Joe and Jada - Tracy McGrady talks Knicks, ICONIC Rockets-Spurs comeback, toughest NBA matchup & ‘Cousins’ podcast with Vince Carter

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by NBA Hall of Famer Tracy McGrady. T-Mac breaks down his legendary 13 points in 35 seconds game against the San Antonio Spurs, why Ron Artest was the toughest defender he ever faced, his new podcast Cousins with Vince Carter, what went wrong for Markelle Fultz and Ben Simmons, and his new OBL one-on-one league launching May 15th in Orlando with team owners Lorenz Tate, Tim Hardaway Sr., and Jada (Kiss Kupchak!). Joe brags about his alter ego J.J. Sabathia years dominating softball games in the Bronx, rants about Knicks head coach Mike Brown's questionable sneaker choices, and why old rappers can't get radio play anymore. T-Mac also quizzes Joe and Jada on the highlights of their career, from Jada making songs with Biggie and DMX to Joe performing “Lean Back” at Summer Jam. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/ All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 5:00 13 points in 35 seconds game vs. Spurs 8:30 Fat Joe: Bronx softball legend 14:30 What went wrong for Markelle Fultz & Ben Simmons 21:00 T-Mac's toughest NBA matchup 31:00 Coach Mike Brown's questionable sneakers 38:00 T-Mac's OBL one-on-one basketball league 48:00 State of hip hop & why radio won't play the old school 1:01:00 'Cousins' podcast with Vince Carter 1:06:00 T-Mac quizzes Joe and Jada on rap career highlights 1:13:00 Hearing your song everywhere vs. everyone wearing your shoe 1:17:00 T-Mac requests "Feel Me" by JadakissSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, I'm talking about. I ain't listening to shit. He's running it. First of all, I'm going to be honest with you. Them shoes so fucking big. I feel like I got a gun in my face. That shit looked like a eight off of a thing. Calibur's shoe is that.

That shit looked like you put the foot up If somebody ass, they're in trouble. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is your boy Joe Cracked at Dawn. You know who it is, your boy Jada. Mr. Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic. My man got that lavender shit on today.

No, but saying slow, you're looking like Teddy Bucks being right now. You got that shit on. Yeah, I mean. You saw him a little rib, a little Gucci shit. Yo, you get money, man. God damn, this guy right? like a hoxtable right now. You think of today's guests?

You think of one of the most gifted scorers the NBA's ever seen. Right, right, true, true. Seven-time All-Star. Right, right. Two-time scoring champion. Off the backboard. You never seen him in college

because he didn't attend college. Sure. Great father. Hall of Famer. Some brown good person. You know what I mean? If you know him, you know them. If you don't, you want to know it.

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother Tracy T. MacGraig. Yes, sir. A one-time Nick. Yes, sir. He was even on a Nick for a minute. He was even on a Knicks. You. Poor hot shake.

Oh, you don't want to. that one. He don't want that. He said, yo. No, if I was T-Mac at the time with the Knicks, yeah, we could definitely could celebrate that. But I had, you know, transformed into Tracy. Yeah.

We're going to stop talking about. Why we always get the players that transform into the, they're no longer than, we got a fucking, we've been doing that. Motherfuckers, that he just said he wasn't Team Mac at the time. He was Tracy. government that's what we be getting all the time the government name plate we you know he was once the most exploitive from the phoenix son then he come over he's

jonathan william penny hardy he wasn't penny it was a penny we got anthony why we don't get paid that sounds like an organizational probably yeah that sounds like something and that's sound like personnel yeah I got to ask you before we even get into the interview. He was on, this is your rocket, yes. The amount of points you scored in a couple of seconds, what was going through your mind? How many points was it and how fast was it?

So it was like 13 points in like 35 seconds. Shit. Against San Antonio. How did that happen? So it's one of those things, man, in the league. get in that zone. Like nobody can fuck with you when you get in that zone.

I was struggling, you know, for three quarters in that game. Shoot. And, you know, we was down in the fourth quarter. It's, something just came over me, bro. You know what I mean? Like, I hit a three-pointer,

and we filed. We get the ball back. And then I'm coming off. I pump fake. Tim Duncan got him off his feet. He's another three-pointer, and he won. So once I got the end,

on the second three, I was like, oh, one style. The basket is huge now. Okay, this is a question I always ask. I'm not a Supreme basketball player. I love basketball, but I ever wondered if in real life, I'm talking about real life, right? Does the basket ever get like so big that? We just said.

Yeah. So when you see a guy, I forget who somebody shot a three over the joke of the other day, He was all the way in it. There's no way they just do it and they just knew it. You know what this shit went in. 30, 50. Does it get bigger? It's muscle memories.

You know where the basket at no matter who's in front of you and how long there reaches. Like, I know what the basket is. So you can put your hand in my face and try to blind me. Now, once I've never even thought about that. Once I got that feeling, it's over. Like, there's nothing you can do. Because we got a sniper here. The other day, the basket was big.

The one on the, Instagram where you chopped that video up. You and the league. That was that election. By eight nine of them sits in the road. Like was the basket

looking big? Nah, that's what it is. You know, when you do this professionally. Sorry, I asked. So when you're shooting,

right? Right. Because when you're shooting and you make a few, you feel like you get in that song. You get in a song. I ain't going to lie.

I always, God's giving me a lot of blessing. When he never gave me that one miracle basketball game. Like, I've been in celebrity basketball games or pickup basketball game, and I pray, your God, let the shit just go in. Let me have one of them legendary Jeremy Lynn games.

You still bring in a basket yet. I ain't got it. I get it. So sometimes when I see the shit going in, I wonder if the guy sees the basket bigger than it actually is, because some games, some guys can't miss. That's how it is. Motherfuckers come down shoot three.

Nine threes in a row. He's seeing that shit like in the NBA. Come down. So that's it. It's just, you know, with anything, man, when you're in that fucking booth. You know what I mean? When you're in the booth and you just got that feeling over you

and you start spitting out some shit, you just get in that zone. You lock in. And you know it's not. You know you nice. You know you just killed it in the booth. Yeah, but you, Matt, we got to be careful with that right there. I love your analogy, but there's a lot of whack niggas out there.

Yeah, but they think they're in the zone. Yeah, they're still in the zone. They're just in the zone of whack shit. Yeah, this is trapped. And yo, we're going to keep doing this shit. You know, I always prayed to God. You know, I've been to some celebrity basketball games. I've seen, your God, man, let me see the basket big.

It never happened for me. Did you play baseball? I played softball. I was a fucking legend. in the street to the Bronx. Softball? Softball. J.J. Sabathy.

