Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Treach on Naughty By Nature breakup, touring With Tupac, dating Pepa, & the making of 'O.P.P'

Episode Date: August 16, 2026

Naughty By Nature legend Treach joins Tony Yayo, Uncle Murda and The Real Report crew for a candid conversation about why the group will never fully reunite, his business disputes with Vin Rock and DJ Kay Gee, and the lasting impact of “O.P.P.” Treach also recalls auditioning for Bishop alongside 2Pac, meeting Pac while they were roadies for Queen Latifah and Digital Underground, touring the world more than 35 years later, transitioning into acting, Jersey’s greatest MCs and why classic hip-hop continues to connect globally.Go to https://baskandlatherco.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, we did Zurich before. Zurich. I'm the only rapper to do the Swiss Alps. That's why these niggas be mad. You're the only one? I'm the first rapper to do the Swiss Alps. Who told you that? Fake news.

Oh. Fake news. Me and Pete Rock did that like nine years ago. Well, I'm after you. Because he always told me he the only one in the first one. Yo, I'm after you. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

You ain't seen. I'm third. They told you that was big foot's print. That was my. You said, you said, you. The feet. You said. He didn't get stabbed.

Right. Shut the fuck the. Go. Okay. Proven. Role! What you get movies with? Oh!

Bram! Yo, Brimble. Look. Go right. Got my video. I would get a little. I would get a one. I was a lot.

That's out. Out my. Listen. Go. Yeah. We got. Tretching the building. Legend is still here.

Jeeh Tretching the building, Nordy by nature, you know the vibe. Breaking news, real. Oh. We was talking about how, like, a lot of people try to, like, on the OGs and the legends. And these are the guys that's making the most money.

You know what I'm saying? They're still touring. When I go overseas, shout to J-Rue, the Damager. I don't seen boys the men out there. I don't seen care as one. Talk about you still touring, because I know you're about to headline

to tour with Bust Around. and a couple of other. Yeah, we've been out there. We've been out there right now. We did the UK. We did Germany going back out to Switzerland. So it's just an honor and pleasure. We out there is myself, Buster,

a terrorist one, onyx, genuine, shy, man. So it's like a noughty 90s run out this. Definitely, man. All over. And you said it was like a 20,000 capacity, man. 20,000. Oba Gold Festival. Fire.

Yeah, yeah. So we was just talking about like, back there, we was talking about like, like, when you dropped the record back in the days traditionally, the label do something if you didn't know called shipping. Like the label, you got hip hop parade. All right, that's doing it. Let's ship three, four hundred, right? Something like that.

Mm-hmm. Thousand. Right. Now what do you think? $400,000. And then when that sell out the label, know, to ship the other $300,400,000. It's like if you, if you got to connect. right, and you order in these keys,

you gotta get a down payment for him to bring them in. So that's the pre-order. Right. So the pre-game, yeah, that's how the labels did it. How do you feel about like bots and stuff like that, like where you can't really know what somebody really sold? Like, your merch could be a part of your selling bundle. Something else could be a part of the selling bundle of a record sale.

Hey, man. Hey, that don't sound like good negrossiations. That sounds like nigger business. from a white contract, you feel what I'm saying? Right. Like, I heard it's like something like you get a billion streams and $30,000. What?

If you got a penny for every fucking stream, you'd be okay. What? Somebody just giving you what they want to give you, who getting the major money. So the labels back then, they had to report the CDs, the vinyl, the cassette. You know what I mean?

So it was a record of what you was doing, because you had to buy those records to sell them. And it was paperwork. It was a trail. It was a receipt. Right. Man, I don't know no robot, R2D2 out this motherfucker, like the Jetsons. I can't track my shit.

Oh shit, you know what? You can't go for nobody in the label no more. You gotta go kill a computer. It's shit and change, right? It's crazy. Shit doesn't change. Yeah. Can't anybody say he ain't come up here chasing me for no check.

Facts, he got to talk to the bots. The bots. Ain't that fucked up? That talk to the bots, man. That's crazy. Crazy. But back then, you could track everything. Well, you know why IST doing?

That's my guy, and he's a genius. Shout out to IST. Shout out to the OJ. Shout out to ICT. Right now, he's putting out his first album in decades, criminal migraine, double album. Oh, shit. And you could only get it on icedy.com.

Oh, look at that. No streaming platforms, nothing. He's tracking everything go direct. So he's like, all my fans, all my riders, to get this one, come straight to me. It ain't nowhere else. So it's cutting out the bots. That's dope. Okay.

Okay, I see you. That's dope. Yeah. So we were talking in the back, man. And you know, we got to ask you what's up with KG and Vinnie, man. We all fans are naughty by nature. Yeah. And, you know, my man Harlem legend was saying, yo, I don't see them together.

Like, what the fuck is going on? And I was like, that's a good question, because I haven't seen y'all together in a good while. Yeah, yeah. Well, that kind of, it kind of like broke a homie heart. You know what I mean? Because I always said up until this day, right here, I always said, well, Norty, I can't say if we get back together.

Not the future, whatever it tells, boom. I could tell y'all right now. It'll never happen. Damn, yeah. Why you say that? Yeah. Once you get stabbed in the back, Once or twice, the wound could heal maybe.

You might, especially if you sandbox. Once you keep cutting the wound and then doing behind-the-back business deals. And to this day, when it was always in my mind, it might have happened, I got to have a homie calling my management, my agents, promoters. Oh, no, that ain't naughty by nature. You have a case if y'all don't, I had to go through my lawyers, treachery naughty by nature and them of norty by nature, all that's three ways. We could do it however we want.

Right. Don't try to kick my bag. Got you. Right. I ain't saying nothing out there about to y'all about nothing on no teddy beer tours. Right. What do you mean teddy beer tour? They got a teddy bear mascot.

