Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 278 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Gina Carano Et al.

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

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Welcome to the Joe Rogan Universe podcast. What up, I'm Sons. Then we've created it. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn and Garrett S. This might be to be the worst podcast for the best one of all time. Hey guys. All right, Gina Carano. Gina is obviously an MMA legend.

Super hot too. I mean, she really was like the first MMA fighter that just, I mean, legitimized female fighting across the board. I can't even remember all the fight organizations she was in, Elite XC for one. I mean, she was a champion for a long time. It wasn't till Cyborg really kind of smashed her pretty hard

that I think that I shook her up, but she crushed it. She absolutely did. And, you know, I mean, she's on Rogan now because she was canceled. That's really what's going down. Can I get a damn Gina? I know I know God got canceled hard bro

So did that movie come out that she was in then the Mandalorian or not? Oh, yeah, the show came out Okay, she said she made a reference to the Holocaust which is always like at the end of the day guys try not to make Holocaust reference. I shouldn't. No even if even if they're not the worst you know it like you're trying to like I don't think what she did was the worst thing but like you're you're on thin ice. It just wasn't a smart thing to do, unfortunately. You know, you get caught up in stuff, you do it, and she was probably regretting that text, or it wasn't a text, it was an Instagram post, right? Or a tweet.

Oh, it was a tweet. See, I don't, I don't tweet. You need a thought, tweet. I don't, I don't twat or tweet. I don't tweet. Yeah. I stay away. I barely even know how to do it.

There's two, there's just too many things to do already in social media I don't need another one. It's like tick-tock. I don't need it. It just doesn't seem like it's worth it Like what are we doing over that? It just seems like something that would just upset me You're just scrolling through enough bullshit on a day-to-day basis, but hey, man It look if if Elon buys Twitter. I mean is that going through i mean if he does he says he's not going to discriminate any sort of talk right whether it's eight talk or anything right is he's trying

to be a reason he said that yeah you can get crazy crazy but right yet you're not gonna be like shadow band for ex ones a i mean he's cleaning it up is the hope. Yeah, probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but you know, she has a lot of, you know, ideas. And she's obviously passionate about what she believes in and seemed to me like she,

I did think it was a little weird that she's never voted before until now and she's a 40-year-old woman But you know to each their own Dude I haven't Well, you're you're from Great Britain, okay? Like wow that sounds a little bit It's the 4th of July yesterday. Come on. Yeah, all right. I'll be quiet

Just be excited that you're an American now, okay. This is your week, I'll give it. All right. Reasonable. All right. Reasonable. Yeah. Oh. I know, I mean, just the whole idea though, of being canceled over a tweed.

Yeah, just like a tweed and like getting fired from it. It's so brutal. But really, it's because she's such a big star, right? I mean, if you were I were to tweet something like that, it wouldn't get noticed, so nobody's going to cancel you, right? Or do they have bots that will just automatically do that? No, I just mean that it's, I mean, I think they do look at most tweets, you know, not people, but like the bots

and the algorithms like they check them. Right. But also you got to wonder, you know, I mean, she wasn't like a list, you know, she was just making a way in there. And to think that what are they doing, like training all celebrities to only think one way, and I'm not saying the way that they have to think is all that bad too, but it's just controlling. Like don't you want to really hear just what these people think? You know? No matter what, uncensored man.

I feel like probably a lot of celebrities think different ways than we understand that they do, because they just toe-align that it's been artificially created. And is that beneficial? Does that help anybody? No, absolutely not. If you're a star, you should be able to speak your mind even more so because people will actually listen to you. You actually have almost a responsibility to speak truth, right? Well, you have a platform, but depending on who you are, obviously. That also comes back to, like, should even people be listening to celebrity most of the time

No, it's because their agenda is controlled by who they're getting paid for most of the time But even if they can speak freely. It's like they're just a fucking actor of relax I mean yeah, they're famous But maybe some of the shit they say is wacky is it's like just let them speak though. We can decide for ourselves You don't need to control them like that potentially. I don't remember. Yeah, you know, if if well that was one thing about Gina. I mean, if she's speaking about governmental affairs, I'm probably not going to listen too hard, but you know, it's her

opinion, but she's just an actress Right who really is more of a fighter? Right, she was a fighter way before she was an actress, right? Yeah, yeah, and she was a badass fighter Let's fucking stick to that, baby. Yeah, but more importantly is she good in her movies, which she I have a pretty good. I haven't seen him so well. She was in Deadpool. You watch her. Oh, yeah. That's a great movie. Yeah She was one of the bad guys. Okay, so was in Deadpool. You watch her too. Oh yeah, that was a great movie. Yeah. She was one of the bad guys. Okay.

