Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 226 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Scott Eastwood Et al.

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

This week we discuss Joe's podcast guests as always. Guest list: Scott Eastwood, David Lee Roth and Rick Doblin 5% of ALL SPONSORSHIP proceeds goes to Justin Wren and his Fight for the Forgotten charity!! This commitment is for now and forever. They will ALWAYS get money as long as we run ads so we appreciate your support too as you listeners are the reason we can do this. Thanks! Stay safe.. Enjoy folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. [e-mail] Follow Garrett on Instagram here: www.instagram.com/gloveone

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn. My heat every worse podcast with the best one. Two, one, go. Enjoy the show. Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE review joined as always by my right hand mag Garrett. What's up bro? What's up bros and bros etches? Okay, who we got this week? We got Scott Eastwood who took me about 30 minutes to realize that's clearly the eastwoods kid

That was embarrassing. He was meant. He was like damn Bells area and almost I thought what it ate how so I Don't know he's just well spoken. I he was well traveled. It's just young up and coming buff obviously. Oh, I see a lot of I thought you meant Just like you fucks a little women Buh obviously. Oh, I see a lot of I thought you meant seem like you fucks a little women No, I'm sure he does that too. I don't know if he's married, but he's Clint Eastwood's kid he's Pat Who else we got David Lee Roth and who is that scientist Rick Dublin Rick the Dublin Rick Dublin All right, so what what was your take on eastward's kid? I mean he's seen you know, you got to think his life is been

I don't want to say he's super privileged like that would be an assumption, but I mean It's definitely an unusual upbringing and I would imagine the kids of very famous actors have kind of a It's probably a very strange life. Especially in his case, like, you can always say who's the most famous, but of his era, it's pretty much Clint Eastwood and his prime is the man. So yeah, that's got to be, that's got to have some impact on your lifestyle and how you perceive life.

I think that he seemed incredibly grounded given the circumstances to be honest. I don't know the guy, but it seemed like he had a relative thought process and seemed pretty mindful of how he had it. And I mean, what he the vans were in a lot of respect. He was certainly good listener and good on the podcast. I mean, he wasn't acting like super entitled in the sense of Talking over Joe or like boasting about silly stories. Uh, I Like tell me talked about his pal like Joe started talking about Westerns And I don't know if you've engulfed yourself in Westerns. I really haven't what it made me kind of want to watch

A few more of his Westerns from back. I'm gonna throw that back. Yeah Yeah, I mean and to hear to hear Scott talk about it too a few more of his westerns from back. I'm gonna throw that impact. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, And to hear Scott talk about it too, I'd have his favorite ones. It's gotta be great. Like Washington, your pops and that's the thing too. It's like, you've got like actor friends watching them

commit to a character. It's like, like his friends were saying it. He's like, you are too good at that character. It's like, it's gotta be an interesting perspective to have to know the guy in the movie. Yeah, it would be weird, I think. I did like that. They were talking about Seraphin and whatnot and how that killer whale came up to him and

the underneath of his, they showed that video too. I don't know if you were privy to see that, but the video is surreal. Like the killer whales came right underneath them. Did you see that? Yeah, I did watch a bit of that video. You know, it's sometimes difficult because when my Spotify is connected to my car, obviously you don't get to watch the video. So sometimes I have to like, once I stop driving, go back to like get into it. I don't think I'd feel all that comfortable with those big ass fucking things. Can't they just like flip you like 60 feet in the air if they want? I mean, I don't know if you've seen those videos from fucking SeaWorld. That's the thing though.

It's like they had those ones in captivity. If you were to see like I don't think that kind of speaks human nature and how things evolve. And like if you're out in the if you're out in the wilderness, the the idea is normally peace like a lot of the thought. It's like when you capture something and keep it in captivity, that's when they start reacting in those. I don't know that. It's probably all situational, but I would like to believe if I saw a killer wear of maybe

just because it's like a pretty animal. I bet. Nice. Well, they talk about whales and how intelligent they are. So along with intelligence, I wonder if they can like they have a range of emotions as well. And if one of them's got like a real bad toothache, it might be having a bad day and they see us monkeys on a surfboard and they're just like, you know what, I'm just going to fire this bitch straight off the cliff. Just whack him. Fire that one up. Was that the same podcast they were talking about that orangutan?

