Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Skilla Baby on surviving shooting, working w/ Chris Brown & 42 Dugg, Power Origins, Real Estate gems

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

Skilla Baby joins Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda on The Real Report for a revealing conversation about surviving a shooting, returning to the streets only days later and turning the experience into motivat...ion to improve his health, faith and career. The Detroit rapper breaks down creating “Thick One” and “West to East” with 42 Dugg, investing his music money into real estate, buying houses for approximately $20,000 and becoming one of the youngest Black developers from his neighborhood. Skilla also speaks on the dangers of record-label advances, Detroit loyalty, working with Chris Brown, Bryson Tiller, Wiz Khalifa, Nas and Erica Campbell of Mary Mary, plus his upcoming album The Price of Fame. He also reveals how two years of acting classes helped him land a role in Power: Origins, shares lessons from working with Omar Epps on Moses the Black and opens up about giving away a house, supporting students and contributing $50,000 to a Detroit gun buyback.Go to https://baskandlatherco.com and use code REALREPORT for 20% offSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 F*** the intro. It's the real report. We got the realest artists. The biggest artist out of Detroit right now. Make some noise for Skiller Baby, man. You know what the vibe. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Fresh out the body shop. shop. You know what I'm saying? My man got pop and he's back better than never, man. Y'all can't stop him, man. Y'all can't stop him. Y'all can't stop him. Y'all can't stop him. And we heard the new music. Y'am motherfuckers in trouble, man. Word. Shout out to 42, though. What's the process of that thick one? Thick one is the hot shit on the streets right now.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Talk to you know what I'm saying? It's been shodding for a minute. Talk about the process, you know, you and 42 Doug collapsing. We, really, me and Doug had to get cool on. We just, like, we weren't at odds, but we were just like, I just wanted my friend. I wasn't his friend. So we had to get cool first and then he ended up being a cool. So I knew he need a girl record.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Like, and he did that street records. So I had some of my phone that I already did, and I really sent it to him. Like, I, that was really supposed to be a record for my album. But I'd be having girl records in my phone and shit. I know everybody would want girl records for me. So I just sent them the hook and the idea and shit. Talk about the new album.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I was telling what you with Rocket. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, in the Falun Blue. We was in Vegas. We was in Vegas. We had a restaurant. We, you know, cons of fucking waggoo, pastrami and all this good shit. And shit was coming out and smoking. And then he just started playing the records.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And I heard another one with Doug, and I was like, man, this is like, it's gonna kill the streets for the summer. What was the name of that one, rock? That was the street, well, that shit was hard. It's out. It's out. I put that out like two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Oh, okay. West to East. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's hard. Yeah, definitely. You definitely got to, I'm definitely gonna get that on Apple Music, Spotify, whatever it is. Shout to you and Doug, because that's another one. Y'all did like both of the records
Starting point is 00:04:56 in the same day type, did? Uh-uh. I had, um, I did the, The thick one shit, I did that like two years ago, like almost two years ago. I had that in my phone just sitting, I sent it to him. He liked it. And then the west of east shit,
Starting point is 00:05:13 I did that right after I got shot, and I was just on some bullshit. And then I was just thinking of a bunch of creative ways to get my shit off. So then the sample like a real, like they consider Blade Icewood, the biggest rapper from Detroit, you know, like the history of Blade Icewood. So I thought like to, for us to both get on there,
Starting point is 00:05:35 it just means something for Detroit. That was like some shit we did for Detroit. But yeah, we just been, we got me and Doug got like five, six songs. Yeah. I think about putting the EP together out or something like that? Yeah, we're supposed to be working on the table. Okay, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:05:50 But we wound to getting shot, man, because that car got switched cheese, man. Thank God you still made it, man. What, like, what the fuck you was feeling like? Did you see niggas on you or like? No, they got on the side of me, for real, for real. The car wasn't bulletproof. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:06:05 God bless. I be, like, I'd be moving around like I'm normal on some shit. Can't do that, man. Can't be doing that. Definitely, you know, he'd be rolling dice Harlem. You know how he is. He's in New York City. You know how home will make you feel.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Shout out to Porter. You know the vibes. You didn't shut up. My God, that's my brother. You're Porter in Harlem. You know what I'm saying? Portie said I'm from Harlem. You're at every street.
Starting point is 00:06:28 You were at every street. of course, fucking it up. How do you know to make the music for the women? Like how do you know like to relate to them like that? Some shit just be natural though. Like you know how street niggas, some niggas just make music where the streets feel it like. I think some shit just be natural like, and you can't really explain it.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I didn't go to the studio like I'm gonna be the girl rapper. I never did that. I went to the studio like I'm gonna make what I feel. Girls end up feeling that shit. You see some work and then like, it's like making food. Like you find a recipe. You don't just change your recipe if people like you. You do what people like because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:07:10 we do it for our fans. We don't do it for some other shit. You do it to please your fans and the people that listen to you and support you. So I just figured that out. Rocket was just telling me that today like, damn, you mastered this shit. And I was like, I really don't feel like I mastered it. But like, I know my niche. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Got you. 100%, you know, 2024, you was on that freshman cover. And when I view things, I look at it like you, Big X to Plug, Cash Cobain. I believe Scarlett was on there. But just between y'all three right there, know how to make fucking hit records, Big X to plug, Cash Cobain and you. And it's like, it's just like when you win the studio, do you bring girls in the studio? It depends on the day for real. I could go to the studio.
Starting point is 00:08:01 A lot of times, like, I like being in studio by myself. Like, if I want to make a song like thick one, I'll probably bring some girls. But if I want to make some real music and get deep, I'll probably go by myself because I don't need no distractions. I don't need to feel like I'm not going to say this because this person here or not. I just need to get this shit off and I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Like, you know what I'm doing? Why? How did you feel when you was on a freshman cover? Shout to Double X-El Vanessa. Yeah. You know, that's one of the first covers we was on G-Unit. So I always, you know, shout out double X-X-L-X-L. How you feel, that was like a big accomplishment?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, I felt like that, like, cement you and hip-hop, so to speak. Like, when you're on XXEL, it's all these certain people get on that shit. So it's like something that, it's like a little cool thing to say when you get older, like, it's something that some of the biggest people came off of so you can't never downplay XXL I feel like
Starting point is 00:08:58 they're watering it down now with people doing the freestyle and stuff and they're not really
Starting point is 00:09:02 taking it serious that's what was my problem with it at first but you can't
Starting point is 00:09:08 help what other people doing but I feel like they should
Starting point is 00:09:11 kind of like put it put it back together how it was like making
Starting point is 00:09:16 more less accessible to just the average people but I appreciate
Starting point is 00:09:23 it being on because everybody can't get on it. Yeah, definitely. I know you got Hellcats, Trackhawks, jewelry, and you got everything. You know, you're rich, right? So, no, I'm just keeping it real.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But tell the young niggas out there, the Yans out there about your real estate ventures because a lot of people don't know about that. I know you bought a lot of real estate up. Yeah, real estate. I got in a real estate from my guy. He works for the mayor's office. His name, Ray Simpson, a cold guy.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I um he started introducing real estate to me and um I was young but I was um I really got into it because every niggia that I know that sold dope and shit that's what they did with their money you know what I'm saying they bought houses you know what I'm saying so I got into it and I really flipped my first house this year I've been sitting on houses for like years but I flipped my first house this year a couple months ago congratulations appreciate you But I really jumped into it just because I had money. I wanted to see what I could do. Like I got a block where I got like three, four houses on there.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I bought them for $20,000 a piece. They worked like $500 and I'm like. And I ain't even touched them. So I just, that's what made me really love it. Now I'm getting into new developments. I'm going to like the youngest black developers from my hood. So it's like I could build from the ground up. Now I got into like a little bit with the politics helping the mayor.