So it's like just let it like, why does everyone in all the movies have to think in this like, toad line? I don't get it. I mean, look, I go on the conspiracy theory train quite a bit and I, you know, I love how when Joe talks about the Wuhan lab, how it was, you know, in 2014, Obama canceled that, right? I mean, that's what he said. Obama stopped doing that sort of research. And then when Trump came back on, you know, was President, he started it up again and then look what happens. I mean, aren't, don't we

all know that that was a biological nightmare that was going on there? I mean, they were creating these things purposely for probably warfare. That's my assumption. Yeah. They're not going to say that. They're going to pretend that it was a bat. You know what was all about that though? It's like, let's say that that is true, right?

What Joe was saying about Obama closing it down and Trump starting it up. But Trump was the one that was saying it was coming from the lab. True. And nobody would allow that. No one was listening. And it's like, hold on a second.

So he started, like I just don't understand the thought process. Maybe he didn't realize that he'd started it up again. That's what it says. That's what it says. But he was like, hey, I think this may have come from that everyone was like no I Don't but don't you think people are starting to realize that yeah, that's probably what happens

Like it right seems I think people are just scared to admit it seems logical to me I mean more so than a bat in China. Yeah eating from a market Yeah, I don't know people been eating from markets for centuries man. Yeah, eating from a market. Yeah. I don't know. People have been eating from markets for centuries man. Yeah. For millennial. Right? That's a good point. If that market existed, how many bats have been eaten before that day? Yeah, come on. Probably a lot. Special bats. I liked to eat a bat. Never tried it. I would. I would try it. Dude. Put some barbecue sauce on there. I think you just gotta like well cook it.

You know, I appreciated also, I mean, they talk about fat shaming a lot and Gina was saying that she grew up in kind of a family that was, you know, her dad was maybe a little hard on her, but she appreciated that. That was an NFL player. Oh, I didn't, yeah, he was like a sportsman. So they were big on, you know, sport and training. Yeah, just the rest of it. So I think that that was a lot of pressure on her to like, but I like how they spun that and you know, we talk about this a lot or at least in in our circle of friends of like, if you're unhealthy, you might die from COVID, but you probably are going

to die because you were unhealthy, not because of the COVID. Well, people died before COVID. Well, right. But what they're saying is, is like, what a Joe say. He says, if you want to think that your anorexia is beautiful, that's fine, but it's not healthy. Right. Right. Like, if you want us things, you know,

the woman on sports illustrated, yeah, she's beautiful. The woman on the cover that Jordan Peterson got canceled on for his tweet, right? That happened last week. And, you know, he probably shouldn't have tweeted that, but whatever, man, it's a tweet. People get so worked up over little things man, I you know, we don't have to agree with what he said but like Was she beautiful? Yes, is that healthy? I don't know is it I didn't see the photo. Well now she's not thin She's like overweight That's not healthy. Yeah, she's not we're not saying it's not beautiful Yeah, she's not she She's not saying it's not beautiful. Yeah, she's not, she has a pretty, really pretty face. Well, either way, man, beauty comes in all forms and,

and styles and everybody has to each their own, right? Some people love that. But, we're not talking about health here. We're talking, health and beauty are two completely different things in my mind. Yeah. You know, if I'm 50 pounds overweight And my healthy no, but then Gina even says like she went to the moi taicharina and

Even though it was brutal and a bit of fat shaming which was hard for her and that was in Taiwan Yeah, she chose to do it. Yeah, and it got her thin Like and then she understands that she felt a lot better when that happened. Right. So that's a that's a difficult argument, right? Because it's like, okay, you know, I've been fat-shamed into being thinner. But it's also one making me good at why I came here for, right? So let's let's take away Moitai.

And let's say she went to Thailand to learn how to fucking run up mountains and they'd be like you can't do it in that shape Mm-hmm. You just can't you won't do it. So every day we're gonna give you a hard time about What it takes to get good at running up mountains and then all of a sudden there we go there you are But don't you think it's also, I mean it's obviously in some people's nature to realize like no I will not let myself do this and obviously there's other factors you know thyroid disease and different factors for people becoming overweight diabetes I get it. But some people just have that mentality of like, hey, I'm not gonna let this happen.

I'm gonna be determined to whether they're getting fat chained or not. She's an athlete. She's an athlete of a different mindset. They want to be, they crave that healthiness, right? They need it to be, they crave that, that healthiness, right? They need it to be superior. Well, they know the advantage of like being in shape. Right.

But it's hard. Look, this is the important point here, I think, is that even athletes at the highest level can get out of shape. It happens. If they don't have that drive to stay like in the pocket, you often hear it with fighters too and other people. As soon as they're not in camp, they want to eat like whatever. And they like, I want to enjoy life, I get it. Enjoy it.

But also like balance it. It doesn't just have to be camp that keeps you in good shape. Right. Or like some reason. Well, or trying to drop weight for a fight. Yeah. It can just also be like, all right, there's like a minimum amount of fitness that I keep. You know, you don't have to like be redlining all the time. That's brutal. That's so stressful. But you don't want to overtrain either.

