Joe and Jada - The Real Report - Tsu Surf on Battle Rap comeback, beating RICO Case & Wanting $250K to Battle

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

Tsu Surf joins Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda on The Real Report to discuss surviving five gunshots, the stranger who drove him to the hospital, and his experience in federal prison. Surf shares his account of his RICO case, explains why he wants $250K to return to battle rap, and addresses a potential matchup with Murda Mook. He also opens up about being away from his daughter, putting family first after coming home, and why revenge does not take away the pain of losing someone. Plus, Surf talks recording for Mozzy while incarcerated, working with Leaf Ward and G Herbo, and the stories behind his RICO project.Go to https://baskandlatherco.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Three lights down from the projects. You feel me? I'm sitting there. Phone ring, pick up the phone over. It's my mother. How far are you from? Oh, I got you. I'm good.

Sit the phone down as soon as I grab the steering with him. I rang and ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-to-do. I see the first one go through my wrist. Boom, hit the door. Everything else get fast. Gotcha. Now just your instinct's getting in. Now my mind start, my street in my eye.

The shots coming from over here. He came from this side. I got a distal clear side. I'm trying to get back that way. He came from behind me. I mean, I'm going that way because he came from this way. Fugs. I don't know how much you ought to really be thinking about that.

So I die because you be playing. I know what I meant to. I knew what I was doing. I jumped out the car. Oh, shit. The car is not necessary. He, them, he's flying through this. I jumped out of the car.

I ran the opposite way. And he's trying to get away. He's running that way. I'm running the opposite way. Pulling on car doors and I'm just trying to get anybody. Olums is a lot. People swerving around. I mean,

and then like one door just open. And I just fall in the car. I'm like, oh, you can take me to the hospital? He didn't get stabbed. Right. Shut the fuck up. Oh, bro. Brooms!

Ro! You get movies with him! Oh, come to get a . Yeah, I'm gonna get a . I'm gonna get a . That's how my . Yeah, this is the talk of New York, Tony, yeah. And this the boy uncle murder, aka Led Jack Linn.

It's the real report. and the king is back, the king of battle rap. Oh. He's rapping now. He's coming for the king of jersey. Oh. Make some noise for Sue Serf. Welcome home.

Whoa. Whoa. I like the welcome home. How you feeling, man? I was a hot-knit in the building. That was a hot-tick king of battle rap. I feel good though. I'm just happy to be home.

I mean, yo, bro, when you talk these numbers, a quarter million, you know, I got to label you the king. I'm just keeping it real. Quarter million is a lot of money for a battle. I heard Steve say, nah, he need 500. That's just a number until I get it, but yeah, that type of- But right now is at the quarter million number. Well, I heard Steve say 500, man.

Half a million? Yeah, the big dog kind of, the big dog matter. Shelter Steve, man. Yeah, I try to take as much advice for him. Shout to Patty too. Welcome home, Patty. Welcome home, Patty. Thank you.

38 years, man. 38 years, man. God, yeah, welcome home, Patty. Steve, and Steve talks about this guy murder for as long as I know him. I felt like I know Patty. And he's just like, y'all, I just can't wait to Patty. Get out, man. And you see him do 30 years and come out looking good in one piece, man.

I saw Patty out there trying to work an arm. He was trying to learn how to use the phone out there. Yeah, man. You figured it out of your parents, man. You figured out how to use it? You made a call. You made a call? All right, congratulations.

I mean, at least he had some Peter Lugas today. I was like, what's the head? Congratulations, Patty. That's a good first stop. The facts. Steve won't always treat you right. Yeah, because one thing, you know, I went to jail. Y'all went to prison.

Jail is right because Island. What? Prison is a whole other world. You know what I'm saying? Now, you're on top of your game. You had money before you went in. You on top of your game in battle rap. You know, it's five guys that's the elite.

We spoke on that. We'll get back to that later. But you do, you want to Rico. You know what I'm saying? You know, you're in Jersey. You get shot five times. I don't know even what you. It's like you live in a life of Tupac or something, man.

Like, no, I'm just being serious. So did you get shot first or didn't the Rico came? No, I got shot. I got shot in 2000. I got locked up for what they said, allegedly was attempted murder in 2017. Then I had came home like five months, five months after I came home on 2018. I had got shot. I got hit five times.

And then went back to not regular life, but you know, trying to figure some stuff out of that. So how was that like? You was just, how that happened? You getting shot. No, I mean, I know a nigger shot you. What I'm saying is like. You got locked up for that tip murder. I was not-you-was-you-was-locked for that tip murder.

Humbly, though. So, I mean, long story short, it's like, it started off a regular morning, like I would always start off. My son was putting in that pain. He ain't just one of these rappers that be talking that shit, but I had a problem. Jersey! No. Jersey!

I hate it. I hate that it be having to be like that, but sometimes it got to be like that. Yeah, of course, of course. And I'm like, I'd be trying to tell, niggas, like, you don't wake up. You don't wake up and be like, oh, this the day I'm going to do. jail for the next two, three, four, five year. Like, preparation really is important, especially if you enter certain type of stuff.

I'd be 100 to say I was never prepared when it came. And niggas don't be understanding that. Like, I hate that part. I don't know why I just went that way. But I wake up in the morning. Not bad. Not knowing that I'm about to, you know what I mean? So niggas just going to get breakfast.

It's me and my dog at the time. You feel me? Mm-hmm. And I'm just sitting at Texan Sholdy or whatever like that. He just tapped my leg. Yo, that's the nigga that shot. It's my best friendy that got, it's just a quick moment and that's all it take. So I'm saying?

Like split second. You know, that's the, look at that shot. My best friend. We're on that. Right. Like 10 in the morning. Facts. Breakfast then turned into something else.

Definitely. I get locked up. Stupidity. You got to be able to, like, you have to have critical thinking skills at all times, especially like, it's like, it's like, niggas think you're supposed to be dumb in the trenches and you got to be the, you actually, it's harder to be a street nigger than it is to work at Google. And to go to college and all that. other shit because man you got to be on point 24-7 for this shit.

My critical thinking skills was as I end up in jail locked up, you feel me? Mm-hmm. And the type of niggas that we was in like, I guess like getting into it with like, I don't really beat like humbly, niggas they beef with no suckers. Like that's, that's oppression. Of course. You know what I mean? We're gonna press nobody.

So nine times out of 10 if we're getting into it with somebody, they're reputable. They were for getting it into it with. So I come home and niggas get up with me, you feel me? Like, um, laid up in a bed. little shorthy. I see something come across the screen. I don't even know what TV, what movie it was.

I'm like, I remember it was raining. It's raining outside. I'm like, yo, you want to go see that? She's like, yeah, come on, let's go. Like, I don't got no clothes, though.

I'm taking you. All right, come on, get up. It just feel like a good day. So you start thinking shit was sweet. You take her shop with this shit, nigger. We jump in the car, jump in the car,

push through. Now she still live the life. Like, not, she's still living the hood. I'm kind of, you know what I mean? At this time, Sue surfers, like, sue surfing. Got your name out there.

You know what I'm? I don't live in the hood. I don't, like, I could, I could, because it's levels to getting away from the hood, like when it come to this rap shit. Like, so I'm out the hood, but I still, my presence is I'm still stepping in and out. One foot in and one foot out type shit.

Exactly. Before you really, you know what I mean? Like all the way out this motherfucker. Right. And they don't never just transition like that. And so I, uh, she's still living the hood. So I go to drop her off and the way to her hood is through the projects. You feel me?

And, you know, half the projects beef with the other side of projects. I'm from one side. And so we drive through and I see allegedly the person that, from the first situation. Facts. And we just like, and she's like, oh my God, y'all look like, y'all hate each other. Like that, I'm like, oh, that's, da-da-da-da. I go, I drop off. So I'm like, yo, go in there and get your clothes like that.

She's like, all right. Like, soon as she going in, my mom called me. Oh, mom, what's up? She's like, hey, go pick up such and such from the train station. Oh, I got you. Two seconds. Shorty come out the house. Hey, yo, wait right here.

You ain't got going to go in a way. Sit on the porch. I'm going to be back in two seconds. I bust the U-turn. What I do. I'm just out of natural habitat. I pushed the same way I came back through the projects. You're not even thinking about it.

You just, it's just natural dog habit. You know what I mean? It's just second nature. I'm from here. Niggas might have thought you probably was coming and try to get busy too. And that's what was said. Hurt you. You know what I'm saying?

When you really start talk as men talk. Of course. Of course. So word get back is like. If you see a certain nigga push through twice that already did X, Y, Z allegedly, it's like, man, listen. They think I'm on that. You spinning.

They think they're spinning. They think I'm on that. They get on that. So I'm sitting at the, I'm three lights down from the projects. You feel me? I'm sitting there. Phone ring, pick up the phone. It's my mother.

How far are you from? Oh, I got you. I'm good. Sit the phone down. So as I grab the steering wheel. I just start ringing. Tata, da, da, da, da. I see the first one go through my wrist.

Boom, hit the door. Everything else get fast. Got you. Now just your instinct's getting. Now my mind start, my street, my eye. The shots coming from over here. He came from this side. I got this to clear side.

I'm trying to get back that way. He came from behind me. I mean, I'm going that way because he came from this way. Fugs. Niggas don't know how much you ought to really be thinking about that shit. That's why niggas die. Because niggas be playing. I know what I meant to.

I knew what I was into. I jumped out the car. Oh, shit. The car is not necessary. Them shit is flying through this motherfucker. I jumped out of the car. I ran the opposite way. And he's trying to get away.

He's running that way. I'm running the opposite way. Pulling on car doors and shit. I'm just trying to get to anybody shit. All of them shit is locked. People swerving around. I mean? And then like one door just open.

And I just fall in the car. I'm like, oh, you can take me to the hospital. He's like, yeah, I ain't from around here, but I got you. Look at that. You feel me? He knew you was Sue surf, though, right? That's why it's weird to me, right? No funny shit.

Tony's like. Because I ain't just letting a nigga get shot up. Just kidding. Like Pete. We're a superstar. Scratch all that, right? We from North, the Carjack Central, Carjack Capital. For sure.

People don't make a mistake and just get off on this exit. There's no such thing as like, why are you around here? If you're just the middle of the trenches. You're not just about to be from somewhere else and be here. I don't care if you had to stop for gas and everything. This is the type of place where you'll skip this and get gas somewhere else. It was just a random person that don't know who I am in New Jersey. Like, I fall in the car.

