Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 283 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Theo Von Et al.

Episode Date: August 4, 2022

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Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. This week, we have Theo Vaughn, Francis Foster, Constantine Kissin, and Rich Benoit. Is it Benoit? I thought it was Benoit. Oh, it's probably Benoit. Is it French? I think it's French. Oh, yeah.

The French. The French Kiss. The French. Theo, what a legend It's been a while since he's been on He loves those Smelling salts boy watch out you didn't you order some today? Thanks to that podcast It made Adam and I want to buy some smelling salts. Yeah, probably a bad idea I still don't really understand what they are, but I'm willing to try pretty much anything except for heroin. So let's go.

Well next week's episode may be brought to you by smelling salt, so let's hope so. I'll find out. All right, what do you got today Theo? Obviously ledge in the comedy world? How long has he been sober? He obviously has an addiction problem. You could tell with the smelling salts. Yeah. I mean, so do I. I'm not, no judgment here.

No, he's done like every type of AA therapy, sex anonymous type thing. He's working on his stuff. Why does he get sex anonymous? He's a, what is he's just, he has a problem with sex too? I'm pretty sure I heard on his working on his stuff. Why did you get sex anonymous? He's a, what is he's a, he has a problem with sex too? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I heard on his, on his podcast. He's addicted. That was the thing. I mean, who is it? Yeah, that one's reasonable, but good to get treatment, I guess. So they, they went over a lot.

They're clearly homies, right, which always makes for a fun podcast, but a lot of the times it kind of goes off into so many so many different directions. It's a little bit hard to follow. What what were some of your favorite favorite spots with Mr. Theo? Well, he's getting stress from success, which is an important thing to talk about. I think because it's fascinating really that people think that success just, you know, success and a lot of money solves all that problems. But not always true. Biggie Smalls, man, I mean, it's obvious. More money, more money, more money, more

problem. Right? It was not that cheesy. That's the same. No, it was, it was biggie. It was, it was Mr. Biggie Smalls. Yeah. Which he had to change his name to notorious BIG because there was already a biggie Smalls. I don't know if you knew that. I did not. True story. Well, I like a lot of BIG. But yeah, like, look, success is a hard thing to I mean everyone strives for it But not like hardly anyone gets there right and when you do It just creates more responsibility wasn't that isn't that the issue? It's what it sounds like and especially when you're more Responsibility as a public figure like comedians are you're getting a of, I'm sure he's getting a ton of, you know, negative reviews as well as positive reviews

and it takes the right mind to kind of get through those types of, that type of feedback, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it's an important message though. Like, Theo is so honest and it's one of the most kind of endearing things about him is that he will give you that message. Like if it was hard, if he's struggling, he talks about it. It doesn't pretend that something is, you know, better than it is just because that's how you should be perceived.

Yeah, there's no bullshit Not much. No, no, I don't think there's any bullshit with you at all That's why people like him. Yeah, it's got to be pretty common for that That type of thing like new pressure a lot of touring, you know just kind of crushing it on the comedy circuit. You know, big tour dates, everyone starting to know who you are. And then, okay, now I got to deal with this. Whereas before, I was just trying to focus on myself.

And it's this whole bigger world. You know, multiple podcasts. It's like an industry just builds around you. I'm sure he has multiple employees too, and that's like a lot to think about. Well, I mean, his podcast has had some pretty incredible, uh, co, not, I guess, co-host, but, uh, guests. Yes, thank you. Right? I mean, he's had some heavy hitters. He does great interviews. You know, he's talked to Jocco. That was a brilliant podcast. He's had Jordan Peterson on.

I think they really enjoyed talking each other. That was the one I saw was Jordan, because it talked about. That's how I found out he was dealing with his addictions. That's like the most unlikely matchup I would ever think of, and it worked great. I thought it was an amazing podcast. So fun.

So fun. They did talk a little bit about some successes like fasting, going back to that. Joe brings it up all the time, but just like the clarity of mind that it brings, and I guess Theo did. What are you saying? Seven days, seven days. What? It's too much.