Right. Is that even a thing though? What is over training? I mean, I guess if it's affecting The rest of your career or family or health in a in a I don't know. I've never over trained I wish I could answer that To be honest, I wish I was that cool and that's why I say it because I'm like I don't know. I wish I could answer that. I don't think I'd have either, to be honest. I wish I was that cool. And that's why I say it because I'm like, I don't know. Like I've been tired.

But mostly it was because I wasn't in shape enough to do the thing that I tried. I didn't drink enough water. Exactly. Something. She almost went death though, from her stress of this. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah, that was because she was getting shamed publicly for the tweet. Well, she got fired. She can't get a job now because of a tweet, right? I mean, no one's going to hire her or no, she did a new movie with Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. Did he produce that? It was. What was that? What was that? It was like one in Montana. Oh, oh, because she was saying she wanted to move to Montana. Yeah, so it was up here. And I, you know, I guess I don't know what kind of... Did Shapira produce it or something? I guess.

It was for the daily wire, is that what it was for? Something, yeah. Okay, something. Is it a, do you know what it is? Cowboy movie. Okay. Yeah. All right, so she's gonna get a bunch of roles

in Cowboy Flicks. Yeah, I guess it's like the the non-Hollywood version of Moving Making which might not be a bad thing to mix it up and see if they can make some good movies I mean, do they all have to be so woke? You know, I mean look at the box office recently, right? So they had top gun two crushed if you haven't seen it see it smash it it's made like billions do you know that so far Tom Cruise got paid 65 million for that movie well is he getting a percentage of the sales yeah he took a smart one up smart dude dude did he nail that isn't that what the ocean isn't that what Keanu Reeves did in the Matrix? Oh, yeah kill it kill it. They had Johnny Utah

They had no idea with the Matrix and he just oh yeah, he knew I'm that Johnny Utah knew he must have known but but then they came out with Buzz Lawyer the car. Oh, yeah, yeah, Pixar thing. Yeah, my my son's gonna be into that one and it was a massive flop really Supposedly it's super woke Hmm, and it's almost like they've gone so far that way that they're realizing wait a minute this woke shit Like just like too far of a degree is not gonna work and I think that's good, you know degree is not going to work. And I think that's good, you know. Well, just we just don't want to tip toe around everything. I appreciate the values, the social, you know, structure, or the social, you know, ideas behind a

lot of the the wokeness that's happening, but it's like you said, it's gone too far. It's gone to where like a comedian can't get up and talk about Someone who's going through a procedure and laugh about it. I mean these things happen man They're it's not like we disagree with what people are doing. We're allowed to have a laugh about it, dude Yeah, it's it's life like let's laugh a little bit Yeah, on someone's expense. It doesn't have to be like you laugh at anybody dude bit. Yeah, on someone's expense. It doesn't have to be like, you laugh at anybody, dude. Just don't be, I don't know, man. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's called. Well, and like what they were talking about,

this centralized form of everything, right? Whether, you know, our government wants to be able to control everything. And if you look at any branch of entertainment, it's basically a form of government. It's just a bunch of, it's a hierarchy of really rich people who pay for shit that we're gonna watch. and they are, you know,

more or less controlling what's getting put out to the people, right? Because they own these media companies. That's what worries me about it is like as soon as corporations jump on board, they're like, oh, yeah, we've all become woke. So now we're gonna push this and it almost went from this like cool fringe like I'm just really accepting of people to now to now corporations are 100% behind the woke thing and now they're pushing it and it's like wait a second do we when when did the people that originally started following

Wokeness? Like when were those type of people ever like also following everything corporations that they want? It's like corporations just grabbed them and went, hey I've got the message too, follow me. Well, and you look at, I think Joe pointed this out in this in this podcast about how all these pharmaceutical companies are like 85% of the ad revenue that's happening on these news channels, whether it's news or any sort of media channel,

is getting paid for by pharmaceutical companies. And now, you know, what was supposed to be punk rock? Like why are we listening to that? And you know, I don't think it's essentially a bad thing that it's happening because I think it will even itself out, because enough people are fed up, and look, we want everyone to have a fair chance at things, but we don't need to tip toe around issues.

We should just be able to talk about them openly, which is a really freaking hard thing to do in America at this point in time. Oh yeah, dude. For sure. And that's the beauty of podcasts because it's not- Hey, he's not, but even talking on this. Like, there were oftentimes where I'm like, oh, I'm about to say something that is definitely going to lead to like a review where people like oh You fucking far right bro or this guy fucking this and that and I'm just like

All right, not true. I mean I don't listen. Well, it doesn't matter either like it doesn't matter what their opinion on me is Okay, let's just upset people I get it and I don't even I don't even get mad at all For like those opinions like you're gonna have them Right, but like we're not sponsored by pharmaceutical companies as well Well, that's what makes me mad is that if the government wants to control our media and control our money And centralize everything. I mean, that's why they're so scared of Bitcoin, right? They pointed that out They're scared of Bitcoin because it's not It's decentralized. Yeah

The freaks of hell man because it's open. Yeah, even though I know nothing about it And I don't invest in it or even can't because I have no money, but Like it it excites me because I'm like, okay, that's another wild card out there that keeps them on their toes, you know It it just seems interesting to me that they can gather. I mean look she was frustrated a lot during this podcast And I hope that she can come back and do action movies that she's good at. She's a great martial artist. She looks great, beautiful lady. She's fun in movies.

