Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 228 Joe Rogan Experience Review of David Sinclair Et al.

Episode Date: June 23, 2021

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other day. Was that showtime? I don't even know. But so Anderson Silver came back and fought someone that I should remember but I cannot remember his name. And I thought it was going to be another one of those kind of ridiculous exhibition fights. And you know Anderson was going to look like a fool and it was just going to taint his legacy. And just be a mess, just be something that nobody wanted to see. But I don't know if you guys have seen that fight, Anison did it amazing. It was unbelievable. It was almost like watching Old Anderson, but just as boxing. It was so cool. I was so impressed and so happy to see the whole thing. I wish I would have known about that to be honest, I didn't catch one to that, but he's a step you could probably catch some yes snippets on YouTube or something

But dude, it's worth watching. I was super impressed. I'm like holy shit Anderson still got it. For sure still got it. All right. Let's jump in Joe's podcast 1667 Annie Letterman Annie has been on a few times. She's a fucking hilarious comic. She is She actually has a really funny podcast. I mostly only see snippets of it on Instagram, but it's really good nice You know who she is are you familiar? No, no, I do I do I haven't seen any of her stand up and She was trying to give Joe shit about the homeless situation in Austin, right? Like that being a problem and Joe is like get out of here with that. Right. It's kind of funny. What? It's kind of interesting how he talks to her like he's almost like a father figure to some extent.

Like a dad. Well, what does she keep calling him the king? Yeah, right. My king, that's a good point. That's cool. What do you get the king? That's hilarious. Yeah, right. My king. That's a good point. That's what do you get the king? That's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, it's just interesting seeing their dynamic and how they communicate. He kind of I feel like his it's just good to see everybody on there. Always so gracious and we've like we've made reference to it before. It's kind of like he's set a lot of these people up to be successful. You know, even the smaller acts like he put some on. Yeah, for sure, but you know, it's not like that, like he sees them doing the work. Like you even hear her talking about, you know, not making any excuses.

Right. You know, it all starts with like working, working well, like it's too easy to complain. And that's always just a waste of energy. Like she has the right attitude when it comes to putting in that work. And that's what Joe's always looking for. It seems like. Yeah, that shines too. You know, and people are going to be successful. That's, I mean, we were talking about that video about my brother and saying, you got to have the mindset prior to, you know.

Hmm. Yeah, for sure. She mentioned that she was listening to a podcast of someone called Jim like Fortin. Jim Fortin or something? Not in Norton, right? No, he's like one of those life coach. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and after they after she talked about it because she had a lot of good things to say I was like this really helped me and like changed my life and all this so I Downloaded a few of his podcasts and listen to him that pretty interesting. I don't know if it's like my cup of tea

But but that's the thing right like for me to be like oh this doesn't work for me I'll give it two stars right is. His bullshit because it works for her. It could work for someone, you know. It's funny what how people draw upon different information and different personalities and different characteristics and people that either relate to or don't relate to, but can inspire them, you know. It's funny that I was thinking just before you call it, I was looking at my algorithm on Instagram and I don't know if you call I was looking at my algorithm on

Instagram and I don't know if you just go through those reels ever But it's mine's just like a workout video an inspirational quote and then some crazy dance move or something like that And it's over and over and over again. I'm like that must be what I'm seeking out, but it's like I can never get enough of those inspirational videos like you you got to see through them and pick and choose the tidbits that you take from it, because who knows who the hell is saying it, but at the same time, it's like, you can build your own future. I mean, it takes the... Yeah, that algorithm does kind of work like that. That does bring up an interesting question.

Why, there's always women falling off rope swings on mine. Is that what you've been doing? No, that way. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. I usually have some kids getting hurt. Or a kid trying to do a back flip. Yeah, kids get hurt. You know, and just like smashing his head.

Right. You're like, oh, we have that chive TV on in my work now. And it's like, that stuff never gets old for some reason. I can watch that all day. Dude, that's one of the most addictive channels ever created. Right? It's unbelievable how it digs. I'm like, where do they have all these videos?

It's like, it's just one after the next to it. I never feel like I see the same video. It creates zombies in the bar. It's true. It really does. If you're a phone dies, you're like, oh, don't worry. I got chive TV. Right.

It's like directly in my line. It's like directly in my line of sight, too too I was like walking around with a huge grin on my face watching people smash their face in the pools and shit you just sat there like oh you're like alright it's good good enough you that guy right now all the I was surprised to hear that uh Annie does jujitsu. I would have never guessed that. I guess she didn't do a ton over you know, COVID time because you just can't but... She was like, it's so sick. Impressive that she's so into that. And then to like, it's always cool to hear the female perspective of like what they get out of jujitsu. You know, in like learning just how to move

your body, like learning to move, like getting that confidence with how you position yourself, it's just it's pretty interesting. I like hearing that. You would obviously say, you're obviously a much bigger practitioner, but you're jitsu, I mean, you're talking about positioning and what not literally, but think about it in like real life, could you say jitsu relates to real life in a lot of ways? Well, I mean, there are parallels you can draw from it that are useful. Like number one, anytime you look at learning something that you're not good at, that can put you off, right? That can like pull your confidence away and be

like, oh, I suck a math or I suck a writing or I suck a stand up. Like I'm just not good at it. But then with Jiu Jitsu, you're always not good at it when you start. You never know what you're doing. And then you look at the black belts and you're like, I'll never be that good. But then you talk to the black belts and you're like I'll never be that good But then you talk to the black belts and you're like well, you always this good. They're like no, I didn't know shit I just did it. I practiced. I got better. I never quit. I just kept going and then you take that Philosophy once you start learning something maybe you get the blue belt and then you know like look This this has been this story's been told a million times, but that's what you're doing. Right.

