Joe and Jada - Yankees legend Dave Winfield breaks down NEW MEMOIR 'Touching All The Bases' + talks George Steinbrenner battles, inspiring Derek Jeter & tells CLASSIC Bob Gibson story

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by 12-time All-Star and Hall of Fame baseball legend Dave Winfield to celebrate the release of his new memoir, 'Touching All Bases.' The multi-sport phenom opens up about his historic career, being drafted across three sports (baseball, basketball, and football), and inspiring Derek Jeter to start his own foundation with his trailblazing philanthropic work, prompting Joe to share a heartfelt story about how the Dave Winfield Foundation gave him his first chance to step inside Yankee Stadium as a kid growing up in the South Bronx. Winfield pulls back the curtain on his turbulent tenure with the New York Yankees, detailing his battles with George Steinbrenner, the threats against his massive contract, and how those obstacles ultimately forged his resilience. The legends also swap unforgettable anecdotes, from Winfield getting revenge on Bob Gibson with a monstrous home run to Joe's hilarious memory of a stranded Phil Rizzuto getting rescued from Harlem. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX Merch is here: https://joeandjadashow.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Power, speed, defense, intelligence, leadership, and longevity. He was a 12th. 12 time. You hear him? 12-time All-Star who finished his career with more than 3,100 hits, 465 home runs, and over 1,800s. He played 22 years in the big leagues. We started for the Padres, Yankees, Angels, Blue Jays, Twins, and the Indies.

and helped the Toronto Blue Jays win a World Series. But this isn't just a baseball store. He was drafted in baseball, basketball, and football. Baseball, basketball, and football. Are you hearing what the deal? He was drafted in baseball, basketball, and football. A true multi-sport phenom before that was even a conversation. And now he's telling the whole story in his memoir

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That's the introduction, you know. I'm glad you appreciate the intro. I forget some of these things, you know, but I've had incredible life, and I'm glad to be here sharing it with you guys today. You know, like I said, this book that I just finished, 30 plus years in the making,

but I just waited to the right time, and now it drops today across the country. And I got to- Touching all the bases. Touching all the basics. Touching all the basics. Yeah, and then when I talk about it, it's not just about touching

in baseball. It's about business. It's about sports. It's about family. It's about community, service to others, things like that. So I hit on a lot of things. And, of course, I'm going to say, hey, wasn't George Stein better the guy that on the team?

Yeah, I touch on him too. I'm going to take you behind. I take everybody behind the curtain, let curtain back. And I put you in the room. Yankee fans, let's go. Baseball fans, let's go. Touching all the basis.

Decisions. made. Now, I got to say something. Yeah. I grew up so poor in the Bronx and the projects. I grew up maybe like five blocks away from Yankee Stadium. And every night, the stadium would light the sky. That's how we knew we had a game. And the only way I got to get in Yankee Stadium was through the Dave Winfield Foundation. Y'all would give us tickets in the community center. And man, that changed my life. and never went to Yankee Stadium but seen the inside of the stadium. And so one time I seen you

it was a Michael Jordan party on All-Star weekend or something. I don't know where it was. Houston to L.A., and I dove on a... You was driving the Mercedes, and I dove on your car when I saw you. I can't believe you ain't remember this. And I was like, Dave Winfield.

Dave! Oh, my God. You used to send me to the yet, man. You're so special to me. And we had Dow Strawberry there. Any baseball player ever run into, I'd be like, yo, man, Dave Winfield, man.

Because I don't know if you know how big that was, just giving us a ticket to sit in Yankee Stadium. It was the biggest deal for us. It was like it's two worlds. You know, when you played, the South Bronx looked like Vietnam outside the wall. It was rough. Really rough.

Buildings, mattresses. Really? rough when you was playing in that stadium, but then we get in the stadium and it's like botanical, they got green grass in the Bronx? Right. Like, what is this? Right. Man, but you're a special guy, man.

You changed my life, man. And that's why I like giving back to the community so much because of experiences I have with you and how you changed my life were giving us tickets and all that. No, I appreciate it. You know, I grew up in the Midwest. People wonder where I grew up. Minnesota. But I was there before Prince, before Jimmy Jam, and all the people like that.

We were there 100 plus years, my family. And, you know, I just enjoy sports. I got good at it. But when I first made it as a professional athlete, and we didn't make a lot of money back then in the beginning. I'd tell you more during the program how all that's evolved. But you didn't get rich playing the sports. but I always knew that I was on the shoulders of other people that came before me.

And I appreciated that. So the first thing I did, we started a scholarship. We made $15,000 of rookies. But I took $1,000 and had my friends and family. We put together a scholarship for minority student athletes called the Winfield Awards. And it started small and it eventually got bigger. Now, this year, 50 years later, We had a 50th anniversary, and we sent over 500 kids to college across the hundred.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm proud of that. I'm proud of the numbers that I put up, the home runs, RBIs, championships, and all, the Hall of Fame and all that. But if I just did all this and didn't no one else benefited, no more, no doors were open, no, were their minds, no minds were open, where they thought, that maybe I can do this too, then it's kind of, it's not as worthwhile as having done for others.

And I got to tell you a story. I got my daughter here who really kind of set this up. They were born when, you know, right when I was finishing playing. So they didn't see how all the people would congregate around me and pull. And so I brought her, we went to a Yankee old-timers game. She was young.

