Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 282 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Andrew Schultz Et al.

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

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Los enbases del verano Siempre van a la amarillo You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast and pass them on to you. Perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan en cualquier manera. Puedes decirlo como el chico de Joe Walking Dead. Yo estoy escuchando a Joe Rogan Experience Review. ¿Qué es eso? ¿Qué creemos?

Ahora con tu costa, Adam Thorn. Me parece que es algo más importante que el que te va a hacer. Si, por favor, me voy a ir. Pero ¿cómo es posible que sean las tres de la tarde? ¿Qué lleves casi una hora de atascote? ¿Qué te quede todo el camino por delante? ¡One, two, three! el mejor momento del año. Llegan tus vacaciones. Este uno de Julio sortió extraordinario de vacaciones de Lotería Nacional con 20 millones aún decimos. Lo tería a te recuerda que juegas con responsabilidad y solo si eres mayor de edad. Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. Join us always, well at least recently, by my buddy Todd. What's cracking?

Feeling good today buddy, always a pledge. Nice, well we got some white clothes, kick off the summer heat here in Boseman Montana. Oh, yeah, check out our Instagram at Joe Rogan experience review at Instagram. I don't know. You'll be able to find it. It's the same logo that we use. We're going to be putting up some fun little things. hopefully it's fun, where we have, I don't know, like question of the week or something like that. This week, this question is, what is Joe Rogan's favorite pizza? What are the top things?

So you can go on there and answer that, and we're gonna figure out some prizes and things like that. We haven't quite dialed it in, but we will. We'll get that. But it's gonna be some fun stuff. Sounds fun. Also in Rogan News, this week you couldn't follow him on Instagram. It was like a thing. He posted it and it wasn't letting people follow him. I don't know what that's all about.

Facebook and Instagram are going down, man. Well, I'm just pretty popular. I mean, even my own father today mentioned that TikTok is way more popular. It's just funny coming from a 73 year old guy. TikTok is very popular. Yeah. I don't use it. And I understand there's like some pressure maybe to like take them out or ban it because it's Chinese company.

You know, and maybe it does have a bunch of software in that's watching everything we do, but doesn't Facebook and Instagram do that anyway? I was just gonna say, I almost feel like it's like Zuckerberg pressure and you know, TikTok out. He is worried and actually from what I could tell, at least with all the COVID stuff, when people are trying to give a different perspective on TikTok, it doesn't get taken down, it doesn't get shadow banned. Mm.

So, maybe that's what they're scared of. From what I could tell, I have one friend in particular who, you know, call him a conspiracy theorist or not, love the guy, he has a lot of alternative ideas and he was banned from both Instagram and Facebook. Started his TikTok account and nothing's getting banned. It'll still show the little COVID thing on the bottom, right? Like learn more about COVID

because he's talking about, you know, he's referencing things that have to do with it. But anyway, seems to me like they're not as invasive on what people, like they're not trying to stop you from talking about anything you want to talk about. They're a little, they're better with freedom of speech. Well, this is why I like the competition in general, because it makes everyone better.

You know, it makes everyone in the industry have to work harder. If Facebook corners the market with Facebook and Instagram, and I guess they're still Twitter, but they've got no real competition for X, Y and Z, they can start putting all the rules in that they want to know and can do anything. But if there's other avenues we can go to, like imagine if they made a parallel Instagram that was just as good and people started to flood over there. I mean, that's how things like MySpace disappeared is because Facebook had a better interface and I mean, people jump ship them immediately.

And I bet that's something that Facebook worries about a lot. I don't even really know who is still using Facebook. I mean, I guess a lot of people. Old people. I don't use it. I have, I never really go into it. Everybody's parents are using it. No one else uses it anymore.

Yeah, I don't. But I, Instagram's fun. I like the memes. I'm into it. Look, there's always room for competition. There's room for more. And I'm not a huge fan of Zuckerberg. So I would love to see somebody else come in and take the, take the prize. We'll see what happens. Let's see. We'll see. But anyway, yeah, doing that to Rogan is like, why? What are you doing? What is he posted? So controversial. so controversial? So did we never get, do we not get the answer on that? Of why they took him down? They never tell you. Dumb. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure you can

follow him now. It's just like a thing that happened that I'm glad there are people out there that keep an eye on it, right? Because so much of this stuff goes under the radar. It's not like they report what they're up to. Sneaky. Sneaky guys. All right, let's move onto the reviews. We have Zachary Levy, the Shazam guy. And the marvelous Miss Maisal character. That's where I first saw it, my thought.

I thought he was really good in that. Wait, which guy was he? In Marvel's... The Bullys' nasal. No shit. Yeah. It doesn't look like him at all, dude. Yeah, I like that character. Yeah, it looks exactly like. Boy, he has like a 1950s haircut.