And then you're like, oh, I could learn other things this way. I just got to practice, be consistent, not beat myself up when I don't do well, and don't expect to be good at it. Maybe never feel good at whatever you're doing, but you, you fucking will get that's a, like, you're going to get better at anything you do a lot. That probably relates directly now that you're saying the way you just said it. Like that seems to be the formula for a good standup comedian. If you have talent or funny, you're just gonna have to stick with it, you know.

It's yeah, it's very similar. I mean, in a lot of ways, I mean, being funny helps kind of naturally, but if you're just like funny at parties and you don't practice, the craft enough and you don't put everything into it, you're gonna suck on stage. But you could not be all that funny at parties, but just work your ass off at the craft and you're gonna improve. You're gonna get to a point where you're

You know you've got a good five minutes a good 10 minutes and you're really honing it in and other comedians are starting to notice like you because a lot of times It's just noticing that hustle Like you see people that I remember seeing people that when I first started out. I was like, oh my god They suck. They're never going to be good, but they were at every single open mic. They would go to the ones that I just didn't have the energy for, that hustle was like way more than mine, and they started to improve. And like all of a sudden, they start having sets that are just really doing well, and I'm like, holy shit, that's what they did. They just really put it in.

That's one place that you can see a huge transformation. That's an entertaining thing to watch. Yeah, for sure. For sure, watch like that. Watching people grow at anything, it's amazing, especially over the course of time you see people. And that's part of losing weight or getting good at the guitar, being a professional golfer.

It's like you see the people that are putting in the work. It's going to be reflected. There's a natural talent there, but you got the home that talent in order to come and fruition. Yeah. And also, you got to let people do their work. Like they talk about on that podcast, how Tony Hinchcliffe got in a bunch of trouble

for saying something that came across as a racist. Well, he's working on a bit. Right. There are many. He's working on a bit right there Men he's working on a bit. He's trying to hone it out. You got a like that's that's their workouts That would be like somebody coming into the gym and watching you Using maybe kettlebells for the first time and judging your overall understanding of Fitness based on you learning how to do this. You know, like I'm just, I'm starting out, like I'm just getting this down.

Not the Tony starting out, like he's an excellent. I mean, he's got to work those bits. He's got to have freedom to do it. It's this, it's chaos. Did the people give him shit for that? It, I think you made reference to Patrice, too. He said, Patrice had a great line. He said, whether you're making fun of somebody this way, or you're being self-deprecating about yourself,

he's like, it all comes from the same place, right? Yeah, yeah. Whether joke is good or bad, it comes from the same place from the place of wanting to make you laugh. Even if you fuck it up, and you're like, whoops, okay, that didn't work. I made, I sounded like a dick. You gotta learn from your mistakes. Move on.

Yeah, I mean, what are people expecting? The jokes are perfectly crafted before you come out. They just don't understand what is going on if they think that's the case. That's chaos. Crazy. It's my works. I think it's a character thing too.

You've heard Tony talk and you've heard Louis talk And you know who these people are I mean not personally and I don't know who they are behind closed doors But I think you can get a good feel for people's character a little bit and it's like It's just like we're trying to cancel people to cancel people because the opportunity arose Especially when it comes to comedians. It's like fuck. That's what I want is people being Ranshi and over the top and edgy and like, that's how you find humor. Yeah, well, look, if you want to cancel a comedian for something really fucked up, they did in their private life, like Chris DeLia, I mean, there's the, I'm not, I'm not like condoning or saying he's guilty or any of

those things, but like those actions and allegations are serious and if you want to condone, you know, cancel him for that as a comedian, then in a way, it makes sense, right? Because he did something that might be illegal and that's not good. But canceling them for working on their act is nonsense. You can't ever do that. That doesn't make any sense. That's not gonna fly. Right. Yeah. I'm getting worked up.

I'm getting worked up, bro. Yeah. Upsets me. It's upsets me. Hey, let's jump over to 1668. Crystal Ball, and how do you say this guy's name? I thought it was Seron. Seron, I don't know exactly. How do you say it? I think it was Seron. Seron? I don't know exactly.

How do you say it? I think it's Seron. I'm going to look it up. And Getty. Anyway, these guys are great. They're from the breaking points. And they do a lot of media reporting. They were originally from the Hill, is that correct?

I believe that. I think so. that's right. And that's when they were like, with jumping shit. Right. They went fully independent and it's so nice. Dude, hearing all the backing about how Huawei has interest in everything and all that like Chinese fucking interest groups is like nerve-racking. You know what I mean?