Like, uh, basically raped that woman. Oh, yeah. I think that I think that was the same one they were talking about. The situation she basically just like had to take it. Otherwise, like, who knows those things are so strong. They could just like bite your fingers. That's terrifying. That's terrifying That's that's terrifying monkey Monkey rapes up there top five most

Like whether they just rip your arms off if they want to That's very strong. Yeah, it would be bad. All right, it's certainly bad. Did you watch the new guy? Richie movie that he's in I Didn't get to that one yet. Yeah, wrath of man. It's worth it worth it What well, I don't know. I mean that 20 bucks now to buy these things on YouTube I mean that you to go to a movie was what at most 12 13 But your finger that's four people 1213

But you figure that's four people Call it ten bucks. It's still 40 bucks if you bring the movie your house so they can watch that nice couch True I was so my own so Right, so like that's an expensive ticket Right, I remember during quarantine. I was like I'll splurge on a five dollar movie what You had nothing else to do Yeah, and then all of a sudden, now we have $20 movies coming out. And that's the new thing.

We made the market. We did it to ourselves, probably. It's good action. I'm not like a movie critic, but compared to other guy Richie Wands, I didn't enjoy as much as some of the some of the other guy richy movies are like snatched yeah and they do they do a lot of jumping around which this movie does but it's like they're really building the characters a lot and then there's a lot of banter back and forth and then they also does like these Montages that are kind of sped up where people are like grabbing things from different places and

blah blah blah and Yeah, it's just a lot of those elements were kind of messing but a lot of people got shot so if you just into That kind of action. Yeah, it's, it's, it's decent. I still like the John Wicks, but that my, at my age, I like to laugh a lot. You like to laugh a lot? I mean, I think those might go to genre at this point in life. I still like comedy. We were just talking about that at work, like watching horror films.

What you take on that. Oh, I don't care. They're not scary. Are they? Yeah. They're just like about that at work like watching horror films what you take on that oh I don't care they're not scary are they just like whoa we watch that's how I feel it's like and I don't really like to just and seem like a good habit to get into watching death all the time yeah for sure for sure. They kind of get into like the celebrity life and picking people around you, you know, because I guess when people want to know who you are because of like who your dad is or or because you're famous or you're just in the know like where Joe is, it really does highlight how important it is to pick good people. But I think the same rules apply in any area of life. And they talk about how badly humans can treat each other. And it's

almost like hate is encouraged in some way, like shit talking or putting people down it's uh I don't know it makes you think makes you think about I think without a doubt I've been more mindful about that I'd say like always having a opinion on other people and I think that comes back to being married to their ideas they said that you can always change your ideas and we beat on that a few times. But it seems like the people that you surround yourself with are, I don't know, I think now that I've gotten older, I've been a much better judge of character and as opposed to having an opinion on somebody,

I would just rather not associate. It's not that you have to associate with everybody. And if you choose the not, it's like, you don't have to have interactions and don you have to associate with everybody and if they if you choose the not it's like you don't have to have interaction Don't have to keep relationships that seem to be unhealthy or just not building you up Just let them phase out. I think it's the idea You don't I mean yeah, you don't have to have a sit down with them and be like I don't need you in my life Just stop hanging out with them exactly. It's just identified identify the piece of shit and just stop spending the time with him.

Yeah. Or just see what's beneficial and then, yeah, like you see, on the other side of the sit down, just don't return a few calls. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Or just say I'm moving on. Yeah.

I like a lot of what Joe was talking about as he opened up about the podcast, like getting into just like how big it is and Because of the Spotify deal like it kind of changed things like people know how fucking Mega rich he is now and his voice kind of travels so much further So he has to kind of deal with that and he's more responsible for the things that he says almost. But just the fact that he never promoted the podcast, he never ever said that.