Too long. I've done four days. You wanted to eat a Korean guy. If that's not a sign that you're fasting too long, I don't know what it is. How long? I mean, you do start listening. Maybe you thought it looked like a steak or something.

I don't know. Yeah. What was he at a home depot? Yeah. Yeah. Starving. Yeah. And Joe really hasn't done any fast thing at all.

He did. I think he once said he did a day, 24 hours. Yeah. That's easy. Come on. Well, but I feel like, you know, Joe jumps on these things. When these people come on and they say, hey, take this or try sauna or try cold plunge, he's all in.

He's all about whatever changes. Well, Theo said he had a cold plunge as well. But I'm surprised that Joe hasn't also said, yeah, and people have talked about fasting. I'll do that too. I guess he's not into it. Yeah, he didn't really explain why or why not, but he, you know, obviously there's plenty of research that's been done that when you fast it kind of cleans out your systemic. It starts eating away cancer, cancerous cells in your body, right?

Allegedly. There's no science behind that. There might be some, but we're not the FDA. So, well, FDA doesn't know anything. They know some stuff. Yeah, they know how to make money through Pfizer. Do you want to go down that road? Oh, dude.

Don't get me started, Fauci. Going off the rails here. Early. Love it. I told you I was in a mood today. Didn't they talk about SDD testing too? Like Joe was. SDD?

Yeah, HD testing. Yeah. That's what they did speak of Fauci at some point. And then I think Rogan was talking about Neutropics and like what is Fauci on because he's 80 something years old and he still talks like You know fluent it doesn't he's not like Biden where he's stumbling through his words They seem very you know clear in his thoughts which is you know I've only speak with a few 80-year-olds my stepfather being one of them and he tells me the same stories like every fucking time I talk to him.

And I just go with it, right? Yeah. So I know it just seems I don't not rude, but like it just, it just seems like I you don't want to embarrass them by being like, you just said this four times today. You know what I mean? Like I'll say it, I'll say it to my friends that are my age if they've told me before, because they're just like, oh, yeah, shit, sorry, I've just been saying this a lot.

You know, you catch him, but with all people, you kind of expect it after a period of time. Don't you think that we're going to figure out though of like I mean I feel like we're gonna figure out why that happens to people I mean we talk about traumatic brain injuries but you know there's that there's the studies with music when people get dementia and they'll actually start remembering more things if you play like a certain song that they used to know or they it for I don't know the science behind it, but I feel like within the next 20 years, we're gonna figure it out.

I hope so. You know, Diet Coke's probably the issue. Really? Okay. I've, as per James. This podcast is, happens to not be brought to you by Diet Coke. I say that because my grandmother, you know, suffered from dementia the last few

years of her life and she drank so much Diet Coke and then I remember hearing about how Aspertaim, which is like the main ingredient, it's like fake sugar, right? It's like some sort of sweetener like stevia, but probably worse for you. I don't know. Again, not a doctor, but I know that there's some links to that. And those are the types of things that we're going to figure out soon. I feel like, like, how could we not figure out what's causing that? But a lot of people drink Diet Coke. Yeah, and it's fucking horrible for you. Don't do it. Just saying.

You're taking a strong stance against Asperate today. Do you think it's good for you? Uh-huh. Okay, let me rephrase. Do you think sugar is good for you? Not too much of it. No. Okay. Well, Asperate Day is fake sugar, so I'm sure it's bad,

but sorry, I digress. No, I just think that probably drinking regular Coca-Cola's was, because that's just full of sugar. It's like 40 grams of sugar in that. Yeah, 36 grams per coke. I don't know, maybe some aspiratine. What did you think about, dude, the vape pens. He's talking about the vape pens and how,

so we've gotten into this, but he was cracking me up. What did he call it? He's like, they got flavors like kiwi puberty. The fucking cinnamon divorce. He's gonna, they got flavors like Kiwi puberty. Fuckin' cinnamon divorce. He's the cause. I mean, Theo just like, he'll just say the most random shit that's so funny.