It's like how the fuck do you decipher a through? Who's best interest as at heart? And just seems like, oh, it's always follow the money, right? Yeah. If there's any moral of that story, it's like, if you're going to affect my money, you're not allowed to say certain things on the show. So it's like to have an unbiased show that need to be on their own platform is like, there's no way

to avoid it. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's impossible to say that anything could be completely unbiased, but as media like so many media outlets seem so biased now that anything that's even a little bit kind of like straight talk is refreshing. Yeah, you're like, okay, I'm like I'm more likely to trust you. And the fact that now their show is all theirs, nobody controls it. They follow the reporting that they want. It's almost like old school reporting, like what you'd hear back in the day, where the reporters like go deep under cover,

and they're like, working on stories for months. Right. Where you actually all of a sudden it comes to paper right and makes it like they're doing it to like solve a problem rather than pick an agenda yeah yeah instead of like oh this took me 10 minutes and I came up with the best click baby bullshit you can imagine right what did he say he says says, they were talking about aliens or something. I'm sure we'll get into that. But he was like, one of the reports read the first line was like, there is no evidence to say that there are aliens. And then the next sentence is like, and there is no evidence to support that there are not aliens. It's like, what are we doing? Like, well, the bet, do you ever get those fucking headlines the pop up and it's like it's straight up says can you believe this Thing happened in this picture and you go to it and there's not even a the picture. It's like me neither

Yeah, I guess I don't believe it either. Why do I even look? How does this get on my phone? Right? It's yeah It's so bad. It's real. The Colbert, did you watch the Colbert video? I heard, they were make, that sucks so bad. I had, I remember listening to the Colbert, I had like four double discs, and I listened to his whole like rhetoric about politics prior to him being,

I mean, it kind of just, yeah, exactly, it correlates to what we're talking about. Now you're, and now you're this huge Biden lib, and it's like you have you have to say things that Coralate in our in line with your network otherwise you're gonna get canceled you're gonna get fired and it's like yeah What the fuck he was so much better when he did the Colbert report? I haven't seen the show was Amazing it was he was such a brilliant character on that show and going over to the late night

It's like okay, whatever he makes a lot of money, but I don't care to watch it But having John Stuart on there brave enough to like just rip through it all and say it came from the lab Duh and John Stuart's his liberals against I mean it was put it was brilliant He's like and hilarious I didn't realize the name of the fucking lab was like COVID whatever He's like is that weird if there was a chocolate outbreak and Hershey whatever Well, I was like yeah, what are we doing dude like get out of here. Yeah, hello the fact that we didn't even I didn't raise and I it came it comes down to this whole fucking past year just happened to be

Fuck Trump no matter what it takes no matter what it is It's language that we use and if you don't use the right language You're either for Trump or against Trump and if you're for Trump and fuck you and if you're against them We're gonna find something wrong a little later on down the line with what's wrong with you But thanks for agreeing with us now And look I get it man. I get why people didn't like him, right? That's no secret at all, but but a what cost? You know a what cost the cost of of real science or like focusing on what's actually happening and what's important

I mean look I'm all I'm all for like hating politicians. Don't get me wrong. If you don't like him, please, by all means, you know, I mean, Trump said some crazy shit that no one can deny that. But, but, but to completely blind yourself to trying to track this thing, I mean, really, I just feel like we're gonna be super unprepared for the next one, because they're just gonna flood us with misinformation and nonsense.

Have us look in the other way, like look at the market over there where they eat bats. You're like, wait, what? Who the fuck is eating bats? I mean, let's just, from now on, like I think we, I don't want to say that thoughtful people out here have already known that they've been lying to us and following a money. Like we said, their only job is to get reelected.

They're not out here to help the communities. They're not out here to bring up the cities and be people in the community. They're there to get reelected. That's their job to keep getting paid. And once you have that set up as the standard for people in politics, there's going to be corruption. There's going to be Yeah, you already know. Yeah, I know. I know man. I know it works me up This is why I don't like to get it like the most in the politics I get is when I'm either listening to Rogan show Or something big enough happens in my community that I'm like, oh, I should talk about this on the pod.

But every time it just upsets the shit out of me, I really do feel like that guy in the Matrix when he says ignorance is bliss. I like, I'm like, yeah, make sense. I get it, bro. What's your thought? I mean, that brings me to my other place. Yeah, I always, it's not like a Tibetan monk mindset, but it's like desire is the first fucking sign of like, I forgot what it was like, unhappiness or unfilament, whenever

you desire something more, it's like, you can spend your whole life like one more, but it's like, what are you going to do? You got to just control your own life and make the decisions you're going to make. Yeah. Politically. Well, if you try and control your outcome too much, you're probably going to set yourself up for disappointment And it might not have even been the thing you wanted anyway if you look back on your life It's like oftentimes I'm like, oh, I want to do this or I want to go there

I want to do this and it didn't happen because of circumstances and something else pops up and Then you end up meeting the girl or your dreams you're like ah this was better or whatever you know what I mean like you don't you I don't I really do believe that we as individuals don't necessarily know what's best for us I don't think so either and I mean some what if you go right and you go left sometimes and you get whacked by a car you fucking meet the girl your dreams like you said it's who knows and that's's why I'm curious about coincidence or, I don't know, it's funny too. I remember this is on the next pod, we'll get to that.

But he says something about, I don't believe in miracles. And I'm like, the only people that believe in miracles are people that believe in miracles. Right? What do we fuck? I mean, you don't believe in miracles. OK, miracles aren't happening. It's all science.