I know, I already said that. I know. So wild that he was able to do this without any of that stuff happening. I think that's gotta be the most compelling thing about the show. Like the fact that it's not, it's all a word of mouth. I remember meeting you and I was like, do you watch show,

not like our first time interacting? I was like, yeah, I watch Rogan and you're like, just our whole connection was kind of based around Rogan from the jump. And I was like, it wasn't like I saw the billboard or I heard it. Yeah. On this and that, I was like, I just heard from my buddy. We both kind of knew the same thing. Yeah. And then we instantly know that we're both slightly me to heading. Like, well, you at least just on the same page.

I think that it's a certain culture of openness is the way I have associated it. And the fact that I think something kind of clicked today, granted this has always been going on, but people with that approach, things that they want to do, have a much better tendency of being successful over time. It's not going to be immediate, but if you do what you want to do and you're passionate about, today, I was just thinking about that on my stage. It's more about the why than it is the how, because it seems like the how will present itself if you find the why right yeah I mean look at the same point though it's it's hard to say right because he became very successful for doing this

but I don't know if there's a ton of other examples of people doing the same thing I mean Joe had a unique combination of skills. He was well known enough. So where you know, and he was just in a place that kind of made it work, but it is really interesting to see. Like even as we model this silly podcast that we do, it's like it would only make sense that we would follow those same patterns just for the sake of it. Like I don't care. I'm never gonna put an ad in somewhere or like really, I don't know. I'm just not gonna change like the way that I speak or say things as a result of any external factors because it just goes against a philosophy that I believe in. I'm like, no, this is often authenticity is not for sale.

I think it's what it does. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it may exclude us from running for office anywhere. I've been, a lot of people have been approaching me for presidency Dude apparently We're we're back to bar setting today. Today. I was at gold today I think I made mention this last time the mass thing was like semi-naught informed today It seemed like everybody was there like on a mission to not even wear the mask I go I know you guys aren't dealing with that bothzman, but here in LA it's been a lot of stuff. Yeah, that's a big stuff for you guys.

And I think today or tomorrow we're supposed to be able to, we're not able to, but I think everybody's just kind of realizing that this all is for show and it was, it's all a big fuck you. So I read all the restaurants and whatnot down by the beach or just like starting to do their own thing and be and like come We're not waiting till the fucking 15 for you to tell us that everything's yeah, that's so dumb What if they just saw it on the 15th? Why didn't they just say look? Let's just do it today like how did they just stamp there? Oh, here's a date

Dude, it just feels like they got these little fucking strings up here And they're like and I think Joe I don't know if it was on that one or the next one, but he's like None of these people have lost a dime throughout this whole process and they're all the ones up there like I What if that was the thought process how your community was doing was how much you got paid? as a mayor or governor or somebody in the civil Justice area that's supposed to take care of the community. What if it was like a reflection on your salary, how the state that you're supposed to

govern or mayor? Who do you think about the incentives and the thought process that that would go into this? You'd have to restructure your whole mindset like, what am I going to do to make my city thrive in this sims? Well, even going back to stuff that Joe's had to put up. And now he's big. Look at the two bits of controversy that's come around.

Him saying the young healthy people don't need to get the vaccine. Not saying they shouldn't, but just saying they don't need to, because they're healthy and young. Right? So that's valid. Right. And then it's valid, not saying that they shouldn't either. Like, you know, if you want to do it.

And if you're really concerned about getting other people sick, also do it, which is a reality. But then them themselves, they're not likely to die of it. Right? So it is just to help others herd immunity. Second, lab hypothesis theory that was like banned on Facebook for a while. Like Facebook is like no

We're not gonna show anything about this. It's like what are you doing and Joe brings it up And he becomes a conspiracy theorist and now it's like yeah, I'm not saying look look again Joe was right It's not that that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he's asking questions and not right not creating this weird censorship out of fear of others I'm sure that's why Facebook did it, but it's like now you're just promoting misinformation you dummies like Let me let me tell you my two experiences with COVID. I've already made reference I left LA went to Puerto Rico got a COVID test before I've already made reference. I left LA, went to Puerto Rico, got a COVID test before. COVID test came back positive when I came to Puerto Rico. Didn't change anything, didn't

do anything different. Next day took another test. Test came back negative. Flu back home, no problems. My roommate got the Vax so he could go back to work and not have to wear the fucking face shield. That was the quote of for his bar for what, a couple of days, because that was what was in the news. And then so he goes and gets the backs. He goes to, I don't know, some island, like a rubah or something. He gets the vaccination prior to.