And all the people pulling on me, I got her. There's a picture. She's in my arms. She's in, she's in, she's in looking at all these people pulling shit. Daddy, why all these people pulling on you? You know what I mean? You're my daddy.

You know, my daughter thinks are washed up. Over the hill, give it up, this, this, that. Same thing. The other night she came to the Bryson Tiller party. Well, Madison Square Garden, he had a concert. He invited me as a special guest. I tore the pain off the roof. place went so crazy.

And when they started going crazy, I said, Yo, Azze. I shouted out on stage, like, you think your dad is washed up. Because she ain't coming to no Fad Joe show.

Only time she came to Fad Joe show, I was performing with Travis Scott. He was like, right after me. I think y'all came out with me, DeLox, in Metlight Stadium or something. And she was like,

yo, dad, please get off the stage. Travis Scott can rock. Like, please. But it felt good to go back and she finally see you in your form. But she was little. She was thinking like,

get off my daddy. This is my daddy. Oh, yeah. And then when they finished school, they finished college. And they got, her twin brother, they had jobs here in New York.

And so I just told them because every day, we were walking down the street many times in New York, bus drivers pull over. And they, you know, fans off the wheel. But she was, I said,

now you better act right, do the right thing. because everybody knows. Everybody knows. Everybody knows. Dave, let me tell you to, well, before we started, kids called his dad. His dad was like, Big Dave.

We're going to do what we got to do to promote this book, this, because everybody loves you here. Right? And you are such a historical figure to New York, right? And, like, we just look at you as like a superhero. And so that's how we look at Dave, I don't know if Dave Winfield knows we looked at Dave Winfield like a superhero.

Now, you know, I was going to ask you that. That was a question. I come here, a lot of guys come from other teams or other parts of the country. And you're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. But what is it? I'm honest, what is it about that made people kind of connect with me? I was always such a ball. All I know is once I was able to learn old enough to know about sports

and baseball was baseball was the first sport they ever put me in my parents for my pops and rest in peace to my uncle Phil they'd be in there big and big Dave he's screaming and tell us you gotta watch it

if you was already he was already a superhero to me when I'm just learning about baseball see I'm older than him day okay so I finally admit I love blood I like you better in the Padres uniform

than the Yankees when I used to play cards. So you remember you buy them cards and they give you a chewing gum. Right, right. And then the way you do it is you play cards and whoever matches a color, I don't remember. It was too long ago you take the cards. So it was like gambling

but with playing cards. And you had that Padres uniform. The yellow and brown. And yellow and brown boy, I think. What? What? What? Those are throwbacks, too.

Now I could have had a dollar, right? Like, the baseball cards, they worth so much now. Hold on to them. You never go broke, man. Man, I lost those a long time ago. I lost those a long time ago. They used to play around the time they had the Willie Stard you. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Field up. Yeah. You had all a big point. Hank Aaron. I got a chance to play with Willie Maze's. Hank Cameron. You got to play with Willie Mays and Hank Hill.

Yeah, yeah, before they retired. What was that like? I'm going to tell you the truth. You know, even though I can come in and you're a number one draft pick and I don't go to the minor leagues and all of a sudden, I'm playing against guys that I had a picture on my wall. I tore it out of the magazine. Two people I had on the wall.

One was Bob Gibson because he was a pitcher out of St. Louis, the lowest, earned run average in history of baseball. Like every time he pitched, every nine N, he gave a 1.1-2 runs. You know, these dudes, you know, make 40 million make with an ERA or 6.2 or whatever. I'm not mad at him, but it was just the time. So he was a bad brother, you know, two-sport guy.

So I like, when I pitched, I was him, and as a hitter was Willie McCovey. He and Willie Mays played together. Big left-handed batter. He'd walk up there, step in the batters, and you can see pictures. You see that, you know, their throat like that. But when I got a chance to play against Willie Mayes,

before he retired, he was older and everything. But the first time he hit me a ball in the outfield, you know, I caught it like it was nothing, but I said, man, I should put this in my pocket. That's Willie Mays. That's how I looked at these guys that came before me. Hank Aaron ended up being one of my best friends in baseball. Love that man because they went through a lot of stuff for us to be where we were today.

So I always revered and respected, you know, those people that came before me. Negro League guys. You know what I mean when I had a chance to get, bring honor. You played with them. Well, yeah, Hank. I thought that was before your time. It was. But Hank Aaron, he had like a year with like the Indianapolis clowns.

Willie Mays had about a year or something like that. So they were some of the last. So, I mean, they finished in 1950s. Well, when Jackie Robinson crossed the barrier in 47 or whatever, it started to get away from the Negro leagues. But there was guys that played in it for a minute. I just looked at them like they were uncles, grandfathers, friends, and they influenced my life.

So I gave back to them too. That's awesome. And before we get more into the memoir, I just got to ask you this. I ain't going to lie, that book is fly. That book is going to go in my house. I look good at me. No, no, no, no, no. That book is going to read it no, no matter what.

Before we go into the memoir some more, what did it feel like getting drafted, baseball, basketball, and football? That's crazy. And he was drafted by both ABA and NBA. So four leagues, three sports. What is that? What is that? Yeah, you know, I'd tell you, young people don't know of an era before social media.

You know, people nowadays, they be, you know, trying to accomplish. Dave, you sound like us right now. Like, this is like, you must have been watching this show, okay? He is on outside of the time. You don't watch. You talk everything you've said so far. That's how we talk about hip-hop, the pioneers, people who paved the way to this. That's our whole thing in this show.

