Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 253 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Blair White Et al.

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

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Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. This week, yeah, this week what we got Matt Taibeibi Blair George. Oh, yeah, Camboso go ahead and And Garrett's favorite Blair White Where you want to start It's not with Matt. Let's start with Matt the Matt Taiyibi is always great to listen to I love town Rogan brought up that. She, I mean, he sounds like the Theron on Slate. It's her name, Elizabeth Holmes.

Yeah, kind of true. I'm pretty spot on. I think you're kind of true. I was saving that joke for him, but it was pretty spot on. He kind of looks like, and I love Matt Tauy, he has no disrespect, but he almost reminds me of the dude from the goonies a little bit And that's with yeah, that's with love but that's all love that guy was probably a good guy to us all love

Yeah, I like that. Well, they open up with like people of people are mad that this probably came from a lap right like like people are mad that this probably came from a lap. Right. Like, finally, it's to the point where the most obvious thing that it was likely for it to have been is now the truth. Right. And nobody took us, nobody's taking a step back. Nobody's being like, hey, remember when we are really wrong about this? Sure.

Nobody's doing that. They're just like, oh, I guess it did come from there, and that kind of does make sense. And we should follow the facts. But I mean, you know, the science kind of pointed to that market. No, it didn't. It never did.

It never did. OK. It didn't come from eating bats. Like, just stop. Dude, it became, they touched on it. I mean, they fucking full pressed it. But it was either the way they divided the thought process as far as if you believed in the lab leak theory or you believed in these certain

scenarios you believed in Kyle Rittenhouse or you believed these different stories that were made up narratives, supposedly, you were a Trump supporter. That was just, it was cut and dry, especially in California was like if you were on this side of a thought process you had a religious backing or a religious motivation. Yeah this is the this is the madness of this. I mean people have emailed me saying that all left review saying that we clearly are Trump supporters. I never have. Oh my god. I wasn't the other person supporting you. I just wasn't that's the political at all But I'm like wait a minute. Why why does having an opinion on where the the

virus came from which actually turns out that it probably did come from there have anything to do with your political thing. Have you guys ever heard of the book? That doesn't make sense. Have you ever heard of the book, The Art of the War, Divided and Conquer? That's been a fucking plan from day one. Like, what are we talking about? It seems like, and to comment a little bit. The government on a consistent basis,

I hate sounding like a complete lib, because it seems like we're looking for things that complain about in the threeest country, quote, unquote, that we have, you're going to England so there's going to be we'll talk about that later. But we have this mindset that we're in the freest country of all. Yet we don't take the time to think things through and we don't take the time to see that maybe the government is capitalizing on a state of chaos and they always do. Matt Taibi looks back on

situations like 2008 and even further 9-11. Whenever they pass the Patriot Act, they pass the No Fly Act, all these things, because if we're in a state of emergency, then we give people the ability to make these laws and to make these like drastic fucking decisions that are going to be impactful later on. But for some reason, this fear mongering is overwhelming. And there's no like there's not like a temperature gauge on. It's just like a hundred or zero. It's like you got to fucking find right. You know, it's like the government, the government, when we're afraid,

gets untold powers. We allow them to do it. And then when we actually watch what they do to help us, like he was saying, and we're afraid, gets untold powers. We allow them to do it. And then when we actually watch what they do to help us, like he was saying the Patriot Act, they never used that to actually really arrest any terrorists. They were all like, they were just, they were just like local cops having ridiculous access

to like our phone records. So, you know, you're American, you're an American citizen. So, fatso. And they have. So, fast forward to 2020, and we're in the exact same fucking scenario. You gotta get, well, you gotta get your fourth shot. You gotta get your fifth shot.

You gotta use six shots. It's like, I haven't actually heard fourth, fifth or sixth, but why would that stop? What would be the incentive to stop that? It's not a vaccine. Haven't we come to that fucking thought process at this point? It's not a vaccine. Haven't we come to that fucking thought process? At this point, it's not a vaccine. It's basically a steroid for your immune system is the way I've been internalized. Would that be accurate? So because you know how you take steroids, you have to take them again and again and again for it to keep quote unquote working. But if we live in a time where all of a sudden, there's a new disease that if we don't

get a vaccine, we all die. I don't think that, right, like I'm pretty sure that you just accept that it's the end of the human race or you find another way. Like you can't just keep giving yourself vaccines against all these things. Right, right, right. And so interesting how the George Floyd thing too, like they touched on that and I going back to that, it's, it's an interesting scenario, a wild fucking thing. And that guy was clearly guilty of what he did. He clearly committed murder, maybe unintentionally. I'm assuming unintentionally. That all happens in a minute. You know what I mean?

He's not seeking that out, but he, oh, you mean the call to the car. The car. Nellton is not. Yeah, I'm not saying that was right that was messed up But the thing is the fact that ever since George Floyd died It became like he was some fucking like preacher that took care of the kids And I'm not trying to diminish his life. He deserved to live. Let's let's put that out there But the idea that we have statues of this guy now is just like what like I'm not that he should have died But it's like it was an opportunity to like that's the bad news of this guy now. It's just like, what? Like, I'm not that he should have died. But it's like, it was an opportunity

to like refurbish all of America because the slavery situation happened and it was like, we're using this as the icon and the iconic situation to put all of our fucking eggs in. It doesn't seem like, and hindsight, it's like, I, I, I, I was in that situation just central because I know that there is violence and there is discrimination. Yeah, but dude, it's also similar though to, um, uh, Rosa Parks, right?

Like being told to, like, go to the back of the boss and she didn't want to sat the front. Like you do have to have I can't. I can'tatching for movement. But he wasn't doing it. Now, who knows what Rose Parkes was as a person? Like it doesn't really matter whether she spent all her time helping the homeless or she could have been not even that great of a person

that just liked arguing. That's a good point. It doesn't matter. It's what she symbolizes that was in poor. That's a good point. And he unknowingly did something very similar. That's right. So yeah, if they have statues of George Floyd,

and people could say that he didn't really necessarily represent himself as like, but you don't need to be a saint. You just need to create a movement that could potentially be beneficial. I think I think the problem is that through that whole thing, you know, people also capitalized on their ability to go steal sneakers. And I was in Chicago during the riots there. And to say who was capitalizing on it, it does. It was people of all races. I think I saw mostly white people riots there. And to say who was capitalizing on it, it does, dude. It was people of all races.