We go and I get the test with him, walk through one of those wall greens, drive through nasal things. He gets to a rubah. The test comes back and conclusive. So now he's to a rubah the test comes back in Conclusive so now he's scrambling to get another test so he can get back this guy has the vaccination. Oh my god What the fuck is going on here? What are we doing on his bad? I have no faith Yeah, that's it. Dude, that's black. He's got the book. Look all I'm saying is we can't do this shit again

Do it that's wacky. That's the book. Look, all I'm saying is we can't do this shit again. We're gonna get a figure something else out. The next flee season can't be like, oh my god, you can't travel. Like it just seems like some big plan to stop people going anywhere. And I'm like, no, I'm not down with that.

I love going places. All right, let's jump over to David Lee Roth and the madness of this man like God bless him look legend clearly seems like a sweetheart he's done he's had a seriously eccentric life and he's about as eccentric as it gets but it was I don't know how the fuck Joe did it dude I had to turn the pot off at one point I was like this is kind of doing my head I watched that one this is kind of doing my head. I watched that one piece. It was like a constant one liner. He kind of reminded me my dad

and some respects. They're like a joke for everything. But he's well-traveled. He's probably had way more experiences than we could even fucking fat. No doubt. No doubt. Fascinating life. Yeah. The amount of books you could tell he was well read to us. When you say eccentric, like you talk about getting that tapping tattoo and then you go to Japan, I can't remember where he got that. Yeah, he, it was in Japan, was a lot of it. Because I think he speaks Japanese too and he lived there for a while. But I mean, yeah, all the people he's trained martial arts with, the fact that he

became an EMT just because, and then they were like, Hey, you want to do the rounds? And for four years, he's like the guy making coffee. I'm like, this is fucking David Lee Roth. Like how humbling and kind of beautiful is that whole experience. I think that Joe made reference to that too, because he's like, you're the most rock star, rock star, who does the anti-rock star? Yeah. Which makes it that which makes it that much more rock star. So maybe that's because it's what he's known for so long. I mean, but I'll tell you what, right? So training GJ Su and Santa Monica, Ricky Rocket was at our gym and he's the drummer for poison so you know he's older I don't think he's old as old as David Lurothas. No, he's not but he's like one of our highest

level black belts super nice guy you would just never know He never like he doesn't walk around like he's the shit. He's just kind and nice and excellent at training and just always will help you with techniques. And, you know, he does his little projects. And, and if you follow him on Instagram, he's like doing these like, I think it's like ghost hunting shows that he like puts together on YouTube, just like fun shit that he's into.

And it's cool to see that you know there's just no pretentiousness out of connection connection to humanity and whatever yeah he's he's not as eccentric and wacky as David though I'll tell you that much he's far more just like totally normal to talk to but but yeah it was so hard to follow me we just go off like he almost had these like cliche little sayings about everything and then end it was so difficult to keep track of it walking one liner but yeah the way he described his parents though that was such an interesting thing the way he said that they still sat down they called him Children, yeah, even into like the 60s. They had this 60s on time together like how was your day and that closeness?

That's probably yeah, probably a big part of what helped him stay is Grounded is my ground you can for someone that's so kind of out there It's not like he was talking about himself in the third version for a Fast majority of the beginning of it. He had a very preachy way of speaking like everything he's saying is like a universal truth and and a universal truth and not I don't know was it kind of dismissive almost towards Joe like look man you that's how it is don't you see it type of thing he was saying it he would he would always reference it to being like talking in poetry which some of it was you'd have to like read through

the words and some of it was kind of I mean a lot of it was but it was still like talking over Joe and just like you can tell Joe has respect for the guy, but he was yeah, I hear exactly Those tattoos with dope though, do you what do you look? I didn't see they are beyond sir I mean we're talking like you samurai shit and Really check it out impressive colors. I mean it it was a pretty intense Set of tattoos that that's the same kind of tattooing my brother does in England. He has a company. Oh wow yeah and Let me see what is Instagram is maybe I'll plug him but he has he has a time followers anyway, so he pray doesn't need this But he has a time follow is anyway, so he pray doesn't need this

