no, no, no. And you might have been too early. Yeah, I might have been too early. I want to say, and it's going to sound a little crazy it was almost cheating right

what I mean by that is like at that time to sell gold it was 50,000 in in the Latin market and this gold platinum was 100,000

so I was gold and platinum like this I didn't even until I dropped this shit and then I'm looking like I'm damn there 10 million.

Like, because I did, oh, my, he got the blueprint. Yeah. Daddy Yankee, what record did you do? So, so, so, so, so let me, let me just break this down for you. And, um, I don't think any NY artists have done this but me. And if I'm wrong, I will, I will say I'm wrong. Correct them, you know, social media. Yes, yes, I'm wrong.

NYC has seven to 14 radio stations. I was on every one of them. I was on KTU, White Stations. I was on La Mega Sapega. La Mega Sapeca. Big Mado. Big Mado's here, Big Madoes here. Come on, Big Mado.

He's on your Mekado. Listen, we were on, like, I kid you not. If you turned on the radio, period. I was on there. Look at that. And the record was bigger to me, man. Like, I can't lie to you. the record, like I said, every single radio station in New York,

including the sports channel, I was on there because this was a, this was a Latino record. But it was a global record. It was so happy. Oh, they didn't grow up. I remember I went out one time. If you feel like rabbits felt like you were cheap because we all thought you was just black. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I'm Puerto Rican, my name. Yeah. Let's get this right. Like, we thought here it's just black. Yeah. He's probably, man. No, I'll be honest with you.

This is real talk. When one report came out, we just thought you was black. That's why. Nobody thought he was for the race. That's why. But that's not fair because that means people wasn't listening because my first rhyme, I say, Jose Luis got you got you. Bowling guns and tons.

That's not fair. You talk about some drug dealer sound like a connect. That's like a connect. That's true. You know, I want a black list of that? You're talking about the plug. You know, what are you mean? Back then you're right.

I was showing them. though. I was like, I got a whole I thought you was talking about the plug when you said that line. Yeah, yeah. I was. But even me and Nas, we have a record music, make these thugs come down. His verse is... I go, Jose Luis Gauta.

Go to guns, Frank Sinatra, Amigo shot you on the scene with binocula. Fahado, by a moan, me and Ramon. Like, Fahado is a... But we're thinking you're talking to the niggas uptown with the birth. I agree, yeah. I agree. I agree.

I agree. That's why we like you know. I agree. That's what made niggas, look. That's what they made do a little different back there. Look, niggas on the block. That's what niggis on the block was like, yo, he's talking that plug tour.

Oh, okay. Before GZ and them. Okay, okay. All right, you giving me that? Like when you go to Harlem, give me that, yeah. That's a lot. Yeah.

That's a lot. Yeah. Look, let's keep it real. Back in the days, everybody went to Harlem to go re-up, go the Spanish. Yeah, because y'all didn't know that. Right? Gazel de Blanco was in fucking Jackson Heights.

That's right down the fucking block from us, you know that. Everybody was, everybody was in the Harlem. Everybody went to Harlem over here. But Camillo. Well, shout out the DJ. Yeah, shout out the DJ. So when you talk in Spanish shit, we like, what the fuck? You talk about the plug and all that.

Yeah, I thought I thought I was up front with it. And then, I tell you the truth. I tell you the truth. Listen, listen, I tell you the truth. Nobody knew you was Puerto Rican at that time. No, I was saying that in every round, I was saying, I'm Puerto Rican. But let me just tell you something. At one point, I couldn't get shows, bro.

You know why? We were known as the most notorious foul niggas in New York City. Before y'all. Just relax. Just relax. Just relax. Just relax. She said, relax.

You got to relax. Because I knew he was about to say something. I didn't say nothing. What? What? Listen, what? We were banned, right? And if I didn't have a show where people,

Was there hip hop police back then? We just didn't know it. You keep throwing me out of use. Nigger, we invented the hip hop police. You know what you forgot, Hot 97? 9-8. Come on, let's. Hello!