Just out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. He has a special brain. He's definitely. What did he say? He loves nurses. They were like talking about porn. And Theo's like, yeah, I love the ones where there's like,

I love these people where there's like somebody who's mentally unwell in their family. Because those people are so caring. They're like nurses. He's hard to tell if he's like trying to find a joke or if this is like actually what he thinks. It's so difficult to read. That's true.

Like it really is. And I think this is just like how he thinks. Maybe trained his brain for this for comedy, but like it might just be that. And it just goes down his own rabbit hole of just hilarious shit. What did you think about that? The bodies of prisoners thing?

But is that a thing in China? What the fuck was that all of? You've never been to bodyworks? No, dude. So I went to England, and I remember, I remember I was on like a college trip. It's like a traveling show where they show dead people. So it's kind of, but they don't look like dead people. So what they do is they somehow drain the blood of the dead person, and they fill it with some sort of,

I guess, as like a plastic with a dye, so it's red. And then it fills all the arteries, veins, capillaries, and then they must just dissolve the body, and it stays in one piece. Is it like in a liquid? No, let's pull this up. Let's pull up a body works on that, if we could get it. It's called body works.

You wait till you see it. I don't remember them saying that. But they were saying they were using bodies of prisoners. Well, that was the thing. So when I was on the college trip, and this was like 2000, maybe like four early, right? Long time ago. And I remember turning to my biology teacher was like,

this is fascinating. We learn a lot about bodies. And yeah, see if you can pull up the ones with... The skin is like disintegrating. Yeah, but if there's ones of just like capillaries and things This touchscreen when you get touch cream here apples don't have touch screen But there's still far superior to any PC like I like touch screen But see if you can find one that just has like capillaries and just blood basically So it's not all the muscles. I'm so confused.

Anyway, yeah, so it's just like, all you see is like, it's like translucent skin. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's, I don't like seeing that at all. I don't wanna ever see that again. Well, I was popular for a while. Look at the basketball person. I could click that if this was like your computer.

I mean, they were talking about people with bullet bullet wounds in their body But that was the question I had where did they get the bodies from and my Professor the time was like oh this is all sanctioned and we come from a good and I'm like but do you know? No, no and I just ignored it. I you know, I was like all right I guess this is like how things are done and now Rogan's talking about that they get them from prisons potentially in these other countries. That's horrifying.

It is horrifying. Yeah. But not- But also, it was kind of fascinating. It was fascinating. Not really. What I thought was even more fascinating was the talk of finding Urgot in these old pottery. He's mentioned this before, because I think...

Oh, that's it. Yeah, because, well, LSD is synthesized from Urgot, which is a fungus that grows on rye plants. Or wheat to rye. Yeah. Some sort of, I think it's wheat, might be rye. Not sure the difference, just a different kind of wheat, right?

And there was a book on it, and I didn't write down the book, because he failed to mention the name of it, but he's been on Rogan before. But then now they're saying that Harvard actually opened up a new study of ancient study of the Greeks that talks about psychedelics. Really? Yeah, like they have a new course that studies ancient Greeks and psychedelics and

because of them finding all this old pottery in ancient Greek, you know, Rome or wherever that was. And yeah, they knew that these philosophers and, you know, whoever else may be uh... socrates was just how you can't be long i don't know what i mean they've had they've had these drugs long and we thought i think you know they found like um... well think i wasca i mean they've had that for hot we don't even know how long they figured out right how to how to use that are

flesh of the gods are is what mushrooms are called in Mexico. Is that right? Yeah. And I don't know how to say flesh of the gods in Spanish, but that's what magic mushrooms, that's the term that they use, flesh of the gods. No shit. Yeah, I learned that thanks to the Michael Paul in film,

which I'm gonna mention again, it's so incredible. You have to watch it. Yeah, check it out. But yeah, Flesh of the Gods. And yeah, obviously they knew about that for centuries, who knows how long. I don't know the date on that, but we're talking about ancient civilizations,

learning through medicine, plant medicine. It's a shame, you know, these old coaches didn't write things down. Like if they just made a note of like, hey, guess what, guys, we just found gold for the first time. We're just gonna make it, we're just gonna mock it down. Don't you think it's just hidden? Isn't that just like maybe history is just hidden those those reports? You mean tried tried to like a conspiracy That's what I'm getting at I I hate that term, but yeah, why why would be the motivation? Because they don't want people to know that magic mushrooms will heal the world. I don't know no, I

