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Episode Date: May 13, 2022

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Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the J. R. E. A review Hmm big week joined us always by my sidekick, Gary. What's up guys? How we doing? Big week, big week. So we got Doug, Stanhope, legend, Tony Hinchklick, equally as legendary, and then radio regime. Right. Before we get started, though, anything going on the world, though, I know, but I probably don't know that much about stock market and inflation and whatnot, but the past few days I know

I have been incredibly down and my account is taking a huge hit, I think it's down 75%. All these crypto things, it seems like the bottom is just falling out. Like, what are your thoughts on that? I don't know too much about crypto, but my one buddy wears the gym today, we're having a chat and he's like, thank God, you didn't get investing

with that node situation because apparently like the mining and whatnot, he was in for like, I don't know, I wanna say between 10 and 15. And then he's like, it's gone, basically. Like it's bottomed out. I don't know about bottomed out, but real real close. So, wait, what's the note? He tried to explain it to me.

Apparently, these like crypto currencies, I don't want to speak, like I know, I have a whole lot of information, but there's a way to mine, apparently, and it's like, I think it's more or less their mining your data. Because the way he described, you just have to like check in and like like like a thing and then I would like break down

where you were at a certain time of day. I thought it sounded really intrusive, but at the end of the day, I think they can hunt that information down regardless, but it was an interesting thing. He called it mining. So I'm assuming that's what it's, that would be my frame of reference.

They're mining your data. Oh, yeah, I've heard of that. I think it's like a way to make more Bitcoin somehow. You like mine your own and you use computers for it. Yeah, buddy of mine that I went on the boat with today was saying that, yeah, he's lost like half his crypto money and something and he's like, well, I'm not worried about it. I just couldn't leave it and see what's going on.

It seems like a lot of... I agree. My brother brought up a good point the other day. I mean, he's not stressing because I think when you put money in the stock market, you need to realize it's a gamble anyway. So this idea that it's not, at least that's how I perceive it. And that's how I look at it.

Like if I'm willing to bet it, then it's willing to be out of my account. I'm not gonna base my sole interest on that. But the idea, I don't know, um, where was I going with that thought? I'm sorry. It doesn't seem good though to like lose because here's the thing. They always say, oh, over time, it goes up and you'll make more money. You know, you're over or you'll be over. But my issue always is, well, you never know when you

want to pull that money out. It only works if you're like, I won't touch it until I'm exactly 70 and hopefully that's not when it all collapses again. I think there's something to be said about. I was going there and just figured out my frame of thought, but it was something tangible. There's not a whole lot of like history on Bitcoin at this time. So it seems like you're investing in something and hoping for something, but you don't really know because you don't have a frame of reference to see what happens, you know? Yeah. I mean, well, good luck to him.

Hopefully it comes back because it sounds like a lot of people are going to lose their shit ton of money, that shit clashes. Yeah. I don't know how that works. It seems, I mean, a lot of people say double down too when it's this, all the investors at this point would say you need to buy more, I would think, because that's, well, because they're probably, they want you to do that. So they're a crappy investments come back to life.

I mean, imagine being one of those guys that has like 20 million in Bitcoin and you think you're just pulling out of control And today you wake up and it's 8 million now. Yeah, you still have 8 million. You're doing fine But knowing that it was that much more like a few days before I mean just the idea that you could lose like $12 million in a week and no, I don't know man. That sounds, I'm not much of a gamble anyway so I don't like to do it in any of the way. That's a weird pill the swallow too because you don't, that's the thing that hides are high and the lows are lows. The thing about the stock market is it's, I don't know all the guys invested are just looking for zeros not no

criticism but like the fulfillment of that it seems like a weird thing they're just trying to find angles all the time and businesses are just trying to navigate you know I don't know. Well they look man they say they say you got to make your money work for you and that's what people are doing. I do that so that's what they've heard they're doing their best to do that. They're rich as hell. I don't know if you're high-grade. Yeah.

I don't know. It just makes me want to hide money under my mask. Every time I hear about things collapsing. I'm like, nah. All right. Let's jump over to Doug and see what he's up to. I mean, they start off talking about the row versus Wade shit, which like, I don't know all the ins and outs. I don't think it's past, but it looks like the Supreme

Court is going to pass something to make that abortion illegal again in most places or if it's up to the state. That's what I think that's the, I think I just heard Kamala Harris say that on a little tidbit today that that is the case. It's so weird how they navigate through this and how the right has to be the right and the left has to be the left. We just find these different issues that have to separate us. It's so interesting. You just have to pick a team too, because it's like if you're, I mean, you already know it's like if you're on the right, you're on the right, if you're on the left, you have to believe a certain way. So it's just like in this situation, this is like

an unprecedented and kind of human situation. I don't know how to perceive it, you know? I think the way Joe, Joe breaks it down, starting to rub, it's just makes sense. It's like kind of dictated on the circumstance and how long the baby's been in the womb. That kind of, I don't know, I don't know where to comment or what to comment. The idea that anybody has anything to say about your body kind of falls in line with that vaccine thing too, right? Yeah, to some degree, I mean, it's interesting with certain laws when you look at being progressive, right? And we move into the future and we don't do things like we did in the past. At some point, you just kind of expect things to stay that way. It's like, oh, we sorted that out.

That's no longer an issue that we tackle, but it turns out it's not really true. It's like, we can go back to any way of living. I mean, obviously, we still have a lot of technology and we're still live in, you know, whatever time it is, right? It could be 20, 30, but some kind of, I mean, is it out of the realm of possibility that one day they could have like separate drinking fountains again?