I get that, but it's like, I don't know. It's just an interesting concept. Do you believe in miracles? I don't even really know what that means. I don't either. Like, I don't know. Like, what is a miracle? I feel like.

Is it something that the physics can't explain? I mean, you can look at that from so many different perspectives. Is it a miracle that I'm blind and somebody else isn't, like, if you really want to break it down, like, that's a miracle because I can see, I mean, I don't know. Or maybe that's just the physics, too. I guess.

And so, it's all introspective and based on your own. Yeah, I don't know where you're going with that, but I don't know. I mean, you're lucky. You're lucky than a blind person. If you like to see, maybe the blind person doesn't want to see. He's like, fuck it. I got great hearing. That's true. I'm a DJ.

Maybe. Yeah. I do not know. You don't know. I mean, like, what's his name? Who's the blind guy, Steve? I don't know. I don't know piano guy Uh

How Steve you wonder wait, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, Stevie wonder right? I mean if he wasn't as good at what he was doing if he could see right because maybe his like he was still Hearing just got so toned and like made everything that way. I mean, you know, for him as a kid, maybe he was like, yeah, I want to see, like I don't want to be blind. And then it turns out he's one of the greatest musicians of all time. Yeah, that's interesting.

He knows. That's crazy. You know that Ray Charles story, too, right? He like signs. No, I don't. I got to watch that. Didn't, uh't the only reason I know that is because yeah Jamie Foxx played him and out of young age he

witnessed his brother die like die I can't remember it was super traumatic and you like witness his brother die and from that point on he like couldn't hear anymore or see I'm sorry couldn't see you know, what? He was he was deaf too You couldn't see but it's crazy that the brain can do that to you see the most traumatic thing You've ever seen in your life, and it's like all right shut down. Oh No shit, that's what happened. I got a watch out. I'm gonna put that on my list and watch that for sure They talked about the Fauci emails connected to like the lab release like the I didn't know a lot about those Like he's saying to the masks were bullshit and then also it's connected to his lab stuff

It gets more money pumped into it and like where is all that money coming from You know taxes are gonna go through the roof for sure. And then, you know, and then jump it on to like China's influence. Like that shit scares me. They've been talking about that a lot and it's like, wait a minute. How much power does this country have over us? And a weird spot pop up billionaires are just being funded by the Chinese government and like basically just being fake people that are helping us invest that are actually the government It's like how do we know all this and it's still going on like it's the twilight zone

I don't know it's all money again. That's what it comes down to but it's like You're you're just messing with the people in the community for a financial gain at all times That's what our political system is based on right? You're not out here. I Don't I'm too dumb to know I don't know you want to believe that you get into politics with this idea that you want to like help the community and Change certain things and health care and education and these things they were talking about Obama and he was saying how He still help holds Obama in this light and they both are a lot more critical. And again, I'm too dumb to know one way or the other, but it is interesting hearing them say that,

I mean, you run on all these political platforms that I'm gonna do this that, and the other and get people out of Iraq and get people out of Afghanistan as like my political agenda. And then you get in there and you're compromised by lobbyists and by your own party. So you make these decisions.

And it's like, there's no reason for it. You know, it all comes down to mind. Yeah, I guess I guess the real question then is like, what the hell do we hope for? Like, what is the best that we can hope for from a politician knowing they're going to change these views anyway? Is it like, oh, get as close as you can to what you're hoping you'll get? And not really expect it.

It's like, if you thought about dating that way, you'd never have a relationship. You're just like, oh, all these things look really good and then you get with them and they don't do it. They completely change. You're like, fuck. That was a completely bamboozled. I got to imagine that would show it's face early on.

But yeah, it's unfortunate that that's how it's done. With Joe said something really interesting on the money side, right? So they're talking about these billionaires, why they push, why they want on this money. Right. And that's a question I've thought about a lot. What keeps them just going and pushing and going? And Joe's a question I've thought about like a lot like what keeps them just

going and pushing and going and Joe's kind of in that space you know he's like worth at least a hundred million right and still making boat loads of cash. So and he talks about having these dreams where he's falling off and he says I think it's due to his success. And the fact that, you know, there's not many people at that level to like understand what that's like. And he's obviously getting so famous now, like who wouldn't recognize him somewhere? Yeah, he makes reference to Elon too. He's like, Elon's probably struggling. He's's like he know he doesn't desire the money Ultimately, he's if you're talking he like he says whenever he talks to him privately and has those conversations He's trying to get to the moon. He's trying to help the human race but at the same time. It's like you're

Everybody's gonna be highly critical of you just from the human nature standpoint for some reason watching other people be successful It's like something there's something in our brains. that's like pull them back down it's like that crab in the bucket theory you know what I mean like pull that motherfucker back down it's like well it's easy to hate a billionaire yeah most of them weird so it's reasonable have you seen Bill Gates dance can anyone trust someone the dance dude that's that's pretty, I mean, it's funny, but it's like, think about how you could compromise that guy. Like, like they say, I'll respect the Bill Gates, I don't know him, but fuck, dude, like you could be probably Wambuzel by a few hot ladies.

