Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 272 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Black Keys Et al.

Episode Date: May 20, 2022

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn. My heat every the worst podcast with the best one. Two, one, go. Enjoy the show. Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. Join this week by my buddy J over in Ohio.

What's happening, J? Hey, hey, hey, Ohio says hello. All right, so we've got first up black keys. Ohio. And then, they're that from where are they from Ohio Ohio, Ohio. Yeah, can't Nackron area. Yeah Northeast Ohio. There we go. I This band is awesome. I haven't heard the new album Joe said he loved it. I got a bit of a review from somebody today that said it wasn't as good as

got a bit of a review from somebody today that said it wasn't as good as some of their previous stuff, but these guys have always been good. I think they're a phenomenal band and incredible sound. Yeah, I mean, obviously they get a lot of hype and play up here in Northeast Ohio. We got the rock call up here and that par lays a lot of love for rock and roll in general. And yeah, they do have a very unique sound like Joe talked about. You know, they they they they have a sound that's all their own and they've just been kind of consistent pumping that out. And it's it was crazy for me to think back that like when they were talking, some of that stuff goes back 20 years almost, which is just wild.

And I didn't even realize that those guys in myself are fairly similar in age, which they just, I don't know, they've always come across as seemingly younger and not as round as long, but yeah, they just been doing it a long time. It's just time flies is really what it is. It's like, I remember when so and so it came out and you're like, oh, dude, that band's been around for 30 years now

Yeah, and I I don't know if you've experienced this because I think you're a couple years younger than me but There reaches a point. It's like it's like a cliffhanger or like you just everything falls off the cliff where There's no everything just runs together like oh, I'm young, I'm young, it's childhood stuff, it's this, it's that. And then all of a sudden you're like, whoa, all of that was a really long time ago. And that just all kind of happened to me

in the last six months. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy how that goes. I love how the band was named. Like, I always wonder how bands come up with names and it's often such. Like, you think that they sit around forever working and like, just putting all this time into the name and how the hell did they come up with such a great name in X, Y and Z. And what was it? They had that aunt's friend. It used to call one of their houses. And would it always just,

well, talk about black keys or something? I think it was something about a dad of one of the friends who was into this really strange art. And then he would say something like, oh, you're, and by the way, those dudes have great voices and personalities for radio and podcasting, don't they? But he'd say, yeah, oh, you're this, you're a black key. And that's how they got the name, yeah. Right. Well, look, Pat definitely does.

The other guy doesn't say much at all. No, he probably said like, I Don't know five sentences the whole podcast, but I feel like Pat could just go on forever. Like he's such a fascinating person to listen to and so interesting. It's like Rogan didn't even say a lot. I noticed this the last time the keys were on. I just feel like he needs his own radio show, just promoting other bands that are like like that he's kind of music but up and coming. It would be like a perfect like serious show or XM or whatever those ones are. Yeah he was great man. I think he just brought

his buddy along to a smoke Joe's dope you know yeah because he was like he's like me bro you know like I don't handle my weed very well and so so Pat brought his his bandmate long to like hey you know Joe's gonna throw some weed at us So can you come along and smoke this for me? Yeah. And he just gets so high that he doesn't say anything the whole time. Yeah, that'd be me for the space. Yeah. Okay, podcast is over.

Oh, wow, damn, that was quick. I love that story, where Pat was talking about making all those prank calls. I mean, so perfect and so hilarious. I don't know if you ever had a time in your life where you did that. Oh, 100%. Yeah, I had a time in high school where I felt like a year for whatever reason.

Because me and my buddies all worked at MCI Worldcom, right? So it was back in the day when you'd sell long distance phone services for homes because you know, I had like in-state, out-of-state, you pay all those different fees. It was a whole thing. So when people had like landlines,

well, because we did that job all the time, we were so comfortable on the phone that we used to love calling people and messing with them, it was brilliant. It's a bit cruel, but it's funny. Well, I did a lot of that like in sixth grade, and it was funny to listen to you. And I'm listening to him talk about it,

think, you know, hopefully as a good umbrella insurance policy, because people are so crazy these days, you know, I'm like, I don't know if you, how much, you know, unless you're those four idiots on TV, how much prank calling you should be doing, at, good for him. I mean, I just remember doing stuff like calling the bowling alley and being like, hey, you guys got 15 pound balls and they, oh, yeah, how do you walk? And then

you hang up and we all laugh, stupid shit like that. That was my extent of prank calling, but it was always involving something like that. I also love the Santa Claus story, when you were tripping on mushrooms or something. Remember, or LSD, I forget it was one of the stories. It was early on in the cast, but it reminded me, I feel like, and I've run into a bunch of dudes who have Santa Claus stories when they have psychedelic experiences.

It's like a running theme. They somehow always find their way into the trip. And I remember when we were in college, a couple of buddies of mine decided, oh yeah, we were always gonna get together. There were a few veterans of mushrooms and a few fairly newbies. And then my one buddy was dating this girl

who was like the typical, oh, you know, never done much of anything, but oh, I'm down for it now that I'm in college. So we made this plan, I'll go over to her place and you know, everybody's gonna eat these mushrooms and you know, we're just gonna hang out. Well, sure enough, we're half hour into it and she's freaking out, crying, making a mess. So the three of us end up saying to my buddy, Hey, man, we're out of here. We're leaving. You see, you deal with it. That was your fault. We walk outside and I kid you not, bro. I walk outside and there's a guy. Well, what I thought was Santa Claus throwing a football with a guy in a jail outfit. And all of a sudden Santa Claus looks at us and he says,

you push these wanna play football and of course when you're like just like mid trip bro like just hitting it. I mean we all freaked out like holy fuck in the car Jay you're driving boom off we go. I swear to God we took a back road in the just avoid everyone as far as we could get to our friend's house who was like a safe space to finish this trip out for the rest of the night and not see anyone. And the speedometer breaks on the car and goes from we were probably doing 30 to all the way maximum Ford Festiva 90. And it's like making this rattling noise And I'm driving and I freak the fuck out dude and I'm like oh we all start yelling and screaming and I come to a complete stop and it might have been

10 seconds or 20 minutes that we stood there yelling thinking we were still going 90 miles an hour because this pedometer was broken and we all kind of looked and noticed at the same time that we weren't moving out the windows. We might have been there 20 minutes screaming thinking that we were going 90 miles an hour. So avoid the Santa Claus. The prime example of the weird shit that happens when you do any type of psychedelics. Was it Halloween? It was Christmas.