Starting point is 00:10:53 and stuff getting the office. So they, like, they just always on my side. They make sure I do everything, right? If I need inspection and stuff, they just make sure I get my permits, do everything, right? So shout out Mary Sheffield and the mayor's office. They help me when I do gun buy bags that I didn't gave kids, shoes, 500 pairs of shoes.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm always showing up to those events. I put some kids through college, put some people through law school. So the mayor's office always helped me give back to the community and then my community bless me. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I go. I'm going to Detroit, man, one of the biggest artists. Yeah, because your hook's like, man, it's like you write million-dollar hooks, man.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I don't know. I just do you write or you just come in the booth. I do both. I do both. I'd be inspired by life, so I don't really go to the studio a lot. I try to live and then go to the studio to have something to write about. Like, if I made a song called Thick one, I probably had a thick one with you. Thick one that night.
Starting point is 00:11:56 He made that. He definitely had a reality. And you'd be rapping Detroit heavy. So what part shaped you the most in Detroit? Like, Detroit, the whole Detroit really shaped me though, because, like, I grew up on the West Side and stuff. My whole family from, like, Lentwood and that area. But I grew up, like, on, like, seven miles in Myers.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So, and then when I got older, I got like 19, I started going to the east side, running around. So it's like, I'd be inspired by everything about Detroit. Even the niggas I don't like. I rather hang with them than other niggas. Like, I would never hang with them niggas, but I'd rather hang with the niggas I don't like from Detroit. Then go to certain places and hang with, like, niggas, like, because niggas be weird to me. Got you, got you. Like, that's just a.
Starting point is 00:12:48 my preference, like Detroit niggas. My niggas, I fuck with niggas. Home be. I did the record with him. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Home just be, you get too comfortable at home. That's how he was talking about my shit and switch cheese and shit
Starting point is 00:13:03 because you get too comfortable. You get to doing normal shit? Ligas start hating and shit like that. Yeah, you know. You think niggas get bored when they get rich? It's like young rappers, like, you know, young celebrities and y'all make all this money and you can buy mansions and you can get any girl you want. I think that's not the boring.
Starting point is 00:13:18 The boredom part is when you get rich, you got to leave home and then that's not home. Like, again, you imagine being 25 and you can't go to the block. Like I grew up on the block. How the fuck you're going to tell me I can't go to the block because I'm rich? This is where I'm comfortable. This is where it makes me happy. So I got to be not happy because I'm rich. I think like that.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Once you get rich, the police ban you anyway. Because when you look at Young and Nace in Florida, he can't even go to Florida. can't even come back to where he's from. Yeah, that's from certain... That's from certain circumstances, though. Like, see, me, like, my city really loved me. It's just probably a couple niggas that just got it off of me. But my city really love me.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like, I go anywhere. I could go anywhere. The police love me. Street niggas love me. The kids love me. Because I don't go starting problems. I ain't a nigga that's going to pull up looking for problems. I ain't even a nigga that's going to get on here.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Like, yeah, I want to kill people every day. I don't. I want to see everybody. everybody lived. So like, I ain't going there with that type of energy.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I ain't going on set. I went to movie set. The power shit, I go with suits on. Like, I ain't even trying to give street, nicking.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I ain't one of them niggas. It's just, I like, I like going to hang on my block. I like going to hang in the hood. I do.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And that's what make me happy. I like going to strip clubs. I do. I ain't going to lie. I like being around bitches.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But if you're successful, you know, what I'm saying, As you successful, you know people who's going to hate. You just dropped in 2024. You had the freshman cover. It's only 2026. You put out hit records for the ladies,
Starting point is 00:14:59 hit records for the clubs. You got a hit record out now. We just know you know how to make fucking hit records. So why go back and, you know, a wise man once always told me, you know, protect the money. For sure, but money don't just equal happiness. When you go back and you like, this is what you know.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Like, you be like, you gotta think, it don't matter how rich you get, you still gonna know what you know. You're gonna love what you love. Like, everybody you love, you can't take with you. So I can't never see you because you're on the block.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I feel you, but I don't feel. I don't get that. Like, when I look at, rest in peace, young Dolph, send a nigga to go get some cookies. No, I ain't saying. Listen, I'm just saying, just for him being in the hood,
Starting point is 00:15:45 like he had the bulletproof Ferrari and all that, he could have sat in the car and his brother or whoever rest in Pete his brother could have went and got the cookies but that might have made young Dorff happy
Starting point is 00:15:55 you can't tell young Dorff would made him happy that cookie store might have brought him happiness that might be his spot that where he grew up in
Starting point is 00:16:04 made brought him joy that shit might have he might have had depression his whole life and went to that cookie store and it relieved him but when you but when you're an artist
Starting point is 00:16:14 right you public property you know we got a lot to deal We know that every single day is watching your back. You got shiasty promoters, industry people, stick up kids, baby mama drama, girls trying to get you for your money. You know, you got IRS, you got the feds. Everybody's watching.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Gunn police. Everybody's watching because you're a rich black man with money. So I just think we have beef with everybody. So instead of us like going in Walmart, know what I'm saying, to go get socks or under, no, You, send a nigga in there. Because it's levels. I think when you go back, it's fucked up. Like, I feel like Limsey's supposed to be alive,
Starting point is 00:16:54 dog supposed to be alive, a lot of niggas. God bless you alive. But what age did you figure that out, though? What? That, I got beef with all these niggis and I got to do this this way. What age was you? Well, when I came home, 50 told me he gave me my first Jacob and he told me, you know, motherfucker, shoot you for this.
Starting point is 00:17:12 What age, though? He was probably 25, 26. So you got to think a lot of these niggas dying at 21, 22. Niggas don't know no better. Niggas just get, I just told my label this. They give you all this money, right? It's not even your money. This is your marketing, this your recording budget.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So they give you this money, you going to blow your first run the first time you get some money regardless. I don't care who you are. You're blowing your first run. They're going to give you this money that automatically make you a bigger thing. thread in the hood. Then you're going to blow this money.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You're not getting no money to you fulfill your obligations. You're not getting nothing. You're not getting, you're not getting streaming money. You better hope you're getting shows. You're not getting no more advances. You ain't getting nothing. No rice, no nothing. You're not eating. Yeah, yeah, no rice.
Starting point is 00:18:06 No chicken, no. You're going to blow this shit. You're going to buy a car. You're going to buy some jury. You're going to buy a house. And then you're going to help people around you. Then you're going to buy some guns. Then you're going to get the doing bullshit. You know what I'm saying? You're going to be a bigger threat
Starting point is 00:18:22 because the niggas know you got money now. And then you're going to blow it all. Now you've got to go back there. People still think you got money and your ass going to get blew down because the label ain't got nothing for you. So the label really, this is, the label really, like,
Starting point is 00:18:40 I ain't saying they're the reason why young niggas die, but they're enhancing this shit because it's no artist development. It's no, they're not teaching financial literacy. They're not doing all this shit. They're giving you a bunch of money. They're not telling you to do nothing with it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 They're really telling you to go do the shit that's helping you sell, which is the bullshit. And then you're going to blow it all. And then they ain't got nothing for you. And your music are going to stop selling because you're not inspired about nothing. You're not seeing nothing else.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You're not doing nothing. And it's going to be. 20 other little niggas just like you. So, like, that's why a lot of this shit happened. I watch it every day. I've seen this movie a hundred times. You know what I'm saying? I just happen to get lucky.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I be around older niggas like y'all and y'all give me game. Like, I talk back and get my peace, but I'm still listening to you. I don't live in Detroit. I'd be gone. So what's going through your head when the car's getting shot up? Because you got hit or grazed? Leah. Huh?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I got hit. I got hit. Graze. It's live. Like, I don't be in no situation panicking. I got faith in God. So like, God just, if it's my time, I feel like it's my time.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I ain't yelled nothing, and wasn't nobody in the car to yell to. So it's like, all right, boom, let me get out the way of these bullets. Let me turn. These niggas gotta go straight. I'm gonna crash this bitch. I'm gonna get out.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I'm gonna get out of harm's way. I ain't gonna. Like, we accept what come with this shit too. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, anytime you, you doing certain shit, like, and I don't do bullshit, but you live a certain life. Unfortunately, we was born in the ghetto,
Starting point is 00:20:21 so you live a certain life. You gotta accept what come with everything you got going on. As a man, as a street nigga, like, I don't, I don't, I'll never wake up a day and be like, nothing can't happen to me. I don't do that, especially being from Detroit or hanging in Detroit. Like, niggas get robbed, niggas get shot,
Starting point is 00:20:42 a type of shit get happened. You might get hit by a car. It might just be your time to get hit my car. I tell young niggas like, yo, listen, I'm in the country where niggas on got guns, so I'm good. What country is that? Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Matt, this bad countries, there's no guns. We've been in a country. Yo, look, we, look. Yo, we was in the country? I already get shot to get hit by a knife. Yo, look, look. Wasn't we in the country? I don't know what country was,
Starting point is 00:21:05 but you don't remember, the police had to give their guns in at the end of the night so they don't, nothing. I think that's Dublin. Yeah, it was Dublin or something. It might be doubling. You ain't have fun. When you overseas for me, instead of you being in the strip club, rolling in the gamble spot, spend your money in Florida Paris.