Like who gives a fuck about the type of politics? Is it so dangerous that one, like look, there are 50% of the population believe one way and close to 50 believe another way. Should we cancel everyone that believes one way? That's crazy. Like let them be actors, right? Let them work in McDonald's. Let them be at Starbucks. Let them be exact set of company. It's like people are going to believe things. Right, but when when the media is controlled by what five or six different conglomerates Probably it's hard to have that freedom Because it is controlled

But I think that'll change I think I think it'll change and the in podcast is one, you know beautiful addition to this Say what you want, culture. It doesn't matter what you say, because no one's controlling it. Yeah. And that's awesome. We couldn't do this on the radio. Remember when Howard Stern was such a, it was such a big deal when he got on serious radio

because you could say whatever you want. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, he was really the first podcast. He made a sense, yeah, for sure For sure, I do like how they both were stoked about Tulsi Gabbert Gabbert is that yeah She'd be a good president. I'm just gonna throw that out there. No, I like what a badass. Yeah, I like her a lot too Yeah, I have friends that like always want to tell me certain things that she said and they're like no, I don't like this and I'm like guys like I think she's doing fine she's great I'm a big fan like I'd be down for

Jocco and her president yes oh that's a good team nice all right let's jump over to Eric Anders this guy is a badass his fighting style is super aggressive and I've always enjoyed watching him in the UFC. You know, he, what's crazy about his story, so he was a national champion for football, you know, what I guess, a college level, high school college. Must be college college, yeah, but then he has to go back to being a Janetza. Like imagine that kind of humbling experience of like to get hurt. Is that was what was that why he was hurt? It's just like I think he didn't maybe didn't go to the NFL. yeah, you know had to figure something else out

Yeah, you just get on with it and then That's brutal though and also like super humbling and then he's like starts fighting and works his way up so you know He says he's got five fights left in it right and those are gonna be big, but he has fights left in it right and those are gonna be big but he has like work through the gauntlet of fighting like just I mean the people he's been up against the people he's fought against I mean some of the wins he's had some of the losses I mean hammered all the best and five fights even though it doesn't sound like a lot that's potentially a multi-year career he was saying he has five fights left from from now on yeah, okay 35

I don't know how he's doing the math on that but he knows better than I would know It's smart that he's invested his money at real estate though I think he said he has like 15 houses or whatever. Yeah, I mean money and real estate though. I think he said he has like 15 houses or whatever. Yeah. I mean, you know, a lot of these fighters are probably blowing their money. Like they're living big. Yeah, and dogs. Yeah, right. That's what he said. Yeah. I think it happens. And I like that he didn't complain too much about the pay problem in the UFC. I'm not saying it's not a problem. It probably is for fighters But he's found a way to make that work for himself You know win bonuses and all the rest of it like you get paid, you know if you win

Man, I just like how he opened up so much about hallucinogenics and how that's helped kind of some of his traumatic brain injuries and You know, I mean they got into DMT. They've both tried it. I've never tried it. Definitely heard about it. You want to try that? Yeah. Really? I would like to. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? He hasn't done the NN. Do I metho Tritamine? The one I don't... I can't remember if he said he did both. But he definitely did the toad. Okay, and that's the 5M, M-A-L. That's the toad one. Yeah.

And so was that the one that Rogan was saying that is like a hundred times, what did he say? DMT is mushroom times a million plus aliens. Plus aliens, yeah. Well, I think he's talking about the NN with that one because you get to see You know you can actually remember Yeah, the toad one is very vague So vague well he was saying he was rolling around in the grass

He like got up and started doing some results in his friends yard or something um And he didn't remember and he was in a different place. Like that. I've seen someone do that on the toad. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I've seen. And it only last what, 15 minutes or something? Like five. Really? Yeah. Wow. Maybe a bit longer. Is it like, is it like 50 therapy sessions in one or what? I mean, do you go in with an intention? Dude, you can't. No, because you don't know what's gonna happen.

But it doesn't matter. It's so powerful. This isn't like regular life stuff. You can't just go in with like, I'm gonna think about this. Right. Like it takes you somewhere that you've never been. Dude, you don't even have a body. You're just a thought that exists.

Well, yeah, it's like the craziest dream state and it's brave of him to go in there, to be honest. He said he did it three times that day. I did it once. I can't imagine doing it twice. And he did it three times in the same day. I wasn't like super scared of the first time, though it was really unnerving, but I was so unsure of what happened. I can't imagine doing it again. I just don't, I don't know.