No, no. I was J.J. Sabathy in the Bronx. Strike your motherfuckers out. Fast shit. Oh, you played fast pitch softball. I would have struck you out. Team Mac, I'm not lying. I would have sent that shit 400.

I'm a baseball player. You would have not in it. I'm a baseball. That shit would have went 400. J.J. Sabati is a good get. Slating that under-harm shit. I'm sending that shit up. I used to be in the club

that six in the morning and pitch at 7 30 in the middle with the sun 90 degrees. I never got tired when I was young. Underhand, and those guys are fucking, but speeding, I strike you out, bro. I'm telling you, don't disrespect J.J. Sabathia. Joe, Jay, J.J. Sabathia.

How many times? I just want to know, crap. All I want to know, how many times you winding up, though, before you release the ball. I got the riser. Or is it one time? The riser is. Yeah, God forbid I get two strikes on you.

Say, inside this, that. Can you place it? You're not listening. I got some shes. shit to go like this. Right. Last minute. Last minute this shit goes.

That shit sounded like a fart. So you thinking you hitting this shit here, end up here, and you struck out. All these guys got struck out. All of them. I'm not talking about a celebrity thing. You know how many guys are walking around Spanish, all them, and fucking the Bronx. That I fucking, like, disrespect them in front of their families. Firemen, all type of.

Husters did. They came in a game where they fed. We didn't put it. Not right now. Washed up. We need footage. We need footage.

Washed up. Right now I'm Joe's a carter jeez. It's crazy though. I've never heard. He pump was my biggest fan. There was a punk come sit on the side, gun in the glove. Don't argue a pun about

fat. Joe, he was my biggest fan. This is a male softball league? Cole, you being disrespectful. Yo, a male soul of a male softball. Oh, is it?

These are grown men that smack shit out the park. You said he's pitching her name. Yeah, but I'm pitching fast. Softball. Softball, but fast. Male softball league. Male softball league. Great.

Grown-ass man, softball league. What you were throwing? I don't know what I was throwing. I know I was striking everybody out. And I made every all-star game. You wish. I was at the little celebrity joint, little CC joint.

He was out there pitching trying to throw your little curve and, you know, trying to throw a little ball shit. Damn, that's why he's disrespectful. He didn't see me in my prime. He didn't see me when I was Jay Matt. You saw Joseph Antonio Card and Gina. You didn't see. That's why he's talking shit.

They put his shit. That's why he's talking shit. Tell him, Blair. First of all. Real stories coming out, Joe. First of all. Real stories coming out, Joe. The real stories.

Rich, tell him, Rich. What's the story? Hold on. What's the store that you used to work at when you was a kid, the Mayo? Let me tell you something. We played with the official softball. In Yankee Stadium,

to make it excited, they were playing with quarked softballs that if you hit a foul ball, that shit go up a deck. They was playing with the green softballs. They wasn't playing with the white leather softball. They officially, your man, it actually really didn't smack my shit.

It was a ball that was like a golf ball. I'm trying to tell you. Loaded. They loaded. They loaded softballs. I got a question, though. Why, niggas? I'm telling you,

you better go to a softball store. They got a question. They got green softball. You got a question for you. Your little brother could smack that shit out the park. Joe, I'm not lying to you. I just got a question, bro. I was washed up, too.

I was washed up. I just got a question, Joe. Huh? He got a question. Hey, Joe. I just got one question. He smacked this shit. These niggins.

Hey. Y'all didn't have Little League baseball? Huh? Y'all didn't have little league baseball? Like, yo, or baseball? No, we did. Why don't play baseball? Well, but I don't know if it's just Bronx Cofa, culture, but them Puerto Rican's in the Bronx, they played softball and they got, my man, we thought.

So, y'all grew up playing softball. Man, we got guys that parked that shit on top of the roof, nigger, like they don't play. No, no, no. I've seen some, my team. Some dogs on that softball. Yeah, that's what we had, like that. I seen it. My team.

That late, they can place the ball with the elite. I had guys who violated. They could be rough riders, D-block, the best guy in the world. He'd be like,

yo, I'm sorry, Jada, I'm playing with Joe. Could you hit? The niggas, I hit every time. I can control the hitting,

too. So if I'm batting up and I want to hit it right on right field, right on the fucking line, right field, and I'm right? Yeah.

Right on the side. Every single time. I fucked up one time. One time. One time we're in the chip. Game seven, we got runners on base. Uncle Dan was supposed to bat up. Uncle Dan historically does not hit better than me.

I'm on the bench. I pull him out. I bat up. Straight. Never strike out, but popped out. And Uncle Dan, 40 years later, he wanted to kill me. He said, y'all, I was lucky that day. I was going to hit this.

I'm like, yo, you know, I fucked that game up. Like I thought, you know, I usually get hits. That shit fucked me up. It fucked me up.

I'm traumatized by that. That's tough. Yeah. Huh? Big Nick Anderson. Oh, that was crazy. Nick Anderson. That was crazy, man.

That was crazy, man. Big, that basketball psychology. Anderson. Huh? It's just crazy that your mind. can go that way, bro. To where you feel like

you can't make a shot. Are you scared to take a shot? Like, that's a psychological thing that it was just, he had that block. Yo, yo, we just want to let y'all know 1800 is the fish you tequila of Joe and Jada. We're doing it big right now. We're keeping it 1800, the premier tequila.

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You know what I mean? 1800. 1800. That's what happened to McHale folks. That's a real thing. That's a sad story. What's the night of that?

Like, like, you got to know, it's something. CTEs? That's not. C.T. ain't dope. You're not C.T. Not on this one. No, what's up? McHale, folks. Not on this one.

Bob Simmons? What's the nigga from the next? Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons. Bob Simmons. Oh. You know, it's going to be Bob. It was his back. Bob Simmons.

Nah, real talk. But they never said it's this back. Now, listen. I know a lot of people's shit on Ben Simmons. Dool could have been. could have been out. No, no, no. Drewski got a sound of bar. It was his back.

It was his back. And then, you know, his... But nobody ever explained us to us. It was the back. They said it was like mental. And then it... Yeah, so that led to his mental. It led to his mental.

He used to do... But before his injury, though, before... Oh, he was good, bro. He could do everything. Everything. He was cooking. That kid was really good. Oh, boy, folks was good, too,

till he got mentally... Oh, nah, man. It's crazy. man, he just lost his mind. He was sad. You know, I was watching him. What happened? Kiss, you want me to talk? For real, we're talking, right?

I was sad for him. For Markell folks, because he was nice, and then you could tell mentally something happened to him, and I'm watching him at the game, and he's just struggling, and he just couldn't get out of that.