They ain't me under the teddy beer suit. Oh. Oh. Oh, so they got a fake trech out there. No, no, no. It's a DJ with a teddy bear suit on. Oh, okay, got you. And they got microphone.

Got you, got you, got you, okay, got you. But how do KG and Vinny do a show without trench? No, it's like a DJ set. Oh. So, but the game is like it's naughty until you get there. But how all this is started? But over money, what money was the issue, money fucked everything up, man? No, it's not.

It was playing positions. They couldn't take that you was like joy and they didn't want to be like pipping and robbing and shit like that. When for the rest of their life, if you see written by Norty by Nature on all the albums, it's because we get a third of writers credit when I wrote everything.

My homies got lifetime and kick my back in. So it's the industry. You know, you live in. So you fighting for your rights, though, right? Because you could sell that catalog down the line. I got my rights. Yeah, I know, yeah, congratulations to that, man.

And we passed for Pippin. Passport Pippin. That's right. That's right. Worldwide. Because Storm, no, that, um, Norty by Nation catalogs sell, it's going to be a big bag. Nice. Because you gotta think that when you look at OPP, those for hip hop, what makes it big is like,

I always talk about Run DMC was like the first group, I believe, on MTV. Like, yes. What made your story crazy is like, y'all came from Jersey. but y'all conquered everywhere, even New York. Like, I remember, you down with OPP? Like, that was, like, the first massive crossover record in hip hop where kids was playing it. You seen it in movies. You seen it here.

It's still lasting forever. Like, it's a record that's not going to know it. Hold on. So I'm the merch that's still popping. We got OPP merch still. Merts still. Stick on an ass. O.

Day, if we have two. The purchase stickers are selling. But yeah, you can sell a sticker for $100. $100, $100, $100,000, meeting greets. Yeah, what was the idea with the big-ass chain? Because that made you stood out, too. Like, what was the big-ass chain that you used to have, man? The chain always represented my homies that was locked down.

All right, got you. Whenever they seen that, they knew I was rapping. I'm like, shout out all the homies, roadway, Trent State, Anedale, you know, Jamesburg, jurors. you know what I mean, they seen the chain. And the ill shit, every time I walked in the club, I walk in with the chain.

So if it was a problem, take that bitch off and get busy. This is a bottle of all. What? That was a good question. What? But getting back to OPEF. Yeah, yeah.

Because that, like I said, it was a record you've seen in movies. Uh-huh. It was likable to the kids. Yeah. Barbecue. M.T. The barbershop.

MTV. It was a, cross over record that even went to overseas and went to Europe. What's the process of making that record? How'd you come up with it? How'd you think about it? And when you know it was a fucking hit. Look, in the hood, it was a homie, big homie move around.

So he was on the ass and he used to come around like, yo, I'm down with OPM. He was like, what's that? Other people money. So on the joke, it was like, we down with OPP. Other people, pussy. whole block, they gave a track to me or son I started, I said,

nigga, I'm gonna write a other people pussy records. So it wasn't nowhere near. We wouldn't know how to make a pop record. It was a Michael Jackson, ABC sample, Jackson 5. K put substitution under there, put his production skills on that,

gave me the track. Instead of just rhyming over it, I said, It's, you know, we from the concepts on some. Of course, of course. So, OPP. Look at that. You know what OPP?

Yeah, you know me. And then I had a call and response because we came out 91. In the 80s, a lot of records was just a scratch hook. Mm-hmm. But we knew from parties when nobody knew us, we had to have a call and response. So we put it on record. Like, hey, ho.

Like put the crowd the way we want them to happen. Yeah, but OPP was crazy because it was like kind of like a relationship record. Like, you know what I mean? You're taking a nigger girl. You're taking, you're taking this woman. So it was crazy and the woman was saying, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Yeah.

So it was a dope record that kind of like was a crossover and just still here. How fast it took y'all to make that? Man, not long. Because I like writing like right there, everything there. I say, give me 16. 16 bars, give me a minute of the bar. 16 minutes, I had 16. So it was always writing

because we had the studio pack. Everybody was in there. Yo. It just... Afro, Salima, they used to dance for, like, major hip-hop groups and anything. Afro was in there,

and we was like, we need a girl to say, yeah, you know me. Yeah. So we double trip to trip. You know what I mean? To get the ladies, once you hear,

the ladies like, boom. And the second verse was for the ladies. Other people penis. Right. So they asked, yeah, yeah. Everybody got in and got a piece of it. And, yo, after they found out what the song was, they was looking for, they was bleeping shit out.

We had to do edited versions on what it spells out to be. Other people's property. That was the, you know. Clean version for the shit. Other people's. My OPP initials just stayed out there. Look at that. And then, yo, let me ask you a question.

Because I know back in Queens, like in the clubs, they used to say, hey, ho, hey. Was you at Queens? Like, did you get that from Queens? S&L stuffed in London, Jamaica. No. Queens went again. Queens always went. But we heard that like in a gang of clubs.

It was like a thing you do. You know how you say, say, oh, say out. Try to get him. Like, hey, no, he was like in Queens. No, but they said you was in Quinn. I heard he was in Queens. You ain't gonna give him that. He's, no, he gotta give me that.

You know what? That sounds about right. I never, all I'm saying is, look. You see, Andreks, that sounds about right. That sounds about right, my nigger. That sounds about that was like, yo, Tretz used to be in Queens all the time in the hood, fucking with niggins.

And something in Linden. And something in Linden and LFAM niggas and all them niggas used to be in the club. And they used to, oh, hey, oh, hey, I didn't hear it in any of a barrel. I just heard it in Queens. Because you was in fucking Queens. Exactly. You might not fit in Queens deep, heavy in them streets.

You wasn't going to burrow to burrow. You going to hear it out there. I was going to burrow. I was going to burrow. He was. He was going to burrow back in days. He just, my man heard that only in Queens. Yeah, he only heard.