It's that idea you think, well, no, that will never happen again. We work through that and that's not where it is. But it seems like some things can get changed so far back. And... Yeah, man. I don't know, man. It seems like we're so progressive in so many areas and technology is not, I don't want

to say arbitrary, but I'm trying to think in more like human thoughts that we're a little bit more mindful and at least we're more caring, hopefully. But this, I mean, it seems like it gets lost in the shovel when it comes to that, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Yeah, that was about my big, great man. But I don't like the sound of it. I mean, to me, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

I just think of these like poor women that will be forced to like not... I mean, how many fought make their own choice? Children do you know how many... Yeah, people are in different circumstances. I do have a... I don't want to say a problem, but I do think that Joe raises a good point when he starts talking about late-term abortions because there's a difference between like a group of

cells and then something with a heartbeat like I can get out I can kind of see that angle you know. So it's at the end of the day if you really you got to stick to your bones I think kind of in this I don't I don't seem to live robot I talked to Alicia about it too. She's like I just don't't see why, and this is across the board, the government should be able to intervene with anything that you want to do with your body period. You can't draw the line anywhere. And I think that that's kind of as false in line about their time about all drugs being legal too. I'm kind of on board with a lot of the libertarian ideas to be honest. There's not a...

Yeah, I definitely fold more on that side of things So I would imagine I mean for sure it would suck to have it like eight month old baby that you just word delaying or couldn't find financial I mean that's gonna be a psychological mess up in your brain too like to do both acts, you know I don't know that's that's tough pill, but, some countries have a thing called assisted suicide, where if, you know, under certain conditions, I don't think you can just go in being super healthy and be like, yeah, I want to kill myself. But, you know, if you're terminally ill or disabled or just really struggling with different illnesses, like, there's, I know,

a few countries in Europe at least that will allow you to do that. And they don't let you do that here Pretty sure they don't have it in England either, but I kind of feel like that should be a thing I mean if you're suffering man, it's your choice right? It's your body. It's your choice and with that If they can help you prepare for it so that it's not super brutal for your family and you prepare for it so that it's not super brutal for your family and you know that kind of thing. I don't know. I don't know. With that same analogy I was I was gonna try to flex or say something like that. I was trying to not agree with you somehow but I think about the people that keep their dogs alive until they're

18 years old and are injecting three and four shots into them and they're blind and they're running into them. It's like, are you doing that for you or are you doing that for them? Because I don't want any being to suffer. So if I feel like if you're suffering, you should have the opportunity to decide, hey, I just want to end this suffering and I want to do it in a responsible way and a caring way. Maybe, I mean, it seems like if you were to seek that out, I don't know, man. It's kind of like falls in line with that other discotheque the same exact discussion. It's kind of it Well, you can you can put your animals through like long-term chemotherapy if they get cancers and that's pretty painful And brutal and it's like yeah, they get to live a bit longer, but it's not really cool

I love something you got to just be willing to not let it suffer. That's how I always see it. Like, if you're always in tension is the best intention for the other human or the other animal or whatever the being is, then I think you're coming from a place of grace. So. Yeah, I'm with you.

I agree. The, uh, the, uh, Duggan, Joe Joe what's cool when you get those two together is like that often talk about their early days of stand-up and It's hard to even really think like you see either of these guys live They're so polished and they've done it for so long that it's almost impossible Imagine a time when they couldn't do this at all. But of course, at first, when they started comedy, they couldn't, everything was brutal. And they talk about some of their road gigs that they have to do. And Doug brought up having to go to Great Force Montana, which is like a tiny little town,

you know, that's like, I think like four hours from Bozeman. And having to look, I just can't imagine like having to travel between all the cities here, like doing these gigs for like 50 bucks, get to some place and I mean, you know, I know what a lot of the bars and places look like here in these different sounds, so they're not ideal spots to perform in. And I couldn't imagine that most of the people going in there, you know, 30 years ago, whenever Doug was performing, were like all that stoked that some guy was doing comedy that night.

It must have just been so brutal. So that would have made him what, like, 20 between 20 and 25, I imagine. Yeah, just young. Probably about that, yeah. Yeah, I mean, just young do probably about that yeah Or I mean just yeah no one's listening to it not wearing a cowboy hat. It's like what the fuck is this guy get out of here Dude that guy is he's definitely one of one of one for sure Oh, yeah dude he gave his address out on the pod what a lunatic

It's to it and he's like you can already Google it. It's like, don't tell them that either. I mean, to that point, and just to his personality, like, when they were just, Joe was saying, he just called him a spade of spade. He's like, you drink every day, you smoke every day, but you're relatively healthy for what it's worth. I think that the stress level, who knows? I think he's over the anxiety and whatnot. Who knows? But he seems to be riding it pretty well. Like for what, it's like him and John Daly are the two poster boys and I'm out.

I'm like, are the two poster boys. And I mean, Warren Buffett to that extent, you know, like there's a lot to be said about what stress causes on the body. It's like stress-free life. I don't know. Who knows? But he also said he doesn't like to go to doctors, which I agree with. And he also said, I'm just going to let

this machine go until it breaks. So. Well, listen, he says that now, but you wait till some really funky things start happening with his body. I'm sure he's going to the doctor then. Right. And it's easy to say, yeah, he's doing fine, but that's because he hasn't gone in for any sort of checkup. And I bet there's part of a reason why he doesn't. Supposedly he has, like, two hernias he hasn't fixed. I'm kind of an o, yeah.