You know what I mean? Like, he's like, yeah, I'm not. from around here. I'm like, yo, could you make a call for me? He called. Only nothing I could think of is my man. I call my man. I'm like, yo, I'm shot. He's like, man. He's like, man. I'm shot. Get to the hospital. I direct him to the hospital. I jump out. I go in the hospital. I never heard from again. He ain't jumping my comments. He ain't reach out to my. It's crazy to me. You look at that. That's crazy. There's no way you, sue surf gets shot in Jersey. You was the person. Like, even by mistake, your nephew, your, none of your nephews listen to me.

Your son don't watch battle rap. Your cousin, no. You're a bad. You're Black man didn't know. You don't know that you let, took two, sir. That's why it's crazy to me. I don't know. I believe in a higher fire. You didn't even get to show him the proper, like, salute, like pay him homage to right. Salute.

He had got paid more than. Well, shout to him. That's the fact. Shout out to him. Come find out. Hopefully he watched, hopefully he watching his podcast and go, oh, shit, that was me. Come find me, for real. Seriously, he will get the utmost accommodations.

I'm forever his favor. Look at that. Seriously. I mean, that whole heart. He could find me whenever. So how long did it tell you, how long you was in the hospital? After that shit happened? Like four days.

Four days? You got the fuck up out of there? Yeah, we're out of there. Got you. Yeah, we out of there. They folded me up, though. What hospital don't go to in Newark in Jersey? You get shot.

You know how, you know how to, yeah, there's certain... The crazy part is, right? Like, the hospital I went to ain't a trauma hospital. Like, we only got one, university hospital. It's like with all the shootings and emergency go, that's how a trauma hospital. The one I went to is more like a birth hospital. Like, they don't do trauma, but that was the closest hospital. If I ought to try to, if I had laid out and tried out and try to,

to wait for the ambulance to come from because that's where it came from across town. Got you. I would die. You feel me? Like, I survived and it was at a, like a close. It wasn't even, yeah, it wasn't even no real trauma hospital like, you know what I mean? Wurred up.

But yeah, nah, anywhere. No, okay. No, I ain't, no guy, place, man. I survive, you'll survive, man. Don't get shot out. No, I mean, it's, when you really think about it, it's hard for artists because, you know, you get all this money, you get to a certain level and certain people would be like, you, well, why lawsuit surf over there, he's getting a quarter million in battle.

What the fuck is he doing over there in the hood, in the projects? And then certain niggis be like, yo, he ain't in the streets no more. It's like, I don't know, man. It's like a gift and the curse being a rapper sometimes, the artist. That's not so all the time. We still animals, though. Like, humans and animal, like, what happened to like? So we could watch all these science TV shows and fully understand the animal, the habits,

they creatures and they habitats and they, like, why the fuck do a fuck throw a, Fox stay where it stay at. Like, you know, why don't you ever see a fox in the, you know what I mean, whatever, in Alaska or animals stay where they. And that's how dudes be too. I guess we'd be on the same type of time. Why would I like, we know the hood. We love the hood.

I know it. I just getting all this money. I love the hood too. I don't mean I want to be there. But when you go other places, like when you go other places like in Europe across the world, like it's hoods everywhere. Like there's a hood in Paris. Of course.

There's a hood in Sweden. Don't get me wrong. me, this hoods there. But ain't no guns. So the most you gonna have is a fist fight or a night fight. So you come, you in America, you like, getting all these guns here for, what the hell, why the guns here, buttons? Niggas, come on guns is crazy now, bro.

Niggas got buttons, switches on everything, on anything. You survive some shit. You know what I'm saying? And then now, look, you fast forward, you get shot, right? Wow. You got, you, you, you, you're the only battle rapper. I looked it up. You wanted the only battle rapper.

to be on Billboard on 2015 with the Newark mixtape. Right. Like you've been a nigger that been on fire. You've been getting bags with smack. You know, it's the elite niggas we know. We said, it's you. What? Who we said?

Lux. Mook. And we talk about the niggas that making six-figure. No disrespect to nobody else. But Cass. Cass. Cass is going to get six figures, respectfully. Cassie's going to get six figures.

The nigga can't say nothing about Cassidy. When we talk about business shit, Cassidy going to be. get six figures. Hitman Holla is going to get six figures. Murder Mook is shout out the big bro. Murder Mook is going to get six figures. Period. And Loaded Lux. Loaded Lux is going to get six figures. Guaranteed. Like, yeah, nah, that's, that's what my heart standpoint come from. I remember the first time murder Moot came around when niggas thought 20,000 was crazy or 100,000 was crazy. Like, Moot the first nigga to really drop a number on a culture. And niggas like, wait, what, 100,000? This battle rap. So why would I pull up and not?

Sell yourself short. Fuck that. And even if I'm not like, I ain't gonna lie. Like, humbly, I'd be feeling like the poster child for battle rap because I do feel like I get the most attention as far as, so it's a certain way I got a step because I do feel like, it is niggers and battle rap that I fuck with. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I can open the door for a lot of other niggas

because that's normally how I go. If one label pull up and black dare, and that came from battle rap, they're going to say, oh, what's up with the other niggas? So it ain't just about, it is about getting me to $2.50, of course. But if I could get $2.50, who else could get $250? Of course. I know I ain't the only nigga that could get $250.

250 might be, and let's be clear, like, if I'm asking for 250, that's just, that's a big number, but at the same time, maybe my living and life calls for that. So my 250 might be another nigga 50,000. Thanks. For sure. For a nigga that's getting five and he'd start doing this thing, I want 50. Stand on that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you look up and, my, nigga, security 100 an hour, nigga, y'all talk all this, he's two in the streets and he ain't supposed to be outside. I got, I got armed security now. He's 6-6-240 and he need $100 an hour. All right, he don't need to be in the car with the homies with the guns. All right, cool.

Well, now I got a driver and he $80 an hour. So I need this $250 so I can move a certain way and stay on these. Y'all want me to make it to the stage. You got that BP yet. Did you get the bulletproof? You got to get the bulletproof truck. You understand what I'm saying? Like, come on.

How much the bulletproof car? Like, my thing is like, make it makes sense. Like, y'all can't talk to the young black man in America. But don't talk all that shit to me about about how I'm supposed to be moving and what I'm not supposed to be doing. All right. So I can't have my blick on me, but I can't have security? Oh, so y'all want me to have security Iowa security costs

So now y'all got to y'all want me to do a job for y'all So now y'all got to pay the cost How much do it cost to get a ex-gang member or gang member Whatever picture, whatever view you see it in From New Jersey all the way to Houston To perform and do the job that we need him to do And get him back home

That costs a lot to get me from New Jersey to Houston It ain't the typical nigger You can't just push me through an airport and just assume that I'm gonna be straight. Mm-hmm. And this is proven facts because one day we see him woke up, wake up and get shot.

One day he woke up in the feds kicked in the door. One day, so we know anything happened with him. Hell yeah. Let's make sure we bubble wrap him and get him to do his job and on top of, and I do my job. I ain't go loud. When I heard they got you with the RICO,

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they ultimately think a nigga's done like, oh shit. So it's just flying around New Jersey and New York more than anything. People don't even understand none of that federal shit. Like, niggas just be talking. Niggers don't, it's niggas in the fairs for broken guns. It's niggas in a fair for one gun. It's niggas in the feds with no drugs.

Read the Fed guidelines, people. There's niggas in the Fed with no drugs, though. Yeah, you get arrested with, like, if you have, like, fake keys or flowers in the Fed guy line, I would have them read that my little skid bid in MDC. But, you know, like, motherfuckers done sole affairs. fake bricks and still get charged for that shit. So all that shit, fake guns, still get charged for that shit. They get trickier than that, though.

Like, you could sell a CI one time, right? So you sell to a CI, and let's say the transaction costs $350, right? But they've been watching y'all since 2023. On paper, they can say that they only had to do that one transaction. But the feds can say, if we bought from him every day since 223 at 300,000, $150 a pop. That's 19 keys. That's what your paperwork

going to say. It's not going to say 350 grams. It's called ghost drugs. So you'll be locked up for 19 keys. Like I got some big homies that's never coming home.

Like, he's like, he's keeping it real. We're in the cell. He's like, man, I want no plug out there. I ain't never seen a hundred keys. Say 100 keys on that paperwork. Niggas be on these comments

and these interviews. They don't even know how that RICO work. These niggas all don't know they flirting with the RICO, nigger. Same t-shirt, same hat, same handshake, all this. Rico. Rico, it's four y'all. Y'all got on the same shirt. Y'all got on the same chain. Rico. Niggas don't understand how this shit work. Like, that shit is copy and paste. Like,

I'm talking to the other reputable members in there from other places, other states, other gangs. Our paperwork look like carbon copies. Just remove the gang. Take out the rolling 60s. Put Serenio. Take out the serenios. Put the brems. Take out the brems. Take out the brims. Put the ball it like it's the same shit because you can't get around the federal government you know what I'm saying so it's like and it's no matter what you say once they put their eyes

on you you can say anything you want right so like let's say you sell cars but you really sell cars right and unc need a car so aunt call you and say hey yo you still got them Nissan Camry's you like yeah man you fail me

I got 5,000 I get you a 2023 probably he's like all right cool I'm going to hit you back I need that for my daughter right that's all y'all said when y'all go to trial they're going to bring somebody up there that's considered

an expert and he's going to say to my knowledge a 2003 Toyota Camry is a brick of cocaine that costs $23,000 he's the seller he's the buyer how do y'all beat that because this expert up there who got a college degree

who never did nothing under oath saying that's how I was slain How the fuck do he know he's not from Now look that's your story Now my story was I'm on Instagram with my little homies But I'm really talking about my merch And yo look I pay for the merch myself Y'all niggas ain't got to pay for nothing

But y'all should be- This is your case right now you're talking about This is your case My case I'm on Instagram I'm on Instagram Man y'all niggas should be promoting I should see that shit everywhere

I'm paying for the shirts Y'all just need to be making sure Y'all little bitches got them And niggas got them Look at my paperwork To my knowledge T-shirts are pounds of weed and like our shit our paperwork will look exactly the same and they just take they copy

and paste in that shit bro a lot of these niggas don't even know they two seconds from arico well look at that two seconds from arieco you want them doing how much time behind that shit sick i had 60 months i got my case i copped out the 60 months but i ain't have to do 60 months because so the way it work is under the rule it's a 3553 right so they're watching us since 2015 1515 right so they're watching us since 2015 So, Blessings be to God. That is crazy. I think this is 2015.