That's a real live queen. But you was in Queens though. So that was something to motivate. Left rack. Shout out. Left rack. Something. What's up, Uncle Wise?

You know what I got to ask you, man. Because when, like I said, the thing about you is everything is legendary. Thank you. It's classic. From the music to the movies. To this day, I still watch Jews. Thank you. You know, I didn't like Rotter Man's too much.

I don't know why you was fucking with Roder Man. Because I was, I was Dominican. I was from the Heights. I was with the Spanish gang. Adio, me, oh, man. Yeah. But you were supposed to be Bishop. No, no.

I read for the role. Okay. Same time, Park Reds for the World. Oh. Okay. Park went to school factor. Got you. So he had the edge on you.

Did he? That nigga had the edge on you. Nigger. I was done. I was in there reading like, uh, where you, uh, God, right of me. Yeah, like he went up in there. I thought he was fighting.

I come to the door. He walked out. I'm like, yo, nigga, what's up? He's like, no, I just read for the roll. I said, nigga, you got that. That motherfucker. You had me a believer. I knew it from the door.

So this is what type nigger he was. He's like, you know what? Somebody just take his phone? Because that shit just keep going on, phone, it's like, it's going to start picking it up. I got it. I'll just turn it off. Yeah, that's something I can do right now.

And that shit vibrate mad. Man, now. That's going crazy. I thought it was in the low. Oh, now what you, now? Oh, that shit sound like a beeper, yo. It was going crazy. Yeah, it was.

Yeah. No, that's no hand door, but it is. Oh, no, what's wrong with the joy? You're so disrespectful. What's the motherfucker. My shit ain't doing that. My shit ain't doing that. You, back to Park at the reading.

So you wanted to play Bishop. I read Queen Latifah always Flavia unit. Shout out Flavie unit. Flavit unit. Not a legend, we need Queen Latifah on the show. Yeah, I'm gonna tell her too. Facts. So she was like, you're gonna be more than a rapper.

We gonna get you in some movies. You gotta read for him. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So like I said, when I read for Bishop, That was like my first time ever. So I learned so much from that first time. It ain't go down like that again. But I knew this nigga walked up in that motherfucker.

I knew what they do when I go up in that motherfucker. Okay. Learn the lines. I said, how do you do that shit? Because I'm going to ask, if I don't know something, I'm going to ask. Park like, listen, know your lines. Go out there and give it to him like if you was giving it to him. Know what the camera at, know this, that, and the other.

If a fly in your face, swat it. If your lips dry, lick them. If it's hot and you're sweating all over, you don't look like a crackhead. Wipe the sweat off and talk. Got you. You know what I mean? Make it you make it like it's really happening right there. He went to acting school with Jada Pickett.

So he was the man. He was natural talent. Every movie he was in and you was in was great. But how do you meet Pock though? We was on the role. It was Public Enemy. Queen Latifah, Digital Underground, Heavy D, rest of peace have. Rest of Peace, happy.

That was the first big fly nigga, too, by the way. Yes, he was. My dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly. Man was dance. Yeah. Swagged up. So we all was on the road. I was with Latifah.

I was a roadie. Park was with Digital Underground. This one Latifah had ladies first and all that. Oh, ladies first. Yeah, yeah. But when she came with you in 19, why, who are you coming to bitch? Yup. was a rap like a doobie.

You was on that tour? She was like doing them record. Yeah. Wow. We were all together. Public enemy was headlining. Pop out. Rodeys is we was carrying bags.

Yeah, definitely. Boom. You know, suitcases off the bus into the rooms, to the rooms, all that, and getting to perform on stage. I got the freestyle with Latifah. He was doing the Humpty and same song. So this before OPP? Yeah. Oh, this dude.

Who's paying? Oh, alright copy. I didn't know this. Oh, so, Cock was on the road with Queen Latifah. He was with Digital Underground. Oh, with Digital Underground. We met, yeah. And I was with Latifah and this nigga meet.

Yeah. So we get Padilla. Pidium is like you get money a day to eat and do what you gotta do. Yeah, yeah. We'll get our Pidim every show, every town, and then go to the hood and buy weed. So we know niggers like right to this day that I knew like 35 years ago. So it was Queen Latifah, Digital Underground. Public Enemy, Heavy D.

Oh, that was. That was a tour. Shit, that was, I know that, that tour. That was, that was, that was, that was, Public Enemy, Heavy D, Queen Latifah, you. Digital Underground. Digital Underground. Yeah.

But you don't got your head out. No, it wasn't me, it was Queen Latifah. Of course, you was just, yeah, and carrying bags. Damn. That's crazy and that's how you got caught. Talk about that tour. How was them tours back then in the 80s? Crazy.

Nigger. Nigger. Tell me some stories, man. Story. Heavy D, rest in peace legend, Kali-L-T for legend, public enemy legends. Like, I want to know how a tour, if I could rewind time, I would love to be on a tour like that. The tour was so ignorant. It was like, once me and Pock get off stage, like most of the start, you know, Chuck D.

He'll have a room full of bras. Preaching to him, my son. Oh, shit. He didn't try to get no bitchies. Fight the power. We're trying to get some fencing. Fight the power. Nigel.

Preaching for real, like, preaching to girls? Yeah, like have them all sit around and they be, and he be dropping knowledge. He's dropping knowledge. Sister, sister, like, we be looking like, man, let's go to the other side of the lobby, but he's. Who are you a pop? You're fucking pop.

Oh, wow. Every town. That's crazy. Pop was on it. So Digital Underground. Yes. He was doing the Humpty dance and he was doing same song. Yeah, I remember the Humpty.

Remember them, them glasses were selling like a motherfucker. Yeah, the nose and the glasses. Rest and P. Shock J. Yeah, Ruffin P. Joshi, the humpting dances your tips. Do the hump. Do it, baby. That beat was so crazy.