Do you remember it vividly still though? Like did you take notes or would you just just something you don't forget? No, well you do over time, but like probably a year afterwards you think about it almost every day. Like it's that powerful. Like it just doesn't escape you. You just like okay, well there's real life and then there's that thing. Do people compare that to ayahuasca or is it completely different? It's gotta be similar. Yeah, I don't know it's the same drug though DMT is in that okay. It's just the synthetic form No, it's it's ayahuasca is like the drink

Yeah, and they have some Inhibita in there, so like is more the slow release. Yeah, it's well. It's like treat It's like tree bark and then they figured out another plant that gives that slow release where your stomach can actually digest it to make it work, right? Yeah. To make the hallucinogenic actually work in your body. As far as I know, yeah. And then it just lasts for hours instead of 15 minutes. But the 15 minute ones, either one, like NNDI, methotryptamine, or 5MEO,

like blashew into a fucking, another dimension. Now is that the same, is that like your pituitary gland when they say you die, that's what you actually get some DMT at the end, is that, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, but these are theories. Right. You know, I mean, that's kind of what the theory is but we don't know you know we know the liver makes it the ideas that the pituitary gland also could we you know they found it in like rats I think that it comes from there they like that's also why they say it's the third eye because it's like right right brain

I mean who fucking knows you I, well speaking of rats that I thought it was cool that when they were talking about the stem cell research and how they actually have these regenerative tissues that will you know that they can add to rats. I don't know how they do it, but it does a reverse aging and I didn't look this up. But Joe was saying it does like a 50% reversal on the age of these rats that they're doing this. Well, it can make them live longer. Dude, like times two.

Why does the FDA know how to prove this? I don't understand that. Is that a religious thing? Is that why they? I think it might be. Yeah. It's like we're pretending to be God with science. Is that why?

But aren't we anyway? Yeah, I mean mean we're trying to grow meat come on that's awesome yeah like what why why can we not be religious and also live longer like really healthy shit well yeah I mean it's a problem with that for religious people I mean what's the difference in you know did Joe do it on his knee? Did he actually go down to Panama? I didn't catch that part. Oh, they are Joe's done all the stem cells. Right. And you have to go down to Panama to do it.

Though, right? I think so. Yeah. He sent his mom down that twice. Nice. Yeah. They helped her out. It was like a show that was hurting. You know, it's just like, what, look, we're America, okay? Let's have the best medicine America or not if the if the science works Why not do it man if it if it's gonna help your your body recover I think it's something that like they get the stem cells from like babies fetuses or something I don't know But people get upset about that a lot of baby You know energy right now In the news it's not go there, but not going there. I'm not going there to each their own

but All I say is like people are gonna fucking get injured they're gonna get old stuff's gonna hurt Why would you not want to wait to fix yourself? like people are gonna fucking get injured, they're gonna get old, stuff's gonna hurt. Why would you not want to wait to fix yourself? Hey, if you could reverse age, you'd do it. Who's not gonna do that? I think anyone would. Everyone's gonna do it.

Religious or not. Why would you not be the forefront of that technology? Well, we should absolutely be the forefront. There's no reason to not. That's it. I mean, he blew out his entire Achilles this guy. And then when it got stem cells and it fixed it, like what? That's a huge like ligament. Yeah, that'll ruin your career. Dude, I don't's get more stem cells.

Well, then stem cells, let's get them. Well, what was that other thing? They were talking about that wild yam plant. Oh, for testosterone? Yeah. Yeah. Did they find that in the Amazon? No, it was somewhere else.

It's regularly yams. Oh, it's like a potato. Wild yam. Yeah. Just a wilder version. I don't know how wild it is, but I guess they can use that as like a precursor for like synthesizing testosterone. And I think that's how they do most of the testosterone replacement. You know, they just can make it from that. That is awesome. Dude. I mean, we need that.

We start at 40, you start losing your testosterone as a man, like the percentages go way down. What do you think we're out? We're both at 40, right? Yeah. Yeah. What's our test? That's why we did it.

We should get it tested. We should get it tested. Let's find out where we're out. Where can we get these wild yams? And then let's start eating wild yams and Figure out how many yams we need to eat. I love a good sweet potato Do you I don't think you can just eat it though? You have to have the scientists like pull the shit out and then you inject it. Oh, you inject it really?

I don't remember them saying that yeah They like synthesize the testosterone from the yams. That's how they make the synthetic testosterone Okay, and now is this this is similar to human growth hormone Is that the same thing? No, that's a hormone. I think testosterone is just like a oh, that's probably a hormone too But it's a bit different. Yeah. That's what Rogan's on. He takes that.

He takes the wild yams? Well, in a sense, yeah, he's a wild yama. Nice. I want to be one. Let's go. Let's go. Last thing I want to say is, there were a few deaths from MMA. And that is something that even to me still this day, I find curious because I watched

the UFC or like MMA in the 90s when it was seen as just like, I remember people that I knew that I would tell that I love watching this too and that we'd get like these VHS tapes and we could just watch these like cage matches and people would just thought it was so brutal, so gross, so like why you into this and I'm like this is fascinating to me but they're like oh so barbaric and now we see that years later that there are zero deaths in the U of C, there have been a couple of them made deaths like abroad, but like in, you know, different organizations that maybe one is heavily regulated. And boxing is causing, you know, a lot of problems for the people that are fighting. The TBI.