2015. Which one of y'all? Like, how to fuck? First of all. Oh, how do you fuck? What in the jam? 2015. Exactly.

Right? So your mind automatically go crazy because 2015, I'm just thinking about the person I was in 2015, like compared to who I am now, you know what I was on in 2015. They could want me for anything.

Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? They can want a nigga for anything, but it's like, that shit crazy. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. You know what I mean? Like, they be watching, they be watching you and you, and you're just doing like, and that's the crazy part. It's like, they'll let you do something and not lock you up.

Like, they'll catch a charge and they won't pick you up. But anyway, as far as- They just want shit to build and build and building. Right. Like that shit just took me somewhere out of his own. But anyway, as far as my time, right, it's like, so they're watching us since 2015. but with the way the feds work, once they start watching you, the case start.

So every single time I was getting locked up, I was getting jail credits, but there's not something you know until you become a Fed, nigga. You're the point system. Not the point. That's different. That's how they decide to charge you

off your points, off your guidelines. That's what it's called, right? But so now I'm catching a little miscellaneous gun charges in 2015. I catch the shoot and stuff like that. But at the whole time, we're under federal indictment. So now when I come and get them 60 months, and so for you to cop out to a RICO

you have to cop out to two predicate acts basically like admit to two things that you did right for you to take RICO though you're not taking those two things again so their two predicate acts for me was we need you to say that you did the shooting in 2017 and that this Instagram shit right here

that these T-shirts really was I'm like cool but now once I admit to the that I did the shooting they got to give me the time I did for it so it worked in my favor because you can't charge me twice you get what I'm saying so now I admitted to it

so I did a year and some change off the shooting you get what I'm saying so now y'all got to give me that on a 60 months so now my 60 months go down to 45 plus federal time you got to do about 85.6

so that 45 go down some more to you know what I mean 39 so you kind of look up and you start doing the math like niggas said that like yo why he cop out So far, you start doing the math and it's like, man, I'll be back in three and some change before I go play. My big homie got 28.

My little homie got 28. My Cody is 17, 15. You know what I mean? It's like, hell yeah, these niggas get me on some little miscellaneous I could get out. And you got to understand. The longer you want to fight these people, the case is still open. So when you're saying they locked up so you had to do the shooting, right? This is what I'm saying?

A nigga ratit? He rattled on you? What, on the shooting? Yeah. No, they go and see what they do. They're going to pull your jacket. Okay. Like once you, me and me and you, we're a gang.

gang, but you're not involved yet. And one day we're all in the house and you walk in. They're going to like, oh, who this motherfucker? They're going to get your phone number, get your jacket. They're going to pull all your shit. And anything that you did that's on your jacket, we can just make it federal. So you're like, you're going, I mean, we're going to pull you

and for all the shit you did before. Got you. Niggas don't know, like, niggas don't understand this federal stuff. Like. It's a whole other world, man. You was in USP Polar? Cana. Okay.

What that said? Pennsylvania. What was it like a nigg? Because I'm federal jail. It's crazy. It's nasty. It's nasty. I'll be here all day.

It's like 500 minutes a month to talk, unless you like a get money nigger, you could buy other niggas pack numbers and stuff like that. But you got, like the average person, I got 500 minutes a month. How do you come, that's not even three days? Yes. How do you communicate with your family? How you check on your kids? How you, there's 120 niggers on the tier.

It's only six phones. You better have a little oonf in you. Damn. Or some weight or some energy or be a step or something because you might not talk. might not talk to, like, and I... You said 120 inmates and six phones. And six phones. And six phones.

You only could call every 15 minutes. Like, I mean, what you want to talk about? Somebody gets stabbed up too bad, or it's a clash in gangs that's not... If it's like gang on gang, we'll be up in the hour. Let the Crips crash with D.C. We'll be down for three months. Now, you'll be in yourself for three months. 90 days.

I was just telling the homie that. You'll be locked in yourself for 90 days, right? So now in the midst of being locked in yourself, you know the jail got to keep moving as far as how they work. So four-five buses might have came in while we locked down. That's another three, four-hundred niggers that got to get checked into the yard.

So out of 300 niggers, as a federal nigger, I'll tell you, 220 of them niggas is either a chomo, a rat, or rapist, or a thief. So by time we come off a lockdown, 22 niggas got to go and every group of men got to do their own cleaning

so it just be a whole other when the doors open again it's a whole other we're going right back down crazy you know what I'm saying so like you never really up you never really talking to your kids it's a fucking shit show

Patty was just talking about it like the dumbest shit is glorified That's what kids stay out of prison stay out of jail man guarantee we ain't glorifying this shit everybody who's in there don't want to be there

Nobody right patty now what's your homies did Now, was your homies there for you when you was locked up, though? Was the homie? They can't even visit in the fans because it's a fucked up list. He know that. It's different.

It ain't like to stay. You're talking about from a more, like. If his friends got felonies, they can't visit. He ain't even talking about the VI. He being in the sense of just small rules of, like, being there, like, structured. Just being there and making sure the bread did, some things. Nah, you got men that was for show showing up for me.

You feel like that like that? But then you also got them people that's like, wow, him. That nigga ain't check on my mother, that nigg ain't. You know what I mean? And it's like, and even me, it's like, also I'm a certain type of man, so I might have got also a certain type of support. So I don't even want to speak from my standpoint. I want to speak from a standpoint of a normal average in me.

The average man in there don't got support. It's his own ecosystem. It's his own world. The average man in there is taking care of himself. Even getting on the phone and calling your people to get you to them to send you money as a part of taking care of yourself. That's a part of you handling your business in jail. You know what I'm saying?

You'd be getting to that phone and making that call. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the average, they'll all tell you, bro. Nah, the homies ain't got me. It'd be 400 niggers at the meter. I asked all these gang members. It'd be 300 niggas at the meeting, 200 niggas. If I set 100 deep, that means you could go get $20 from everybody,

and now I'm straight. I ain't got to call y'all for the rest of the year. That ain't going on in there at all. It don't be like that. It don't be like that at all. I might have spent the quarter mill. I might have spent the quarter mill my first year in jail. Taking care of my mother, taking care of my daughter, making sure he got a brand new car.

Birthday still. Trip's got to go and did a do, like, the show don't stop for real. Like, nah, that shit fucked up in it. And you can't complain because you got four years and like Patty said he did 38. Come on. You know, a nigga right across the hall from you by having natural life. That's the crazy part about it. Nah, I tell you from a, see, you never did Tom, right?

I tell you from a street, like from a jail nigga standpoint, excuse me, right? you can complain because it's like time is time right I had to tell a nigga that like a nigga I had like a 15 and I got 60 months he's like yeah nigga that's a ticket I'm like nah nigga you know of five years like my five years is this for like

12 years to me nigga I got a 17 year old daughter I got a bunch of my government you know what I mean this people that's dependent on me like my mother retired because of me I'm going for four years so no it seemed like a short time than you nigga I can't afford five years away from the village.

Facts, you get money. Facts, you know what I'm saying? So when you had niggas say something like that, like, oh, that ain't shit. Oh, no, oh, you didn't, oh, you was a good written. I'd say, some of these niggas is good writtance, niggas. When they go, they mother be like, ooh, I could turn this to a guest room now.

I could clean this place. This shit was, it was stinking in here. This shit was stinking and he had this to a guest room. She was, she was stinking and he had this mum. No funny, nigga get locked up. Mom, Dukes like, damn. And for real, like, even the real mom was like, I know he's safe now.

They were so scared that you lose you on them streets. They just know you somewhere like, fuck it. Safe and my mama told me that all the time. Like, when you're in jail, I just know you are all right. And that felt much better than when you go outside. You know what I'm saying? Like, so yeah, nah, time. Hell nah, yeah.

Like, time is time. Like, that whatever the fuck that was, that four years I did, that shit felt like 10. You want a quarter million and a half a million of battle. So, yeah, it's different. I ain't get it yet, but we're going to work. on it. Is that going to happen, moves?

What's up? If you keep segueing that to that shit. No, because I mean, I mean, listen, like I always tell you, I got so upset when battle rap went off of YouTube. You know what I'm saying? URL, the Canadian League. You're like, you don't know what shit. Debo, queen of the ring. The hard rock bat casino app is here, Ontario.

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since the beginning of the time. Because, you know, when the nigg can get on stage you know it's song. Right. That's different. You can even fuck up a line or two. You know what I'm saying? But when you're in the battle, I mean, it's just a whole different.

Battle rap is the toughest performing art in the world. There you go. It's the toughest performing art. Like, you know how hard Broadway is, but they go around the country doing the same thing every night. And battle rap, you got to have new material every time. Yeah, we were talking about that. It's funny you said that with Broadway, because even with Broadway, right, not that they do it,

but they can mess up and you won't even notice. Okay. They can mess up and you might not even notice. Like they keep it going because they have professional with it. Even with battle rap though, it's like if you damn mess up and battle rap, everybody would notice it and that damn thing could cost you the battle for real. The mind capacity it takes to like the logic you got to have behind battle rap and shit like that. Like you might be battling in Chicago when it's like, you know, we call it the chicken shack.

New York, Jersey. I shoot the chicken shack real quick. It's Coney Island in Chicago. If you don't got the word of all. to know that when you, you're in Chicago, you're saying chicken shack, them are like crickets. Like, it's so much mind that play into, like, what's the streets out here in Houston?

Like, what's the gas station? Like, it might not be a BP where you battle in that. You're talking about where you're from. It just takes so much thought process to, like, prepare for, I'm just talking about the level that I perform at, you know what I mean? Because even when y'all, like, y'all talk about the money, like,

some of these performances warrant that. You know what I mean? when you get a high-level Tay Rock versus Murder Mook at Gramacy Theater like you talk about hiring because that's what it is we wouldn't be having this

heart of a conversation if the names was Drake and 50 Cent because they masters at a craft. TAY Rock and Murder Mute are masters at their craft. Like these are masters at the battle rap craft so when we talk about because this is what we're trying to sell

so we're trying to sell battle rap So you put these two masters on it. Like name another sport or another league or anything where the best players in the world are not max contract played. These are mass. This is Jason Tate. If you want to talk basketball,

this is fucking Jason Tatum and Anthony Edwards. If you want to talk football, this is freaking Garrett Wilson. This is Mac Wilson. I mean? Matt Wilson. You talking about Patrick Mahomes and these guys are getting big contacts

and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like these is these nickers. Like how do you not give murder moot the maximum to perform a bad? A battle rap at that. Like, you're not asking him to build you a house. You're asking murder MOOC to battle rap.