Hello? Who the fuck you think banged out in Hot 97? Hello? I don't know. I don't know whoever from Hot 97 booked that session, Fox and Kim. You was an idiot. You don't know what you was doing. We had about the radio at the same time.

It actually wasn't Foxy and Kim. Big up to junior mafia. Y'all just happened to bring Foxy and Kim. Foxy with you. No, no. Oh, no, that was just cool with Foxy

at the time. They were just blown. We had that record. That's why. We had Brooklyn back. You had Brooklyn back.

That's right. But cause of that, that invented the hip hop police because. Well, you came out of a song called bang, bang, bang, right after.

No, no, that was before it. No, that was after. Oh, that was after, bro. Or that hit the record. No, that was before. Find the record. That's what caused it.

That's what caused it. That's what. That's what it. That's what caused. That made the record bigger after that. It did. And the other day, and the other day. Y'all turned shot nine.

We was in, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was in Brooklyn the other day. Tell me how funny radio was back then. Going on a hot night and seven, you never know you're going to run into it. That's a fat. No, no, no, no, listen. By the way, by the way, by the way, by the way,

let's just be clear. Let's just be clear. Being a rapper back then was different. Yes, it was. Like, you know, you know, all you guys. I salute you guys. I salute, you know, because back then it was, you had to be nice and then you had to be nice.

I had to be nice. You had to be nice about all types of shit. Like, like, and, and. Nowadays, you get away with this. And let's keep it real. You get away. And let's keep it real. Get a phone and you get this talk shit.

To me now, like, New York is more accepting than outside rappers. But when I was around 50, like going to Columbia, and like you running the niggas like Jack and he got the arms and he say, Ida call, Idle call. He's going to Jacob, Jacob not getting watches back and shit like that. You're having shit like that, Cliff on the phone.

It was, to me, it was extortion city. Right. Like back then on rappers. Yeah. I didn't go through that. That was around rappers. Not you. I don't know about that part.

You had Sherman the Worm, you already said. Listen, man. You had wild niggas around. We, we, we, I have Brooklyn niggas. I have Brooklyn. I have Bronx. It's Sharn the Worm from Brooklyn? No, Shuron the Worm is from Queensbridge.

But there you go. He's from Queens. Bridge and he moved to Lefrax. Where do you go? But back then, let me get back to, let me get back because I want to close the Hot 97 shit. Let me close that because I don't want to leave that

just link around. Okay. We fucked Hot 97 up. Like right now, I walk through Hot 97 and I just did it. And the fact is, they didn't ask me for my ID. I felt so good.

Because after we did that, excuse me, allegedly. Allegedly, there you go. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Because I was not there. That's right.

I was not there. For real. I was not there. It's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, but we still like to say allegedly. Allegedly.

Allegedly. We changed the transition to how anybody visits radio stations. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, after that, excuse me, before that. But y'all don't know, I represented for New York City. Let me just tell you, let me just say y'all something. I remember that.

We did L.A.L.A. Let me just tell you something. Nobody. Nobody asked, yes, nobody went. And let me just tell you something. Let me tell you something. Y'all rap for real. I went to L.A. For real.

I went to L.A. For real. I went to L.A. And they said to me, you know how, you know how we doing this? and they say, yo, how many people you have with you? I went to L.A. And I was like, all right, cool, fuck it. After L.A. L.A.A. shit.

I went upstairs. Shud was there. Dog pound there. You wasn't scared with sugar was in there? You was a little shiky. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. I used to vote facts.

Yeah, the little, the Loo Y'allel. You know what I was all good. All good. I would love, and I'm like. The little bullske was like. And I'm like, and I'm like, And the nigger at that point, when you see that, that two, two get up in your body.

They didn't go to go. And we went up in there, and they actually squashed it with us. You know, that's how me and me and corrupt is, I love corrupt. You know what I'm saying? We did an episode with corrupt. My nigga, he tried to shit on New York a little bit that day. No, no, everybody does. Like, you were right.

You said I was right. Yes, yes. Oh, my God. You guys are. You guys are here. Even here, man. That's a sob story, man. You know what it is?