I just didn't put the two together. Fair enough, but that's him. Yeah. He acts much different in character. Well, he, he was definitely revved up on this podcast. Bloody, he was talking eight miles a minute, bud. He had a lot of energy. He had a lot to say. I mean, a lot to say there were some, there were some good chats there. He definitely good attitude, but it, it was close to this guy's on

Adderall or he's had a lot of coffee. Or maybe he's a younger guy, maybe he's just a huge fan of Rogan, which he could have been. And was just super pumped to be on the pot. A little nervous, you know, maybe. Yeah. Bit of that. I'm not sure.

Well, he's all about love. That was his message a lot of times. We need love, not fear. I feel like he'd just come come back from a meditation retreat. It seemed that way for sure. He was pumped to tell people about love. If you have had those friends that went traveling and then they get back from a multiple month backpack

and their change. Oh, they have to tell you all about how you have to do it. You gotta do it. You gotta go. Well, not enough Americans travel in general, because everybody's scared. They like think you're going to get shot by the cartel if you go to Mexico. It's ridiculous. I don't know if it's just that. It's also like a long way to go to Europe. I mean, it takes a lot more than just you go, you know, my English brothers would do all the time. Okay. Well, Chevy Chase did it like five times and he that was great. He took his whole family

and he was fine. Why is rich? It was the 80s. You can do it. Oh you have that. It was worth disaster. Come on Russ. Come on. So what else you got? What else you got? My biggest part at the beginning there was the they were talking about Americans eating sugar, right? And how ridiculous it is, the food pyramid was basically run by the sugar industry. Yeah. I mean, I've been... That pyramid will be in a museum one day and people will go, what? Why aren't more people talking about this kind of stuff? Like, are we finally all, is this going to be like a date? They have other stuff for us to worry about, Todd,

so they put it in the news. That like you need to be worried about ambahust and Johnny Depp right now and also eat some sugar. Enjoy yourself. You know, you have your kid and daycare and they're following this food pyramid that's essentially

give me more sugar and less fat and it's the total opposite of what we need in our body. Ideally. Yeah. So, they talked a little bit about that. What else? Oh, Joe's new club. The reason that it's taking so long to open is he had a club first, but it had some drainage issue And they needed the special pond and it could have been polluted and he was just like get out of it and that

The reason that stood out to me is because I've been following this and waiting for this club to open for so long I was really curious why the first one didn't work out But yeah, I think he said maybe the new year, he might be able to get it open. We're going, right? I'd love to, yeah. Let's do it. Needs to be done.

Little pilgrimage of comedy. Austin's great. Yeah, so stay away from that. That was so sweet. Stay away from the corrupt creeps in charge of making all the decisions. They went from the food pyramid to talking about these medical devices.

Did you watch that movie The Edge? No. It was called The Cutting Edge. It was a documentary about, you know, people come in, they get sold a medical device by somebody selling medical devices, right? And then the hospital in turn is getting paid to use these devices.

They're saying that they're FDA approved and then all of a sudden you get some sort of weird mesh put in your body for a particular surgery and then all of a sudden, you know, three, six, eight months later, you're later, you've got like, gain green or something crazy, like it's like just your body thinks it's a toxin

and just wants to get rid of it, gets all infected and fucked up. And this kind of stuff happened in all the time. But I think it works on some people, maybe more people than less. Right. So there's just a lot of people. But it's similar to in the way that, you know, money talks, right?

And if you've got this device and you say it works, and they kind of rush it through, kind of like they did with COVID, we're just, we need to get this out. We got to do it. It's a good thing. Well, have they done enough tests? We don't know. If you go in there to get the surgery, you want to trust your doctor.

I don't know if there's a lot of people who lose in trust in everything. Well, unless you can start doing surgery yourself, I think that you should probably still believe in Western medicine. What do you think'm not saying crystals together to your cancer. Pro settled down. I'm not talking about crystals. I'm talking about the people being paid off to use certain things, just like lobbyists

are being paid off. I mean, they got into it. They got into the nuclear stuff. They got into lobbyists getting paid off, talking about. Rogan keeps mentioning this, the inside job, which I have yet to see. I need to see that film, which is going to be upsetting, but I want to watch it. Mm-hmm. Have you seen it? No.

He's mentioned it like four times. Yeah. In the last couple months. Yeah, it's a must. It's a must see. Sounds like. Yeah, I mean, well, Zach talked a lot about being in therapy and depression and being real close to killing himself, at least like nine out of 10.

And did he say nine out of 10? I think so. He said he was close a couple of times. In that sense, I don't know what nine out of 10 means to him. Maybe it was just a bad feeling. Nine out of 10 to me is like you're on a chair. Like you tried with it. Yeah. And maybe you slept weird and then got scared or something. Uh huh. The rope broke and you went, all right, not today.