Facts. A forefather. Fax. And you're asking him to go against surf. So we need that $2.50. Oh, yeah, we've been waiting for you to come home. We need that $250. You in a move battle, definitely, I think.

Can I ask y'all a question? It's definitely going to do yourself for the game. How did this happen? Like, where did this come from? Like, I feel like I missed when this became, like, the most important thing in the world. What? Parker? Moot versus serve.

Oh. I mean, you just came home and then, you know, the streets talk. Right. And then, you know, niggas hear them numbers, 100,000. He won a quarter million. And the streets just talk. So I, so we was like, yo, are they gonna battle or not? I forgot I was just talking about it.

What? And then they were saying that you want 250. What? I think that should be a dope, a dope-ass battle. I think it's something that need to happen. It's like people sweep under the rug the fact Murder Mook said that he looked, it's on YouTube. Hell, no, I won't be the first nigga to stand in front of him when he get home.

I would be, you would be a fucking, I didn't even know you said it. You would be a fucking fool to stand in front of, whoever's standing in front of surf, the first person standing in front of surf would be a fucking fool. That's what murder Mook said. Do that get swept under the rug? Did he ready now? I don't know that.

I mean, shit. That's my murder brother too. Oh man, Mook, you said that? Oh, man. What do you feel was ever your toughest battle? My toughest battle? Ever in like. All of them.

Because I'm battling myself. I'm not never battling the nigger in front of me. Like, it'd be so much shit going on. Like, so much homies locked up and people, my mama need me and my, I'm just trying to get to the battle, make it through the battle, and went and go to a good performance and finish figuring. So I'm battling myself. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, for real, I'm never really battling who and from. I'm better than them niggas. You know what I mean? So I'm never really bad. Like, you might catch me. me on a bad day, but like, even the bad, like, I ain't got no time to cry. I ain't got no time. You feel me?

My uncle died. I'm about the battle. I left my uncle funeral. Like, they took me straight. They had to drive me because I had to go to my uncle funeral. I'm getting ready for Cortez as I'm, like, I'm driving for the funeral to go battle Cortez. Like, I'm talking about get out the car and get on stage.

Like, this is the timing. Like, the minute we get to North Carolina, you're going to have to get on stage. my uncle just died, my best for my Superman. I'm locked up in Detroit preparing for my rounds because when they bail me out, I have to battle Big T. I don't really be battling these niggins.

I'll be battling on. We don't see what we don't see what behind the scenes. That's crazy. From a funeral and jail to a fucking battle? And there's two different times and there's always something. You know what I mean?

Like that's just, you know, this is how I was raised. People ostracize it obviously because of, you know, like, oh, you got all this going on. First of all, y'all, y'all have been in the life. before. You get famous before you get rich. So a nigger looking at fucking Sue surf like. And they're thinking you already got it.

It ain't even there like that. My first battles, I ain't even get, I wasn't getting paid. My first battle was like two, three years in. This shit, just dark. I might have made my first six digits. Talk about that, right? How did you even start, like what made you even, because you're going through mad street shit, right?

Because you come from the hood. What? It's come from the hood, right? What made you even want to battle back? I ain't never want to battle up. I always, my, my, I said all the time in a million interviews, my eighth grade yearbook say rapper, I always love a rap. I never really want a batter rap.

I just be better than things. So it's easy. Like, I, I like to just rap, but if you want to put my raps against your raps, I could do it because I'm better than you. See, but being a rapper and battle rapping is different. Because with that bad rap, so y'all got to stand there, right? It's only different when you separate. And you're a street, too, right?

So, niggas are sitting there, and niggas are saying all this extra disrespect. How do you take that shit like that? Like when niggas is, you just tune that shit out? Like all the disrespectful shit niggas is sitting there just saying in your face. Respectfully, like, my name precedes itself, right? Like, the average person that I'm battle rapping against, the Google don't match the raps. So I never take it personal. Like, you only calling me a crab because we're on stage.

Like, you know what I mean? But this is documented, though, humbly. You know what I mean? Like, you could Google souserf, smash them. I'm not glorifying it. But this is what the fuck is going on. It's my real life. You know what I'm saying?

So it's like nine times out of ten when I'm battling somebody, I'm battling somebody one that's just doing a job. Got you. But this is like I'm like you could and I said time and time again, like you could read the discovery and listen to the battles. In them hallways. I mean, that wasn't Broadway. I was raising in the sun.

I said that directly after cup. I battled run nitty and said, We were shooting all day. That wasn't Broadway. I was raising in the sun. I just came home from shooting at 10 a.m. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm not going to blow the bag

because young niggas is talking crazy. Because I know who I really is for real. Why would I tweak out on somebody that really don't mean that? You just rap? You're trying to, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not the toughest nigga in the world. I don't really care how the outcome turn out.

Like the real street niggas don't care. I don't care, but you're not going to play with me, though. Of course. You know what I'm saying? I don't really, you could beat me up. Of course. It's happy. It's happening.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't really care about that. But it's not going to be, but I know he'll make no disrespect. Got you. Yeah, it's the talk of New York, Tony. Hey-o. And it's the Boy Uncle Murder, aka Lear Jet Lenny. It's the real report show.

And you know what, Lenny? What's that, man? I know, I know we just came back from Paris. Yeah. And one thing that I always realize, and you always realize is just the water feels different everywhere we go. It do. I feel like it irritates my skin.

I ain't going front. Yeah, yeah. I know what you talk about, man. And that's why I never leave home without my basket lather. I told you I was going to show you y'all a little bit of the wave. Okay, you got the waves going. All right. Make sure you get that close up on that.

You know what, I'm saying? Definitely, my man. You know what Lidgett Lenny? What's that turbulence, Tony? I'm going to put you on game to some basket lather products. Me, I'm going with the beard growth for fuller, thicker hair. And there's a young sister that's running the whole thing too. I think that's dope.

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C.O.com. Cold Real Report. Whoa! Yeah! But how did you transition? Because usually battle rappers are stuck in the boxes like, yo, they can't make records. Right. But when I listen, you got plenty of albums out there.

Like I said, you was on. I never stopped. Like, I was rapping regular before, like, you guys, Mom Dukes. Like, Mom, like, I'm 18 moms. Like, before Battlewrap, like, why don't get a job? I'm working on the mixtape, my shit, my, shut up. Like, there's always been like that. Like, you know what I mean?

I always been just, that's how I like the rap. You feel me? I type of shit like that. And then even the first, my first battle event, it was, or battle rap, it was in a garage, right? But it was supposed to be at a venue. But the niggas that put together that event, they asked me to perform. Like, they were doing a whole thing.

Like, they were doing a whole little thing, like a whole little performances with battles. Right, right. Right? This is all the way back in 07, 08. I mean, so they just want me to just rap like a regular performer song. And then he called me the day of like,

yo, man, the whole venue got shut down. Fire hazards just down the third. Yo, you want to battle? I'm like, he like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, all right, I'll battle, cool, whatever. He's like, all right, I'm going to send you the address. And, uh, I'm going to see the address tonight. I'm like, all, cool.

At the time I'm living on Osborne Terrace and North, he sent me the address. That's it on Shepherd. Like, not literally, but we walked out the house and walked around the corner. You know what I mean? It was at somebody else's house in a garage. You feel me?

So I battled in the garage that day and like, and I think I batted one more time in the garage like two, three days later, and then like a week later, smack called me. Or Beasley or one of them. I want to hear that quarantine joint. How was it? Because I felt it.

pain. And what's that? It was like you, you was on a jail call, spitting balls to a beat on a quarantine. Nah, you might be talking on the jail call. You're talking about onazi shit. You're talking about it. Oh, yeah, free surf on Mazi.

Man, I, like, that right there. That right there. Like, bro, like, to me, you my favorite rapper as, is coming from battle rapper. Right. You know what I'm saying? You know, the victory shit with Leaf Ward. Right.

How you get up a Leaf Ward? Free Leaf Ward, man. Murder put me on a leaf, bro. Listen, it's only, I just was talking about this off camera. There's only a couple of men that, like, make me work hard, pause in the studio. You know what I mean? I'm talking about that type of like, well, you're in your phone writing your shit, you got to peek up and see if he's done or if he's working like, what this nigga on.

Because he'd be talking that shit. You could play that? He'd be talking that shit. On that GBL. You can't play. I want to clear that if he played that on here? The label? We can clear that.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's my. Yeah. Play that joint real quick. But, yeah, Mazzie. Mazzie going to make you work. You was really, you was really in jail call doing that? Yeah, I did that in the spot.

That shit was, yo, you got to hear, yo. I got to hear that shit. Yeah, Mazzie going to make you work. Leif War will make you, like, Leap war, victory and perks and paranoia. The niggas are going to make you work. No funny shit. And it's funny because I really feel like,

me knowing it, like, niggas be ducking certain niggas because, like, some niggas is really, really, like, for real, Niggas be like, niggas get so crafty in that room. Like it's some real rappers out there. Benny the Butchers,

you know what I'm like that. It's like, to my guy, Benny the butcher. I got him on a new project I'm about to drop that person out of the bench. Yo, like Benny get in that room and get crafty, you feel me.

It's a million niggers I'm not because we talk and it's a, I could name. Of course, I can name 15 other niggas right now that's like, but it's niggas that make you work for real. You get what I'm saying? And those, them type of niggas,

those type of niggas I like to rap with. But a lot of niggas don't like to rap with us. Who put the, um, RICO Part 1 up on YouTube? I watched that over there. Make sure y'all pre-order Rico, too. I pre-orded that motherfucker. I appreciate that. It's love.

It's coming out. Rico September 10th. Jersey on the bill. RICO, y'all heard that. Shout out Herb on that bitch, Mazz on that bitch. Yeah, I heard this song with R-T-G. Yes. I mean, I shout out the homie.

Vore you on there, hit Maker, help me down. I mean, pull it right out. I mean, shout out the key, can you. Oh, man. That shit. I feel, because you know what, I like that pain music. Me too. Like when I hear you, Al Bial, certain niggers.

Shout out the Al Bial, Big Jersey. Shout out to my guy, Al Bial, Jersey. You listen to the pain music. You just feel like, yo, this, this New York jersey shit is making a comeback, bro. Niggas is coming with the man. Hold up, hold up, baby. Bring that bell. Bring that from the top.

He used to be my dog. He a frog could be told. You ever want to chill, but they are doing a genius breakdown. Let's listen to this way. Let's listen to this way. Go, man. surf. That's a bug.

I'm going to be with the plug. Never cooperated with the fuzz. It's still love. But some shit, it just never be what it was. Some shit ain't supposed to change. Shame when it does. Court cases took slow. Rico came.

