Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 251 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Jocko Wilink Et al.

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

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What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn. Podcast. Si necesitas un taller de garantía para tu coche, Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos altamente cualificados y formados. Descubre Motrio, tu taller para todo lo que necesitas. Encuentra tu taller, Motrio más cercano en talleres.motrio.es. Si necesitas un taller de garantía para tu coche, Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos, altamente cualificados y formados. Descubre Motrio, tu taller para todo lo que necesitas. Encuentra tu taller, Motrio, más cercano en talleres.motrio.es. I want to first start off by talking did you get it? Did you see the Tim HiDec

12-hour Rogan podcast parody that he did over Thanksgiving? I did not If you heard of Tim and Eric did you have watched that show? I've never seen it a Tim and Eric was like the craziest Comedy show really ever but also hilarious and it was on adult swim and it was like 10 years. These guys are... That rings a bell now that you mentioned that I can write. Yeah, they're funny as fuck and Tim has just done a parody to Rogan.

He sat there with two comedy buddies of his. He had a fudruckus sign behind him that actually looks surprisingly similar to Rogan's sign, which is funny. Yeah, he wore a SpaceX hat, so he was like kind of roganing it up, and he did the pod for 12 hours, and it was kind of in the style. Now, I haven't, I've only watched some clips of it.

And- Was he Brian himself? I wonder what Joe think. No, he had two other comedians on there too, but like their studio was similar, and like a lot of the topics were the same. And look, I know people have been coming at Rogan recently, and giving them some shit as an Al just did,

like CNN, like he's getting controversial but I also think that Rogan is open to people first things having a joke at his expense and maybe this isn't maybe this is just like Just kind of I think it's just pointing to the fact that he's so big people don't know what to do with it 100 it's it percent pointing to the fact that he's so big people don't know what to do with it. 100% percent. He makes reference to the fact that he has nobody governing what he says and the value that's placed in that is so overwhelming at this point given how many like people that are compromised with their views based on lobbyists and whatnot and politics. He's

the one guy that I guess to just go on here and say whatever the fuck he wants. But it's point. The thing is too, it's like I even hear my girl. Oh, I don't shout. Sorry. I just wanted to speak up into the speaker. But the my girl gave a good shout out. It's great having Jamie on the show too, you know what I mean? Because every time that it's so nice to hear somebody be like, Hey, fact check this.

Please make sure what I'm saying is correct. I don't think that that ever happens in any mainstream media or anything because they have this premeditated script that they're going to read. So on the Rogan show, it's the opportunity to be like, Hey, check this out. Make sure what I'm saying is correct. I mean, I know that goes without saying, but it's, there's such a value in that, right? Yeah, I mean, other TV presenters,

news people, they want you to believe that they know everything and all the answers. And you listen to most of them for like 10 seconds and you're like, this guy's an idiot. I'm out. Like, truly an idiot that just gets fed a teleprompter of shit to say and he would read it like Ancomhan. I think that's that goes right in the what he was talking about with Tim pool to about how the media is completely

that way right. I mean yeah there is no it's what it seems like to me and I wish it wasn't true every time I Listen to Rogan and he gets upset with media Like there's still a part of me that's like I want to believe in Mainstream media and news, but mainly because I was just taught to my whole life It's like are we sure we can trust independent news in podcasts and YouTube? But I think now is the time we know we can. That's it.

We don't have a choice. Well, here's the thing, too. I'm thinking back to when I didn't like having cable, my whole like high school life, I think. And then probably I guess through college, I had the same Cox cable, so you'd be privy to the few stations that you'd have. I don't think they were at, I don't think they were as biased at that time, I don't know. But like, now that I've been outside

of, I don't know the last time I had a cable, I haven't had a cable since I moved to California, that's for sure. I've always had these like streaming opportunities. So I kind of choose my news and Rogan has been The news source for me and the daily show was always the news source for me prior to if I'm being honest That was the only thing that I Seaked out was John Stewart. I always thought he was the news and I Can't say that I I'm ever watched Fox or CNBC now that I haven't had cable. So the, the, the, the, the, the movement away from cable TV,

I think from people has given them a more independent view or an opportunity to have one at least. Well, it certainly changed things. I mean, that's for sure, right? I mean, we did it this one way before, and now there's a new way. And the old way doesn't know what to think of the new way. And I think that's what it comes down to. So everyone's taken, it's almost like they're testing. It's like having a girlfriend that

loves to like push your body. But shouldn't truth always prevail and shouldn't we always seek truth? and shouldn't we always seek truth? Yeah, but people will bend. You know, there's no reason that Joe hasn't like folded from the pressure of this stuff. It's just a testament to who he is. But really, if you think about it, there's no reason. Because if he's thinking, all right, I sold this last contract for 100 million,

maybe the next one's with 500. I don't think he thinks that way. I don't think I didn't. No, he does. He clearly does. I don't think he does. He doesn't seem to give a phone. Which is just like, this is what I think deal with it. And I've done my research. How much fulfillment comes from that mindset?

When you're not seeking money and you're seeking truth and you're seeking what's best for everybody, there's a huge fulfillment that comes from that that can supersede money all the time, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, without saying. 100%. So 100%. Let's jump on a Tim tim pool who is a good representation of like online news and all media Clearly a very smart guy. I mean without doubt. Yes, very smart guy. A lot of resources, a lot of references, a lot of talking Yeah, COVID took him out. He got real sick took took, took Rogan's protocol. Seems like Rogan is the doctor of, of COVID right now, which, which is to be honest, right? And Rogan has said this a bunch of times,

but I want to reiterate it because it's something we should think about. If this was anything else, if this was just like a bad flu season and Rogan on his podcast said like he basically always has, hey you should try loads of vitamin C or blah blah blah, like all the types of things that he said, but this this time around he used a lot of science. He put a lot of work in. He had like a mega protocol for being sick. People would be so thankful that he said it. And no one would get mad. Why would anyone get mad? They'd be like, wow, wait, the fear factor guy has like a thing to cure the flu.