You just write Kalam Hopkins K-A-L-U-M-H-O-P-K-I-N-S and he does all tap stuff Kind of all over England and he used to live in Barcelona. I think he learned it all in Thailand, I believe. This year, all the rally. Younger brother. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, it's really, really cool stuff. And again, I don't have any tattoos. And if I ever got one, I'd probably go to him,

and especially after hearing, you know, like seeing how dope those ones are that David Lee Roth got, I'm like, hmm, maybe. I'm the baby. I'm down to go I'm sure is it awesome yeah they're good right yeah he's excellent he was always drawing like as a kid like just constantly always drawing which I was always gave him a hard time about I'm like dude you need to learn math and it turns out he has a great business think that's that's it. So drawing did work.

But that's the kind of thing. Like all my brothers with the same way. It as me in that sense, we just did the things that we like unapologetically. It didn't matter how many times we heard from other people like, oh, you got to do it this way and you got to live that way. We just like followed what we want to do.

And they've all kind of landed on their feet with their different types of careers. It's impressive. All different things, but they all love it. It's all creative stuff. Yeah. I'm probably the least creative to be honest. Well, I think we all have it deep inside of us and I think that you have it to us just a matter of finding it. I was there was like a switch to that kind of clicked and I started thinking about things that I want to do as opposed to like have to do for a salary. It seems like now that I have a job and I have a means of getting an income. Now it's time to like start revving up and finding what it is I want to do and start living life in that kind of realm. What do I want to do as rather than surviving?

Because now that I have a adapt to this abundance mindset, it's like, I want to just kind of tap into what you just said. It's like, things come easily regardless of the avenue. You chew not necessarily easily, but you can be successful if you're not only is the word passion either. It's something you want to do. He just got a you got to have some name for well, I think it's a few things. I think it's a really good idea to get a hobby, right?

Because hobbies are likely to be things you're interested in. But do one that allows you to master a skill as a result, right? And I used to say this to Ash all the time because he was a personal trainer I'm like, okay, he's getting really good at personal training This is my body from England really good at personal training, right? So that skill, I guess you could master in the sense of what that process is But the workouts themselves are just yeah, you can get stronger But then your muscles get weaker as you get older and then you know you can't

do as much whereas with jujitsu you can actually you do that long enough I don't know if you're ever master it but you'll get really good at it so you're building like an incredible skill set so if you look at a hobby in that sense is like something oh if I do a little bit of this each week over the course of how many hours, 10,000, you can be an expert at it. And then you should be able to in some way sell that service and make it a job. And it's like you're putting yourself through school. So it's worth paying attention to that just for the sake of, like you're saying, like what do you want to do? Well, turning your hobbies into

jobs is probably a really good move for people because you already love doing it. I mean, I do. Isn't it? Isn't it interesting the perspective that we have as Americans he was talking about the 10,000 hour. I'm fucking English. What is that? Is that yours? What? No, David Lee Roth was talking about the Japanese saying that their mentality is 10 hours for, like, I can't remember what he said a day for 10 years or something like that. So over the course of whatever you have like 40,000 hours or something like that, like, it's quadrupled.

Oh, no, I don't. That seems like a lot, but you'll definitely get good at it with 40,000 hours. Yeah. That's a lot of time to put in something. And with that breaks down to in the years and so many. Let's jump over to the to the Rick Dublin one. First off, maps is an organization that I am a big fan of. They're working into the realm of like psychedelic therapy basically. So working with a licensed therapist

while doing psychedelics or MDMA or these different things to help you through past traumas or just deal with your depression or PTSD, those sorts of things. I have some friends here in Bozeman that are one that's a therapist that is moving into that line of work and will be working for maps. And then another guy who's there, special forces that and then another guy who's that special forces that works at a center that primarily helps retired military and express forces guys with similar processes to kind of guide them through PTSD and it's really cool to hear these pretty spectacular results and and just what this guy has done like how many years has he been fighting for this and he just seems really down to earth and cool and just kind of had this like patient vibe like hey it's gonna be eight more years but I think we got it I'm like this poor fucking guy's been trying to legalize this shit for like 30 years. He's fortunate though he had that upbringing that he did. His