I think I saw mostly white people out there. I had to trying to steal stuff from this thing. I'm like, what is happening? I had two white buddies, and I don't know their mentality or what they were saying, if they really meant it or they were joking, but I'm kind of almost meant that they thought that it was an opportunity to go fucking snag some shoes. They're like, but I'm kind of almost meant that they thought that it was an opportunity to go fucking snag some shoes

They're like should we go there because you could see it in Santa Monica on TV on the news like two miles away People were just taking shit and nobody was happy nothing was happening You see those images of those guys running out with the surfboards and the shoes and shit Yeah, I mean to their credit and not credit, but they were very young fucking kids So they're in so it's easily and they don't really Think for themselves. They're probably early 20s. Like shrew go grab some shoes, and I'm like listen No, I was like this is a still a character moment. You have to stop be a character person like no But it is interesting to see that this similar to group think it's like oh well if everybody else is doing it

I should fucking do it too. It's like, just when an opportunity is provide themselves, doesn't mean that you need to take advantage of them. You need to still be a character person regardless of the situation. Yeah, I mean, look, ideally, like we all like to get out there and have fun. I mean, look, after the British parliament, party, there's a part of me that wants to go to the rave

that 300,000 people signed for the years. Just because it would be a pain in the ass, they'd be super annoyed, and I would love to be at a report on it. Well, the fact is, I don't get to go to England often, so I want to spend it with my family, and we're like two hours away from London. So it's unlikely, but like, I get it,

but I'm not going to go there and smash anything up either Saying that if I see the crowd get really upset and Start throwing some things over the gates of parliament like I look. I'm not encouraging it But I might laugh at it like can I not laugh at some things I see? I'm like, oh, that's not great, but pretty funny They kind of ask for it. Like you fuck up long enough, you're going to pay it. I think that you're going to pay that kind of a loons to how our government makes decisions, too. They touched on the fact that we spend so much money going to

these other countries, trying to free these other countries. Yet it kind of speaks to what we're talking about how the cyclical situation of a bad neighborhood promotes bad behavior without policing and whatnot. But it's like, we go all across the nation to try and help these other people. But here within our own country, the inner city of Chicago, Detroit, New York, there is so much fucking stuff that's been going on in perpetual violence and perpetual behavior that we don't focus on at all. behavior that we don't focus on it all. And the reason is is what he said. He goes, I'm quoting him here. He said intellectual shouldn't be able to make all the decisions.

Like it's like you have this thought from a theory point of, hey, we have all these resources. We have the ability to go overseas and help these other people. Maybe we need to open the door up to the fucking inner cities of the people like and focus on helping those communities. First or at least a hundred. You know what I mean? Like at least try a hundred percent. Like the fact that we're like not recognizing that and delegating his mother like it sounds good from like an intellectual standpoint but let's help the fucking yeah let's help our people and then hopefully those people can go out and help the other people in a like a future thing kind of thought process.

people can go out and help the other people in a future-thick kind of thought process. But the idea that we just dismiss that and make all these other legislation to go into I mean other countries that aren't necessarily asking us to do that either. Granted, a lot of people are suffering, a lot of other people's and I'm not going to negate that. But a lot of people don't look highly on Americans. It's kind of like when I walk down in the Venice boardwalk and I try and hand shoes or something to a bum and they're like I don't want it. And it's like okay maybe I I don't know I'm trying to be virtuous and make myself feel

better but at the end of the day did they really want it? Maybe they're choosing that who knows I don't know. That said we do live in a free society quote unquote so we have a little bit different perspective on it. That said, maybe we need to internalize a little bit and take care of what's going on here rather than trying to seek out other situations that maybe not necessarily serve us, you know. No, I think you're right. I mean, look, the South Side of Chicago is struggled for a long, long, long time and And I didn't spend a lot of time down there

when I lived in Chicago. But, you know, if you rode the train down there, you would see that they don't have whole foods, right? They have check-catching stores. They have like a wig store, a barber place, a liquor store. They barely even have places they can go to to get like good quality food at a good price You know, they're not being helped

Like that was very clear and that was during even Obama's time and look I'm saying I'm sure he wanted to do more than other presidents do for that area because he's from Chicago I'm not saying that he didn't want to or couldn't but it just is hard to do it yet somehow we can go Rebuild nations abroad because of the tactical advantage. I'm like how about we rebuild this fucking place You think about Iraq and I mean I don't say I was saying it's then but We obviously had an oil an oil And to it and I don't what what the word is, influence that. We had a, we had an extra fucking reason to go.

We had a motivation, that's the word I'm talking about. We obviously had a convoluted motivation to go to war with the place. And if you don't want to acknowledge that, you're just being naive. It's interesting when he brought up the Trump thing, too, after the George Floyd. It's like had Biden been in office. What changes? He goes, does everything unfold that way of Biden's in office? And it's like, I don't think that was really the case. You know, I mean, it wouldn't happen that way. Yeah, hard to know. I mean, yeah, I think that I think that Trump really upset

Like the liberal side of America to the point where they were willing to pretend that good medications were good good, you know that like Whether whether disease came from was true, like they were willing to not look at what the truth could be and And that's a hard thing to say because dude I would have 100% Called myself dude. I had a very liberal person during that during Trump's time But when I watch them do those things I was like look look I get it. I get it We don't like Trump, right? He's he can be annoying But like what are we doing? We we can't cut off our own nose despite our face

Like that's what that saying is bad news Gotta be we gotta be careful They went they went too far I don't know man. We should go back to what Matt tell you he was talking about when Russia Those villages don't even don't even have money. And they're just like trading, you know, I was kind of cool, I thought. Crops and moonshine. I was like, that would keep everybody's, you know, it's kind of cool. I mean, look, man, you're not going to have, when you have a system like that,

you don't really have any luxuries. You're just surviving. So you got food and you got some alcohol. Like nobody's there with a PlayStation. Like that's be honest. So it's really not great. But there kind of is something romantic about that idea. Like, ah, I thought that exact same sentiment. Yeah, they just given up on their own government. They're like, no, this is how we do it. Do it. We don't worry about you. We just 100% survive on our third run. Humans either survive or they die and they evolve or they don't. And it's like, that's just what happens. It's part of nature.