I just meant like why hide the dates of when things were discovered. I don't think they were like documenting this well. Maybe not. I mean, hieroglyphics documented plenty, right? Yeah. I don't know if they were taking hallucinogenics in Egypt. I don't think that that is well documented for whatever reason, but they probably were those guys knew at a party. I mean, Theo gosh, he definitely knows how to party, whether he's drinking or not. Yeah. I mean, you didn't invite him to a party, even if he's going to be sober.

He's like, I'm going to do an eight ball of these smelling thoughts They were wild on those things all the what about the thing Rogan was talking about with TikTok and the terms of a privacy I've never downloaded that I will never I will never now after hearing this podcast They can look at everything you do. That sounds like a bad idea. I wrote that down. It was a file names.

They can see you are basically saying yes, because no one reads the terms. No one fucking reads the terms. We all do it. We just scroll all the way down. We click accept. They are able to watch what you are clicking on on your computer and your phone. Like even how you...

I mean, does Facebook do that? Facebook might do that too, and we don't even know. Yeah. Which is also crazy. That's crazy to think that, imagine if you had infinite access to everything, and you find out there's a file on you in China, and they're like, right, Todd, and then it has what you like to look at, how quickly you click on stuff, like the types, and then they compare you to a bunch of other people that do similar things, they look at their, maybe their credit score, or like how

much money they make, or how their criminal record is. And then they put you in a similar category because you do similar things, even though it's not exactly the same. And then they're like, okay, that's this person's social credit school. Yeah, you got like a 12. And how crazy is that

to think that not only do they have that information, but also if they really wanted to mess your life up, like what they did with base hosts, they were talking about Pegasus. Dude, if they can hack him, they hack you so fast. I mean, it was a WhatsApp message that he got, was it a Russian bot or was it a Chinese bot? I think they think it was Saudi. Oh, it was a Saudi?

That's right, yeah, Saudis did it. So, yeah, if they wanna get you, what do they do? Just upload like 12 gigs of child porn on your phone, and then it's like, yeah, this guy's a pover. Good luck proving yourself wrong. Look, the future is no privacy. I mean, they chatted about that too. The future has no privacy.

And so hard to accept accept but kind of like Just kind of the norm unfortunately. I don't know how That it's like what what then what is the solution right you either are super careful all the time of what you post Then what you talk about and what you do all your Alunitech like we are and you just Just post hours and hours if you rambling on to the whole world and then you just let them decide. I don't know. I don't know either. It's scary times. Yeah. I do want to try out the hyperbarrick

chamber though. They did talk about that. Oh yeah. That that seems good. I mean, you know, you need to go in there with some Netflix, but oh, we got a spell. We got a spell. Todd can't be trusted around electronics. Yeah, I mean, the hyperbaric, I mean, it's getting information like data about how healthy it is. Yet at the same time, you gotta sit in like a tube for like an hour. Seems strange. Is it a frozen thing?

No, no, no. It's no liquids in there. Okay. Just you and the air and pressure. And it like squishes oxygen into your body. And they're saying that that's going to save what 30% of your life, like you're going to live longer. Is that the idea? Yeah, you tell me is something, something's going on. Seems kind of cool. Yep. All right, Well, that beer did not spill on the sound machine, AQA mixer.

So we're good. Let's jump over to Frances Foster and Constantine Kissin. I'd never heard of them before they came on. They definitely are good podcasters. And what I mean by that is they have, they keep the conversation going, they brought up interesting points and by interesting doesn't mean that I agree with everything that they said or vice versa, it just is like they kept the conversation smooth, they added, I mean they're good, those guys are good, I mean, they're good. Those guys are good. I need to listen to, what was it, Trig and Armetry?