Yeah. Right? If you had never gotten anybody's attention your whole life other than the nerds, it's like, you get some a few hot girls in there and you might be a little compromised that's just like part of the DNA. For sure. For sure. You know, I think that's that is, I mean with all of this and take Joe's show right, like he makes a point to say that look I don't care about having celebrities on.

Right. I care about having people I like to talk to. And obviously, he enjoys meeting some celebrities. Interesting people, ultimately. But yeah. Yeah, but it's like, he wants to talk to them. Right. Right. But he also talked to just someone, like, there's a lot of people we've never heard of. Yeah. And they're often, like, the more interesting parts. I have to be honest like when certain celebrities go on I'm not all that pumped to listen to that podcast Because they they're not a specialist in different areas like you often are gonna learn less

And that's usually what keeps me engaged. They just kind of talk about their career and it's like a Ted talk of their life Random in your life, okay cool random celebrity experiences and whatnot. Yeah Yeah, but you know for that reason he's not like thinking oh we get this celebrity on that I push my numbers that have Make the show grow that have make me more money like that would you we would notice that right away That would definitely fuck with this show. Right. Well, he was making reference to Howard Stern doing that directly, correct? I don't know, but Howard Stern. That's right. Yeah. There was some, some meeting he had where he was like trying to get all the celebrities. So we'll get our numbers on or like, that's

what's so crazy. It's like, we are so enthralled by these boxing matches with celebrities and other random folks. It's like, it almost brings it down by these boxing matches with celebrities and other random folks. It's like it almost brings it down to normal people level. But when you realize this is all people doing the same shit with a little bit more light on them. Oh, for sure. All right. What did you think about the when they were talking? What was it they were talking about?

Your three times is likely to be audited by the IRS if you make less than 25 grand a year. Right. He's like, isn't it crazy? That's fucking crazy. Dude, that is insane. Well, yeah, the system they have in place is set in place for a reason, right? Like it's to keep the rich richer and keep everybody else at bay. And that's not me being cycle, but I really believe that the people in top are like, I don't want to let this go. And that's what we're going to keep supporting when it comes to like the bills and what not they get past. Well, I, it may be, I don't know if it's as nefarious as that.

I mean, it might be what they were saying. Like, the people that don't make a lot of money can afford lawyers, so they can't push back. But very wealthy people are going to be able to get a lot of lawyers in and protect their assets So it's like just easy to mess with People on the low end, but but something Joe said Like that resonated because he was like, okay, so if someone's like hiding a thousand or two thousand You know, we've worked in bars. You know how it is with tips and shit It's like if that happens and the IRS

Fought through it all how much are they even like how much are they paying the person to look at right? Is it like a total net loss then it's like what are you even doing? What's the point well? It's all for it's all for show, right? I mean that seems to be that's what it comes down to Right X amount of people have to get stupid system. Oh my gosh. I mean if the IRS can't even pay for itself Yeah, well, they were talking seems like a bad setup. They were I didn't totally understand what they were talking about how you long Was taking loans and living off the loans right now as opposed to his own income? Did you understand? Yeah, I didn't I didn't understand that now. I wish I did But I I have no idea how those billionaires make their money.

I guess he takes loans out against his own stock and then pays himself on that somehow and then pays it back with stock. It sounds like he's got a good stock, but yeah. You agree in how to be a billionaire, don't understand that. All right, let's take a quick break and jump over to David Sinclair. This podcast is brought to you from our friends over at the Highbrow Drivel Podcast.

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download your podcast, listen to his interview with Edward and enjoy. I think one of my favorite pods I've ever had that we've ever listened to for me. I just finished now and I'll be like, I really enjoyed it. There are so many things that I draw out and like drew from him that were just inspiring and at the same time, like he's a scientist, I couldn't totally relate to him, but the way he was just communicating was very enlightening and very refreshing, you know. Yeah. He's come back. Well, he's been on, I think he's been on maybe twice before, at least one time, I remember reviewing him, and he had a ton of information, right? so This time he kind of was more brought like last time it was almost like you needed a

Spread sheet afterwards to know all the shit that you needed to take he talked about a resveratrol the first time he was on which is Something you get from wine and that's supposed to help with Living longer and then he talked about NMN, and maybe a few others. This time he talked about a bit of that, but mostly it was like general health stuff. Eating one meal a day, intermittent fasting stuff. I do think you could get enough calories in in one meal? How big is that meal?

I mean, at this point, like I was hearing their habits and whatnot. I normally have pretty similar habits. I might not be waiting until 6 p.m. to eat, but it's been pretty consistent me wait until 2 just because I wake up, have coffee, and that kind of suppresses my appetite. And then I go to the gym and workout on an empty stomach. And I don't have a whole like huge desire to eat. Even when I go to the gym and work out on an empty stomach. And I don't have a whole, like, huge desire to eat. Even when I go super hard, I don't know what it is, but it's like a few hours after then, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna need a meal just to get through otherwise. I'm gonna be out of energy, but it's...

What do you do two meals a day? I do. I'd say two meals a day is pretty regular. I haven't been to the grocery store in a while. It's how old are you now? You're 38, 38, 39 in August, 38, 39. Okay. I do feel like I'm in. And you're, you're pretty fucking jacked for that. I feel like so however you're eating must.