Yeah, I'm in a weird spot. I think I mentioned it last week with my wrist too. It's kind of come into a point where I'm just being an idiot. Now you gotta go get an X-ray. I think I'm gonna seek out some Gavin Newsome insurance here. Oh you did what what do you do you risked up joking off really hard jerk session. I don't know. I was rough. No, I just jammed it. I don't know how I did it. That's the gym. Oh, and how long has it been bad for about a good six seven weeks now? So I mean not bad like the pain is manageable. That's the problem But I just haven't taken any time off being a bullheaded David Goggins idiot. So it's probably on me. I'll own that but

Yeah, go get that checked out. Come on. Go go have it looked at Obama care. That's what you need It's all you're right, don't I? Mm-hmm. Oh, and along with that, Joe talks about the three stages of comedy. And I think it took a while for him to get that out, because I wasn't even sure what the three stages were. I did write them down though. Shoot, where did I put that? Oh yeah, number one do anything you can to get a laugh

like that's that's really all you can think about when you first start is just try and get a chuckle it doesn't matter how you do it even if you have to dance like a buffoon like just get a laugh because if you're not getting those early in comedy you're not gonna come back back. You're just going to bomb too much. And then he said, number two, do what makes you laugh. And what are your ideas? So that's kind of important. Like that's that's why you're putting a little bit of you into the comedy. Like what gets you. And I don't really remember what the last one was. I don't remember him ever thinking that you wanted to think or mentioning that as far as like saying think what somebody else would think was funny because that wouldn't be the case.

But. Well, I mean, you know, it's practice too. Like, that's why once you get to the stage two of that, you know, you've really got to practice a lot because obviously what you find funny is not necessarily well, the people find funny. So you just keep working it. Oh, I think the third one was actually the ideas. You take things that you think are interesting and turn that into a joke. That's the progression. That's the progression. I mean, that makes sense. That is a good. Three-step process. If you can diagnose it and start now that well, but it

It's important to kind of separate that with somewhat of a timeline though too I would say because if somebody gave you those three Rules and you started formulating ideas that incorporated all of them early on You probably be way over your head Like that would yeah, that would probably be way over your head like that would yeah that would probably be too much to do. Oh the DMT story was Doug was rough. Yeah he had a that was a hell of a trip him. Yeah. Can you imagine? I cannot. He wakes up and he's saying life he's life and we've already we've already been here like Wake up that I I had a similar

Experience not life eats like that's kind of enlightening to be honest at the end of the day But I had a similar experience. I did that. I did salvia one time. Are you familiar with that? Have you ever heard of that? Mm-hmm. Oh my god, bro. I took like the smallest little bon grip. I'll never forget. I like, I took it and just laid back on the bed. And I remember feeling like super euphoric, but also I lost touch with like anything I knew. Like I didn't even know like what a hand was or like any sense of reality I ever had. I was like, Oh my my and I remember there being a brief second Where I was like oh god? I hope this isn't the end I come back and then like I open my eyes And I came up and I came to and I was like I get it now and I have it like all on tape

And this all happens within like one minute span like a 60 second span and I'm no shit when he said that that kind of resonated with me I was like I kind of understand it. There's like this clarity of a moment that happens sometimes when you do some wild shit that can't really be recreated with just normal life, to be honest. Hmm.

Damn. Yeah, that one sounds weird. I don't wanna try that one, Evo. I have no desire. I have no desire. To be honest with you is like, I lost everything. When I say everything, like, I have no desire to be honest with you. It was like I lost everything. When I say everything, like, I didn't even know what a body was. I didn't know what breathing was.

I didn't know, I didn't know anything, but somehow it's conscious still. So it was like, that sounds terrifying. It was legitimately terrifying. Like, you, everything you think you know. People do that for fun. Can you believe that, shit? You've seen those salvage tapes where those kids like jump out of the window and stuff

Have you seen that they like take they'll take Sion and just like bust out of the window and fall to the ground like it's insane. I yeah What I would not suggest it for for all intensive purposes, but not recommend interesting experience I will say it's nice to have that frame of reference because there was a moment of clarity in there that probably was similar to standoffs as far as life eats life. It's like, I'm always intrigued by nature just how it unfolds in the progression. Like it's amazing.

You was talking. Yeah, let's jump over to Tony Henscliff and crack on with the next attack on a celebrity, which is She pal now you just sold she pal recently, right? I was there two nights before the interaction. That was crazy Unbelievable so so what is the story this guy's like some homeless guy that is like that is pronouns and decided that he would potentially stab Dave Shepelle death. They then decided that he was gonna I mean how did he get in there first of all? How did he get in there? I went to the show. I don't know how many phones were there too and how many nice were in there? Joe brought up a good

point. He's like how many nice were in there to cut the bags open. If you were to see these bags they made you put your phone in. They were pretty advanced. Like they didn't look like you couldn't just open it. It was not a... You know, I thought of that too, but it could also be that maybe a few people that had multiple phones. You know, like some people have a work phone

and they're regular phone. And maybe they just put one in the bag and when it kicked off, they ripped that pin out. And I'm not saying there's going to be a portion of people that will find a way around the security, which obviously they did. The videos were a few and far between relatively speaking. I've only seen a few different angles, but the fact that he did that rushed him.

It was a, it was a knife shaped as a gun. Like the weirdest thing. Why would you ever the weirdest weapon and the worst case scenario could ever think to try and do to somebody because everybody's going to kill you. They think you have a gun. If you have a knife, they're still going to kill you. But a knife is a little less intrusive than a gun, I think. Yeah.