Starting point is 00:21:22 You ain't have fun there, though. I'm going to see the Mona Lisa shopping at Louis. I'm going to have fun going to see Big Ben. Ask him why he ain't there right now. Why he'll litter? Who? Why he'll live in Dublin? Yo, listen, the value better pay me more money.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Why he'll live in Dublin? Yo, listen. Let me explain. Let me explain so. Yeah. Why he ain't living in the Dublin? He don't even, y'all don't even know my next plan. My next plan is to have a gold passport.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's when I have residents in Amsterdam, Paris or whatever, and I will live it. That's in the future. Volume keep paying me. But they always talk about what they going to. Going to do, right? Niggas. Nick's getting all this money. I see a nigga with watches, chains, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I see a nigga doing millions of shows. So, Murdo. When you in America. He still don't live in Dublin. Yo, I can't wait to. I can't wait too he goes on a big-ass tour. And he's going to be like, yo, I'm telling you, he's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 You, Rockie, call the phone. I'm staying in Switzerland, man. I'm not leaving here, man. I'm not coming to. I'm telling you. I love that. I ain't go lie to you. You going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:22:33 You going to get there? I'm going to tell you the truth. I've been a thousand places in the world. Ain't no pussy like Detroit pussy. Oh, shit. I don't know about that, but. I'm telling you. I'm going home.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm going home. Well, if Detroit pussy can fly to Switzerland at you. You catching a stunt. To me, I love, I just love touring overseas. Yeah, where that slogan Detroit versus everybody come from? Because they was going to haul with that. That's how Detroit is. It's just how Detroit is.
Starting point is 00:23:00 We ain't like, like, if I see a nigga I'm beefing, we're out of town. And some out of town niggas get on him, I'm daring to get on the out of town. Because it makes Detroit look bad. You ain't know that, Merck? Detroit fight, they fight each other. But once they go out of town, it's them together. They're together. They're going to get you.
Starting point is 00:23:15 It's going to make Detroit as a whole look bad. Like, I don't got to be cool with a nigga to make my city look good. Like, I ain't have to be cool with Doug. But if some out-of-town niggas get on Doug and I'm right there, I ain't saying I'm jumping in a nigga beef, but if I'm right there and out-of-town, you get on Peasy or Vezzo or Ray or anybody, I'm, I got to protect home.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that just is what it is. Like, I ain't, them niggies. ain't got to be my friends. It's just Detroit versus everybody. That's our culture. Like, I can't even, I don't know who. That's just how we was raised, for real.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Like, I ain't going to be out of town. Even if I don't like it's certain niggas, I just absolutely don't like that all. But I'm never going to be out of town telling the business. I'm never going to be saying, like, I don't like you would never know. Let me ask you a question. You think Detroit niggas and New York niggas started the car of the airwave? Detroit niggers for sure. I'm going to say that because I'm biased and that's what I really think.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I thought New York niggas had the Cardiards first. That's what I think. I thought I thought it's too, I'm not a mistake. We don't, no, but buffs, cardiers, you know, see. No, we don't really do like, Cardi's like. What do you consider buffs? The wood on the side or not? No, white is white is, it's supposed to be genuine buffalo horn.
Starting point is 00:24:29 But I thought it was just Cardi's, period, every Cardiardia. No, we wear buffs. I thought New York's like. Some niggers wear wires and woods they did back in it, but we, we wear boots. Now, they're heavy on the Cardiards out there. We like white buffs, though. Like, you gotta have the white as buff genuine Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Her and never. Nah, Detroit, your key, y'all get fly. Y'all got the glasses. The jewelry, y'all, jury game is crazy in Detroit. You go to Detroit, everybody looking like Mr. T. out there. So, man. Everybody think they're a celebrity in Detroit. And it was pimping hard in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:25:03 That was like, that was like, hard. I ain't know no pimps. You ain't know no pimps in Detroit. My mama told me it was pimps in Detroit. I ain't even know that, though. Gentlemen, gentlemen, this is a sponsor show. I don't know anything. Fuck all that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:25:13 They was pimping hard in Detroit, man. Mama Love was right. They was pimping hard in Detroit, digger. I'm talking about the jury game. I know. I was talking about the police. So, yo, after you got shot, you went right back outside, like, maybe two, three days later, maybe five days? Yeah, I don't be wanting nobody to think they got nothing over me.
Starting point is 00:25:30 The nigga ain't gonna think he stopped this show. Crazy, man. I don't like, I don't like, niggins thinking they got power over you. Like, I did that because I wanted to let a nigga know, like, yeah, you know, you know, you don't stop nothing. Like, you don't stop no show? You gotta really stop the show. I don't, I won't raise like that, though.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Like, I swear to God, like, my pops would have told me, man, get your ass up. Like, I had a pops that was born in 46, so he yon-s him. Man, if a nigga hit you, hit him back. I just want to see all my young boys get the money before they're dead or in jail, man. That's really it. Because we get excited. Y'all making way more money than we did way back. So it's like, for me, I just get excited.
Starting point is 00:26:10 So when I see young niggas fuck up the bag, that shit kind of make me tight. Like, damn, niggas making Chef G. Sleepy Hollow. You know, these guys. You know what I mean? Free the gaza. But, like, dudes is, y'all missing out on serious bread.
Starting point is 00:26:25 But I ain't really into-it-with-niggas off shit I did. Like, is not no shit. I ain't, I ain't into-it-with-n-n-tool-n-nick. I'm off, I be in-tooled with niggas off family shit. Like, I'm a soldier, so, like, I'm on my-a-. mama only boy. So I don't want to put too much shit. It'd be just be like, I'm in tool with niggins because my mama had one boy and I just happen to be front line for this shit. So that's just what it is. Like I'm dying about that shit. Like I don't really care about
Starting point is 00:26:57 none. I'm down about my respect and my family. That's one thing I'm jumping in front of bullets. I'm doing whatever. Like I'm going to come get you about that shit and everything. I don't want no problems with nobody. I never go outside. You see me outside. I never wanted a problem with nobody. But for my family and for my respect and people I love, my friends, all that shit, I'm standing front line about this shit.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I don't care how rich I get. How do you help get them out that situation? So you ain't got to put yourself in a situation. I moved them. I moved them. But this just happened to be a situation that happened before I got rich. You know what I'm saying? Before I was in a position to move my family, shit, shit happened.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And shit, I just had to stand front line for that shit. And even if I got to stand by myself, I'm standing on that shit. Regardless, I'm never going to apologize for being a good man of my family. Like, I'm not never doing that shit. And if I got to go against a whole village of people, I'm doing that shit. About my village, you know what I'm saying? Even about your, I'm going that way. Like, if I see a nigga, like, I'm a person that if I seen the niggis disrespecting your
Starting point is 00:28:04 behind your back, I'm standing on it because I look like, I'll catch all like my big brothers. Appreciate that. So if a nigger, I'm a little. Man, yay, yo. Murder. No, y'all got, I'm gonna call y'all. Man, y'all heard what dogs said about your?