That's great. Maybe I could save my grandma. But now, if people listen to him, they almost feel like they're betraying the like, you know, political ideologies. And I'm like, guys, calm down. Maybe this is actually a good way to deal with being sick with COVID. Like, why should we not? Why consider it? Why would you not want to hear what worked for somebody else? I'd see yeah, well because they probably already decided they don't like him and they've already decided he can't clearly be Smart enough because he also said he didn't like vaccines. So he must be wrong and his credit is

His credit he's like I didn't say vaccines were wrong And I think that they work for the vast majority of people. But people that nobody's listening to. I don't, that's like, when I say nobody, I mean, like the people that would be haters, they've just, they've like locked the door. You've chosen the side. You've chosen your side and now there's no turning back. That's how it feels, man. To be be honest with you the way I always describe it

It's like the people that get mad at Jordan Peterson and I I sit there and talk to them and then they're just like Well, you know, he doesn't he you know He just doesn't like women and he doesn't respect women and that and I'm like I don't think any of that is true. Have you or he could I don't know what you're talking about Have you ever heard the person to have you ever heard the passion is voice for the love of his wife and the love of life and all these things is people just want

to tear people down that's the problem and it's like you're just not taking the time and the and the wherewithal to understand actually where you just want to jump on board with a with a try I don't want to say try because I don't think that the vast majority of people think this is just that's like baby shit You know what I mean? It's like I

You know, I don't argue with anyone. I don't either with this stuff I sit there mostly quiet Well, they like either bag on Rogan or they're like going to other things. And I just say, well, you know, he has had really smart people on his show that teach him things. And they'll be like, oh, blah, blah. And they just give me like this 10 minute lecture. But I don't need to worry about it because I have this platform to talk about what I actually think.

So I don't want to argue with individual people about us. The most rational thing, I don't say the most, but one of the most rational things that I've approached and tried to put towards my life that I've heard him say that I think he's quoted is don't be attached to ideas. It doesn't matter how many times you need to reiterate that. Don't be attached to ideas. You are a human being.

You're allowed to change your perspective on things if you see new stuff. When you're attached, when you attach yourself to ideas and you shut the door to opportunity to see a new angle or to see a new door that you can open and be like, oh, I didn't see it that way. That makes more sense. There's nothing bad about that. There's only that's enlightenment. That's showing that you have the ability to grow. You know what I mean? That's showing that. Yeah, 100%.

I mean, people are not like their ideas. They're not even really their actions to a degree. Like you can't just murder someone and then expect us to forget about it. But like, you know, you can have times in your life where you acted like a complete idiot under certain circumstances. And then later change from it. It's not who you were forever.

The resiliency is the key to life at the end of the day. Right. I mean, I remember one time where we had to throw some blackout guy in the back of my buddies, many in driving home at like six in the afternoon. I know that and that's not who that person is forever. Well, that was just a rough day of white claws. One truly, potentially. Yeah, and people change too.

And that's an important like, like well not part of this is like Yeah, I mean yeah, I will get in heat. I don't need to do it I want to say that I gotta make reference to this to the few friends that I have the few friends that I have I have like three but the ones that are vaccinated are Pretty adamant about not getting the booster. It's interesting to watch this unfold because initially it was I'm going to go to the vaccine. It seemed like I had this conversation with a buddy the other day. I was like you just push the threshold a little bit further than I did. You're like I'm going to go get the vaccine and

I'm going to do what's good for everybody because I stayed home. I did that. I did that. I did that. And now it comes to the point where there's got to be a goddamn line on the sand Where's people are just Okay, I've done five different fucking things you asked me to do at some point in time I have to grab a marker and draw the line in the sand and say nope I'm not gonna keep fucking playing Because when does the fucking booster shot end? Wind is all of an end? There's no

wind in sight if you keep playing that game. There's no end. Like give me an explanation how that ends. So I hear my buddies now they're they're saying I got the Vax. I did one I said you just took one more thing that I didn't know I don't you do anything you want but I understand when you're coming from you did the one more thing But now it's like okay, the threshold was set here and we set it a little bit higher But to keep now we're doing three shots. Are you out of your fucking mind like when does that fucking end? Well, I mean, so can you believe the Rogan Did his Madison Square Garden show and then a fucking senator tried to pass a bill that directly named the Rogan as like a performer that can't go that and it's just like,

all right. Can we stop? He's this part of the narrative now. That's like you need to pull on anything that is agreed with you. Anyone that disagrees with you and basically try and cancel them on what? Like the Senate floor? It's that's when this, you're building it on sand. That's the thing that shit's gonna unravel.

And to Rogan's credit again, he said I was ready to get vaccinated, but it didn't work out. He said it five fucking times, and I'm sure he doesn't have I wonder He's I wonder how different all this narrative would be He would still be saying the same shit, but imagine if he already got the vaccine, right? Then it would be so much harder for them to do and I said it wouldn't change a fucking thing by his life He's like why still I did what you said the same shit. I did what you said. I did not now. I've done everything you've said. What else do you want me to do? That's how it's starting to feel. He's almost like the only way you can disagree with the mainstream is to do everything they say

But then disagree literally there's no other way to put a tin foil hat on your head Lock yourself up spray yourself with you know Vaseline sterilizing jelly close your eyes because some light is bad and then don't breathe sit as long as you do that then we'll listen to what you have I gotta say dude I've made a point now like I think I said this on the last one but I'm I'm starting to just bra I'm not the mask. I always have the band-in in my pocket like I'm a gang member So at any time they want me to breathe through a cloth. I'll do it But from now on it's going in the

Well, you or you This is not different for you Just move the download Rubbing a bow. It just exposed my style a little bit. You know what I mean? Like now everybody gets to have my style. It's okay. You guys can have some. Yeah. Yeah, there was seriously is all the jokes aside, as much as you say about COVID, you were definitely the most prepared for the

coronavirus. Correct. Because you had like at least 14 bad. I had 14 beds before this even started. Like, head of the game. When no one could get a hold of masks, we could be like, Garrett, can we borrow one? He's like, I got you. What do you need?