I got you. But I'm sorry to stop you. The kids don't know nothing before social media. Go ahead, Dave. I'm sorry about that. No, so, I mean, I give you a quick context. Out of high school, I was drafted in baseball, Baltimore Orioles. They wanted me to pitch.

And they said, we got $500 for you in a bus ride to Bluefield, West Virginia. I said, no, thank you. I think I'm going to go to college. So I go to Minnesota. Four years later, all of a sudden, you got three more inches. You got about 30 pounds. You know, you get the competition, the world travel. So I was a different person.

And so all of a sudden, you know, we win Big Ten championships in both basketball, baseball. And so when I got drafted in baseball, I knew I was going to get drafted. I knew that because that was my main focus. Yeah, my whole life. And basketball came because we were good. And 17,000 people a day would watch. just play, you know, I got a lot of attention. And so that's where the NBA, the Atlanta Hawks drafted me.

And then it was Utah Stars, it was ABA. And then that's, you know, folks that don't know Dr. Jay and all these other people played in the ABA. You know, ABA had better players than the NBA. And then the last one, football, the Minnesota Vikings. I'm from Minnesota. They said, this big brother, I know he can catch. Did you play football? Man, last time I played football

about 12 years old. But they said, look at him, man. Let's throw him the ball and he'll get it done. And so... I think they just drafted somebody real high that never played football in their life. He just beyond big. Is that true?

It just happened. They might have. Might have. Who was it? Philadelphia? Somebody took somebody top ten that's just the biggest guy in the world. They was like, no, no.

He's going to play football. He's going to... You don't even play football. Yeah, you can learn it, you know, but you got to have it. Like that soccer guy, the Viking. What's the soccer guy? Uh-huh. Learned he hollet?

It's the biggest guy in the world. Akimala. Who? War Bernard never played football in his life. He's the biggest guy in the world. He said, no, no. They dropped. Big corn fed dude, huh?

Oh, no. Yeah, but he was drafted in the seventh round, not in the first round. But still? Oh, I didn't know. But he got drafted. He never played. Oh, yeah. Westlakeem Elijah won.

I think he was a soccer player or something. And they said, no, a goalie or something like that. And all of a sudden, you know, he comes, Akeem to drink. His footwork is, he's different. Oh, yeah. We don't want to bring up no Embed over here, okay? Don't bring no Philly talk around here. He's quiet.

He got tape on his mouth. Mind your business, bro. Don't be bigging up Philly right now. No, no, don't do that. You know, Dave, we're similar in a small way. I'm realizing, and I've always realized you a big guy, right? You said you from the Midwest. Do you ever get embarrassed that your mom's used to hold your hand

when you was already like 12 or 13 and you like bigger than your mind? My mom's used to cross the street holding my hand and my mom's in pops this small. And I used to be like walking the, across the street with him like, you had that experience, right, Dave? I think you big since you was little. Right?

No, no. No, I was, I got one brother, Steve. He's a year older than me. But no, we loved our mother, but she didn't always hold us like that. Man, she was happy to have two sons. And I got no problem saying,

I love my mother, and she was our best friend. And I would call her. See, they had never had the experience. experiences I had, but I'm still going to call her, tell her what's going on, and it would always be, give it 100% and I love you. And so we were always close. And unfortunately, she passed away before she had a lot of years of my life experience growing up and leaving town.

But, you know, when I played, I had to play summer ball in Alaska playing baseball. And, you know, they're at the airport crying, you know, because they don't want to see your son. I said, don't worry, I'll be the mayor when I come back. Ain't no thing. You know. You know what's crazy? I just had a concert in St. Louis, and I went to the airport. And it was a man, they're going to know.

I don't know their names. It was a gentleman and his wife, and their son is a big boy. So I knew he played boy, right? And he was going to Budapest to play out there. And they was like, not crying, but it was. It was like a real sentiment. I know he was ready to shake him because, you know, I seen him after on the other side of TSA. He had the hoodie on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was chilling. There, he was like the little kid, but he was a big little kid. But I just seen that in St. Louis. I got to tell a quick story. It ain't a Dave Winfield story, but I got to do it, right? So I'm in St. Louis. I got a concert.

I show up. Everybody's on there. Rick Ross. everybody, and they tell me, yo, your cousin's in the, uh, in the green room. I said, my cousin, I ain't got no cousins in St. Louis. And I walk in the room, it's Buster Rimes. Yeah. Busters in there, Splift Star.

I was like, yo, what you're doing to tell? They were like, yo, we heard, we did a show earlier. What are we doing? We taught a pain off of St. Louis. Yeah, I brought Buster Rhym. You know, he's the greatest entertainer of hip-hop history. Him and Splift Star, that's it. Nobody can mess with them.

Nobody. Buster moms come, stand back, enjoy the show, right? We do that, we catch up, we're talking. The next day, I'm coming for the Jay-Z thing, and then I got to do Madison Square card. I'm on an 8 o'clock plane. When I tell you, they canceled that plane about three, four times, no AC.

We're pulling out, oh, a light just came on, the plane is old this to come back. Oh, everybody joined, four times. So I'm in St. Louis. I said, for sure. I'm going to miss everything.

Spirit Airlines. Right? No, no. No, go ahead. It actually was American. Okay. But. They like the new spin.