It was interesting here in them talk about, too, like, what has happened after the pandemic and who's benefited, like, when this money comes in the, you already talking about your plane ticket and all these all these finances that are coming in to just getting the test prior to he's like He said banks had their best year ever Clearly clearly. It's like it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it making on godly amounts of risk-free profits with no competition because they're funded by the fucking government. They're both have their hands in each other's pockets. It's an evidence. Yeah, dude, the top billionaires in the world, like, made an extra hundred billion in a

year. Moderna made 11 billion last year. It's 11 billion. How much did you make last year? I mean 11 dollars? I mean last year, yeah, I made like 25 bucks. I mean Clearly it is and now looking back on it's like who benefited all big business who had all the resources every small business has been completely fucked not everyone of them. That's not jump to conclusions but a lot of them have been fucked. And the idea that that's not,

like he said that a lot of people that own small businesses tend to lean right because they believe in individuality and believe in like the opportunity to develop their own business. I mean, it's pretty clear as day, you know what I mean? And then Joe brings up another idea about like how corporations work. It just sounds good.

It sounds good. It sounds gross. And like it makes me like, come on. He talks about how corporations are built. And it makes sense from a money standpoint. If you're a moderner, you're fucking Pfizer or whatever this company's, and you look at your bill, and you look how much money you made last year,

and you made $11 billion last year, the next stop, the next process is, okay, how much are we gonna make this year? And you're like, oh, we cured COVID. What's the incentive? What's the fucking incentive to cure it? What's the incentive to make an actual vaccine? When you get more fucking legislation and more money,

when you gotta get another shot, and another shot and another shot. That's what he said. He goes, you got to sell the problem too. He goes, think about it from a perspective of like Adderall. He goes, Adderall wasn't a thing until we told everybody they had ADHD and then it became the fucking angel solution for kids. And it's like, you got to develop a problem in order to make a solution. That's a sales fucking prophecy, right?

So it's pretty fucking evident. That's what's been going on and I hope that people are willing to open their minds to that And they don't want to feel do I get it the ego is a motherfucker and it makes you want to feel some kind of way But if you can drop that and see the bigger picture it comes a lot more clear and this isn't a fucking Conspiracy theory you can look it up like you can look up their quarterly earnings and see the bigger picture, it comes a lot more clear. And this isn't a fucking conspiracy theory. You can look it up, like you can look up their quarterly earnings. It's on the fucking worldwide web, but. Yeah.

I mean, it's just a tough one. Like you hear that like it was any saying at the end of that one, the Africa is like some of the lowest vaccine rates. Yeah, they have like really low COVID infection rates. And it's strange and they don't really know what. No figure.

That's all I have to say. You know what I mean? I mean, that wasn't how it worked in the AIDS epidemic or pandemic or whatever that's called. Like people there were really struggling with that. Does it like there was a point where like 50 plus percent of the population were infected. Like that's a truly like horrendous thing that affected everyone and they're not, you know, if he's right and I haven't looked into it for Africa, but you know, if he, and

this guy doesn't even search, Matt, doesn't have any incentive. If, but yeah, I hear you. Yeah, it's like, if that's's the case shouldn't we look into that and like I guess I've a mectin is is widely used Oh my god, it's the very cheap medication and it's and it's helped Dude, that goes back to that one study about whenever they how do you have any faith in a government whenever it Gateway was like that big group of people had syphilis and they gave them a Sugar pill to see if the placebo effect would work. While, meanwhile, they wanted them to go, it was like mass genocide.

They wanted them to go home and spread it to their families so they'd kill everybody off. I don't know where that thought process came in, but even the idea, you talk about dirty, that's straight up fucking debi- like debolical. What the hell are you saying that word? That's crazy. To try and fucking Genocide a whole fucking group of people and act like you're doing a fucking study

It's like you need to you need to take pay attention to that You know, I mean the fact that they could do it then they could do it again And I like I said I love America, but this has churned it on its back and it's unfortunate that Everybody is trying to follow our lead and we're not really leading the way we should be leading, right? Yeah, so I don't know it is what it is what it is We are where we are it's just more of this it's just like there is a point to this where we're like, okay We have to talk about this often but it is coming up and it and it does this often. But it is coming up and it does make me think a lot about how people are going to perceive information in the future. Like I get into incredible, I get like kind of

arguments with some of my closest friends about this still. You know, they send me like, you know, they send me like articles on confirmation bias and be like, well, that's only way you get your news from and I'm like, well, where do you get your news from? Oh, we just trying to get the news from people we try to hear what happened. Like, that's all I want to hear. I want to hear the facts and I want to make you qualified or not qualified, but my own thoughtful decision on what I want to do, which you're willing to do too. You're experiencing the same situation of life that I am too. Why is your thought process better for me is my thought. Like I just don't get it and I don't know this whole thought process of it comes down to virtue and it comes down to ego. It's the basis because it seems like if you overstepped, they always say it's like, well I got it so you should get it it's like what so if I get a Tesla because I'm helping the universe when

an actuality there's a whole fucking side problem of pulling lithium from the fucking ground I'm virtuous because I have an electric car so you should get one too like what are we talking about here because that seems like a slippery fucking slope. Right. You know, like, what, where do you draw? Yeah, where do you draw the line in the sand? Because, and I'm literally riding my bike thinking that after the lady kicks us out of the gym so they can have an hour to sanitize the other day I was in there and I was like, what, what do you guys do when you sanitize? Cause I, because I came back here at 1115 and nobody was in here. She goes, Oh, we come in and spray everything down.