parents being semi-supportive given the circumstances and being like 17 and I want to drop out of college and go he was like I need to be like I want to go study psychedelics. I think he said he built like a I can't remember what he said he built but he said he built like a I can't remember what he said he built but he said he built something with 3000 bricks in his parents like helped him do it. Remember did you hear that part of it? I don't remember that either way either way it was it was just like an enlightening experience for him to be attached more or less but he he was like my parents were super supportive. I dropped out of college in order to go study xyz I don't know how this is it's so interesting that the dynamic between the people that

are deciding what drugs are legal and what drugs aren't are people that haven't even tried the drugs in the first place. That does seem like a fatal flaw. If you want to pass a judge if you want to pass a judgment on something that's fine but at least have a fucking frame of reference. Yeah, I mean, I think the only time that would be acceptable is if the drug is clearly killing people or clearly very damaging your health, then all hyper addictive. I mean, it probably would be a bad move for people that want to make heroin illegal for

them to start trying heroin. But I mean mushrooms and MDMA is not doing that to people. So they probably should be required. Like, hey, you want to ban this? We'll run it through your system a few times. And then, and then tell us if we should make a new frame of reference. Then you have a frame of reference to be like, yeah, I think this is really going to damage society. Or you're going to be like, ooh, that was kind of insightful. That could help me, especially given like a circumstance or like an environment where it is, it is under supervision. And it is kind of trying to benefit because he made reference to that one situation where those two girls took MDMA and it was kind of subjective because of the one girl

was at like a rave and she had these thoughts come up from a previous like sexual encounter or something And she said the MDMA heard her because she couldn't express those feelings to her friend And she kind of bottled them down even though they had come up and a girl in a similar circumstance had a similar Like reoccurrence and had like some sexual trauma come up and she discussed it with her friend and she was saying how beneficial it was. They had the MDMA and the basis of that argument was like, you just have to embrace it. Like, if you're going to deny it, then that's going to be a, that's going to falter you. But if you embrace it and you do the whole thing through, you probably will see the benefits.

Well, they, they often say that about a problem, right? A problem shared is a problem. Have. So, right. It's one thing to, to be experiencing. That's a good, that about a problem, right? A problem shared is a problem have. So it's one thing to be experiencing. That's a good draw. That's a good. That brings up these memories that maybe blocked out. And then, you know, to protect you, I'm sure that's why you have memories that get kind of blocked out. And and then if you have nowhere for it to go, it's just popped up. And now you're

thinking about it without getting a chance to share it and get some feedback or just have someone know that it happened to you and not judge you for it and be supportive and and open up a conversation. Then I mean, it would make sense that it would be better. And that and that's the thing, right? I mean, he's not saying, hey, these drugs should be legal, so we can all just go and party. He's saying, actually, the most beneficial way for these drugs to be legal is highly controlled and under professional supervision, but the right supervision. You know, not the FDA saying, you need a doctor and a PhD and

scientists know just a therapist so many one understands, you know, your mind and emotions and can help you through the conversation that's coming up. I would love to do that. To be honest, it would be great to have so many of that was experienced and and had some kind of insight to ride the trip out with you per se. Yeah. I think that it could be very beneficial to be interested. I mean, he's saying that they're going to have thousands of centives, hopefully over the next few years.

They already have thousands of centives for the masculine. No, no, ketamine. That's it. They have ketamine therapy all over the country. Right. So hopefully they have these. And it's really cool to hear Dan Crenshaw working with Tim Ryan. Yeah. Like, look, I've always liked, I'm not a Republican, but I've always liked Dan Crenshaw on the podcast. You know, certain things he's pretty hard line about because you like, yeah, he's a Republican. He's making that point. But he's so, he's

very reasonable. He represents what I would want to see in any type of politician, a conversation, and the fact that he's pushing to have, you know, more funding for these, for the vets, so that they can get treatment. You know, he's looking at it not from a political, because this, this probably does push against

his own political ambitions, because it's to be hard to persuade a lot of Republicans that legalizing these sorts of drugs is a good move. I think I think Forsyte is one of his biggest strong points that he sees the end game and like how certain things affect. I mean, even in his book, you would talk about how minimum wage, raising minimum wage, and this, that, and the other how it affects certain things and how on outside it looks good in this, he sees the details.