Then they moved him or lander. Fuck pressure. Number one pick. He was the number one pick. That's pressure. You got to live up to that. Number one pick, crack. So sorry, my brothers.

You got to live up to it. You got to do what you got to do. Right. But it's not, he can't be scared of pressure. He played, he played the game, meaning college. He didn't know he was getting drafted, number one. They picked him number one. 50 cents on your ass in the fucking hip-hop.

Dissing you every day on World Star and this. Your mother's a lesbian in a disc, this, this, this. That's fucking pressure. Your kids going to school, they're threatening your kids. How's that pressure? You do the same shit. That's not throwing the basketball pressure.

Listen. What? Huh? No. Telling you, bro. He should have showed up. Your man's a bus too. What's his name, Rich?

Your guy. The Russell guy. He never did. The wife's number one, too? Who? The football player? Teangelo Russell. He wasn't a bus?

Number two? he's out of bus. He ain't nothing compared to what he thought he was. Let me tell you something. Do me because he's a Laker. Y'all got him two times. Nah, he ain't know. Y'all spun the block with that nigga.

He still stunk up the place. Let me tell you something. You know why I knew? When he got drafted, he was so cocky. If we could go back to the clip, James, we cut this up. You go draft night.

That boy nephew, be careful. Be careful. We got to stay humble. That man walked up and then that draft. He was like, shit don't stick records. Like, he was on that shit like this with the suit.

I said, Y'all-he went up with her and he stunk up the place. Joe, he lasted. He never became who he was supposed to become. He had a good career. He had a solid career. No, he didn't. He played over 10 years.

Yeah, but whack years. Ten whack years. You don't go number two. And the thing, let me tell you something, bro. Nah, you can't base it off that. You can't base it off that. They ain't drafting themselves. Yeah, yeah, he ain't good.

Nah, they're not drafting themselves. So if somebody looks at him. Yeah, yeah, he was good. He wasn't all that. You can't put that on here. Listen, how about the Knicks? The Knicks drafted. That nigger was so trashed.

The guy from France. McHell, Frank McHill. I wanted to kill this, Nick. Like, I was like, if I ever see this nigga and say last to something. We're breaking this thing's kneecaps. We're getting them out of Stalin. He didn't have say less than even.

He didn't even have to say less. I see this nigga Suz Ronde food. He's going to, mysteriously. Darra, protect all customers from Joe. That thing would have been his sous Rondea food one night. I'd have been like, get him. Got to go.

Who was your toughest? Frankie McCowell? That was the biggest bullshit. Was your man picked him, too? Your man picked him. Jordan's coach. Phil Jackson picked that nigga.

What you know we do? Frank McHale? Oh shit. I'm still having. I'm still having. You know what? That day ain't on? Yep.

You're bugging. You're having the whole conversation. I'm overdosed. You were in that style. What's his name? Frank Mattel. I was like that, look. I'm twitching because of that

nigga. Frank McHale. Any other team that called him after us? I'm like, y'all got him? Except his name. Oh, my. Who's the toughest defense? Who's the wackest guy?

The toughest, man. Run our test was tough. You know, 6-8, run-run. Run. Run. Bridge. Six-eight. Strong as an ox.

Long wings. His brother, Danny, was like that in the street basketball. Yeah, yeah, run-run. They just. Run-run was one of the moves. Being boned, they're going to hurt you every time. It's not, it's, and when I say tough, like,

No, he's tough. It's like, I know I got to battle. Like, I got to strategize on how I hope tonight. Other nigs, you know, it's just like, I'm going through my joint. He's going to shake him. I know I'm going to get my shower off easily. Run, it's like it's a strategy. I can't, I play against him differently than I'll play somebody else.

You know what I mean? Because with him, you can't sit there and play with the ball. Because he's so strong. You're not really going, you know, shake him out of his shoes. it's either a fast move, quick move, get your shot off. Me, I like to mix it up with him. I like to run him like Steph. So what I was one of the do is I just didn't have the ball in my hands.

Like I could run off the screens like Steph. So I'll run him because I know he's going to make a mistake before I do. Like they always going to make mistakes. He's going to try to do a shortcut and I'm going to capitalize off that every single time. So once I get a rhythm off running him off screens and now I can get the ball and then I got my rhythm to do wherever I want. So now it's like I'm mixing it up and he can't really just hung in

on one thing that I'm doing. Keep them off, man. You know, let me tell you something, man. You're talking about Steph Curry. The original Steph Curry was Reggie Miller. I believe they invented them picks for Reggie Miller. He would turn around three play of them big guys. Davis, Davis, Boyce.

Rick Smith. What? Rick Smith. Bang, ding, bang, bang, Before you know, he was dead alone. Squish, Reggie Miller was a motherfucker. And I got some real, real legendary players who say he wasn't. Who?

Who? I need names. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. But what I can tell you is legendary players of all time was like, y'all made him famous. When he did the shit to y'all in New York, that's what made him in the Hall of Fame. Other than that. Wow.

You see what he... I just told you. He's incredible. No, I'm saying. He went head-to-head with Mike. Like, he had some battles with Mike. Did he not? Did he not?

Listen. I'm not saying he's, you know, outside Mike. Did he hold his own against Mike? What I'm going to say is Reggie Miller left the league three years before he should have. He was still dropping 20 points tonight. He was still in great. He was still in great shape. I believe he's a Hall of Famer.

I don't know. He's the Hall of Fame. He's a Hall of Fame. Yeah, but I believe Fat Joe, his opinion on sports, I think Reggie Miller is one of the greatest of all time. He is. I don't know who's saying differently. He said the Nick shit is the only reason why the man caught the Hall of Fame

because of that 13th Spike still. I still, I can't look at Spike. That's nonsense. Y'all, every game I look at Spike in the shit and I see this. You see what he did in Indiana. You see your man did that shit to us? Come on, man, man. You see what your man was doing to us.

Halliburton. He beat us and he was doing the choke shit too for our Indiana. That bad, fuck. Yeah, come on. Indiana went crazy on your shit. We needed like a fucking Ron Altess in the game that day to smack him or some shit and get thrown out or something. I mean, the guy was doing this.

But you know what I love about it, though, last year? Violation. Your Knicks, they brought, they brought you all back. So, like, the fandom and the celebrity and every, the energy. Too much done. It was crazy. It was crazy. Like, that, we need that back in the garden.

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I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auer Kohn and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you think Tim's are supposed to get... No, Tibbs should still be coaching. I like Mike Brown. Like him. But Tibbs, Tibbs is built.

for New York Knicks. Culture. Like, leading that team. Everything about him, brother. Like, strong, personality, holding guys accountable. Like, the toughness. Damn, you should be like this. The toughness.