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Starting point is 00:29:17 Yo, come on. Let's talk about the album. Chris Brown. Bryson Tiller, 42 Doug, and Wiz Khalifa. I got Mary, Mary on that shit, all the type of shit. I asked you about that, right, Mary, Mary, because I've seen something. where you went to church and all that. What made you want to do that?
Starting point is 00:29:38 It was that situation and shit I was going through. And I was really fighting myself. I was like, all right, boom, I could go do this and be in a situation like other people or I could try to figure just shouting through it a different way. So then I just happened to be with the president, A&R, my label, and he was with Warren K. which is Erica Campbell says.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And he produced a lot of records, gospel records. He produced like 17 songs on All Lives on Me, all type of shit. Yeah, like, dog of beast. So he also, he had pastor. So. Definitely. It's good going to church. God bless, trust in Jesus.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And he was like, I was like, I'm fighting between, like, I want to do bullshit. And he was like, you might not be fighting right and wrong. wrong, like it might be the right thing to go do some bullshit, but it might not be the wise thing, which is what you're saying. So he's like, you might be fighting right and wise. Like, you might be right. Like, your intentions might be right, everything, but it's a wise thing to do.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So since he said that to me and I felt like he wasn't judging me, I was just locked in with him because it was like another person would have been like, man, the Bible says don't do this, this, this, and that. I'm judging you of you. And he was like, you might not be right or you might not be wrong. Is it wise, though? And I had to really think.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And that helped me with my album processing everything. I was just sitting in there thinking and shit and that shit really kept me out a lot of trouble. You know, Bryce until Chris Brown hit record, one of the biggest records in the world. Talk about that, man. How do you even get in the room with these guys? Well, I met Chris Brown through T. Grisley.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That was hard, like a few years ago. No, I met Chris Brown through Sider, baby. When I was hanging with Sada all the time. Shout to Sada all the time. Shout out to Sada for show Big Brum. Then I got with T. Grizzling. He took me to his rehearsal. Then I locked in with Chris Brown.
Starting point is 00:31:44 So over the years, I just been seeing him and shit. And every time he see me, he showed me love. Then one time I was at a show with Bryson Tiller. And Brice and Tiller told me he fucked with my shit. So then, shout out to Hit Maker because I was working with Hitmaker. He's like, boom. I got this record. So,
Starting point is 00:32:05 Bryce and Tiller and Chris Brown went on the record or first or nothing. So then we had just figuring it out. I just did my verse on the record. I had wrote my version of shit. And then I was like, I told him who I wanted on there.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So then Bryce and Tiller wasn't even the first person I wanted on there. I said, Chris, he was supposed to do the hook on the shit. But then Bryce and Tiller ended up doing it. We end up somehow getting Bryce and Tiller to do the hook. I was like, I still need Chris on this bitch.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Because Bryce and Tiller going to take me to the top. I need to go over the top. We need to blow the roof off this bitch. So then I just kept seeing Chris. I really ain't had the courage at first because Chris, my man. Like, I just fuck with him.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I don't be fucking with niggas for records or fucking with niggas just for them to do something. Then I just seeing him a few times and I built up the courage. I'm like, damn, can you do this for me? I'm like, yeah. And eventually, he ended up doing it for me.
Starting point is 00:33:02 He just called me and hit backer on the phone and motherfucking with the verse and shit. That shit was like, I was like, man, because it's really like, as an artist,
Starting point is 00:33:12 it's hard to get. The hardest people that get to do stuff for you is rappers. It don't be the singers and the R&B nings and the biggest niggers
Starting point is 00:33:21 in the world. They just be genuinely fucking with you. I didn't heard rappers tell me 250, all type of shit. And it's like, I mean, you might be work for him, but it's just like, I would like working with people that is genuine with love.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Like, I don't, we do the same thing, so I don't want to have to buy you, buy you. Like, I mean, I will, I'll do the business if it makes sense, but I'd just rather it just be genuine. And it's just genuine with CB, like, dog, dog one of the coolest people I met in the industry for real. Right. It's genuine with dog.
Starting point is 00:33:56 He genuinely on what he own. He's not, he's unapologetic. It's so every time it don't matter if it's a hundred bitches in the room, whatever niggas in the room, he's shaking my hand the same way. He's standing on that shit. He fuck with me. So I just fuck with bro. Same thing with 50, like, it don't matter who around.
Starting point is 00:34:15 He showed me the same love, same thing with y'all. Y'all show me the same love. It don't matter. Muff-in'pocket president could be in the room. So that's why I just, I'm a genuine person like that, so I value that. You know what I'm saying? So that type of shit, I just love. Like, most of my records on.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Like all my records on his album was like that. Like it was just genuine and organic. How was the collaboration with Wiz Khalifa? I heard the record. It was fired. That was on the movie. That was on the movie set. When we did the movie set for Moses, the Black,
Starting point is 00:34:46 Wiz Khalifa just was cool as hell. He stopped me before the movie. Dog was like, he said something. And he was like saying something about my music. And I was really being quiet around him because I'm like, this weird. He stopped me and said, I'm like damn whiz know who I'm is that shit was that shit fucked me up and then the whole
Starting point is 00:35:06 movie said we're just kicking in and chopping it then I just like I got a record for you and he he really did that shit in like a week that shit was fire shelter whiz shout out the way I mean the first time I went miss califa I was in on Atlantic records man he was just walking by smoking in the label nigger walked in the room was like oh shit murder What's up? I fuck with you. Gave me a dab for smoking his blunt. Just kept walking out. Well, dude, I was in their jean.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? I'm like, yo, y'all smoke. You're like, well, where's smoking here? I was like, oh, wow, just walking around the building. He is, though. Where's the Snoop smoke everywhere? But I'm about to be like that. That's how you gonna be yet?
Starting point is 00:35:48 One of these kids up, man. I'm about to be like that. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello! My gosh. Watch all your favorite podcasts from start to finish. Start to finish, right inside the free IHR Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:36:19 Search video podcasts and tap watch. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:36:43 My first thought is like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalinka. Shoutouts to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi.
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Starting point is 00:37:28 Shakira. Luke and Ierrin. And Meera and Gracie! I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed. You have surprises? Many surprises. Welcome to Sweet 305, where the group chat comes to life.
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Starting point is 00:38:18 on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jake Brennan, and on the Discrace Land podcast, I explore the wild lives of rock stars and unbelievable true crime stories from music history. These are the stories you have.
Starting point is 00:38:33 haven't heard, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. Like the time Paul McCartney spent in one of the world's most notorious prisons. Imagine that. You're Paul McCartney. It's 1980. You're an ex-Beatle, and you're doing time in one of Japan's worst prisons right there alongside Yakuza gangsters and for a ridiculous charge. Or the bizarre crime Lady Gaga is accused of.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Who is the artist Lady Gaga as being accused of doing the unthinkable to after allegedly stealing her music in style to become famous? And what about that time, Blondie's Debbie Harry escaped a serial killer? The man who had given her that ride she barely escaped from was Ted Bundy. Listen to Discraseland on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I see you're talking about acting a lot, man. you're about to be in this power origin. How that shit feeling? What's that experience like?
Starting point is 00:39:34 No, that's her. Shout out to 50 in Rocket. Definitely, man. But they don't know. Tell them about acting classes. People just think 50 just choose people, right? Randomly just to be, yo, you an actor, yo, yo, don't. You're doing your shit.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Talk about the acting, the acting classes and the process you go through. I've been in acting class for like the last two years. Rocket put me in that shit. Shout out my nigga Sam too. He linked me with Rocket. That's how I got cool with Rocket. I was seeing them and passing.