And then it needs to sit. And I go, what? I was like, if I clean off my kitchen table with the fucking, whatever sanitize, and I'm sanitized, whatever the fuck cleaner, I wipe it off, I sit down, I have dinner. What are you talking about? It needs to sit in. This is all mental bullshit that you just came up with. So, peas, people's thought processes, like, let's not fuck around. Please tell least tell me that and then I can be like okay that I get the stupidity of it, but the act I get's reasonable facts is just nonsense

Well, you know and look a lot of what we've been saying makes us sound pretty self-righteous like we have all the answers We clearly do not But when I get on to a plane and they have me another like little, uh, you know, oh, that mask sanitary towel thing, and they're like, that's what's going to save me. I'm going to wipe my hands like I've come in with COVID on my hands. And if I use your little alcohol rub, somehow I'm gonna be okay. But if I move this mask down for any minute on the plane when my last flight that I went on

when I flew back from Denver, the lady, I was drinking coffee and the lady kept saying, hey, put the mask up. And I did, I'm not there to make a fuss. She's doing a job. But then I asked her, I said, hey, do you mind when can we eat the food that you just gave us and she's like oh well whenever you want to And I just felt like saying well you just told me

Put my mask back on twice though. I was eating my did I not eat it fast enough? Is that like a time? No, I remember the lady that does the fucking there We have the lady that does the buckle your seat belts we have it. The lady that does the buckle, your seat belts, or whatever it goes through the whole thing on the plane. She had the end of her little speech. She goes, let's keep that mask up in between nibbles and sips, guys. And I'm like, did you just say nibbles and sips?

What am I fucking three? Like, who are you? And what kind of logic is that? And there's no logic. Well, when you eat, it's not going to pass. But if you're just breathing, it will pass. What the fuck are you talking about? Like, it's not even reasonable.

Like, you got to start being responsible for the words and the actions that you do as a person. Like, that's what it comes down to. This comes down to an individual level. Because everybody's doing this group thing, trying to jump onto this other one way or the other. It's like, okay, at some point in time, you need to take a deep breath and be like,

does this make sense? Rather than getting caught up in the fucking tornado or bullshit, you have to make some decisions for yourself. So we're in there and this lady's like, it's old up, she was like, almost like aggro about it. I don't know if she has an rough day to day or what, but she's like, everybody out. It's 11 o'clock, time for sanitation.

And I go, I'm putting my towel away. I'll be out in a minute. And she's yelling at this younger dude that's in there too. I'm like, dude, you got a bark back. And these two girls are walking out. And she's like, they're both like, what the fuck? I go, I know, that was pretty aggressive.

I was like, we all need to start barking back. Because the idea that you're just going to go go along with shit that's when they regain power any power gained is normally not given back if it history is taught us anything so you need there needs to be an individual basis of standing up for what you believe in and how you feel because it's just a yeah you know I do worry when people talk to me in a way that Yeah, you know, I do worry when people talk to me in a way that doesn't support that way of thinking. Now, there's a lot that goes into it. You can make a lot of mistakes there, but if people are just like, no, no, no, we got to listen and be safe. And I'm like, all right, hold on. You do understand that they, if they take a bit of this power, they get to keep it forever.

Why would you give away the power after you got it? That it wouldn't make sense. Yeah, it's like, but hey, some people want to believe that, you know, the powers that be here, 100% looking out for us and not just themselves and, and that's, that's a bit trouble. I think I mean, all right, let's I mean all right let's jump over to let's jump over to George Cambosa Cambosa voices pretty iconic

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Yeah, it just took me a minute. It just took me a minute to get it down. Do you get a chance to watch those UFC fights this past weekend? Oh, dude, yeah. How amazing were those? Wow. Unbelievable.

The Nunez fight, it was mind blowing. I haven't been that pumped in a fight. And I love Nunez. I really thought Nunez was gonna win. I could not believe that anybody could beat her. But yeah, that chick that came in, the heart that she had, I was losing my mind. Those jabs, those match fights.

I guess so, Pomp. Those jabs took it took their toll when they were just trading blows blow for blow for a minute there that was like yeah it was so entertaining like for sure it was interesting to add a full bar full bar sitting there we're all watching it together and it was the site holy shit shit! Everybody was freaking out. That was interesting. Yeah, and she was just outside of the kind of like range. Right. Just a little bit out of her range each time, and I'm like, oh, this is perfect. What was the name? Penne? Penna?

I don't recall. That was crazy. Yeah, I think it was pen think it was pen it was so good Yeah, I was I so excited and this is no disrespect to any girls that like girls But it was interesting that she had a like had her son up on on the stage. It was a son or daughter I was like oh this girl likes dudes It was a minute. I mean who knew another girl the newness I think is into chicks But the other girl had a kid. Maybe she's whatever, but she seemed that she was not a legend.

Oh, but I think newness, I think newness is adulthood of childhood. Oh, really? They have one. Yeah, they have a kid. Okay. Yeah, they have a kid. You know what?

Shout out to newness. She took that loss like a champ. She didn't make excuses. Everyone's going to one of those. And that's a real champ. She'll be back and it's going to like a champ. She didn't make excuses. Everything on one of those. And that's a real champ. She'll be back and it's gonna be a war. I think it seemed like she was a bit off. Like something and just kind of hit a,

that wasn't her best game against. How much do you think it goes into your head? I don't think. I don't think you're constantly told and constantly here that you're the best. How does that weigh on your psyche? It's got a massive... It's got a massive...