But either way it sounds bad. And I'm glad that that more people are speaking about this stuff. The last UFC, patty Pimble don't know whatever his name is, the British guy, he won a pretty spectacular fashion in the second round. And he, you know, he seems like a wild character, someone that, you know, I would say it's easy to just judge as saying, hey, this guy's not a very reflective human being.

He's just wild, loves the fight, says crazy stuff, eats pizza. But one of his friends recently killed himself. And after the fight, he said he had a little message for it where he dedicated the fight, he said he had like a little message for it where you know, he dedicated the fight to his friend and then also said, hey, if there's anyone out there, men especially that are struggling, speak to somebody, you know. And the fact of that is at the end of a UFC fight. I mean, that's not really like the place you'd expect to get that message from. Yeah, not your typical spot, for sure.

But it's just that this is such an important message that it's not getting out enough and people are using any platform that they can get to do it. It's a good reminder. It's just a good reminder. Well, and it's just nice to see that the stigma is becoming, it's beginning to die off, I guess. The stigma is becoming erased, hopefully. It's getting better.

I mean, it's an important message that Zach was talking about when Joe was like, put your hands on him and your toll and you've got money. Like, why do you get depressed? Like, I don't think Joe's ever had depression. And it takes nothing away from him, right? It's like he is either oriented his life really well to not fall into some of the traps that come with it.

And he's lucky enough to not have any sort of hormonal imbalance that causes this. Right, so he's a lucky guy. I can relate to that. I didn't understand it either until tragic event, you know, my father doesn't get it. He's still trying to understand it. Yeah, and that's okay, right?

But he's thinking about it because of the stigma being erased, right? But Zach is said on the pod that like, oh, I don't feel like I'm allowed. Like I can even be justified being depressed because yeah, things in my life are good. Like he's genetically gifted and has talents and it's almost like depression is so clever

that it will justify anything that you are to feel even worse about having it. Right? Exactly. No matter how good you are or how the world perceives you, you're going to feel that way no matter what it is. It's almost intensified if you're the man. Right?

Like if you're the shit. Yeah, guys a professional actor. It's like if your best friend kills himself, yes. Maybe you don't feel as much pressure on yourself to turn to people and say, hey, I'm having a really hard time with this. This was super sad. But for people to just feel really terrible

and have nothing to point to it, it's almost like we have to have something to blame that feeling on. Then they don't feel like they can talk to anybody. It's like they can't justify how bad they feel. They feel like they feel like a burden to others, just with their thoughts. Yeah, and it doesn't seem to matter.

You can just be like, I feel really terrible and I need to talk to somebody and I don't know why maybe or what it is or maybe the thing that I think it is doesn't sound like a big deal to anybody. Something small, I didn't get that part in that movie. And it's like, okay bro, big deal, you're still a famous actor. But to them, it's really difficult. They need someone to talk to about it.

Yeah, I mean, the smallest thing could trigger, you know, you could have, you could answer the phone and it could be some, you know, someone on the other line who you don't want to talk to or maybe, maybe it's just a telemarketer and it just pisses you off and it, all of a sudden, you're depressed for the rest of the day. It doesn't matter what it takes. It does happen. It doesn't matter what causes it. It's created and how do we take the steps to mitigate it? Yeah, then we're talking about it.

It's talking, talking it out. I think it's when people don't and they keep it inside, which often people do, almost everyone does, I think it's when people don't and they keep it inside, which often people do, almost everyone does, I know I do. That's when you, that's where it gets dangerous. That's where it gets dark, because it festers inside and it's, you're only you with your internal dialogue trying to figure out this problem out and often you trap yourself. It's good to get it out.. It's good to get it out.

It's all of us can get it out. It's all of us can get it out. Exactly. Like now he's done plenty of therapy, big advocate for it, you know, turn a new leaf, and that makes a big difference. Yeah, you can tell he gets excited to talk about it. It, like pumps him up just to hear, you know, to hear, to get those voices out of his head, his own head, really. I have to mention this part because I'm a huge proponent to nuclear power. I think it's the future. I think it's the way to go. I think people need to quit freaking out about nuclear because coal powered plants are ridiculous and make absolutely no sense for the future of mankind.

So they talked about Pandora's problem, which is a great documentary. I haven't seen it yet. I did watch Bill's brain. I think I've told you about that. not a huge fan of bill, but whatever. You know, he created Microsoft, Apple's way better, but that's fine. You know, he didn't take acid like Steve Jobs back in the day, so that is creative. Yeah, well, we'll see about that. You should ask him. All right.