I do. Well, they need better security. I mean, that's, there's no way around it. Like, these guys just need decent security. I mean, he's, that's, that being a task. He brought up a good point as far as hiring off-duty cops and whatnot. Because you and I have work security. I understand that these events, you get paid what? Like 20, you get paid a little bit more than minimum wage.

But at the end of the day, you're just a guy standing around doing a job. Your incentive is not necessarily there. I think they do need off-duty cops or somebody that has an incentive to be there because otherwise, I mean. Well, you got to pay professional security teams, for sure mean I've worked in bars and clubs with so many different security guys and you know some of them paying some attention some of them are just talking to girls some of them don't give a shit just want to go home and then you know some are even like drinking on the job and that's just like the worst case because they're just gonna want to get in fights. I mean it's- I mean, it's-

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it was like pretty professionally set up like we wore suits, work with a good team, our team was mostly ex-military guys, me and my buddy, Ash were not, but we were just lucky to get hired there, and we'd been working at these other bars for like six months, so they trusted us enough to come to the apartment. So there we had headsets on, they would have these little calls, so they would be like, lazy boy on the dance floor or lazy boy in the hallway. And that meant that it looked like there was some trouble brewing. So people had to be ready. And then we had another call that was called 1010. And that meant that everybody had to rush to whatever the location was. Well, oh, and they gave us clip on ties too. And at first, I didn't

know why I was like, why, why don't we just wear regular ties and the one guy just laughed at me and he's like, oh, you'll find out one day. I was like, all right, whatever. So my buddy that I was working with, that I grew up with, is down on the front of the club, just hanging out, letting people in, and he's a handsome guy, so he was getting a lot of attention.

And some of the other security guys Went down that and we're just watching him flow with everybody and it was quite funny to them What wasn't funny to me is I realized every all the security left the main dance floor where I was and some shit started to go down So I'm like trying to figure out how to use my Headset thing to think it. I'm like do I push the button? Is this the button? And I was like hey guys lazy boy on the dance floor lazy, but no one was coming Nobody was coming at all and then they're a fight broke out and I was like 10 10 on the dance floor 10 And nobody still came and I was like this is fucking ridiculous. So I had to get in the middle of it and

some guy grabs my tie So I had to get in the middle of it and some guy grabs my tie Pools it so that he could headbutt. Oh, of course the tie fell off because it was a clip on and he fell straight to the ground And then I was like oh, that's what he has his ties Yeah, and dude then I was right in the middle of it just like headlocking one guy I didn't know what I was doing dude. I it was a mess. Thank God. They were so drunk otherwise I would have just got the crap beat out of me. It was not fun. I didn't know what I was doing dude. It was a mess. That God, it was so drunk. Otherwise, I would have just got the crap beat out of me. It was not fun. I'm not fun at all. By the time everybody got up there, it was just a mess of people laying on the floor and me just panicking. First of all, the only time that I think I could get on board was something like that is if I was

wearing a suit and tie and had a headpiece and I could say 10-10 and I thought I'd be like, all right. if I was wearing a suit and tie and had a headpiece and I could say 10, 10 and I thought, I'd be like, all right, this is a little bit more important than wearing a shirt that says security. Second, second thing that I certainly felt like a badass and silly that went down and then I felt like a companion. Second thing that happens, I feel like if that situation

unfolds, first thing that goes through my head is taking my tie off and I'm taking this thing out of my ear and I'm going to the bathroom. They don't pay me in the bathroom. Yeah. I mean, unless all the other homies were down there, then I'd be like, all right, let's get in this and we could break it up. But if I'm solo in that situation, I don't think you're paying me enough.

Dude, if I had known nobody was going to talk very quickly, I'd probably would have done that too. But I was under the impression that people would be on their way real fast and that was not the case It was not the case. I was holding people in very awkward position laying on the ground And no one was coming and I'm like, I don't know what to do now. I don't know what the next move is It's a wild spot. It was before I did any jiu jitsu either so there wasn't even like a cool choke I had or anything. It was just mostly panic and Holding on I felt for dear like smaller so sliver that but working down here in Venice at Cobb

I remember there was a gang fight that broke out and this there was like one dude snatched a chain off another dude And it was a whole thing probably ten on ten and I saw dude pick up a chair And it was about he thing, probably 10 on 10. And I saw dude pick up a chair. And it was about, he did smash it over the dude, but I was like, do I, do I care about this chair? And I had like that thought through my mind and I was like, I don't care about this chair. And I just moved out of the way.

I was like, they don't pay me enough for this, but it was an interesting moment where I was like, oh, I guess you guys are just gonna do what you're gonna do. I don't have nothing to do with it. Who's a chef? Chief Chad, don't worry about it. Good chas, you got to intervene. Fair enough, fair enough.

Heavy, heavy chas, you got to intervene. I don't think those, I don't think you're picking up a heavy chair too many times, but I agree. That's a good point. What do you, did you see those, he started talking about those immigration, the immigration situation as far as like how many people get deported and how many people are sneaking over the border or whatever it is.

And then he showed that video. I don't know if you had an opportunity to see that, but he showed the video of Mike Pence overlooking all the people that were like, in cages. Oh, yeah, that was weird. It was a rough site to see. I mean, and then he was like, we have watchtowers to see it. Like, that's like not humane. I mean, granted, I'm like, we have watchtowers to see it. That's like not humane. I mean, granted I'm not there.