Starting point is 00:40:00 and shit. My nigger Sam linked me with Rocket and Rocket really was just chopping it with me at first and then I was like, no, I really want to do this shit. I'm like, you really want to do this shit? We got to do acting class. We ain't going to get no roles for like four years, three years. I told his ass man. Like I went on some, like I'm skilled baby shit. I was on something like, you don't know me. Like I'm a nigger that when I put my mind to do something, I'm a blow past everybody. So he ain't really know I was gonna lock in. I was doing like class like three times a week. That shit was like 150 every time. I was just doing that shit. That shit was just like and I started falling in love with the shit. So then we ain't even till 50. Like he's like we ain't even going to
Starting point is 00:40:48 tell 50. We just gonna show him. And then one day we just, he was like, yeah, dog been in acting classes for like six months or some shit. he told 50. He's like, word, blah, blah, blah, just keep working. And then, nigga just kept working. It wasn't on no intent to, like, make somebody notice how it was working. So then 50 just called one day like, man, take him to IAG, which is on the agency and shit.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But it was also Yeo in the midst of that shit, Yale was like, man, you need to, this before the acting class. Don't get that. No props, please, man. I'm telling you. Damn, man. I'm going to appreciate he's here today. Go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Gaskelerfish the story, man. I got to tell the truth, though. All right, but I just say, all right, go ahead. Yeah, like, man, you need to do this, this and that, though. He was saying that shit. Like, man, you need to get on that shit. Like, what the fuck is you waiting for? Like, you're talking to me like that.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Like, we have shows and shit. Like, we had eight-buggy shows and shit. He still says this shit. Like, man, what the fuck is you wait for you? I'm screaming. You see the dick of Michael Rady. He's seen a dick. He's like, you see the nigga, Mike Rady?
Starting point is 00:41:59 He's like, you see the little mitch, man. Look at him, man. This nigga acting and shit, not, man. So I told you how much them checks was and shit like that. He started saying, oh, okay. I was like, this shit making sense. And then I was like, yeah, I'm kind of decent at this shit. So I just kept working and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And then, like, I started just keep working and kept working. I was getting all. I actually text 50. Like, man, I'm feeling stagnant and rapping and shit. Like, man, this shit, like, because you know as a rapper, like, y'all are rappers and shit. So, you know, it gets to a moment, a point, like, it don't matter how successful you will. This shit be feeling the same. Like, I'm just feeling the same off this shit.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like, man, this shit getting boring. But you write hits, so it shouldn't be boring for you. I don't get that. But I had text that, man, and he was like, word, I'm going to have something for you soon. next week he had me an audition for one of the biggest shows in the world. And I ain't get it, but it was just like, damn, niggas don't even get to self-take for this show. Like, I couldn't, I don't even want to say it
Starting point is 00:43:06 because I don't want niggas to be thinking like, like, I know how many oops I'd be getting. Like, that was a crazy oop. He threw me a crazy oop. Like, you know, that's why, like, a nigger can't say nothing wrong about you all to me for real. Niggas know that. Skills pay the bills, man.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Skills pay the bills. No, facts. Because I look at it like this. To me, like you could have bars, but to me it's like melodies and dope hooks is, that's it. Once you got that, it's different to me. I just told Rocket that yesterday. You could spit.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But when you, like when you hit thick ones, so many bitches, so many bitches, I just want thing one. That shit. Videos crazy. Mm-hmm. And Rock is telling me about all these videos that you want to do. When I watch Dick one, it's like. Where do you pick the girls from, too?
Starting point is 00:43:57 That's the number one question. I didn't pick the girls for that one. You had some things in there, the visuals, crazy. It was just sick video. You directed that yourself or? No, I didn't direct that one. I helped a little bit while I was on set. But my new videos are going to be out of this world.
Starting point is 00:44:17 My new inspirations is from old movies and hip-hop moments in hip-hop. So I want to recreate moments in hip hop in my videos and old movies. So you played the part with the creative process with these new ones you're talking about? Yeah, for sure. Got you. Got you. They all start with me, like, what I wanted to do. We get somebody to get a treatment and I, like, curated and, like, make it to what I wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:44:42 But it all start with my idea. Like, I want, like, all older movies that girls like, you know, all hip hop moments that make, like, like some nostalgic moments that make, like, because I got a real rap album coming out. So I want like real hip hop heads and people that have been listening to rap for a long time to be like, all right, when I see this moment, I was right here back in the day.
Starting point is 00:45:07 In 96, I was here. In 2005, I was here. When this movie came out, I was Derek. How was it working in the studio with Nas, man? I mean, when, you know, that was something different for me. I'm like, you know, I know you good at the hooks and stuff like that, and I know you got bars. Because I know you'd be on the Graham spitting and shit, but I just was like, damn, me in the studio with Nyes?
Starting point is 00:45:25 What the fuck, but what's cooking on? My president, shout out dad. He linked us because I'm supposed to get Nyes on my shit, too. But he linked us and Noges just took a liking to me. I was talking about Nize album and shit. And me helping with Nile's album. I helped him with some ideas. It was cool.
Starting point is 00:45:45 That was fire. And then he was telling me stories from back in the day and shit. Like, that's why I like kicking him. with the other stuff. That was dope. Hearing those stories, like I can't, I don't, I went here in 96. Right. So like, I'd be wanting to hear shit like, man, in 95 this was going on, like with your
Starting point is 00:46:04 favorite person. Like, man. Nine five, nine six, that was like the big of the Jay Z eras and all that. You know what I'm saying? 95 was definitely a good, yeah, that was, you know, the get money era, niggins who still get money in the 90s. I want to hear how Timble would put it. Timber when we're putting up to the club.
Starting point is 00:46:21 But you gotta understand. For me, them moments like, I remember like shook ones coming on. Like, you ain't a crook, son. When that first came out, niggas get robbed. Niggas get punched in their face, eight balls getting jacked. Pellie Pelley, Pelley's back there. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was just, I ain't even gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Like even with Onyx. I remember when onyx, like. Everybody waiting for sticky. They had to throw away guns in the air. Niggas was buying their first gun. little two fives or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Oh, your gun's in the air.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Like, it was just, it was crazy back then, too. Just like he always said, it just wasn't no cameras. Same shoe was going on. I kind of wish I was back then, though. I would have been that thing back then. I ain't gonna like to tell you. No cameras. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Your Yans is fucking everything up. Y'all fucking everything up. Like, niggas don't want to go party. Like, it was different because think about it. Think about this. It was no Instagram. Niggas have a phone, maybe a flip phone in the 90s, in the 80s, you know, 90s,
Starting point is 00:47:22 niggas really had beepers, too. You know what I'm saying? Then the Omni points and all that shit came out. Feel me? But, nigga, I was in jail when camera phones came out. 205, yo, they got the camera phone out now. No what I'm saying? I was in jail.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Niggas ain't have all that shit. So when you go to a party, niggas is dancing. DJs is killing the shit. Ain't, she used to be crazy, bro. Backyard parties, block parties. Them shit's really ain't get shot up like that. Now, shit totally different. You can't really even-
Starting point is 00:47:52 Now, parties got shot up back in the door. I mean, they did. Some of the niggas. No, no, parties got shot up to the motherfucker. I know, no, they didn't. He got to fuck up. Trust me. No, no.
Starting point is 00:48:02 What I'm saying is. No. You know, it's crazy. Look, you know what's crazy. Look, more shit happened back then. You think so? That's why I was, I was about to tell you that. I was not saying.
Starting point is 00:48:12 You know, no, no. No, no. No, no. More murders in Detroit back in the day than I. Way more. But you know what I'm saying is. Nowadays we got social media. But still, but look.
Starting point is 00:48:21 So things get highlighted more. That's all it is. Okay, I agree with you. She was getting shot up, but back in the days, right, drug dealers had bus trips. Donnie Paul. You write about that. They did do things. What that got to do it, what that got to do is little niggas being violent.
Starting point is 00:48:37 The niggas now, no, hold on. The skimmers, hold on. You said he tried to throw it off, right? Oh, yeah, it was more shootings. But, yo, but the drug dealers you didn't have bus trips. No, we took. No, we took. Listen.