But anyways, the methods are way better now. The fail safes are way better. You can recycle the waste. It just makes sense. That's all I got for Zachary today. Yeah, you wouldn't nuclei a power plant lobbyist I've been on I just want because I want clean energy and they they brought it up And I was excited to hear that they talked about it. I like it too. It's coming up a lot

I mean, I think that we kind of faced with having to deal with this Anyway, I like Zach. I hope he's on again and maybe slightly, you know, a few less coffees, maybe next time. You know, great guy though. Great guy. It was a worthy lesson for sure. Let's jump over to the legend that is Andrew Schultz. Verano, verano, reciclar es tan tu mano Es la lata de aceitunas que te tomas a la una, la crema que se termina cuando estás en la piscina El en base de ese polo que no se recicla solo y una lata de caballa que te coves en la playa La usaré las patatas y del refresco la lata, un en base de paya y del agua What a guy. Yeah. He's just funny, man. I sometimes I don't watch the podcast, right? But he's the guy you want to watch when you're listening. He's so funny. He's so relaxed. He's such a good podcast. There's such a good conversation list. And yeah, brilliant.

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Shultz was a go-giver. He's a go-giver. I can just feel his energy like he wants to help others. He was talking about helping other comedians. He bought his own show back, right? He supposedly has a great network of friends. He's really supportive to other comedians. I know when Brandon Sharp did his second special because his first one was potentially a little rush. Joe thought it was. He still did it because he's brave and gave it a shot and it didn't get perceived well.

Why was it? What do you mean by rush like they just didn't take enough time to produce it? It's not. I don't know. The ins and outs of all of it, but you know, he was newer to comedy. So it was a quick turnaround from starting to his own special and specials are hard to make. It really hard.

I mean, no matter how much you laugh at a special, you would laugh 30% more if you saw it live. So imagine how much, how good somebody's hour needs to be to be able to do a good special. And I'd seen Brendan plenty of times live before he did that special and he was good He's been getting good quickly and I enjoy a lot of his comedy He has good crowd work. I mean, it's not that he's not good

He just didn't come across all that great. So the second special shots was like where are you shooting it flew down to wherever? Brendan was watched him do it live, gave him some pointers, like just a good dude, and he's a supportive guy, you know. He doesn't see it as like, oh, it's all about me getting famous. And he wants to bring other good comics up, take them on the road, do podcasts with them. He's on it. People shows all the time. Just look at the way he described making the intro. He

had Bruce Buffer on, which is a legend. That's awesome. And then he had that guy that inspired him to put his stuff on YouTube, that musician that was like putting something out every week. So then he had him do a song for his special. He didn't need to do that. He could have got a bunch of great artists to do songs, but there's just something in there that I really like. Like he's a loyal, he appreciates the people that have helped him and in turn, he helps him back, right? He's a good friend.

Mm. So all the dude, I think that's why Joe likes him a lot. Oh, got to mention the Grizzly Bear Attack. Yep, that's up here and good old, the abosam. What was it? Montana or somewhere? I think wasn't it in Yellowstone. So, the lady got pulled out of her tent. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, be careful up here, guys. And actually, Rogan mentioned the Instagram handle, two runs of Yellowstone, which I thought was great. I'm sure that got a bump in some followers that day.

No doubt. I meant to follow it, but I forgot that you follow it. I already followed it. Yeah. Is it good? You know, there's a lot of the same things going on, but yeah, I mean, it's still great, you know, watching people be dumb in the park, getting way too close to wild animals, thinking that they can pet them.

So yeah, it's a worthy account. Yeah. Anything with homes and clothes, you don't want to pet. Or was it for those things for a reason? It just amazes me how, even after living in Montana for 20 years, I remember when I first moved here knowing that you don't get close to a wild fucking animal. How do people not understand that?

I don't care where you're from. Well, if they're from a city, they might not know. This isn't the petting zoo people. I mean, the Darwin Awards are real in Yellowstone. Yeah, well that's how you get on the list. What did you think about shulz? They're talking about pronouns. We've all been, you know, this has been a hot topic lately, but I love what he just said. I just want to make sure my kids don't get killed at school. Can we just start there? Yeah, you know, that's a bad

thing. It seems important though. So like, can we can we start there? Can we keep the kids safe before we start talking about how many pronouns we have? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but let's focus on the safety of our children. There's certainly a priority issue at the moment, I think, people worried about a lot of stuff. And there's bigger issues, right?

I mean, also the archaeologists not being able to identify ancient burial sites and the gender of the skeletons they find because we don't know how they identified. That's just a waste of air talking about that ridiculous. Unsympathetic. How is that? Part of that real. Come on. Let's focus on more important issues. It's got to be a thing that like a few years from now people are just like, what were

you doing? They half, we, I really do think, and it's not to give all the issues that are going on today, like some shit, but I think that they're going to look back at this time around COVID and go, I think people started to lose it. They will lose in it, bro. People are losing it. Did they mention the, how to change your mind? Doc, I think they started, Schultz mentioned it or Rogan mentioned it. I don't. No, well, anyways. I mean, they have been talking about it.