But boxing has always just been accepted. Right. Well, it's a past time. Exactly. And then there's football too, which causes a shitload of brand damage for people. I mean, this guy was a football player and he's just like, dude, the fucking brand damage you get from that is horrific.

What I was interested in, I feel like he feels safer being a fighter. I thought it was interesting though how the way the NFL nowadays is treating it though, like if you get knocked out, they take your helmet. Whereas in the past, it'd be like, no dude, motherfucker, get back on the field. You know, and I get all that sentiment, right? I mean, imagine if you've got a whole team and all the rest of it and like a lot of people are like many players are just trying to like, cop out because they don't feel well and they've got excuses.

I mean, you've got to rev these guys up. They're warriors, right? They're the elite of like sportsmen warriors. And if you didn't know about how dangerous it was, you know, I get the sentiment. I'm not saying it's smart. I wish there were people back then that understood it, but I get it. But now that they're more understanding of the damage, why not bring them out? You know, you want good players to play for a long time. Like get them out, get them safe, check them out. That's going to expand their career. It's still a dangerous sport, but keep them in the best shape you can.

Even the idea that they, and I don't know a lot about football, but they don't hammer the quarterbacks like they used to. There's like an unwritten rule of respect like Tackle him, but trying to blow them these out, you know, give the quarterbacks a chance because That stuff is good. Like why not? It's still a sport. They're not really a war They can give these guys a chance and they you know, you definitely don't want them getting to the point But they have so much brain damage that they're going straight off the rails and going fucking crazy. That's not cool. Well, weren't I mean this is a couple weeks ago that Rogan was already talking about how what 90% of professional athletes, even at the college level and I think maybe even the

high school level who play football, all have that these traumatic brain injuries, but there's a what's the name of it where you actually get the CTE? The CTE, okay. Yeah, dude, that's terrifying. And it just makes you mad depressed. I mean suicidal, right? Isn't that? I don't think it's good.

Yeah, it's definitely not good. Tired all the time. It just falls off a lot of things, I think. And okay, so you have a kid, you have little Enzo. How old is Enzo now? He'll be two in a couple months Okay, do you want him playing football? Oh, no, but he's not gonna be big enough to play football anyway, but let's say yes But if he wanted to if he wanted to I think I would let him okay, I'm not gonna stop him from doing what he wants

But would I I shouldn't I don't know that's up to you. I'm not telling you you're the dad But like I mean there's the potential for like all this stuff 99% bro Like it's a real number right But if your kid wants to play so bad and he's in love with it Are you gonna stop him? I mean Eric even said on the pod. He said I Wouldn't had I known all this stuff about CTE and and all these Concussions and what they can do to you. I still would have played straight up He's like there's no way it would have ever stopped me regardless of of the science behind it

I guess the best you can do is just educate them and then say all right, that's your choice beyond your way. Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to tell them either but I would Probably encourage them maybe not to yeah, I mean, well, let's get into some tennis. I mean, that's more fun anyway Wimbledon That's right. All right, let's jump over to Brian Simpson. Oh this guy what a hilarious comedian Like if you guys are not familiar with Brian you've got to watch him. You've got to check out his YouTube you've got to just find any you know sets that he's done online. He's so funny, so good. He's an absolute killer and

there's a reason Rogan takes him on the road. I mean, because he is that good. He's a big Android guy, which also, I wanted to talk about because my phone broke recently. I had an Android. Everyone was like, finally get an Apple. Oh, you have it? Wait, you have an iPhone now? No, I went and got another Android. Naaaad. I got, I went from the Pixel to the another galaxy, but he but he isn't hear me out

I did it because I heard that it just switches everything over it did not it didn't nothing It I logged into my G-man so you lost all everything from your phone like he got my contacts But every all my texts were lost and everything didn't transfer so I don't know man. I want to I just want seamless shit now Well, I I mean I get if you're a PC guy you should probably go and right if you're a Matt guy you go Mac But it didn't it wasn't useful Like it's been on my map Like why would I keep yeah, I have a PC.

Yeah, and it takes 45 minutes to load. I'm not allowed to turn it off at the office because it takes too long to load back up. Yeah, Todd and I are constantly fighting about Apple. But I just think that after this last time, I want seamless. I might have to just jump over. And it kind of frustrates me.

I didn't want to have to do it. I was like holding out, but I'm worried now. I'm just like, should we just get all Apple shit? So it just does what I wanted to do. Like, this is going to take me like four months to set up this new phone. That's how useless I am with phones. I'm so sorry for you right now.