It was so night. Well, I, I hate to say this and I know this goes against proper thought. It's not like I'm eating trash, but I think you can outwork your diet as long as you're not eating chips and you're just on, you're eating all foods. You can think you can outwork your diet as long as you're not eating chips and as long as you're eating all foods you can you can sustain. But you know every junk food I thought you were an ice cream guy. I'm a huge ice cream guy, but it don't bother you. I'm a huge ice cream guy, but it don't bother you. That's what I'm seed.

My point is when I point is I'm I'm walking proof that you can outwork a bad diet, but not necessarily a bad diet. I do it and oh you can have a few bits of drink. No, I'm just saying I get a live live, but everything in moderation, right? Yeah, I'm mostly two meals a day. I do like a breakfast at lunch. Oh, yeah. I do like that's how I do it though. My whole I'm up at six, so I don't usually eat till about noon. Right. It's just coffee in the morning and I'm telling you right now It's an obscene amount of coffee. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if that's good or if it is probably fucks in my sleep I am I

Must drink like tank coffee Street motor oil like It's just I'm nothing else just black coffee and I definitely drink a pot myself But it's just part of my like daily waking up. I don't think it's just nothing else, just black coffee. And I definitely drink a pot myself, but it's just part of my like daily waking up thing. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's good. It's beans and hot water all time. As long as you're not throwing. I sleep okay. It's funny when he was like, but then yeah, then I eat a meal in the evening. And it's big. That one's always like a huge

meal. And then it's like, you one's always like a huge meal. And then it's like you got it. I think they're right about you got to eat before you go a long time before you go to bed at least like four or five hours. I is ideal. I don't really normally do that, but that seems to be the ideal time. If you can. Yeah, maybe that's where I get a job. I don't really do that. I eat pretty late. How's your sleep? How's your sleep? How's your sleep out of curiosity? It seems okay. My whoop, my whoop strap. You know, it seems okay. I get a good amount of sleep. My REM sleep is not always that high.

Usually around an hour. I think they say that you should be getting two hours. I don't know, I never remember my dreams. So I don't know what's going on with that. Interesting. I had a pretty vivid one last night. But yeah, they gave me some inspiration to know that you could be that with the things that you're doing obviously can

Be longevity for your life But they can also like reverse the aging like people say that not I say that jokingly like I'm Benjamin button But I'll tell you what being 38 right now like I've never felt better in my life Like I've been saying that since I was 26 just to be honest, just because like they make reference to that post workout feeling, I'm addicted to that feeling and it's become an addiction to the point where it's like I feel like a trash bag if I don't do it. Like I can't go days without doing it. Otherwise, it's like I'll get down severely down.

Yeah, well workouts, I mean, it's no doubt. I mean, that's probably the one thing with anti-aging we've known for a long time. But it's cool, somebody like David is putting it together. You know, they're talking about the hyperbaric chambers, doing a bunch of those, extending your telomeres, and he wants to, he wants to start doing his own research into that to really find out what that means. And then he's talking about that clock that he wants to create. Oh yeah, yeah. It manages your biological age. It does it in a very specific way.

Was he saying that was available now in some degree? He was like, I could rub a swab in your nose and tell you he's like, you would probably be like a younger person, Joe. He's like, I could show you that. That's a real thing That's going on right now or did I miss interpret that I guess it's like early stages though I mean remember he's the researcher and Joe has access to I don't think it's like you and I could get No, I'm I'm with you, but I see that but maybe yeah, maybe the technology's there. He said he's still working on figuring out this

thing that really measures the age, but who knows, given five so more years, we might have this. I mean, we're certainly going to have it within our lifetime. It's all what do you think about that metform in business like that medication that you can get? I love it. I think that that's going to do. And whenever the one, I think that you're making reference email and Joe was talking about just taking 10 simple breaths, we've talked about it too. It goes so far to be mindful and to just take a breath. Like, it sounds so simple, but you ask somebody

if they meditate and nine out of 10 people are gonna be like, no, I can't do it. And I'm like, you can't sit still for 10 minutes. And if you would've asked me that, if you would've asked me, meditation is not. And if you would have asked me that if you would have I was gonna say if you would ask me meditation is not If you would have think you just sat there. It's hard. If you would have asked me that a year ago I probably would have said I can't do it either But it's like once you do it once and you take the time and you realize that once you just focus on in and out

Just like he's it's so is interesting to hear Joe talk is a lot of the things that are going on in his life seem to be direct correlation that's going on in our life to some extent, you know Well, everyone's on the same journey, right? Yeah, and then probably the more of his podcast that you listen to if you're taking in right, you know if you're like starting to Be more mindful of what you're doing in your life You're gonna start to notice similar things that he's noticed. I mean, he's just a person that does what he can

to pay attention to things that work for his life. I mean, they were talking about cortisol being released in your system. And it's a stress hormone, chemical that's really bad for you. Meditation is a big one that relieves that, gets rid of it. It shrinks the stress centers in your brain over a period of time. Like they can show that with, I guess they use the MRIs or some sort of brain scan. It's fascinating how it works. And you know, David even says 80% of your health is in

your hands and about 20% is genetic. Like on average, I guess, like some people get a pretty shitty hand out to them. But that should give people a lot of comfort. 80% imagine if someone said to you 80% of everything about how your life turns out is in your hands. That's gonna rip. Like thank God. One out of five.