They've been talking about it. That's definitely a worthy watch. Or the, talking about how politics should be like jury duty. I thought that was brilliant. Mm-hmm. You know, like we all have to do it. Oh, because they're talking about Israeli kids having to go off to war or not war,

but being the military at 18, right? You have to serve two years. Yeah, prescription. And how maybe it would help with patriotism, not saying it will, but they, you know, it was mentioned that maybe we'd be a little bit more patriotic as a country if we had to serve in the military for a couple years now. I don't know if that's exactly true. I think there's some merit to that realizing that kids need discipline, right? Just like if you play on a team or a sports team, it's good for you.

You got to get up early, you got to do shit, you got to work out, you got to your team player. It adds this mental toughness as well as physical toughness. That's good for kids. It keeps them from being lazy. I think there's a lot of potential elements to it that could be useful, you know, like not everybody in their lives will do hard things. They just want they won't do hard, difficult things that they don't like and they will be forced to do it. That would happen during that time. And that could be beneficial.

Though there's some downsides too, like America's built on freedom. That's not like exactly a very freedom event because it's forcing people to do something. Yeah, and I didn't agree with it, but it made me think about the discipline you get just being on a sports team or if you're forced to do something, whether you want to do it or not, I feel like a lot of the times you end up thinking, oh, well, that wasn't that bad. That was, and I'm not speaking to military. I'm just speaking of having to do shit when you're younger, like whether your parents make you get a job or you get a good job. Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm just telling you, well, I think the benefits of that could be, I'm just telling you what I think the benefits of that could be. And there are some downsides to that whole process as well, but you're right.

Exactly that. The only thing is what you're saying directly, like go join a sports team, that's also a choice. So plenty of people don't do those things. They don't challenge themselves. What I like about the idea of sports and martial arts does this, you get to two. It forces you to compete against other people that are usually in your age,

and your sex, and it gives you an idea of what the skill level of others is. And if you think about someone that works in a cubicle, and doesn't really do anything outside of work, and then they just watch TV and barely go to the gym They're not competing against other people like them So they have no idea they have no comparison of like oh there's levels to this and you get to choose like Do I want to keep doing this? Do I want to get better at it the better you get at Sports or any kind of competition is the competition itself gets better.

So you have to pick up your game. I mean, that's important. You even take the best NFL athlete. If they weren't required to do that, they didn't get paid for it. And there weren't other teams, even those genetically super gifted people wouldn't be as good at that thing. It's the people they compete against that push them. So those things are, I think, super important

for development or getting good at anything you want to do. You got to see how good other people are at it. Yeah, I think there's a lot of merit in all those things. I also think that JFK was an amazing president and they showed, I wasn't alive yet, but you hear all these good stories about the guy, seemed like a pretty honest guy, maybe other than his infidelity, but Mara Lama wrote, shout out, good for him, good for Mr. President. The secret society message I had never heard that before. It was right near the end of the podcast and

you know, Joe obviously went into a bit of a conspiracy there with you know, how or who shot him whether it was CIA thing or not. We don't know yet. Doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on with that. What we can agree on is that he didn't like what was happening in Congress and he was calling people out. He was a badass because he was like, uh-uh. All this secretive stuff, no, we need debate. It's like the opposite of what's happening now, right? He wanted to see people debate.

That's what makes a good government, right? That's how you change things for the better. You debate. You come up with ideas. It's none of this lobbyist bullshit that we see now. It's, this is in the 60s, like they actually still had real debates. I think back then they would do Republican and Democratic dinners together. They were friends.

Yeah, they may have talked more and that probably does help. I don't think they're maybe trying to get more of a solution-based approach. Democracy, right? So it was it was worthy of listening to it. It made me want to listen to more speeches from JFK. Yeah, I mean, Joe has been a big fan, I guess, of the conspiracy of JFK for some time. I mean, he's read a ton of books on it. It's such a wild event, and that they want to just pin it on one guy. Yeah, I don't believe it. I don't know. It would be cool though, if they release

some some documents finally slipped and it just had like the whole plan in there. I wonder what I would do. I mean, will we really lose faith in the government today knowing that this happened like over 50 years ago, we might just be like, oh, that was just the government then. I think people are too consumed for it to maybe matter at this point. It would be too busy. Too busy being consumed by TikTok.