You know, you know, you love this. This is exactly what you wanted to hear. So, so the most interesting thing I heard from this and it was like 15 minutes in. That 1984 Soviet conversation with that dude from the KGB. Oh dude. Holy shit. I thought that was from when I was first listening to it, I had to go back to that. I thought it was from when I was first listening to it I had to go back to that. I thought it was from from recently. Yeah 1984 And he's talking about you know how to get the U.S. to change the perception to change their perception of reality

So that no one is able to come to sensible solutions to defend themselves or their country And it's kind I mean it's happening right now everyone's confused Nobody trust the government people are fighting. I mean it's happening and they were talking about this shit in the 80s It was really eye-opening who it's scary figures that out what kind of like Either genius it's evil genius thinking, right? The demoralization of a whole country. Yeah, it would be like, pick your friend, right? That you love, and the reason I say that

is because like, you'll know them well. Like, you know they have flaws, they have vulnerabilities, but also like, you're close enough to like, know that about them, but you care about them. And then you're like enough to like know that about them, but you care about them. And then you're like, all right, just as an interesting experiment, figure out how to completely destabilize their life. And then you just watch it and you're like, oh, I know how to do it. You just do this, that, this. Like, the thing the government sit around doing this is I mean it makes sense that they would right to get the upper hand

If you're evil. Yeah, which most of them probably are but what does that mean evil? Well, I mean to to use psychological warfare in an entire country to gain you know To gain an up on that opponent know, to gain an up on that opponent, dude, but there is like, they're way less powerful than the US. So they've got to use, I mean, this is in the cold line. Yeah, it's like terrorist tactics, right? They're like, okay. And now they have, well, I think that's, well, they take away from this because this was way before social media. Social media seems like the most effective way for them to attack

us and still doing it seems like where it's at right yeah i think it's harder for them to do it on like instagram and twitter maybe twitter but like facebook was like essay length things you know they could just write as much as they want put groups together Turned people against the well. Yeah, they're still doing it. They're cut these Russian propaganda farms is what Joe was calling it Yeah, he said the top the top That the 19 out of the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook We're run by Russian I mean, I guess you call mackers he was called a mrussian russian propaganda farms but like they're run by

people in another country and they're setting up like facebook groups to basically do to freaks me out yet to to psychologically change their minds on particular topics and they're not even re they're not even living in this country. It's crazy.

They want us to hate each other, man. And it's working. People, people have polarized this fuck right now. You know, I mean, they even do it with us talking on here. Like, it's hard to stay away from it. It's like if you have a voice of any kind like good luck. I don't even know what you would need to say. Like let's say we just fall like let's say we just sell out right. We do like the Disney version of the podcast from now on. Just to try and win as many people. What would we do? What would we do?

I don't know. We just be as an artist. Adam, we don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. But let's say we did it. And then we just followed that path. Eventually, it would collapse on ourselves too. We would either become too rogue or too something. Like, there's just no way.

The only way you really can speak is just how you think. Honestly, hope over time, if you like have a fucked up opinion, you change it, you adjust it. Well, open minded, open mindedness is the beauty of intellectual, the intellectual process. If you're not going to take someone else's opinion for something, or maybe not even their opinion, but hear them out and then not change your mind because of what they say, because you're so one-sided that you're not even going to listen to what they say and then what's the fucking point of having a conversation? Yeah.

If you're just going to too stuck in your own ways. If the narrative is changing so fast, and most people are just following that wave to get attention, like maybe some stubborn people are useful, right? Oh yeah, every person's useful. Even... Are they? Yeah, wow. I mean, come on. Oh yeah every every person's useful Even all they yeah, well, I mean come on everyone everyone has something To say and if you if you don't hear them out then how are you gonna change your mind openly to Have that debate in the first place like what's the point of debates if you're not gonna have other opinions?

Yeah, that's probably true. That is probably true. I mean, that's what I think I like about Brian is like he leans on the side of like, cynical, but he's not really cynical. He just sees the comedy there. It's like a little voice in his head and it just goes, hey, and it rolls through this like scenario of cynicism. But at the end of the day, it's just a bit of comedy that he expresses. Like he just goes, yeah, this is how I'm seeing things. Street jokes. Yeah, right? Some street jokes. He was calling memes the new street joke. Dude, memes are where it's at. I'm a big fan. Those golf memes, the the Rogan golf memes, right? I haven't seen any. I would like to see some. Maybe we just make our Instagram like a bunch of A bunch of Rogan memes from now on. How about that that random shirt?