I ain't bud. Should the shrubs. Shit. I ain't trying to say that I'm a thug. I was just the only cuss doing burpees with the blood. Woo. Temperature change in interrogation. Niggas froze.

They were in the wrong nigga telling shit hurts your soul. The fakes get exposed. He used to be my dog. He a fraud. because he told you ever wanted to chill but they up so ain't no chilling out ever had that thrill on the drill know what that feel about ever trust the nigger but you didn't had to fill them out ever had a family hate you because you bailed the kill out who we don't want just anybody now i want the coldest i tell all the killers killer killer that's a bonus if you hit a bishop or a rook you

get a roly but i pay double double for a king like sabonis i just buy shit wait for a drought and then i tax niggas fine and my back big Find you a humble little bitch And then you stack with it Cool, perfect I let cat liquor Shit Still free the savages

So I gave him status Hmm Hit that nigga cabbage Of course it's Crip But that G-wagon Bitcha brabis Try and paint the nigga evil They forget you

To they realize they need you Level 7 pin locked down Bump and Siegel taught me love hurts Like the Packers versus the Eagles Like I don't really write shit Because it's real life shit Three cosigners, two houses, still a flight risk.

Judge a black woman, my prosecutor of a white bitch. Cuzz gave me coging products in the ice pick. Codging products in the ice pick. He both took the time. He copped out the 20. His daddy took a dime. I feel sorry for his daughter. I feel bad for his mom.

They did that court shit together before Brani and LeBron. This is what the game is missing. So not a living room. So they did that court shit together before Brony. 30s had switches. Homies ain't your homie. Hey, circles a snitchin' tour. We're in the death.

They're throwing numbers. I'm praying for a 10 or less. You tell, we gotta kill you. Tough love. I love my men to death. It seemed like every time she says she bought the nut, you have a minute left. I hate those.

For state clothes. I get the mail stamps from the bank. Ask the ops, we chase down like the bent clothes. You want to appreciate that to that gate clothes. I'm tired of this street shit. Had to watch my daughter to graduate. to graduate from a free print. Can you picture that?

60 months for them hammers, ain't no telling what they're talking if a switch attached. I ain't let it pain out. He was on lockdown. They found out his mother had died till he came out. He was looking to some bunk for some days

and the days just dazed out. And I know that's pain. Ouch. For they ain't respected. They gave a driver more than the shooter because of his record. He only lost an eye on that scuff with that shit a blessing.

They waited till he got in the shower. They caught him naked. Norris, baby. mother of freak she got him stressing how you know that gun even work if you never tested shit we was guilty of stepping if they take an alpha to cap a alpha now when you spit that and i know niggas i know niggas i know niggas was loving you in that motherfucker like hold on spit some shit i know i know i know you're i'm not rhyming for everybody but come on i ain't rap one i ain't rap in four years i wrote all i wrote my whole bid you asked me but i ain't

I ain't rap for four. I ain't one of them niggas. I'm not, like, again, humbly. Like, I, I feel like, I hate that. I got to say, they're not humbly, because Steve get on my ass about that. You don't say humble because that's belittling yourself. You say modestly.

Humble, you have to lower yourself to be humble. But if you being modest, you know what I mean? It's different. So modestly is like when I get, when I get into them and it's fucked up, but once you go behind that wall, like I'm no longer entertained. I got to be in certain time.

I'm not your entertainment. I'm trying to survive. Fuck, I look like in here rapping for you, Because niggas get stabbed, hit with locks and all that shit's mad shit going on. I'm like... No, I know you're not just rap, yeah. At all. I'm just saying, like...

Level 7 pin at all. Me being in the yard and hearing that shit, that shit would have made my day. Oh, no, that's what I said? Oh yeah, that's like, oh yeah, no, download it on the kiosk. It came out, listen, they called me on Thursday and said, we need you on Mazi tape. I wrote it that weekend. They put it on the tape. The tape came out Tuesday.

Everybody had it Wednesday. You want to hear me go download, download, type of, I'm not a yard, nigga, type so surfing on the kios. No, I know that, boy. Type two surfing on the key. Exactly. I know you. Oh, no, I'm not saying it to you.

But just them balls right there when I've been listening to. That's pain, for sure. That shit had me in the whip like, oh my God. This, this, nigga. I appreciate that. No, but I'm just, I was just saying, why, you feel me? It's like, that life, like, that, like, that level seven penitentiary shit is like, it ain't no time for like, you don't even want to open the door.

Like, like, like. You could think in jail, you think about, like, if you, this is fucking Tony A. Uncle Murdy. I said spit something. I got you. In the yard, the nigga, I'm picturing and you by the phone and you spit in that and the nigger next to you, got to be like, yo, this nigga. Oh, yeah, nah, nah, I just wait till everybody, like, everybody went to the child.

Everybody went the child, the unit cleared out. And then I just- Oh, you was in your own zone. Yeah, I just kicked up and then, yeah. You know what that nigga said? You know what that nigga said? I mean, I waited till the chicken Thursday. I see what Jay was trying to say, it was trying to say, damn, nigger. Oh, like a nigger.

me tweaking while I say that. I'm just like in your house and I'm hearing you tweaking like. Right, right. Right. Because I'm hearing on the phone to her, mama. I'm like, yeah. Got you. Who the fuck was saying?

Yeah. Nah, I waited to them niggas, them loud. Free my dogs. And it was pain music. It wasn't no bullshit. That's not microwave music. Of course. That's music.

I could live, listen to 10, 20 years down. Man, free canin. Man, them loud ass, silly ass, ass, yeah, free all I wait till. I wait till chicken Thursday. And then everybody, nobody missed chicken Thursday. I wait today, chicken Thursday. Y'all, tell Devo, y'all, shout out Devo Amazi.

Oh, look, I'm gonna call you at 12. That's what niggas's going to child. And barring the deuce is the alarm don't go off. I'm gonna call you at 12. Everybody go to child is empty in here. Just the only person they hit me is to see her, you know what I mean? Like that. So I waited purposely to, you know what I mean,

till everybody left so I could have, so he could get some clear takes. I appreciate that. What you said, the son got a dime, his pop's got a 20? Yeah. Shit like that. You went crazy on that. I appreciate that. But now when you hit victory.

doing that corset before Brownie and Brown. I know some fathers. Like, I know some, like, I know some niggas on the yard. Like, like, he and B2, his son and C1. Like, nigga tell him like, yeah, now my pop, like, I got the ass crazy, right, sir? Like what? He's like, yo, I got the pops. I got the sell my pops had.

You know what I mean? Like, like, for real, bro. Like, you know what I mean? It really be like that for real. So that's just my, like, that shit be my truth. Like, it'd be hard for me to, that's kind of why I got into a lot of the shit that I got into growing up, though, you feel me? because I never was one of them niggas like you could go back to my raps.

I never rapped about the car with the doors going up because I ain't never sat in one of them shit. But that's me though. Like my music is therapeutic for me. That's my life. So I ain't really talking about too much shit that I ain't do or I'm going to do or I'm about to do or somebody close to me dead. You know what I mean? So I'm really from the projects for real like from no like the box.

So I ain't ever see none of that other shit. Facts. So I ain't, you know what I mean? Don't worry. It's Patty. It's Patty. He's good. He did, he did 39 years.

He's right. I love you, Patty. It's all good, Patty. We ain't tripping for you. I'm glad you guys don't ring, Patty. Now, look. Now, in the building, we got damn in almost 50 years of time. Patty did 38.

Your man did 20. Yeah, flags home. And you did 20. And you did four, right? In my mind, do you look at prison as a business? It is a business. It is a business. It is a, when you start going in there and see it now,

when you could, like, I mean, it's two businesses, though. Are we talking about, like, we could talk about the white folks first. You know what I mean? We talk about that business where, you know, a jackmat cost $2.30 and everybody ain't got to eat commerce every. You take all their clothes and take everything and then make them buy clothes and buy, you know, buy phone minutes and buy.

It is a business. Yeah, AT&T, MCI. Yeah, I'm getting X amount of dollars for every inmate in here. This is for sure a business. Yes, every bed is accounted for. Exactly, yeah. This is a big business. You know what I mean?

And then you got actually the, I'm getting. the idea of, like I said, jail is its own world. Jail is its own business too. You got niggas in there washing clothes for coffee and, you know what I mean? And it's like, it's nothing wrong with that.

You know what I mean? Like, you got niggas in there, like, you need your room clean? Like, you got niggas in there that have businesses. That's why I said there's no excuse. I know the candy man. You feel me for real?

Like, I know Brother Bilal like from Canaan. He got, you go in his room. He got, you go to his locker. He got all types of different flavors. Yeah, this is the passion fruit dinner. He mixed in the Keefei drink mixed with the creamer and the making

a kid he got a whole business running and he's making four five hundred dollars a month facts I know because I'm spending a hundred dollars with him in there guaranteed I'm sending him cash out I call baby girl hey yo cash up him a hundred dollars a bit I'm getting my when I want I got his niggas in there that's

scraping the the paint off their desk and putting the fire up under their seat and making a grill, niggas selling raps and he making four five six seven hundred dollars a month I always wonder how motherfuckers get so creative in prison, you ain't got no choice. It's crazy.

If I lock you in a bathroom, you'll be surprised what you'll figure out. You'll be surprised what you'll figure out. Like, how do you figure out that if you take a piece of brillo and scratch off a dora cell and put one side to the other side

in the middle of the brillo going light? Who the fuck thinks of that? You lock a man in a room and you'd be surprised what they'll figure out. It's some geniuses in it. Bro, I told you, I'd never forget this. I was in Rikers Island. I'm in two-up up, and, you know, niggas did time before.

It's my first time on the island. And it's little guns again, Bino. These niggas, young niggas. And they're like, yo, yo, later on tonight, yeah, yo, I got something for you. And I'm like, all, cool. So it was Kay Slay time, lock in, rest of peace, Kay Slay. I love some peace lay. And I never forgot this.

And once Kay Slay came on, nigg was like, yo, yeah, yo, shit is coming now. So that's when I was introduced to fishing. So the nigger fished me a joint lit already. So I'm chilling in my room, have no jail experience, a joint just come flying under my door. Right. And he's 15 cells down.

He's 15, he's all the way down to tear. I'm like, oh shit, how the fuck he do that? He fished a joint murder. Pitch I just fit. You way down the block, bro. You took him blocks away. And you just fucking, I got you, bro. I just chill.