Yeah, Nancy Pelosi video was great. What they asked her about the trading. Oh, dude. And she's like, her now, now, now, walked off. She's a professional actress. If that wasn't, I mean, that's a red flag. I mean, we all know, they're all doing it. They know what's going to happen and what's not. And then they tell their husbands or their significant others, their spouses, hey, guess what? In next week, this is going to go public. We should probably buy some stock. Who's,

who's not going to do that? It's all controlled by money, man, greed. Would you do it if you were a politician? I would never be a politician, so that's a silly question. All right. Unless I had to be on jury duty, like, like, that's the only star. That's the only star. That's the only star. Yeah.

It's a good idea, man. It's like everyone's forced to be a politician at some point in their life. It just keeps it more normalized. Oh, people would do such terrible jobs. It really does ask that. We'd start to learn how many alcoholics we really have in the country. People just show up hammered. The thing that Joe said about sending, he sent like something like 30 nurses to people or 30 people have got nurses from him while they

went through COVID because he wanted to help them with that. Pretty, pretty powerful thing. He's helping you. Especially because he's just singing as like a bit of a, you know, since the controversy, it's easy to dismiss Rogan if you're not a big avid listener to be like, oh wow, he doesn't believe in this, this and this and these things. And well, no, actually, what did you do for your friends? How did you make them healthier? You know, what did you, you like,

he's encouraged people to lose weight and be thin through this, maybe even drink less. And he's sending IV nurses to people's houses that he cares about. Andrew's wife was one of them. Yeah, I think that's great. Good job, Jill. That's a pretty dope move.

Okay, let's jump over to Mikey Mousa-Mackie. I think that's how he says last name. Good old Mikey. Well, Jiu-Jitsu legend, for sure. Absolute legend. For some reason, at the beginning of the pod, I somehow clicked on my phone and deleted all of my notes for Mikey. But I am already a big fan of his and pretty much remember most of what I wrote down. Well, I've got you, buddy. My favorite thing, one of my favorite things is finding out that he eats pizza and pasta every day. Every day? It's all eats. Once a day at night is what did he say,

a pound of pasta that he gets from Italy because it's not full of glucosamine and all the other crap we put in our foods in America. The glucosamine. And gluten, but glucosamine. Oh, he didn't mention that, but it's in there. I feel that was good for you. I used to have a supplement that was glucosamine.

Oh, sorry, glucosophate, excuse me. It's the roundup. It's what they spray on wheat to get rid of insecticide or pesticides. Oh yeah, it's not full around of it. Okay. Probably the reason why we're have so much high cancer rates in this country. I don't even think it's the gluten, but anyway, I enjoyed hearing him just say, hey man, it's what makes me feel good. I've gone through all these different you know diets. I've done the he's gone through the whole gamut of diets. I mean the guys had to make weight Thousands of times to to get on the map. Yeah, and this is what works for him And he's just a happy kid man. What's he 25? He's just a

It's a smart guy what he said he learned Portuguese using Google translate. That's pretty amazing. He's just like asking able questions. Take him long either to I think back to the food thing though what makes this work well is He eats once a day, right? That's the type of fast thing you can probably eat. I, you could probably eat a lot of things. Well, maybe not potato chips, but yeah. Yeah, that probably wouldn't get you working at full capacity, but, you know, just the fact that he's burning so many calories every day with his training, and he's young still. So he's just a well oiled food processing machine.

You know, combined with the fact that he's giving his digestive system a 20 hour break or something close every day. I mean, those that type of way of eating it works well. Well, and he mentioned the law of attraction, you know, Joe asked him about what kind of books he's read and stuff. He seems to be on that mindset of like, hey, if I'm happy and I'm feeling good, he talked about stress keeps you from losing weight. He goes, man, I'm happy eating pizza.

I grew up eating pizza. I am positive with my favorite food. As long as I do the intermittent fasting in between, it's awesome. Yeah, that's the sacrifice bit, right? And he's not stressed out. And he's not giving into pizza and chips or pasta five times a day and not doing anything.

He's drilling for 12 plus hours some days. Then he eats exactly what he likes. And is, I mean, how can you argue against that regimen when he's a five time world champion at 25 in an incredibly hard discipline. Yeah, and the active recovery, I got a lot out of that one where he's talking about how he was overtraining and you know, they mentioned the Russian athletes, you know, the Russian athletes are very strict regimen and you know, they would check people's heart rate in the morning when they wake up and if it was too high They would know if they were overtraining or not, right?