I don't know the circumstance. I don't know how you deal with it, but that is like human to human. That is not feasible in my mind. It definitely does sound like some shitty things are going on when it comes to, you know, how people treat it the border for sure. And yeah, I just don't,

I don't really get why it's such a bad thing to let people in. Like, okay, you don't want. For cartels. All for criminals coming into the country and then committing terrible crimes or setting up gangs and things here obviously that's bad, right? But there's a lot of people that are just immigrating here for better life. I mean shit. I immigrated here and my life is better. So, what would I don't know? Can we not afford like a really good system to get people in?

That's a good question. I mean, I can see it from a lot of like third world countries in obviously in Mexico, but coming from your perspective, how and what is better living in the US as opposed to UK. I mean, look, there's more opportunity here for things that really is. And there's like an attitude here where if you have an idea or you want to start a business, I think Joe talked about this recently with an English guy, the reporter that came

on a couple of weeks ago. What was his name, Murray? Maybe. It's Dr. Douglas Murray. Yeah, I don't think he was a doctor. Maybe, maybe not. You're right. Anyway, whatever that guy.

And he was, they were talking about attitudes in England and America. And I agree with him. It is something that I've noticed. Like, let's say, you know, let's say we want to start this podcast, right? For example, and then we've got our silly idea for a podcast and we're like, yeah, we're going to make a studio and hopefully one day it can be like something

we do, like kind of full time, whatever. You know, a lot of times people in the US will be like, hey, that's a great idea and that's cool. You should do things that you want to do. And if you're passionate about it and work out it and blah, blah, blah, you generally wouldn't get that kind of encouragement in England. I mean, I can't speak for everybody that obviously, but I noticed it with like my family, a lot of my friends is like, nah, that's,

that's stupid, that's gonna be too hard, you should just get a regular job. So a little bit like that. That's pretty self-reflective to be honest. There's a lot of enlightening thoughts to at least acknowledge that. It's funny that, I mean, not be honest. There's a lot of enlightening thoughts to at least acknowledge that. It's funny, I mean, not funny, you say that, but that is a weird thing to just think that a whole country has like a general mindset of just negativity.

I wonder what that stems from. Like, what, what you start? It's hard to say if it's like a mindset of negativity. I don't know. Maybe it's a mindset of like practicality, like practical, in a practical sense. Yeah, taking big risks and do, you know, it's like, there's survivors over there. That that society's been around thousands of years. I can appreciate that angle. This is the honest. So they're like, hey, do things the work, do things that we've been doing.

Like be a carpenter. You always need carpenter's, but maybe you can't be a YouTuber or a stand-up comedian. And that's kind of reasonable advice. But for me personally, somebody that likes to try doing all the things that are difficult and probably have a high failure rate, I at least like to be surrounded by people that are encouraging, and they do it. I think that that's good. That's a good piece right there, to be honest. I think that you just need to surround yourself with people of the like-mindedness,

but I couldn't agree more. That's an interesting trait, you know, because I have heard that multiple times. It's weird, I don't know. I wonder if that has anything to do with the weather. I mean, it might do. It's raining all the time. Let's go up the Seattle and see if people say the same thing I just talked to a dude from Seattle recently and he was He was like I'm moving out of there

He's like it's still the same price, but the weather's the same and nothing and everything shut down and it's not the same I saw as I interesting he's like the cost of living is the same exact out here in California, but he's like, what am I paying for? He's like, everybody's so divided. I was like, that's interesting. Take, I did not know that, but I did know that throughout the pandemic and whatnot, Seattle was definitely

under the microscope, more or less similar to, similar to, you know. Cost of living here in Bozeman is beyond. It doesn't even make any sense. It's like, you even go on Zillow to look at renting places And you know they had like estimated rent on there the the rent that they want to get for is double that number and they're getting it I mean a place that says like 2000 will sell for four thousand. I think that's across the board But definitely I so interesting. I wonder how Rogan and like Rindella and these episodes are in because the places they talk about moving to are Austin and Montana a lot of the time a lot of the guests

Yeah, well I'd slow down with the Montana one unless you got a shit load of money interesting It really it's like so many people have come up here, it's like things have got expensive and buying property is really difficult and even renting places. It's pushing a lot of the locals out because they just won't be able to afford to live in bows when anymore. I wonder what, I mean, obviously, I think that people are just moving out of major cities at the moment too. I think that a lot, I don't know, it's a weird time. I don't think that people are just moving out of major cities at the moment too. I think that a lot, I don't know. It's a weird time. I still enjoy a ride there, but I definitely want to miss it. Bozeman, I, it looks beautiful too, and I've heard multiple people talk about it.

So that probably is. I certainly is that. I mean, it's, it's an incredible place where I was out in the river today. It was just unreal. You're looking at these mountains. You can't even believe that this is like on planet Earth. It's something else. Talking about beautiful things, they were talking about Tony's... Poor that. The way they were talking. Yeah. Now I've seen it, I've seen his, the comedy stories, Black one. And he has, he has like a personalised plate too and I think it says roast. I know maybe it doesn't. It says something

that's like related to his stand-up though but it's a dope car. It's really, really fucking cool looking. And every time I see those it takes me a second to realize they're not Lamborghinis. That might just be because I'm a bit dumb and I don't like see the difference right away but the new ones are really sharp. I think they look like, I don't know if you difference right away but the new ones are really sharp. I think they look like I don't know if you remember the accurate NSX back in the day. I don't know if you remember that car but it kind of reminds me of that car a lot more. Maybe like a Ferrari but I see the Lamborghini. It's so dope what he was talking about how it comes up five inches,

sort of voids scraping and stuff. I'm just like that. Yeah and it remembers where it needed to do that on the GPS or whatever. I think that's bad ass. I mean, look, if you've got, I don't know what they cost. I think they're like 60 or 70,000 maybe. But I mean, if that's a budget that you have and you've always wanted a super car,