I call, yeah, they like the new street. You know, American. So I go like this. So I call, my people, I'm like, yo, give me on any flight. Right. I'm telling you a true story.

They give me a flight. There's only. two coach tickets left to go to New York from United. So me and me and Rich doing the O.J. Simpson through the airport jumping over the street, running with the bat. Like we try to get to the other side. We get to the other side. We get on the plane.

It's the second time I ever was going to get on coach. I got on coach one time and sat next to the Beverly Hillbillies. The little kids were throwing potato chips in my face. Y'all got so violated. they were jumping over my, no, coach. Yeah. I literally, and I'm a humble guys.

I'm very humble, but I literally, every day of my life, I pray to God. One of my prayers is, please let me fly first class. I do not want to fly coach again in my life. This time, I had to get here, so I'm about to go coach. Check this out, kiss. I'm walking and I see Buster vibes, these first class. So the first time I got to go coach, I'm like, holy shit, bus is going to tell everybody. I said, my God, it had to go like that God.

What did I do for to humble me like this? Yeah, Buzz. I'm walking to the back. DJ Scratchettor gets up. He says, your Joe, where you going? I said, long story, four flights. I got to go to this Jay Z thing. He's sick, yo.

You can't go back there. I see your scratch. Where he said? He said the Don't sit in the back. Take my seat. Now, I usually would argue, you know. Nah. Nah.

Right? I don't want no favors like that. I looked at him. I was sweating bullets. We ran through that. I said, Scratch, I take the chair. Take the chair. I sat down, man, and, man, I was so appreciative.

And it's like God could do some things. He could just show you that, you know, you ain't the boss. You ain't in charge, but yet still go. All right, Joe. Yeah, here you go. Man, I looked out the window that whole flight. I was so happy. That's a beautiful story, man.

Yeah. I got to get him. Oh, him. That was a beautiful. I owe him. Like, I got to get him something. I got a cold buster. Whatever scratch and tall lights,

I got to get him something. This was a big deal for me. It's literally a prayer every day. Please, God, keep me in first class. Do not want the... They was hit with bags of potato, chiming over. Like, I was their cousin of some...

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this kid today is now the shortstop for the Yankees. And I was happy with that. He said, but him to say, he told me years ago, he said, if I ever make it, he said, I want to create a foundation like Dave Winfield. And so

you never know. I didn't know Derek Jeter and dad from Adam. But, you know, you impact people's lives. This one is for the OGs. Let's keep it 18-100. How perfect is Derek Jeter? So what I'm trying to say is L.L. Kuljay was sitting right where you was at two days ago.

And I declared him the greatest ambassador of hip-hop. I said, L.L. Kul-Jay, I said, he is the perfect poster child family man. No BS. No nothing. I say you are like the best representation. of hip-hop. Yeah. I told L.L.

And to me, in baseball, Derek Jeter's like, the captain is like... Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, he's a man. In fact, you know, I have a kid with him. When he retired, I said, man, you're the only brother. You're the only, one of the only players

that even exited the game on a high level. I don't know. He hit a home run or drove in the game-winning RBI, closed out the stadium. closed out his career. You know, mine, I got hurt, you know, my arm, I'm in a sling and can't be in the playoffs. Very few people get that perfect ending,

that fairy tale ending. But I'm going to flip it for a second when you talk about L.L. We're good friends. This brother, I love it, man. There's maybe for hip-hop and, you know, the music that you all follow on a daily basis,

I'm just going to say he's impacted me a great deal with good friends. He's one of the people that I can go on my phone. I could call him. Buster is another. Yeah. And Snoop is another.

You know. But a lot of people, I don't know. And, you know, that's not like I hang with them all the time. But L.L., I'm going to tell you, he's in my... Your top five. Yeah, he is. But he's going to be in my documentary, too. I got documentary coming out.

He's at the end of this year or first and next year. You know, I'm the hottest in the game, Dave. You need me on there to talk about how you changed my life. We got to tell him, say that last two percent. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if y'all know what's going on out here. But, yo, Dave, you need me from five blocks away to tell a story. We heard it's on tape

I personally can't believe I'm talking to Dave Winfield That's how much you impacted my life I don't think you understand Like you know what you mean to us And what you meant to us growing up We had a million guests I never called my dad I never FaceTime my dad

Dave Winfield You're dancing Who these other guys? You know but I know But I'm a tell you. you. And it kind of segues to the book. I had played baseball. I mean, I was 12 years old. I wanted to be a professional baseball player. Made it. Played for San Diego for a lot of years. They didn't win. And I said, before my career is over, because you never know how long it's going to be. I said, I had to go to a team that had a chance. Yankees had a chance. They weren't necessarily the nicest in negotiations. But I said, you know, they were going to pay the most money and they had a chance to win. And I was cool with New York. I said, let's go.

And I never expected the things that happened to me when I came to New York. I mean, I know we'll get a chance to talk about some of the things that happened to you when you came to New York. You know, you used to read in the newspaper, why Steinbearing with Winfield all the time? He's a leader. It didn't make sense, right? And nobody knows. But what I did, like I said, I pulled back the curtain. And I'm telling people what was going on.

with up here, in here, with my family, how it affected my approach to life. I'll say this, man, they were part of making it some of the toughest years of my entire life. Wow. And not because I can go out and play. You know, so you win some, you lose some, and we better win more than we lose. But the things that were done to me, I'll just give you an example. And people, when they get the book. I got to get this book.