Jaylin! Hey, Mike Brown and coach, I got respect for you. I got love for you. I know somebody's going to tell you about this. Snakes? His snigas is foul. He got, like, converts on.

or some shit, the thin shit like that. The other day, no, the other day I met the game. You're checking Coach Sneakers up? Coach Sneakers' pie, team pop. Coach Sneakers' pie, team pop. If a nigga come up in there with the espadrills, God forbid he's with the loafers,

he come up in there with them shits like, yo, stop, right? Trust me, okay? The sneakers got something to do with the whole shit. There'll be some good coaches shoes, bro, them the loafers. But listen to what the man. Fuck, no.

Fuck, no. Y'all want to get me thrown out of Madison Square gone lifetime guarantee. Mike Graham, come with the loafers on. They got their wish. Throw this motherfucker out of the stadium.

They're going to have that on TV like a handcuff. Like, yo, get this nigga out in the building. Joe. Yo, listen. The new balance. Got to make the. loafers. The new coaching shoe.

It's a coaching shoe. It looks good. You just look at them joints, man. Put the penny in there. You already got some horrible sneakers, but let me tell you the story. I wouldn't let my landscape. I wouldn't let my pool cleaner wear it off. Hey, dog.

Can we please show them on camera? Take one off. Take one off. Don't you, go it. You, this thing got that Andre Eagle dog. Put that nickel. put the quarter right there, dog. The official

coach's shoe up the NBA right here. Don't say quarter. Right here. That shit put a quarter in your ass because you played yourself. This shit here, my love it. Hey, yo. Those shit is in the fucking inferno

those right there. Well, anyway, coach got some shit a little less. A little less. Mike Brown got some sneakers on every game that's a little less than those. Okay, we got it. And the other day, I'm going to tell you a story.

We played a Wack team. Chicago trash. I'd never seen the trash your team. But the man came with some air max on. I stopped in the middle of, oh, he's going. I see, Coach! Yes, he heard me. He looked at me and he said, yo.

I see, keep the sneakers on. Coach, we won by 40 that game. You gave him so good at place. They ain't got them fucking espadryl. Send him some shit, bro. What you wanted to watch? Send him some. You know what?

He lives near me. I'm gonna find out where he's... I'm gonna send him some sneakers. I got to because I can't see him with them fucking, them thing. It looks like he on a yacht. You're in New York City. Skippies, man.

He looks like he's on a yacht. I ain't gonna lie them sisters new every time, though. He got a hundred pair of skippies. Whatever them shit, he got on them, just don't got a scuff. He got a new pair every day. We got to get you on the sideline OBL, man. You'll bring us great energy.

You got to get him, Chis. I'm going to have him. Yeah. What OBL? Got the OBL. Yeah, got the one-on-one league. You know, I can't lose. You know, I coached over there.

Your son was there. How much I beat him boss? I'm 99 and 1. I don't think you understand that. And the Ruck, I'm 99 and 1. The other game, the other day, at the Nike Jordan shit, was you not there, nephew?

You don't think I didn't coach? Damn. Hey, nephew. Good job. He was the show you. It was Joe Couch. Okay. Let me tell you something.

I'm the best coach in the world. I took a team in jail that was the bad news bears. The niggas was jail. They was bouncing the ball like this. And I kept seeing them every Saturday out there. The niggas was getting blown out, pause. And I went out there one Saturday. I said, you stand here.

You stand here. And you hear, when he goes, you give it to him. Bounce the ball to the thing. They wind up going like 8 and 0. The only reason I ain't win a chip, they threw me out to jail. The next week was the chip. I took the bad news best to a chip in jail. I cannot lose.

They stopped me from coaching the NBA celebrity All-Star because I kept winning by 40 or 50. I can't lose their coach. And by the way, I did coach that game. what happened that game? It was halftime. First of all, the kid was threatening me. Whatever the young boy.

What's his name? Good guy. Met his whole family. Ryan, what? Why ain't got a white boy name like that? He Puerto Rican. But listen, it's almost like

Feroisi. Listen, the man go, yo, the man go talk wild shit. Right? The young boy, yo, wow, yo, you done, you washed up,

this, I'm like, okay. I get Kareem Reid, Terrell Squad, two official. He's coaching and he put the team together. This is what happened. We went at halftime, and this is how I coached. I said, what's the score? It was like, yo, we up 12.

Go up 30, triple to pay. Sat back down. Dumb niggas win up 40 points. They paid the most professional basketball. You ever seen it, and you're like, Give it the shot, clear it out. Give it they start moving that shit around like, bro, it's coaching.

You got to know how to what to say at the right time. Players got to be coachable. They were playing around, throwing it this. Once I told them, go up 30, triple the pay. That motherfuckers made the most, they played the most professional, systemic basketball. You've seen in your life, here you go, clear it out. Back up.

Rebound. Like the, huh? We got Kiss Cup check right here. The owner, he might have to bring you in as a coach for his OBL team. I don't lose. One-on-one, though. So my one-on-one league, crack. My one-on-one league, I created teams with it.

It's one-on-one. Yeah, yeah. So he's the owner of the New York team. Just Cup check. Kiss Cup check. You see, who do you use one-on-one? Some qualified. We had a try-out.

We had a whole try-out. in the in the um thing in new york man i would get a guy like may 15th orlando one-on-one may 15 in Orlando yeah yeah so i can you invite me you got a plane ticket for me nice hotel what's the hotel we like in Orlando i got you look what's the nice hotel Joe rich Carlton so look we got we got we got eight we got eight teams track view the river that they're here one listen to them every time i travel we get the best hotels in there I got you yo Walden Don't know for sure you, this, this, that. Let's go kiss me in the lobby.

You know, what I'm saying? It's crazy, though. Tell them about the league. So, yeah, man, I started this one-on-one league, and for me it's, you know, because I got some ownership in the Buffalo Bills. And, you know, when you look around. Hold on. Hold on.

Say that's slow for the niggas in the back. James Cook, right? James Cook's our guys. Sure, for sure. Which used the coach. He the man. So I got some ownership in that. And then when you look around, you know, our major sports and look at ownership,

it's not a lot of people that look like us, right? So, you know, with alternative sports growing, and it's the thing nowadays, and one-on-one is becoming, you know, real prominent, not just here, but even abroad. Like, they're playing one-on-one in China. It's crazy over there. And I was like, yo, I want to start. this league, but I want to do it differently and give ownership to folks that look like me. So I, you know, came up with the eight cities and came up with eight guys that are influential

in these eight cities. So that's why I reached out the kiss, gave him that New York team, gave Lorenz Tate. My brother Lorenz Tate got the Chicago team. Tim Hardaway, Sr. got the New York, the Miami team. And I got my boy John Wall. John Walls involved. Yeah, man. So I got a great good guy.

Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. And Orlando, Vince got Orlando. Fucking love Orlando. And we just going to build. And, you know, I got some good people behind me that's putting some money into this shit. There's a Puerto Rican gas station.

They cook so good. We got to get you a Puerto Rico team. You got some guys in Puerto Rico that, who we want to go to Puerto Rico. You got some guys there? I know the guy who run the Bad Bunny team. There you go. We'll get them involved in OBL. I'm sure they got one guy over there to go crazy.

All right. Let's get him a team. It ain't Ryan Witherspoon. That motherfucker got beat. His ass lost Bob 40. Fucking with me. And the reason I ain't really coached because it was light work. I'm sitting there like, really?

I'm sorry to get everybody upset. You know, because everybody was with him. That's the youth. The youth was with him. Like, yo, those youngs, them niggas were sad by a half-time. Everybody went home with a pasta, Leo, and the hell. It was like, yo, take your patel in with you

and get that shit up out of here. Dude, it was a, Jordan through a Puerto Rican celebration, Puerto Rican vibes. And it was great. It was great. But, you know, I can't lose. I don't lose. So how does one-on-one work?

Just one-on-one? And what, it's game 15, game 30? No, it's game to nine. Game is nine. So you got four players on your team. And it's based off of how your players do against the other cities, right? How many wins they get and how many. So you got players or one place?

No, it's four players on the team, but one on one. Yes. Oh, that's, wow. That's fire. Yes. So, you know, four of your guys is not going to play the same team. So one of your guys can play a team from Chicago. one of your team,

your guys play a team for Miami like that. It's going to be crazy, man. We're doing it May 15th in Orlando. Real crazy. Every L, baby. Everybody going to be on.

We flying all the boys in, man. You know what I'm going to do is I'm going to get the Puerto Rico team. I'm telling you. I'm telling you sort of a Puerto Rico team. You know what I'm saying? So I talked about those. I was going to get lost to the Miami team.

I talked a loss. That's good. Yeah. You got a Miami. Me team? Yeah, Tim all the way seen. Oh, you listen? You know I'm right.

Crack just up here, just bumping it, boy. No, I'm talking about it. I ain't listening to shit. He's running it. First of all, I'm going to be honest with you. Them shoes so fucking big. I feel like I got a gun in my face. That shit looked like a eight-offing thing.

Calibur's shoe is that. That shit looked like you put the foot up in somebody ass. They're in trouble. Big top. And then came up to me the other day. seen the guy had the spikes on the pants.

Yeah, at this show. You know, everybody got their own swag. No, he gets, he gets chased by the dog. No, no, no, everybody, you can't be mad. If we went right now to Manhattan, there's some white girls walking by.

Swag. You know where I do it? I go to Miami. I go to Bell Harbor. It's some mall that's really, really rich, and our people watch. And everybody got their swag. They could be from Texas.

They can be from Memphis. They can be from six. They throw their shit on That is in their hood Or whatever they're good Now You gotta understand The guy came to the show

And I know he swagged out In his own way I'm not even trying to disrespect He had some leather pants on With the spikes All over the Who was you okay? Was it?

Man I said my man If you kicked me With them fucking pants right there Niggas start laughing Because yo It's like Man He got

He had the spikes on his shit. That's how I feel when I look at them shoes. They're the type of shit. Your moms are hit you anywhere in the house with them shit. You'll get your long distance with them shoes like there. You know? What is he? Don't.

This guy's crazy. That nigga got the fucking piece for the youth size 16, huh? 16. Hight 6.9. You're the original 6.9. How do you feel to be the original 6'9 when this guy's out here? Oh. Rat King of the universe.

How's your rat king, though? Don't you got to be from that? We talked about this. We talk about this. If you were not cut from that cloth, if you ain't come from that, you ain't grew up in that. How you were a rat?

The man was sending people to do things. He was there telling him, shoot the place. Right. Go get this. Right. Young boy. That young boy, you think that young boy?

So let me ask you something because I have you. He said twice behind the scene. So for you, you think is acceptable for people to snitch or rat? A normal person, if it's your sister, your mother, a hardworking guy, somebody robs them. I don't have a problem with them saying, officers I'm saying, you're a normal civilian. Supposedly gangster who built their whole empire, their whole image off of data realists ever. And they over here talking about this guy robbed me, this guy, you think, that's like acceptable.

Right. I answered every question. I'm asking you a question. If he didn't come from that. If he didn't come from that, he didn't grow up in that. And he got what a group of dudes that put a battery in there, so we're going to push you this way

to start him. That doesn't make him that. You got a machine behind you that's pushing you. You was never that. He was never that. I appreciate your opinion. He was never that.

You got to hear him out. Everybody got a perspective. Everybody got their own shit. Me? I come from a time where the wrong guy walked past your building and you hear that shit. Like the cowboy movies.

Your mom's closed the window. They don't see nothing. I don't see nothing. You ever see that comedian? He was on the, What's the shit Russell Simmons had, Deb Jem comedy?

You ever seen Homeboy? He said, I fuck with Poppy from the fourth floor because he don't see nothing. He don't know nothing. He don't know nothing. He doesn't know nothing. That's where I'm from.

He doesn't know nothing. He don't know nothing. My father was not a gangster or criminal in no way. I promise you my life. My father or my mother. wouldn't be testifying on no niggins. They'd be like, yo, we don't see nothing. We don't know nothing.

We keep that shit moving. That's how I was toward brought up family. You, everybody's not brought up like that. Yeah, obviously. I need up in there talking about, yo, just came out of PC. It's legendary in there. Is that really a thing nowadays, though?

You see what's going on around this month. Everybody telling, bro. Yeah, everybody's telling. Like, that's not new. And so what we've got to do is stay legit. guys, because this shit now, and the camera work is horrible out here.

His cameras everywhere. Like, I honestly, honestly, believe you can't get away with a crime. In 2026, you just can't get away with a crime. Yo, man, let me tell you something, man. A little while ago,

what's his name, played some shit. And I was just like, thank God to rap it. Like rap music is just Who's hot now? Who's putting out of good music? I think Well, you can't let me because I'm old

So I'm going to say the OGs I'm going to say I'm going to say French Montana and Max B with that joint I'm going to pick dumb That's what I want to speak on So why is it Why is it the old niggas

Bro? Why do old niggas Stop rapping? Like what is it with the old? I don't get whacked. Right? Historically, yeah. You wasn't T-MACC, you was Sir Tracy McGrady, knighting soul when you played for the Knicks.