I mean, that's about as close as you need to get to one. I'm still, I mean, I'm still trying the way that Joe talks about the plaid Tesla. It seems like there's not really a different way to go. Oh, yeah, that's the most ball of all ball. But I mean, that's like 140 grand. So right there, that's two quartervets. And you know, you're missing a lot of fun of race car

when you, when it makes no noise but if yeah if you just want to spaceship some part of CD about me is like that sounds awesome just silent friggin speed you know I was just in my buddies s5 50 bends today and it went we got up pretty quick cruising down Lincoln but I was like I wonder where the test is like your face just must be smashed up against the friggin seats. I don't know Dude is the fastest thing I've ever made I mean by quite a long way. I mean just It's unbelievable. It doesn't even make any sense. I would love to go for ride in a plaid

Tesla if anyone out there has one just let me know and I'll come with it. Let's rock that out while you're out here now there. What was I gonna say? Oh I guess I'll zoom meeting time expired. Maybe we should stop being cheap asses and paid. Not five bucks a month so we can talk to each other. We're both going to Corvette so we'll get somewhere. Oh, we are. Get core vets now. What do you think? All right, let's jump over. I wanted to talk about him talking about kicking somebody

compared to golf. That was one thing I want to talk about. How much difficulty was in that? And he was so passionate about it. But it's a weird, have you ever played golf? No. I mean, I've swung a club. I know it takes It looks it takes a shit ton of practice and a proficiency to get really good at golf

But if you're just talking about driving balls from a driving range I mean I was kind of smashing them pretty hard by the end of that first day now They won't go in anywhere near where I wanted them to go, but they were going a long distance away from my body. So I was like, all right, well, I least can hit the thing. But Joe is talking about a person in front of you that's avoiding you kicking them and you're kicking them. I mean, I guess it depends what kind of kick you're using because some are more complicated than others. I mean, he likes to do that wheel kick where he spins around and kicks him. I mean, people can move and then you've just put a lot of power into nothing.

It's very complicated emotion. He made a very good argument. I was going to say that I think you pretty much shut down the golf argument trying to kick something that's moving is different than trying to kick a station or hit something stationary. You can figure that out. But I do see that the conversation is worth having. There's probably an argument both ways, right? I'm sure if you in a room with a bunch of golfers, you'd feel like you lost your kickin' argument when vice versa so that's true story. Okay, true story. Yeah so radio regime now he's Dave's friend I guess he was there the

Dave that attack he was pretty upset and frustrated and he brought up something really interesting that you know kind of really wasn't talked about like Dave could have died. So instead of this just being this funny thing that everyone's like, well that was crazy huh? No, it could be like morning Dave shepel today. And I think that's something that people should really think about in regards to the safety of these people because this wasn't a Chris Rock Slabs or this was an attempted murder in a sense. I mean, think about John Lennon, think about all kinds of people that have been in the limelight that have passed away like that.

Well, I mean, not to say it'd be fitting at all. And I love Dave, but I too. When he brought that conversation up, that thought definitely went through my mind and being naive to say otherwise because What a weird time too like oh it seems like every event is escalating the next event like you know what I mean? I mean in some weird Caught I don't know cosmic way, but it's like they saw the will Smith thing and all of a sudden that happens and then Hopefully we nipped the bud and it didn't a bud when you saw that dude's arm completely jacked up, you're like, all right, hopefully people would be like, we shouldn't do that, but geez. That's not a deterrent thing. Like people that are like lunatics?

No, they're not gonna look at that beat up guy and think, oh, I'm not gonna do the murder I was planning because of that. That's not the way to fix it. The way to fix it is to get Beth's caret. Do we think that he, what do you thought? I mean, we don't know. We weren't there in the moment,

but I guess it's not even worth speculating on. To be like, do we really think you tried to kill him? I don't know. So he had a knife. And he, but it seemed like he, it was his, his plan, I think. I think he posted something on Twitter Saying like Dave is next or something like this. I mean it wasn't good

If you go somewhere with a plan to attack somebody and you happen to have a particular weapon I think it's safe to assume you were planning on using that weapon at some point you knew the consequences prior to that's for sure You weren't just hopefully you weren't just trying to make a spectacle because Jesus what it it makes my makes my heart fast just thinking about it like the problem is we look at it like it was us making that choice right and if it was then you know you would think about things like we think about all our choices which ultimately don't lead us to wanting to kill people. So when it comes to this guy, to think that he sat there really contemplating, you know,

all the ins and outs of what this means and what the impact is and how he're getting trouble, I doubt he got that far. Yeah. That's a good point. I don't know. That's like you said. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know that's like you said Yeah, he's obviously got some mental issues at the end of the day, so

Well, I mean they bring up things like government overreach, right? So in another stance of this, it's like If you take somebody that did that at the airport, right, that like rushed someone on a plane or a TSA and they had those weapons, well the government immediately changes all the protocols immediately. They talked about the shoe bomb or whatever. It's like one person tries to pull up their shoes one time and now everyone takes their shoes off for all of time. And you know, I guess that what I'm saying is there's some sort of balance here. It's like, yeah, there's no protection for Dave Chappelle at this place. He gets attacked right after Will Smith does. And you know, nobody says, well, let's make guarantee that we have the best security and in the other side of it it's like something happens 20 years ago on a plane and then we've got to just go through this

rigmarole forever it's like old ladies have to take their shoes off at the airport. Oh man yeah it's come on. It's that I don't know how you describe that man. It's so fitting with so many issues right now too, even with the mass thing. We've talked about that a million times. It's the same idea. It's this thought process that you need to think for yourself. And we need to adapt that from a larger level. We need to start adapting some logic. And start to gdol.

