Joe and Jada - Usher talks LEGENDARY 'Raymond & Brown' Tour with Chris Brown, favorite R&B groups & CLASSIC stories coming up w/ Fat Joe & Jada

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are invited backstage for an exclusive interview with Usher ahead of his headlining show at MetLife Stadium for his once-in-a-lifetime 'Raymond & Brown' Tour with Chris Brown.... The trio of legends tell stories from their decades of friendship and musical collaborations, from Jada hopping on Usher's classic 'Confessions' album to Joe and Usher hitting the Miami clubs with Rico Love. Usher also breaks down his brotherhood with Chris Brown, his all-time favorite R&B groups, and invites record executive Mark Pitts on for a wide-ranging conversation about the music industry and the state of R&B. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. Every week, the news gets worse. The world gets crazier. Yamanika is here to tell whoever's responsible, you're the problem. Do you know I just found out who Sidney Sweeney was? If he got a bunch of women, then I should have a bunch of men. Do better or do less, so I don't have to do so much. I'm Yamanika, and I'm out.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Listen to You're the Problem with Yamanika on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. We just kept talking. I just kept watching and build. I kept building. We just kept going. I was like, yo, there's no better time right now than right. in this moment.
Starting point is 00:02:30 This right here is going. It's going to fuck you up, bro. It's going to make everybody understand how important brotherhood is. What y'all doing here? It's brotherhood. What we're doing, me and Chris, that's brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It ain't even a competition. That's not what this is. This is a celebration, bro. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Joe Cracked at Dawn. You know who it is, your boy, Jada. You know what it is the Joe and Jada show?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Every show legendary, every show iconic. When you think of today's guests, you think of consistency at his highest level. You think of somebody who came in the game young, found his sound, and then built the whole legacy of hard work, reinvention, and timeless records. From my way, 8701, from Confession. to the world stage. He gave R&B records that became moments in people's lives. He influenced the way artists perform, the way they move,
Starting point is 00:03:55 the way they make a full show feel like an event. And today, before he steps out here on that MetLife Stadium stage for a major night alongside our brother, Chris Brown, and Mario we got the legend in the A town zone Ladies and gentlemen Make some noise for our brother
Starting point is 00:04:18 Usher How you feeling I feel great I was just giving me boutteg I'm not We got the Botega couch In the dressing room That's a definitely
Starting point is 00:04:36 You know It's just different over here Yeah. Great. Amazing. Yeah, we have to make it feel like we're home. You know what I'm saying? No idea out here is to, you know, celebrate history.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And that's what you're talking about, man. Like, I feel happy to be able to be on y'all show, man, and just, you know, celebrate shots of y'all my brothers, you know what I'm saying? Before anything, y'all icons yourselves. Appreciate you know what I'm saying? And to be fortunate to have, you know, have the opportunity to share the stage with you, Joe in Puerto Rico and then share classic, you know, smash with you, throw back. I'm really happy to be able to.
Starting point is 00:05:08 to come to the MetLife stadium and be able to shut it down. You know what I'm saying? You know, let me tell you. It ain't happened yet, but you know what's going to happen. You know what's going to happen. You know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You blew up. I didn't give fuck. Benjamin's all that. I was always like, all right. Jade is like, you know, he's not a super duper star yet. And when Arsha tapped you, it was, oh, I want to know, you back.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And I heard you, I said, holy shit, this guy's a superstar. Usher tapped them on the shoulder. What the fuck was that like when, and the record? The record is a classic song forever. Yeah, man. I'm going to tell you, it felt like, for one, when you get the, when you get the call from us,
Starting point is 00:05:58 you already know what that is. To be on that project, Josh Blaze, just me. Yeah. And I'm like, yo. This is my brother. Us yours, this like a hove or nodgy.
Starting point is 00:06:12 The beat was so, I'm like, how the hell did they make? That was the greatest later. Yeah, the marriage. Amen. That beat was so, it was so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You want to get, by the way, the people who write music out there, uh, who the beat is almost like 99.9% when that shit come on, it's almost like you don't even got to rap. I love the song.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah, it, wrote it for me. Everything in that album was purposeful. Everything, the conversations. You know what I'm saying? God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if you know this.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I've said this to you before. I don't know if you remember this. But originally, I went to Just Blaze because I wanted a record with Jay. And I was like, yo, I really think that this could be the one. But that's not how God would see it, bro. And when me and Rico got together, me, Rico, Brian Love it,
Starting point is 00:07:07 Just Blaze put it all together. It was like, yo, this is the only person who could do this. I mean, no offense, man. No, no. But it was like... So I just said, it was like the ultimate alley-you
Starting point is 00:07:19 because it's like you created a ill hit that was almost like... You know, when you hear records? Like, I used to hear records and be like, oh, that's a flow rider. Yeah, not. That's a Nelly record.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We had to have a Lally record. You'd be like, yo, Nelly will buy that shit or Cardi B, because you know, I'm Latino, so they throw me all up. They try to play me them bitch. I'd be like, yo, Cardi B, fuck this shit. Like, what we're saying is
Starting point is 00:07:47 when I heard that. I was Jay to kiss on my album. I shut that shit. Everything shut down. Hold off the us shit. Put my album a hole to this. I get this. I had a moment.
Starting point is 00:08:02 My moment like that was L.O. Cool J's. I shot you. I couldn't believe I rap with Prodigy. Foxy Brown must have really, that's the first time she ever made. She's the first song she ever did. You got Keith Larry. That's a hell of a question. You got L.L.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And the man is the biggest in the world. So when they said, yo, Joe, we want you. I don't have come with that. Who the fuck you think you're talking to? I paid dudes. That's sprayed crews. Because I don't motherfuckers going to be like, why is that guy? I was such a, you know, I don't know of you two ever had that.
Starting point is 00:08:35 You came out with Puffin'nam. a banged basing on nigger, I was really selling three records. Like, you know, I was like at crackhead records. That was crack. Like, I really came from the struggle.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like, here's it like first week sales. Ten records. Don't worry. Hey, keep your shit. Common Soul 20. Don't worry. You could ride this one out. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I was at the crackhead. You got in the Bronx. It was crazy. I remember when Puff used to have us all running together. You know what I was much, much younger. You know what I'm saying? And then, you know what I'm saying? Like being able to be out there with Peckos.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It was like we was family no matter where you were. Yeah, I was from Atlanta from the South. And we hadn't, you know, naturally made that hip-hop connection yet. Our cast was still baking. You know what I'm saying? I was here young with Puff. I remember the first time we ran into each other, bro, it was like in the palladium or some shit like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:33 It was like big was on stage. We was doing party and bullshit. That's true. that whole scene when everybody brushed the stage. I want to say that that night's the first night I had seen Jay-Z before, but that night's the first night, me and Jay-Z ever said hi to each other.