You know what it is? get back to you in the way. You know what it is with New York? Like, New York, to me, I feel like, I feel like back in the days it was like more nostalgic. You know, I felt like we were in the game. That's a big word. That's a big word, yeah, yeah.

What the fuck does nostalgia mean? That's like, like, like, throwback, like thinking about the past. Yeah, like, like, it was just you, like, look, you had DMX. Yeah. You had pun. Yeah. You had Jay. Yeah.

You had Nass. Yeah. You had you and Capone. Yeah. All deep. Big. Big. Yeah.

It's like, we, it was. We had everybody. So it just felt like, yo, these niggas ran the game for so long. Yeah. Like, I remember going to radio with Banks one time. We went to like some, you know,

you go to like the radio summits with the DJs. Yeah. And they was like, we're tired of New York, nigga. We tired of New York. Shit. What do you think about the fans right now? They're tired of that, right now.

Look at us. Look at us. Look at us. We didn't even plan this shit. We looked like we had a group. New York, New York's out. We look at all the only nigga that don't got no New York. Hey County.

County. Fuck out of it with that bullshit. Come on, man. Fuck that. Fuck out of it. Y'all lucky y'all had Luke back in the day. Because Luke was that nigga. When you look at New York, hip hop, we go, and we can go to Big Daddy Kane.

Right. We can go to, we ran this shit for so. I mean, started in New York. I mean, we ran, when you think about it, we ran this shit for so many years. That's like when, you know, ATL got it, Texas. It just was like, fuck it. It's our term. Like I said, I remember going, like, to markets.

like Florida and places and you go down south and niggas was kind of like fuck New York that they were we were there like that junior era trust me yeah I remember we went to some DJ shit

me and Banks we're chilling and they're like yeah we're tired of the fucking out of town and play our shit and I was like damn this is changing this is changing we had the market

no because think about it there was a point where New York artists had we had we had you know you had past D.C. You had North Carolina,

you had Virginia, you had ATL, you had all the markets, right? They was forced to play New York shit because we was only the artist that was out there. Now it seemed like a New York artist that dropped as hot might have, you know, like Buffalo, upstate, you know, parts of New York,

Connecticut. But you know, and then you got overseas. But let me just tell you something. What you're skipping over is back then, we had Jersey, we had Long Island, we had Connecticut, we had Philly, They were all riding with us.

But now they got their own pride for their own cities now. Now, so, like, when I hear people say Virginia, like, when I hear people say Virginia is the South, I'd be like, I've never felt like that. Like, and me and this is push your tea. That's my man, my friend, homie. But I'm like, I'm like, yo.

You said, like, we got that shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But what I'm trying to say is. You're right with push the team? Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm trying to say is for years, I thought Virginia was East Coast.

That's a fact. I mean, it is East Coast, technically. The Mason-Dissing line. It was a capital in the South, man. I don't mean to get smarter on motherfuckers, but ain't the Mason-Dixon line after that? Yeah. And that's what they considered the, I got smart.

I'm sorry. I don't want to be smart. Let me get back to Eggman. It's all good. It's all good. Yeah. Let me get back to ignorant. We do that sometime.

Yeah, but so now, now everyone else, like, I'll be honest with you. I used to go to ATL. Sorry. Go to Miami as well. And I used to be like, yo, it's Brooklyn in the house. And niggas would be like,

yo! That was the problem. Everybody wanted to be from Brooklyn back in day. It's Brooklyn in the house. I'm just like you know. Look, look here. I didn't try to tell you. That wasn't bad out of you.

We heard. But what I want to tell you, look, he didn't say it's Queens in the house, right? No, no, no. He said it's Brooklyn in the house. I can't, yeah, get, yeah. You good? No, no, I ain't going to lie to you.

You heard that yet? At one point, at one point, everybody in the world, everybody in the world wanted to be from Brooklyn. I'm going to be honest. Outside of New York, I can't, I'm not friend on, you know, Brooklyn is my people. But I used to do that in ATL. You understand what he just said?

I just make it sure. I just make this sure. I bet. I used to do that. My bad. I fucking you. I'm fucking you. I'm fucking you.

Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no, no. No, I know her. Yeah, born and bro. Yeah, but, yeah, but no, I can't. Now I was gonna snuff that. Yeah, yeah. I can't, I can't.

You know, I just seen Adam Faber. What were? Adam Babes, you know what I'm talking about? I'm from Interscope Records. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, you gonna see, yeah, yo. Like, that's my man. You know, you know, you know, I'm,

sorry, I'm changing the subject again. It's all good, man, so what. That's what we do, man. We just chopped it up. I'm the only New York nigger that went through the jungles by myself. by myself. Safe. Got the footage to prove it.

In fact, the first, the first nigga that I pulled up on, I said, yo, yo, you know who I am? The nigger said, yeah, you little nory. I said, wait a minute. He said, little nory. I said, how the fuck did I go to the West Coast and become little norry? And this nigger had a tattoo that said, because I'm big nori. Oh, shit.

What did you say big nore? That shit said big. N-R-E. Oh, he's not talking about the jungles in Brooke. He's talking about jungles in the West Coast. Oh, shit. Yes. I got lost a little bit.

Yeah, yeah. No, no, come on. I'm with you. I'm giving you the real. I'm giving you the real. Hell no. You know what? That is the same time because, no, no, no, no.

No, no. All right, this is the time where everybody got robbed at the Source Awards. You remember? I remember that back. You remember that? What year was that? Everybody, that's 99. That was in Cali, right?

That was in Cali. Can you name a few rappers that got robbed? Yeah, everybody. Everybody. Everybody, slime. Who was there? I was there. I was there.

I'm out there like this. No, no, no, no, fuck that. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. What year and so what was this?

I ain't going to lie to you. What year was this? Let me tell you, let me tell you who I was proud of. Nah, I wasn't proud of a lot of people. Um, New York, I came outside, Slime. What year was this, Norman? 99, 2000. 99, 2000.

99, 2000. We're going to look all this shit up. Ed, get that, put it. The 99, 2,000 source awards where niggas got proud. I said I wasn't proud of because a lot of New Yorkers, they didn't come outside. They didn't come up. Nause came outside.

Nyes came outside. Nyes came outside. But Nause also told me, man, go out, go inside. He pulled up. It was like, yo, why are you here? And what I'm trying to tell you to, like. So was bloods and creeps outside? Just mad colors?

What did it look like? A sea of colors? I love this. question. Like, you know the movie colors? These dudes had hats. They weren't disguised as gang members. No. They were disguised as regular people. They had dockers on. You know what I'm saying? But you could look and like one thing about gang members, you can't. Energy. Yeah, you can't like, you can't like, you can't hide what you're doing. So we were looking and, um, Adam Faber's, this is the reason why I brung up Adam Davis, um, from, from Interscope. So we hit Adam Faber's who is a red. So we hit Adam

famous who is a regular dude he's he's he's he's a he's a regular dude but we like yo we need the yalla yalla and he brung out the yandes and i had the yonde i brought the toughest people that i knew got a brooklyn niggins with you i had brooklyn niggas with me too but it was greens in the the bruns it was greens and brooklyn niggas with me yes but but but i'll tell you like this bigger buster rhymes as well No one came outside with me, bro. When I was like, yo, I'm going to the after parties. I'm going through and Sugar them had six fours

that was all red through the whole shit and I went to the parties. I did this. Imagine going to T and that. You see six fours? And it's after all that L.A. L.A. This is after. You know, I perform L.A. in L.A.

Oh, shit. I'm talking about, no. Yes, yes. I've done this. Like, I've done this like, I've done this. Like, I am, I love LA, but let me just tell you something. This is nostalgic moments, man. I'm a real New Yorker.

I held New York down when New York needed to be. I stepped to Big, and I said, Big, we went back at these dudes. And Big said to me, he was so, he was, he said, don't do it. He was so smart back then he was less than 24-year-old because he died at 24. And he said to me, Norrie, nah, don't. Don't do it. I'm not going to release it. So I don't know if y'all remember, back in the days, it was mixtapes.

It was a bad boy mixtape. And in the bad boy mixtape, they hired different DJs. Duwop, Stretch Armstrong. So it was Duop, Stretch Armstrong, and DJ Clue. Showsh Armstrong hired us to do this. And we did the LALA. And by the way, this was unpopular. This was, yeah.