American flag. Pirate. Core of the Vent He's like I got you what you need American flag pirate Core the bettie died. I hope he had all the corner the band-in a game and Basically save Los Angeles You save lives and no doubt out. Oh man, the virtue, the virtue and the vigilantes. Huh? We should have gotten the bandana selling business, bro. That was where we fucked up. That early on, like, don't tell me you don't know some major bandana distributors. You knew all of them, then she could have pulled all those up and selling them at a premium. We could have been saving lives before you even know it, but

this. Yeah, we fucking messed the bull on. Oh, we called Newsom. Well, we're not good business, man. I'll tell you that. Anyway, Kyle written Kyle written house, huh? What? I wanted to jump over to that story.

Did he? Oh, yeah, they did get to that one. Dude, interesting. Go. I Remember I remember when that whole story went down. I thought for sure that kid was completely just going there To kill to kill people like I that's exactly what that's all I saw it. Yeah early on that's all I heard up until the trial That's all I heard serial murder. That's all I heard up until the trial, that's all I heard serial mode, right? That's all I heard up until the trial. And then I, I so weird man being on both sides of it. Like I don't want to say both sides of it because it's like, I see the angle and I want, I don't know, it's a touchy subject because I have a lot of African American friends.

And I want to believe that if that same scenario happened and they did the exact same thing in his position that he they would have been treated the exact same way. And it did raise a question for me if that would have been the case. But after seeing the videos and after seeing the details and after hearing everything unfold I have to believe that if it was Kyle Rittenhouse African American or Kyle Rittenhouse White guy I want to believe that if it was Kyle Rittenhouse African American or Kyle Rittenhouse White guy, I want to believe in the judicial system and believe that that would have unfolded the same way. It would have been a great, honestly, and not to push whatever.

It would have been more influential if it would have been an African American guy, and that would have all unfolded in that case would have unfolded the way it did in hindsight. Oh, you're saying that like he went like a like a black guy would go to like a clan rally. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Same exact scenario, same exact motive, same exact thought process. This went through my head. I want to believe that the judicial system would have unfolded the same way. And it would have been a huge step in the right direction

had that been the case. But when I talked to my African-American friends and they're like, bro, that would have never happened for a black guy. That would have never happened. So I have to evaluate that and think about that because I'm like, I don't know. But it was so easy for me to see after hearing all the details and hearing all the stories unfold and seeing the footage.

And it's kind of hard. It's like, I almost looked at him as a hero to be honest in a weird way. Like, I don't want to say, hero, you drove. But if you're burning my shit in my city, and I happen to have a fucking rifle at the time. I'm not a gun guy. I Don't know if I'm bringing the rifle, but I'm doing some like if you're burning the building across from my house I think the story said that his his grandma or something owned a business there and he lived 30 minutes away Mind you he drove with a gun, but there's videos of him trying to help people prior to the engagements that occurred, correct?

From what I've heard. So it's definitely a complicated issue. Well, hearing them try to compromise the jury, too, dude. Like, when you hear him say in there, trying to take video of the jury, you hear him say that, like, so that wouldn't you know that the way you vote on this could dictate the rest of your life? Oh, because CNN is filming you. That was so fucking dirty and just shasty. Like, how do you even think that up? Like some of

the thought process are CNN, CNN is not my, like I couldn't even they they're doing nothing for themselves I'll tell you about it. Is it nothing good for themselves? I mean What do you think about that like that's what I was thinking when you thought about that thought process is I mean, I don't know well look at the end of the day. I mean the legal system is messy, right? So you you have to hope as messy as it is, that at least it represented whatever law is in place. And if we don't like the outcome, then the hope is you change the law, right?

So they give the example of how the ACLU, back in the day, used the defend Nazi. Right. And like, you know, I think there was even a famous case where a Jewish guy was one of the lawyers for like a For like a Nazi group or KKK group and but the point that he made is listen I'm not defending what they say. I'm defending their right to say it and if we don't do it for them Then we can't do it for anyone and then we can't do it for anyone.

And is crazy is that sound because the beat doesn't. It doesn't sound crazy. It doesn't really sound crazy if you think about it, but like when I first moved to America, you don't get to do shit like guy in England. Like hate groups don't get to speak at all. Like it's all banned. And I always grew up thinking,

well that makes sense because you don't like hate groups. But really when I got to the US and I learned more about what it means to have freedom of speech, I realized, oh, that means that there's plenty of speech that you're not gonna wanna hear. Not all speech will agree with you and that's what freedom of speech means. So, you know, there's

other, you know, there's things in there that like you can't incite violence, you know, you can't actually be like a saying, hey, go kill that guy. I mean, that's not the same as speech. That's a bit different. But, you know, you're right to speak on it. But now these systems have changed. The ESA are like, you has changed. They won't do things like that anymore. People in a way aren't really defending. Free speech, cancel culture, wants to crush it.

It's almost like we've had it so long that we've taken it for granted. We forgot what it's like not to have it, which is reasonable, because we only live fucking 80 or 100 years or whatever. It's like no one in the US lived in a time when there wasn't real free speech. I mean, probably African Americans still remember it.

Like they lived in a time when it was shitty here for that, like real bad for them, like the 60s and before that, it was rough. So there still are people that are really well aware of what freedom of speech really stands for and their ability to be able to speak up because they know what it was like to be told to shut up. But now no one knows. We love it. It's all the fucking woke world, bro.

They've been able to say whatever they want so much that now they're fucking going down. Yeah, but do you know any woke folks? Not personally. I don't even know. I can't even think of a real conversation. I'll probably our buddy, Dave, is the most woke person. But that comes from a spot of he mostly just gets upset starts crying. It's just like it just with all due respect, the day of the day,

it's just it's a narrative a lot of the time. I we're caring people. We care. I in like Joe says, I think at the end of the day, the woke people do care about, but the thing about what breaks that down is that you can see them eating each other alive within the context of the conversations. Like, you can only be so woke. And then the next woke guy's got to outwoke you. So if you're always constantly being out woke, when does the fucking line get drawn to the sand for that either?