But yes, to be bipartisan, and he was talking about how Dan Crenshaw and I can't remember the other representative on the line. Tim Ryan. Tim Ryan, he's like to have somebody that both sees the same situation, play out, and to have like an objective thought process is a step in the right direction.

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, the Navy SEA Foundation giving away the maximum donation amount of 50 grand maps, like they're not saying, hey, we're all military philosophy and that doesn't go with us. So we're just going to drug all these PTSD guys up. They're like, no, we want the best solution hands down all the time. And if the research is pointing that way, we don't care what it is. And you guys, they go against the dogma as long as it's take that's the way that everybody

in their whole world should think about it. It goes against the grain. Either way, if you're trying to take care of your family or your loved ones, it doesn't matter what the prescribed cultural thought process is, it's what makes the most sense. Yeah, it's what makes sense. And I mean, and that's the thing, like, you know, when he contacted D.A. to try and get, I can't remember what he said, he needed to get approved, they needed something done and the D.A. just kind of stole them and they have to take them to court and it's just winning. Yeah, it's just all these rules, loops and stuff to jump through. And the same thing with the FDA putting in all these requirements, basically making it

so expensive that these treatments can't even happen. It's just like, what are you trying to gain from this? Are you just being asked holes or like, that's what it, that's you trying to gain from this? Are you just being assholes? Or like- That's what I got out of it. I don't know, man. It makes you mad when you hear things like that. Have you done MDMA? Yeah, I did that when I was younger.

Yeah. It's great. I saw no negative benefits. I mean, yes, the next day, if you're doing it, and normally what I noticed too, is that I was obviously encompassed with a lot of other substances. and and really seem to be a whole lot of negative to it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I only ever did it like on its own. Like I wasn't drinking or putting anything else in my system with it. And it was like in the rave scene back in like 2000,

you know, like after high school. And it didn't really ever affect me too heavily. I would be tied the next day, but it wasn't really ever affect me too heavily. I would be tied the next day, but it wasn't like God was it was like pretty Pretty like I was I was lucky. I was did it with good people and good environments and It was just good times. I mean, there's a lot of responsibility that comes with these things because

Just good times. I mean, there's a lot of responsibility that comes with these things because You could probably do it with a wrong crowd or in the wrong environment or try doing something stupid like driving or Something complex that you shouldn't be but I mean given the right environment. I mean, yeah, you can't have a bad You know, I was once I was like it's only You know, I was once I was like it's only promoted stronger relationships and tighter bonds to be honest Not to sound like a hippie, but that's what I've kind of experienced. Yeah, hearing that he had that chemist Make him a kilo of it for four thousand dollars and it's the purest of ever and it lasts like how long 30 years 40 years And he's not and he's still never tried it. He's Joe was not he said he's got a deal. He said he got a kilo and a half So I'm wondering is that like 3.1 pat 3.3

Well that's that's how much the chemist said that he made I Don't know if he gave it all like sold it all the brick or what the deal was but He just has that said in a box somewhere or what? I don't know, a better thing in a safe if anyone finds that. Okay. He's gonna be a huge rave. But yeah, we'll see.

Did you hear that reference when everybody was trying to talk about how they would spray acid over the top of the soldiers? Oh, go. And they would just drop their guns. He's like in theory that might work, but that would take a lot of the soldiers. Oh, go. And they were just like dropped their guns. He's like, in theory, that might work. But that'd take a lot of ass. Yeah. And I don't know. That kind of chemical war fuzz.

Crazy. I mean, it is pretty. It is nefarious to hear what the government is trying to come up with to take people out. I mean, who knows. It's not pretty stuff. It's, it's just easy to not trust what the government's up to. You know what I mean who knows it's it's not pretty stuff. It's it's just the easy did not trust Well the government's up to you know what I mean Well, it's good thing I can trust you, but all right. Well, I'm not the government Well, that's gonna be it. That's a wrap for this week a bit of a shorter one this week, but Yeah, that's how it goes Thanks as always for for listening to us rambalon and enjoying the Rogan pods with us. Write a good review if you want, we appreciate that.

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