Joe and Jada - Ty Dolla $ign on 'Tycoon' album, Kanye West & 'Vultures,' Lady Gaga & R&B eras

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome one of the most celebrated voices in R&B hip hop to the blue couch as Ty Dolla $ign joins Joe and Jada ahead of his upcoming 'Tycoon' album, which comes out this Friday, October 17th. Ty breaks down his single "SMILE BODY PRETTY FACE" featuring Kodak Black and YG, his famous collaborations with Kanye West on the 'Vultures' albums, working with Mariah Carey on "The Distance," signing "MUTT" singer Leon Thomas to his record label EZMNY Records, meeting Prince in his youth, and explains why the artist he wants to work with the most is Lady Gaga. 6:30 - First solo project since 2020: 'Tycoon' out Oct. 17th 9:15 - Owning his own label 11:30 - Kanye West & 'Vultures' era 19:00 - Working w/ Kodak Black & YG on "SMILE BODY PRETTY FACE" 21:15 - Screening his documentary at Tribeca Film Festival 33:45 - Being a girl dad & hilarious parenting talk 36:30 - They're going CRAZY over in Dubai 45:00 - Working with Mariah Carey 47:30 - What was the best R&B era? + Wanting to work with Lady Gaga 51:15 - Fat Joe's biggest problem with hip hop right now 59:15 - Collaborating with Hitmaka [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we keep our word to you with just that. Today, you got to give it up for our guests. He's the hookmaster. He's the songmaster. He can talk your lady out of drawers if you let him. He can give you, he can bring you back if you're searching for a hit. If you need some help, just getting help.

getting your career off the ground or back off the ground or whatever you need musically, he's the go-to guy. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother, Todd Dollar Sine. Appreciate you.

Appreciate you. How you like that intro? I love that. That's actually the best intro so far. I definitely might use that on the album. I was hoping to salute you. Yo, let me tell you something. That was a hell of a fucking intro right there.

It was all facts as well. Sometimes he leaves off a little. It's all facts. Sometimes he tries to go too humble. I'm like, yo, bro, we just had hit boy there, alchemist in my world. That's like fucking Beethoven and Mozart. I'm like, yo, hold on, let's just call a Beethoven to Mozart. These guys are phenomenal.

But we have Todd Dallisand who could have been a member of Boystabent. Could have been a member. of Guy. It would have been a member of Jodacy. I think you're the only artist because believe it or not, you've been the game in a while

but you're still the relevant youth artists. Yeah. Nobody looks at you like, yo, you know, you're the only one that I could just mention and say, yo, he could have been in

one of these legendary groups. What's that like it? Did you come up listening to these guys? Yeah, I definitely came up listening to them guys and even further back. My pops was in the group Lakeside. So

Fantastic boy Exactly exactly So from near And even before that Slip inside The father was in that group Yeah That's ill

That's it So I've been like Studying all the different R&B styles The rock styles The hip hop styles And all that applies To what I'm doing today

When you was young You was able to meet Prince Earth winning fire Yeah What did that spark What did that do For your

Musical DNA? I mean it put me on to the greatest music possible. You know what I mean? So like I said, all that still applies in what I'm doing today. You know what I'm saying? You can just reach back into the files

and be like, oh yeah, let's use that sound or let's use that riff or whatever case. You want to know what's crazy is. You know what I'm tight, we're cooling Dre. And I remember, you know, Dre makes hooks. And one day Dre made a hook

that nobody could sing. He did that. brown paper bag and we try to get every top singer in the use of the universe at the time for Cali nobody could have hit

Oh Jay didn't want to stay on it It was like a reference But we used Whoever was the hottest guys at the time It was Callis single We was trying to get them on there And they couldn't hit that note Pause right

I feel like you There's nothing you can't do Like you could Like nobody can give you a reference that you can't do that. Yeah, for sure. That's crazy. Because some people be like,

yo, I can't. No, for sure, for sure. Like I said, if it wasn't for pops for real, man, and all that put me on to all that old stuff, it's like I always try to mimic every single thing, starting back from what you said, Prince, Earth went and fire.

That's some very high notes. You know what I'm saying? I may not be able to get way up there, but I'll figure it out. You get it. Like, yeah. I'll turn my. voice into a chipmunk if I have to.

That's really crazy. The first solo project in nearly four years, Tycoon. Yeah. What made you want to pull the trigger right now? What told you? I'm always doing music. I was going to

put out a solo project before I started the Voltres era. You know what I'm saying? And now it's time for the solo project. So Tycoon, 10, 17, it's 15 tracks on there.

If you buy the album, then you get to extra bonus tracks. Bangor after bangor after bangor is something for everybody, man. I look at my shit. My album's like a restaurant, you know what I'm saying?

It's like... I got something on the menu for everybody. Exactly. You got to have every restaurant I go to. I'm like, yo, what's the Big Mac? Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to McDonald's.

You need the Big Mac been... The Big Mac been paying the rat for. a long time. You go to Burger King it's a Wopper. Right? Something pays the bills all the time.

So I go to a restaurant I said, listen, man, it's my first time here. What's your big? I need the Big Mac. What's the best shit

that everybody? Somebody is coming in there every night they want that fish. They want that. It's always something. Yeah. You know,

he's saying he got 15 Big Macs on that album and two free if you purchase the album. Right. Yeah. Now look,

we got features some mean ones, Kodak Black. YG, him and YG always make fire joints. Question. Oh, Leon Thomas. That's, take your time.