Starting point is 00:09:49 He was like, yeah, because this first album, he sampled, bring it on if you think you can hang. So he was like, yo, I just sample your shit. It's coming. Like, I didn't even know what the fuck sample was or any of that shit, but, you know, he told me that and I was like, all right, yo.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And then, but that night was a historical, Night at that palladium. I mean, many, many nights was historical, bro. Like, the fact that Howard Homecoming, we used to always be around each other, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Like, we just managed to always continue to bro. The Locks got an ill story. Kay had a broke leg. I had a book, and I must have a book. I must have did Howard did in one of them.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Then I had a party out. Kay had a broke. I remember we had to get him a couch in the section. What? We was young. He'd come in. we had man's shots
Starting point is 00:10:37 he dapp us up he throwed about one and two of them back he looked over there he got no shirt on he's on the thing he got the whole club going I said yo that was the good old days
Starting point is 00:10:50 though Hirsch kid right there what's up threw two shots back I seen him over there dancing you know I'm skipping maybe 20 years
Starting point is 00:10:57 but I don't know if you've seen this clip I had said it went viral that when you was in the studio with Rico Love I was hanging out with you Yeah. And if you let Fat Joe tell a story, I'll say I convince you to do some of those songs.
Starting point is 00:11:10 We went to the spot. We in Miami. Nah, if you let Fat Joe, you might want to throw a flag to this, digger. I might have convinced Usher to take some of those songs. You know, Kelly Rowland's joint Rico, I almost forced her to take. She was like, I don't know. I was like, do it. To this day when Kelly seen me, she gave me the longest hug you ever seen in your life.
Starting point is 00:11:31 She's like, thank you for convincing me to do. that song. You know, Rico Love, he had the battery, you know, he had the mouth of the south before the people knew, you know, in the studio with him like, yo, I'm telling you, that shit is crazy. Your answer, that shit crazy. That night, he kept telling me, yo, take me to the club. And the only club open was stugged out entertainment. So I don't never want to take you somewhere where some shit might happen, right? But he was like, it's way before the wife, he was like, yo, I got to take me to the mommy's take. And he was specific. So the mommy's, he really had to go in the trenches. Like, I'm like, tonight's Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So we go. I said, fuck it. We go love to look like, he wanted to cry. He's like, damn, nigga taking up. He knew where you was going. And I go in there. And I look at the man. And the man levitating them one.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And, yo, listen, because the thing about celebrities, listen, guys, the way to become cool with a celebrity is you got to act, you know, respectful, but you almost got to act like you've been here before. I look, this thing is levitating in one spot. The whole club is looking at them. And I got to act like I saw. Who is he done? No, I got to act like I seen somebody else do it.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But then I look back again and he's like, and I'm like, is this motherfucker floating? It's not funny. That's where I was like, mama, there goes that man. Yo! It's crazy. You remember that shit, huh? That's crazy. You still get nervous after all these years because you're doing a lot of hard working up there.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Singing, choreography, there's theater. It's a bunch of things combined. Do you ever get a little bit of butterflies? Nah, man, it's legacy time, bro. You know, I feel fortunate, man. You know what I'm saying? And just be able to say that, you know, I've been doing this long enough to, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:42 be the youngest of the oldest and the, I betty it the oldest of the youngest and the youngest of the oldest. You know what I'm saying? As a legacy artist, to be able to continue to still keep it together because this whole tour right is about bringing bookends together. You know what I'm saying? We see what Chris has been doing. We see what I've done.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And we've done records together, but being able to get on stage, we're in our comfort zone. He's been swung for the past, you know, three years plus I've been swore for the past three years. We've been talking about it for so long. If anything, it's anticipation. I'm like, I'm feeling the nerves because I'm ready to get out to tell shit up. You know what I'm saying? Every single night we go in, we say a prayer before we hit the stage, man, give thanks. And go out there and we allow the audience to see what they came, to see an incredible show.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So now, if anything, I'm in, I'm deep in anticipation, bro. Funny thing. Hold on, let me tell you something about Rico. Because, you know, I actually put the battery in Rico's back. Not many people go all the way back to the beginning of Rico's career. But I signed Rico as an artist and was like, yo, I really do. I love you so much. I think you need to be a writer, bro. Like, for real, like, not to say that you're not an incredible artist,
Starting point is 00:14:53 but you have a way of being able to articulate what you're trying to say in a way that people can get it in. and they feel it. And I took him on the road with me, man. We went on tour for confessions. Matter of fact, after he gave me the record, I was like, yo, Rico, I want you to come out and you do your verse, because he did a verse for the song as well.
Starting point is 00:15:13 But, man, I'll tell you a funny story, we were in Milwaukee, right? And Rico, he don't know no better, you know what I'm saying? He just, you know, in the BIP hanging out with us, you know what I'm saying? And it's mad chicks in there, right? So all of a sudden, bottles just start coming out of nowhere. I'm like, who can out of these parts? I look over at Rico, Rico passing bottles to the chicks.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'm like, hey, bro, what is you doing? He was like, yo, I'm just doing what they do in the videos. I thought everybody take a bottle. I'm like, bro. No, Rico. You know, the moments. We went through like 40 bottles, bro. Yo, you know, the moments.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And we in Milwaukee. Let me tell you some, the moments that God has let us have in life, like these big moments in life. I think I was selling Danny earlier before you came. I was selling his stylist. I was like, yo, Danny, like, you know, I had the number one song,
Starting point is 00:16:10 then at the worst sales ever created, seeing people change on me everything, and then knocked the number one song out, and seen them all come back and then fell off again. And then the number one, I mean, number one. Yesterday's price is not today's price. So my shit is I've been able to see so many different moments and be able to appreciate.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah, man. Sometimes when you win, win, win, win, win, some people don't even know who their friends is or who's really going to be with them or whatever the case. Maybe if all you're doing is winning and you're the king, and we just like, yo, yo, yo, yo, you really wouldn't know. You got to see. Real talk, if you want to fuck on me when I was down, you ain't fucking me.
Starting point is 00:16:55 We ain't fucking bottom up. That's a fact. I mean, I understand. We make new acquaintance, but no new friends. You know what I'm saying? And the reality is to be able to know that there's always people behind champion. You know what I'm saying? Like Peckis was like, yo, no, no, you need to know, Joe.