I want to read this. When they read this, think about this. I got the biggest contract of all sports people, all the sports. And I come here and ready to give my own, you know, lay it on the line. And within a month, the man said, I'm not going to give you all your money. And if you don't like it, sue me. Those words will always be. And he didn't say it just once.

He said it a few times. Now, you're from Bronx. You're from. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. They tell you that. You ain't going to give you a money?

What you're going to do? That's what I did. That's what I did. I just had to talk somebody off the cliff on the drive down. I was like, you don't need that. You got to chill. And I lived through that. And it wasn't just that because I had to, you know, you're playing.

Let me ask you another quick. Let me just ask you. What was the genius of George Steinberg? Because we always hear how horrible he was and all that. But what was so genius? He winning all the championships, right? Damn, that's a hard question. You know, I said, all right, next to it.

No, no. Back to you, Johnny. No, no, I don't mind. I don't mind answer to this. Yousers. You can give someone credit for having accomplished a lot with the organization. Yankees organization, Dodgers are close, you know, in terms of the best of all,

But if you had to work for him, your uncle, your dad, your mom, you say, man, this guy, you know, you don't treat people this way. Yeah, I do. And so there were some pretty, pretty rough times, man. Like I said, I want people to read that. But there were times, I was also a player representative for the union. I. To make sure. Nah, that was good.

So you was going through it and you was representing the place. Oh, yeah, helping everybody else. And there were some things that he brought to some of the meetings and, you know, that weren't appropriate. Yeah. Yeah. And I said, basically, you can't do that. And they don't have to come and talk to you.

I'll come and talk to you and we can straighten it out. I'm going to tell you that without the details of it, but it had to deal with they wanted to implement drug testing. and it wouldn't It wouldn't bother me Drug testing meaning steroids Everything

Everything Drug testing you for drugs But yeah But you have to You know Look at you know Like a little smoky a slip But the thing was

You just have to collectively bargain that You can't just come up on somebody who say Look I suspect you And if I don't like you I can rain Some problems on you You can't do it that way.

So when he didn't get his way and they pulled me in to the office the next day, I'm coming there ready to hit Randy Johnson or, you know, Roger Clemens or something. And then they take me upstairs. And we're talking about it. And he was so mad because he didn't have, he didn't get his way, which was wrong. He tried to trade me a couple times. I said, nah, I think I'll stay. He said, I'm going to make it rough on you, man.

I said, what are you going to do, bench me? He said, I can do more. I can release you. And after I laughed at it because, okay, release me. I'm an all-star. I can play anywhere. Just give me my money and I can start all over again. I'd have been happy with that.

But from then on, I suspected that somebody close to that circle might try to entrap me with something to deal with drugs or something like that. I'm just telling you. Damn, it was that serious. Oh. I need a sign book. I need a sign. You know, my father was amazing.

fan. Yeah. And I was a Yankee fan. And we would argue all the time. And my father would say some things. I love the Yankees. I'm not going to diss him, but he was not a Yankee fan. Yeah, yeah.

He was totally against the Yankees. And I couldn't believe we left five blocks away. He was a Mets fan. He said, your dad might have been right. After we read the book, he might have had some. Yeah. The box might have some pointers about why he didn't like it. Yeah.

No, no, he was definitely on that type of time. We listened to Big Dave, I think. He's on that. You know, I'm not mad at anybody for liking or disliking the Yankees. I came here because I wanted to be here. I wanted to be in New York. I wanted to play for the Yankees. And I never imagined that they would turn my life on his head.

Where I'm, I said, I got to go to work. And they're not for me. They're working against me. You play. You play what you. years through what years with the Yanke? I came here 81 to 90. And I left during that the 10th year of my contract.

See, guys signed for 10 years and they're good for one or two. I was good for every year. You was ready. Talk slow to me. That's just the way it was, you know? I got a famous story, Dave. Another? Yeah, let's go.

So I'm working at my uncle's store on the 132nd Park Avenue. That's in Harlem. It's nothing but pimps. prostitutes, big crack era. It's like 132nd in Park Avenue. Welfare centers there, the sanitation is, it's just a whole shit. A car stops and it's just tinted windowed up.

Somebody goes like this, right? So I come across the street. I'm maybe 13, 14, right? And it's Phil Rizuto. His car got stuck. in the middle of Park Avenue 131st. He said, kid, could you call this number?

This is a true story. Could you call this number for me? I said, all right? It wasn't no cell phones at that time. Yeah, right? Yeah. So I go inside, call the number. I said, listen, Mr. Phil Rizzuto was stuck

on 131. My man, you want to talk about the men in black? What? They came out. I couldn't, and nobody would name. Even the guys I work with Belize. this story. They got that man

out of it in about three minutes, tow truck and everything. threw him in the car. Put the toll. Gone. I couldn't even say, yo, look,

what happened? It was over. Before cell phones, they came over there. Because you know, the one three, two, you cross over that bridge,

you and Yankee Stadium. So he used to cut through the hood to get the Yankee Stadium. His shit lights out. Man, they came by

three minutes. I was telling everybody, nobody believe me, I was like, yo, Phil Zuda was right there 10 minutes ago. It came and got, it was over. And that's something. And he probably never, he used to tell stories, you know, when you listen to the broadcast, he'd be telling those

stories with Bill White. Hey, White, you know, you know, it's surprising. He never talked about that one. He never, that story. Never did. I called, I called the number. They came at three minutes. It was almost like, I couldn't even tell my brother. My brother wouldn't even believe me. I mean, I mean, gone. I didn't even know they could do that in them years.