It was fucking Halloween, and there was one guy dressed as a Santa Claus and the other one as a jailbird. And that's when we, like, there was this moment when Santa Claus turned to us and said, you fucking put these wanna play football, where like not, and none of the three of us were sure if this was real or not.

So we all had to like kinda look at each other and then realize, okay, we're all three seeing this. So it has to be real, you know. But that's shared with you. Who the hell dresses as Santa Claus for Halloween? That's such a dumb Halloween costume. Well, bless them. What was some of the shit they were talking about

about how Akron, like they kind of grew up when the like industries and stuff had left? Was it leaving when they were growing up? Like what was the deal with that? Is that like the full of Detroit, that kind of thing? Very similar. You know, Akron was like the rubber capital of the US, of the world in a lot of ways. And you know, went through a big transition here, a lot of money left, a lot of big money

left. There's still some old money buried here, but yeah, it's a lot like Detroit with the rubber industry leaving the Akron area. You know, they have, they mentioned Firestone High School, Firestone Country Club, which is one of the, you know, most well-known golf country clubs in the country, because there was a lot of money there. There was some tournaments that were played there. So yeah, I mean, it was a very wealthy area

for that period of time. And yeah, it was just an exodus of a lot of car money, same thing that happened in Detroit. So yeah. And it had just struggled for like decades after that with like nothing going on over there or what? Yeah, I mean, Akron's a very interesting place.

It's got, you know, you'll have a pocket of, you know, you go through a neighborhood with multi-million dollar homes and then you can throw a stone, you know, block over and it's, you know, super ghetto, rough area with a lot of crime. So yeah, that's, and that's kind of what they talked about, you know, crazy things happening at their schools and places like that. But yeah, I mean, obviously LeBron James being from Akron and throwing a lot of money back into the community there and standards

that there's been a lot of change in Akron over the last, you know, 15, 20 years to bring it back to some relevancy. And yeah, it's an interesting town, no doubt. But, you know, a lot of times it's just looked as like a little brother Cleveland because it's not far away And sometimes they take exception with that and and sometimes they like being part of that So yeah, I mean I'm a Cleveland guy so I consider Akron to be part of us, but I know sometimes they don't like that, but Yeah, it's an interesting thing that happened. Like I obviously, you know, didn't move to the States until like the 97, right?

So even my understanding and history of like what happened over previous decades is like, I didn't really know what like was going on in Detroit and how, you know, the car industry kind of left that and so was that mostly just started to be kind of outsourced abroad and that's why those industries were falling apart. They were like making cars in other places for cheaper. I mean I think it was a transition of a lot of things over time you know. You had just steel industry moving overseas. You had obviously NAFTA changing a lot of the way things were produced and a lot of production moved to Mexico. You had other car manufacturers from other countries moving into the market.

All that happened over, you know, a 30 year period. And also as a combo. A combo of a lot of different things. Because one thing I was thinking is, when they talked about that blue gene factory that Pat brought up, or one of them did, right, about the pollution. And then they showed the picture. I don't know if you watched the video stream of this,

but it showed like they Googled a picture of somewhere in China and there was just all this blue dye in the water, which looks awful. And I'm sure isn't good for you. But then I was thinking oh with all these industries that left in the past, it sucked for the economy like that's no good. But you know I'm sure these factories were all dumping a bunch of pollution everywhere too. Now I'm not saying oh it's a good thing that it went abroad and now they have the pollution

like you don't want that anywhere. But I guess in some sense, it's like those towns would have just got super polluted from all this industry, right? Well, yeah, I mean, the fact that the US environment has been able to clean up so extensively over the last 30 or 40 years, is due to a lot of that stuff being outsourcing.

People love that not in my backyard mentality, right? And yeah, I mean, I haven't been to China per se, but I've been to Vietnam, Cambodia. They've moved a lot of production to Vietnam of textiles and whatnot, and I've driven around, and it's crazy. The factories, the way that they produce that stuff, they're like cities, bro. They're cities of factories with people coming in by the bus load. I mean, hundreds of buses busing in these young workers. And yeah, it's crazy.

And certainly the pollution all gets pushed over there. And it's like, you know, people, oh, China's so terrible. Look how polluted everything is. Well, yeah, that's because everything is made there that used to be made here. Makes a big difference, you know, and where all that pollution is ending up. So, yeah, not in my backyard works. And sometimes it doesn't, you know, and where all that pollution is ending up. So, yeah, not in my backyard works, and sometimes it doesn't, you know, but- Well, it doesn't in the long run.

Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, it's still pollution, right? I mean, when Pat brought up that idea of the human trafficking thing, which, you know, we all know this happens. We- people have heard stories about people being shipped in in those shipping containers. And I didn't think for a second about how COVID shot those boats down and they just had to be stuck on there. I mean, imagine how many people that probably died in those shipping containers. Yeah. They've got just enough food to get over here and then it's like, Frank, they just stop the boats. Yep, I mean, that is horrific. Yeah, I mean, hey, but at least we still produce some things here. Like, you know, music videos.

Really, really, really, really big cup. Really, really, really big cup. Dude, I need that on VHS, you know, for my VHS collection, bro. He was saying, I guess somebody sent me that on VHS. I said, I gotta get that song. Sure. And, you know, even going into all that, I loved it when they went into that whole music bit.

He said something like, music is the thing, most like a drug of all the entertainments, you know, and it's so true, dude. I mean, just having the keys on there and then talking about that whole segment at the beginning. I'm music is just You know whether it's video games or or movies or television or whatever, but man There's just the euphoria that sets off inside of you in music is just a whole nother level, isn't it? Just in spies like an emotional response like nothing else

It really just takes you kind of into a trance. I mean, you go to a great concert and it's like everyone is just in it head nodding trance. Like really, yeah. And is it an amazing, like you think, oh yeah, let me dive into this movie or whatever, but dude, you can switch your day up with an album or a song in two minutes.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a good way to get out of a funk. If you have in a shitty day and you put on some good music, it really does work. Yeah, for sure. For sure. What else did they, around that beginning of that? There were some really interesting points

from this one that were all in little tidbits. There was that whole thing about being on those big yachts down in St. Martin or wherever it was With a billion ass. Yeah with all the billionaire club And you know, that remind me something that we you and I've talked about before remember when when that when I came out to film Shark Tank and That dude sucker punched me because he was mad that I had a good joke or something remember He was like steaming all night. Yeah, yeah, we should this. Yeah, he just punches you in the wall

Yeah, I don't know where cuz I had a good like little one liner. He's like dude stop taking any attention away for me that I'm not creating and And then that but the the point of that was they were talking about oh oh, you know, this whole island full of celebrities and didn't you feel out of place and La-Di-Di-Di-Di-Di-Di. And it's like, I've always said this, man. Losers should not hang out with winners, you know? Because it works two ways. One, majority of people for the most part

are kind of like have a loser mentality, right? Which is, and I've always said this, is like you have, when I see somebody doing something bad ass or a good looking guy or a good looking whatever, like I just say, hey man, good for you. I want us all the rising tides, right? I just want us all to be amazing and be awesome. And the majority of people are just haters, bro.