Starting point is 00:17:11 You need to know this, this is your family. You know what I'm saying? When I'm not there, they got you. I bet, you know what I'm saying? But to be able to understand that you always have people support you, like Gooch, for instance. You know what I'm saying? Nobody understands how incredible Gooch is.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Nobody understands what Mark Pitts is. If we didn't have Mark Pitts, we wouldn't have big, bro. If we didn't have Mark Pitts, we wouldn't have all the, like, incredible artists. We didn't have Mark Pitts, we wouldn't have this tour. Chris Brown wouldn't be here. Confessions wouldn't be here. That's ill. That's a fact, too.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, man. But you want to know what's crazy is, right? Because we got too much history, so we all over the place. But when I opened Instagram and said, us and Chris, I thought that was fixed. shit the fight, right? It was too good to be true. It was, what do you want? Like, it's nothing else bigger than that.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's the pinning me of the pit. That's the top of it. What do you want me to do? There's been the argument on every stoop in front of the building that there's. I mean, we're keeping it. We're keeping it beautiful. But what I'm saying is, it's always been, like, who's the best? Biggie JZ or Nas.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's always been Usher or Chris. And for both of y'all to put the, Egos aside and say, y'all, let's give them what they want. Because the bread is... No, no, it ain't. The bread's too monstrous. I don't even want to...
Starting point is 00:18:37 I might kill myself if I thought that. The bread, y'all, niggins. Brothers from our coaches to get together and do it, is it... And when they do it, and you do it like you did it for your versus, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yo. Blaze, bro. Come on, man. I had a little bit... You had a little A new York Stan Lusha and Chris Breezy that night
Starting point is 00:19:02 mixed with some other people You want to know what's crazy, Asha because once again Today I came in a talkative mood
Starting point is 00:19:10 But I was trying to tell Today? Today I really came in I'm like Rich only today I feel like I got hot That whatever you smoke weed feel like
Starting point is 00:19:21 I feel like I got it For a few visions This shit is like Too legend, right? So, but I tell her that, you know, I'm really, really, really, really, really. There's a problem for people what I'm about to say, right? Because it's not like blasphemy or whatever, but it's a real problem for the greatest hip-hop historian to doubt that I'm not from the block that created hip-hop. Do you know how hard it is for someone that humanly tell you that I'm from the block with Grandmaster Flash, lives across the street,
Starting point is 00:19:56 Melly Mell here, Mr. Ness here, the first Latino MC around the corner, first female MC on the basketball court playing back. I'm from the... No. Ruby D. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Ruby D's the first... He's two blocks to me. They're from my block. I'm just five years old and I'm watching all this shit. I watched Melly Mell leave my plot and turned on the Grammys that night and seen him come out and go, Shaka Khan.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Shaka Khan. Guess where he was at the next day? On my block. It was unfucking real, it's what I'm trying to explain to you. So what I'm saying is with being all that said, right, just as a fan, that night that dipset Knox, that was, that gave me the feeling I had never felt in my life. I had heard it, but I was only five years old. I couldn't go in the block party with Busy B Battle Coomodee.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I know, my brother came with the cassette every night. You reminded everybody in the world where hip hop really is, bro. Appreciate that, bro. I'm saying. Yeah. It was real, bro. Yeah. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It was a good night. That was a good film. He blew up so much. Yesterday's price, not today's price. He was in a ATL the next day. He was on a private plane, Kanye West. They had that shit in arena. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:22 He was in the A, Kanye. You went right from Versus. You got a call. How does that work? Do you get a phone call from Kanye and say, yo, come down to Atlanta? I got a phone call from anybody. Yeah, you reminded.
Starting point is 00:21:35 The phone was going crazy. That phone, that roller decks that day was nuts. Phone was going crazy. But yeah, no, you ain't called. It was crazy because mad people called and said, five people called and said four people's going to call you. Then Kanye's going to call you. I'm like, God, damn.
Starting point is 00:21:54 How many, what did he do? And then I finally spoke to, yeah, he's like, yo, come to Atlanta. I need you to get on Donda. He sent a bird, huh? 11 o'clock, Natina. Yeah, right. Send the tail number.
Starting point is 00:22:07 We was out. Tina sent the bird, huh? Natina get money from me, man. She ain't giving me no fucking private place and nothing like that. She's like, brother, I need some bread. She ain't giving me no private money. She ain't given me one either. You ain't paid for that.
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Starting point is 00:27:09 your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When was that moment for you where you felt like I'm a superstar? What thing you got to put dupor? No, no, no, no, no. No. No. No. No, no, but there's a difference when you say to yourself, I made it as a, that's what I tell you. When I'm not going to lie to you. I heard you Mariah Carey. I heard you with everybody.
Starting point is 00:27:54 When you did that shit with Usher, he's considered a superstar. They called you for the fucking Usher album to wrap on. It's not, all right, what I'm saying, when's the moment that you said to yourself? Was it early? Was it mid-career? What was it when you said? It was early, man. It was early.
Starting point is 00:28:15 It was early. You know, I had really humble beginnings. My first album didn't do what everybody expected it, too. But you know what I kept pushing and was trying to figure it out. I started, you know, really going back to my roots. And I always, you know, really wanted to work with Jemain Dupree. When you connected, it was like, oh, this is it. Hello?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Kwan Prath, KP, you know what I'm saying? And me, L.A., we locked in with J.D., and it became real, man. Like, you make me want to was when it all completely changed. It was like, oh, yeah, it's real. You make me want to be in front of them with. Women ain't really, really love that much. You tell her, you make me want to lead the one with.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Start a new. Sing your shit. Sing it. There you go. So what you do? I mean, you know, there was a, there was, who, who was it? R&B early 90s that was singing, damn.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I think it was Donnell Jones, one of them that had a song where he's telling the, I'm sorry, but I gotta go. I love my baby girl, a message. What? I'll be coming home. I'd rather be. You couldn't enjoy that as a man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Just seeing it. I told my baby then I gotta go. I'd rather do that that to hurt you. I was like, oh, I sing that shit. Nigger, Place was flying in that crib. Right. You couldn't even, it's certain shit you can't even sing back. Like, like, you're like, yo, you know the song.