That's him. Okay. Yeah, Leon Thomas also signed on my label. Oh, where? He was our first artist we signed to Easy Money Records. Shout to my brother, Champan.

Well, you're getting a lot of fucking... What are the money over there, dog? They should die. Don't start bragging about no money, Jay, to get real fucking, man. You getting a lot of money over there, man. Let him start bragging about money. That motherfucker be like, yo, man.

Y, y'all get too. much. Buddy. He's the first artist on your label. He's the first artist on the label. What's the song? What's the song again? Mutt. The shit you are? Oh, yeah. Number one. Number one. Oh, that's that shit. Number one

Rhythmic. Number one, all type of other shit. He got a new record that just reached number 11 on Hot 100. So you're moving, man. Shout out to the other four artists that we just signed. Who's the other four artists? Let's give him a shot of. You got RJ the weirdo. You got Keith Turner. You got

Busy Crook. major, and you got Sage from Texas. Man, everybody on the label's crazy, for sure. I know you know so much, you know music so much, and with them being talented, y'all just

sitting to give a plotting on music it's going to be incredible. Yeah, for sure. You know, let Jay, what's, what area you went? Because, you know, I jump all over the place. No, I'm just supposed to ask them, how is it having your own label? Like, what's the, how do you like it so far? I like it, because

I basically get to bless back and everything that happened to us as artists when we saw mistakes I get to make sure that them same mistakes don't happen this way

ways that I feel like we should have been getting paid and somebody was fucking us over I ain't gonna do that to the next people like certain people would be like oh this happened to me so that's what you're supposed to do but I'm like nah man

let's clean this shit up no that's how ratting became a thing yeah somebody ratted it they said somebody ran it on me, then it turned it turned into an epidemic. How would just get on the rats that fast? Nah, we just, nah, but what he's trying to say is, that's my vision, right? You know, people always used to say artists shouldn't sign the artist.

My vision was always, we got fucked. Yeah, who can help you better than the artist? We made all those mistakes. So we're trying to guide you so you don't make the mistakes. I mean, I'm all in with that. Easy money is the name of the label, huh? Easy money, the name of the label. Le Bonarjean, the name of the champagne.

That mean, good money. Born on Scho. Tidea, sign. Todd Dollar sign. He is the money. He is the money. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

It's just sound like it's from France and all. It is. It can't be champagne if it ain't from France. We ain't big a bitch and ain't. Lebron Arjohn. All right. All right, Jada, you got me. You got it.

I mean, you know it is what it is. We got the documentary coming soon. It's called Still Free T.C. Yes, sir. You get to see the whole lifespan of Thai Dallasine for the beginning until now the ups and downs. I mean, people only get to see the good shit, but this time you get to see the family.

You get to see everything I went through coming up, growing up in South Central and making it to the levels that we had now. And even there's, you know, still struggle now, you know what I'm saying, that you got to go through to get to the next level because there's always a level I'm trying to reach. I ain't comfortable.

You know, the elephant in the room is, what's it like doing a project with Kanye West? Yeah. In the middle, because I feel like you stood tall with him when people ain't want to stand next to him at the time. Yeah.

And you was in crazy Kanye Trent, like you was in there. Yeah. Like at the shit. What? And the flames of the flames. What's it? What made you say, y'all, I'm a stand with this man.

Are we going to make music? Because we know how that shit be. Would somebody be into some hot shit? Everybody run away. Yeah. What made you say, nah, this is the time I'm going to hold my man down and I'm going to make music with him. And what is that whole shit?

That whole time. When it kind of making music, you already know what it would do with him. You know what I'm saying? like just from the track record and then y'all see what happened with us. The music is the music. Vogel's one number one. You know what I'm saying?

So it was a success. A lot of people say whatever they say, but I stick to my guns. I made one of the best musical projects ever. Like you said at the intro, when you want to come to music, you come to me, you know what I'm saying? And I did that over there.

You know what I mean? All the bullshit, six, seven, you know what I'm saying? It's not even worth talking about. He hit you with the six-seller You know this shit Yeah but What I'm trying to say is You know when I recorded

I recorded one song with Kanye He made me do my verse With 400 people on the hook But you were there You bless me on that hook man But they ain't about the buddy I don't really care Would you say it 400 people on the hook

Yeah so we did a joint Probably 50 people on the hook What's a 50? It was you Buster, Mo's death was mad people. Mad people. What, before it came out or?

No, he made the hook. Yeah, he had some genius idea that he heard different vocals and he made mad people saying. What did he say came out hard or not? Came out great, but it was already a hit, right? So it was like, I'm coming right off of the Chris Brown another round. Yeah. You know when you're on fire, you got that extra,

that your ears like, okay, so we had a joint that we did with Bink and Rico Love, and then Kanye was like, yo, I want to work with you. Now, he's one of my favorite artists of all this are. He's a genius. So I said, great. He said, what you think?

When you dropped it. And then I play it for him. He says, I got some idea. He turned the whole song around, right? So it was like, just think another round part too. We already had the dope hook, this, this. And he turned to hip hop. And he was like, even if it was about the money,

he put everybody in their mother. on the hook. So it was like 10 of us, 15 of us on the hook. But the point I'm saying is I was in the studio. That's the one from 4,000. He made me say my verse. Maybe a hundred times in the world. It would be like, colder sack.