Yeah, it's going to turn on you. It's going to turn on you too, dude. Those guys aren't on your squad because that's not part of the fucking narrative. How clear does that need to be made? It's happened time and time and time. Again, cancel culture is dramatically connected to woke culture, if you haven't noticed. And the reason that that is is because everybody wants

to out fucking woke somebody else. It's like, dude, we're all just fucking people trying to get through. Let's try and find the best solutions rather than calling everybody for their fucking problems like stop. Yeah, I mean, you would eventually you would have to outwoke everyone to the point where you're like half unicorn, half man, half undecided T.C. Z.H. with a rainbow hair. And you win, man. It says you don't live in this demand. You won, man. You won. You also identify as a tree. Go. And at that point, no one could cancel you. I have because you have become ultimately superhero world.

I was it. And then you win. You win the game. I was listening to Bird's podcast today. He said I think I'm gonna come out as fat I was like good call bro. He's like everybody else against the come out. Why don't I get a come out? And I was like cool, man. Yeah do it just like that. I was Yeah, just identify as that. Nobody had disagreed with me. You good? What did you think of the finish up there, because we've dragged on this one a little bit.

But the new Jersey rules there for like you barely on a gun. And then you have a duty to retreat, which includes escaping your own home to a safe place. That sounds un-American. That sounds. Now, I'm not saying I'm in the business of wanting to shoot people at come to my house. I don't want to hurt anybody ever. But to think that...

If you had to pick one to... Well, if you were breaking in... If you had to pick one time... If you had to pick one time to say I want to hurt somebody, if you're breaking in my house, that's one time. You had to pick one time to say I wanna hurt somebody. If you're breaking into my house, that's the time that I wanna hurt you. One time or hurting my family. Those are the two times.

I would say it's the one time I would like the option to and know that I'm legally protected. Even if I chose to leave, I still think that probably leaving safely if you can is the best move. You shouldn't necessarily put yourself in danger if you don't have to because you don't deserve it. You didn't ask for this person a break in. But if you don't really have a choice, if there's not an easy exit, you got to go round

up five kids. I mean, that's sure. And a wife and you've got a couple of cats in there. It's just like, okay, I got this too much work. I got to say, I think I was, I made reference to this too, but when watching a whole protest, watch walk, walk down Washington Boulevard and having the two ladies that live in my complex come up to my door and knock on the door and say, Hey, can we, can we stay here? Why this is going on? We don't really know what's going on. I was like sure. I would have liked to have a nice small pistol just to be like if anybody comes up my stairs, they're getting clipped. Like it's not going to go down because now I'm responsible for two

other lives and I'm not even going to take the chance. Like if you want to come up we're going we're going full clip. I would have at least liked the opportunity because that shit like they were talking about too. They were talking about the protesters walking they made references to that and that one like they were throwing rocks through college things and the college guys were like hey man we're with you. It's like that's how it felt here. I was like who knows what's going on. Fold all it takes is somebody be like let's go get this place and I like I wouldn't do that.

I promise you, you don't want to come out of these stairs because I'm picturing me just zombie apocalypse in you. Well, I think that video that they pointed out, and it's pretty well what I remember seeing it. It's a wake up call in the sense of like, basically what those protesters are saying is if they're out, you don't even like even waving at them, they could think is a threat. Well, that's like you just held them to do whatever they want until they broke and every

thing. That's how it felt here. But I was like, I'm the same as you guys. It was a bunch of, I mean, there was a lot of people, there was a lot of African Americans walking for Black Lives Matter, but a lot of the people causing the destruction during the BLM fucking things were not black, was skateboarding. Black Lives Matter people.

And I don't even know what those people are to be honest. I think that's just a sold fucking tagline that they have now, because it's like those are not, I mean, it was a weird time. It was a weird time. tagline that they have now because it's like those are not the mean I mean it was it was a weird time it was a weird time But the idea that you just had the like the lawlessness at any given time because like you watch the news Or you're watching some Instagram feed as a fucking character flaw. Sorry, but like that's not a that's not an opportunity to take advantage Like detriment that's not a that's not an opportunity to take advantage of like detriment that did just not Yeah, let's jump over the Philip golf this guy, huh and get into something even more

Vikilia in some on psychism No, yeah pan psych-psychist. What was it? Yeah, that's the same thing. I just said psychist. I think that was the form of it, but a psychist. Consciousness. Correct.

What the fuck is it? Hey, man. Hello. Hey, I remember I had to take a philosophy class in a ASU. I mean, the most brilliant people, philosophers come out of Arizona. Stay clearly, but I remember we had It was one of my most favorite classes. I remember the guy had really tight shorts out of the table and would like tight as like fucking Kackies up against his balls and my buddy just wrote doctor balls on philosophy 101

Comfort him out. I'm gonna go just pop that fuck pop that pleat right through those balls, but show them both Yeah, I mean, look, when I saw this podcast and with their offence, we skipped the Ben one, which maybe we should talk about a little bit, but I just kind of was like, we've done a lot of hunting ones recently. I like those. I mean, that guy's from Bozeman, Ben O'Brien. I'm like, was it Ben O'Brien? That's the thing. I believe so. I just, I wanted to, I want, there's one thing that I, great guy, but anyway, I just thought that this would be, I was like, this could be fascinating. Bro, I was on a plane flying back from Naxville listening to this and I could barely follow any, I don't even know if Joe was like really keeping up. I think he was just being polite. Like what,

I felt like he wanted to just be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, he's like, well, I could see how dualism may work, but as you might be a pan-psychist if, but maybe it's not matter, but it's what matter does when it thinks about. And I'm like, what are we talking about? I mean, I should have taken a bigger edit. I should have said this one.

It's what it is. I want to give like some philosophical process on it Where do you stand now? Is everything happening to you or are you are you predicting that for like the future or how much control do you have? Let's just talk about consciousness for a few minutes Well, that what really wasn't that funny. I felt they would go into that like determinism, but they didn't he was just trying to say that into that like determinism, but they didn't. He was just trying to say that consciousness exists. You can't explain it with physics and math. It's like the one uncalculable thing. Being able to experience a thing like a curry or like what I think I think to you is I think Joe you know a zombie can't really do that and I'm just like what the fuck good thing you brought the

career I think Joe kind of popped a minute's tracks on the curry story he's like well that's all good except those peppers are there and that stuff all got cultivated and all that stuff had to come together for it to have that heat profile like a lot of things a lot of things went all that stuff had to come together for it to have that heat profile. Like a lot of things went into that. So like to say it all just like is a conscious heat thought. I'm probably butchering it, but you know what I mean? It's like, no, you got it right.