But I mean, you can't think for yourself about the shoes that make you take them off. No, I'm a choice. But yeah, well, my point is, as we need to maybe start rectifying some of these behaviors and acknowledge that, I mean, you know. Yeah, I mean, this just comes back to the state of the news though. It's like, okay, well, first we have to get good information from news sources that we

trust so that as a nation, people can start to kind of put these good ideas together and then reforms can come from it, but it doesn't seem to work that way at all. I mean, they brought up John Stewart on the Daily Show. And how that was probably the best, most useful news that existed. And now he doesn't do it anymore. That's right. It's like, let's try it. All my news grow it up, to be honest.

Like, I look back on it. That's 100%. It is weird. He's got real, real left. But either way, he's like, he's so good. And he comes from a caring place all the time. It's just a weird thing to be attached to certain ideas, but I think Yeah, even the Colbert. I always thought the Colbert report was really so. He should have stayed doing that. He's so much better. I remember listening to his book. It was like four CDs. I

Well, I listened to that like on road trip just consecutive. It was great. He's so smart. He's so well said to us. Weird watching a guy get Joe doesn't knock him down but he said that he got caught up in the machine more or less which when you're seeking money and you want to be successful as a weird thing to have to be caught up. Joe's in an interesting spot where he gets he's like a one of a kind that gets to say what he wants to say and people still support it you know like the vast majority of folks have to choose a side.

That's the thing. It's like, it's unfortunate. I did appreciate Joe talking about his kind of evolution as a person. Like I don't think I've ever heard him really talk about that as far as when he was talking about being upset with people, being lazy in his early 20s. Like I could kind of relate to that. Like, but at the same time, I needed to look internally and be like, I, because you can see it in yourself, you know what I mean?

That's what you talked about it. Some just resonated when he said that. It was, you get frustrated with people being lazy because you know, that's a possibility that you might be doing or you might explore, you know? Well, he said he was hypercritical of people early in life and was always looking for their weaknesses to exploit them because I guess he was trying to find his own. And in some ways, that's probably a fairly useful reflection.

But in a young person with a lot of energy and aggression, it can probably make you quite augmentative and and I mean a lot of judgment as well generally is is not great because you'll you'll have a tendency to just judge people too quickly but saying that I mean this was in his 20s when he was doing this. And he's also developed into the man that he is today, which is a very trusted individual with a really good outlook on himself and other people. And maybe that's part of the process.

Maybe he had to do that to reach those other parts. You know, we're not born like a completed thing. We have to learn that to reach those other parts. You know, we're not born like a completed thing. We have to learn how to go. I love the way he talks about failure and loss. And he's like, it doesn't define you. It's an opportunity to be resilient. Like, and those are good times to just be self-reflective. Like the way he's talked about that is so,

I don't even know if inspiring is the right word or motivating you don't need to have some word attached. It just seems natural. Like you don't necessarily need if inspiring is the right word or motivating. You don't need to have some word attached. It just seems natural. Like you don't necessarily need to approach loss as negative. Be like, all right, this is a fresh time to start something new. Like, easier said than done in the moment, but that's always going to be retrospect. You just like, if you're going through a hell of a man, you got to just keep going a lot of the time.

I think that that's vital to a successful life. Like, we're learning that and it's a daily process. I don't necessarily know that I've ever heard him make reference to that. So it was kind of just like hit a chord with me here and say that because it was like, it's nice to be so self reflective. And I can look back on my 20s and stuff.

We all say, in my 20s, that I did it up. But I feel like that was like a good thing. And he talked about how martial arts kind of like helped facilitate a good angle for him to channel that energy. You know what I mean? He's like, you don't necessarily have to like me. He's like, I just wanted to be a winner and not a loser. And I was like, dude, I get where you're coming from.

Because you don't have, I mean, as long as you're in the pursuit of winning, you're a winner, but if you just accept loss, you're a loser. I mean, that's kind of what I grasp from that. Yeah I mean that is reasonable. I think you just have to be careful going down that winner route because it can make you pretty you know un empathetic and not really give a shit about other people just yourself and succeeding which can turn it to something about other people just yourself and succeeding, which can turn it into something fairly ugly as well. So there's definitely a balance for that.

But yeah, who wants to be a loser? Like somebody else. That's where probably the biggest amount of depression and humans come from is just that thought about themselves. I mean, yeah, and we always go back to exercise and consistency and all these words, but it it's so true man. It's like Don't accept loss never accept loss

I mean use it as a use it as a tool to get better I think is Is the name of the game, you know, we're all doing it. It's a daily process, you know Right well, it's like Charlie your best to remind yourself that a failure doesn't necessarily mean you suck He just meant that you didn't get it right or it wasn't meant to be and Just watch your own process like did you put enough time in did you work hard enough with it? Did you plan well enough? Did you practice enough? You know, did you do enough homework? I mean

you know, did you do enough homework? I mean, often times you'll find something in there in that process that you could improve on and just focus on that and then see if the outcome is different and and keep trying. I think it's just the quitting of things which is which is really bad. It's like you get a failure and you just stop. And if you notice that pattern in your life You know, it's a really good. I mean, I've had it for sure lots of times But I tried to identify it and then go ah shit. Yeah, I've been quitting a lot of these things I really should go back and find out why that's happening and see if I can