He said, what you on, Joe? It wasn't no Phil Rizzuto, right? I was scared to tell a story because I wouldn't believe nobody believed me. Like it was in, and he was in a rough block at that time in them years. That shit was like, man, when he got out of there in like three minutes, who was the picture that you faced that you would be like, man, I got to be. on my A game. Like, who was the most, like, dominating people?

Who was throwing that heat back then? No, no, it was throwing up. They were throwing that heat. Yeah. Well, when you're from New York, so you know Tom Sevin. He was with the Mets. Mets weren't necessarily very good,

but they would beat up on the Padres. And I think at one point, his record against the Padres was like 19 and 1 or something like that. I mean, he used to just destroy the team. Bob Gibson, I guess a quick story about that. It kind of taught me, even though I was a little nervous,

meeting him what I thought was my hero. I met him in a store in St. Louis, and I'm a rookie, and I walk up to him. He's reading magazine waiting for his wife. And I come over and I say, Bob Gibson, he looks on it. I said, Dave Winfield, San Diego Padre, how you doing? He looked at me, he scowled at me and went back to reading. It's like, you're talking about discs or whatever you want to call it.

But I didn't know back then, it were no friend. Was that competition? You're just the enemy. Yeah. And I said, man, I'm going to get this dude. And so I didn't play that series. We go to San Diego real quick. The manager told me you playing that tomorrow against Bob Gibson.

I didn't sleep. I'm waiting to get Bob Gibson. So he was old, but he still had some good stuff. So first time up, he got two strikes on me and he had one of these sliders that come up there and then, you know, take a left turn and down, you know. I'd never seen this kind of stuff. So he strikes me out the first time.

And I'm cool until I get through that dugout. You think he remembers he ditched you in the school? No, he didn't know me. And so I go through the dugout and, you know, didn't say anything. I got that back room. Mother! I was mad.

So that's real. Players really go in the back room and break the back? Oh, yeah, yeah. I was hot. Next time I came up, though, we're down by two. Two men on. He got that same two strikes. Do me the slider.

And I went down and got it. You ever play golf? You ever hit the, well, you play baseball. Yes. I hit a two iron out of the stadium. And I was going around the base. You were. Looking at him.

Looking at him. And then I walked the cross home plate and pointed to him. I said, I'm here too. And I get to the dugout and the guy said, you crazy that Bob Gibson? Bob Gibson. I'm here, too. That was your guy.

And I got up the next time first tour right at my head. But I was too quick. I was always too agile, you know. He tried to hit me, boy. But that was he was known for that. You know what's crazy, Dave? I got a story like that.

Okay. In your industry? And I'm not going to challenge you who got the better story. I told you this story before and I've seen my man Sammy the other night at Jay Z. party. Sammy used

to hit a home. He was like a Dave Winfield for us. We play softball. Okay. Legendary. I'm a legendary softball playing in the South Bronx. I'm not lying to you. I'm a hitcher. Got the horizon. So you know how you said I got the joint that you think you're going to hit in the last minute. It goes like that.

So they take me one day. And I'm Fat Joe the rapper already. Right? So they take me one day, take me the other side of town. And they take me to Mates Avenue. That's by East Street, one. Like, alright, you got Fat Joe, but the whole park, that whole neighborhood, that's not even my neighborhood.

And Fat Joe, he's a shit talker. So he's pitching and talking shit to you when he throws a strike head. You're going to strike out in front of your wife. You punk, you didn't. I'm doing all the life, right? Yeah. This guy bats up.

He's the home run hitter of the area. His name was Boomer. I told you this story. You're on the podcast before. He gets up. I put two strikes on them, then I throw that riser, and I strike them out. Now, getting struck out of softball is embarrassing. I don't get who it is.

You better go up there and tap it, bunt it, something. Like, it's embarrassing, right? I strike them out. I walk them into the dougar. You ain't nothing. They told me you was the man. You ain't this, this, this. Next time I faced him, this guy hit that ball so hard.

hard day. It was a building in the middle because in the middle of the hood. To this day, the softball is stuck up on the wall. It hit the perfect hole in the wall of the building.

To this day, that's fat Joe, so Boomer put that shit up. I see my man Sammy the other day, Sam, say, yo, you said the story on the podcast, said, you know how many people hit me up. He said, boomer hit me up. Yo, the boss Still up there, Joe.

He put that shit up in the... Oh, yeah. You got Bob Gibson. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He got Bob Gibson. You got Boomer got me. But, you know, we got a lot of those stories on our way up in the game.

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NFL Daily will cover it. Listen to NFL Daily. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let me ask you guys this question. What incident or incidents in your career on the way up? Let you, you know, if you weren't strong-minded, strong-willed, could you have just given up and not become who you are today?

Was there anything that you were confronted with? You had to jump over that? I had several of them because before actually getting a deal, we had a lot of almost about to happen. I mean, it only take a couple of them to make you say, I'm going to do something else. Yeah. So from having a little thing with Dave Hall, rest in peace,

almost signing with Chub Rock. Chuck Rock was on. He said, yo, I'm going to do this one song with you guys. There's no telling. They might not like you. So we had a lot of like, like, we're about to get signed. Yeah, yeah. Go back to the drawing boy.