I mean, that's certainly been proved obvious with the age of the internet. It's like, it gives me an example. I saw this one video somebody sent me of this badass, big, ripped, sexy looking dude on a motorcycle doing like a wheelie behind all these trucks down the road forever for like two minutes and I'm like, that's fucking sick.

That guy is a fucking animal. I love you. And I look at all the comments and like, what an idiot what a dope I I hope he wrecks and dies and all that I'm like what the fuck kind of mentalities but that that's pervasive in everything isn't it like and that's why I say winners and losers don't mix well because you know you have very few people that want to lift everyone up see everyone succeed and don't need to bring others down to bring themselves up. It also works on that island mentality when you're like,

even though I was like, at best, ever like a C or D list actor when I was living in LA, you get a taste of it where, when you've done anything of any significance, whether that's probably athletics, acting, music, whatever, the average person treats you very strangely when you hang out with them. That's why celebrities date other celebrities and marry other celebrities because they understand that mentality of how weird it is that other people treat them and look at them and handle

them when they're around. So they end up all just hanging out together so they don't get that weird energy all the time from other people. You know where you can't just hang out and have a conversation. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it makes sense. I mean, because I guess there is, like they say that with comedians, like when comedians date, and you know, it's kind of recommended that you don't date another comedian, because either your career is going to get better or there it says, and there's like this resentment factor, which is probably the initial feeling that people get when they become haters, because they're looking at

other people and they're like, how dare you have this thing that I want? Well, when a couple of comedians date, it's not necessarily that one of them is a bad person and can't encourage the other, it's just that they both want it so bad that it's hard to not build some sort of resentment up. And that's just something you've got to be mindful of. And what's strange about it to me And what's strange about it to me is I love to see my friends do well, right? Always. And why would you not want that? You know, even people that are kind of equated to this because if the people around you are all doing well, you can learn from them and everybody wants to do well. You can just see what they're doing, how hard they're working. Like sure, some of it could be luck, but a lot of times it's just a ton

of hard work, good positioning, good networking, all the rest of it. And if you just watch it and then celebrate it with them, it's a win-win. I mean, you get nothing out of sitting there going, oh, fuck that guy for getting all that. Makes no sense. Yeah, but I think there's just a ton of that. I mean, and it goes in every type of relationship. I mean, I think that's why I mean, people are like, oh, you know, why do I always see all these hot girls with these ugly dudes or douchey dudes or whatever,

whether it probably doesn't have that much rich. Right, I knew you were gonna say that, but it's not always that. It's always like, they don't, those kind of women for the most part, especially like, you know, a lot of women do struggle with self confidence. And so they don't want to have somebody around that takes attention away from them or, you know, challenges their spotlight when they walk into a room. That's that's another thing. So it's it that kind of mentality because human beings are flawed and we have, you know,

we share a lot of the same inherent weaknesses. inherent weaknesses, it takes a long time to become comfortable enough in your own skin where you break free of that mentality, which is the modern term is like the hate or culture or the trolling or whatever. But that stuff is pervasive all over, you know. Well look, some trolling is funny, so I don't want all that to stop. I think some trolling is pretty good, if it's clever. Most of it's lame. Being a hater is just useless. Being a hater is useless. For sure. If you find yourself doing that,

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becoming ever so slightly smarter just listening to you. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. You know, you know, my dad very well, and he was a psychologist, and so there was a lot of, and I tell you, I gotta listen to this guy, dad, he's an evolutionary psychologist at my dad.

Oh, he gave it a little laugh. Like, I don't even know how you label yourself that, or what that exactly means, but whatever it was, the guy was brilliant. I mean, obviously, you know, whatever it was, the guy was brilliant. I mean, obviously, you know, they hit some topics at the beginning before they got into his deep intellect that were right up my alley as far as, you know, COVID and exercise and weight loss and stuff like that.

But, I mean, it's awesome for him to have lost that weight, for sure. And in that weight for sure and in hearing those stories over and over again I mean he was 250 now he's like 170 and just him being able to say like all the things that are better like he you can say a lot about him and even if you disagree with him fine but he definitely tells the truth as far as he knows it to be. So he's not going to sit there and just say, oh, I have all this extra energy. I feel great. I move better. My body doesn't hurt. I don't have that information and just so much about my

life is better. Sex life, everything. It's like, yeah, all of that shit is true. And I think it is important. It's like not to hop on all like the fat shaming thing or body positivity or whatever those things are. It's just important to remind people of the benefits of putting in that work to do it. It's all good. You don't have to just accept what you have and be in this like sluggish painful state that's bad for your health. I mean, I think being really overweight is probably worse for your health than a huge amount of things that we know are clearly bad for you. Drinking way too much or smoking or most, you know, drug abuse. It's like it's hard on your system. I mean,

you're more likely to die of literally everything by quite a high percentage. So it's a kind of encourage people to be like, no, just be who you are and accept it. And I don't know about that. It's, it sounds like a bad habit overall. Well, I mean, they touched on a lot of the stuff that we've talked about before and they did talk about, you know, fat shaming and and, you know, having a positive, what is it, body? I don't even like to overly think about these, some of these nonsensical progressive ideas, but- Oh, body positivity. Or whatever, which is just really an excuse to, you know, be fat, eat whatever you want, not exercise,

and then, you know, whatever. And it's not just about looks, people think, oh, it's about, you know, all that's something about looks. No, it's not just about looks, it's about, you know, overall health. And that's what they touched on as the main point. I think it was interesting he said at the beginning, it's very hard. And Joe said this, I think hard to exercise to weight loss. It is, you have to get to a point, especially once you get over the age of, say, 30 or 35,

where the majority of the work comes in what you're putting in your vessel, right? It's not just about how much exercise you're putting is about what you're putting in, what bad things you're not putting in, what good things you are. And two, I've always said this, you get better the same way you've got sick, which is slowly over time. People want immediate results. Of course, it's why they love Westernized medicine and pharmaceuticals and drugs and surgeries and everything else. But I mean, you make yourself sick over a long period of time with your diet and your lack of exercise and your bad thought process and everything else. It takes years of that to undo.