Because then you're just like, oh the fuck is the toughest. I don't think that you like slacked on any of your training, but the same time I mean, case of point, the poignant. Yeah, it's got a lot of trouble. I thought Dustin was going to take that one for sure too. It was like a lot of shit. Two best people that are consistently being called the best. Both lose that you gotta imagine that kind of ways on your psyche somehow, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, have you seen much of George, Camboso's boxing? A couple of things I researched a little bit. He's a stud too. Dude, yeah. Killer. His movements yeah. Killer. His movements, I mean, so the guy he beat,

he wins what five belts from, and that guy beat Lomachenko, which no one saw coming, so this opens up some interesting future fights, but, you know, this guy seemed smart. He seemed like a good guy. Yeah, he had a head wrap. You know, like, no doubt, like there's no thug mentality in there.

Like you see him with his tats, you could easily be like, all right, this guy's well spoken. But no, dude, he is a compassionate dude that is really focused on what he's doing. And the fact that he lost, what was was it over a million dollars for this fight? To win the championship. I mean, you know Look man if you haven't had a bunch of really heavy paydays and then all of a sudden you get a world title shot and they half it Well, everyone you know farts around with COVID like dude that's that's brutal That's the honesty. That's a lot of money to lose.

And he doesn't, he doesn't seem to care. He's just like, now he's gonna get paid. He knows he's gonna get paid, especially with the platform that he got now and whatever. I mean, he's gonna get paid. I said, let's be honest. True. So that's true.

That's something to focus on. If you see the bigger picture, you don't need to focus on this little deal, but yeah. It, it's kind of an interesting thing that with boxing, you win the belts, all the belts of the, of the previous fighter, right? So let's say it's the UFC and you fight Khanamagrega and he has two belts from two weight classes. You still only get the one that is from the class that you're fighting.

In boxing, they're just like, all right, you get all the belts. You get a hand them all over. You get fucked up. For one fight. For one fight. I want to believe that UFC is not shady because you can see the blood, you can see the punches, you can see the chokeouts. But the fact that two upsets, like the idea that Nunez got beat, my buddy that

work was like, dude, someone's going on in Vegas. I always immediate response because the fact that Poie lost, let's give all the value all the credit to that guy as a fucking champion. He's a stud, like to ever sell him short is not possible. But it is an interesting thing whenever you're getting paid to fight, and if you had a different entity that was like, hey, I'll give you 10 million to take a beating and then lose. Or you're going to get paid five million to win. What are you taking? Yeah. I mean, you tell me, I don't know, man, it's an interesting, it's an interesting construct, you know, take, you don't want to believe that. But if you

had an incentive of somebody's like and if they're incentive was I'm gonna put 10 million on you to lose then and to make X amount of dollars because you're the underdog Hmm that would that would make for a good little fucking a good incentive for somebody to do that, right? Yeah, I mean look boxing has been shady forever like for sure and to think that it's not slipping into the UFC I mean that's you know Dana white's a huge gambler like when when like this gambling mentality gets in there everything It's you know there's a lot of shady stuff that goes on like who makes the matchups? Who decides what is the one thing? I don't think that anyone in the UFC gets Incentifies to take a dive. That's what I don't think is true. I sure as fuck. Hope not but it may still be happening in boxing

Yeah, I hope not I mean, I don't want to believe that because you can physically what dude slow-mo of those blows Just get fucking knocked in the face. They're so fun like the camera angles. They have nice like oh my god How are you taking that? It's still standing up, like a lot of those punches are just like, oh, f**king shit, 99% of the people could take maybe one of those, but these people are taking multiple blows to the f**king dome. It's pretty impressive, I gotta tell you. Dude, can you believe that Canelo is going up the 190? Oh, he's...

Like, he wants for Mayweather. Wow. And the way he moves now, if you watch... I watch the highlight fight with... With... Human Mayweather. And, you know, I mean, yeah, Mayweather outclassed him. Period.

And it did change his game, like Joe was saying afterwards, because you watch almost any fight after that and Canelo moves like he's just invisible He's right in front of you and you just cannot hit Well the crazy thing is though this is what's interesting is like remember when he's fighting He's fighting the best guys in the world. Period. Imagine if it was just regular people.

He could just walk up to regular people and be like punch me. I'll give you 10 bucks. Like at a fair ground and you just like swing in and he's just like moving like neo at the end of the matrix just dodging bullets. You're like what? He's in your punch three chapters before you even wrote the goddamn book. Yeah, yeah. He he actually decided what how you were going to punch before you did. It's not. And he's just like, I mean, that sounds like rhetoric, but it's probably the

truth because if you're when you're training that hard, you're that talented. That's probably the case, you know, it's very, very cool. Have you seen much of the Garcia? That Garcia, guys, fights? Yeah, I mean, I follow him on Instagram. He's a fucking, he's so fast dude, he's a monster. Dude, so fast. Like I've seen him do this to the like hand thing, like where you'd like, running your hands together.

I don't have to describe it. Like you could, you know what I'm talking about. You mean punch him? Yeah, but not like punching, but just going. It's kind of thing. I don't know how to describe it whenever it almost looks like uh, the fighting Irish when he's holding his hands like that. And then he moves them like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Unbelievably fat. Like a million uppercuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good way to describe it. It was, it's insane. It almost areas of shoulders are going to pop out of his fucking sockets. So fast.

Yeah, dude. He has been smashing people left and right. Boxing is really just, I don't know man, it's getting really exciting. I haven't been a, I love that as a kid, because like growing up as a kid through the 90s, you know, late, exactly. We were in the tights out there man.

And then, in the heavyweight to always the most fun. And so, it kind of lost a lot of steam when the only guy in the game was Mayweather. And I mean, don't get me wrong, his fights were interesting, but it was a lot of, you know, 12 round decisions that he would constantly win, and it was a couple of small guys fighting, but I think that... And not to think anything away from small guys, but it really helps when you have a lot of them really making the division excited. Right. And that's what's starting to happen.