Starting point is 00:48:48 We took. You talk about old niggas with 20 bodies and shit. You ain't never heard none of these young niggas got 20 bodies. These niggas had 20 bodies. When you say the 80s and 90s, this is what I'm trying to say to you. It's a classic time. And I'm going to tell you why. Like before BET, you know a BET, right?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Before MTV, right? So you just ask him if he know what BET is? Yeah, he's younger. You telling me I'm black. Yo, Jay is crazy. He tells me I'm crazy. You know, sir. He's crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I'm bugging on him. Well, no, I have to say. D.T was back in the days. That was 205. He was on that shit. Yo, you know. We was on that shit, 205. Look, what year you was born?
Starting point is 00:49:32 98. He was born 98. He was nobody cool. He knows. Okay, thank you. But he was like six watching us on that shit. He was six watching. I was watching your own.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah. Now look. You see, you making me think my train of thought. No, but look. Now, look, when you think about the good old days, right, The only place you could watch, like, niggas don't give this man his props, but Ralph McDaniels is a big part of hip hop because when he was kids, it was only video music box. That shit, come on.
Starting point is 00:50:01 D-D-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. That's shit, come on. You're going to see Run the MC-Lite. You're going to see Queen Latifah. There was no other channel. That was the beginning of hip-hop for me. Niggas with the big change. And they was just copying the drug dealers, because the drug
Starting point is 00:50:18 I love dealers had that shit too. So the big change, went, so I always, you know, say Queens, I love Brooklyn, but run DMC, hands down my favorite group. Seeing them motherfuckers on that shit, walk this way with Bon Jovi. That's the first group to be on MTV as a rap group. Run DMC from Queens. Shout to Brooklyn, but from Queens, no beef. Okay, all right, all right, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But that's why I get excited when you say, yo, I want to do shit from the 80s and the 90s, you know what I'm saying, shit like that. I understand. Because for me, that's a nostalgic time. The MVP, niggas started getting the drop top benzes. When Big said to drop three in the quarter, I've seen niggas coming through my block and that. Three in the quarter.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I'm like, oh, shit, drop top three. That's why, like, the drug billers. No, not to glorify it now. They was our hero. That was my heroes back in the days. Drug dealers. No, for sure. That was in Detroit, like, for a long time.
Starting point is 00:51:14 That's how we measured success, though. It was the most successful people. I have Maserati Rick, all kinds of niggas out. Fucking get money in Detroit. That's a get money place. And it's a rough place to live with. Niggas always going to look nice, have some money, jury, girls going to have their hair done. Detroit clean up nice.
Starting point is 00:51:32 For sure. You know what I'm saying? They know how to get to the bags. You know what I'm saying? So the hustle reminds us to New York. Every time I came out there, now Detroit niggas, a lot of Detroit niggas can rap and get money. Like that shit is just, it reminds me in New York. It's a little more grime here.
Starting point is 00:51:46 You think Detroit, more grimy, than New York? Yeah. Y'all like number two on the murder capital. Memphis is number one. But- I come visit y'all on the BP or something. Bulletproof.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's grimy everywhere. Not. New York is grimy, man. For one, New York is grimy. For one, New York is grimy. Like, man, New York is grimy, but Detroit is like, Detroit is like blocks with you.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Like, I've been on blocks in Detroit. Like, I went to Detroit, right? Niggas took me to a bodega. Like, bodega. It's like some movie shit. Went to the bodega. You know what I'm saying? A rap nigger came back.
Starting point is 00:52:20 He was like, yo man, I've seen some black niggas, man. I was gonna shoot you up down. He was cool though. He was cool with him. He was gonna grab the AK. Moms was cooking in the back. Mad pounds. That shit was like some training day shit.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Like, you what the fuck? How the shit going on over here? Like Detroit is different. Whole other world. So y'all ain't got that going on here. Nah, in the back of the bodega, but that shit was just crazy out of that shit. Should be going on here. It's good.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah, shit going on everywhere. But, Detroit is going on here. Like, certain blocks, there ain't no lights. Like, you know, you know, block is lit up. Nah, it's dark. You go on the blocks and shit, dark, nigga. You ain't seen police or nothing. That's because y'all ain't really got houses here and shit.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Like, we got houses. We got houses, yeah, but. But y'all got like- This thing are buggin'is. No what I'm saying? Like our projects is like town houses and houses and shit. Got you. Y'all got buildings and shit.
Starting point is 00:53:13 We don't really live in buildings. Like, we don't, like, I don't, like, I don't know too many people live in apartments. I know, like, that's why I, my first thing was a big-ass house I purchased, because I don't want to live in no condor or nothing. I want to live in the house. That's what I grew up in.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Like, y'all got buildings and shit. So you would be beefing with a nigga on the 12th floor. We beefing with niggas from around the corner. So you gotta get in a striker and go spinning a nigger on his floor. Your old shit used to be, yeah, no, yeah. Yeah, biffing with a nigger on the same floor, nigger. Y'all coming around.
Starting point is 00:53:46 around the hallway and shit. We come around blocks. We gotta go spinning a nigga block and really get put feet on land. Y'all do too, but y'all in buildings and shit. Like, y'all ain't gotta go buy a car and go do all this shit. Y'all niggas pull right up to the building.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Stand outside all day till the nigga come outside. Surprise. In front of their building, we go to the next building to go creep on niggas, vice versa, and shit like that. Go poking, nigger, while you walking past. We can't do none of that shit. I'm not about none of that gentleman right now.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I know we get into money. I'm not advocating none of that, y'all right here. Shout to the volume. Podcasts are you different. We put in pain too, man. Podcasts. Yeah, you're different. Boo.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Podcasts. There you go here. Boo. Podcast. Yeah. Got to change. We got to have that pain talk to some time. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Statue of limitation. He just told me, I got Swiss cheese. He just said, my man, got Swiss cheese. You got shot, then when they get about shooting the ops, you want to say, hold up. It just got crazy a little bit. Y'all was gonna be.
Starting point is 00:54:52 The nigga talking about thinking when the bullets was coming through the bullets. So what was you thinking when the bullets was coming through the car, Sculler? But now you want to say, hold up, gentlemen. Shout out the hard rock bet. I'm saying, y'all went to poking it up and, you know. So, man.
Starting point is 00:55:09 This is real life. That happens, man. It's all good. It happens. We eat smoked duck in Morocco. Stop talking. You're in front of man. Shit, we ain't always a Barago, you know, we're right here in the hub.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Take it from the guy I got a pool in his back y'all. This is bullshit, man. I love the pool. Yeah. You used to be on a lot of the freestyles in the car to, where you were going to go get back to that a little bit? Yeah, I'm working on my album right now. Yeah, I'm just trying to be like a little bit,
Starting point is 00:55:39 take some access from people a little bit. Right now. So I can just focus on my album and shit. Me and so young, how you say professional, like on a movie set? Like, what have you learned? Like, what advice can you give the young ins out there about being on movie set, like on time and all that shit? Being on time and it's important.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Having a good attitude, being a team player, making everybody comfortable, always bringing good energy, positive energy, lead all bullshit at home. Don't come to work with nothing from home. like as far as attitude or wearing that on your, just make everybody feel comfortable and let everybody do their job and do your job. Don't try to do everybody.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Everybody is important. It don't matter what role they is. It's like cast, crew, production, lights, the driver. Everybody is important. DAs and just make everybody feel like they of importance and they somebody on set. Right. Because they are really, so, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Definitely. A thousand percent. Facts. Everybody goes into making this film a success, whether it's a movie or a TV show. So you just come with professionalism, courtesy, and shit like that. And then you will be good for real
Starting point is 00:56:59 because a lot of this shit, like everything will be politics. So you might be a less, you might not be Denzel Washington, but he might not be Denzel Washington either. But y'all both ain't Denzel Washington, but he's an asshole and you're not. They're going to pick you.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You know what I'm saying? How was he working on my apps on Moses, man? Oh, that was hard. I learned a lot of game from bro. And he, I was thinking like he was going to be one of them actors that was like standoffers and shit. He was real like cool and was talking to us and shit. Gave me game about acting. So that was cool.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Well, I think about his juice when I see him. But show. Juice and love basketball. Bags, love it basketball. So I asked him about the movies. So I just. I asked him about the movies. Just like when I see the Mn's tea, you know, old dog.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Old dog, my God. You still calling them old dog. Classics. Them classic movies. And he was telling me like he ain't make that much money off them, but just like. So that was cool to know. Niggas biggest movies, they didn't even make that much bread off of it. But after you put in that pain, like you know what I'm saying, people put you in other
Starting point is 00:58:06 shit and you make money. So just knowing that the longevity is what we we striving for. That was like what I learned through, like, acting. Like, it's longevity. It ain't about just getting in it and getting out of it. Like, you got to want to do this for, like, you could rap to you, 40, 30, whatever. You could act to you 100. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:29 It's always a role for somebody. You could be a granddaddy. You could be a court justice. You could be anything. So you can do active forever. And as long as you build up your brand and your resume, you will keep getting paid more and more. You know what I like about your music? It's like, your music is like, I want to just say it's just for the female.