So historically, historically over the years, especially before our era, a lot of... I'm after you, you owe to this thing. So let me... Trap, you can't make a high song right now? Yeah, sure. I'm in a fight. Right now.

Right now. A unicorn. Have you put out music? When the last, when you put out an album like last year. And then I got some missiles. Don't play with me,

T. Mack, I'll play some shit for you. You'll be like, yo, that's shit crazy. Play some shit for me. But what I'm saying to you is historically in time,

the most legendary of legends, the best of the best, they always got whack when they got older. Don't ask me why. They were off beat. They sound like to the hip, to the hop. They just,

Yeah, they just, I don't know. 40 years later, though, we, like, nah, times have changed. Like, y'all niggas are still hot. See, I just put out some hot shit. Niggas, your old niggas can put out hot shit, bro. That's what I want to hear y'all. I want to hear you. I agree.

I can't relate to the new shit. Nah. It's not sustainable. Sad because I'm about the youth. I'm about everybody winning. I'm about, I feel like if a guy is successful, He ain't got to rob your mom's at the gas. I love it.

For sure. Even though they do it, they rob and they get successful now. This shit out of control out here. But it's crazy because, no, shit out of control. The whole world upside down shit crazy out here. But, T-Map, what I'm saying to you is, historically, the legends that used to flow like they was the greatest in the world, they try to make music when they was older, and they got whacked.

don't know how. Now with this era, you got Nass putting out good music. You got Jaden and I'm putting out music. You got French. You got T.I. You got a couple of guys that's putting out great music still consistent, great music. But that wasn't like that. Errors before our error.

You know, I don't think they figured it out with the age bracket. Hip hop is only 51 years old. So they don't know what's old. They don't know what... And all that shit is still in the uproar from how they categorizing it. If you're too old, right? If you're too old and this and that.

I know the T.I. Just put one out the park five weeks, number one. For sure. I know that French Montana and them got a number one. I think if you make right now quality music and it's a smash hit, it could go.

Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like that. two, three years ago. I had a guy I'm cool with a friend because I'm one of the guys

that consistently still kept putting music out no matter how old I got videos, $250,000 a million. I'm independent. I pay for my own shit. So work my radio,

work everything, and I had a radio guy that's a boss of bosses who's my man for 30 years sit me down and say, we are not playing old nigger music no matter what.

I don't care if you're radio. I don't care. if Jay Z comes out with something. I don't care if Nas comes out with something. I don't care Mary Jay Blige come out with something. We are not playing it. Even if it

sound like a hit, Joe. Save your money. Don't because, you know, to get radio, you got to hire a team. That shit a couple of hundred thousand. What? My man, why. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. What? What? You think of shit free.

To get a song on a radio. You got to have a team. What you mean? To work out, you got to chiropractor, you got the shooter, you got the disc, you got that. This is, to make music fly, you got to pay somebody who works the record.

There's a million fucking records come out every week. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. So if I, if I want to put out some music, I want my shit down. You are definitely not getting a play team, man. Maybe on, maybe stack, maybe my nigga Stackjack, a plate

this shit and Matt Barnes and him. I'm not talking about me. You might get a spin on it. Let them do. So if I want to put out some music, they want their shit on Hot 97. You got a higher team. You got a higher.

Of course. What is the team? You can get it on Hot 97. What's the bill? Don't you know it's a couple of hundred dollars? The whole world got hot 97? So that's just one station. Yeah.

Right. So that's what I'm getting at. This one station, what am I putting in to get my shit played on this one station? It ain't just one station. No, then they got syndicate. They got stations that's connected to 50 stations. I mean, it's a whole So you're paying to get your shit distributed

to all of that. The point is, you need to get it everywhere. The point is. You need is spinning on all of them stations that get to become a number one. What's my ticket? Let me explain how a couple of couple of hundred thousand. Let me explain something.

Your team Mac, listen to what I'm saying. There's one million hip-hop records that come out every week. One million. Every day now? One million, right? The radio got 12 to 16 songs that they play on rotation that you hear it all day. You got to hire a team to get your record, you know, to keep talking to the radio, yo, could you play Jada Kiss this week?

Could you play Fat Joe? Give us a little something. See if it blow. You got a higher team to do that. But in any case, my man is the boss of all. bosses are all radio. Look me in the faces and listen. Forget.

No old nigger music. I said, what do you mean? If Mary J. Bloss come out with a hit, we're not playing it. If J. Z comes out with a hit, we're not playing it. If Noss come, they just letting me know that Fat Jones expendable. He doesn't even want to tell me me.

He's like, yo, their shit come out. We're not playing it. So be clear, Joe, you're wasting your money. Why? Because they got an age limit. Whoever the radio stations is, they keep trying to look at a younger audience. They did all that,

and I bite them in the ass because young people don't. Young kids stream. So that's what I was just trying to explain. It takes the old nigga to get in the car right now in New York. You go now and you play the radio, you old. That's like smoking the cigarette in front of the building. Yo,

Taryn'all right? You just smoking the cigarette. Yo, niggas just smoking analytic now. This shit is like, niggas got the the vape. Niggas, you smoking a cigarette now?

You old school. They're smoking with fluidity now. They're in it and they keep it moving. You listen to the radio. You're a dinosaur. My daughter ain't listening. His son ain't listening to this fucking radio, but they want them.

So they like, oh, we got to play all the young shit, this, that. Now, if it's a young cat, they got fluidity who got some hot shit out. I mean, I want to hear it on the radio, too. I'm not gatekeeping.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tell us about the Cousins' Podcasts with you and Vince. I want to hear from y'all. Yeah, so we, man, you know, cousin and I, we talk on the phone often. You know what I mean?

Are you the first cousin? It had to be other cousins in the NBA, but I don't know. Y'all might be the nice cousins. Yeah, no, I don't think there's no other cousins. No, nobody's equivalent to you and Vince that was ever cousins in it. Not that I could think of, but we have, we have some cousins that are pretty good. Shea and his cousin. Oh, shit, yeah, the Alexander

Yeah, they got... Not in our offense card And you get Tracy McCrady, I'm sorry. But no, so we talk on the phone, man, often hour, two hours About family, about life, about the game. And the opportunity came up, you know, for the podcast. I mean, we, you know, we watch all the podcasts and are out here.

You know, we're the biggest in the baguette, sir. And, you know, when the opportunity came, I didn't want to do it. But then we start talking about numbers. That really, that caught my attention. How do you, how do you analyze numbers? Like, what, what, how do you see your podcast turning into money? Yeah.

Monetize. Well, I mean, that's obviously sponsorships. The more sponsors you get, the more money you're going to start making. But I think for us, you know, you see a lot of, you know, bullshit out here on the podcast. Muffuck is trying to create stories. and narratives and poking and, you know, trying to grab your attention on some non-authentic shit. But that's not what we want to do.