And then also the heavyweight division is. Isn't it interesting what's like massively or what's not interesting what's drawn all the money to these YouTube stars Jake Paul's about to fight like these people that are drawn the biggest crowds and the biggest stuff because Jake Paul almost plays this villain now. And people just want to see him get beat down. He's smart kid. and in some regard. He's probably thought it through a little bit because he saw you probably get a little taste of that and see the intention that it provides. And then you see that if you see that, then you're smart about it. I'll just keep going down that road and I'll just keep making more money because people are talking about Jake Paul and talking about these other guys now that as they just like the big fights, but you just want to see an asshole get beat up. They don't really care what the fight, you know what I mean?

That's how I look at. That's even when I say that, we have the post-drop in the barn. And then one of the servers is like, is that Jake Paul fighting again? She's like, I hope he gets beat up. I was like, you just spoke to the exact reason why we want to watch this fight to a tee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So it's like, he just lines up someone that sounds like he should be able to beat him up And then just allows him to go he's like okay, I'm in some I hope would be fucking comes in brox And but I don't know if that's gonna be the case. I'm sure if I'm if I'm Jake Paul I'm training every fucking day. I want to be a monster like I'm pretty sure that's where his mentality

It's too hopefully hopefully he's not just party and I don't think he is. I think he really wants to be a monster like I'm pretty sure that's where his mentality is to hopefully hopefully he's not just party And I don't think he is. I think he really wants to be a boxer Yeah, he takes it seriously, but I mean, you know, you can't put him again someone like George Like when's he gonna fight someone who's a legit fighter that no really knows what he's doing Like put him in there with a real boxer once These are all these are clown shows, man. They're popular clown shows, but it's a best. It's, it's celebrity death match or whatever that I would suggest and think would be the best match up for him if that were the case.

Well, saying that I couldn't believe that Floyd didn't knock out Logan like, okay. That's what I'm saying. So what does that mean? Did they have some back end agreement? Like, how did Floyd not knock him out? I mean, look, was this just like a gentleman's agreement? I just, it doesn't make sense to me that he couldn't. He's way smaller, but it's like, he's a pro boxer. If you put a pro MMA guy against someone

that is just started that thinks he's good, even if he's massive, like, dude, a pro MMA guy against someone that is just started that thinks he's good even if he's massive like Dude a really big guy against Conor McGregor and that guy just started doing MMA Conor will destroy Destroy no chance against Conor No chance zero no chance Dude zero chance zero. We're talking it wouldn't it wouldn't be 30 seconds probably and Last he was just fine around dude. He knocked out although in 13 seconds Although was the champ for a decade. He's

He's whole of fame like these people are basically Magicians like it doesn't make any sense what they can do so yeah I didn't really understand the Logan Paul Mayweather fight. I felt like I don't know right I don't want to take anything away from Mayweather. He's amazing But like it just didn't seem to make any sense. I just felt like he could just walk right in there and just punk one uppercut. That one make for a good TV, what a... I think that's the point we're making here, man. Right, right, right.

That's the point we're making, yeah. It doesn't make good TV, so that's the thing, but it's easy to just be like, well, you know, he's getting older and blah blah blah I'm like I Train with people that are good at fighting and you'll realize it doesn't they could be 65 They're gonna knock you down. Yeah, it's choked out those are undeniable jokes Right let's jump over to um, but uh But why the hottest born male person I've seen.

I don't write that. God bless her. Right, it's holding that together. I didn't even realize when they started talking that it took a while before they bought it. Oh dude, I had no idea to be honest with you. No idea. I just knew she was a YouTuber and I was like I didn't watch any of her things.

I pulled it up quick and like one of them she's like eating a hot dog. I'm like alright I'm not going to't watch any of her things. I like pulled it up quick and I like one of them, she's like eating a hot dog. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to care for any of the videos. But it was just one of those like quick judgments. Like, oh, who's this young check? And then she, you know, got into kind of what she's been through. What's happened? She's not articulate person.

I'm going to start falling or not. We're talking about it. I don't know why I didn't start there. But she's incredibly hard to do it And those are shit, too, like it's crazy. I think she said that She's had Antifa show up to some of her things and they've called her transphobic She is a trend trying that seems unusual, right? How can you support that argument? Unreasonable unbelievable seems unusual, right? How can you support that argument? It's so unreasonable, unbelievable.

Yeah, yeah. And you know what? I'm hearing, I'm hearing a lot of that type of talk at the moment, like people will say, with some of my views that I'm not being scientific. And I know that if they took a Difficult science class they would immediately fail and I'm just like well what are you wouldn't you like a lit major? Like how am I being on scientific? I did my pre-meds, bro Like what I think that's pretty kind of Points to the story of what's going on in general is just people kind of points to the story of what's going on in general is just people

Say things that they hear they don't necessarily do the research right? There's are firing back I Dude I don't know what research are we doing like that's good. That's a very little and it but that's the point too I'm not like slamming it down someone else's throat. I'm not telling them how they should be to her credit She's just like don't don't tell them. She even says she said something about what what they say was a medical condition that one 50 year old dude that went back to that junior college to go play basketball and you see you see that image. Yeah he's like six foot six seven just thoughts crushing high school just crush no those

are on college scholarships and you're playing against those fucking girls and you don't see anything I mean you look at that picture of the group photo and you're like uh how is that even reasonable like that that that that that kind of that kind of mentality and like how do you support something like that without Joe made and Joe made reference to that one fighter who acknowledged the fact and made a transparent that she was male to female, and then the other fighter still won the fighter,

and he was like, that makes sense, that's cool, as long as both parties know what's going on. But if you don't know that the other person became a girl and it was originally a dude, and that's the narrative you're trying to portray, at the end of the day you're just a dude beating up a girl. I hate to say that. Like, like, yeah, but, and I agree with that, right? But also, okay. So then let's take it the other way and say, well, as long as you tell us, but then you're back to that 50 year old that shows up and he's six foot nine. He's coming to one.