This is what I will say. And this is gonna be a prime example of what were you talking about earlier. You are not your like ideas, right? They're just things that you have. This is something I will say now and probably in time, I will adjust and change. And the reason I say that is because this, basically what you have is you have a philosopher from a good school that hangs out with a bunch of other philosophers and talks to other really good philosophers and writes books on philosophies

and does speeches on it and goes to dinners with us philosophy. It's almost like you've just got a bunch of these people that are in their own, they're in their own circle of communication. Crossfit. And they're basically saying clever things to each other while mostly confusing each other on what they're even trying to say and knowing challenges them. What we have on this podcast is Rogan who is not that guy who is interested challenging this dude and being like, well, how the fuck do you know that the toaster doesn't have consciousness? And then he's be like well, I Could see how that could be a like every time not to be criticism

Philosophy is that's it's it goes hand in hand with philosophy. That's part of the deal like There's a I get it. Yeah, and this dude look Let me get it straight. He was articulate. He was intelligent, and he did a pretty good job eventually of getting some info to my brain. Correct. But to be honest, it wasn't very compelling. Like, I didn't leave that with really much that was profound.

Other than, I almost felt more confused. I felt a little bit more confused. I was like, I think I understand consciousness less than I did before we started. It's completely unscientific and there's no way to dictate it but yes this is what it is. And then he was talking to that guy that was like I don't believe that there's pain. And when I was like punch him in the nose. I love that. I love that. Punch him in the nose. Give him the rogan for an hour. They trained him an hour. And then after he puts down his three pound kettlebell. He's gonna be like my arm. That's the thing you could almost what is that real or not? You could use that same framework as

I'm not attached to my feelings as I Just punch you in the mouth. You feel that yeah, that's a feeling an literal feeling Either you do or don't yeah, if you don't please teach me how to not feel that shit because I would love that skill Feed me that skill to not feel pain when you fucking get knocked in the nose or lose love or get in the car accident Or have a fuck shut the fuck up. You feel pain, but Somebody that says that is not feeling pain very well here They occasionally they occasionally bump their toe. Hey, I don't feel pain that often They occasionally they occasionally like you know bump their elbow on the funny bone.

And they're like, no, no. But they're not hitting the gym hot. They're not training to like close to blackout. You know what I mean? They're not really stressing themselves the way they have a good relationship with their own physical limitations. I'll agree with that,

but I was also gonna say that that just fits another narrative to say that you don't feel pain is just still like Still be a little bit more woke than somebody else. It kind of falls in that fucking barrel of tricks Yeah, I have the ability to not feel pain you you sure I don't think yeah, no, I don't think that he said that he doesn't. Well, he retracted that statement after the fact, but yeah, I think he's saying, I think his friend was saying that like the pain isn't real and no one really feels pain or some bullshit like that.

I don't know. I don't know, man. You know, it's easy for us to sit there. It's a professional philosophers. I don't want to man, you know, it's easy for us to sit there. It's a professional philosophers. Well, I don't want to give them a hard time, but like at least try and be convincing them. What's the point of understanding something that you can't pass to a couple of morons like us?

Just like you said, I mean, Joe Rayson valid questions that philosophy is always going to face. Like there's no way around it. Like he said, there's no way around it. So you can't describe the undescribable, right? going to face like there's no way around it like you like he said there's no way around it so can't describe the uh undescribable right? That is true that is what do you think about the uploading your brain into the computer business that they talked about? Uh and some way that was like the one area I agree with them. I was like yeah that sounds like suicide. It seems like we've already kind of done that in summary.

I was like, yeah, that sounds like suicide. It seems like we've already kind of done that in summary. Like what like our I mean, and not and I want to feel from semi-millennial boomer mindset not to categorize myself, but like I feel I still have a sense of reality and still like going out in the sun and not attached to video games and a lot of things that a lot of our generation has been criticized for and whatever. But I don't think that that I don't want to be attached to that stuff to be honest. And maybe I'm just old school in that way. I don't know. I just saw this thing on Instagram that said, I can't remember what it said NFT or something or meta house sold for 2.4 million like some house sold like an online house like a virtual house sold for 2.4 million dollars. I don't know what that means. Oh yeah, I read that like I read that. No, I know. So I think it's I think it's a virtual space that's very highly inhabited.

And they've basically cut out real estate. So like, there's basically like a center to the square or the city where most people want to hang out. And they actually are selling the storefronts. And you can go in and like buy shit. Dude, we are moving in a weird all move a weird world a weird world I mean billionaires will be buying virtual dope ass houses that are up on a hill in a virtual game that everyone can see and no one can go up to except certain people and they have parties and there's one song I guarantee that she's wearing sunglasses

What the via I'm gonna fucking go on these real ways bro and just show up the waves. I'm good. I'm island boy Well, that's because you know we've become an old man Bro, I'm gonna stick with this and you're an I'm a boy. You're a stick. You don't got to stick with this It's called John. I'm good with all that. I mean, it's probably I mean Whatever do what see what happens do you think if we how big of the island boys? You think we could write off to them and just take a sample of their music for the intro to the podcast from Before all my friends listening there. I already know that I was the original island boy with I already had the face to ask what I had to remove Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised you don't I already had the face task what Adam removed. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm surprised you don't have to be honest. It's not good for my. It felt like it. It's not good for my. It was only a matter of time. I'm having career with what's what's falter. Jocco wouldn't be proud of me. No, Jocco wouldn't.

And that's a great, great transition. Let's jump over to the Really the podcast of the week. Let's be honest. Jocco, please we should have done this first So I apologize to everybody listening for having to wait this long But we should have done Jocco first. This is top 10 top 10 podcasts for me Dude Jocco is so good. So good. What a fucking legend. I mean, it's difficult not to like that guy. Like every time he comes on it, he's making a bunch of shit. I wanna check out those boots. I do wanna check out the boots.