And like, I love the fact that I could tell I was so happy I did that shit, man. Because I was so mad, nobody wasn't doing that. Nobody, nobody. I was, I was going to lie. If you were out back then. If I was out back then, I would have been disrespecting everything. But I was sitting back as a short.

It took some queens. Yeah, I didn't. I gave you a problem. Because I was sitting back as a show. You're just looking like, why the fucking nobody's a niggins is scared of these nigg? Well, hold on. Let me give you a slurry. It's exclusive.

It's exclusive. We dropped their record. Pride of you. Says, I don't want to be a part of the record. So if you listen to L-A-L-A record, his verse is off. Hmm. But then if you listen to a different version of it, there's a version of it.

His verse is on it. I was saying, he's a version I was listening to his privacy version, but I told you, I'll take it over. Okay. This is now my show. Okay, let's go. We're here with you, let's go.

I put y'all on it anyway. I put y'all on in the way. Oh, damn, man. I'll tell, man. So. from coming from Queens and get down. Now listen, now listen.

You remember that, nigga? Now listen. Dee Rifkin calls us and says, Steve Riff can still my man to the day. He was scared for that one. He said, take prodigy off. Wow.

Because. Mocking it wise. All right. I'm going to be out. That version was out already. Hold on, hold on. It was out. Hear me out.

We didn't know that it was dissing us. Because it was just saying, New York, New York, big city a dream. But they never said, fuck Biggie or fuck Got you. They actually said that they were bigging up New York.

They said that. Get the fuck out of it. You believe that shit. Remember? From LA. Remember? Oh, the niggas kicking the bitch. Yo, shout to Snoop.

No, no, that was before that. No, no, that was before that. Relax, bro. You get crazy. You don't even know what they know. Come on, man. He said they were shouting them out. You want to just jump.

No, he said they were shouting them out. No, no. That's what they said. You believe that shit? Mm-mm. He heard it. He heard what that's a good. He heard.

I want to believe that. He heard it. He heard it. He heard it too. He believed it too. No, no, no. You believe that. Listen, listen.

Let's finish that story. Go ahead. Let me finish. So we have to take Prudy off. We have no, we have no choice. We have no choice. We have no way to take him. Then we do the video.

Right. Hit him up comes out the next day. Prodigy is like, I would. to be back on the bracket. Ha ha ha. What's the big prodigy. Look at that.

But here, pride, yeah, but hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. The reason why Prides, you want to be taking off of the record is because his line, and you could go look this up,

I love this. The first time you've been talking to sit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's dope. Okay. He said JFK on our way to LA. None of us spoke about LA. None of us spoke about anything, beef,

and his, he was the, only one that said JFK on our way to LA. Now, so when you look this up now, okay, if you want me to get deeper. Of course. He used that same verse on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, um, real niggas rap.

Yeah, real niggas rap. It's the same exact verse. Go pull that up. But then hot distim. And I was really, really, really, really, really mad because I wanted pock to diss me. You wanted to be like, Nick, come at me, let's go, pause.

I really, and I, you know, I love the outlaws, I speak to them, but I wanted, I wanted, I wanted that smoke. Because they said something about you. They did not. They did not. No, no, no, no, they did not. I'm a big of the outlaws, I love them.

They, they're my people. But what I'm saying is, it was crazy because had Prodigy, like, stuck with that, there might not be a hit them up. There might not be a hit of mark. Look at that. Look at that.

I mean, this is, this is, I'm giving y'all. This is, this is, this is real shit. That's great. This is real shit. Look at that. That was Rachel. We got to argue more. We got to argue more on this year.

Next time. I also know. What? Come on. How did y'all come out with this whole podcast? I really want to know what made y'all even do that. Yeah, that's a good thing. I really want to know.

We were getting into it. Like, how did the magic? Like, how did that happen? How did that happen? When did you moved this. When he moved that. When he moved. And he moved down to Miami.