It's like, okay, whether he tells people or not, it's still a ridiculous, incredible card. How do you defend something like that is unbelievable? Did he do it like ironically or he really does? I don't, I really don't know that, I don't mean that I don't mean I don't know the whole story but did he just do it just to be a painting? Yes or he's like oh no I actually feel like I'm a girl and like I just happen to be ginormous and really good at the sport. Well the fact I mean too there's only been like there's a guy that from the NBA that went back to college to become a golfer

and he had still four years of eligibility I think can't remember his name, but he was either way, Jay, Jay something, but similar story, except he's a dude that went back to be a golfer, it'd to be a 50 year old male that has transitioned to be a female who happens to have six, six students at 250 and he goes back to go have, to go win basketball championships

at a junior college. Yeah, that seems a bit ironic. I hate to say that, but either way, do whatever you want, but the fact that some people can defend that, I mean, that's his choice. It's like, is it, would you defend that for even, I mean, I don't know, it's, it's an interesting thing. Yeah, it's a tricky one. I mean, you know, it just, look, Yeah, it's a tricky one. I mean, you know, just look. I don't know. I mean, look, take Blair, for example.

It's not like she thought that she knew, like, four or five years old. So at that age, that's very young, always felt different, but then made the transition. She's not famous and rich now because of like unfair male attributes that she brought into a female world. If you think about it that way. Like some of it may be due to the fact that she's you know a famous transgender person and that's picked up steam, but like it's not like she's coming in with this ability to fly in a world where everyone can walk. Like she just can't she can't do it's not that she

can potentially do something amazing. She's just an interesting person to talk to or listen to. They went through a traumatic thing and has some kind of feeling about that's an insight completely that's how it that's how I saw I couldn't agree more that makes so I mean that's totally realistic and incredibly rational I got to say watching her and I didn't I can't remember the other person they somebody angel I can't remember what his body angel or something like that. They were alluded to it. Or two of the, like, two of the people that kind of stand up for transgender.

I will say after watching her or watching that on photos, like, okay, if anybody had any question of this is a real thing, that solidifies it for me. Like a hundred percent, that this is a real thing that real people it for me like 100% that this is a real thing that real people do She clearly feels some kind of way. I mean to judge You know, I mean like I don't know it's a weird thing to be like born in a body that you don't that you That you it's a dismiss so like you need to appreciate those people because that's got to be a huge fucking problem You know, I mean that's got a suck to be them. I don't want to say suck, but only because that's gotta be a huge fucking problem. You know what I mean? That's gotta suck to be them. I don't wanna say suck, but only because it's... It's so... it's a small portion, so...

I don't know, it was... I think it was a good speech for her to have. Dude, it's gotta be hot, right? There's no doubt that that's gotta be so difficult to deal with. You feel some kind of way, and it doesn't go along with the normal process of yeah I'm thinking of all the bullshit that you have to deal with like weirdly and then all of a sudden you like wake up one day or like however you just exist your whole life and you're like wait a minute what I'm sure why can I wear dresses again she got bullied a lot of the time she even said that kids are so mean she's like at four years old they're calling me a a faggot. And I'm like, geez, that's got to be rough, man. Like that's got

to be kind of conceptualized that and think of that. It's like, I mean, that's got to be rough. I felt for her. She also talked about how they're starting to do transitioning at young ages now, which is an interesting thing. And she saw it call it a social contagion. Like, I'm sure that some people feel some kind of way, whether they get these surgeries, and then, like, by the time they're 19 or 20, they were to get it at like 12 or 13. They're like, oh, I made the wrong decision. But now I don't have boobs anymore, and now I don't have such and such,

whatever you want to call it. So it's an, you know what I mean? It's a weird thing to think that social media and all these influences from different places can influence how you feel and then maybe make a decision that maybe you don't actually feel, but it almost feels like popular at the moment maybe. I don't mean to be insensitive or dismissive,

but you might regret it 10 years later, you know? sensitive or dismissive, but you might regret it 10 years later, you know. Yeah. That's a yeah, that that that is a tough one because you like think about the commitment that you need to make for this sort of of a move. And you are young, you know, I'm glad, dude, I'm glad I didn't get a tattoo when I was 19. You got a barbed wire on your forehead. Wait, it's 21 years ago and it would be, like, there is 100% sure that I would regret it today.

100%. Like, it would not be what, yeah, it would be some sort of, like, really bad tribal, something. Now, I'm not, I'm not equating that to the same thing, right? Like, I'm just saying that at different stages of your life, you could not always but feel different than you did in the past. So if you're making extreme changes at certain points, it's, I'm sure for some people people it doesn't work out. Now for her, it seems like it would have worked out at any point, but she's still glad that she didn't do it young. And she also thinks that other people shouldn't either, even though she was sure

that that was the way she felt. And then I, that's, that's, she makes reference. I think that's just reasonable. That's smart. That's, that's responsible. I think that's responsible as the right word. Thinking. She does make reference to that one child, our kid that transitioned when she, I can't remember if it was a he or she, that transfer card. I don't want to use the transition at like 12. And then they just moved to a different state

and started calling her their daughter, the supposedly of son, but they just like all the sudden had a daughter rather than the son they just changed the narrative because they moved to a different state and I was like huh? Uh huh. Interesting story. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean it's it probably in some ways you know think about it.

That's an unusual event to take place. So that would be a very supportive role as a parent just to be like, listen, we have this, which is unusual for parents to deal with. Like it doesn't happen very often. And if we're going to support them, then, um, I mean, if we have a kid, you know, like, if you have a kid, you're if you have a kid, you're going to support their decision, you want your kid to be the happiest. They can possibly be, you might want to pump the brakes on, let them change their gender

at 12 to 15 from my perspective. I don't even know what the right age is. I feel like 18 would be even 18 Joe talks about your pre, your prefrontal cortex is still not even developed yet. So maybe wait till that's developed and then you can make whatever decision you want. But allow if I don't know, I don't feel one way or another about it. So I mean, it's just an interesting thing to contemplate. Yeah, I wouldn't know the an answer to something similar like neither of us have children. So it's like we're out of place to say it, but if it was clearly that all their actions from the moment they were born pointed that direction

and they seemed very comfortable in that narrative, then I think that under those circumstances, I would be more inclined to support them younger. I guess my only concern would be, to support them younger. I guess my only concern would be, you know, and I'm just trying to guess like, if I was, are you clanking around? How much ice do you need? I have one clank. Go ahead. I swear to God, bro. I fucking swear to God. Trying to make a point. But yeah, if you have a kid that just is like acting out and one year he wants to be Full-on-goth and the next year wants to do this and the next year is this and then all of a sudden is like you need to call me Zeeza and then after that he's like I'm wearing a dress and you're just like Dude, are you just fucking with me?