Yeah, Trig and Armetry. I need to listen to that as well. Yeah, and they were occasionally funny. So you know that they would probably stand up. So I talked to my brother about this, who lives in London, and he decided and I'm not saying he knows everything, but he was like yeah, they had they had some Good points about England and then some that were a little wacky

I felt that they were kind of hating on their home country a bit a little bit I mean they were laughing about it, but I mean they were kind of given England some pretty heavy shit or at least London Well, I mean that part of it. I don't necessarily disagree with like it definitely is like a can do Supportive attitude here that you don't always get in England. Yeah, that's something that I notice, you know But then the political side of things, I just haven't been there enough for a long time. I don't follow the politics. I don't know what the wokeism stuff is like there. Yeah, and I don't really know enough about Brexit either. Isn't that just them succeeding from the UK? Like, is that how does that work? Because they said that

they were proponents of that, right? And that was how the podcast started was because of Brexit. I don't know if they're necessarily pro, but the one guy's mom and dad were. They, you know, and I think what it was is it was just like the fact that half or more of the country voted for it.

And then the other half were like, they're all terrible people. And these guys wanted to create a dialogue, which is reasonable, right? It's like, okay, I'm not saying that if you think that Brexit was terrible, that your opinion isn't valid or you don't like it, like most of my family thought it was terrible, you know, you don't like it. Like most of my family thought it was terrible. You know, they didn't like it. Well, it didn't, but it didn't happen.

It was just a, it was an idea. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Yeah, so they like pull away from American over here. That's fine You're doing great. Yeah, but yeah, they pulled away from that and it was complicated because for a lot of reasons that I even I don't understand but you know just the fact that a lot of people voted for it and then you know They were seen as racists or dismisses and he's just making the point that, hey, my parents are not those things, but they still felt this way. There seemed to be a lot of misinformation that was coming through about it too, which may have misled people. But either way, they made a podcast and they have got a lot of people listening that

that you know agree with the type of conclusions they're coming up with. And it's probably is a question of like freedom of speech. Like being able to just have an opinion and going with it to just have an opinion and going with it instead of feeling kind of shut down, right? So they talked a lot about how and we're seeing it here. It's like if you have an opinion on something, there's certain opinions that are just closed off. Like you can't be against the new type of vaccine. I mean, they almost tried to get Joe for that, right? Well, they talked about that over 10 window,

whatever that was. I don't know who over 10 is or why that is named over 10, but what you can explain it. What you can and cannot see in public, it just seemed like from what they were saying, and I don't know enough about it because I'm not from the UK, and I don't know enough about it because I'm not from the UK and I don't live

in London, but just having these comedy clubs or what do you call them clubs over there? Okay. Having people answer some sort of survey before and like what you can and cannot say in your act, what's going to fuck is that? It's going a fuck is that it's gonna fuck comedy that is so well he they were also saying how there's really not that many good comics from there but that's probably the reason why i mean i love rickie jirvay's don't get me wrong but i don't know that many comedians from the uk i just haven't seen them i'm sure they're hilarious they pointed out

and Joe pointed out to like stand up comedy in the modern way that is done was really developed in the US Well, yeah, but why would I only don't comedy here? And I've seen it. I've been to shows in England But I I see how it works here now Bear in mind I came into the you know the comedy ward in LA in 2016 Bear in mind I came into the comedy ward in LA in 2016. So Joe and the other people at the comedy store that were really supportive were already in effect. So it was a very supportive atmosphere, which was really nice because it didn't always

used to be that way. So for me it was nice. Like I was able to get in a good time. Like as hard as that is and it's brutal, it was still like, it wasn't a cutthroat environment. Everybody was supportive. And it seems to be getting more. And it seems to be getting more.