Go back to. So then it became like, we get signed, we get signed and we don't, you know, and then we got signed. But if you were weak of heart or just giving up, you wouldn't become who you. That's a fact. You are. Nobody's in this position who gives up. And so no matter what profession, no matter what,

the biggest thing you could do is believe in yourself and never give up. And with me, what happened with me was, it's very similar to Dave Winfield. My first song went number one in America. And then I found out it was no money in hip-hop. It was $500 a show. I was doing three shows at night for you. Virginia, North Carolina, Philly, upstate, Yonkers, the Bronx.

Like, I was trying to get it. Then now you put out one of them number ones, you're making $250,000, $300,000 a show. So I could have gave up a lot of times, you know, and just said, yo, there's no money in this. It wasn't for like a good, I think it was about five years in where, you know, I became successful enough to where it was getting real money. You know what I'm saying? So I think it was that.

But for us, it's, you know, believe it or not, the baseball game is very different from the rap game. The rap game is like... The baseball game is very different from any game. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's hard. It's very hard, very hard. The rap game and baseball is like, that ain't even a thing.

To hit that baseball. You dealt with George Steinbrenner. We dealt with meet my... Meet the... guy I'm signed to. He just came home for 30 years, killed 40 people. Johnny Biglip. You know, it just,

how are you going to navigate? There's no PhD in rat. Oh, yeah. They was lunatic Central. And if they told you something, you say, and you're just like that, you're like, yo, meet my man. It's two quarters. Because he did two quarters. He's just that,

you know, his shit was crazy. Yeah, yeah. This thing was like Big Red, man. What's the movie with Big Red? Remember? Five Heartbeats. Everybody was Big Red in the game. Yeah. You do, in baseball, where it's different, after my first season,

I went from college, college World Series as a pitcher, and the hit our most valuable player. So you can number one pick, and you start playing right away, and you see all your heroes. But they send you down to Winter Bowl. Now they have Arizona League. You know, it's very nice that everything. They send me down to a place called,

Ciudadabragon down in Mexico. And I lasted 30 days, man, because it was, I didn't speak the language. I couldn't order the food. The facilities were terrible. Now, this is 50 years ago. I mean, it's a little farm town in Mexico. We had tarantula run through the dugout. You know, you get up in the batters box.

It's like a sandbox. I lasted 30 days. And then they told me. Get me out of here. We're going to send you home, you know. So I got released. Never happened in life. I'm 20, 21 years old,

but you never, sometimes you don't run up against those obstacles. And I thought about it. Am I cut out for this game? Am I, you know, because you got to hit everybody. You have to play through everything.

And that was one incident, but I went home and was working hard. Another one. I got injured in the first year, scoring a run. dude tried to tag me out of home plate hurt my knee. They call it drop foot, you know, so I had this, you know, like when you wake up and your arm isn't working or you're...

Wow, like that? Man, I had to tape myself up for about a year and a half, man. And I could have just given up, said, man, this isn't going to work. You know, so you never, there's a lot of obstacles. And, you know, you just have to keep on going. I did what I love. And even in New York, even though they couldn't, once I had my 10-year contract,

there was nothing they could do. But on a daily basis, it was rough, man, unnecessarily. And some people could have quit or just give it in. But for me, you challenged me, and I'm going to battle you. That's just part of me. And but I'll tell you this. And I write in the book, too,

I made it through. You're going to hear a lot of different stories that you just, you'll say, I can't believe it, man. How did his brother perform? How did he sustain? How did he do well? But I had to go to another city when I left here.

And I played for when they said I couldn't play. I was done. You're finished. You're no good. They weren't playing me. I'm sitting on the bench, watching our team getting waxed out there. And they're not bringing you away.

Yeah, they're not. So it, but it was to force me to leave so they could get some compensation for me if I left. But I ended up going to four different teams. I played for six more years. As soon as I left here, I went to the Angels. I was comeback player of the year, you know, so I wasn't finished. I go up to Toronto.

We went a championship. I drove in more runs than anybody 40 years old ever did. 100 and something hit 290. You know, they would run for prime minister up here. You know, I'm good. I'm good. And I went to, then I went to Minnesota and then I, you know, home. I get 3,000 hits.

And then I finish up a career, which was Hall of Fame career. But if I would have stayed here, or if I, all the stuff they're doing to beat me down, I wouldn't be who I am today. They do this to us probably even worse than hip-hop. And so what happens is, unfortunately, I never knew, I never understood why someone's success would make others mad. Yeah. And so they just mad at you because you're successful.

Good. And they come at you in so many different ways. And it's very discouraging. You know what I mean? Is this the management or the fans or the other people? We're just talking about people in the industry. People in the industry. You know, with me, I'm a leader of, I would say, a crew.

You know, rap crew, whatever, we call Terris Bar, T.S. And our brand, similar to them, they're the same way, is based on loyalty. So our brand is based on loyalty. We mess with one of us, you mess with all of us. And we don't even care if they right or wrong. The best I could do is talk them off the cliff. Right? Right.