Coldersack. Colder sack. I'm like, look, you know, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I got the Kanye at the time I might have been the only dude that ever lost with the niggins. Like, you know what I'm saying? because I'm thinking everything he does wins. He's over there. That was a good shoot.

Yeah, but, you know, I want the supremacy. You know what it is. And then he goes... I want to be number one. You know how that shit go? And then I go to man go. He makes me take... I'm independent, by the way.

I've been independent for 15 years. So I pay for my videos, my samples, my songs, my... Everything. I pay for everything. The man won a fucking hype William video. We shoot a Hype William video. Hype William, I swear to God. He came with a flashlight.

Hype William came with like a regular camera. And I paid hundreds of thousands. And he had the flashlight on us while we was, like, you talk about getting jerked in your face. Latching, you know. Oh, pause? Yes. Yo, you know how much money I paid for this shit.

This thing came with a flash. That's like, you think of Hype Williams, you're going to float in the air and all that shit, man, came with the flashlight. I'm looking, then I go, and then the only thing... I'm trying to remember this video. Oh, yeah, proud of the joke. That one fucking was hard, though, huh?

We got, y'all, listen, listen. Y'all, you better stop. You better stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't. Yo, listen, y'all, Ty. The man made me use Hype Williams. All right, so.

I'm just saying I'm independent, right? It's a lot of money, but not only that, the only thing he ever charged me for was his wardrobe. I walked by the fucking his wardrobe. He got $7,000 tang tops of shit. Man, I used to rob supermarkets, B. I fucking had a problem with this shit. You hear me?

Like a tang top, $7,000. I'm walking through it from France. That's the hustle, right? What's the hustle? No charge. Just expenses. And the expenses is fucking. Bro.

I went through that wardrobe. I was walking out that shit twitching. Like, yo, who's paying for this? You are? This is the wardrobe. The separate wardrobe on a... Man, boy, hit me with a fucking ham on my head. I said, boom, he come over there.

You remember what the bill was? It was about $49,000. But the problem is... This is for his wardrobe? If a man came with some bout tega, he killed. He was tank tops, bro. I'm not exaggerating. Like, who the fuck want to pay $7,000 for a tank?

I'm looking at the shit. I say, this shit unreal. It's going to be number one, Joe. I even lost because, you know, you got to put down a radio budget. Like, I'm a radio. Like, I go for the home run. I don't play. Right?

So I put down the radio budget, a couple of hundred thousand out my pocket. And the shit don't work. And I doubled down on the radio. It's the only record in the world I ever paid twice for the radio, but I doubled down on the bitch. I was like, no, this shit, got to go. Stick with the program. I was like, no, yo, bro, I took a big hell.

But I was happy I got to work with him. But, you know, nobody ever made me say the verse 100 times. That's crazy. So I know what that was like. You working with the man. Yeah, I never had to say a verse 100 times. I heard other people say the same story for sure That's that producer shit though

You know? It's like So he hears what he's looking for Yeah Keep doing it I'm a producer as well though So it's like You play every instrument right Yeah for sure

Yeah So your father told you The only thing I don't play is like brass And woodwinds and shit like that But bass guitar Keys drums Make the beats Write the song

Produce the song engineer the song, whatever you want to do. Man, promote the motherfuckers. All that. Promotions. That's all the extra shit. You know what I'm saying? That's like, you know, we creatives, we want to make the shit, see it going.

And then they're like, all right, now you got to go promote the shit. You got to kiss babies and fucking, like, nobody promoted. People just think it's just going to studio and make a song. And that's it. It's way bigger. that. But so would they join with Kodak. How was it making that?

It was easy. Me and Kodak had another song on my album. He was like, yo, man, I really want to use this song for my album at the last fucking minute. I'm like, all right. He was like, don't trip. I got you on another one.

And he sent me that. That might be better than the other one. But we're going to see. His album about to drive next thing. He's going to have the other one on there. No doubt. But yeah, man. Shout out to Kodak.

As soon as I did my part, I'm like, okay, this guy, be the one because I didn't have YG on the album but I was looking for one but I'm like all right this perfect because it feels west it feels west side but you know it's still got all the other elements and shit so YG hopped on here

and here we are smile body pretty face it's out right now I mean let me tell you something brother man you don't work with some characters man you just you just a safe place they see you as a safe place but um man I've just been a big

fan, man. I love when you bless me with the me and Remme with the money showers. Oh, that's a classic right there. Money showers?

Yeah. Brain. Ray, rain. Oh, a lot of money showers. Thank you for having me on that train too. What? Yeah.

That shit fire right there, man. Like I said, man, you never let me down, man. You always come through, man. You're really great guy, man. A great, great person, man. I want to make sure you get your flowers.

I'm sure your fans know that too because you, you manage to stay out of controversy and all that bullshit. You know what I'm saying? Everybody feel like they got to be. But here on this podcast, we just celebrate. You know, we preserve the culture. You know what I mean?

You know, a lot of other people like to just deal with the controversy and what's the shit to say to be fucked up or whatever the case may be. We don't do that. Yeah. The documentary, you showed it at the Tribeca Film Festival. Yeah, I showed it by the time of the lights. came on, man, you've seen tears.

You've seen just everybody ready to free T.C. Like, what can I do? So in the documentary, it shows my whole life coming up. Some of y'all know, if you're a real Tide Dollar Sign fan. My first album was called Free T.C. Because my little brother locked up for a murder that everyone in the city knows he didn't do. And the witness that said he did it originally came back and said she was coerced.