Everything we want to put out is just real and authentic and, you know, be relatable and not just trying to create a firestorm on social media. That's not my thing. I'm cool on that. So, and that shit is not sustainable. You know, you're just creating and trying to make up some shit. And then you get caught at your bullshit that you're saying, right?

So it was just about, man. And really with all the shit that I got lined up with my one-on-one leave, with ABCD, the camp that I got coming out, with NBC. So it was just, you know, it's the only right that I started it with him. No doubt.

Perfect. How's the new broadcasting gig with Vince and Mello and them guys over there? How's that going on? Dope. All of Fame class, you know, Mel, Maria, Cazzo, you know, for them. Who's the girl?

They got a girl there? Yeah, Maria Taylor. they put a good team together. You know, Mel, male coming, he's staying mellow doing his thing, very articulate, funny,

pro Nix. That's on what, what, NBC. Yeah, NBC. Because then we got my guys over there at, uh,

prime, they're getting busy too, dirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,

for sure. Oh, that's cool, too. I love seeing all of y'all. I like, I like seeing D-Ways on NBC. Just,

they got a, they got, The new, you know, analysts that are spread out with different, you know, companies that are doing a great job of pushing the game for it. You know, before they was talking about how the old niggas was just, you know, shitting on the players. I think, you know, the new regime is doing a great job really up. You know, I want to be the next analyst.

Come on, man, you come on NBC. We're right. We're 40 minutes. Listen. You know, we're in Stanford. Listen. We're in Stanford, Connecticut. Connecticut?

Yeah. Yeah. I want a job. And Stephen A. Smith was sitting right there. He said, you ain't never getting a job. He said, by the time you explain your story, the whole game will be over, Joe. He said, his motherfuckers try to see it. I forget who told me, yo, you should have told that motherfucker.

Go fuck himself. You could do whatever. Somebody told me. Some of my analysts told me, you should tell him, go fuck himself. You could do whatever you want, Joe. Don't let them count your blessings. You got to be quick on TV. You got to be quick.

Yeah, you got to be quick. Yeah, man. That's what you say you were like, Joe, by the time you start the, hey, I knew him in kindergarten and shit. Yeah, no, you can't. You can't be telling you. Your story's got to be clipped. You won't even have enough flags on the show.

You're like, because they're moving. They're moving. They're playing the game. Play-by-play, like the in-game play-by-s? No, I ain't with that. That's what he didn't tell you. He told Stephen A. He won't Clark-Frasia.

Nah. Look, see. Nah. You don't want that. Yo, you know what I'm a first story. These motherfuckers don't want 10 trips on the car. You ain't said a play yet. Flag on the plate.

You got to give me a shot. Swishing in addition. Listen, I come from nothing. I think I could adjust. After one game by the, after one week, I'll be like, tiggily-l-d-tig-tig-do-tig-tig-d-ch-a-da-da-da. You know, I'll be going. Nah, that ain't it.

Yo, so I had some crazy moments in my career. We talked about one. What is like, give me one of your, like, give me one of your best verses you spit. I'm going to tell you his best moment in hip hop history. Oh, I already know it is. I'm talking to you. What was it?

Shit, when he, the versus joint. The versus joint. Yo, the versus joint? He took a shot at me too. He said, y'all, them guys, the fake New York guys live in Miami. I'm like, oh, when he started talking to the Brown. I'm looking like Miami. I had the coach Brown sneaker on.

Little like I came off the yacht. Niggas got hoodings on. He was talking. Push-ishis. I'm up in there looking like Hermaz. I'm like, you guys fake New Yorkers living in Miami. You said, come to my block. What you say, kids?

I'm outside. Outside, man. I'm outside. I'm outside. And in Colorado. No, that was such a magic. That was like fucking fire. Eighty-one.

But you are a guy that we believe you could have hit 81. I believe you couldn't hit 81. In the versus, I believe your scoring champion. I asked you a question, though. Nobody thought that you was going to have a problem. Joe. My best verse, I could give you. Big brother.

I'm going to tell you right now, my best verse of all time was with Big hell, the enemy. Enough's enough. Ferey Riles trying to set me up, put me in cups and crush what I lost into dust. Plus, they want a nigga's soul, but they know Big Joey Crack and never rat a cat. They didn't know for show. That before this honor. Now, that one, Big Al's my little brother digging in the craze. And he threatened me.

We had D&D studio where Primo did the beat. And he was like, y'all, I'm going to take all your fans. He made me write the shit in front of him. and he was like, yo, I'm going and so I take the most pride in that burglars. But I think my biggest moment ever

that I ever felt like a fake versus because he had the whirl in his hand was lean back at Summer Jam. That shit was only out two days. Right? And Hot 97 fronted on me performing there.

Hot 97, the actual structure Homer hip hop Said, nah, you can't perform I understand it was only two days old Little John That's why I said it took a brother In the remix, it took a down south Brother to bring your boy out

Little John said I want you to do that new song Two days My lifestyle was like that in the hood too Two days And that 70,000 started leaning back And that's how we knew That's something I said

You got him. We got them. We got them. We got them. Conier West was performing that day. I seen them in the back. Somebody must have told him he going to do the lean back. Yeah.

He was peeking out the back. Like, and them niggas went quick. Two days. We got them. The whole stadium was like, we actually did it, I think, twice in the row. And it was just, it was my moment where I was like, and I needed it. Yeah. You know, all my hits came at a time where, you know,

I really. really needed that head, you know, financially. Yeah, yeah. You're looking my man with the wittoons on, man. You got to buy him with the spoons on. Yeah, I don't really... You got too many. I think it's just different meaning.

Different feelings, different emotions. There's got to be, it will probably be one with X or one with big. You know what I mean? Because those are the days you was able to be in the studio with them and make this song. That's that competition. Yeah, it makes you stay. Except your game up. Except your game up.

So you're actually in the studio with these dudes. John Blaz and all that. All that, it was there. Nais was there. Ray Korn's there. He's there. Everybody's there. Back in the day, it wasn't no...

Fires. I think that's what separates the music of today. You're not... You can be in Egypt and somebody send you the files or the stems. That can never compare to being in the same room. Stoppins, iron, man.

Just imagine you have like, you have like, everybody got little input. Right? So everybody's there working together. It's going to come out better. It's going to come out better.