Memes recently that was kind of home, but it was like if you try and you fail You did more than like 99% of people because you tried but the idea that like you can at least have a like look back It'd be like I failed then you can build on that people appreciate failures people appreciate humility People appreciate learning from your from other experiences and getting better because of it. There's no appreciate learning from your from other experiences and getting better because of it. There's no map or code of how to do this life. We're all just kind of moving through it, figuring it out. So it's like loss and failure are building blocks in that process, I think. Oh, for sure. And I mean, on on top of that, you know, it goes back to what Rady was saying about Joe, how he's's diversified in his career,

because he doesn't, in some ways, trust just one thing to work. So he has multiples, and we kind of fell into some of them, and didn't expect them to pay off, but like all his strategy keeps working out, it got better at it, and it worked. But then also talking about kind of, not that Joe is a doomsday prep of it,

he's like prepared, he knows how to hunt, he knows how to get food, he thinks about what would happen if the power goes out. I mean, at the end of the day, it's like an overall not really trusting other people than himself to keep shit moving. And there's something to them, man. I mean, people often sit, but I know we did it in LA. We just sat there, COVID came and we're like, oh, the government take care of it. And then we just watched the state completely destroy itself and we're like, oh shit, they can't do it at all.

I'm so glad he eliminated that point and he brought that up. It's, I'm a piece in the cog too, but I like the idea that I now that now I'm going to think about it and I have thought about it, but hearing him say that definitely provides a new light and a new perspective on it because we all need to be thinking about that. We all need to embrace that. That's not just like a him thing. We can't just be like, all right, there's a few people doing that. Like now that we have that information, it's our responsibility to be like, all right. If we all are thinking this, the fucking people at the top are gonna have as much power

because it's not gonna be as many sheep just running around. People are gonna be questioning things and looking at stuff and wondering why and asking valid questions that provide, we're all just kinda moving through. Like I think you made a good analogy right there during COVID the governmental figured out and everybody's just showing up to work with their cup of coffee sitting by the

cooler theoretically or metaphorically doing the same shit it's like we don't know if a solar flare hits when he brought that up I was like oh shit that's a good point I think that it's I mean think mean, think about your situation. If the power went out right now, this second, and all the power's gone, like, what are you moose? Like, I know what I do. Like, half of the people I know up here have generators. Half of everyone else is a hunter,

so they've probably got like three years worth of food. And, you know, everyone, and they know how to get more of it and the survival The factor up here would be incredibly high like plans would be in place fairly quickly and You know stuff with star movie, but you're right in the middle of Venice. I mean dude to be honest. You'd be fucked I'm resilient. I'd figure it out but Yeah, well, to give it a week you be eating people in the sea is my time to come up with a plan obviously

we'd come up with a plan first and foremost we diagnosed the situation and see what I want to bring this up about another mention this that liver king situation that guy's bounce back on Rogan and said he's all natty and he's all natty. Well, so you can say whatever he wants, that he's testing, but send him over to Usada and see what he can do. That's what we should do. I think that's a reason for explanation

because you can't just say, well, he did, and to his credit, he goes, I appreciate Joe mentioning me. He's like, I'd love to come on the show someday. He must have a PR. He was appreciative of it. It was great, the way he said it, to be honest, he was like, I've never done that, but I appreciate him reaching out. He approached it pretty eloquent.

I gotta give him credit. I mean, Joe was a big crueler. Not cruel. He's just like this guy looks jolly. And anyone that looks that big probably does. I follow him on Instagram and he every day is posting some intense workouts that would justify him looking the way it does. So I hear what Joe saying, but if he's truly living the lifestyle that he is, like, it's a possibility that he could live, look and live that way. Dude, he's an unusual size. I don't know how I would work out. So he's either massively genetically gifted and it's

just a possibility. I don't know. I'm not I'm not taking a stand here either way, but it's also like he's ginormous. I just like to believe that it's that would be the biggest dude at the gym life. I like to maybe you can do it that way, but I don't think like 50 shots of blood like not that makes it big It is a weird thing. It's a weird thing, but who knows I I I think I think you're under his Instagram spell hey, hey, hey, let me stand back. I say let's send him over to usata That's I think Joe should just fire back with that. That's fair

That's that's yeah, then we can solve the problem right that's that makes sense Let's get some p-test going. I mean that would be a super bullsie move for him if he is natural I'd want to prove that is how I'm like and to say oh why should he have to prove it just because that's a dumb argument Well to dumb argument. Let's just prove it but Yeah, but it's but like well, but this is kind of who you are. You're a guy that doesn't look like you are natural, but you're selling this natural idea of

whatever it is. That's a bull test. He doesn't look like a dude that's roared it up trying to be in like bodybuilding competitions. He's just jacked. Like he looks in. Yeah, but there's levels to how much you take. I mean, it's not like you're on it or you're not and you're Mr. Limpy's size or you're not. You can take like low dose. Let's get him get. Let's get him massed out. Lever King, let's send you over to Osada

and let's put it to rest. All right. Challenges out there. My God. He's like listening to rest. All right. Challenges out there. Oh my god. He's like listening to this. Like, okay, I mean, sir. Rogan said it now. These idiots. I'll do it. All right. Well, that's it for this week. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Thank you so much for listening. As always, check out our website, all the links in the bio follow garret on instagram and you can watch his you know a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot Thank you guys so much and we'll see you next week. Peace and love guys. Peace.