But he he found out that he was overtraining and in order to I guess get his nervous system back in check and feel good again and not feel burned out, he would run instead of just resting, which he said you could kind of tell me they're more nervous or just like he wasn't recovering as fast as he should have been in his own mind. I think he said that he was like still achy. Like it almost made him more tired to not run which was interesting right So I don't know if that necessarily couldn't work For everybody though remember he's like a top flight athlete true So maybe he can somehow do this, but I like the idea of it

It will be interesting to try it for good idea You know when you do train quite a bit and you get that one week where you just feel completely worn out It might be worth throwing that out. Yeah, and when you're an athlete at that caliber 130 beats per minute you're really just doing a light jog You know, but keeping that heart rate up is what he was saying was helping him in this recovery process, right? Mm-hmm. Just like it's like working through anything helping him in this recovery process, right? Just like, it's like working through anything. Sure.

And like you said, it could just be him because he's a frickin' maniac and just has so much energy. You know, he just can't stop. He has to keep running and he's got too much energy. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, it does sound like that he pays a ton of attention to what works.

Like he's kind of analyzing everything. Even down to that, like, SIE, buried dessert that he has. Have you had those that are great? Yeah. The Aussie E-Bulls? Pretty sweet. I don't do a lot of that. They're a little sweet, for sure.

Yeah. Or the deprivation tank. I didn't realize that Eps salt actually helps in your recovery, that they were talking about that, right? Yeah, I mean, it absorbs into your body and it's magnesium, a lot of magnesium. And that's good for your muscles. So and the heat obviously helps. I mean, people that get like real sore,

sometimes they like to take those epsom salt baths. But it's not that, you know, often you're not using that much epsom salt. You follow the directions that says like two cups, and it's a hot bath. So it's probably mostly the hot bath that helps. Right. Though in those deprivation chambers,

I mean, they have as much as 1100 pounds of that salt in that. So you're getting, I mean, because you float higher up, like that's so much salted, it's almost saturated with it. Yeah. No, I've tried it. It's great. I felt like I was floating for a few hours after getting out of that thing. I mean, you completely lose track of time. You've done it. Oh, yeah. I just have no, no clue what's happening when you're in those tanks. You've done it. Oh yeah. I just have no... I've done a bunch. I like him.

No clue what's happening when you're in those things. You can't, like, time goes away. You can't see anything. It's a really nice time if you can get yourself to relax. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who's claustrophobic, but, you know. Oh no, I wouldn't say that. I think people worry about that.

It's, I don't think it induces that. You kind of, it's just like, after a bit of time, it's just like being in bed at night time. It's just dark. That's all it is. And then you're comfortable. What I would say is I don't recommend it for people that maybe take a lot of stimulants,

or definitely don't do it if you're in coffee before you go in there, because you're just gonna be fidgety and kind of too wide. Well, definitely don't do it if you're in coffee before you go in that because you're just going to be fidgety and kind of too wide. You won't be able to relax. Yeah, taking that a bowl. That's a good way of doing it. Yeah, 160 degrees four times a week. That made me think I need to get into the sauna a lot more.

But Rogan does 160 and Mikey was saying he's more of the 140. 104 degrees. Yeah, well, because he does the inforreds. Are they where they both do an infrared? No, Rogan just does the regular one. Okay. But just the increase in red, red blood cell count was pretty significant. Getting rid of stress, getting that blood flow going. It's similar to the float tanks,

or excuse me, the ice, cold plunge, yeah, thank you. Yep. It's just getting on those regimens, man, even if you're not a professional athlete, I think there's just so much, and they talk about it over and over about getting into these regimens of the cold bath and the heat and it's just so good for your body.

I don't know what it is about humans that need that shit but it just feels so good. It's like dunking in the river yesterday. Yeah, I mean it's like almost talked to to death on Rogan's podcast because of every episode. Because it works. It does. It definitely does. Did you watch him? I had to watch one of his fights, because I hadn't seen Mikey fight before. I watched him beat the 45 year old legend.

What was that last year? The Japanese guy, what was his name? I think so. Kazamaru, I'm gonna screw up his name, sorry. Guys, a ledge. Oh yeah, I was just I'm gonna screw up his name, sorry. Guys a ledge. Oh yeah. I was just, I can't believe I forgot it now. But watching him.

Huminarie. Yeah. Watching Mikey take him down. I mean, Mikey was what, 23 and this guy's 45 and just built like a frickin' rock. Tank. Tank. And a killer.

He's wiped the floor with everybody for years. Yeah, he has like a big kind of move positioning thing named after him that umanaru role Well, doesn't Mikey have something named after him now, too. I think it's coming. Yeah, he has a choke the it's coming pretty Don't yeah, it's coming but see in the strength in those guys. I mean they were rolling around on the floor for a while I Mean if you watch it, it's not like Mike is using a lot of strength. He really doesn't. He just positions. He got in there. Well, yeah, he knows that I mean, this is,

he's a great representative for you, Jitsu. I think because let's be fair. He's like sweet kind of nerdy. He's got his glasses. He seems like the least scary person you could ever speak to. I mean, it's definitely not a bully. And he would strangle you to death in a second if he had to. Two seconds. No chance. No, I don't care if you're D-Bell from Friday. You're going down. You're going down. So what's good about it is when people like, oh, they go to an MMA gym or a jujitsu gym,

there's always guys there that are big and look mean. It doesn't mean they are. A lot of, most people at jujitsu gyms are really nice. They're all pretty sweet. It's just the culture. But it's still kind of scary to get that kids are used to dealing with jocks in high school and being bullied and seeing these meatheads.