And I believe in great minds for sure. More than one. And so, you know, at that time, it was a great time for hip-hop where everybody was working with each other. Another thing for me

is I, you know, this guy, I don't know, you know, Jay-Z, big pun, J-Dice, Eminem, they were just going to be rappers. There's just no way around him. He was born, you know, some people were fucking carpenters, some people were bakers, something, they just born with that shit. Me, I wizu to my way in as a street hustler and said, this is the way out. I'm going to talk some real shit and work on my shit together.

better. Yeah. Right. So when I finally put like a number one out the park, I couldn't believe it. I was on my knees

praying to God like, yo, what the fuck because it's like, number one. What was the first one? Walk out of here. What's love? And Irv Gotti,

rest of peace, call me. I was in Houston, Texas. I was at a Marriott Marquis and he woke me up. He just was like, it's platinum. It's number one.

And I was just like, what? And I went on my knees immediately. It started praying the guard because I couldn't believe, wow, that Joey from far as projects got a number one. Everybody singing this shit everywhere. That shit was unreal. And every time I didn't, every time I had a number one, the number two or a top 10 record, I couldn't believe it. I never could believe it. I was just like, yo, this is crazy.

We put one out again. We give it there. It's just really nothing like that. It's like you were the dunk contest or some shit. I don't know how to explain it. Here we got like, here we don't, well, here I'm from the hood. Yeah. Miami, I'm boogey.

You know what I'm saying? So here we don't have marks. We got like Fordham Road. We got 1.25th. Bro, it's nothing like standing out there. and you hear every single call. Bumping your shit. Pumping your shit.

And they used to do it. No doubt. I'm not going to lie. It was a big moment to me when I would be like, if I dropped the album and I went to 1.25th and every car was driving by, bumping that shit.

You ever did that? No, that's like me, man. You never did that? Going around, going to other countries. Everybody did that. Yeah, for sure. So that was the way to see, that was lit before Lynn.

You go see where his shit is that You gotta go outside and see They're coming by four and I was sitting on On corner You got your shit We're playing this shit Yo, the shit is hot That was it

No, I know that feeling man That's like, you know The first time I saw somebody on my shoes On my signature shoe That shit was dope And I just That's all I used to look for man Damn he got the max on

That's another moment Let me tell you what happened to me we put out the terrorist squad of the Air Force, right? And I think I was in Vegas or somewhere I had a show. Man, they sent me pictures of the lines out the stores. I was looking at every customer's face. Like, the sneakers are different.

So I'm looking at every, I'm like, yo, they fuck with us. Yo, they did for the sneaker. That's different. Putting out a sneaker and his fucking lines down the block, I still got the pictures on my phone. Now, I look, that every single person. I was like, yo, this shit is crazy. Russia, bad houses, send me some pictures from Dubai.

Dubai ain't even into sneaker culture like that. They had to line out that shit. Ten minutes, they bought them shit's out in Dubai. And I was looking at every single person's face because what kind of love they got to have to go spend a hundred-something dollars on a pair of sneakers is different for just even the music.

Yeah. But, yeah, you know, I'll give you one thing. thing, and then we go, when Big Pun died, right, the day Big Pun died. That night, Steph Marbury used to be, you know, we was family. He was with him every day. And Steph said, watch the game. And so the strongest Steph was, he was more of a finesse player. He liked to shoot.

He liked to lay it up. He liked to cross you. That night, he had a fast break, and he did a windmill, 360. Boom, and dunked that. that shit. And when he landed, he pointed up to the sky. And after the game, I talked to me. He was like, that's for pun. You seem to dunk. I was like, yo, Steph, good looking, man.

That shit was crazy that night. He did that shit. You know, those are moments. You know what I'm saying? You got to create those moments, man. Those are the ones that last. It's all about those moments. That's crazy moments. Man, I'm tuning into your podcast. I don't watch a lot of podcasts because we're number one. So why are we going to watch it? It's number two and number two. on number four

we all get money I don't give a damn number one number three shout out the stack I fuck with stat Matt Barnes I fuck with their shit a lot of people

I fuck shout out to my brother Norrie for inspiring me to even get in the game Poppy Poppy we love you and so it's a you know

I'll just be talking my shit threatening everybody just get them on that got rid of a whole section of dudes It's enough money. He told me to have mercy. Yo, yo, your man, Jay, the kids really for the streets.

He really loved the streets. He said, yo, mercy. He came to me and said, mercy, Joe, mercy. You're going too crazy on these guys. Please let them eat, man. Stop. And I backed up. I'm from that.

I'm from the dirty section. Oh, my God. I am the dirty. Ah! Yo, what are you doing that with the hospital shit on right now? You're looking real rich right now. 30 sexes sometimes. See, look at this.

Nah, you want to smoke. Please film me before I get out of here real quick. Fill me. You got a record? Kiss. You got a record, teammate? Oh, Nigel Sebastian. Just scared with a question.

So my kiss. Oh, you got a request? He wanted to hear film. Yeah, I got to hear film me before I get out of here. I got to go doing the... Another interview. Wasting your time doing a podcast with somebody else. I'm telling you.

flow with it. You want me to come over here with you all? I'm just saying whenever you want to come up and do a podcast, you come to here. Sports and hip-hop. Everybody else tries. All I want you to do is film me. Yeah.

I'm going to walk off on this one. You play this in the locker room. Drew up, very athletic, hard-headed. I thought I knew everything. Wanted to do everything. I was spoiled, stubborn. Only child. The only thing I do is hold it down.

Since little kid, been wicking with the folks, since little kid, G.I. I chose and I Cic's. After that it was like skin girls in Nikes. Junior high school, in high school, couple of semesters of college and then night school. Mom start riffing, talking about how she can't support a grown man. So the guards start flipping. Pop's used to say shit whenever to be much.

It was like he wasn't even there because we ain't in three much. Hey. He's gone for whole weeks of the time. Puffin 11th. the roll three out of dime. What? I find myself sleeping in late doing nothing. Fucking running with the niggas that was us.

Hey. My wasn't open in. Niggas was working for a Ben Jordan. Next two weeks, they was broke again. Me and Kay keep having talks and smoking. But the block is crowd waiting for opening. Meanwhile, shit still slow. We ain't flowing.

Never stopped. Look back. We're still going. Bob passed the demo to Mary. She passed it to cousin. We thought it was on. Wasn't. And we can't blame nobody.

Look at us now, dog We came in the game Nobody's Double R in the scope Put that cake up And we ain't go platinum But we made niggas wake up Got them all talking about pumping a brick

And they only go and see Poppy To get something to sniff About the fucking game up for real Like in the World Series Nicky that Paris you down the film Hey rapper provide you bars And the pain is invisible

But you can't hide the scars No, never be on the level That we're on. The ability to have dope thoughts spin that wrong. I'm good just waking up. I know I got one more chance. They're going to catch him and kick it up.

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