Like it's not always that way. If you were born thousands of years ago as a slave and you know, you're sold off like almost nothing is in your control at that point. Totally. Like that's a terrible hand to be done. Right. And this is your health. This is everything that will make you feel you know, healthy and alive and have energy

and not get sick. Totally. I mean, I don't know. That's fucking nice to see. Absolutely. You talked about five things that would increase your lifespan. These are all pretty obvious, but I'm going to repeat them if I remember them correctly.

Exercising, don't smoke, get good sleep. I don't know if you said don't drink or just don't drink a lot, and then eat healthy food. Yeah, duh, all of this is obvious, but worth repeating. Absolutely. You know, especially if you can have it think about it and be like, okay, which ones, which one of those five am I doing the worst at? And then just focus on that one instead of overwhelming yourself with like all five.

How can I improve, right? And once you start making daily practices, it's like you you said to me like don't beat yourself up if you miss a day here and there but man once you get in a routine we're both walking proof of that we have our own routines now and it's been no better medicine for our life than to have something that we do every day you know what I mean yeah and a ton of it has come from doing this podcast forever, honestly. Yeah. Like, I didn't even plan it that way.

I wasn't like, oh yeah, I'll just start pushing in all those directions, but it's like when you talk about it constantly, you just feel like an asshole for not doing it. Like how often does Joe talk about exercise? And I wasn't like a massive workout guy when I first started listening. I was doing some Jiu-Jitsu before this and I would occasionally hit the gym but I never really cared. But as I've got older,

like I'm putting a lot more into it, I don't know, just because I'm like scared that my body's gonna fall apart or I'm gonna have no energy. I don't want that. I see some of my friends, I'm turning 40 this year. I can't tell you how many of my friends are either out completely out of shape,

or they have parts of their body where they really hurt all the time. Like shit falls to pieces fast. You gotta keep the wheels tight. You gotta use it or lose it baby, I don't know. You get one bag of bones man. You got to take care of it. I always thought about that. I remember I had this broke down Subaru for a long time and I was like when I was just bartend until 2 a.m. and then party until 4 and 5 in the

morning and I was like this fucking broke ass Subaru is a direct reflection of your body. I'll never forget that. And I started working. I started working out, started taking care of my life more, got a new car, moved into a new place, everything started falling into place. And it's like no looking back, man, no looking back. Yeah, the fitness is a big thing. Right. I just noticed it so much with friends

that are kind of like in a slump or a bit depressed. My first question to them is like, how much are you working out? And they always come back with, well, I was doing it for a bit and. My first question to them is like, how much are you working out? And they always come back with, well, I was doing it for a bit and I did feel good but now I stopped and I'm like, well, that's probably the first thing, man. I never really know what to say.

So do some hard shit. But I'm like, at least that, at least get a sweat on. Choose your hard shit. That's free. That's free, dude. It's free, it's in your control, you can do it. And start surrounding yourself with positive people that are doing control. You can do it. Right. And start surrounding.

Yeah. Surround yourself with positive people that are doing that. Like, you got to cut some people out sometimes. You know what I mean? Like if it's not serving you, and all aspects, cut that shit out and form the life that you need to form.

Like, you know, you know, deep down and easier to set than done in a lot of regards. But it's painful to do. If you love someone a lot, but they're like lazy and useless and always complaining It's really kind of suck sometimes Especially if you're in that position where you're often trying to help them and motivate them Because then you just feel like you're giving up on them and they need your support

But sometimes you got to take care of yourself because if you're not if you don't take care of yourself You can't really help anyone else. That's Very true without a doubt They make they make reference again. We've said this before, but it's like the hardest thing is the hardest thing for everybody differently. Oh, yeah, I love that. It's so true man It's like it resonated with me so much. I mean lose my parents at a young age and I'm sure that's why I live the way I do. And maybe a lot of the time it's reckless, but a lot of that energy is formed in a way that I want to like

spread that thought process. Like you be here now. Like you be here now and embrace the time, but don't be so critical. But at the same time, hold yourself to a certain standard and have a certain character because that's the only resume you really have, right? Well, it's like David said, you remember his story about his grandma? His grandma, like said, like, go, what did she say? She's like, I'm going to pour love into this kid. And then, you know, and just like, give him all the love in the world so he can go on and change the world. And if he's not doing that, like, holy shit, like, he's clearly doing that. But draw strength from those things

absolutely like it's so important to have that make things make things reasons and not excuses is what it comes down to I think yeah yeah it's that's a good one I'm just waiting for his pill to reverse agent like can you imagine that world like give me that but it's just like one supplement he's like don't take anything else just buy this and you'll literally live 20 years longer That's it and you'll be healthy and it counts as a workout. That's it. I mean dude There will be people OD and I'm actually it's like immediately exactly that's like a bad get dick bigger pill people would be fucking Bigger pill people would be fucking Me to those things I actually would

Mad yeah, yeah, I would have OD'd on them. Yeah, I well I was gonna ask you a question if you had that opportunity and that was a Pliable situation what age would you actually want to be? I don't it's like getting older is there's a certain wisdom and a certain thing that it led oh your brains not gonna change Assuming you get to keep the wisdom that you have I mean I want to I want to fucking 18 year olds body I want max testosterone and max Flexibility and the highest Immune system that you could have I feel like I'm peaking right now at 38 like there's no looking back, but them that you could have. I feel like I'm peaking right now at 38. Like, there's no looking back.