Watch me, do the bass in it. Yeah, that's how I knew about pop. Hey, fat girl. Come here, are you ticklish? Yeah, I'll call you fat. Look at me, I'm skinny. Yeah. Classic hip-hop stories, bro.

So, met him there. That was. What year was that? 1990? 1999. You were Pac, 89 to 90. So that was like for me and Park, the like most, like, safest, boom. Like, nobody knew us.

Right. You know what I mean? They saw us on stage and they loved us, but we go to the hoods. It was the safest because it got wicked in the 90s. Right. Facts. Facts, definitely. Once motherfuckers get to know you.

Then they knew his story, Baby Black Panther. Right. Right. From the door. They got turned up after that, they found out the affiliation, right? Oh. Do you feel like music, like in the 80s, like when you've seen records like self-destruction, you know, rapists could never do that now?

Do you feel like it was more of a positive message back then than it is now? Oh, definitely. Every song basically was a concept song. Right. Everybody was talking about everything. It wasn't one way or anything. Even NWA came out, express yourself. Fags.

Ice Cube today was a good day. Everybody wasn't banging every record. So everybody has everything going to be all right. Yetto bastard. You feel me? It was like things that get your mind, K.R.S. 1. Come on now. We were just talking public enemy.

Right. Yo, they, the messages that was in there, It was definitely there. Grand Nubian too. Grand Nubian, ooh. Because they was talking about the crack era, you know, people get high. Pung you jump up and get beat down. Yeah.

Nothing but a beat. Nothing but a beat. They had them beats. Yeah. I wonder how she got them because I hit him behind my speakers, Saddam's. Yeah. And Grand Puba was like that. When you think about marketing back then, Grand Puba was like the Polo, the king of that shit.

He was a lingo lord. Definitely had that lingo. That lingo. But dress-wise, he was wearing- Oh, the swag, yeah. He looked like he got this shit from the boosters. He was like, come get me my to-low, my Tommy Hill figure. He always, he was sharp.

Poober-sharp had the toe. Then he had the motherfucker fay with the part all in the views. He was like, where these niggas from? These niggas is fresh. Definitely, man. You know it. And they kick a knowledge. That's yo, good time.

I wish I could be back in that time and hip-hop some time. That shit. Think about it. It was a lot of legends back then. It was amazing. It was a number of legends. It was amazing. All from like different parts, New York, Jersey.

Y'all was Jersey though. That's what made difference. Like Queen Latifah, come on. I remember you in ITY when she dropped that shit. I could just imagine you on that tours. All kind of women and different, you got public enemy and you got digital underground. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy.

And another one we got to say rest in peace too was out there with us. Apache. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Russi Bichia Patch. I need a gangster bitch. A gangster bitch. A gangster bitch. A gangster bitch.

That's a bad. That's a bad. My guy at Greenland. We did that record over too, man. I remember that. That's a fact. That's a fact. So imagine all of us out there on the road.

It was just. Crazy. No social media. And everybody's dancing. You hardly see rappers like that, maybe on video music box. It wasn't even like that. It wasn't even like cell phones. It was beepers.

Of course. You had to find a phone booth. You little niggas know where the phone booth is. Oh, man. You little niggas know what it's like the motherfucking has some quarters in your pocket, homie. At all times, you be jingling, baby. Hit that paypo.

That shit was more than just talking. Elle wasn't talking just about them girl. You talk about niggas run to the phone with them coins in their pocket, jingling, baby. You know, yeah, this is the talk of New York. And this the boy uncle murder, aka Lillie. And Jett, Lenny. Today we're here to talk about basque and leather. Oh, I'm saying.

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Yeah! You know, I got a name one legendary group. You know what I'm saying? And I know you're going to be like, damn, salt and pepper. Uh-huh. Wifee. Pepper, right? Back in the days.

I remember one- Keep my ex-wife name out your fucking mouth. Will Smith boys, yay. Listen, man. Listen, yay, yo, yay. Go and continue. Listen, hold up, man. Chesh, you sure we go.

Yo, we're good. We do. We go. My niggas, any time I sit down, I never say, you can't ask this. Got you. Motherfucking, we go. Definitely be doing this. Yeah, now look.

Now this is, now this is, now let's think about it, right? Like when you think of like back in the days, like MC light and MC light definitely, everybody had a crush on her, but she had the tomboy shit going on. She had like the baggy jeans, but still was cute. She was on the wall? Like the girl from her. She was on the wall. She was on the wall.

You got to let me finish. Of course. MC light, everybody had a crush on MC light, right? And then when you looked at salt and pepper, that was like. Like way before, like that was like kind of like sex else. They had to spend their shit on. Push it. Come on, bro.

Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Everybody thought they were saying, ah, pussy. Pussy real good. Nah, y'all jerse you think that, Nick. All right, we said it was pushing. We'll admit. This nigga said everybody thought it was pussy.

It was. When I met her, I was thinking, oh, pussy. Nah, it was pushing. Pussy, real good. Oh, pussy. I got to get this, nigga. Bring her back to jerse, that's my man. That's what I'm saying, Trey.

That's my man. You had like one of the baddest chicks in the game. It's like when you think about it, like, that was like a time in hip-hop. We're like, saw and Peppin and Spinderella when they came with them spandex suits on, the boots. Tall boots. And they had the old jackets on. The door knockers. The bodies was tea back then.

You know that, you know. The dukey rose. The big duke. It was like, yo, who is these girls? And they all fine. I still remember the first. I don't remember the second one. I always tell that. No disrespect to her. Yeah. She's from Brooklyn. That's right. Fax. I didn't know. So where's the first Spinderella for him?

I don't know. Because the one, the first Spinderella was in Push It. Yeah. Yeah. The first. That's the one I loved. I loved the first Spinderella. I'm not just speaking to the second one. No, hold on. I love both of them. No, I think by that time. No, Push it. D. Dede was Spenderella. We got a, I got a look at. Yeah. She lived in my project, two, pink houses. Yeah. So who was the bad at Spinderella? I got confused. No. That's on you. That's your judge.