I know, I mean, you remember I had some serious digestive health issues in my mid-twenties and I couldn't figure them out and I couldn't get quick results. But I got little by little results making changes and undid all that sickness that I created over time and it takes two, three, four years sometimes. So that was good stuff. And then they... Go ahead. Just the idea of fast results, it's not sustainable anyway. You have to look at it like a life journey of things, you know. It's like if you want to get better at doing

anything, it takes a lot of practice and a long time and dedication, you know. You can't go to how to play the piano, cramming weekend seminar and then expect to play. It just doesn't work like that. And it's the same with changing your physical body. You should allow it to take a long time, because what you want is it to stay in that shape that you ultimately get to always. It's like you can't just like lose 50 pounds and then go back to eating cake. It's just not going to work that way. Yeah, the changes have to be, you know, it's not dieting. It's life changes, you know, lifestyle changes and whatnot.

And relating it to COVID, I think that's how they got onto the topic or went right into the topic is like, you know, all this push for getting, you know, double triple quadruple vacks gets your shots, gets your this, gets your that. When there was no talk of the majority of these people that are dying or extremely sick are mostly overweight or have some secondary health condition. It's probably preventable by diet and lifestyle changes. But all we're worried about is jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, jabbing. Yeah, because it's cruel and it's bullying

to say that you have to put any effort into this whatsoever, which is very strange, very strange. But that's how that goes. Could you believe the taxes he had to pay on his book? What did he say? It was like 55% up in Canada. They took like half the money, more than half the money. Well, I mean, I'm not surprised.

I mean, I think there's parts of the world where the taxes in Europe and other places are, and I mean, we do it here, right? You get taxed on the money you make, you get taxed on the money that you spend, you get taxed on the place where you live, you get taxed on when you drive, you get taxed on when you die,

you get, I mean, it's, by the time you add it all up, it's probably 60% over a lifetime. I mean, money comes in, money goes out. Either way, it's going in, out, saved, dead, passed on. It's all getting taxed, man. Yeah. Of course. I mean, look, I know this taxes, and I know they should exist, but just hearing that like, it was over

50% of what he was able to bring in from it. I'm like that is That's crazy up there Yeah, well, he's a big fan of also said them But do what he was a big fan of Trudeau guy up there But is anyone yeah that guy seems like a nut there with the is anyone yeah that guy seems like a not yeah absolutely the recent stuff he's been saying it's just I don't follow in too closely but you get those snippets and sound bites and it's he just honestly does seem like a wacko yeah but that's just me yep yep then they went into what was it, they had some very interesting discussions on, like, you know, media controlling things

and they talked on a bunch of different, they talked on a bunch of different stuff, including like free society and how they looked at other things as far as like that. I think one thing they mentioned was the Biden laptop and how if you remember when that happened, you know, every news station just wouldn't touch it pushed it away. Now a lot of that has been, it's quietly been proven to be more true whatever. And so and they talk about, you know, all these, oh, Twitter's gonna affect the election

this way and affect this election that way. And I mean, that, not covering that story probably had a bigger bearing on that election than anything from that election period. And I mean, to think that, that me kettle, like, to think that they're not doing it has always been so funny to me because it was so obviously done in the last election process. For sure. You mean like the cover up? Yeah, just not covering it. It's not even the cover up. It's just not covering it, you know, so of course that influence

it. And I liked what he said about, I'm trying to remember the terms that he used. Obviously I don't have the expertise that he does on some of these knowledgeable terms and stuff, but how you kind of make exceptions for not being completely ethical or truthful in certain times by looking at it from the greater good. Right.

Remember when he was talking about that? Well, that's such a slippery slope, right? It's almost like they're saying, we know what's best for you. So this is only the information you need. Instead of saying, here's all the information you figure out what is right which is what news should be They should give us all the information and let us decide as people like if they're just gonna If they have that mentality then you know why they even let us vote they should just All work together to just take over the whole thing

You can't consequential and antelogical, that's what he was talking about. And not giving up one ounce of truth for the betterment of society. And I think that's where we're stuck in right now, right? Like I can see the reason why people wanna make some of these changes that to me are not completely truthful or completely in line with personal freedoms,

for me, personal freedom is a much bigger thing than anything else. So you take away a little better, you give a little way of that for the greater good. To me, like you said, it's a slippery slope. Once you start down that road, where does that stop and who gets to decide where and when that stops, you know? That's the big issue, right? Who gets to decide? And at what point it's like,

it's easy to agree with it if the narrative is kind of on your side. Yeah, which in a lot of ways for like the far left it is. So they don't, they think that it's all good. They're like, well, this is the information we wanna hear, So we support it But if that ever switched and now it was them being silenced or their information not getting out They would hate it. So you can't just play that game one way. I mean Joe said something really interesting so he

Anytime he has somebody on the right on he gets a ton of pushback from the left right a ton all the time just emails about how dare you give him a platform and blah blah blah and he said when it's the other way around and he has a liberal person on or maybe even quite a like far left person he has nothing from the Republican end and that's interesting I think that speaks volumes to the different sides. It's almost something I wouldn't expect as well. Yeah, for sure. I mean, the thing that's so interesting is from both sides, the hypocrisy that comes out,

we talked about this last time we were doing this together. It happens within the same day now where there's a parallel situation that you can see and it's just, they can't see the hypocrisy that's going on back and forth and something that they're saying or doing or an action from either side. Yeah. Well, I mean, he didn't even say that there was some sort of like happiness score that was taken and conservatives generally score higher on it than liberals.

And he stated the reason being is because even though both sides think the changes need to take place, the conservatives in these studies seem to be more accepting of how things are and therefore hopeful, whereas the more liberal people just think everything's a mess and it needs to change and the conservatives will ruin everything. What? I've said this for years. You've heard me say this.