Starting point is 00:29:43 right? Yeah, I know the story. That shit, it's like some other, like, girl don't want to hear that. They don't want to hear that. They do not want to hear you out of here. Like, you know, that shit. We had classic moments, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:55 like Carl Thomas was another one of them. Wish I never met her. That was another one of those joints. Duh, done, done, wish I never met her. That was crazy. You know what's my Carl Thomas moment? Well, I got two.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Two? Oh, I got two. But one, he had nothing to do with it. I walk into Rucker. is when everybody's wearing 10x white T's and that fucking Summer Rang came on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Summer rain, the niggins. Shout out to DJ Rogers, you know what I'm saying? Fucking Linnon. Summer Rain. Did Harlem? You're talking about Harlem? Them niggas got out there in the summer rain.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Whits me to sleep and wakes me up again. Fogs, nigga with dudewags. That's when I said, oh, my God. This is our boy. Yeah. That's crazy. We had a bunch of moments.
Starting point is 00:30:46 We're lucky. The other one was, I don't know if we talked too much, I used to throw this pool party in Miami all the time. And R. Kelly, you know, he just pulled up on me and performed for like two hours straight for no reason. Like, you know, pulled a bus up. I'm talking about Kells. He got the kettle.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Listen, listen. Kells pulled up for no reason, came to the party, and started going ham. I don't know if you was there. Everybody was in the camera on the depths of. Everybody, the A. Allen novice, and it was Memorial Weekend. Call Thomas, he was hot. These records we talked about.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah. He got on the stage and tried to grab Kells Mike. You never grab a king's mic. You never grab a king's mic when he's at work. Who do you think you are? In the middle of the party in front of 5,000 people. who can't wear the Miss Wrights in front of every time. And then Fiesta, early in the morning,
Starting point is 00:31:50 when if I confide, da-da-da-da-da. I'm looking at Carl Thomas. Like, oh, my God, because they brought from Chicago? It was crazy. I was like a little bamboo. A little man. Yo, but Carl Thomas was piping. Hot.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like, he did there summer rain in there. He'd got it all. He tried to get it off. Kelston's like, not the night. It could have been, yeah, I couldn't. No, it was no beef. It was no beef.
Starting point is 00:32:17 It's like a shock-a-com moment, she'd tell. Because I hear Shocker Khan definitely the toe with some other singers. She was like a show. She'll like, I love. She'll with E-P-M-D. Shock-a-Con? Mm. You know, we all, we all crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's why we can't believe that you guys got a tour together because it's like all artists got a little twist of crazy to him. Yeah. You need that shit. Yeah. That's what making fun. That's the part we do documentaries about later. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:49 But the idea of you said it, like to be able to do something that no one has ever done at their peak. You know what I'm saying? Like, imagine if Michael and Prince would have been able to do something together. You know what I'm saying? This is the closest we going to get to that. I mean, the closest we probably ever would have got to it is with new addition with Bobby Brown and that,
Starting point is 00:33:11 because they were such a force themselves. You know what I'm saying? But this This is something else, man. This is another level. I think one day we did best groups and we said new edition. I'm just saying at their peak. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Like when we were younger, you know what I'm saying? Like they went on to put together. Who's your favorite groups in R&B history? R&B history. I fuck with H-Town. I fuck with Jodacy. You know, boys to men. Of course, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:40 1-12. Got to get 1-12. back together, man. You know what I'm saying? They need to put the band back. Yeah, man. Yeah. Well, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Intro, you know what I mean? My favorite artists don't get along and the groups break up. That sucks. It sucks for the fan. You know what I'm saying? I mean, and that's what this was. Well, I'm going to give you one you best
Starting point is 00:34:03 and they write under your nose is a jagged hay. Jacketons, of course. I mean, you stop me. You know what I don't know. We was going to stop them. He was like, he was done. All right. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Keep going. Nah, but Jagged Edge is the truth. And then obviously, you know, you got Destiny's child. Because it goes females as well. Yeah. You know what I mean? See, people get mad at me when I put people in different levels. There's no conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Look, we're not deluge, you know. It's our shit. It's Chris Brown. There is no other conversation to be had. So sometimes when you say Destiny Child, They're not in this category. Like these girls isn't another, it's destiny. Child.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But we're not. No, no, no, no, no, but you're right. But what I'm saying to you is just sometimes you might mention somebody that's like an asteroid. All right, yeah. All right, what female group comes after destiny? Not after, but who you dare say now? Nah, that ain't fair.
Starting point is 00:35:10 That ain't fair, right? That's what I'm trying to say. You can't really, yeah. You can't really follow it. Yes. This is what I'm saying. All the DJs got mad at me because I was like, yo, DJ Gallet. I mean, he's a DJ, but hey, he's coming to my birthday party.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I ain't asked him a DJ. He's just too big now. Like, how the fuck? I told him, yo, we get the Cuban cigar maker to make you cigars while you stick. Like, come on, man. It's just different conversations. Levels to this shit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I'm saying, crack, there's levels to this shit. You see this? No, this is it. It's fucking to tell you. Let me and me and kids don't be having this unless we're special guests. That's it. Nah, you ain't making no white curtains. Nah, never got.
Starting point is 00:35:54 T-cadles and shit. They just made, you don't do that. Never. Y'all kiss. Under the end you're with me by a rusty staircase. Like Eddie came, we'd be in the staircase. Like one day. It was a little affidment.
Starting point is 00:36:09 One day he didn't even know. Ignorance is bliss. But one day, they robbing every rapper in Chicago. And they set out an APB. And I mean, a real APB. Like, yo, Joe, very careful. They robbing everybody out here. And nobody is, like, exonerated from the shit.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Like, you know, everybody, you want into these bundaleros, these pestileros, oh, you better come right because they're gonna, they're gonna do it. Yeah. More to the stories, I wear more jury
Starting point is 00:36:48 than I ever wore in my life, right? The shit is the theater in the hood of Chicago. I mean, pimps with no legs on wheelchairs with the fucking
Starting point is 00:36:59 pinstite suit. Y'all I'm telling you. This shit was out of control. Every gang in Chicago, this shit was like, it was, the moral to the story is the first second I walk in there
Starting point is 00:37:14 I see the guy who's robbing everybody in Chicago you know I got my space I'm watching the guy who's saying don't come the fucking
Starting point is 00:37:23 you know I know right so I see him the first second of man look at me yo what's up crack what's up big homie nothing but love for you I was like I have my brother it's all love
Starting point is 00:37:35 he left but it was so much tension at the end of the end end of the day, they start the biggest riot in that crowd. Right. And the person who booked me was rest and peace, Anthony Mason from Chicago. I don't know if that's the same person who booked you. He booked me, Anthony Mason from the New York Knicks, booked me.