Starting point is 00:58:47 So when I'm in a club, I'm rocking to it too. Like, the beats is crazy. The hooks is crazy. The balls is crazy. So like on thick one, like, I fuck with that. I'm bumping that in a car. Of course. I'm already more.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Of course. It's not like you just rapping just for the ladies. Like, I feel like any rapper that could make music that guys and girls like, I think that that's that make you crazy. like a scissor, for instance. We'll listen to Cizzer. I fuck with Cid. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:17 I fuck with Cesar. Like she make music. Shut out the Cizzer. She'll make music for the women but dudes be feeling it too. I fuck with Cizzer. I ain't gonna fresh. Sexy Red like that too.
Starting point is 00:59:26 No, she heard. She had a sexy red. I had a, I had a like a phase where I would play all sexy red. Oh, sexy red. You heard that sex? You have my boy playing all your shit.
Starting point is 00:59:38 See, for me, for me, I'm gonna keep it real. It's the beef. So what's her producer name again? Takeekeet? Yeah, that nigga. Whenever he make a beat. Yeah, it's not even what she's saying all the time.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's how she make a nigga feel on that bitch, like hyper-teal. It's simple. I like sexy rap, but with Takee, when he make a beat, it's just, you know what, that's like Greg John with Chef G and him. What's your favorite? What producers you use, by the way? Because you always got crazy beats. I use all the type of. I started off with J.C. from Detroit.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Detroit, he like a hitting gym. Hitmaker, one of my favorites right now. Boogs the beats work with Kanye. He hard. Go gris, crazy beats. I got this one nigga from Florida, his name, Zay Hard to Seal. Hell of a hard.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I'd be fucking with a lot of people. I'll be trying to make my shit sound different every time, so I don't be trying to just, like, I lock in with my producers, but I got to like have different sounds. So but now my new process, I want you to come to the studio and build this bitch from scratch though.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Like how I did my album, I want to do all my music like that. I gotta build this bitch from scratch. Like I gotta produce on it too. Like I gotta, I gotta be a producer on it because I gotta tell you how I'm feeling and what I want to go into it now. You want to be there with the producer
Starting point is 01:01:06 picking out the sounds and all that stuff like that. For sure. Got you. Got you. And you gotta think about he got, he got music that is not only just for radio, it's like all the women, when they do their rills, they play his music. So every time you go up on Instagram, you just hear them, you hear them, you see, you know, beautiful women. Oh, oh, oh, you know, everywhere. Just like, oh, shit, playing his records.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Like, everything is just like, I hit, I hit. My soul, Mary Mary going to change the world. Oh, shit. Mark my words, I just said that. Cool. My shit gonna change the world that one, for show, thousand percent. It's not like... People ain't gonna expect that one.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It's not like a hip-hop record with a gospel person on it, and it's not like a gospel record with a hip-hop person on it. It's like a real record. Like, it's a real collaboration. It's not... Real life record. It's got a meaning. Yeah, it's got like one of them...
Starting point is 01:02:02 We are the real meaning to it. Like, feels and vibes. Like, they got one of those to where, like, when you hear it you're going to automatically feel like happy you're going to feel um relieved all the type of stuff like it's one of those for sure you want to do a record like that before i even met her i had did the record um i was just searching to make one i was just getting inspired by a lot of stuff and then i was searching to make a record like this and then i finally We had got a beat that inspired me to do this shit.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And I had like a theme for it and shit. And then I just was writing a little bit at a time. I wrote a verse. I liked it. Then I put the choir on it. Then I just kept adding pieces to it, took some pieces off. Kept working it. Care working it.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And then I got it to where I liked it. Then we got in the studio. I played it for my label. And that's when I was telling you, I got with Erica Campbell and her husband and stuff. And I went through that situation. There was like, damn, Erica Campbell can't get on this. And then when she got on it, she just made it.
Starting point is 01:03:17 That she brought it all the way together with the party. It made sense. Look at that. How is it working with Interscope? Shout to Interscope. You know, I love Interscope when we was there. We had a good time over there. Enterscope is one of the best labels to be at because you got a lot of resources at your hand.
Starting point is 01:03:33 It's a lot of big artists over there. And it'd be Interscope good for me because it might not be good for artists that just come in and trying to be here by day, going by night. Like, if you really want to work to be something, you probably want to go to Interscope because they're not going to really work your shit until they really see you ready to work your shit. So like right now, Interscope, ready to take me through the roof, like I'm saying. Take me to the moon because they see me putting the work in. So Interscope, one of the records where you got M over there, fifth over there, Kendrick Lamar over there, Drake was over there, all type of people at Interscope are big artists and medium artists, little artists. Yeah, TD, Kendrick.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yeah, so it's all the type of people over there at your resource. if you really put in and work and practice or craft. Definitely. Yeah, we definitely had some good times of Interscope. I remember one time having lunch on. I just stole some of your merch. Oh, no, definitely. Yeah, I did not rock.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I stole some of their merch. Stolled some of your merch from back in the day. We're glad to have you on the show. Interscope, I know, because you're from Detroit and you on a Cali team. But I had a good time over there, Jimmy Yvine, Dr. Dre. M&M, you know, me, banks, 50, you know, that shit.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Game 2, you know, buck. You can't leave them out because it was just a good time. The moments was just crazy for us. For me coming out of jail, like that- What's your favorite moments in hip-hop though, like that y'all went through? My favorite moment is always going to be free Yale because I was on Rikers Island.
Starting point is 01:05:24 So, you know, they kept the name alive while I was locked up. So, I mean, for me, I felt like, me in jail, I felt like Tupac on the Allen. Because it's only a couple of niggas that got to do interviews on the island. I think probably just me and Tupac. I don't know who else. But I got to do an interview on Rikers Island and the shit was crazy. Like everything was moving so fast.
Starting point is 01:05:44 50-did a million this first week. I'm in jail. I'm like, damn, it's crazy. You know, I get the call from Shady Records like, yo, um, yo, watch the Grammys tonight. You know, I ain't want to get stabbed over the TV and nothing. I ain't a PC. You know, Spanish niggas want to watch Caliente. Other niggas want to watch basketball and sports and all that.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You know how that go. Because, you know, when you locked up on the island, stay away from the newspaper, the phone. You just gotta play the games, politics in there. You know, you be in New York. So basically they call me, say, yo, Eminem going to do something at the Grammys. I ain't know what. He wore a free AO shirt. That shit had me hype.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Or I'm a C-73, too lower. Hyped is a motherfucker. So I'm like, damn, niggas is blowing up crazy. Because we had the streets on lock with the mixtapes. And then it was just crazy. Because, you know, that's what I like about niggas that can write hooks because I felt like Fifth always could write the hook. The hook is really the song.