That's your judge. Was the second one in Pushit? Yeah, that's Dee Dee. So now you're gonna flip on the first one? Because a few episodes ago you were off here for the first one. Wow. Look at that. I get confused.

I got to see that was the first Spinderella. Because you gotta think about it. That was the video when like, it kind of was like sex sales at that point. They had the suits on. It was like, oh, push it. It's all looking good. That was D-D. Definitely.

All right. That was spin, the second spin. So now the second one is the best one yet? Guess what is the small world? I'm not going to get into it. Because guess who? I might have fucked up, man. I get mixed up with the spindle.

It's all Googled. It's all Googled. Now I'm mixed up. Go back to the footage too. No, because now I'm mixed up with the spin derail. I know you is because now we got the capo here. So when you met Pepper, you met Pepper in the 80s? Nah, in the 90s.

After we came out, I met. I met Pepper at the Spring Break, MTV Spring Break in Florida. Definitely. Shout to Saw and Pepper Legends. Fags. Legends. Spinderella, too. I love both.

Yeah. Both the Spinderella, man. I love both of y'all. Sorry. But, yo, so damn, you wiped it up and everything? What year was that? That was, actually, you was together like 10 years. I wiped it up probably like in 99, 1999.

Said 1909. Yeah. Okay, copy. Copy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Did that. And you had a baby, right?

Yeah, you got a daughter now? Yeah. How does your daughter now? She's now 26. Wow. Shout to her up, man. Shout to your daughter. The daughter's actually fighting, nigger.

Oh, word? They robbed her. You call that fighting? What you call that? What you call it? Nigger. Nigger, she was swan diving. She fell right into the mat face first.

What the fuck you call that fight? Nah, see, she, she, she, Nika, that's not fighting. Yeah, nah, I say, man. See, we ain't gonna do that. It wasn't a fight? It wasn't a fight, man. was a fight?

I mean, she lost, but it don't matter. See, some motherfuckers only even got the heart to get in the break. No, hard is a different subject than fighting. Okay. I don't seen a lot of niggas with a hard fight. Oh, man, damn. And start breakdancing.

Okay. You feel me? Okay, I got it. Spinning the fuck all around, dizzy and shit. He said, I don't think that was fighting. That wasn't fighting. I'll let her know that. Did she fight somebody?

Like twice a weight class or something? No, it was Olympic champ. Oh, come on, man. That don't even count. Yeah. I'm going there with Olympic champ. So that's when I went out and I said what I had to say about a team and a squad and all the rest of that, setting up for destruction. Yeah, I seen something like that, man.

I seen something like that. And then my nigga 50, 50 that came on was like, oh shit, time for pep my nigga, Tress to get the guns. Nigger started, they start commenting like, yo, I hear you, how 50 disrespect. I'm like, nigga, first or fifth my nigga, and he already know the first thing a nigga think when something go on with their kids is get the guns. Facts. What a game ready to play? That's a fact. That's a fact.

So I had to tell a whole hoard, man, shut all that. Who the fuck said something? She had a couple of niggas. It wasn't a lot. Got you. Nugget, what about a jersey you from for the people that don't know? Illtown, East Stars. How was it going up there in the 90s?

Because Jersey, come on. Shout to the whole jersey. Yeah, man. Everybody thought Jersey had pools and backyards. Like until ghetto Baster came out and they seen it was project. Right, right. And then live, motherfuckers cut the jersey was getting Jack like that.

Go to clubs and say Cesar Zahar. Hit the Brick City, Nork. Nigger, Via East Thorns, Illtown. Get down. Yeah. But we were super fucking fans of the culture. I grew up listening to. We used to go upstown to pick up and get mixtapes.

So I heard Cool Mo D and the Treacherous Street and Busy B battle. Oh, Busy B. Oh, that real. Okay, copy. Mix tapes. No, this before the records. This was doing mixtapes of battles. Oh, Kumo D?

Man, what? Coombo D. He was one of my favorite stupid shots. Man, Cummody. He's still alive, right? Yeah. And still doing shows. I can see if we talk about that.

Definitely. Talk about still doing shows like artists, like I told you, we was talking backstage, J Rood of Damager U, KRS 1, and a lot of artists, younger generation, they come out, but some of it is microwave music. They might have that one record and, that's really it. But it's like, for you guys, how does it feel to be still doing it 35 years, still making money, still getting merch, know what I'm saying?

It's a beautiful thing. Because the niggins think the older niggas ain't get money when they are. The KRS ones, you know what I'm saying? Melly Mell. The Mellie Mells. They still be money. Scorpe's still out there. Like a lot of niggas perception is, yo, these old niggas is pop.

But they still touring 35 years later. Talk about that, man. Look, this fingernail here is the United States. United States. All this floor and anything else is the world. So if somebody don't see you in the States or hear about you with a new record or you ain't on the radio stations, then you a has been. Right. It's looking like hip-hop the only culture where you gotta retire at 30.

Right. Motherfucker, Madonna just got a brand new album to fuck out. Share. Look at that. Look at that. You know, rock and roll never put an age change. Like you said, Dolly Parton dropping. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I think she's doing something on Broadway, too. 80 years old. So why hip hop has got to retire at 30. Yeah, hip hop, yeah, you're done. You're done. All right. Well, that's why I love Rock the Bell's radio.

You know what I mean? The Block. Yeah, 94.7. Yeah, the Block. Shout to 94. The Block. Shout to 94. That's a bad.

94.7. We see y'all. Yep. Satellite radio. Of course. Playing that worldwide. So we tour worldwide. The kids that's in there grew up off of the culture of it,

they still breakdancing overseas. They still got graffiti overseas. They still got the emcees, the DJ. They respect the whole culture. You've been seeing them kids in Japan and all that? Yeah. Be like this big breaking going crazy. Yeah.