I love the passion that he talks about, the people that are working on the factories and doing that. He's like, the way Joe describes it, he's like, you can tell that these were man-made boots. Like hand, not always say man-made,'re handmade boots handmade and it's yeah that's sex and I had my media they retract that statement I would assume women make really good probably better boots I'm gonna say right here probably better boots but dude it's so but yeah that's better than China making everything good it's so great to see because's better than China making every day. It's so great to see because

When he starts talking about when he was he's telling that gene story like I did 2021 or 2020 gave people an opportunity with a vision to do some things You they had to attach to a vision or you had to act like life was just happening to you if you acted like it was happened in for you Which Jaco is such a good representative, you started making some moves and started thinking, hey, how can I better myself? How can I get out in front of some things and try and do some things different? And he's such a representation of that. And even when he was talking about jeans, I remember he was talking about the time of the boots and then he was like, I was sitting in the airport and he's like, what does everybody have? Jeans, I mean, it sounds so simple,

but it's like, once you see a vision, the vision is exponential, you know? I thought that was great. That's a brilliant idea. I mean, yeah, look, I've heard that that geese, oh, though, I don't have one, I am boat one, but I've heard that good. And to make reference, at the end of

the day, how many people need geese? Not many. So it's not many. Not many. Like the same thing, like the guy he was talking about is a legit black belt. And when he said, I don't know, like 40, I mean, I probably know more than 40 by face. But if I had to sit there and name them, I mean, I've been doing that for years. And I probably know more than 40 by face, but if I had to sit there and name them, I mean, I've been doing that for years and I probably it would be about 40. By name, it's just like you don't know them and people. I don't know it, so fuck it.

It's cool though, it's. Get into jeans. It's a great, it's awesome to be awesome. Well, where you're at and to see, to see a need and to be, I mean, that's what we're gonna do with this podcast. We're trying to do that and reach out to the charities and what people we want to represent and support will be awesome, but it's... Shout out to Justin Ryan. Yeah. Like for the forgot.

So, I mean, it's great to have the opportunity to see something and then especially have the passion and the wherewithal to know that you're doing it for a reason like you're providing jobs you're doing you're doing it for all the right reasons you know yeah I do I gotta I gotta I don't want to go back to COVID but the way they discussed it I I listened to it like four times literally right in front of my girl. I was like, I hope you hear this and I hope this resonates because she's very open-minded and she's the same as us, but do it. The end of the day, I thought we were all just going to weather this and I think that the rest of the United States is figuring it out. It's interesting being here in L.A. and he makes reference to it too great. He's in San Diego, so he doesn't feel it as much but like it felt like it was just going to be a hiccup that we all just like fucking alright it is what it is and

we're going to move forward that's what life has been as an American citizen for the longest time like shit happens and then we move forward. This one has just been under the microscope and people have jumped on board and provided such an opportunity to be tribal and one-sided. And that has never served anybody ever in. We'll never serve anybody. It's like, we are United States. That's when I don't want to say fucking Jocco and Jocco for president and back that up, but we are united and then as long as we respect one another, there be no Division division is what's fucking us up, you know

100% I mean it's just So wacky man. I mean look Jocco is like a serious guy that cares about his health a lot Do you think that if he gets COVID? Garantied rogan is gonna be one of the people he reaches out to. And he has access to doctors too. There's so much mistrust. God, dude, 100%.

Why would you not reach out to your best friends? Dude, a professional quarterback, one of the best in the world, one of the greatest sportsmen that ever lived reached out to Rogan and asked for a protocol to get better because it's like I don't know if we can And he was better he got better real fast did great Krista this is a consistent Testament to humanity people are now trying to seek out the truth rather than just be biased to the fucking nonsense.

Because not even saying that it's the holy grail, but it's like, let's expose ourselves to some different ideas and then make a conscious decision rather than just attaching ourselves to one way and being virtuous. Like, I don't want to be virtuous. It's mind fuck to be honest. And I know that you feel the same way. And we've had this conversation when you have end of it. Yeah, I don't want to be on the winning side. I want to be on hopefully the most correct side. Absolutely.

That's it. Hopefully. And if that changes, I'll move on. And I'm not in it to win. When they make reference to it, when, when, when Chaco and Joe are talking about COVID, he's like, yeah, you get choked out on the regular. You get, you get literally choked out frequently on the rack. Is that, and I'm, and I'm, and that's what I'm thinking about when I, I'm not going to pass

judgment. And I, I appreciate everybody's view. But I think what we've always said to the worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst things that ever happened to you. We've had some worst things happen to us that don't need to be reiterated in the podcast, but have pushed in the fucking threshold of life to the fucking flat earth into the curve. You know what I mean? So it made the flat earth brown. So when you tell me that a cold is bad and that's the end of bio my fucking threshold of pain and and and thought of pain is very fucking far. So the idea that your narrative applies to my life

is not possible. And it's not rude. I haven't you lived your whole life after open-heart surgery. I've got open-heart surgery. And then telling you what your heart does. Just for the record, I had open open heart surgery when I was 18 months old I they told me I shouldn't be here when I was 16 Lost both my parents when I was 50 when they were 52 and 55 When you really want to break down perspectives of life and where things are You only have the draw on the line that you draw on for yourself and what you've experienced. So stop trying to let me ask you this how much how well did they say

your heart should work. I mean they said they said it should be great. I mean I mean I wasn't sure if they said it's gonna be 20% and to be honest I they told Isaac he should never play baseball again. They told my brother he should never play baseball. He shouldn't. That game is so boring. Dude, when he was nine, okay, we'll go. No one should play that. We'll put envelopes of a mass amounts of cash on my bed and then tell me I shouldn't

fucking throw 95 mile an hour pitches under the spotlight and have the greatest day of my life. You go suck a dick. Wait, why did they tell him not to play better? Not well, he other than it's boring. All the baseball fans out there will appreciate my sentiment. Shut your fucking English mouth. But why did they tell him not to play a fake hit? Dude, and that's the weird thing too. He had like some affidavits written up to say that I'll take full responsibility. If anything happens for my hip and they're like,

not you're too much of a liability. I'm condensing this story, but it's an inch. No, no, I got an interesting thing. Well, I only say that shit about your heart because they're like, when it comes to that's what my aunt said. That's what that physical challenge that runs your endurance the hardest and you're a big guy Like you're not like a like a fucking marathon row. Oh, but whatever the challenge is you just do Like you will just do as many steps and as far as it goes you've always been like that