25 years ago, I was one of the more liberal-minded people that I knew. 25 years. Oh, sure. 25 years. Yeah, 25 years later, of the people that same group of types of people that I hang out with, I now come across as one of the more conservative-minded people

that I know, okay, which is, and nothing has changed except the world around me, the baseline. And it goes back to the definition and I, that does remind me, Joe talked about, and this is true. If you spend a couple hours talking to me, be like, oh, that guy, and you know me, I'm not, I'm probably more of the, the next guy we'll talk about. I like, nah, I wouldn't say anarchist, but certainly libertarian mindset, you know, definitely a centrist anarchist, but certainly libertarian mindset, definitely a centrist in a lot of things.

But yeah, if you took a lot of the individual bullet point topics, platform topics, I usually find myself falling with different caveats of restrictions and reasons why falling to the left. But if you spend a lot of time talking to me, like, oh, this guy's a pretty conservative minded guy, whatever, lighting nighted out. And that's just because the world has gone so crazy

these last four or five years. And that center point, and I think it goes back to the definition like we talked about. You have the basic words, take the simplistic meaning of those words. Conserve, he talked about conservative, is to conserve what you have now. It's easier to be more happy when you're conserving. This is where happiness is for me, it's right here.

Well, liberal needs to be something more liberal than what came before it. If not, it no longer eventually defines as liberal, right? I mean, if I'm just as liberal as my parents were in the 60s, now I haven't gotten any more liberal, right? By definition. If I'm conservative. I think it's more the word progressive. Progressive is a good way to put it, but- Progressive is, it has to progress. So once you move the line to what liberal is, to be more progressive than that, you have to move it.

So it's almost like that's like a dangerous word in itself. At what point does it become this utopian society that everyone's looking for, or can it ever achieve that based on the definition, or based on the feelings that are created. Like, I want to be more liberal, more progressive than those that came before me to what extent and on what topics and what does that mean. So yes, the happiness score, the sadness score or whatever there was, it seems common sense wise, it would be easier to say. Yeah, it would be easier for people to be happy with the status quo if they're just living and breathing in that space, you know, and not feeling

that there needs to be a change. Now, of course, you can look at that from two places, like an ivory tower princess type of mentality or what people like to refer as, oh yeah, white people, problems or white people privilege. Oh, well, you haven't had to deal with X, Y, and Z problems over the last century or something like that. So yeah, it is easier to look for it and there are people that you know Come from a different perspective that might not see the world in such a rosy light over decades

I get that and that's not the only part That's that's missing there, but that's certainly a big part of it, and why there's always that back and forth conundrum of the dynamic between those two ideologies. Yeah, it's just an interesting stat, if it's true, and I assume it is, like, doubt that he would quote something that, you know, wasn't properly studied. And, and, you know, it's, I mean, we're all here to hopefully try and enjoy the passage of time right so it's not about just being happy and ignorant maybe that's part of it but to always focus on problems and then therefore get

yourself into a negative state it's it's not very ideal for your life like just period For sure for sure. I want to touch on one last thing that they kind of ended with it was I don't know if you heard about the king Velasquez case So he's a UFC fighter heavyweight Legend back in the day. I mean beat Brock Lesnar. I mean, he was just He was a he's a badass and then they talked about the case that he's facing where he would take his kid to this childcare place. And allegedly, this guy molested his kid

like over a hundred times and he chased him down and a car ended up shooting at the car, shot the guy's dad. And now he's in jail with no bail. And I don't know if the other guy the other guy was arrested but I don't know how long he's having the serve for and I mean what a brutal situation all round I mean I don't think that there's a parent out there that not to say they would all do it but they would all think it you know and I think

a lot of them would wish that they were brave enough to go and do that. But at the end of the day, I just feel like, well, okay, what he did is illegal. Chasing someone down and shooting them, that is illegal act, right? The reason he did it for, I think a lot of people can understand, and be like, well, yeah, fuck yeah, right on here. But what is then the point of locking the guy up? Because the idea is you lock him up because you don't want him committing that same crime again. But there's, there was a very specific reason why he did it. It's not like he's just gonna go around shooting people all the time.

Yeah, I mean, I, um, it's obviously a very tough topic. I do know the guy you're referring to, I think I might have watched the fight with you at some point in time over the years. Did see a little bit about the case. I mean, it's like that old Chris Rock or Eddie Murphy bit, I forget who it was about OJ. I'm not saying it deserved to die, but I understand, right? Because, yeah, I mean, there was a priest here, local in Arctown, at a church who got found guilty recently of molesting a bunch of kids

and really being, I mean, just evil about it. Absolutely evil about it and the way that he handled it. Using confessions and talks with the kids to manipulate them online and say, oh, I know you did this and if you don't send me these nudies, I'm gonna tell your parents, like stuff that the kids, you know like oh, you know

I spilled the cereal on the carpet rug or whatever, you know Oh, I heard I yeah if you don't send me and just Manipulating their trust that they put in him and posing as someone else well he hung himself in prison after six months or something And I'm sure you know not many people feel bad for that situation or would have felt bad had one of the parents come after the guy, you know. Um, but that's the world that we live in. And certainly you said, you don't want to have vigilante justice, but the majority of people understand vigilante justice

and can empathize with it, you know. So it's just one of those cases where it's like, man, you know, does he get a pardon from somebody? Does he get a temporary insanity defense? Because I'm sure we could all imagine what it would be like to be in that position and deal with that. I don't know what the answer is. That's always a tough one. And it's something that I don't think will ever be solved when you talk about you know child molestation and that sickness that that is.

It's, it's the same thing. Like people agree with certain things, but then the world makes it very difficult. I mean, even the things that I've been going on in the last week or two about all the abortion things with the Supreme Court and the leak and the feelings about that and whatever else. I mean, the majority of people, I think it's like 70% agree with at least keeping Rovers weighed as it is, right? But, you know, there's a powerful argument to be made even

in the non-majority for why things look that way. It's just, these are a couple topics of things that happen in this country that are just, I don't know if they could ever be solved, honestly. You know, how to deal with child molesters and vigilante justice relating to people that abuse your children, how to deal with abortion and the rights of unborn.