Nothing has happened since then. And he's just been in that situation. We all know that he's not the only one that this has happening to is people all over. And I used that first album to bring awareness to that situation. And we're still in this situation. So I wanted to give you more of a visual

than just songs. So people could really fuck with it and really feel it. And maybe that would give me to who I need to get to because I feel like in this life, like what really matters is who you know. You know what I mean?

That's like a lot of people out here that is going to tell you whatever to get your money. I got to keep it real with you because you're my brother and you've been 10,000 with me. Here we don't do the politics but you need to get next to somebody

who knows Donald Trump. Yeah. You might be right next to Kodak Black. He know who to talk to. You know what I'm saying? Right there. He got to call. Holl out of us, Robbie Draft, somebody.

I'm telling you the truth. Real tall. If your brother's really innocent, you got these people right around you, like, Colette Black, know who the fuck to talk to? You should ask them, who you talk to? Who is your lawyer? Who represented you?

And that's where you go, and you are correct. It's all about who you know. That's it. Brother innocent. No, that's it. That's it. I don't know why I didn't think of that. I consider myself a very smart person,

but I don't know how the fuck I didn't think of that. No, Kodak Black, know who to talk to. No, that's it, for sure. Definitely going to make that happen. You know, he ain't that crazy. The motherfucker thing, he's crazy. He's smarting up behind that wall. He said, yo, go get Roger Walsenthorpe.

That motherfucker get me out of jail. Hell yeah, shit. Hell yeah, that's what you got to get. Oh, that's it. I'm just telling you the true, free game. You know what I'm saying? Free T-C, man. Free T-C.

That's crazy. And the documentary, you know, like me, I don't have people filming me and shit like that. I don't really trust nobody. So how hard is that for you to have people filming you? I purposely, I think I would have some fire content if I had a cameraman with you all day, but I'd be in y'all stepping shit, a hundred times.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I keep them, it's away from me, bro. You know what I'm saying? But you did it in purpose of a documentary one day? It's just been, I've been getting filmed my whole life, for real, and I'm sure you have as well. And it was just like getting all that footage, you know, from the kids shit all the way till now.

And then 2013, 14, I really, like, had a guy, like, following me on certain shit and put all that footage together, made a timeline, put in story form, did some narration. And now you got a documentary, you know, got my mom in there, got my pops in there. of course got the calls with my brother got the lawyers got the whole story you know what I mean I still got to come back right now and put my sister in there

because once I watch the whole thing then she called like oh I'm not in the documentary I'm like oh fuck can't leave nobody out you can't leave nobody out you don't work that way yeah

it don't work that way but I got to put my sister I know you should not have put it in this I'm just trying to say we talk all the time we be like yo you just in life you just can't make everybody happy.

You can't. And she was in here too, but she just didn't get it. It wasn't enough. Yeah, she got it. She needed to get it. I remember I did something big, like an award show, and I got one of my brothers in there. And just, I thought it felt like, you know, he keeping it rear with his day one. His day one is there.

I got the phone calls from people so mad that I had my man front row, like, because they wasn't there, this. You know that we, I was like, in some scandal. and shit. But, I'm like, yo, all I try to do was show love. I swear to God.

And let you know, yo, Fad Joe might be on this level, but he didn't forget the day ones. And that turned into all the other day ones tight as a fuck. No, that's how it goes. You just can't make nobody happy.

That's how it goes. From homies to family, all that shit, it'd be crazy, bro. In his music shit. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. I just want to take all my money

and move to an island and change my number and leave me to fuck alone, let me eat a mango on the beach. I thought about doing that a couple times, bro. I heard they got

castles and motherfucking Great. I heard they got $2 million castles and shit in Europe and then you could be a Duke. You could be a Duke for us up a castle

go mind your business, man because it's like shit. I might get up out of here. Like, these motherfuckers you ever felt like they're trying to bust your Like, I be feeling like they're trying to, like, dead-ass bust my brain, though, bitch. Like, with all the bullshit that come at you and everybody's insensitive and you're going through this, you're going through that.

They don't give a fuck about you. They don't care about us. They don't give a fuck if your high pressure, your blood pressure high. They want to crack this shit. You know what? You know what? They don't really care about us. I'm ready to make my will.

And all my money go to the fucking the kid's choir of Memphis, Tennessee, some shit. I never even met. They'd be like, sit the whole family around and be like, until the animal preservation of Congo. Fadjo left all the money. They're going to perch. Fuck you.

They're going to go crazy. Oh, they're going to go crazy, man. They're going to go crazy. This shit going to quick up. It's going to be somebody I don't even fucking know. To the skin. And the Navy and kids in the Catholic school, all the fucking money. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet.

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You're grilled dad. How are you like? Man, I love it. When I ain't going to lie, when I knew I was about to have a daughter, I was scared of shit. Of course. I was trying to figure out her. She's 20 now, bro. 20 years old.

If I'm doing a 19, I know. So you know exactly how it is. What? So look, my 20, she just started at Pepperdine University. 21 and 10. Pepperdine University to get her master's degree. So, yeah, you did the math. She already got her BA at C-Sons.

And when she graduated high school, the same week she graduated high school, she graduated from Pierce Community College as well because she was already taking classes during high school. The same week? Same week, bro. Wow. So she went and did the two years at C-San, graduated from there a couple months back,

and now started at Pepperdine and get her master. So I'm super proud of her, and I've been talking about her every day, man. Just like doing what we do and to be able to have your daughter, like, go all the way to that level and have that focus. Let's get some big deal. Let's give her a round. You know what I'm saying? Fucking big deal.