I just heard the Goggins do you do that because of the issue with the hot like you think fuck this I got something kind of oh you just love it uh I will say that every day is satisfying after you to to to go back to jaco dude I that hit just the title of his book I read it fucking multiple times I know he's got a new one but discipline equals freedom I've said that so many times over the past few years that it's fucking just implemented in my life at this point. Like, do like when I wake up, I had like earning the day, those two guys, good jaco and goggins have fucking implemented so many like I'll be writing to the thing and I'll hear jaco and my fucking in the back of my psyche or it's just like that voice in the back here had me and like hmm just hearing him talking about Ramadi

and like I have all these stories just hearing his voice in the back of my head it's like oh here we go I guess I'm gonna go fucking dominate again because I know what he's doing it's it's uh having those two guys and having those inspirations from Joe has been very like I mean we've made references to the Gogans to it but it's like those stories that they tell are fucking have been instrumental in my life in the past two years that it's I think it's good to have though you're like if I look at my friends like if this was like ancient times and there wasn't like YouTube and Instagram and all the people

I mean you are that person for me. You're absolutely exhausting Like it's so exhausting and you just call me and it's like eight in the morning and you're like I've already done all these I'm barely shoveling oatmeal in my face and then you'll like come for a run with me And I'm like god damn it. Okay. I'm on my way. I can mind you But it like gets me moving it keeps me it keeps me being like fuck. I gotta do something I gotta do something or else what you stagnation is he said it I think I just watch like a you two is either moving forward or you're moving backward There's no way around it like there's no way around it in this life either moving the fuck forward or you're moving backward. There's no way around it. Like there's no way around it in this life.

You're either moving the fuck forward or you're moving backward. Right. I don't know. I've been living in this stagnant somewhere at the same time. Like I, I'd, there's no, there's no fucking misstep. I have, I have, I just, and this is not a two to my own horn, but this is, I have been keeping track of the fuck it. Sounds like it's about to be a two to it. But I looked back and I've been keeping track of every single day this this year, and I have less than 20 days, I have a month less, there's been less than 20 days that I have knock on aggressively on, and there was three days in Jamaica, three days in Puerto Rico

where I just took some time, but like I have every time and I'm like, dude, there's so, there is no better feeling than accountability and discipline for your life. I can tell you that point blank and coming from the yeah, you're you're my canary in the coal mine to see if exercising too much can actually calm down to it. I'm just like waiting for the day to see I'm like, oh, get your style. Well, okay, I guess I chose. With that, with that being- To only work out kind of hard, most of the time. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, there's a lot of banging and claim,

because I like to have a good time. I'm the birth crusher of the show, but I enjoy- but I enjoy a good time, but I also like to fucking be accountable at the same time with a little bit more reverence than a lot of folks would have and I will say that I'm appreciative for that motivation that somehow flows in my veins. But you know, like you're saying, it comes from people like, like, Jocco is incredibly motivated. Oh my god. And it's an important role that he plays. Yeah. Like, it just is. It's like that fucking good video. I don't know how many times I've been like really down, really frustrated, really just not believing in myself

and just watch that and I'm like, oh, even some friends in my friend group that will just text me the word good or caps and we know what it means. Right. And it does. I'm not saying it's a cure to feeling terrible, but it gives you a second just to be like, OK. Bro, I have a fucking thing that I'm staring at right now as I talk to you that says reason is greater than excuse.

Now, it was the one thing that I randomly said, because I remember talking about my parents and talking about life situations, and then you get to a point where you're just like, you know, that's going to dictate the narrative for the rest of my life, or it's going to fucking dictate the narrative of the rest of my life. Right? Yeah. I mean, it's these are the important things to think about. I mean it's these are important things to think about I think it's good to write that shit down To have it somewhere, you know, and you're not saving it for the days you feel great You're saving it for the days you feel like sure, but though But those days are limited when you work hard, but I can tell you that point blank You know it as well as I do you know the idea when you feel like shit, that can be overcome. That really can.

They have a conversation, reach out to somebody, go do something hard, do something nice for somebody else. Don't live in this fucking thought process that this is a shitty day. You get a few shitty moments. I'll give you some shitty moments, but shitty days are not fair,

especially if you're walking, seeing, feeling, doing things, and not that people that don't, they find a way to find a way that's not shitty. So at the end of the day, life is good, baby. Yeah, yeah, those, those like kind of annoyingly optimistic people that you know, actually super beneficial when you have an rough time. Let's be honest. You're talking to me, or you're just talking in general. I just mean it like in general.

I mean, you often are that, but like, but I don't mean it like you're not annoying to me because I just, I just know you, but like sometimes when you haven't been feeling good for a while and you have those people that are just always have the optimistic kind of talk, it is kind of hard to hear because you're almost self perpetuating the state that you're in. Like you almost want just to talk to someone that also is sad and complains and I get it. I understand that frustration. It's a difficult place to be in and you don't want your thoughts and ideas that are difficult to just be ignored and brushed over with someone be like bro you just gotta go and do it man you got it.

Like it's nice to have some sympathy but that it only goes so far and what you said is important if you're having like multiple days in a row where you can't find anything that you care about that you're positive about you're excited about then I would say that's when you want to find those overly positive motivating people because even if it's going to be difficult to hear for a while like you need to hear that some people exist that can have that whole process and it and it is beneficial It will help you kind of change your inner dialogue a little bit I mean it's it's interesting to him and like you you talk about language and you talk about We've talked about this multiple times with how much it perpetuates your story and

perpetuates your story and I have a weird situation now with I asked maybe she will maybe she won't listen to this with my aunt actually just sustained with my brother right now and it's weird because I'm trying to look for solutions but she's in her inner I don't say last days what she's in her 70s but she's been in such a weird spot she's either either way, she ended up here, and she completely believes in God and the reason that she's here is because God provided her the opportunity, and it's like, okay, praise you.