We, we solid. The lady to clean the house is solid. Everybody's standing up, but we go, and then so when you see, you know, people turning on you and this, and then you guys just say, man, I thought this was my friend, right? And then you think about it,

and you say, well, what's behind somebody turning on? And then it always comes back to like jealousy or you're making more money than, you're in a better position. And it's sad because I, I honestly, from the bottom of my heart, feel happy for everybody when they win. When they win, I'm happy for it. You know, when you say that,

it's not any different than when I was going through. When all the stuff was happening to me in New York and reading in the newspaper all the time, you don't know how many people have others jumped on. You couldn't believe. I won't go into detail, but it's in the book, but I have a daughter and a mother jumped on. trying to make things happen.

They hired people to do bad things to me and around me. They jumped on. It was daily. It was every day. So when the season was over, me and the wife, we get up, we said, where are we going? You know, if you're looking for me, I'm in Hong Kong, Singapore, Greece, Panama. You know, we're gone because you've got to clear your head. And we always said with all the people doing different things, sometimes,

we're your friends. We're the people that are on your side that, you know, love you and protect you. My wife, too, who's sitting in the audience. She said, I'm going to remember. I'm going to remember where were our friends, you know, so you know who you're friends. When it gets real, they dispersed.

Oh, yeah. And then when it gets better, you know, let's sit down for that meal. Let's travel together. You can't do that no more. But you know what? It's a great show. Pablo Escobar.

Right. And in the show, if it's real life, you pull out a little book, and he writes your name. He'd be like, yeah, you know, the man, the butcher, Pablo, disrespected your mother. He said, Pablo the butcher.

It could be a year later, Pablo the butcher going to creep up on you. They're going to get Pablo the butcher. And he always kept these notes. Rich is almost like that, Like Rich player, my brother, he won't forget nothing. Anybody do anything funny, Rich is like, I got him in the book.

I got him in the book. Oh, yeah. But I remember because times aren't, they're not always good. You know, there's not a straight line from being nothing, just growing up to who we are today. So you, like, I'm from the Bronx. You know, I see, you know, Cardi B. I see French Montana.

I see a buggy. I see these guys come out the Bronx, and I feel like it's always home, right? You're from Minnesota, right? What was that like when Prince was killing it? Did you feel like, yo, we got on Minnesota and Jimmy Jam? Like, what was that like? Oh, no, but even though I was by that time living in Los Angeles,

where I live now, you know, I'm very happy for them. You know, we became friends after Prince. I didn't get to know, but his music always listened to his music. And the music that I was listening to. And it felt like home. Like when you heard it, you was like, that's that Minnesota sound. Oh, yeah. And what Jimmy and Terry put together,

there are the other people I can just call up or whatever the case may be. But they helped so many people with their careers, you know, producing the music, Janet Jackson. SOS, man. My favorite band, S-O-S-W. Oh, yeah. Oh, we got, we can name a lot of people, even Lizzo coming out, you know, from Minnesota and everything. But, you know, it's a good place to be from, you know, because people would come up to me many times because I didn't have an accent or where you're from, man. You know, I could tell it wasn't Mississippi or Alabama or wherever, you know, Minnesota. Is it really?

But it was a good place where I grew up in my neighborhood was... A mixed neighborhood. They're a Rondo area. They ran the freeway right through the middle of the, you know, how they did that in the Bronx too. You read about it now. Yeah, they're right through the community because you can't do nothing about. What's that called eminent domain, right?

Yeah, yeah. Build it right over your house. Right. You know that? Get out. No, no, they don't give you no money. They just build the joint like over your house. Like your house, you're out.

Oh, yeah. So we're building something here. So I saw. All that happened, but the people I grew up with, whether I went to church, school, sports, it was always a mixed group. You know what I mean? So I never had a hang-up about people from a different religion or background and last name. Very mixed. Rudy Martinez over here, Charlie Noble.

I got Kevin Smith. You know, I mean, if you look at the pictures, that's the way I grew up. So I'm always, they talk of diversity or whatever. I think that whatever you do, when you include people from different areas of life, you're probably going to do better because they know what they're talking about. They've been there. You know, you see these corporations making stupid mistakes because, oh, I didn't know people weren't going like that with that black face on it or whatever or the language that you used

or whatever. You know, and we're in a messed up kind of a perilous time. I won't get into politics or anything like that. Listen, let me tell you something. This book is so valuable. Everybody go out there and go get touching all bases. For me, that's in my house. Today.

Out right now. I got you the first one. I got you the first one. Let me tell you something. I got a book from the Royal Family themselves in Dubai. I got some special books there. When I tell you that Dave Winfield going, right on top of the books right there and that.

And you're going to read? I'm reading. You're going to read part of the chapter. He used it for furniture. Did he do the audio? Did you do the audio? Dave, did you do an audio to it? Oh, yeah.

Also, I'm going to listen to your book. Okay, okay. On the flight. Are we toasting? 1,800, baby. Shout out to 1800. Oh, man. Dave Winfield, the book is called.

You know what? You know what? Come on, give me. The book. Dave, let me get it. Get that book over there. With you guys. Hold a book. Let me see that.

You got a hole it up. Touching all the bases, man. Wherever you get your books from, you can get it right now. Not now, but right now. Barnes & Noble's Amazon, wherever they sell books, my man don't read. He'd do the audio books so you can get the audio book also. Touching all the bases from the legend himself.

Big Dave, we love you, Ben. My brother. Bill. Hey. Ooh. Hey, that's the moon. That's the 18-100, baby. That's the 18-100. This ain't that?

That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for Dave. All the way up. All the way up. Every case has a story. Every victim has a voice. But will it be heard?

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