Starting point is 00:37:58 He grabbed my shoulders and pushed me out that door so fast. Yeah. Go, Joe. Go. Like, he's from there or whatever. He knew this shit was. like Hannibal Barrett, this shit turned into,
Starting point is 00:38:13 you know, this shit was, and my DJ LV was in front of me with the equipment with the, with the wires. Man,
Starting point is 00:38:22 there's some shit happened right now the cameramen's running out with the wires before he's running with the equipment with the wires in it.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And I stopped. And I look at him and I say, Y'LV, we got to plug this shit back up. LV. looked at me, what? I said,
Starting point is 00:38:42 if we leave now, we're going forever be pussy in Chicago. And when he pressed play, it was lean back. The whole place stopped fighting. They forgot they were fighting. And they all just lean back with number one. And the reason I say the story is
Starting point is 00:38:57 because you was in there that night. I don't know if you knew the craziness that was going on in that motherfucker. Like, you ever been in a spot that just went upside down? Yeah. Yeah, plenty. Plenty.
Starting point is 00:39:13 We used to run together. You know what I was in New York around us, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, you know what's crazy is? I got another fun story. I know I got an interview you, but I tell you, I go today for some reason I wake up and I play, because it's very similar because I met you like 14 years old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And I know Tiana Tell her since she's 14 years old And I ain't gonna lie to you A little sister all the time Like I know her from coming with the little bike And I'm always y'all And she calls me unk Because I'm better at 14
Starting point is 00:39:54 And you know, it's like y'all This is my niece I do that Today that fucking record came on that Oh, you're gonna love me To be a minute sometimes I said My God
Starting point is 00:40:10 Have I been sleeping On my little sister What the fuck? You know It's one of them days It's song Catch You Yeah And I played it back
Starting point is 00:40:21 Like 10 times I got the sound system And out of nowhere The reggae tone Come on Hoosh could you do I said What the fuck
Starting point is 00:40:30 I run out the room Y'all I was in a super fucking What? My brother-in-law just came from Columbia. The nigga blasted the reggae tone over the music session. The moment I was having, like, embracing the song, he comes, V-R-R-R-H-H-H-H-I'm like, yo, this nigga here, but I love him and all that, but that's the moment. What's the record that does that for you, that when you hear it, you know, it could be yours or anybody else
Starting point is 00:40:58 is that when you hear it just put you in a zone where you like, you don't want to turn the shit off. I don't want to turn it off, bro. It depends on how you feel. It all depends on where you are, bro. Like, you know, how they're going to react when I drop New York in here? Boom, boom, bum, bum, bum, boom. I got a hundred, about a hundred clips.
Starting point is 00:41:25 They got out from New York. That's going to be crazy. I don't know about you, but that's, I don't know about you, that's the one song that's dead. So, you know, I gave that to Jaru, by the way, right? He gave me what's love. When Punta had just passed away,
Starting point is 00:41:44 and I never forgot it. I was so loyal. And that he's in the middle of all that smoke. And Coulin Jays, like, yo, let's give it to Jaru. I said, let's give it a job. I got Jada on that song. But that's why the beef with 50 Set happened
Starting point is 00:41:59 because of that. That record Eva made you so, happy, boy, it made you so mad. It did even, or because when we shot this video, it was like the Piper. People were coming
Starting point is 00:42:13 out, we did it in the real blocks of New York where people was coming out, the fire escapes, the back, people were cats in their hands. No, no, I mean, like, the real neighborhood, the old lady was like, yo, that record,
Starting point is 00:42:29 I ain't going to lie, the only New York record that ever touched. that record was the Jay-Z Alicia Keys. Yeah. That's another record that gives me like... I love that. That's one of the records for me when I heard... Were you anywhere in the world
Starting point is 00:42:43 and you feel like home? What's an ATL record that make you feel like you really in the ATL? Like, if you could be in Dubai, wherever, and they play this shit, you write at that. Yeah. Which, yeah? Oh, no, yeah, it does that for this. You know what, I'm just saying? I'm a classic, though.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So, like, I come from the era of, like, New York that was the tunnel, you know what I'm saying? And like, I'm stuck, you know what I'm saying? Trying to find that feeling. The closest we get to it is D-Nice, you know what I'm saying? D-Nice? Yeah, and on occasion we get some over here and there. But like when they used to drop like, no stop in, no, duh, man.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It used to be crazy. No stop, them feelings, it's like just the classic nature of like R&B. That turns in the break feel good when you had them kind of something. Yeah, everything else. I used to watch Larry Holmes, I was a kid walking to, here's so many things that held you down. Yeah. They finally coming down.
Starting point is 00:43:44 They don't know you got a long way to go. They found the white head crazy. Yeah, bro. He don't know. Yeah. Yo, that's it. Yeah. Y'all, they used to come up in that.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So, or what was the name? The point of the classic joint. Family that went. He's a joint there's like barbecue music Frankie Beverly Frankie Beverly don't stop He's unmatched
Starting point is 00:44:09 Da da da da Da da da da da That's the whole family That's the whole family He got the joints That you love what you feel That da da What you do
Starting point is 00:44:24 To me Well that's what my birthday party gonna be like That's all It's gonna be like I'm doing the biggest, most sexiest, most... You see how this place now? That's intentional, right?
Starting point is 00:44:39 How about my party's outdoor? And it's going to smell like this. Outdoor. AC outdoor. AC outdoor. And then they're going to... Whoa. You walk in and you're like,
Starting point is 00:44:53 do, do, do, do, do, no. It's the only requirement for my birthday parties. Everybody got to have fun. You cannot. sit there. It's one of my best friends on the earth who came. What number is this for you, Doug? Oh, I'm 56. Yeah, okay. And I enjoy
Starting point is 00:45:09 every day. I feel like, wow. And, you know, of course. I mean to say, damn, my bad. I'm not, I said, damn. I didn't mean to say. I was like, damn. I'm a flyist 56-year-old. They haven't ever seen in the Himalayans of the of the Himalayans. They go very, they do these
Starting point is 00:45:29 best dressed list and they put me 30 year and they just and I'm like yo I've been killing these niggis for so long you know how we said Destiny's child your man no you know how we say Destiny's child Fat Joe might be in his own category I go to the fucking true indeed God true indeed
Starting point is 00:45:50 Louis Vuitton down nigga like they'll never catch the beard wrong nothing I've been giving these diggers hell in jail You know, like you said, you and Breezy always talked about doing it. How did you, what was that conversation like when y'all said, fuck it is time, this is, let's do with that. It was without question, man.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He and Mark Pitts, you know what I'm saying? He had been talking. And Chris came up with the name R&B. You know what I'm saying? It was like Raymond Brown. That's getting asked for it better. That's fine. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It was crazy. So we've been talking about it for many, many years. you know what I'm saying? Like I fired my manager in the past, man. You know, I was working with Randy Phillips at the time. And we were supposed to go out back then. And no offense, I went out on the tour, it was successful, but that's when we were originally supposed to do it way back then.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And after that move, like he, for some reason Chris was going through whatever he was going through, they were like, nah, it ain't really good time. And so I was like, nah, so we ended that relationship. nonetheless, you know, it was still on my mind. We were still been working on it, working on records together. He do records for my album. I do records for his.