I've seen a lot of kids. in her position with parents like us that just lean on the parents you know what I'm saying? I know most of the kids yeah most of them and that's like

that's not it that's not it yeah nigga y'all hear us the motherfuckers they lean I don't hear me with my son

he's way more mature now he graduated college too thank God but I remember he showed me one day he said dad you know who this is and I really didn't know

he was a kid walking on the G4 was Dr. Dr. Grayson. He was like, real bosses' sons are moving. I said, man, if you don't get the fuck up out my face, Nick, we are not Dr. Drake. You are a fat Joe on a fat Joe salary, motherfucker. Get

out of it. Like, yo, like, they can, man. Even now. Yeah. So even now, I'm a little older. So when they book me for after party or something, the crowd in the club, you know, So, my man, I'm a flyest old evening

you ever seen in your life. I don't ever do that to you. So I'm redefining the spectrum of five shit. Lloyd's in London. I don't get this shit fucked up. I know what I'm doing to him. I'm putting belt to that ass. The youths, they didn't be like,

Dan, oh, gee. Anyway, sometimes I do the after party or whatever and there's mad young kids. Mad young kids. Yeah. 19, 20, 21, this and that, and they're jumping on the couch, 100 bottles, they're just spending their parents' money.

Right. There's just no fucking way. They earned that money. Popping a hundred bucks. Yo, bro. I was in Dubai like two, three weeks in a row. Shit. You know, I see you about there.

For sure. When I saw you... When I saw you... Salam to my dog money kicks. Yeah, yeah. Washa. Salam al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. Bis-a-a-a-a.

M-a-a-a-a. I am Ali Kashani. You know, out there, I got a whole other name. I'm Ali Kashani. Oh, fire. You know, I go to the mall. I drink me a little cup of... You know, I don't really drink,

so I drink a cup of coffee and Chipriani, and I just people watch. Yeah. And I tell a lot of jokes in my head. I don't tell the people. But anyway... Yeah. I'm performing.

I'm performing. They put you upstairs, and you look down. And the type of shit, You bro You know they pop in so many bottles It's just not There's no way they can drink it

Yeah Even if you got a group of 10 guys 10 girls 200 bottles of crystal lace This the shit is And I'm looking over the thing Because you know I like the ball

But I'm like You know Paws No no I like you know I spend money This is my problem I have a problem

I spend money But I'm looking at this shit And they're like from UK They bring flags out Lidgets with fucking bottles This big All type of shit I'm looking at the shit

I'm like You're where the fuck Is this Bitcoin Is this Bitcoin Is this fucking What the fuck Are they doing out here Right

Some shit man My homie Destructo He's a DJ in the house world or whatever. His son, 19 years old, this nigga just bought his first Porsche nigga, all that, off of crypto.

Before that, he was selling sneakers and shit. Now, legit, everything fully, like, bawling on these things. That's why I have no excuse. I don't even take, I don't even, like, let people try to, like, make excuses, bro. Because I see the 19-year-old do it. It's like...

Yo, bro, the levels. Yeah. The level. They're looking like BMF in the club right now in this shit. You look at them as little kids. And I'm just like, they're doing a lot. They're doing too much.

I hope they're going to, I hope they save a dollar one day. Because the shit they're doing, and they got this thing where they go on the thing. Right? They got like a thing on the thing. No, no, they got like a teleprompter, right? And they'd be like, the UK boys is in the building. Fuck, you broke mother. Like, they could text.

They're having bottle wars in Dubai Club Blue. I swear shout out to see it. And they're like, the guy who just, just bought the 40 bottles. He's like, fuck the other side to the UK. And then it comes back. Afghanistan say, suck my dick. 100 bottles.

Like, yo, I'm looking at this shit. I'm sitting there. I'm trying to, yo, bro, I'm trying to go home with a thousand. We used to do it like, yeah. I'm trying to go. Niggins stopped out here. Niggins stopped drinking champagne out here for a bottle. My family doesn't understand that I'm trying to go home with a dollar.

When I cross the border To a different territory I'm trying to actually Come back to pay the mortgage If I bring them They're gonna blow the whole bag Like immediately The minute it goes like this

I'm gonna say we're in the SLS Hotel The minute wife is a bunk Atlantis Sweet of a Lifetime Four Seasons The whole floor The whole shit change What restaurant

I could go to a fucking Swala This place to go get some fucking Shulama. Now it turns into Milos. Give me the table by the fucking water. Look, look, how about you guys don't come? And I bring home a dollar. Right.

And you can shop, do whatever you want to do. How about please don't come because I spend more than I'm going to make. Right. Does this make sense? It's shit crazy out there. Right. Now, they're going. They're doing the big in Dubai for sure.

And so your daughter, she got the, she got the diplomas. And now that's the day. Pepper Dine. Listen, that's all we could pray for. It's for our kids to be successful and do good in life. I mean, that's the American dream. And you bless, man, it's good. She's level-headed because if she's going for the master's, you know, like,

she's sharp. No, she's it, for sure. And the guys, the guys is like they want to date that Todd Dollar's daughter. No. Hey, we ain't even getting this all out that. Yeah, yeah, we bring no... We ain't doing that. Fuck all them little niggas, man.