But like these are questions that I don't think if there were ever topics, I think we can all eventually get along. I do. I think we can all eventually be like, you know what, I'm gonna give a fuck what color everybody is. I don't care who you like the fuck. I don't care who you want to marry. I think eventually we can solve that. It might take a few more generations of blending things together. But those couple questions, I think, will be very hard to ever solve in

this country because those problems are, I don't see a solution solution and usually I can see a solution even if they'll take a hundred years. Well I mean pull-guide my heart goes out to because that's just it's so brutal and for him to be then taken away from his child like it's bad enough what the child went through but now doesn't have a father I feel like if this had happened in Texas he would have got a metal for it. Yeah for sure maybe he might be governor by now yeah happened in Texas, he would have got a medal for it. Yeah, for sure. Maybe he might be governor by now. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. You would have been elected for sure. All right, let's jump over to Hotape, Jesus. This podcast is brought to you by Buck Mason. Get everything from shirt,

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even if he is picking a bit of a, maybe an anarchist line, or, you know, in England we call it being cheeky. Like I don't know if he truly agrees with some of the things that he's saying, but he likes the, he likes to stir the pot a little bit, which is fun. I mean, remember he's an entertainer, so it makes sense. But yeah, I do like his style. That's for sure. I'm not saying I agree with all the things that he says, but I like his style. Yeah, I mean, I didn't know much about him. And certainly, you know, he, sometimes he's marketing himself or marketing an idea or just marketing some crazy stuff to say, which you know, I wouldn't be a post to that. I'll do the same. And, you know, like Nucky Thompson said, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, kid. So, you know, I think he's definitely selling himself sometimes. And I'm not a post to that. But yeah, I mean, he has some ideas you could tell could tell you know What's so fascinating about some of the people that that come on the show

What you listen to three or four things in a week and you get such varying people but you know and different kinds of Intelligence or smarts, you know just the three guys that we're talking about today you know you have International Multicultural today. You know, you have international, multicultural, professor, right? The school educated, you know, you have this other guy who's very entertaining. He obviously has a lot of, you know, street smarts and common sense. And then he can also be a little crazy with his anarchist ideas or

other things and then you have kind of the black keys Northeast Ohio guys who which obviously I can very much relate to who are just you know blue collar town very much rooted in common sense and some street smarts and you can just see the contrast between all these guys but yeah hotep certainly man like some really cool ideas I love to see guys that come up from a different path. Oh for sure. That's why these conversations are so important and this is why Rogan's the top show in 91 countries and by far the biggest podcast that's ever existed and probably will be for a long time. I mean, you know, even when you get these articles every now and again, where they're like, Rogan's been kicked off the top spot of Spotify podcast. And it's, it's

kind of a bullshit little article that people pull on because of the way the algorithms work. It's not even like a total downloads thing. It's like a ratio of growth, like how quick the podcast grow. It's a brand new one. So the numbers kind of skewed a little bit and spiked. But nobody's touching them. Nobody's close to his numbers at all. And it's because of these reasons. Well, those guys were talking about the fact that, you know, what's so beautiful about Joe. He was like, Joe's winning. Joe's got all these viewers. Joe's got all these people is that this so-called silent majority or whatever. I don't, yeah, a lot of people like to label the silent majority as

like these far-leaning right people who weren't getting their voice heard. I think the silent majority is the people like Joe and Hotepp and people getting on there, just talking common sense and realness, right? And being in the middle somewhere, not being on, they talked about all this stuff, not agreeing with the group think of every 20 bullet points on your platform and having six that fall on this side

and 10 that fall on that side and just being real. And that's what I think scares probably both sides of Joe's popularity is that he just goes on there and he's just a dude, a real dude. There's some caring, there's some lion heart, there's some, there's a little bit of everything that we need in this world to kind of survive and thrive. And I think that scares a lot of people.

Well, that's why that argument that Joe sold out for 100 million and that's why he went to Spotify is a bullshit argument. Because really what was happening is, and Joe and Jamie would talk about the demonetization of YouTube a lot, because it in a way became like half their money right right because their audience on YouTube was almost as big as it was like in the downloading space so he has ads on his podcasts but then he

gets revenue from YouTube but then they were demonetizing so many of his podcasts he's just like well wait a minute you're either trying to train me to speak there from which changes my show a minute, you're either trying to train me to speak there from which changes my show, or like these are like relevant points that you decide, but they didn't even, they weren't even giving him proper feedback on it. And he's like one of the biggest things on YouTube, especially in the podcasting space. So it was a no-brainer for him to go, well, I'm going to go to a platform exclusively that will not ever censor the way that my show has done. And then that wasn't even enough. So then what Neil Young had to come after him and some other people, and

had they had to put pressure on, Spotify by, you know by 100 doctors writing this letter. And it's just like, why did they get to make the rules of what is spoken about? I'm just so happy that that kind of completely collapsed. And if anything, Joe's numbers went up. I mean, he said during that time he gained 700,000 Twitter followers in two weeks. That's fucking huge, but people know what's going on on Rogan, you know? I mean, he's done so many episodes and has been around so long. People just trust what he's saying. It doesn't mean that he's an expert in everything, but it's like, well, we know it's gonna be honest. We know it's not gonna be carefully orchestrated fucking stories like you get from the news and most other places.

And that counts for a lot. Well, I know you know I'm not an OG Joe guy here and I'm jumping in on this with you, but I've really embraced it. I love it. It's like such a great space to find, I hate to use the word the middle, but the middle, you know, and just common fucking sense, dude. Like, I mean, I don't know. That's, to me, I've enjoyed so much diving into this

and finding out, like he said, there's so many people, that silent majority is actually all these people in the middle that see things from many different angles. You know, and he even going back to something that Gads one had earlier, he was saying like, you know, and this goes back to me kind of jumping on and doing some of this with you. I said, well, let me look at what I'm doing or getting into here. So I looked at and I love Joe said, I never read comments. I never read whatever. Well, you read some

of that stuff at least if you're trying to figure out what you're getting yourself into. And it was amazing to me to look at the comments for your podcast here and realize that, you know, like most, especially young idiots, they just read the headline or the title or whatever and they don't actually listen or read the article or listen to the podcast or the show or whatever. You know, all these people commenting, like they think that this is Joe's podcast, specifically, and they're attacking him or, you know, putting the American flag up, like he said, and just, you know, cheering him

as like some, you know, alt-right hero. And it's like, dude, not these people even listen to this because not only is it not Joe's podcast, but that's not even how Joe is if you were reviewing it on his stuff, you know? And Gad was talking about how, dude, a free society must have racist and idiots and truth questioners and everything else, like let the auto corrective process decide and debate decide and we're so

afraid of all of that now, you know, it's just it's mind-boggling to me. Yeah, well that's true and that's a good assessment. I mean, it is interesting for you. I mean, obviously over the years you've known about Joe, you've heard a podcast here and there, but to get into it now full on at your age with the understanding of things that you have, especially in this time of like such massive change and also now Joe is so big, his voice goes so much further, so it's not even just with his audience. He's, in a lot of ways, unintentionally responsible for everything that he says, and people will pick up a little bit of something that he said and turn it into a story, you know, an article that they do try and definitely take out a context and it just plays against them the fact that like

His whole show is designed to be taken out of context. There's no way to put three hours in context so It's it almost works well for him that anything that they grab any sound bite that they pick up and they're like he said this It's like it was in a much longer conversation. Well, and I'll give you an example just from this one that I wrote down that I thought was brilliant. And there's so many things that I hear Joe say that I'm like, yes, yes, that's exactly what I've either said or thought or whatever.