So when you see someone like him and you know he's the best and he's just a sweet heart that's tiny. Yeah. He's just like, oh, maybe I could learn this too. For all those small guys out there, he's somebody to look up to like, oh yeah, I could be a bad ass. Dude I'm 6'5'3", I look up to that guy. Look, my idea is a legend. My brother-in-law will kick my ass so fast because he was a

wrestler, you know, down two seconds. Like, don't even try to fight him because he'll just take you down and pin you in a matter of seconds. He's not a jujitsu guy, but he's a, you know, he's a wrestler. Similar. Oh yeah. Dude. Yeah. Real quick. I'm for this, I'm gonna wrestle Jake soon. I'll see how good he is. And I love him. He's a great guy. Shout out.

Yeah, I mean, it's just inspiring and it's important to see it. And the way that he talks about it too is like, it's almost like just a mathematical problem. That's what he's solving. He's not being aggressive. He doesn't hate the people that he competes against and wants to beat up and he just wants to, you know, that's also why he doesn't train. How did he describe it? He trains with people that are just

coming to the gym. Tobias. Obviously. Just regular, you know, instead of going just pure competitors that like work often really hard and sometimes it's maybe overly aggressive or like go into win constantly. He works with his hobbyists and there his friends and they roll chilled and it makes him good. Right. Got to take my phone off. He didn't really explain why he does that though did he was it was it because it's less stressful yeah he said it's it's more relaxed people have more fun than on a serious so it's a good time yes to be there for many many hours he wants to have a good time he's obviously a kid that that pride himself and feeling good he he orients his life to feel good about what he's doing.

Well, any mentioned, I'm going to keep doing this because I love it, but also because I want to teach people this sport because it gives me so much joy in it, and it's just, you could tell he just loves it so much. I mean, the kit, I mean, he's just so passionate about you, Jiu-Jitsu. It's cool to see at such a young age. Yeah, well, I mean, well, he's one of the best. So of course, of course, but the way he presents himself, like even when he got done it at the end, it's been an honor.

He's great. Love that. Yeah, he's a sweet kid. I hope he gets comes back on. He's going to be such a big name in jujitsu for so long that I'm sure he will. You know, he's gonna be such a big name in jiu jitsu for so long that I'm sure you well you know he's like the tiny Gordon Ryan who is you know the greatest so yeah it's brilliant so would you who would you say is your favorite this week we don't do this often but did you did you have a favorite it's got to be Andrew I mean I really liked all three of them honestly but yeah Andrew Schultz I wanted to hear so much about just what was happening in his world. And I would have to agree.

It was the most entertaining, for sure. But I got a lot out of all three of those. It was a good one. I sometimes wonder with the MMA ones. Like, if people aren't in the MMA, or Jiu-Jitsu, what they're getting out of it, but what's nice about it is they're good conversations. Anyway, sometimes they go in pretty deep into the words of MMA or Jiu-Jitsu or whatever, but generally it just comes back to what are you into, what are your philosophies, and

they're, you know, often Joe has an expert in their field on the pod, even if it's a silly one like comedy, they're still great comedians. So you're getting to hear an expert talk about something they're passionate about. It's never a loss for that reason. No, I mean, I'm not a huge MMA fan. I think it's cool, but it's not something I follow. And I got a lot out of Mikey's conversation, absolutely. I mean, I like to hear about how people train, how people stay on top of their game. That kind of stuff interests me because I am an athlete, you know, in a, you know, I ride my snowboard down mountains. It's a lot different than being on a mat.

But I appreciate hearing what, you you know how to recover quickly. I've had a lot of back problems You know, it's always good to just hear what these athletes are doing when they get hurt and You know just their regimen man and I appreciate the diets too and that it was just fun to hear that this fucking guy is just eating pasta and pizza Everybody's pasta and pizza once a day. Maybe that's the next one we try We've been doing the carnival for a while. Should we do pasta pizza once a day? We better get a hook up from Italy for some good pasta.

Yeah, it'd be nice. I'm down, let's do it. Let's give it a shot. All right guys, well thank you, as always, for tuning in, obviously check out the Instagram, like I said, and we're gonna start posting more of the weekly questions. Maybe there'd be a quiz up there and some swag that you guys can win.

That'd be fun. And there we go. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks y'all. Peace out. You