And you fish. And the joint comes right under your fucking cell, bro. That's great. That's like, you got to see a spider web, like, a spider web. What's the spider web? Like, we'd be, like, we down for 90 days, 80 days. It gets to the point, but like, you got store men in there, right? Like, so you might have a dude who family take real good care of him.

So he'd go on four, five different accounts. So he just bought mad commissary. So he got hell of shit in his room. So now he's the store man. He's two for one in everybody. That's his business. You know what I mean? You, yo, let me get a honeybuntill commissary.

All right, I need two back. or you could cash app him. He'd make a bag for you, $40 bag, whatever. So his room would be up 132. Right. You know what I mean? Way up there. We down two or two.

So he might, his line can't come all the way down to me to 128. So he might shoot from 322 to 305. And then 305 shoot got a, he got a line too all the way across the unit now to this side. And you'll look up and it'll be a spider web up there like all the units getting to it. Because everybody needs something, right? Gotcha. So we yelling through the door, like, yo, let me get three coffees.

You feel me? So he, all right, I got you. This cell need two bags of chips. This cell need, you'll look up and... Just mad fishers. Just mad fishing line. Niggas just pulling. Everybody worked.

No funny. And as funny as it sounds, it's crazy as it sound. Like, nah, like, it takes me to even talk about it. Like, nah, like, men is in a fucked up situation. There's niggas in there that still smiling and still making that shit work. Facts. No funny shit. Make eggs with a light.

Muffer fucker make coffee. Taking some putting, No one they body, we gotta do this for the next 10-15. Crazy is that sound? No funny shit, like, there's niggas in there. Like, that shit actually, when y'all make me think about, it's niggas in there, that's all right. And I don't mean good, like, want to be in there,

but it's niggas in there, but it's niggas in there, smiling for real. And that, like, and that make me feel good. Once that shit touched down, right, they're doing that shit, and tuts, he's like, oh, shit. He got some, no, for all he wanted the bag of, like, mine said that one of his raps.

And he just, like, nigger be going through the most. Nika, you can't talk to your baby minds. You can't talk to your daughter. Nigger just wants some coffee. Nigger just want a shot of cup. I'm not saying he just want to shot a baffy. See, I just knew the fishy. That nix said the spider way.

You see, maddened. You see madder, that shit ain't. That is crazy. For real, for real, man. Free the men, for real. Free the whole can. What would you tell the kids, man, not to come to prison? What's the best thing you would tell them?

Oh, it's just simple. It's not worth it. It don't, the end don't justify. the means. And that's normally, as humans, that's probably why we do everything. Normally you do something because what you want to get out of it. The end don't justify the means. If you could name me five big homies that made it out that got a mansion kids happy with their family with a house picket fence, I'd go back. Name them. Go ahead. Pistoo Pee under the ground. Facts. They got Pistoo Pee and Joe Pistoo Pee got to read his mail

off a TV screen. But one guy that said my guy, Frank Matthews, they don't know what he might, but he might have been the greatest to do it. You ever read of Frank Matthews? Frank Matthews got away. He's from Brooklyn. He's from Brooklyn. He's from North Carolina. But he had got snatched up, but then he had got out on bail and disappeared with $20 billion. Oh, so I would like to call him a 1% of 0.0.0.0.01%.

You better believe it. The status, you don't come with nothing. It don't. It don't. All the big homies got forever or they're in jail, period. Or did both the niggas that raised me is gone. My big bro got 20. Like I gotta talk to him through a computer for the rest of my life.

I probably never see him again. I have to survive 28 years to see one of my best friends again. Because they ain't gonna let me in the jail to see him. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like I have to survive 28 years just to see my dog. You know what I'm saying? Like the end don't justify the means.

Like that's- This shit ain't work, but. It don't add up. Like none of it. Like get back, I got it. I'm telling you I've been there. Like I know what get back feel like and it still don't feel good. Like bro still dead.

But niggas ain't gonna tell you that because the rap sound better though. Of course. You better believe it. You got to believe it. You got to believe it. It's not one-one. It's zero-zero. But I can't say that because that don't sound cool in the rap. It ain't one-one. You got mine. I got yours. My nigger's still dead. Facts. I'm still feeling that pain. It's still zero for me. I ain't up to school. And, you know, you got to go through it and you know you spend some shit and you do what you got to do.

Whatever. It don't change nothing. Yeah. It don't change nothing. Like the goal is for them to not get up on you. Once he got, he got. I ain't saying don't spin. We're having a dead homie and 30 years, just the math is nasty math. It is. It is.

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you better be hitting the ground going hard in the South now. And download Roland Martin Unfiltered on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts. See, but now let's start getting to a deeper conversation. Like, why can't, like, at what point can I ripped up the paper? That you signed through, that you signed? At what point can that, nigga? I know, we real street.

Like, I'm a reputable from here to like LA. Like, I'm a reputable. At what point? And I'm not even talking about me. I'm standing on my shit all over my body. I'm probably going to die like this. Respect. I'm talking about the average.

A little nigga 18 and say I want to join. At what point he can't, let's say he changed his mind at 21. I'm not talking about no hot rat shit. I'm talking about, you know what? I try it. I don't like. Because if you go have some fucking sushi, you start like, you go, you go sign up for the fucking to go into a fucking water park.

And when you're ready to go, you get the fuck out of there. So you mean to tell me if a little nigger join the gang got 18 and at 21 and say I'm done. But me speaking off experience. Hold on. Hold up to. Hold on. Hold up. You drop the flag.

That's good. I like that. I like what he's doing. What I'm trying to say is from me speaking of experience, right? And from what you said, right, when you see somebody that did something to a homie yours. Right. And you're ready. What?

And just, you don't plan it. Like you said, we don't plan this. sometimes, but we know what we know what we involved in, right? What? And like you said, you just, you're chilling and you happen to see, yo, son, they go something that did such and such a son. Just allegedly whatever happened happens, right? You know what I'm here?

But that mentality don't, how we tell like the young is like, I. You know the only time a lion don't act like a lion. Like put like this, do you regret, you, you don't regret nothing. You don't regret nothing. You don't regret nothing. You never regret nothing, right? That's not what I'm talking about the, because you said we signed up for something. Of course.

Right? And I'm just speaking like what, like, so somebody can't, I'm talking about somebody else, they can't like, you can't rip the paper up. Of course you can. All right, that's all you can. Of course you can. Fax, my nigga, of course, of course. Because the, essentially the question is derived from the, the, what would you say to the kids?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, even if you do get jumped in, like let's stop making some fake false Like me getting jumped into this shit don't mean I can't say you know what I want to go to fucking Electricity I want to be electricity the best the best school is in Texas I'm out I want to go to I want to be an engineer the best school is at fucking Johnson and Wells in Virginia I'm going go don't let them niggas trick you when to talk about you got jumped in this shit for life you got you if you want to do something else like don't say fuck me and you

still live in a project building and it matter of fact you could say that too knowing what I know now You say if I'm on some goofy shit And you say fuck me cool Right That's it That's just as men right now I got you As a man

If you decide You don't want to do this shit no more That's cool Because then when you look up And you jammed up Because when you do get jammed ass knickers And now everybody want to scream about Y'all is making niggas

Like you could turn somebody into a killer That don't mean snitching Not snitching could be always in his heart But we turned them into We keep making him slide But he's been a bitch Because that's the niggas Don't understand

Like even that bitch There's frequencies with that. I know the softest nigger from some, from my projects, that a dog walk, the toughest nigga from another projects. You know what I mean? Like, it's levels to that gangster shit. You know what I'm saying?

So now you put a nigger like, if six of us do drugs and one of us don't, he got a better chance of starting to do drugs than we do stopping. Because it's more of us. Facts. Right. Y'all keep making this bitch-ass nigger get in the car.

Mm-hmm. Knowing he don't really want to be in this mother. Now you look up and the nigger do got nine bodies in three attempts. And y'all think he the realest nigga in the world because he shot a gun. Then as soon as he get caught, you wondering why all of y'all went down. I don't think the nigga that shot for me won't tell on me. I think the nigga that called my mother while I was locked up and I wasn't there to check. The nigga that called my mother and asked her, was she straight and was my daughter good?

I know for a fact he won't tell on me. Just because you shot for me. You the nigger with the gun. You better shoot. You better shoot. That's why I always got in trouble Because I was the one with the gun That's the job

That's the job Right to believe it That don't mean you're not gonna tell Like just because the nigger shoot That's not We talk about character If you got the gun I'm not promoting that

That's street law If we all out Everybody ain't got a gun That's just not how it worked It's probably one or two blicks It's full five, seven of us One or two blicks If you got the gun

It's because you So you better shoot when it get ugly Facts That don't mean that that nigga Ain't no soft nigga y'all keep trying to turn niggas into niggas that they not. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Character like, niggas ignore red flags. It's the smallest red flags. These niggas don't be who they say they is. When you see, like for instance, you see like dirt case, right? Niggas that, you know, he took care of, gave him money. Spooky. You know what I'm saying? You feel like the streets is over?

Like, because it just be feeling like niggas go out their way. You could show your loyalty to somebody. I think the streets never. But then somebody's back on it, is on the stand telling on you. I think the streets never started and we had a false pretense of that shit and loved it, love something that's really not there. Like it's not, like, niggas act like it was a time and it was a time, it was a time a day when niggas wasn't telling.

No, it just wasn't Instagram. Facts. I look at a different. I'm not refuting what you saying. No, no, no, I agree with you. But even now, right, Patty, Steve, everybody, people at this time, right? Look at the technology now. We got, we got red light cameras.

Ring cameras. We got ring cameras. Yes. We got flock cameras. We got police got drones now. They got license plate readers. They got face who recognition. Yo, we went from overseas.

I took my fingerprints. They said, yeah, we got your fingerprints in every country. You're the only one because they got that shit now. Oh, from that face who recognition, all that shit now. It just seemed like no matter what you do, O'Riko's going to come because you're on camera. You got your cell phone with you. Back in the days, we had fucking. and flip phones and beepers, nothing wasn't tracking you.

It's like between the technology and niggas telling because of the technology. Oh, no. It just seemed like the game is like. Oh, you broke that down for me. Oh, that makes all the sense in the world. That's the fact. I even looked at a little different when you say it like that. It's like, shit.

It's like if you squeeze in the juice out of something, it's no more, like, it's no more juice in the orange, you throw the orange away. Like if you, from that perspective that you just broke it down, meaning there's nothing left of the product. I'm with you a thousand percent. Like, you'll be a fool right now. If you were standing on the corner right now and you sell to 20 people,

nine times out of 10, six of them people was confidential inform me. Like, the cop, the Fed that locked me up, right? So we sitting in front of the county jail at the time and the door still locked like the gate because they got to pull up to the gate, press the buzzer, say who they are, let them in because the Fed is going to take you to your nearest county.