Starting point is 00:47:05 We just kept talking. I just kept watching and build. I kept building. We just kept going. I was like, yo, there's no better time right now than right in this moment. This right here is going.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's going to flush it up, bro. It's going to make everybody understand how important brotherhood is. What y'all doing here? This brotherhood, you know what I'm saying? What we doing, me and Chris, that's brotherhood. It ain't even a competition.
Starting point is 00:47:28 That's not what this is. This is a celebration, bro. And you know what's crazy is that's why we love the locks so much because they never split up and they're real brothers. And us as men is very important that we show people true brotherhood. And so somebody might have a problem with Jada kiss. I don't want to say it because, you know, somebody always got a problem with one of us, right?
Starting point is 00:47:55 or Calid or whoever is very important for me to stand next to Norie or Callet or kiss in the middle of whatever the worst shit is because you got to show the good job. It's nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:48:12 We honor our brand is loyalty. So it's like, you know, that what you're doing right there, you're doing so much for the fans. The culture. The culture because. The world you need to see this. They need to see shit like this.
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Starting point is 00:50:42 but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, A.O. rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?
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Starting point is 00:51:41 We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. Every episode we're trying to help our guests improve their careers by mainly focusing on how they can help us improve our careers. The show's famously super accessible so you can easily jump into any of our 650 episodes and understand what's going on. We recommend some of our recent episodes with Ben's. Dillard. The definition of what is a movie has kind of changed anywhere, too, right?
Starting point is 00:52:01 What do you think it is now? It's images and words being spoken, captured by some sort of technology. Danny McBride He loves Hobart. Oh, that's fantastic. And you make it on, you make your own. That's great. I call him Terro Reed. It's a good name.
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Starting point is 00:52:59 I went to Hermes yesterday. He said, you stop and by. I know the whole schedule. Why is you're going to be real happy? This is Joe Crack, New York. Yeah. I walk into Hermes. They tell me, hey, I was just pulling up.
Starting point is 00:53:13 You know, we're getting the bags ready. I'm like, yeah, that's my brother right there. I didn't tell them this part of it. But it's so important, man, to show that brotherhood because we got people whether we like it or not that really look up to us. Mark Pitts in the building Your Mark, come in here
Starting point is 00:53:30 Goochie done What's up, baby? Go ahead. Yo Mark, come in, man. Dang. Bless it. Mark, Pia. What I'm going?
Starting point is 00:53:39 Royalty and so many. Gooch, go to understand, man. What's up, baby? Yeah, sir. Your Mark, come here. You got to sit in the couch, even though you got a mic mic set up for you.
Starting point is 00:53:51 You're that important. We were just singing your praises, bro. Yeah, with flags at, though. Oh, he looks at. He needs a. I've been wanting to do that. Every show. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:54:01 and I get on. Some flags. Some flags. You know what I'm going to. I brought that to the game. He's the fuck of that guy. I've been wanting to do that shit, that's the phone on flags right there.
Starting point is 00:54:16 My God. You, my mom pissed, my brother. I know. I had to pull you. Can we tell the people because you specialize? If it wasn't us,
Starting point is 00:54:27 You wouldn't even be sitting on this house. You specialize on what they call it anonymity. Like you stay in the background. You'd rather be anonymous than all that. You ain't the guy. Dreight Donovan, man. He made this shit happen. Some of the guys besides Asher Raymond that you signed in the hip-up.
Starting point is 00:54:46 We just got to let them know how it was. If Tommy Mottola pulled up, I'd have asked him the same shit. You know, with Cole. Yes. Chris Brown, Miguel. Yes. All out the park. All fucking Grand Slam.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So James. Biggie small. Biggie, yeah, absolutely. I ain't sound big. My man, man, man, man, major influence. Absolutely. Too much shit. I'm blessed, man.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I just, man, I ain't I been a part of a lot of stuff. I'm blessed. I love this, right? Absolutely. And what you say, Mark, when you look at life and wake up and life's great
Starting point is 00:55:26 and there's tulips out. and flowers in the furrow just chirps. Because I know how you lived. You're one of them guys. No, no, no, no. Not everybody. Listen, trust me. Sometimes when people say they networked.
Starting point is 00:55:41 You hear some people names, when you hear Mark Pitts, just know it's a different kind of name. I'm saying something else. What I am saying is this guy enjoys the finer things in life. What I'm saying is you hear guys network this and you look at it and you be like,
Starting point is 00:55:56 yeah, I don't understand. what they're talking about, what they said. This guy knows how to live a life is what I'm trying to tell you. So how are you feeling after all these years, still making a big ass check, still living the life you want to live? I mean, I'm living a life because I feel good. I feel good.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I feel like I made it because I'm a knock. You know what I mean, I'm blessed. So I feel full. So at the end of the day, everything else, on the Cape. I mean, so, but you know, I'm talking as far as
Starting point is 00:56:32 that to what you're talking about, I ain't done. Hey! Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Oh, love. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so what you need to understand. Hold up. Hold up. You need to know this. Say I own the Museum of Natural History.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Okay. You named some artists that will be up in a fucking museum like a Mona Lisa that you brought to the game or had an influence in their career. That's what I'm saying. The way I look at hip hop and the music we do
Starting point is 00:57:10 is like a religion. And so I'm like, damn, that's one of the four founders who had a vision to do it. Like, you know, we talk about this tour is the best tour. It's Michael. It's Prince. We never thought it would happen.
Starting point is 00:57:24 You had a part to do with both their careers. That's all I'm trying to do. Yeah, he has something to do with this tour. My people out there, that's how important this man is to the gang, to hip-hop culture, to music. No, this tour was, for the word,
Starting point is 00:57:38 even you're saying it right. I wanted to do this tour forever. This is like my dream come true. You know what I mean? Because I'm always, I always tell them, like, you know, when you be watching these, you see these posters or pictures are like, thanks to Natcha,
Starting point is 00:57:54 you see, you see all the, you always want, and what the hell the rap back, yeah, man. What they're doing? But we're living in it. These kids are, they're living in it.