No, I'm just saying, yeah, we want to... Yeah. I'm trying to tell you. She got to stay focused. Yo! I try to tell you, boy, I kill these motherfuckers out here, man. We got the tracker. One day my daughter in the summer, she was a little bit too much in Harlem.

I was like, oh, no. What's going on? This shit was like three in the morning. And I'm ready to put my clothes on. I'm like, yo, the tracker shit's haul them. You said Washington. What the fuck is going? On over.

You remember that said, I'm calling it. Going to Washington Heights, going to Harlem, call her. She definitely had a long-time boyfriend, though, and, like, how I looked at it because people would be like, oh, so what do you think about this? I was always, like, bring him. Thank God. Always, like, I'm not going to, like, reject it.

I'm not going to, like, make her feel like she can't talk to me about it or make her feel, like, weird about it, you know what I'm saying? So I was always like this. I think I didn't understand it. Always showing us. They always got to be able to talk to you. Yeah. Before they fake somebody else to talk to,

then is old. My sister hated me, she bring boys to the house. I had a bat right there, like a real fucking name. Well, my sister, this is how I was. Like, I always scared off all of her boyfriend. Yes. But then when my daughter, I played it's different. I just sit there with the bat,

chased them home. All type of one sister, I don't think she was happy with me. Yeah. No. Rest of peace. I know my sister. I don't think my sister was happy with me because I did too much, man. We was chasing things, all type of shit.

Yo, you ever talk to my sister again, B? I'm telling you, like, right? And literally with the bat, why the dude is sitting there, she's sitting there. And I'm like, they playing happy days and shit like that. And I'm like, Sunday, Monday. Happy days. And I got the baseball bat. Like, boy, I'm going to tell you.

But the thing is, my daughter, I've been very respectful. Tuesday, Wednesday? Happy day. I've been very respectful of whatever she's. doing very supportive and it's hard sometimes every now and then when I get into it with the family I just be like look guys I'm doing some shit I never dreamed in my life that I would do like I'm being so understanding yeah like you know what I mean like as a dad you just like yo I'm really being understanding like please don't stop with me because I'm you know but it's

you know it is they say once the communication goes yeah it's so And I feel like back then was a different way we was, the world was and we was being taught. We was taught to be that way. And then now the way the world is, it's like, he's supposed to act this way. You know, be more not so judging, not so this. They switched it from this shit. Yeah. They instilled in the, they uninstilled it in the new generation.

We got to give him a round of applause for being a billboard power player. But fuck, exactly. I mean, he's doing shit. He's the biggest. We're not talking about that. That's new. But there's a new thing. Billboard Power Play.

Yeah. They recognized us. They recognized us, gave us an award. Me, my brother, Sean Barron, and Leon Thomas for our label. Easy money, man. Everything we've done this year. He's doing shit. He deserves it.

Doing shit. Tycoon scores October 17th. When is free T.C. documentary going out. That's coming out right after that. Okay. Make sure y'all check out everything he drops. It's insane. Dr. Minnery.

Cut the interview? I feel like... No, no, we're talking. Before you used to keep going on, I'm here to promote. You're cutting them off too quick. You're cutting them off. You ain't letting him promote. You over here.

I'm a dog on Dr. Phil. I'm a dog on my mutt. Leon Thomas, man. Come on. Y'all, Todd Dollar, who you work with? You possibly could, but because, like I said, you hear so many generations with your style of music. Like, right now, you just did vultures where the young kids, they're losing their sneakers jumping up and down to that shit. But at the same time, I told you, I hear Jodice, I hear Aaron Hall, I hear who you worked with that you was like, yo, like, oh, this is unbelievable.

Like, I don't believe I got the chance to work in the studio with somebody like that. Ooh, it's a gang of people I made a song with Mariah Carey before I made a song with Fat Joe before No, no, no Who else? Like a gang of

But Leon, like when it Like when it comes to now meeting Leon and working with him was like wow That was the first time I said wow In a long time because it was It just felt like me again But on a whole other level

Like, he's fucking engineering, he's producing, he's writing, he's making beats for everybody else, he's writing, writing songs for everybody else, just doing so much for everybody else. But at the same time, being incredible himself and nobody like really, oh, that shit's too soulful, it's to this, it's too that. I'm like, nah, this is it. You know what I mean? and Sean Barron agreed we started the easy money label and look we put out the first album

that had this song featuring me called Love Jones and the album was cool we were starting to get recognition but there was no real hit off of that and then you started getting the calls well baby Ty you could give him one of those club songs

or you could give him one of them da-da-da or something like that and I actually hit him with it and then like an hour later it might have been a shorter time but I called him back immediately like my nigga, no, no, no, no, fuck that. Stick to you.

You know what the fuck you're doing. You don't need to try nothing else. Just do your shit. And look, man, we got a smash record with no sequencer, all live music, live drums, live bass, live guitar, live streams, live everything. So shout out to that, man. Stick to yourself. That's all you got to do. Some of the artists you respect because we definitely have a different sound and R&B.

today than we have in the 90s. I feel like the 90s was the greatest time for R&B. Well, one of the greatest, so we're not going all the way back. It's better shit. That's just in your age bracket. But, yeah. Because I'll be looking at like

the 70s is the best R&B. Yeah, yeah, might be right. Might be temptation. I got a low rider and all that shit. So I'm always like listening to the older shit. That's like. Your dad's era. Yeah. But my point is now. Yeah.