Okay. He was working out of my studio. Right. And we was working on record. He said, bring me back to hip hop after the Togon stuff. He knew I was a diehard hip hop head. So I'm like, all right, let's go. Let's do it.

Came to Miami. I do it. Came to Dade County. Okay. All right. Queens came to Dade County. All right. Queens came to Day County.

That's how you know what you're doing. Yeah. All right. It's my brother right. And so in those studio sessions, we linked up with Leo G who was at XM radio at the time. Remember 66, Ronald of y'all got to ask. That moment. So he knew him.

He connected us, and he's like, yo, y'all want your own show on XM. Right. Wow. And this is our studio in South Miami. He's like, we usually don't let people send in shows. Like, they have to come to, they were in D.C., XM at the time. He's like, but y'all could do it and send it in, and we'll air it every week. And we did a show.

It's called Militame and Crazy Raw Radio. It's on YouTube. People check it out. It looks and sounds like drink chants that had all our homies. We drinking Tiger Bow. We were talking about. We didn't have many guests, though, because we in South Miami, nobody was coming to check us. We had, like, fadjo.

A couple people came through. for like three years after the merger series X-M, we was on there, different channels, like they had backspin, hip-hop nation, different channels on XM. We finished doing that. He did a new CNN album. He went on tour. I started managing a group that started going on tour with they were signing a Tech Nine,

you know? Yeah, Tech Nine is easy. So you know how they toured. You know how they toured. Yeah, you know how they tour. Yeah, Techno. So we went on the road immediately with Tech Nine, so we stopped doing the show because we didn't do it.

because we didn't do it. We make no money off that show. It was just promo. Yep. And but we loved doing the show. We had a lot of fun. So I had a homie. His name is Godfrey.

He had a podcast called Gamer Tag. It was like a gaming hip hop show. And he was always like, yo, you should do a podcast. And podcasts in hip hop wasn't a thing. It was considered like computer people. I'm like, what the fuck is nobody doing? But I was like, you know what the fuck is. So I'm gonna fuck with him anyway.

But I'm like, what the fuck is. Nobody knew what it was. Exactly. But do you think like when, Joe Buttons because they feel like you and Joe Button started at first. They were hurt now. Joe Biden was early. Joe was really. He was early. He was early.

Both was like super earned up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So no. So, so, homie kept saying to me, do the podcast. I told him, look, we could do that show he was doing as a podcast. Other people hit him up like Combat Jack, rest in peace, Combat Jack. Legend. He hit him up and said, yo, that shit you were doing

your friend could be a podcast. So for years, I'm telling him, let's do this podcast. He was like unsure about it. it. Like, I already did this all fucking all this Spanish music shit, niggins ain't fucking, you're right. You're right. He didn't want to do something that looks maybe people. Oh, that's some corny shit. Got it be. So at that time, it was nerds doing this shit. Of course. I got it. Because I don't want to dis-nors. And like, I don't want people to be like- Not because Saif was in the nerd, but I mean, I understand

it was-Sahman-South and Rosenberg. Unless you were hip. It was people that was hip to the money early that was doing this stuff. Well, it wasn't making money yet, really. They wasn't making that kind of money. It really was doing it for the love. Yeah, kind of like how we did the Sirius show. Okay, got you. So then mind all that shit. Back in those studio sessions, we was gambling in my studio. He was recording records, drinking, smoking.

He was doing poker. He was playing poker, and I was recording records. And then we was drinking all night smoking, and then at the end of the night, whoever wasn't standing up, we would say, you're not a drink champ. So now I'm telling you how the name came. Oh, shit.

I said, you're not a drink champ. Oh, look at that. Okay, okay. So I said, yo, and this is just a drink champ. And this is years before we do a podcast. I didn't know what it was. I said, I love that drink champ. So I bought Drinkchamps.com and DrinkChamp, the single and the plural.

And then I grabbed the handles, Twitter, IG, copy wrote that shit. Then I had my homie who is a famous artist out of Carroll City. Scam. He did the Beets Rhyman Life album cover for Tribe Called Quest. He did the Slim Shady artwork. Did the Slim Shady outfit? Scam. Scam is a legend.