You know, they talked about a bunch of interesting the, the irony, the hypocrisy of my body, my choice back and forth in the last year for things. They talked about the January 6th, which I thought was great, because Joe was like, and this is exactly what I've said. And I liked what I agreed with what hotel said, too. They were like, Joe said January 6th, and all these people are like, oh, it's the worst thing or worse than World War 2 And his was his kind of description was like yeah, I was some idiots that showed up and wanted to take some Instagram selfies And you know do some dumb things and walk in there and whatever and there were a few really bad apples mixed in But for the most part is just a bunch of group think idiots that got carried away and

It wasn't World War 2 and even put it there. So in my opinion, so disrespectful. Yeah, it was a little bit of probably of a global embarrassment for security purposes on our country and things like that. But to make it out to be this horrid insurrection and everything else. And I'll tell you the reason I thought it was beautiful. When I watched that, I mean, there were so many of my suit, certainly ultra liberal friends like, oh, because of the people that we're doing it. But to me, you know, what's the old adage? A government should always fear its people.

And that's what Hotepp was talking about. Certainly him being an anarchist. This government here has stopped fearing its people for years, probably since the 60s, maybe the early 70s. Okay, and to me, whether you agreed with the platform or you agreed with what they were protesting or whatever, I didn't care about any of that. What I saw for the first time in a long time in decades is a government that for whatever the reasons were had a little

bit of fear finally for its people. And that's what this country has needed for a long time because you get these cushy politicians up there, untouchable, you know, racking up their bank accounts and doing whatever and disregarding the average people and not even the average people, disregarding pretty much everyone at this point. And that's to me what I thought was so great about watching January 6th unfold. Yeah, I agree. And you know, it is a weird thing to say that the government should fear the people because you know, I don't know how people hear that when you say it, you know, whether they're thinking, well, you know, we shouldn't be able to just, you know,

attack the government and run in and raid and, you know, protest should be peaceful and all that I get. But it is an important factor because when a government can completely dominate their people, like basically weapons in China, for example, I mean, the people always lose on that. They lose their rights and their freedom and it's a big problem. I mean, that's something that America has a lot of. I mean, even with the Second Amendment, I mean, this is like one of the few Western countries, if there are any, that there's probably more guns in

the hands of the people than in the military and police and everyone put together. Well, obviously the military have like planes and shit and giant boats and tanks, but you know, it would be, I mean, imagine trying to run through Texas with an army and take it over. I mean, that's what they- That's what they- Everyone and their mother has a gun there.

That's what they talked about in that podcast was, look, I love when people bring that up, like, or I think even Biden brought it up, you know, what are your guns going to do? What do you need guns? The government has nukes and drones and tanks and what and robots. It's like, that's not the point, dude. That's not the point at all. None of us think that we can, if we wanted to put together a militia and overthrow the government, if we, if they have the power, like, that's not what it's about. It's about the fact that you at least retain

some of the local rights and authorities to say, hey, you can't just come door to door. I think they were talking about Australia and the things that happened there. That happened because people don't have guns. You don't, you have to worry about anything crazy happening even on a micro level. Now that being said, said obviously with what happened this week in Buffalo and whatever else. I mean that was the this is one of the first times a lot of these things have happened and you know I knew the family the original Columbine family. They lived in my hometown before they moved to Colorado. So that goes way back for me hitting home with all these school shootings and these shootings just out in public now

for the last 20 years. But this Buffalo one is the first one that really hit home hard for me. I mean, they've all hit home hard, but this one was like, and it's both ways. We gotta figure out a way to do something because if not, we're not gonna have the freedoms that we have because we're not, yo dumbass,

you're gonna ruin it for the rest of us by doing stupid ass shit like this. And then we're gonna really understand when it's like to lose some of our freedoms by not having the ability to protest, have guns, whatever you wanna call it. There's many different avenues that that flows. But yeah, man, this thing in Buffalo was just, we got to find some way for these things to stop happening.

So we don't lose our second amendment rights for the right reasons of having them, you know? And that's also another slippery slope. Definitely another one. That one was sick, dude. That whole thing, I mean, it was horrific. Yeah, I mean, it just breaks my heart to see that. I all this stuff changing directions a little bit. Um, let's jump over to something they got into.

But Joe was talking about, well, they basically were talking about implants, right? Turning themselves into robots or all of us. Mm-hmm. And, um, you know, so Joe talked about his friend, I'm pretty sure he was talking about Eddie Bravo as Gigi Tzu buddy. Who has had a lot of neck surgery, spine surgery, fusion, all this, and they're like, yeah, if you could just put a, you know, a bionic spine in that fires better, and then you're like much stronger. It's just the idea that there would be this future, where yeah, you would see somebody, they've got like some scars on their arms and you just know they're gonna be faster you know jump higher who knows brain implants they're gonna be smarter it's like everyone would be doing that well I I saw a ironic parallel in this and I'm glad you brought this one up because it already happens and they and I think people don't realize it. You know, I mean, as you know, I was a ball player and I played tennis as well in a few other sports, but baseball has always been one of my deepest loves

of played it many, many years of my life. And the funny thing is, you know, there was the big thing like get growth hormone and steroids and everything out of baseball during the home run era and whatever else. Well, the other thing that was interesting about that time period was a lot of guys, look at Andy Pettit, for example. He talked about, you know, he got busted for human growth hormone. Why did he view it? He said, you know, it's a rigorous, vigorous 162 game schedule.

My body didn't heal like it used to in my 20s when I hit my 30s and I couldn't find the recovery. I didn't wanna be better, faster, stronger. I just wanted to be able to recover. So he took H.H. He got in trouble for it, but he said my body finally healed and Ladi, Dadi, Dadi. Okay, I understand not wanting to make that legal

in any way because then you open the door for performance enhancing versions of it or whatever, but that funny part and the ironic part related to what they were talking about and this is the Tommy John surgery, which if you're not familiar is the UCL ligament in the arm, it gets worn out from throwing a baseball over time. Some guys wear out faster, some guys just snap. Well, the first guy to ever have that surgery done where they replaced that ligament so you can throw again was Tommy John a picture I think from the 70s maybe is even the early 80s I can't remember exactly to look it up maybe your guy there can look it up but you know they found over time and they got so good at that surgery I think they would take a ligament from either somewhere else in your body or maybe from a cow.