Are you feeling any of the young boys now in the music game right now? Who you feeling like? Who you like right now? Albi-Bi-L. Shout out the Al-Bi-Bial. We had him on the show. That's our guy. Who else you like in the Jersey?

Fetty Wattie. Fettie. Welcome home Fettie. Yes, sir. And it's just a game. We got Trill, Trilly Trill. We got Prince Rock, man. We got True O-Fitty boys, wreak the kid.

Man, we got some- Money X too. Shout out the Money X. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He locked back down. He locked back up, I know, man. Chamberman. Chain remains, man.

Damn, man. You want some real Jersey shit, man. Who else, man? That ain't from Jersey. Tretch. God damn, nigger. I like Cardi. Okay.

I like Nicky. Okay. I like Lotto. All right. Gotcha. So weedy. I like spitters. I like got you.

You know what I mean? Got you. Got you. Like Dochi? Like Dochi. Spitter. Is she? That anxiety.

Do you feel like balls is coming back? Because it feel like that? Yeah. Like when you hit Kendrick and Drake and Drake and Docee and Lado and Nicky. And all of them. Like I'm, You said new, they're not new, but... That's who you're feeling.

Facts, got you. Got you. Got you. Yeah. So talk about... Because I know you was in plenty of other movies. Let's talk about some of the other movies you were in because it seems like, you know, like a lot of rappers, like,

it's like when they start outside business, they go straight to the movies. Did you go to acting school and what other movies you was in? Because I know there's so many I seen you. Yeah, I went to acting school right in the hood on the block. Every time a cop said, where the stash, I said, I don't know. Hey, boy, the motherfucker said, you guys said? Nope. I learned an act a long time ago from my mama.

You, who the fuck took? Wasn't me. So then I trained it to do it that motherfucking way. And Charles Dutton, the rock, OG. He had me in a first time Felon with Omar Epps. And he asked me, he was like, did you ever go to acting school or anything? I'm like, no, no, gee. He was like, don't.

What? He was like, you've got this. Look at that. That's dope. You feel me? So that was one. It's been, I've been in Empire, before Empire, John Leguizamo, Fat Joe, all of that. Oh, yeah, I remember that one.

Sopranos, New York undercover. Yeah. Law & Order. Oh, shit. Every, every, I told you all. I was in mad movies. Bad TV shows, I think. All that.

Jason's. I remember Jason Lyric. You feel me? I remember Jason Lyric. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Are you going to keep continuing acting?

Oh, definitely, definitely. We just actually, that was Jason's lyric and I just got finished doing the play Jason's lyric. All right. With Allen Payne, you know, traveling play in theaters. Before that, I did New Jack City with Allen Payne. I was Neon O'Brown. Right.

So we're going to keep the acting thing going. Definitely. Grab them bags. Facts. I mean, you was a superstar. Still is, nigga. I don't know words. My nigga still is superstars.

You know what I mean. Facts, you know what I'm saying? You ever beat a rap up, man? Like behind the scenes, man. Oh, my God. Statue of limitation. I can't speak on that shit yet, my nigga. I can't, no, I ain't like these vines.

I ain't going to snitch myself, but. I like that. No dry snitching, he said. He ain't dry snitching on the cell. It's moist snitching when you snitching on yourself. You can't even blame a nigger for snitching when you're telling all your businesses out. Well, tell us the wild groupie stories with Pock, man. That's what I want to know.

Oh, man. I can tell one. Just tell me one. So, so let me tell you two. I told you Pac-was type of nigga, he was like, you ain't get that role, but come, stay with me in the hotel. Is us, uh, uh, Mo Prame, Ed Lover, uh, uh, Stretch from Live Squad. Um. What, Ed Lover Radio?

Yeah. Oh shit. Or with Pac, we was all chilling with Park. He had one big ass suite and anything else, so we all was chilling different times. So he got me in the movie and it was like, while we standing one night, he had came up. I had come up in that motherfucker, this thing

was going to throw, banging some shit to fuck out. So back then it was like the little camcorder shit. And the door was cracked. Oh, man. I was up in that motherfucker like this. And I got too close with one. time when I hit the door. What the fuck?

Nah, nigga, I'm just, nigger, nika, what the fuck is you doing over it? You see, you came. He said, you got it. I'm like, look up, man. Get the fuck about it. You got it. You got it. That's a good.

You said you got that footage, Nick. Yeah, yeah. Get about it here, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He ain't do nothing. He just came in. He ain't know where he's in. So how do you prep before you get on set?

I know you ain't coming in there. Like how it is, like when you coming on set, like tell people that want to be. want to be actors because you did so many films and so many TV shows, like being on time. Oh, you definitely got to be on time. Definitely they got to be on time because they could get somebody else real quick or and the name will go out. Your whole shit will be blackballed through the whole industry. You got to know your motherfucking lines.

It's a production. If they got to take 7,000 takes because you don't know your fucking lines and anything else, that word gets around. You know what I mean? Professional. If you're going to get high or drink or do all that, do that shit. when that shit is cut, end of the night,

go back to your room, get your fade on, come in there ready, prepared, and be a sponge out there. You know what I mean? Network. Why are you there?

With other motherfuckers, you don't never know who you. There's so many different shits with motherfuckers that blew up and called me after the fact. You feel of that? Just because you got to do

your negrociations. Negrossiations. I like that way there. Negrossiations. Yeah. When I look at, That top five in Jersey, like, I got to throw Queen of her teeth on there. Bam.

Nordy by nature on there. Thank you. Bam. Redman on there. And then I always just, the last two. Why do I always... Man, it's so many. And you got feet.

Who else was from Jersey? Roddigger. Oh, Rydigga. Spitter. Spitter. Yes. You feel... Lock him Shabazz.