What artists you think would even feel about R&B right now? I feel like it's about to do that again. When I went to the BMI Awards recently, they had a whole bunch of new artists performing, and everybody that performed with that motherfucker was incredible. Sounded like this time. Like young motherfuckers up there playing guitars, singing, going crazy, hitting all the crazy notes,

captivating the crowd, making everybody stand up. I'm like, oh, it's time again, you know. and that's people that care. Anybody you haven't worked with that you want to work with? I want to work with Lady Gaga. I never did a song with Lady Gaga. She wanted the grades.

She wanted the greats, right? You know, I'm a little bit off the weird shit now, you know what I'm saying? What you're saying? Her shit weird? No, I'm not saying. She's a little weird, she is definitely very, very talented.

I'm not reframing to her body. Yeah, musically crazy. Style-wise, crazy, everything crazy. You see them now, like, oh, yeah, yeah, and all that shit, like, yo, you know why, I'm a little bit off that. What you, what? He said, do that?

Artists acting with, like, and all that shit? All of that shit. Can you give us an example? What is that? Yeah, who's, what is that? I don't know. Y'all trying to jam me up. I can't say that because one of the biggest artists of today,

but I watched her perform recently, and I was just like, you know, what? I'm kind of off trying to act like all that shit. Like that was true maybe when Nikki Minaj started that but just stop trying to act crazy. Like just, just you're very talented. Your music

could speak for itself. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so some artists get caught up in that just like fashion. Like just because you dress weird don't mean you fly. Yeah. Right? I've been seeing motherfuckers now just walking, looking weird and they think they fly. It's like, no, dude, you're a fucking weirdo.

That's not a goal. You understand what I'm saying? So I just feel like just doing too much necessarily. Somebody I respect very much in R&B right now is Kay Lonnie. I feel like she could have did it in the brandy Monica era. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for real music with substance.

Kay been doing her shit for a long time and I'm happy to see her. Well, she got a number one record now, right? Or it's almost number one. It's top five, for sure. I don't want to trust no more. I'm old school, me. I feel you on that, but like you said in the beginning, you're looking for that supremacy, right?

She's finally getting that supremacy. I think her voice, her tone, that music that folded, that this, that's, that's, that's Brandy. We had Brandy and Monica. Yeah. It's for sure she, Brandy didn't remix that folded, too. That's like the Loxymal D. Yeah.

Brandy, Monica? You know, we had, oh, fucking 112. What is this? Numbers in the pocket. I don't have a reason. Like, we had some shit. And the problem I have is, and it's the same problem with young hip hop, too. It's like everybody ain't it.

He still stuck up that one-to-law. Everybody just wanted one-hit. Everybody want a one-hit. They don't want that. That real shit, the last 10, 20 years. years and all that. And that's been the problem with music lately, especially with rap music, I feel like. Yeah, somebody said it the other day.

It's like, what used to be, it was like, it was Sahai, Saha the Prince. He was talking about back in the day. He used to be the real rap niggers and he used to be the street niggers. And then now the street niggas want to be the rap niggas and shit. You mean the, and they really suck. And the street niggas, like the street niggas from the street want to rap? Yeah. Man, I've seen 50 y'all.

That don't really rap. They don't really rap. Talk off the cliff. Yeah. Fifty y' yo. real niggas bust their gun put out a single and Nick Nick

Kay Slate used to call me like, yo, get your man's in them now I'm talking about gangsters guys 20 years in chair real dudes this this stuff all of a sudden put out a single or something I'm like yo my man they used to call me like the gangster police

like they would call me and be like yo talk to them they don't want to lose the whole legacy like imagine the scariest dude and yonkers all of a sudden 54 years old he wanted to drop a song. Bro, you should have did that shit at 20.

No, no, no, no. No, no. This man said, Niam, I think it was Akamist said, yo, there is no age limit. True, when you've been doing it a while. Right.

Don't come brand new 54. Think a nigga is going to be playing your shit. They're not playing your shit. Don't do that. Oh, God, heaven. It's not the profession for you. Your time has passed.

You can't enter this shit old. No. Not 50 years old and all. I'm like, yo, you know what I made you? I swear to call my phone with ring, rest and peace. What is the latest age you can enter? You can't do it. You can't do it.

Like for me, for me, right? You started. My shit didn't boom until I was 27. That's cool. That's a great age. It's a lot of niggas that's like that. I don't care. I think, anyway.

Nah, as something happens, I think two chains. Jay Zee, two chains, Rick Laws. He's got one of the two changes. But he started early. He just came back and popped. Ross, I watched Rick Ross walking around the clubs for 10 years straight. I used to see Boston.

Get it right. You understand what I'm saying? But I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is, it's two different things we're talking about. You know, you're not being excited when you said street niggas want to rap. My thing is, all right, a 22, 24, 25, 31-year-old streetnigger, do not come with OG Bobby Wantson. Wantsy.

Bobby one. Don't come with a nigger, OG Bobby Johnson. Don't do it. Casey used to call me, be like, yo, Joe, the guard sucks and such from Queens. Got to talk to your men's, Joe. Such and Justin Brooklyn, these 50-year-old guys trying to act like them.

Who is going to buy your music? Who is going to support that music? Please stop being delugee. It's one thing if you are, oh, gee, you mob, deep, you fat, you're jaded, kiss, you dish, this, this, you've been doing this or ever. You drop a project. We actually appreciate that. Yeah. Right?

Every other junior could do it. They don't stop at a certain age. We could do it. Stick, Rick, dropped the album. I'm buying. Everybody I'm buying. But don't come brand new. 62.