Yeah full-on country and I'm just like I think you're just doing everything You like rap music now, now you like Nirvana, now you like fucking slipknot. Right. Yeah, full-on country. And I'm just like, I think you're just doing everything to win one. Which is curious, because then you wonder how many like outside influences can dictate your behavior. Because maybe you don't feel that way originally, but if you saw some or heard a story or how to different influence, it could shape your perception of reality and make you motivated to do something a little bit different, right?

Yeah, talking about that, what did you think of her DMT trip? The scene gestures. The like full-on gestures. Yes, Joe made that's cool. I like how she said that she didn't have any feeling of God throughout the whole time and maybe that's my perception of God too, is that I look at God as Mother Nature to some extent, not necessarily as some beer to do in the clouds. It's like I look at God as like biology.

And I really, I made a note about that. Like it made me want to do TMT, because she was like, ego just dissipates completely. And she's like a the only thing that ever made me feel like there might be a God. She was, I was never be a god. She was, I was never a religious person. She was, I'm not even atheist. She said, but to see that,

and to see the ego, and to see all that dissipate was growing experience for her, right? Yeah. I mean, I haven't done that version of DMT, but after hearing it, I mean, look, she did it twice in two weeks. So it seems like it's less kind of mentally disturbing is doing five MEO, because that one kind of shakes you up. And I know people that have done that multiple times in a few weeks of doing it. But for me, I was like, I don't know if I want to go back there again. But the one with the vision where you get to see things, colors, like the, you know, with, with some different entities are communicating with you, that sounds fascinating. Absolutely. Absolutely. Like I really, and, and, and, and, I don't think I've heard anybody say it in a way to where they came back from the trip and they're like, yeah, I'm more selfish or I'm more

than asked. Like it's just like, nah, it's like their egos slightly better or they they want to be more connected or they understand that there's more to our existence. Like I like things like that. It makes you realize that there's a thin veneer between you and, quote unquote, reality. You know what I mean? It only takes what, I don't know how you ingest that stuff, but it takes one puff or one drink or whatever and all the sun you're in this other spiritual world. That's gotta, that's gotta,

that's gotta open some people's eyes because you have all these like set narratives and set thought processes and set religions based on all these things. All it takes is one drink to completely fuck that whole thought process up. Maybe you need to not be so attached to your ideas and be a little bit more open-minded like what's going on? Yeah, but we need remind us all of it. I think that's why this stuff was like ceremonially used in the past where they'd be like right every year you get in you know you do it those and you just kind of kick yourself back down. Did you hear how you described Christianity and how it's been

written in other books he said that it was like this whole religion that all these a lot of people have bought into it was basically boiled down to how do we recreate or how do we continue on the human race that's why they focus on like demonizing gay people and and because there was not a lot of babies back then like there was it was hard to stay alive. So it's like people are basing their thoughts and processes on books that were written fucking however long ago when reality they were written for a reason you know I mean because they were trying to spread the narrative that you can't be gay because we need to keep the human population going because babies are dying

from a fucking cut on their toe or whatever you know it's like yeah it's infected and you die we don't have a conclusion for it so to even reduce that number isn't feasible. That's why we're going to demonize it. That makes a lot of sense, yeah. Yeah, but at the same point though, I feel like how few people do you need to have did not just allow some people to be gay people. Because if, think about it, if everything was about procreation and I get what he's saying, right? So it probably was motivated that way. But if we're looking at overall good, like if you're just trying to keep

all the babies alive that you can for your village and get the most procreation, I mean, dude, you could just have one straight guy and like five G8 nights and that might actually be more useful like he can he's gonna get through the village and the others are gonna Maybe be very supportive with the latest true. I mean I don't see It I don't know I just heard that argument is like not, I wasn't super convinced that why they would be a threat. Well, then he also said it wasn't a accumulation of like mushroom trips because people were eating mushrooms throughout the whole time, I think, or some psychedelic. Or rip. That's right. Yeah, it's like mushroom mushroom ceremonies and fertility stuff.

Remember, a lot of this is just like a fairy, but you have to wonder if the Catholic Church is willing to buy up all the books and try to get on it. That to me is actually the most convincing thing that we should pay attention to. It's like if you try and take it away now I'm paying attention. And the thing is is like that story is not any more bizarre than the actual story I mean Wayne Dyer says that too. He goes the thought of recreation He's like the thought of me showing up here in the first place isn't fuck is pretty bizarre in the first place So the fact that I could be reincarnated. It's kind of that's kind of how I alluded to religion now What would make that you know, I mean like what would what where do you just write you draw the line and what's bizarre and what's not

That's I mean I don't know maybe we should end on that note Let's end on that Let's end on that. I'll tell you what well we got coming up with Dr. Peter Mo I can't I do I don't know they you know, I think that so it's gonna be a week from now that we post So excited for that one and he's coming out with some like shocking info So it's gonna be interesting to see what the media does to like start

Pushing away that narrative. I mean I've already been sent from a friend of mine, something that discredits him. So it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see about like how they try to discredit him because the information he's coming out with goes way against the narrative that they're trying to put. Let's just use the verbiage undeniable. It's not even, it's undeniable. You can say, enjoy it and we look forward to that conversation Anyway, thank you guys as always for listening and You know just on top of it all have some hope for 2020. It's gonna be good. It's really we got Christmas coming up We're gonna have a blast for sure. We got a new year coming and

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