My chemistry bad. Apache. Apache. Yeah. Poor righteous teachers. Poor righteous teachers would be on my list for show. That would be like my number four. I ain't going to lie.

You feel me? And then, I mean, there's so many underground and producers and all types of you were saying the culture and all that. Was that affect some Jersey? No. Yeah. I mean, somebody was from, one was from Brooklyn and one was from T-neck, definitely. Oh. So you got another spitter over there.

I will put, well, he was not going to let me get to Brooklyn half. So I would put one set of dollars of X on my top five. I ain't say it. Yeah, I ain't trying to start. Because shit, no, no, no, it's not that. It's just, you said one's from Brooklyn, one's from Jersey. I could have sworn one was from Jersey though. Yeah, T-Nak.

Yeah, because I always be, but I just know like you, Queen Latifah and Red Man, it was just like, what y'all did for the game was just totally different. Who made Tretchen? Who made you want to get into the music bass? The first record my mom's played that wasn't just throwbacks from the 70s and Motowns and all that was Sugar Hill Gang Rap is Delight. That was the first hip hop I ever heard. And they're from Joe's.

I got to throw the morning in. This guy's just, you know, mixing his top five? No, because I, look, when I threw the Jersey. Dollets is just king. No, no, no, I didn't even know. I didn't even know. Sylvia Robinson and all them dishes. I didn't know, listen, I didn't even remember.

Listen, poor righteous teachers I didn't know what's from. Yeah, Taylor Storm is from Jersey. Look. He could tell you. Listen, but what I'm saying is I didn't even know poor righteous teachers is from Jersey. Yeah, Tina. I mean, our trend. As us watching.

South Jersey. Video music box, right? Mm-hmm. You kind of said Jersey in your rhymes. Queen of Tifa. I don't know. We just, she was a star. We just knew she was in, you know what I'm saying?

And she was, she was connected with the Zulu Nation. Yeah. And then Redman, like, he just had, he was the nigger that just came with just a whole smoke culture. Like, I remember going to high school and how to Rolla Blunt came out. And that shit was like the biggest shit in the world. Niggins started rolling the Philly Blunts. He had New York, like, this is what I'm saying.

So for y'all, y'all, y'all was like, y'all was the ones that came from Jersey and was like, had this big-ass impact. Like, OPP was like, you know any set you went in the club. That's coming on. Do do do. Niggas is cutting that shit. Buh, you know, that's just going to get cut up like 20 times, nigger. Yeah.

You were queen something. Grandmaster Vick. He, do-doo, you down with OPP. Oh shit, we got church in the building. They're going to cut that shit. Oh. So for us coming up, that was the club shit. Like, oh, you know these niggas is coming with the club music.

You know what I'm saying? And then Redman, you know, he was coming with that like, niggas going to high school, how to roll a blunt. He had Philly Blunt's. He was Marlins. walking in Philly Bunch back then. Was he, Reggie, you fucker. He definitely got busy with that.

Like, they know what the city. They owe him a check. They owe you a check. Look, and then with Queen Latifah, her impact was like, who you calling a bitch? Like, come on, bro. Like, nobody was rapping like that back in the days. You and I G-Y.

And Laud looked like she socked you out. For real. Set it off. Don't fuck with set it off. But still, them records are- Don't fuck with Cleo. Don't fuck with Cleo. Don't fuck with Cleo.

Don't fuck with Cleo, nigga. Who you calling a bitch? You're fucking goddamn knock you out and take your bitch and tug it down, Nick. Don't fuck with Cleo. Don't fuck with Cleo. That shit was different. Like I always say, and look. Shout out to the queen.

Shout out to the queen. You know, the shit queen like tea for flavor unit. And look, I always say, bro, like, I don't want to sound cliche, but self-destruction definitely was like a big record. Mm-hmm. Like, because you never seen that ever happened in hip-hop. And guess when it happened again? it happened again. When?

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This nigger's so East Coast like, God, let me school my niggas with the fans. I'm so East Coast, my baby. Make sure they bring that up in the clip, man. You're the same gang, man. All in the same gang, yo. I'm not disrespectful to the West Coast. I know, tell you not. You just don't know it.

You just don't know it. Just don't know. Because, nigger, when that self-instructs shit, You had it for a self did. That shit was just, when that shit came on, that shit was like everything for a New York nigga like. Yeah. Like, damn, let's check myself.

Oh, shit. Every rapper that's popping is together. And talking some positive shit. Never seen no shit like that. That was our, that was our we are the world. Yeah, it was a we are the world of rappers. Yeah. Who was on there?

Queen Latifah. Man. No, that's cool. We ain't advocating that. We just saying. I'm just telling you. You know that though. I trust the reality ever.

That's what they was doing the next week. I mean, I don't care about that. All I'm saying to you, it was, look, not them against each other, though. Rappersback didn't have beef like that. But, man, I'm talking about the streets. I didn't talk about this. No, no, but it was, it was perfect for the time because it was like in hip hop as well. It was bad out there.

They needed that shit. It was Afrocentric. So we had more of a positive, we had the public enemies. So we was like aware of Karras once. Who else was on there? Miss Melody was on there. Queen Latifas. Tell more.

That's what. What I'm saying, all I'm saying is, Stetsasonic was on there. Heavy D was on there? Yeah, have. K. R.S. was K.R. was M. Z. Light? I think Humo D. MC Light. Everybody was on, that's all I'm saying, the thing is like you fast forward the hip hop now. Like, that'll never happen again. That's what make that record special. And what I'm saying is back then, a lot of music had messages. It was positive.

Everything now is pretty much you kill. It's cool. You can tell you. You can tell you. tell you a story, I'm not going to judge you. We all been in the street. But back then, it was just positive. I guess what happened? Now, in the game back in the days, everybody, every group had to look different and sound different. Right. For one, had to have conceptual songs, all of that as far as the A&R was listening to even sign you.