Nah. And they do it. The problem is I'm bringing it to attention because they do it. They come out and they be like, you know. Shadows somebody's dream. I don't give. Do you realize that, dog? Another thing is, if you're sleeping on your girlfriend's couch.

That don't mean you can't make a hit. You got four kids. She's working. You can't make a hit. She got four kids. She's working. You're sleeping on your girl's couch. You got four kids.

She's working every day. You're playing two-k. You got four kids. Bro, this is what I'm trying to tell you. These guys are. are telling these girls, they're rappers. They're telling them they rappers. They don't have a show.

Look, if you don't have somebody downloading your shit besides your family and friends, if you don't have a show, if no one even knows you exist but yourself and your crew, you, my friend, are not a rapper. You are not a success. This is not your profession.

Seek a job. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. Get a job. Do something because. The girl know by now. There's some ladies here. Would you know if the guy's 42 sleeping on your couch playing 2K talking about?

He's some sort of rapper. You know if I'm not, he's full of shit, right? You might love him because you love him, but he's not for real. It's something wrong with the late. Same thing with the 30-year-old models. They ain't ever been on no cover. Lincoln a bite. Yeah, but they might be bad women.

You know, they might be bad women. I disagree with that. They might be bad. You might be a bad, but she ain't no matter. a year and a half. Let the head drop down to her ass. Listen, let me tell you something. I disagree with that one.

You could be any kind of bottle. The guy on the couch that doesn't have a job who's using the fact that he's some type of rapper because he snuck in the studio and cut a demo, you're not really a rapper. I also have a problem. Dan, this turned into what's your problem, fat Joe? My problem is,

Everybody who even shoots or gets killed on the news, somehow they're a rapper. Rapper Johnny Z. Oh, got it. Shot the place. This, like, yo, bro, where did he rap? It's no longer.

Your man, Jay Cole put it in the verse. He was like, yo, every time I little buddy rap, I listen to his shit after he got killed on the do. Like, yo, bro. Like, what is the quality? Nothing. Everything, man, I don't know what to tell you, man. Everything is like, You don't have to be qualified no more.

It used to be you had to get respect. You know, somebody came to you and said, yo, Todd Dollar, you're nice. And then you started right with the big boys. You can just upload your own music and celebrate your own life. I'm looking. It's dumbed down for sure. You want to be a singer?

A little bit. I wanted to be a singer. If I could have traded my rap career to be like Newton, Van Jaws. No, he was a rap. What would have been your R&B name? It wouldn't have been no Joey Kirk. You, listen, I'd have been on some bullshit, though.

I'd have been given the whole audience, roses and shit, all type of shit. Like, I'd have been on some bull. I mean, you know, singing to me is just different. I guess rap is rap. But to be singing, to me, is more beautiful. You know, whether it's in English or Spanish. Spanish, they got salsa music, one of the most beautiful music's in the world. You know what I'm saying?

So he's the same thing with English. Like, man, I love that shit. Tycoon, man, 1017, free T.C. Slightly after that. Let's make some noise for our brother, Todd Dollar, son. Appreciate you, brother. We love you. Don't down.

Let's toast it up. You thought you could have said that one here? This that line. Your smile. That's my heart. Your body. This ain't that. That ain't this.

It's cracking kiss. It's another one, baby. Dollarstein. Yes, Dallasine. Dallasine. Hold up. One thing I got to ask, I know we rap, but your relationship with hitmaker. Yeah.

Tell us a little something about that because, I mean, I feel like, yo, he could get Todd Dollar. He could wake you up in your sleep. Like, how did that relationship become so tight between you and him? It took a long time because he's my Eskimo brother. It took a long time to start because I used to not fuck with him at first because that nigga was hitting one of my bitches. Oh, that's why that's why that means?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like y'all know the same young ladies? Yeah, yeah. But then once I grew up and got mature, I realized that especially in this industry, that happened so much, you know what I'm saying? Your buddy! Right.

I mean, I have a place we go. And then it was just like, damn, nigga, if we would have been working since back then, we would have so many hits, you feel me? That nigga is, like, talented. He really, like, knows how to get to the hits. So we work, we work all the time. Every time I stop in Miami, I'm putting up on him.

Yeah, man, I had to ask you that, because that's my go-to for Todd Dollar. With Todd Dollar, he disappears sometimes, guy. I can't believe a lot of money. He got 12 people with you. I ain't know if that 12 people number to get it touches you. I got a court hitman.

Himaking a man ain't calling me back, man. He's going to worry. He told me he might be sleeping, Joe. Don't worry. I'll go get him. I'm going to find him. But shout out to the hitmaker. We need him on the show.

He just called me. He wanted to come next week. Yo, Jada, who are you talking to? Like, did you talk to me? He told you. Yo, who do you think I, who do you think you're talking to? Yo, this morning. I can't speak to him.

This morning, I put on the T. And I see Alan Navison, Bubba Chuck all over. He's promoting some book. I call Jada. I said, Yo, Jay, and Chuck up in New York. I'm watching. Yeah, got off the phone with him last night. He called me already.

Yo, what the fuck? Why he ain't on the couch? Like, yo, what are you? The same reason he ain't on the couch when you found out he was in New York. He's ducking us. He's ducking us. But, you know, we need hitmaker on there. saying, but we appreciate you, Todd Dalla.

I personally appreciate you for everything you've done for me. You really, really help me out. So. FTC, man. FTC. Free TC. Free TC.

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