Starting point is 00:58:02 You know what I mean? We take that for granted. They are living in it. And we know how many times you wish you could see friends or Michael? I mean, you can't do that unless you play it. I don't be alive. You can make,
Starting point is 00:58:12 you thought he was fake. I thought he was fake. When I first heard about it, I was out all, that shit ain't real. No, no. Let me tell you something. In the moment,
Starting point is 00:58:21 you see them, I'm going to stay together. I get emotional every time. I can't wait. I'm going to tell you something. You in this guy beat me out some us. Your sneakers, man. You still are not going to be sneakers.
Starting point is 00:58:34 You could throw me flags in the world. Hey, yo, Reggie, you hear him. Reggie, you hear him. Somebody. Reggie and Jordan, you hear him, right? Somebody, please get crack a pair of us, Jordan. He gets sneakers. Never.
Starting point is 00:58:47 He put it on ush. He put it on beat up. He put it on. Reg, you made it. Reg, you have. Ten free shots. for us. And they didn't get my sneakers.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I'm telling you, you the kid, what you're doing? All you want is a big sneakers. But you told me something at the time, man, I believe it 1 million percent
Starting point is 00:59:09 because my son, you know, they used to call me, be like, yo, the sneaker got $20,000 sneakers on and there was a size 9.
Starting point is 00:59:17 He'd be wearing my shit, size 12. Yeah, dude. Sneakers get missing. Yeah. Like, no. Your kids, your size?
Starting point is 00:59:24 And you be in your clothes. Be careful. Yes. My son swipes the hell out of him. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to. The little ones are going to soon be able to play. What Arsha told me behind the scene was like, yo, you know, a lot of those, you know, went missing.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I can believe that. They grabbed them. They get legs on them. Yeah, they got legs on them. They ran. You know what bugs me out about you is like, how the fuck you perform on roller skates? Nice on skates.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Like the presentation of your show, I haven't seen this one. roller skating, the strippers in the back. If somebody had never been to like a magic city or something, that production. You got the closest version. I went about four times or four or five. Man times.
Starting point is 01:00:10 That she was incredible, though. I'm sitting in the... It's at work, bro. That's all this is about. It's about making certain that we make moments that have unforgettable, man. This show right here, it don't happen. I'm telling me, if you've seen it,
Starting point is 01:00:24 then you get it. It's a reason why it's sold out everywhere because it just don't happen. In addition to the fact that we come together, the work that we put in every night and the fact that we just, we keep each other going. Even halfway through the show, we'd be running into each other backstage. Like, yo, you're killing that shit.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Keep it going. Keep them vocals up. Yo, yo, you're dancing your ass off. You know, it's crazy. Because you, you know, that's what it's about right there. No moments right there. People don't even understand, man. How hard it is for you to jump on one hand that died.
Starting point is 01:00:55 and Chris, I think I've seen him jump on one finger somewhere. That man did some shit. I'm watching an award show, and that man did some shit. Then I was just looking out. I said, it's not human. He was jumping on table, dumping on. I said, what the fuck? The MTV joint?
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yo, I was like, what the fuck is this? I'm looking at the shit. I said, yo, how can you be a, what is this? Like an airbender or something? I think that's what's great about it, too. Like, Iron, sharp as iron. You know what I'm saying? We out here continuing to push each other.
Starting point is 01:01:34 You know what I'm saying? It's like when you, for me, man, it's like when you've done as much as I've done, man, it's like I need that motivation. I want that motivation. I want to be able to look at, you know what I'm saying? My comrades, you know what I'm saying? My cats and be like, yo, push me, make me better.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I'm going to push you, make you better. We're going to challenge each other every night and push each other. That right there is what makes great entertainment. man. You know what I'm saying? Mario on the show. Shout out to Mario. So appreciative to be on the tour,
Starting point is 01:02:03 you know, to get that call. You know what I mean? This is a stadium tour. This ain't no regular shit. Matter of fact, I got to remind me to bring my ears, man, this is a fucking. You better, man. You better, if you don't, you ass out.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I got my shit tonight. Don't be out there. That shit is like, we go on a cellboat in the whole shit, they don't know what I'm focusing. It's like being in a cellboat on the hole. You ain't catching that shit. That shit coming back from so many ways.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It's a fucking problem, huh? Speaking of Mario and even seeing it, I can't see the crowd. It ain't topless. We know he's coming with this. This is like the Equinox store. Just to see the reaction when you see this, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:49 I'm the most ripped up. You know what you're saying? It's just. I'm good. that the R&B's touring is doing stuff like that. It's amazing. It's about
Starting point is 01:03:01 putting to respect on goddamn R&B. Facts, man. What happened, man? Because you're still a big exec. What happened to R&B, my nigga? We out here at the Usher
Starting point is 01:03:12 and Chris. What happened to like R&B as a genre? We just went through some songs. Remember when that song came on and you with your wife and go, I left my baby, girl, said, I won't be coming home.
Starting point is 01:03:25 You couldn't even mumble that shit while it was playing. Because your wife wanted to throw plates and bottles at you. Like, she thinks you talks about it. You ain't coming back. You met the next. What happened to that type of shit, Mark? Yeah. You're looking at it.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I can't even... Yesterday happened yesterday. Raymond and Brown. You know what I mean? Like, we're here. That's why we're doing this. That's the answer. That's the answer.
Starting point is 01:03:53 answer to that. Everybody that used to perform, you have a famous song of dance. Oh, God. Every single person. Like I said, that's amazing. And by the way, and the special guest, too, is crazy. The special guest moments have, yeah, because we have special guests. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:11 In different markets, it's the shit. You know, last week, we was at Jay-Z's joint historical stadium. Yeah. And just before we went on, I bumped into you, Tyler to create. I see, yo, man, they got a nice guy rising here, because I'm over there with the bullets scar, niggas, outside.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Every gang member in the United States of America, I said, yo, this is where they put the nice guys. Put the elite. Fucking Tyler the Christian. It's levels to the rising. It was a fucking beautiful section. We didn't make that, right?
Starting point is 01:04:44 They would spit braises out of their shit. That shit was crazy. They was in the building. And so, night, you know, I just told you people they try to hook me up. They said, yo, we want to put you in the sweet this. I said, man, I got to be a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I got to try to dance move. You know, I used to know how to dance. I was trying to dance. He should try to be like heavy D. When I was a kid, I wasn't going to be in the rhythm section. Oh, shit. Yeah. I might be saucy tonight too.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah, I might get a couple of aces of spades. A couple. I might get saucy today. You know what I'm saying? That shit. That shit. You know, I got to have fun. The whole family coming.