You for what I'm saying? Radio stations got to a point when gangster music. music came and boom, in the hood, grideous and all that type of, and whatever, and the most sexes or whatever was playing. I seen different artists that was totally not on, none of that, gangster shit and nothing, switch and pivot to that because the labels that were signing

at the time was- A lot of artists didn't, so like what I'm saying is like, when AIDS epidemic was coming at a point of time, right? Jungle Brothers had my buddy, which they, if you know your hip hop, they was talking about condoms, right? They was promoting condoms, positive shit. Definitely. When the AIDS epidemic was happening in the hood, right?

When you heard Tribe Corps quest, right? When they had records, right? It was, I left my wallet and Elsa Gundo and Benita Applebone. When Benita Applebone came on in the club, nigger, that beat everything. It wasn't no really killer shit. It was just hip-hop. It was just different. No, the low-end theory.

De La Soe, look, De La Soe-Los in my lawn. Back then, the beach was just so hard and niggas was just on some other shit. Like, potholes in my lawn. No, it was just- It was abstract. It just feel like it was more of art and like more of a positive message back then. So I just wanted to know, like, what was the difference to now to you? That was it. It was like everybody labels were in the picture.

Right now, everything is independent. nobody have to go through no labels and that and they drop whatever they want. And throughout the years, the grimy is, the, the butt-necked records, the everything else, everything came to that. It's like, I see, we saw it's like, it's now for females, it's a straight hoe rap. Right. Hmm. Anybody on a poll, everybody twerking, anybody butt-ass-necked, anybody getting the bonfucking

BBL, anybody's out there in a song. Right. like that's what the culture has evolved. Yeah, yeah. Because back then you had Miss Melody, Queen Lattee for, yeah. It was more of a message shit. Even Lauren Hill, it was just like. The messages took over.

Came the Nazasas, the Biggies, the JZs, the Mobb Deeps, all that shit. Really? I think it happened. And niggas wanted that shit, though. Trench, you know what? That came out. The 80s, everybody was fresh, right? Towards the 90s.

The 90s, we came out with braids, Dickie suits, boots. Then they got grounded towards that 9-5, 9-6. It got grimy. Niggas wanted to hit that shit. You know what I think, yo, you know what I think it started for me? Not at all. You know, look. You know, Trench, you know what I think what I said got grimy for me is when Onyx came out.

Throw your guns in the air! That shit was crazy back then. Niggas was buying guns just because of that video. Like, oh, shit, I got to get a pistol back then. I remember that shit. You had to have a baby two-fow. These niggas too deep. We got catch up.

Throw your guns in the air. Oh yeah, shout out the Onyx. We out on the road overseas with them right now. down with the whole, you know, sticky and fragile. Bup, but, fuck. I fuck with onyx. Sticky fingers, I rob you for your eyeball. Yeah, Sticky was always, come on.

You know when that nigger verse was coming, they got to change up and all that. But, but, but wait, it gets worse. You'd be like, these niggas about to hurt something. Nigger, nigger, let's get our pop. That wasn't a beat was the hardest beat from them that. What was that? What was that?

What record? What? Slam? Slam? Nah, not slam. When they came with that shit, Dirty Harris and Gary Harris. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about?

The beat that go boom, boom, boom, boom. I forgot what song it is. I think it was last days. Last days. Oh my God. You know, too my last days. They still had it right there. That's tan these stages up.

No, I know. That's classic. It's not microwave music. It's going last round. Forever. Queens, baby. I knew you. I knew it was coming, right?

I give you that. It's all good. I give you that. You can't see you that. They want to them. Yeah. For life. So what's next, man?

When the tour started? It's already started. We go back out. I meet them back in Switzerland. They're doing a lot of other dates in Germany right now. Are you all doing the Swiss Alps? Because I did it like eight. Y'all doing the Swiss Alps?

Zerick. Zerick. Zerick. Yeah, we did Zurich before. Zurich. Yeah. I'm the only rapper to do the Swiss Alps. That's why these nigs be mad.

You the only one? I'm the first rapper to do the Swiss Alps. Who told you that? Fake news. Oh, shit. You can say fake news. Me and Pete Rock did that shit like nine years ago. Well, I'm after y'all.

Because he always told me he the only one in the first one. Yo, I'm after you on. You ain't seen? I'm third then. They told you that was big foot's print. That was my nigger feet, niggas. I already been in that snow. My nigger chest did.

That with Pete Rock nine years ago, man. No, I believe you, y'all did it, but I'm the third. I'm the third. I'm the third. Or maybe the fourth. Because you heard about, my niggas said you could be the third, but you went to first. You were with P. Rock? Yeah.

He was, yeah. In the out. You think P. Rock and Seale's smooth? They don't get along, dude. No. I mean, I love them both. And I just heard, I heard an interview from Pete Rock. Niggie said, kind of like me and Vinny in them niggas, niggas.

Shit ain't work yet. That shit is disposed. So hold on. So hold on. That truck, Benz-go. So do you think, this is what I want to ask you. So do you think it's a producer-rapper situation? Because it's like Pete Rock made all the beats, no?

Nah, whatever they got, it was like, because C.L was like, you know what? I even call out, he had an interview, like, for Pete Rock to do, we get back there, blah, blah, boom. And they asked Pete Rock, what do you? As P. Rock, what do you think? He was like, I think some other producer could do that. I'm, you know what I mean? So that's when I knew like... That's crazy. It ain't going to happen. All that's about everything.

Yeah, hell yeah. But I remember when that shit came out. That's how it beat, man. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you got pivot. Yeah. It's a pivot on the planet. Yeah, you ain't right. See, that's another record right there.

Niggas reminness. Reminis. Remindness. Yeah. That was going to hit it with the pivot, man. It's all good. Definitely. Yo, make sure y'all like, share and subscribe.

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