I forget that maybe we could look that what up exactly how the surgery works. I'm certainly not a doctor, but put it in. And then they found as they got better at it that guys actually were better after the surgery than before. They could throw harder. They gained a couple of miles per hour on their fastball. They could throw harder, they gained a couple of miles per hour

on their fastball, some of the guys, not all the guys, some of them, some of the guys never could pitch again. It's just, you know, that's what happens with the surgery. But now you open it up to, and I've heard of this happening, they've talked about it. Guys getting the surgery, before they even need it, okay? So here's baseball,

who doesn't want guys taking steroids or growth hormone for healing or anything else, but they've never taken any exception to guys getting a ligament replaced in their arm that now makes them throw faster, harder, whatever, or be able to pitch longer into a game or whatever, having this bionic UCL in essence is what it is.

And that's been going on now for years. It's the same thing that they were talking about. It's not that a one day this will happen dude. It's been happening I'm sure you didn't know that one. No, I didn't well one thing I do know and the Joe has had His like knee replacements and ACL surgeries and all these different things and he had a replacements and ACL surgeries and all these different things. And he had a cadaver ligament from an Achilles I think, which is much stronger, thicker, tendon, put into his knee so it's like 150% stronger. Right? Now he had it done based on a surgery that was required. He had to fix it because it tore. But you could imagine athletes

would have good knees and no problems. If the surgery was reliable enough to just go in and say, hey, I want stronger knees. I don't know about you. I take that today. If it was guaranteed the surgery was, you know, not gonna cause any problems,

like let's say they've just done it forever. And they're like, oh, we can make your knees twice as strong Guaranteed why would you not want to do that if you Like working out and especially training Jiu Jitsu all the time. I'm like I worry about my knees in there So many times people have just blown their knees out, you know ACL ACL, the other one, what's the other one? MCL? ACL, MCL? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, just tore it to pieces. PCL accident. And people don't do it on purpose. He just kind of twists funny and you're moving quickly and maybe it's a leg lock, knee lock, something and it just goes. I mean, and then you're out for so long. I mean, it's just the worst thing to have happen.

But if you can make that stronger in every way, do it. But that's the thing is, when do you start doing it? And that's what I talked about with the Tommy John. You're doing it before there's a problem. Like, okay, if you get the surgery done, and afterwards you happen to somehow, because usually what, after a surgery, after an injury, you're just a little less of yourself, right?

Talk about guys who lost their explosiveness with the torn ACL or a torn Achilles, they're just not quite, some guys don't come back at all, but some guys just lose a little step here there. But to say, like with Tommy John, where hey, I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna do this one, I'm 24, so that it's stronger, and maybe I'll throw harder before anything

even happens. I mean, now we've reached that pinnacle. Now here we are into this bionic person, you know, and that's, yeah, that was to me. I'm glad you brought that one up and I'm going to finish. I know we're getting close to time here, but I don't want to miss another very important topic for all of the bit to add to that, though. It's not just about the future looks like, you're gonna be able to put that neural link in

in your brain that Elon Musk made, and it potentially could make you smarter or make certain systems in your body work much better. I mean, when that starts to work well, that's a no-brainer. Everyone's gonna do it. And the rich people are gonna do it first, and they're gonna have such a massive advantage that

who knows, no one else is gonna be able to keep up with them real fast. Few generations of that, you know? It's like the first thing you do with your child when it's born is just bionic it up. I mean, who the hell's gonna be able to compete with thoseic it up. I mean, who the hell is going to be able to compete with those people? Yeah, I mean, we kind of have that already, don't we? DMT, Iawaska, what are the other ones? What are the silver sibon? What would they talk about? Maybe I don't really know what the, the, the overall advantages afterwards of that, maybe you feel slightly more enlightened,

but I don't know if it's a massive net positive for your overall productivity throughout life. Yeah, maybe not. Yeah. Yeah. You're an ass-conner, ass-conner, Johnny. Right? Speaking of Johnny, speaking of Johnny, that's the last point. We have to talk about when they finished with the crazy hot matrix scale. I know they didn't call it that but I know you I've talked about it before the old YouTube video. And they talked about Amber and Johnny and being smoking fucking hot and crazy, you know, which we've all talked about. I'm sure everybody's talked about it in one way or another, but this is one thing that I you know Yeah, for the most part the crazy chicks are usually super hot and bad and You know kind of works in that symbiotic relationship. However, I think it works in reverse too, bro. Have you noticed that?

What do you mean Like you could take a chick who's kind of normal and If you start fucking her all crazy and dirty and turn her crazy in bed, then she just gets crazier in the real world too Huh Have you noticed that or no? So it's ultimately awful always. I mean, you know that if you've ever had a girlfriend It's ultimately awful. Always, I mean, you know that if you've ever had a girlfriend. There's definitely something to that, yeah. Dude, I'm telling you, hit me when they were talking about us,

like I've never thought it in reverse. Like, I've seen, I mean, it happens, like if you really take a girl to another place sexually, doesn't she just seem a bit fucking nutty or after that? Like, and like that's just because she'd been hanging out with you longer. And bitch here and like more demanding like, okay, now I'm ready. Now I'm now I'm fucking nuts. What's the solution then?

Just boring sex. Yeah, boring sex. Missionary and we're die literally. Yeah, go back to like Protestant thinking. Uh-huh. The hijab. I think they talked about bring back the hijab. That's how that whole conversation started.

Hota was like, bring back the hijab or Joe did. Somebody was like, that's how we keep society running normally again. Because it's always about that. Great. You remember they did that's how it came up. Yep. Bring back the key to that. Yeah, that go very well.

Well, that was a good week of really good conversations. I liked that one a lot. We miss Christina. I mean, it's, she, I'm a big fan of hers anyway. The wife of Tom Segura, but you know know often with the comedians because they come on quite often I think sometimes it's just better to cover and get into the other episodes But anyway as always thanks everyone for listening tune in and put on with us and thanks for joining me Jay you bet buddy All right later guys Gracias por venirme, Jay. ¿Tancla. Ah, vale, vale.

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