Starting point is 01:06:43 It's really the song. You know what I'm saying? Like you can spit bars and then how you put, you know, bridges and stuff in there. I like that creativity. That's why I'm like, damn, like you, it's like you don't miss when you put out of record. Like the last shit with Doug, crazy. And you put out the other record, that's bubbling up. So it's like, I just know, like, when your album come,
Starting point is 01:07:07 I know you're going to have number one hits on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I already know, bro. You know that CB shit going to be the number one hit. Yeah, CB, Bryce and Tiller, like, that's going to be a smoke right there. That's hands down, you know what I'm saying? Because I know you a nigga that don't like to lose. I've seen you play basketball, Shreeport.
Starting point is 01:07:24 You know what I'm saying? Like, you didn't get the MVP? No, they gave it to Bud. No, Bud, God. No, Bud, God. It was a little political on me. Y'all made the game, though. You was cooking Gilly, too.
Starting point is 01:07:36 You was cooking Gilly. Yeah, Gilly couldn't check me. He was cooking Gilly. I slept on him, too. I slept on him, too, but he was cooking. Him and Gilly. Which one of your, oh, yeah, yo told me I could who. Nah, because I was like, Gilly, I know Gilly nice.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah, yo told me, Gilly was going to cook me. I told him, man, a 50-year-old. Never go-go-cooked. Yeah, but we got the switches, too. I'm like, damn, we just talking about basketball. You know Detroit niggas My nigga
Starting point is 01:08:03 Detroit niggas They be on time Before you told me Gilly was going to cook We whipped You dropped like what 2530 Yeah I had something like that
Starting point is 01:08:14 You was cooking I had a good time In Shreport man Shout up to them That was a good time You all had it going In the streetport I ain't gonna lie
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah What happened in Shreport Stay is in Shreport Yeah Let's go to streetport We're supposed to be Mike doing one in Vegas So we see how that work out.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Shout out to 50, you gotta come out to that. So with the Origin Powers, you just in like one episode or they got you in a couple episodes. They got me in a few of them. Okay, fire. And I'm gonna show my ass, they're gonna put me in more. Okay, okay. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Fire. Shout out to Power Origin. Shout out to the director, Rob. He heard. There's, shout out to 50, all of them. I really showed me little too. Like, and I don't be over there. I don't know skill of baby stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:59 stuff they all call me Trayvine and stuff by my real name. That's me. That's me. That's me. Who the fuck? That's his real name. Nah, I never heard his government. You know, I'm glad he said it because, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:10 That nigger shit is Marvin, all right? Why you're saying mob? I'm just letting my nigger know. Your shit is Leonard. I'm just like, all right, it's cool. Your shit is Leonard. Why are you letting me snow? I'm just glad my niggas out.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I'm just let my nigger down. I'm just let me know. I'm just told my nigger. That's all. What's going on, man? Leonard. Leonard. That's, man.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'm playing the grin. It's all good. Leonard. He's talking about his shit is Martin. Go on, Nick. Barber, but no, he's laughing. There's a lot of things. How many famous Leonard's you know, nigga?
Starting point is 01:09:41 I don't care. You're my man DeCaprio. That's Leonardo. It's not Leonard, nigger. Fuck out of here. You got a bright future, though, man. You know, it's crazy how, like, I look at your situation similar to 50 because it's like... Because you love got shot?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Yeah, because 50 got shot. Yeah. Yo, I can't, yo, come on out, go ahead, finish this stuff. This thing is crazy. Go ahead. They're not getting, see, he never let me finish. Go ahead, finish this story. Never let me finish.
Starting point is 01:10:11 You got to make a point. No, because you got shot. I'm not saying getting shot is a good thing. Nobody wants to get shot, you know what I'm saying? You got shot and it's like you and him got shot and y'all turned a negative thing into a positive thing. Because listen to the music, the aggression, and he's going, he's acting.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's like everything turned up when you did that. And it's like sometimes when somebody's going through pain in music, I always tell you that. You can say that. I see 50 go through that. When you go through pain and you come back and it's just like, yo, this niggas like Superman.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Know what I'm saying? Like, this nigga just, whatever, he's just acting now. Fucking real estate, nigga, motherfucking, moving crazy, bulletproof trucks now. He got all that shit now. You know what I'm saying? Motherfuck.
Starting point is 01:10:58 What? I'm just being real. You know what I'm saying? Bulletproof trucks now. Niggas moving. Like, how do fuck do you... Like, how do fuck do motherfuckers do that? Could take a negative and turn that shit into a positive? What gave you that drive?
Starting point is 01:11:12 I think that shit just being in you, though. Like, it's getting shot either put you up or turn you up. Like, that shit. Like, it's two different type of people in life. Like, you got fight or flight senses. So, like, that type of shit that make you want to go. Like, that shit, I got in this. gym after that shit early and everything like started working on my body praying more doing all
Starting point is 01:11:33 type of shit so i ain't gonna lie me and i could be saying that like that's like one of the best bullets i caught like and it's like it ain't funny but it really is like that shit changed my life mentally physically i'm better and bigger like it's everything i'm more focused so like i turn to negative to a positive like you said but i wouldn't want i wouldn't recommend nobody getting shot. This is just my situation and how I turn my situation into this. And it just showed me, like you said, how to move better. And maybe other people, I'd be saying I'm like God's guinea pig, though.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Like, I'd be feeling like God be putting me through shit to show other people because I'm big and young people life and stuff, kids and shit. And like, I ain't really trying to preach at no kids. I really just be trying to show kids. I went through this. you don't have to go through this. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can use,
Starting point is 01:12:32 because I'd use a lot of shit that people went through to avoid situations too. So since I'm going to be in kids' life and shit, I ain't going to make the choice for them, but I'm going to show them two choices. Like, and I think that's what God do for us. Like, he'll show you the door on the left,
Starting point is 01:12:47 show you the door on the right. Nigger, you can go through this dough. And it might be the same to get to the same spot, but, nigga, there's fire on this door, nigger and it steps on his door and the nigger might like it might be a little bit of fire and it might be the goal right here
Starting point is 01:13:04 but it might be a lot of steps and the nigger might not want to go up all of them steps but if you go up all them steps you come in you come through clean you're just a little tired you go through this fire your ass going to be burnt you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:13:17 so I feel like you just show like even with the kids I'll show you the fire and I'll show you the steps you don't have to go through the fire you could go through the steps, but, nigga, I got you, regardless. I ain't judging you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:13:32 Everybody bumped their head, but I'm just here to show you the options, you know what I'm saying? So I think God do that for me a lot. A lot of times I do choose the fire because I'm just a knucklehead. You know what I'm saying? But you're making better decisions now.
Starting point is 01:13:47 You make it better decisions. For sure. I take the steps now. You talked about giving back. Do you want to start a foundation or do you have one? Yeah, I have, um, Because you talk about giving out, what, 500-pared sneakers, you said?
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah, I just gave a lady a house for Christmas and shit. Oh, wow. Congratulations. Gave her one of my houses and shit. But I do that all the time. I don't have a foundation because I was just so caught up at like. Rock and get on it. How did that come about, though, you giving the lady a house?
Starting point is 01:14:12 Would you select it? You picked that you had like a. I be working with the mayor and stuff. And then when certain people be having situations that call me. Okay, got you. So they called me and I helped. Like, I did a gun buy back last year, like I told you all. gave them like 50,000 towards buying all the guns off the streets.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I'd be doing a lot of shit and it's don't be like I'd be wanting to be rewarded or no recognition for it. It's just because like I said, I used to look up to the dope men when I was little in. That's the type of shit. The older dope man used to do like, when the ice cream truck, everybody got ice cream. This house on the block ain't had water. He paid the water bill.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Like it just, it was shit I seen growing up that inspired me to do it. Got you. Thank you, man. Thanks for having you on the show, man. What's the name of the album? What's the name of the album? The price of fame. The price of fame, man.
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