Like he picked it up and he said he spilled something on his shirt and then they gave him the Broth. Bohemian girl and I had never heard of it until now did you look it did you look it up it's Alex Jones man well he went in there undercover yeah or he got invited or did he just somehow sneak his way into he's not again he's not again and like kind of exposed what's going on in these like crazy elite organizations because it was always a room of a fall even though They played the Nixon thing or they talked about it like no, they played it. Yeah, it's like Nixon talked about it back in the day and

You know what he got impeached so maybe he shouldn't have You know, well, it's like all these secret societies. I mean if you're gonna pretend that secret societies didn't have. Well, it's like all these secret societies. I mean, if you're going to pretend that secret societies didn't raise our presidents, you know, and these elite 1% people have all gone to elite schools, most of them, right? Most of them come from a buttload of money, and they're all doing weird fucking secret society, m type, you know inaugurations or what'd you even call that? I guess it's not inauguration. It's a it's a induction I guess yeah better right? induction into the Secret society. I mean that's that's what it sounded like to me

It's terrifying. It's like you got it. It's almost like they just have to know that you'll play whatever game they're playing. Like are you going to be on board? Like yes, you have your opinions, you're on the one side of what a political party, but at the end of the day, are you going to play with, because these companies, corporations, powerful people, they don't give a fuck who the president is, in a sense. It's like they're gonna keep existing for 50 years, 100 years, whatever. Like presidents are gonna come and go, and they're like, alright, you come in with your philosophies, but are you gonna play our game?

And I think that's where these organizations come from. It's like, overall, they're the game that continues, right? They're the multi-generational game and it's like, hey, you can have your opinions but tow the line and this is where the line is and these are the ceremonies and who's in charge. I mean, isn't it just a weird, egotistical way to feel cool about yourselves and you're this elite group so you're better than everyone else. I mean, that's the way I see it. I'd even note that.

No doubt. And it's just bad acting. Well, I think Brian mentioned that it was just like the worst, oh yeah, it was like an improv. Yeah, the worst improv class you've ever been to go to Bohemian Grove. Just owl ceremonies and

thou thouest with the owl gods you're like alright dude yeah it scares me man it does it scares me just that even like think about this nonsense oh like to think that you would ever be in a position where like that's the height of like becoming successful. Somebody invites you along with this, and now you got to play along with this nonsense. I couldn't even imagine. I wouldn't even know what to start. I'd be like, all right, I gotta go.

Guys, this has been great. I'm just gonna head to Vegas, and you know, if I'm gonna get up to debauchery anyway, it's going to be just in Vegas. I mean, isn't it the reason why most presidents, I mean, if you think, you know, they were talking about IQs of presidents, was that with Brian? He's talking about how, don't you wish they could just test them, you know, and You know if they if they pass the tester whatever they can be present if they don't what was he saying? He's like just kill him Well, yeah, it's like judge dress. Yeah, that's what it was

Yeah, you just like lead him out into that that would be interesting if they didn't if they ran But didn't get to like then if they ran, but didn't get to like, then profit for years and just like, live the best retirement you could ever imagine. I feel like they probably would put more in. And it would be like, it's a real life sacrifice. Absolutely. And in a sense, wouldn't that be a better way

to pick people? Well, back in the day, there, there, it was a stipend fee that they got as a politician. It wasn't a ton of money. Right. It it was just like you're an elite person who this is a privilege to be part of this they weren't getting paybacks from corporations back then dude they make like hundreds of millions after they had done with their presence right and it was talking about doing all these different speeches and they're incentivized to do all these things after they

You know suck the cock of of these corporations and do whatever they want to get elected And that's both sides. I mean if you can't forget that right exactly so if we could just remember that that we're getting fucked on both sides Then we could all come together. Yep. And on that, I get it. I want Brian on my team. I want Brian on my team. He's good.

He's like, no, I'm not taking that. Yeah, and on that negative end, I mean, what a rough way to kind of get to the end of this, we're going to. what a rough way to kind of get to the end of this guy. It just freaks me out, honestly, that this is what politics is. It's, I just wish that people could play better. It's just, the older I get, the more removed I want to be. It's like you have to learn more about it and then pick your side or whatever, but it's

hard to pick one. Well, look, you take the money out of it, man, and it'll change everything. The unfortunate thing is that it's gone so far. I mean, I think in 94 is when it was passed where corporations could actually not say where the money was coming from. Although the super PACs. Yeah, the super PACs, right? Yeah.

And that wasn't allowed up until I think 94. Is that right? Yeah. Oh. Maybe 97. But since that was, you know, able to happen, it's become so corrupt. I mean, it's almost there's no stopping it at this point. Hmm.

Yeah, that's definitely a problem. Because there's so much money in that part of it Well, the only way you can become anywhere near presidential is to have a billion dollars Hmm is that how much a campaign is I think it's even more than that, isn't it? No shit really? I'm throwing numbers out. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot though. It's definitely like a quarter of a billion to run for president Like you can't do it for cheap. Oh, and how about the thing that they were also talking about Mitt Romney having his his earpiece in Right like how is that allowed dude when you're at a when you're at a town hall speech?

And he's got his earpiece in with somebody answering the questions for him come on a little bit of reverb like Come on come on. What's this of revob. Like, eh. Come on. Come on. Was this Millie Vanilli running the country daily? Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, and on Millie Vanilli, let's end it. That's a good note.

Yeah, let's end it. Thanks guys. As always for listening and, uh, yeah, just have faith that we make it through all of this stuff. I mean, stay strong. Yeah, just have faith that we make it through all of this stuff. I mean... Stay strong. Yeah, stay strong. What else is there?

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