And it seems to be getting more clubs in the US that, and look, you know, all the top comedians, really. Like the top 10 generally are from the US Ricky's kind of an outlier because he, he's so good though. He's so fucking special. That's special. He's so funny. Wow.

Yeah, it was good. I really enjoyed Francis talking about being a teacher and being a drama teacher. Was he actually teaching other comics? It was like a high school class, right? The comedy classes he did was not part of his teaching, but he was a high school, like an English teacher before that. Is that what it was? I think so.

I can't remember what he said. Well, his comedy lessons that he was mentioning, Joe was asking him pretty good questions, like how did you do this and how did you have your students come up with jokes and he seemed to have a really good grasp on getting good material out of people. I got a lot out of that. I still back Joe on this comedy classes or you just gotta do it, lot on that. See me reasonable. I still back Joe on this, like comedy classes or you just got to do it.

Go up that. I mean, there may be a way, you know, there may be a few teachers. I mean, he was pro comedy class teaching, but I don't know if that's... You're saying Francis was pro comedy class teaching. Yeah, I don't think that that's... You're telling me, like like someone like Sam Kinnison is just fucking hilarious no matter what. I mean, they were talking about his sermons.

Well, he's still practiced. He's still there, but I think the work is the Yuan stage. And you just, it's a different type of learning process. It's almost something that really can't be taught in a class setting. It's just taught on stage. I don't know if I agree with that fully. I think that no matter what, you know, whether you're a writer, I mean, essentially comedy is being a writer. Okay. You're just a funny writer. It's not a writer. Okay, you're just a funny writer. It's not a writer. Well, okay, story tellers are writers, but yes, it's also being an actor.

You have to be good on stage. You have to know your punchlines. I get it. You have to, the timing has to be right. You have to know your crowd. There's a lot more to it, but at the end of the day, it's a lot about writing, writing what you're thinking. Yeah.

I mean, like Bill Bird doesn't write anything down. Nothing. He just does it all on stage. Well, he's insane. And a lot of them do it that way. Yeah, a lot of them do. Listen, the only reason this conclusion is set is not just a guess.

It's because they're just having been many, many of the, like, most of the top comedians didn't take any classes and it's not that common really that people coming from these classes necessarily become great comics. So it's unusual. It's an unusual art. Like you want to learn piano, you want to learn how to draw, how to make baskets or sculptures. Yeah. You got to learn. But the learning seems to be done on stage mostly. I feel that.

It's like if you're, you know, it's really hard to be taught how to paint, right? I look at it that way. If you're an artist, you kind of already have it figured out. That's not, I don't agree. No. I feel like you could take a lot of classes. I'm not teaching. I'm not talking about Bob Ross here. I'm talking about it.

No, but it's like, how do you describe it? Like an art form that, what's the word I want to look at? Like frozen, you know? It's like even with a song or music, you could be with your band and work on something and you're like this is good. Let's take this to the crowd. And then you then you play it and they either love it or they hate it, whatever, it's not like you change the song a bunch to make them love it.

With stand up, you just have like this crappy premise. You give it a shot, you go to an open mic, you got three minutes, it mostly bombs, but there's like one bit at the end that like they liked for some reason. You don't even know why. So the next night, you change it. The next night you change it. The next night you change it. Look dude you're you make magazines right for a living. Yeah. You don't release them and wait for the people reading the magazine to tell you what they liked and didn't like. Maybe you get some feedback but mostly you just prepare a thing you know it's good and you give it to them. Yeah. You can't be taught that. What do you mean? I can't be taught what is good or bad. I just have a feeling of what I like.

If you think you go to fucking graphic design school, or something. Yeah, but graphic design school didn't teach me shit. I made a lot of friends there. I didn't learn much. Well, what I'm saying is you would just stand up a lot. Like, you'll do the same set a hundred times. So you're always changing it as you go.