Right. So they take me to Essus County. So we're sitting there waiting for the cops to come out and get me, but it's hot in the car. So the Fed dude took me out. He takes me out the car. And we just sitting there, we lean in it and we talking. And the first thing I said to him, I'm like,

hey, are you like Grant F. Otto? Like that. He like, yeah, why? I'm like, because our indictment was sealed, meaning I still don't know what I'm locked up for. I'm like, so if this was Grant F. Otto, right, how many stars I got? Like, so I'm joking with the way. I'm like, yo, how many stars I got? Like, I got five.

Yeah, I'm like, I got three stars. I got five. He starts laughing hard as hell. You feel me? Like, I'm caught. I'm caught now. You feel me? I'm trying to figure out.

He's like, he probably got like three and a half like that. I'm like, oh, all right. That's not bad. I know if it was a, yeah, I know if it was a man down or a hat or some shit. He probably would say five. You know, like, he said three and a half. I'm like, okay, cool, cool, right. You know what I mean?

There's some light at the end of the ton of here. There's no funny. In my mind, I'm trying to play with him and make a joke because we were talking a whole car ride. I'm asking him like, yo, man, with 60 cars out there, man, like, it's that deep for a little old me. I'm just trying to fish and shit and they seem like young dudes or whatever. So fast forward all that.

That was funny. I'm trying to break. All that up there for a little old beat. I'm talking to them in the car. And I'm trying to break it down. So as we waiting for the dudes, you know what I mean? And I feel like that's what got this statement out of him for me. Like me, how cool I was the whole time.

He's like, he's saying he grabbed his vest. You know how them cops do? He's like, man, I don't know why y'all do it. Like that. I'm like, what? He's like, this street shit. And I laugh. I'm like, what you mean?

He like, shit, we got about 400 confidential. informants in here and we have about about at least another 350, 400 confidential informants in Essex County right now working actively on payroll and that shit just gave me the cheers. The motherfucker's making two,

300 a year being a confidential informant. Don't say that number again, please. No, I'm just saying. They hear that like this. No, because I heard I've just heard that. I know what you mean. I ain't lie, no, it is. He ain't lying. He ain't lie. But fast fuck that.

Got shot five times. prison, now we got the music. I just heard the record with cocky, ka. That's a shout to cocky ka. Shame on me, shout to Kaki Kahn. Shout to Brooklyn, man. So, Brooklyn, you know the vibes, man. So how'd you go about that with Kaki Kau?

Because like you're doing shit with all the right artists. Right, shout out the Kaki Kau. Bani Kau. Benny the Butcher. Yeah. The Vosier record is dope. Right. Shout to Fresh, I just came home.

Like, I wasn't, first of all, Steve was on my ass about like, pause about like, the coming home. You're going on point. about the coming home and doing the rapper shit. And like I'll say it because the nigger shit. You feel me? Like I'm talking to Steve. I'm like, yeah, nah, the jet from Michigan

or the dude. Steve like, fuck, get the fuck out of here. We're not doing none of the, you know what? So I kind of changed my mindset and I said, you know what? The first three, four months that I get home, I'm not doing nothing. I'm not showing my face.

I'm not, these niggas got like, I just was going for my daughter for four years. Like, you feel me? My mom, my support system. Like, the first thing you do is go to start. Got to get some real lifetime. Right, right, right. Like, yeah, fuck on a lot.

You said, the first thing you do is go to Starlets. Right. You ain't, you ain't eat with your daughter. You ain't, I had to have a conversation with, you know what I mean? Like my mom's, see where I had at, let her feelings. I was taken abruptly from her. It's a different conversation on the federal floor, visit floor than it is. I'm free now.

What's up? Like, how do we got to go? Like, I hurt your feelings. How could I fix that? What could we do? I got to have conversations with multiple people. I got to have business conversations with multiple people. I got to get a bag.

I got to get a bag. It just wasn't in me like don't meet me outside with five chains, three rose voices. I don't want to walk outside to the fake shit because none of that shit really even mad in life. Like, you know what I mean? Like if you can't be out there with a bag of peace, you know what I mean? A brick of a love. I like that. I like that.

You know what I'm saying? Like that type of shit. So in the midst of that, to go back to your question, in the midst of me sitting down for three, four months and getting myself together and my mental too. because mental health, Matt, like that's a whole other conversation as far as men. But getting my mental together, I'm also taking in,

I'm being an artist, I'm studying who hot, who dope, who in right now, what podcast is in right now? Shout out to y'all, shout out of a lot of podcasts that I want to do. I was beasting to ask Steve,

I was beasting to get out with y'all. Come on, come on. I mean, I need to get with y'all. You all the big homies, you feel me? So I'm doing my homework and I come across cockycom. Like, man, this kid is phenomenal. Definitely.

He's special. Definitely. You got me. And so I hear his line. My backyard, East New York. Yeah, definitely. Brooklyn. So I'm like, dog, special, you feel me?

I shot him with some records. And then we had formerly met at Summer Jam. What I mean? I performed at Summer Jam. He performed that Summer Jam. We bumped into each other. You know what I mean? We got to the studio.

Man, I get in there, and I'm thinking we're about to, you know, throw some beats on and figure something out. You know, him in there, fresh in there. Shout out of Fresh. That's my dog. Shout to Freshier in the building. Another Brooklyn, East New York native right there. I ain't gonna lie.

And not because you're a Brooklyn, nigga, right? But just because I know I, yo, y'all spit out some quality niggers. Of course, man. I mean that, like, no,

I've been around a lot of places around a lot of people. Brooklyn spit out some, it's some shady shit going on in Brooklyn. Oh, man. That's Brooklyn. Yeah. That's why it's Brooklyn.

Yeah, it's inside Brooklyn. Like, when you, when you, what's the word I'm looking for? I want to say abstract. When you abstract the man, when you abstract the nigger

from Brooklyn, though, and we just talking about the nigger, Brooklyn makes some good niggies. Definitely, man. Definitely, man. But through the niggas. Definitely, man. So I'm thinking we about to just throw the beats on this shit like that and, uh, he's like,

nah, I got this shit for you. And I hear that shit. I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, yeah, I got this, this easy. Like, you know what I mean? Pain music, man. That shit, I love that one. When it's your life is easy.

You know what I mean? Like, some nigg's like, oh, I get, how do you get, how do you get, like, writers block and all this shit? Like, I got too much going on to get writers blocked. Like, all this shit be my life. Like, you know what I mean? So that shit, once I heard that shit. I feel sometimes you've been rapping for so long, like, I did, right?

How do I talk about my life again, like, and keep reinventing myself a little? Like, how do I switch it up and still? Because, you know, the streets still want to hear certain shit from you. Right. Even though you might not be in the streets like you used to be. Right? But you still going on you, when you're giving these, talk on these projects, you're still going to talk your street shit. Right.

So you don't think sometimes it be a little hard, like, damn, how do I remix my life now to still get the streets what they're looking for? I think it's pretty easy. I think I could, as a up-and-coming artist that's from a trench level, I could look at, I could look at the career as a Jada kiss and look at the career as Uncle Murder and say, these niggas have been their self from the trenches and are black men doing very well okay. Like, I don't need to be the best, biggest, wildest artist in the world. Got you.

That's a fact. I need to be okay. I could look at Uncle Murder and say, he's doing well. I could look at Jada kiss and say he's doing well. Oh, right. It's light at the end of the tunnel for me. As long as your core fans fuck with you and they rocking with you, I'm good. Jada Kiddiquet said that you can survive with a thousand fans.

That's a fact. You can survive for the rest of your life. I don't need a hundred million people to know me. It's a lot of pressure. I feel like skills paid bills because a lot, people don't accept battle rappers is fucking good rappers all the time. They try to keep y'all in a box. Like, all right, cool.

He could battle, but his record is fucking bullshit. No what I'm saying? But when I see you, I see the transition. Like, when I hear the record with cocky-cai-kind, right? When I hear you with Lee Ford, I'm going. I'm like, how do you get to the Leaf Wardship? Because I hear Victory Lab and I hear Perks and Paranoia. And that was a dope.

I'm a super fan. I'm like, I'm going to be a thousand. Free Leaf Ward again. Super, super free leaf. Like, modestly, I'm a rapper as rapper. Like, that's my thing. If I call you to rap, you nice. Period.

Leaf Ward is every is nice. And I just reached out, you feel me? And, you know, like nine times out of it. 10, well, since I've seen in my life, nine times out of 10, when I reach out to a dope rapper, they know who I am already. Facts. You know what I mean? Of course, man.

Of course, man. You're like, you're like, you're one of them niggins that don't think you'll start. You mean, they curse me out all the, they curse me out all the time about that shit. So, surf right this. Everybody knows you, they're like, all of the time. They're like, yo, why you be acting like you ain't, you know what I mean? Because it's, I say the same story is going to sound repetitive, but it's like, if 20 dogs is in the backyard and one dog got on a gold collar with diamonds in it.

who don't know he got a gold collar with diamonds on. Mm-hmm. The dog. I can't see these chains. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I can't see none of this shit that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't see what it looked like. Oh, sir walking in with football.

Because all I know is who I am. Right. I'm just being myself. Yo, look, grab the driver, grab the bitches, grab this. So another nigga looking like, he just walked in with, I'm just walked. You know what I mean? So you kind of get caught up. But I got to stop doing that because that's how you slip back into them old habits and shit like that.

Because everybody ain't happy for you. Fuck no. Everybody ain't happy for you, man. Hell no. Like, we don't live in a world. Like, life too hard to be like, and not saying you can't be happy for nobody, but you should, like, you just be so focused on yourself. It ain't even that people don't need to be happy for you.

He's just so focused on my own shit. Facts. Not facts. I ain't got time to be happy for you. Not facts. So you're right, like a thousand percent. Like, either they ain't. Come around looking all good, looking like you just living your best life,

niggily. Guarantee. I mean, you know what it is. You just know he a real nigger just because skills pay the bills and you can just know when the real nigger is saying some real shit. Like even when I look at Rico, Paul 1, make sure y'all watch that on YouTube. Right. Like, you got a young kid walking through the hood going through all this shit.

They're chilling, meet up with the homies. They're talking and these niggins get blitzed by the police. Then he go, get on the bus, some other shit happened. And at the end of the day, the end of the video, I love that video too. The thought of it and everything like that has substance to it. It's just not microwave music. What? He goes and hugs his mom.