He's my homie. He did the logo for us. I said, make a logo for this. He made the famous logo now. And then my homie, that same dude that was telling us about podcast, Gawfrey, he got a deal for his podcast with CBS. He's like, yo, I could introduce you. And I told him, he's like, yo, that sounds kind of big, CBS.

I like CBS. That sounds quite bad. You know y'all. I am going to throw Hallyw to Brooklyn because what finally really convinced him is he did Tach Stone's show. Yes. And he came back saying, I could see now someone like me doing this. Because he did it with Tach Stone.

Yeah. Let me big up the Tachstone one. But it was also a prodigy's book. Prodigy book, he had said something about me that wasn't accurate. And I had to respond. Got you. And I went to the breakfast club and I went to 197. But he's right with Tach Stone.

Yeah, it was. Recipe's Proudge. He was a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a little crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a little crazy. But so I walked through Toronto Airport.

I remember this like it was yesterday. And a person just looked at me and pointed at me and said, Breakfast Club. And I was like, yo, I either owe them money, but they ain't really owe me some money. Because why? And then that's when I called them. It's the same week.

I did Tax Stone. I did Hot 97. But I also want to give Angie Martin. She was her props. Oh, definitely. Angie Martinez kept hitting me and saying to me, Yo, Y, Norrie, I'm gonna be sick on Thursday because she's that much of a legend.

And she was like, can you fill in for me? And I was like, yes. She was like, yo, would you like to, like, you know, shit, I'm being very careful what I say, how I say it. She wanted me to, yes, because no, no, she wasn't going to be there. She wasn't going to be there. So, and I went in. Fill in.

Oh, you didn't want to say fill in? Yeah. I'm trying to let her. I know he made four I was like one and then I started to learn the actual number I still know it

180 two to three 97 97 look at that and I was just like you know what I could kind of do this I kind of like could fuck with this

but I didn't know I didn't know and then I knew he was good for this that's why like I got I knew he was perfect his shit so credit his shit

we took we took the approach of the same shit I'm the DJ he's the rapper we're gonna take this into the podcast world You know what I'm saying? I knew he was perfect for this shit So let's go

I put it all together You know Just come and he brought all You know all his relationships I brought what I did I brought my side of it I'm behind the scenes doing shit Let's go

Let's get it done And we got it done You know listen When we have 463 A million Oh yeah There's like some crazy stats

Billions like Like we put out of stacks The stats The stats You're humble about But you're doing your number Impressings Okay

Like we really Like You're really Complexless Yeah Yeah yeah What number was y'all? They put me at 35.

But they always keep me out of the fucking list. I don't know, Columbus don't like me, man. That's because they never put me in this. They never put me. No, you said you gotta understand. What about the hip hop last? When the niggins say, when the niggins say, no, yeah, you gotta understand, yeah. You don't got to grab my own.

But when the niggins say ice cube is better than Biggie, they not put you one for you. Oh, I ain't. Do you understand? They not do it. But when you say Ice Cube, yeah, not gonna. Listen, Complex on him on the show. Hell yeah.

And you know what's crazy? Biggie would have said Ice Cube. I believe him. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Biggie was a big fan of NWA. He was a big fan of that. You know, rappers do always salute their OGs and things like that.

Yeah, yeah. They do salute. I understand what you said like that, but I don't think Big would have said, nah, I don't know. I don't know. Did you see LeBron recently? He just said he was the goat of all time?

I just seen that. LeBron is my guy and I do think LeBron is the goal. Okay. Where's my son at? I'm going with Jordan. They left? All right, cool.

What do you got to say about that? I'm going with Jordan. I'm going with Jordan. I heard somebody else in here and said, Jordan, Kobe. LeBron, my God, there we go. Look, Jordan, Kobe, then LeBron. No, you can't tell.

Some people are going to look and say, LeBron, Jordan, Kobe. Yo, they tell them this we got a rap. Yeah, yeah. How long we've been in for like two hours? Only on the drink. In a real course. Let's bring it back to Miami.

Let's bring it back to Miami. Okay, cool. Let's go. Let's argue it not to her. Yes. I'm with that. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

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