Starting point is 01:05:29 You know, I'm just going to make sure you don't levitate dance by my wife like that shit you'll be doing. Because, you know, the man danced in one spot like he fucking George Chesson floated. I'm looking at him. I try to tell him I've been around a lot of cool motherfuckers. So I'm trying to act like I see what's going on. But, you know, Mark did that yesterday. I look back again floating in one spot. I see, yo.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I said, what the fuck? This guy's fucking crazy. We did Puerto Rico, right? Your wife is Puerto Rican, correct? Yeah. And your first, like, big TV special, you did it in Puerto Rico. Why and what's your connection to Puerto Rico like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Love it like that. Man, why do I love Puerto Rico? Because she loved me. Oh. I think you the first ever. ever an R&B group to sell out a stadium in Puerto Rico and Beyonce came out
Starting point is 01:06:28 that Yankee They just open that joint When we did that Bro R&B That might be hard That might be hard For R&B to sell out
Starting point is 01:06:40 Puerto Rico Nah With R&B That's crazy You didn't though Yeah Like I'm talking about you didn't And that for me
Starting point is 01:06:47 Was a big moment for me Because I used to be really afraid to fly and I never went nowhere and the first time I went somewhere to perform was Puerto Rico. I heard about that. I heard you didn't want to get on the plane. Yo, I was terrified. I'm still
Starting point is 01:07:01 scared, but I get on the plane, but at that time I ain't flying maybe like 14 years and I went out there and did that shit. It felt like, yo, us are going to do some shit out here? Yeah, that shit was crazy. Yeah, it's number one lean back's number one, gasoline, it's number one in the span and shit.
Starting point is 01:07:17 That shit was... I'm walking through the hallway. Beyonce's walking through. I'm like, you know, this shit out of control. This shit was a great moment. Yeah, Puerto Rico does love you. New music, anything coming up because we're getting the tour, man. It's all about this tour right now.
Starting point is 01:07:35 This tour is so loud. Like, it's nothing that, what are you talking about? In the moment. This shit gone already. Okay. Absolutely. Change, you know. I'm seeing what I'm seeing what I'm saying. Back on the beat. I'm going to keep saying it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah. You know what I mean? Nobody, let me ask you something behind the things in business. Nobody doubt. Like, you didn't hear one inch of a doubt when you said, yo,
Starting point is 01:07:57 we're going to do stadiums, usher, and there wasn't, there's not a human that doubted that it would be fire, right? Not at all.
Starting point is 01:08:06 But you always get one, you're in the music business. The music business, let me tell you how crazy the music business is. You're having me with somebody you play a song and everybody's like,
Starting point is 01:08:17 yo, this shit, this is, yeah. Yeah, you get one dude to say, well, don't know if the timing, then you get another one from over here. Like, I was kind of thinking the same thing. You seen how many times you see rooms turn around through your executive career? All the time. Yeah, we got to believe in it way before anybody else do.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And stick to it. You know. You know. Come on. Come on, crack. You know. Yeah, bro. Me.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I've seen it. I've been in the room where I'm just like, you get one person to say, well, maybe else you just spraying his wrist or something. He does that one and they will fuck the whole shit up. You know? This was like, you know, the first time when like, when he saw the commercial,
Starting point is 01:09:13 when you saw the shootouts in? Oh, Al Pacino and Robston. Yes. You know, At the cap, you was like, finally, you that that feeling? Oh, this shit too was so good. That was a good comparison.
Starting point is 01:09:26 That was real. That was a good ass comparison right there. This shit is so good. I ain't think it was real. I don't think he thought it was real. It was like made up. It's like superman. We came to the set like, yo, you saw that?
Starting point is 01:09:40 You saw Ursh and Chris Breezy? That's real. He's like it. Nah, there is. I've seen the tickets on my A-MAC statement. Oh, you saw it already. Like before you... My wife went,
Starting point is 01:09:54 she was... I knew it was real. Her sister's got the calendar they, they copy and shit marking off the beat. My massage therapist. It's definitely real. She didn't even...
Starting point is 01:10:04 My massage therapist. Been my massage therapist for 15 years. Simone, I love you. The level of harassment to get in here and backstage and this... And I'm like, yo, sis,
Starting point is 01:10:19 I don't... got the juice. She thinks, you know, because she's a sister, you know what I'm saying? I know her husband, everybody. I'm like, I can't produce what you want. They're saying, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:34 I've got to stay. I'm out of the way. You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit too much of a legendary, you know, the tour is incredible. Usher, we thank you for your presence, brother. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I ain't, first of all, I'm proud of y'all. I don't get the seat on, you know, in the rush. No, we love you, coach. No, I love you, brother. Appreciate you. You know, I'm proud of you. I appreciate you. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I was saying, man. Can I say something? Let her say something. Hey, Craig. I'm still waving my terror squad. Oh, chained out. Oh, shit. There you go.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah. You're happy. You know, I hate him every time. am I seeing too? Every time, every time you're coming together. I say, I'm like, you're crazy. You know what return to server? Remember, you served as Serena Williams.
Starting point is 01:11:30 You know how fast you hits that shit right back? Return the server tonight. You don't have a T.S. Don't worry about it. Your man over there, he know my staff. He know I don't skimp on nothing. I don't skimp out on nothing. You know my style.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Your mom, your mom, stop. Stop, yo, y'all know what's such? Yo, by the way, I talk. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh, no, I know. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:11:58 We've been doing this. I'm gone. How long we've been doing this shit? You know what's... I know. One day you come to my house, you levitate back. Y'all shit. You know, God's living that bitch.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Them flowers are just so squintzy. Them shit, you walk in there, you're like, damn, this shit. This is my thing. I'm really to say, outside going to smell like two were real. Outs. going to smell like this. Outside, AC.
Starting point is 01:12:22 My birthday party. AC. Flout. Somebody get real disrespectful out. Everybody you can name is come and pulling up. Outside.
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's going to smell like that shit. Plugging this. Like fucking the additional. Dempty. Outside. You know, one day, you need coffee books.
Starting point is 01:12:44 One day I'm at a restaurant in Dubai. At a restaurant, it's outdoors. You only got AC outside. I'm not talking about an AC machine. Like, AC in a hundred degree outside. You eating nothing on top of you.
Starting point is 01:13:00 This shit blowing like AC. Like you end up. You know, people. We got to get stupid like that. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. Dragon kiss. Make some noise for us.
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