I told you about her before. She was like, when I was like, how are you gonna pay rent next month, and she was like, faith, and it's weird, man, you want to be there for your family, but now it's in the spot. I'm like trying to YouTube and Google, like, how does 75 year olds make money?

But it's such an interesting time to, I don't know, did she? Uber, Uber, Uber, that's not a bad idea. I don't know, but, whoo, we have a,... Hoof, we have a... Wait, it's right, we have a pre-savailable, now that we've been... Alicia just showed up, and we have a man... I'll turn it into that. Anyway, let's go back to...

Let's finish up with Jocke, all right? What did you think of the iPhone thing? When they brought up that, imagine just like Jocke did, you've got American made, but even so they don't have to change their way of doing it, that you've got the regular iPhone, you can buy that for a thousand bucks, or you have the American only made iPhone two thousand. Okay, let's do that. Do you think people would buy that? Okay, I think

we know the American made iPhone that's made in L.A. and charge an extra two grand. Do you know how many mother fuckers would pay for that? Just to say that they could hold like some chip to say that I bought this Dude, I gotta tell it now that this reminds me and this is no disrespect. Oh my god I forgot I didn't tell you about this. We went and this is not a virtue by any stretch Alicia and I set out to do something virtuous on Thanksgiving and go help feed the homeless. We went over by goals and we showed up with like ready to go. There was about what would you say 2000 volunteers with name tags on. There's probably a hundred homeless,

I'm going to put in Eric quotes homeless people with the fucking most Get the fuck out of here what's the best fucking setup of food at 8.30 in the morning The best Nike's that I don't even own like Yeezies, and I'm not being fucking over the top Baby, am I being over the I don't know about Yeezies, but nicer fucking shoes than I own brand new Nice or fucking shoes in my own brand new nicer than what we were wearing all of it all of it And this is just like it's such a weird thing. Yeah, and you have dope Exactly But the thing is it's like and then at least should I were like how can we how can we like do our part because there's like It's obviously it's got to be overwhelming to say you're like unquote, homeless, but you're like accepting like air pods to some extent. You're like, I'm gonna get a vacuum from my tent.

Like, I don't know what the fuck is going on. So like, I'm gonna do some welding. Well, at least now we're like, hey, let's just grab a couple toilet tree bags and we'll walk up and down the side streets by rows, up and down like third and fourth and sunset and like try and hand a few bags out. First two bags. No, I don't need it already got it. And we're like, all right, well this is a weird thing. It's nine in the morning on Thanksgiving and people like pissed off to

get shit. Not their problem, but it's like, I mean it was it was a weird time and I will tell you as it yeah. Well to be fat like that homeless so then maybe they were having a well homeless is all relative The I don't want to sound non-impathetic, but I Don't know man a lot of it, but that is that a lot of it a lot of it like a lot of Involuntary a lot of it seems chosen out here at this point to be honest with you I got to be honest a lot of it seems chosen and To those that have the mental issues and have the other stuff that's going on I'm with you and I'm on there But the the ones I'm in the thick of it. I'm I'm literally in the thick of it

I'm around them every day. I'm up and down the boardwalk every fucking day a lady hissed at she did because a lady hissed at me when I was walking in. It's it's getting to the point where it's like there's gonna have to be a reckoning. But I can't understand why they wouldn't be people. Not today, Satan. All right, you're gonna have to tell her to shut up. I love her, but he said you can't tell. He said you can't tell. I love you. And we're doing a part. It's all right. I should have told her. But why but why weren't they in line?

Dude, they like even the ones that are really struggling like they like you would imagine there would be a good handful of people that really needed help. That would have heard about this organization and they would get in line and try and ask for help. I mean I don't know man it was the richest, elast thing I've ever seen it was like so many people trying I mean we were I mean it not trying to be virtuous we're just like we have we want to go with help out we have nothing else to do today we don't have a dinner. Dude I I know you wouldn't have gone if you didn't. But it was a weird thing to be like we're all competing to like hand other people that don't really need it shit.

That was what it felt like to be honest. Right. I'm sure there were plenty Instagrams that would be honest. The worst part is though, we talk about this giant budget the LA has or California has for helping the homeless and then we see this which is like part of it like it's organized to help with volunteers like this isn't working It's shit this money is clearly being wasted and we're having to pay into it. It's like hold on How about Elon Musk sells his stock and cures Like starvation the world over and then we just set him up to be like Can you also cure the homeless problem because I don't think the government's gonna? I put it I put it in his hands and Jocco's hands in a

immediate instance than anybody else's. At least they would have a fuck. Dude, if you put any plan in place and put Jocco in front of it, the way he was talking about leadership too not to bounce back, but it's an interesting dichotomy that comes from leadership. Because whenever you put people in a place that they get to leave, they have this, I think, initial thing to like swing dead. But if you can retract that and be a man of the people, whenever you're given that authority and show, like, I don't want to say, do what Jesus did, like wash the feet, but you want to respect that guy so much more. You know what I mean? And it's, it's, yeah, it's such a, it,

from a presidency standpoint too, it's like, why can't we get a guy that's just a little bit hum, I mean, I know it sounds silly and arbitrary to say, but it's like, why can't we just get a humble, young guy that wants to change everything for the better? Like, dude, I'm not going to lie, I don't want anything to get worse for anybody. the fact that that was one of Jaco's prerequisites for running. I'm like I kind of hope that it does Because maybe it takes someone like him and then all of a sudden Rogan's like all right at back him and then Elon Musk Just goes I'll pay for his entire campaign and then we have Somebody in place that we can actually fucking look up. He goes, he goes follow and believe he's like, dude, here's the round table. What do you bring to it? What do you bring to it?

What do you bring to it? What do you bring to it? Let's put together a fucking planet for God of solution. Yeah. And he's like, and if any of you fuck up, you take accountability and we'll figure it to the public figure the fuck out. And then you say why you did wrong And then we adjust at which no one seems to be a win this guy seems to be a win-win-win for all humanity if you ask me Something close right something similar to that doesn't have to be handled someone with that mindset that that like to not men on jaco All right, and on that note, jaco for pleasure for P

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