That's his grandma, right? Right. his grandma, right? And she's looking at the niggas in the car. Like, yeah, the nigga ain't get no trouble with them niggas. It's like real life shit, bro. So I got it for like, so my mindset was just like, I'm just trying to be different. Like, like, because it's not one song.

If you pay attention, there's like five songs from my tape on there. I was just thinking from a promotional standpoint, right? Yeah, music was switching up. Right. And then even like, like, so the headphone, my thought process with the headphones, right, is like I just look at my younger self, right? Shout out to my little bro, too. he wanted the best boxes in North.

I was. That show of the video was crazy. So music was always my, my third, my life. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying? Like, and either I could have kept my headphones on, from an analogy standpoint. I could have kept my headphones on, or I could have stayed on the porch. Or I could have been the nigger running in the store, shit like that.

So my thought process, what it was, the headphones make him bulletproof. So if you notice every time he put the headphones on, like that, why were the cops run directly? of that whole concept. Yeah, that's mine. Yeah, it's the rest of me. So it's like he's sitting there with the homies and he go to walk off and the headphones come on

and like the cops, like once he disappeared so the cops just run past him. I mean, so he's going to the store to grab his snacks and stuff. Dude's coming in there to rob him. He put his headphones on and he disappeared.

You know what I mean? But like from a sub-concant, he don't know that, but the music and but your headphones like as a black kid growing up like your headphones could be anything. It could be a basketball. It could be a pencil.

It could be a, and just keep your hair. And that it keep you away from what's going on. Just keep the head. And that's where that really came from, like, just keep, you know what I mean? If you boxing, stay in the gym. Like if you play basketball, play basketball, you know what I mean? And I genuinely feel like if you do what the fuck you're supposed to do, like a lot of

that stuff will veer around you. Of course. So some people will see it like that and understand like, oh shit, the headphones make them invisible. And then some people will look at it like, oh, he's just a lucky motherfucker and he minding his business. So either which ways you want to see it. Look at it, long as you get the point.

Fuck my head up. Because when I seen the truck pull up, while he's on the porch talking to the, you know, the homies and shit, I thought niggas was getting hit and it was police chasing the nigs. So it was like, what do you call it, double sign, John, whatever they call it? I thought niggas was going to shoot niggas. And then it was the police that ran out. Then you went to the next scene, felt like some ill streets is watching type shit.

I appreciate that. No, fuck with you, bro. You wanted them, bro. You wanted them. That means a lot coming from you. Battle rappers can rap. Don't get me wrong. But people love to keep them in that fucking box.

You know what I'm saying? You one of them niggas, like I said, cocky-car record's crazy. What? Leef War records are crazy. The record with Warre is crazy. Even the video of Wyclef, did he bring out one of them rare cars? Yeah, yeah. What was that, five million?

Yeah, seven. You know, he got Al-Cup. I think he bought Al Capone car years ago when, I was 50. Yeah, that Jasper. That Jasper and Nook, my. man. He had 7 mill in the city. So how do you get Wycliffe fucking legend of Grammy Award win all kinds of this guy?

How do you get him to come to your video shoot? Well, that was his, that was his work. So he reached out to meet up to put me on his record. Big bro, always he's super jersey. You know what I mean? He always holds it. He's from New Jersey, Shalder Clef. He always hold it down.

You feel me? I'm locked up. I'm in the pen at the time. I mean, I'm in the county still. I don't know what's going on. We're watching the VMAs. You know what I mean? Wycleft hosting.

You know what I mean? He's like right before Shakira, he's like, yeah. And coming up next, oh, free to wave, Jersey, Shakira, you feel me like that? And it just make a nigga feel good. Like, damn, I ain't forgot. You feel me? Something like that. So he's forever in my favor. Anything that nigga called me for. Like, I pray to God, he only called me for good stuff. Because if he didn't, I'm still there. You know what I mean? Like, for real, he, and he always showed me love. He always pick up the phone. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So I came home and he like, yo, I need this record. I got herb on it already. I need you, like, I'm about to remix to remix.

I need you on it. I said, all, let's work. So, you know, and then we shot the video in the hood. Yo, if you could choose your next three opponents. I know you already said, murder Mook, who would it be? The other two that you want to battle right now for that bag. Who would it be? That I want to?

Yeah, to get to get this shit turned up. Even though we know Mook said he ain't trying to step in front of you right now. He don't want to be the first one respectfully. Like, he might do it. He might want to say. He might want to see how you move him when you're on the come home. It's probably not a fun or spicy answer,

but it's like, from a want to standpoint, it's really only moot, like, in a sense. Like, anybody else, like, I would literally just be doing it because they got the number that I want. Like, it ain't no, you know what I mean? Like, it ain't nobody named that I could say, like, I ain't gonna lot. He really dog walking shit, I got it.

Like, years ago, like, I come home and it'll always be somebody just tweaking. I'm like, I need to see like, like, Gigi Gaddi at one point, like, oh. Right, right. I came home from, yeah. I ain't come home. I had just, after I got shot, I was down for a minute.

And like, Gichi popped out. I went Gichi, you know what I mean? After I came home from the 17 shit, it was, Nitty was hot at the time. Oh, give me Nitty. This time when I came home, it just, it wasn't nobody, you know what I mean, outside of the Mook thing. So it's like, any one of them could get it for the right price. Got you know what? Mook is the only one that's like, oh, this gotta happen.

Got you know what I mean? At some point it's going to happen, I'm sure. Got you. We need somebody to make that happen. Spraghack! Pay that money, man. Pay that money, smoo! that money smack.

Before them other people do. Once them other people do, I'm done. For sure. And I don't mean like other people like another league. Like my goal is to be comfortable. You know what I mean? Like I'm not, I'm not chasing nothing.

Like I ain't got no, I don't got a car. Like I don't drive. I got a driver for the last seven, eight years. The same dude. Like I don't, I don't got the dreams that niggas be having,

this shit like that. So it's like I don't need much. Once I hit that right number, I'm going in the chill mode. Fuck y'all mode. Like, why would I be battle rapping and I'm up five mil? Now, $2.50 don't make sense at all. You know what I'm saying?

So it's definitely I want to battle. And I would like to battle before that situation. Because if you look up in one of these people say, hey, listen, we're about to change your life. We like what you're doing. It's over. We need that. You know, listen, it'll be good for the game.

We need you to battle somebody. We've been waiting for you to come home. For Enrico. And that's great. You said, y'all other battle rappers ain't even competition. Y' niggins ain't even in the conversation. Oh, nice. Nice, oh, not.

Battlewrap has got some of the best rappers in the world from a technical standpoint. We talk about words and penmanship. We're talking about levels. That's what I'm just saying, levels. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but there's a lot of more work that got to be done. Gotcha. Away from the battle rap.

Look, sir, Rico, right? Right, real inside. Coal. So, what Rico? So, Rico. Who we can look forward to being on Rico, man? Shout out to, um, shout to producers first. You feel me?

Shout to, first and foremost. Shout to my dog, shout to Vior. You know what I mean? Shout to, like I said, hitmaker. Shout to Cog on Crazy You gotta go produce it first

But from a creative standpoint Um Herbo on As soon as I got home Herb got right with me As soon as I got home Shout to G Herbo Shout to Herbo

Right now He too I ain't gonna hold Generational right now Niggas can't Fuck on myself Not Herbo He's one of them

Hurt Nite And he always Natives don't know About his verse He got on Bloodhound Jeff Bloodh

Bloodhound little Jeff Rest in peace Yeah That our verse That's one of my That's one He got He got

I ain't going wild I had a record. It's called Nanna Crib. It's me, him and Mazi. Like, I know Herb go. Yeah, I listen to Nana Crip. It's me and Mazzi, though. So I'm like, so I had Mazzi on it first already and me.

So I'm like, I guess it ain't going to be like, I'm good. You feel me? Facts. Man, Herb jumped on that shit, dog. Walk, though. Yeah, I ain't going to. I always tell that. I'm like, your herb got the best version.

I ain't go like, Herb got crazy on it. Like, it's hard to keep up with surfing Mazzie, man. Herb got on that bitch talking. Crazy. Yeah, to me, Herb got the best version of that shit. He could rap. Herb, well, crazy. I'm Herb when that motherfucker, uh, Mazi, of course, I don't really go nowhere without, bro. Anybody that had a call to the jail and tell you, they need you on their album and you went 128 lower. Got to pay Hamas. That's a fact. That Mazzie. That Mazzu on that, man. Real crazy.

Didn't Fetty bring you out? What? Presidential you sent to? Fetty brought me out to Prudential something. How was that? How was that? I was crazy. Shout to Fetty while Big Big Zoo. Shout to Fetty, man. First one. He dropped kicked the door for Jersey. You found a shit. That's a fact. So it's always love with him. He showed me the utmost love. You feel me? Shout out to him.

Free him. He just came home. Right. How was summer gym for you? I was to be home like at the Prudential center. You and Albi-L came out, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Al-B came out too.

Shout out to Al again. That's my dog too. That shit felt crazy for real. Like, I ain't going to like, it's like Shikor Stevenson walking out fighting a Prudential. Right, right. Right, right. You're like, you know what?

Yeah, Jersey. I'm popping right now. I don't hold you. You know that. She called up from Jersey. It's from North. I didn't even know that. Jaylorne from Jersey.

Jersey popping right now, man. Cat? You want to talk about Jersey. Jersey popping right now. Little hand of her dog from Notre Dame. Like, we got some real like, like, scissor. Shelt the Tim Ferrattice.

I know T iced tea from Jersey. I mean, what are we going? Carrey Irvin. He from Jersey. I don't even know. There's a lot of people from Jersey. Shut out the Jersey. Let's go.

Jersey. That's right. Jersey. Fucking building, man. Man, Sue surf. Shit, extra lit. And the captain home is up. We outside.

September 10th, niggas going down. September 10th, Rico is coming out. This man is the king of battle rap. And now he's taking the king of fucking regular fucking rap. And he's fucking, and he went half a million of battle. And he's fucking been shot, went to jail. My jail is going to say, Prince over. But he's home now, man.

Make some noise for Sue Serf. Let's make that murder, moot battle happen. I quit. Let's make that battle. happen let's get that bag up man let's go like share and subscribe it's the real report we out jersey september 10 didn't catch the latest roland martin unfiltered podcast here's what you missed there should not be a single law enforcement agency does not have body cameras it's real black farmers have been under attack this is just the latest example of them just slapping

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