But. Well, yeah, but if you tested, like, if you looked at all your levels, that I'm sure that can be true. I would take that test. Give me that fucking test. OK, well, maybe you're the one guy then, but it's not usually how it works. No, I mean, you're probably full of people. Well, I mean you were you were probably full of well

I think about being 30 well, that's fine You want to have 18 year olds body, but does that necessarily mean you go back to then you get to keep all the wisdom that you came because I was listening to Joe talk and the pills not gonna make you dumb, huh? Hopefully not really dumb of you to say that I didn't think about I'm just To time warp button is what I was thinking it was but it's like you think about it's not time travel isn't in a good Refreshing thing that he's like you're gonna make mistakes He's like the idea of growing older and being a little more enlightened and a little bit more wise is learning from those mistakes And even on a bigger scale than that learning from other people's mistakes

That's hard to do you know, but that's that's really the most effective way because you got to think every time you make a personal mistake, if that's the only way you learn, that means you have to make those mistakes all the time and some of them are very costly. But if you can look at others, especially when it comes to like really bad drugs, like Joe talks about that guy he saw that did cocaine as like cousin's friend or his friend's cousin or whatever, he's like seeing things that can really take you out and learning from someone else doing it. That's, that's efficient, you know, but there's still plenty of time to make your own mistakes. I mean, but just on hopefully a smaller scale,

like start a business and you realize, oh, I didn't plan enough for it. I didn't work enough or I didn't network the right way. I'll know how to do that next time. That's an important way of making a mistake. And that's a good regard. Like I like to believe that prior situations that I've had in relationships, provide me the opportunity to have the relationship that I have now. Oh, 100. But you've got to fuck up a load of those to really. my point is and I've been having this conversation It's like and I kind of drew on this and I don't want to look at it like marriages and mistake But it's like I look at so many of my friends and especially at our age they're either divorced and some of them seem so beat down Or still hanging on to this old relationship and it's fucking up their next one

It just I I don't know man, I struggle with the idea of marriage, I struggle with the idea of having some outside entity tell me what to do and like conform to that. Like I was thinking about such like a trivial scale is the mass thing. It's like I never signed up for a I clear shit through you button. I don't know why. It's like I have to add other stuff. But I was like, if I love you, I love you. I'll give you a fucking toe. That's what you want to do I'll give you one of my toes and then you know that I love you But I don't understand the notion of trying to keep up with this by or ring and do the other thing that everybody else is doing Just because they're doing it. I don't I don't get it and just doesn't resonate with me

I know that sounds crude Maybe on enlightened because the way they were talking about in order for the most successful people to be there have strong women next to them and I appreciate that I appreciate what it is but I believe that's probably true. I think it is too. I want to look only so much you can do on your own. I want to look at it that way and at the same time. But maybe you're change. You've just started dating and having a solid relationship after how long of not really having one. It's a big change man You probably just gonna take some time. I mean yeah, you know be patient with it Well, I just don't understand why it has to be the desire like I just is like it seems like we're playing by these like Somebody else's rules that they put in place. It's like who says that they get to like why do I need the city of California to tell me how much

I love you with this piece of paper? That's true. But women love that. I imagine. They want, you know, they get older and they're like, are you really into this or not? That's my point. It's like, can we make a family like, are you here with me? And, well, yeah.

I don't know where I stand. The guest's here, per. I mean, yeah, I think you and like. Yeah, I don't know. This is love. I'm sure people have no idea what I said to you. I think I think we're just having this conversation the past few days.

And it's like, have you ever met those people that there are successful marriages are there, but even successful marriages, it's like, we have a successful marriage, but it's a lot of work. And I'm like, I have never said that to you, to any of my best friends that I surround myself with the vast majority of time. It's good. It's really good. But you know, Adam, and it's a lot of work to keep that friendship. Yeah, but you're not having sex with us for at least. I get it. It's that it's why it's different. There's there's like you in a way like you become one in a sense Like you're you're like a really tight team that constantly relies on each other and I can appreciate that causes You know you got to just put a lot more work into it friendships are more relaxed like we do this part every week

But if we didn't, we could go a month without talking to them. And it would be the same thing. And that's okay. Yeah, but you couldn't, you couldn't do that with somebody you're in an intimate relationship with. And that's the thing to think that something's right. I like love desiring to hang with my friends and hang with her. I like look forward to those moments. And it means the most to me in my life. Like, those are the most fulfilling moments and I enjoy that. It's like why put the extra pressure? I don't know.

I get well, don't do it. You don't have to. You don't have to grow. You don't have to get back. I think you're thinking about it. No, that's what you're doing. I think in our later 30s too, it gets to the point where it's like, are you going to do it?

What are you going to do? Well, what are we doing here if we're not doing it? It's like, I'm just living these fucking moments and trying to have a good time. And I don't I guess that's is that selfish? Like, I'm just living these fucking moments and trying to have a good time. And I don't, I guess that's, is that selfish? Like, I don't know, because I want you to have a good time. Probably.

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