And while changing it, that's where you get the joke down. And then you move on to the next joke once you have that down. It's all done in front of the audience. I feel like that can be taught. I don't think it can be taught perfectly, but I think that anyone, look look anyone who's already a creative and Already kind of has a knack for Telling jokes or whatever is going to get better if they go to a class

I'm not saying that they need to like did Richard prior need to go to a fucking acting class or comedy class No, of course he didn't because he already had it in him Anyway, I don't agree and I Know and I don't what you what you think about Kinnison getting hit by a car talking about that and then rose in bar also getting hit by a car I had no fucking idea that was real Well, and maybe that's why she's crazy. Or do you think she was crazy beforehand? I don't know.

Joe seems to be pretty adamant. It's why she's impulsive. They're both impulsive. And if you have that, I don't give a fuck gene. It frees you on stage to do very well. Listen, one thing that we know, for sure, that recently happened is Rosanne went out to Austin, went up on stage, Ron White was there, Rogum was there, they persuaded her to go up, she hadn't

done it for many, many years. I don't care how good you've been in the past. Generally speaking, you're going to get rusty. This isn't riding a bike. Takes reps. Supposedly she killed she crushed and it's because you know, you might be in a bike for her It's like riding a bike for her probably and that's a unique thing, but that's also gonna make you You know say weird shit because you don't give a fuck

You know, but it doesn't mean that you're a bad person or you hate other people potentially. You just, you're a wild thing and you just speak in your own truth, which we all know the dialogue inside our own heads. Like we think of crazy things. We wouldn't say how loud. Maybe they just say them. And some hit and are funny and some really upset people.

You know, but you gotta, I think it's important to give certain people a break. It's like, we all have funny friends, right? And sometimes they say some things that are off the cuff and you're like, Jesus, dude, chill out. But mostly they're hitting the spot and it cracks you up. You do that every fucking day, thanks, bud. Love you. But it's not because, you know, I wanna upset anybody. Dude, it's like same things that I think of funny.

Speaking of crazy things. What's up? Did Michael Jackson's dad really like try to chemically castrate him? Is that real? I didn't look that up. I did not look that up, dude. But I will say,

it makes sense. I, it's good, good conspiracy theory. I don't enjoy MJ's music that much anymore. And that's, it's sad for me to say that because he's a fucking pedophile, sorry. Duty wasn't convicted. Fuck that. Yeah, have you watched the movie?

Which one? The one up that the kids that were basically like He was their mentor basically saying that they that they were completely Violated by MJ their whole life. Oh, they were children. Yeah, don't watch it dude because you won't like his music anymore It's that bad. It's fucking horrible. It'll make it'll make you cry dude. It's that bad I don't remember the name of it It came out like maybe four years ago after he was dead. What's the name of the? Sorry bad dude. It was like

There was like two dudes that were part of his choreography team and that were like dancers for him on stage I believe and so Michael Jackson pretty much groomed them throughout their childhood and was molesting them the entire time. According to this documentary, I don't know what it's called. The Michael Jackson documentary, I don't remember the name of it. But I mean, even Rogan was seemed to be pretty adamant about it. Yeah, I mean, the guess, you know, Francis was like pretty sure that that happened. I mean, maybe he saw it. Hate to say it. It's fucked up.

But it makes me like when Billie Jean comes on, I'd usually be all about it. I guess that's the point of me. Man, the mirror love. He's the way of separating the odds. It's hard. It's hard for me. Well, that's just, it's my own personal shit. Yeah, but that's reasonable. Because's hard for me. Well, that's just it's my own personal shit. Because I like your opinion.

He's obviously came up with some of the best music ever, right? But oh, leaving Neverland. Leaving Neverland. There you go. What's that on? Don't watch it. Don't watch it. Don't watch HBO. You're gonna watch it. Watch it. It is fucked up, bro. Well, I'd rather watch it than be ignorant of it. Well, you're not gonna like Michael Jackson's music anymore. So sorry. All right. Well, don't be mad at me if I still do. Yeah, I mean, doesn't mean I need like what happened i mean look

knowing that his father if that's true what his father did that obviously there's a reason why he was so screwed up in that that's another point right it's like like it's not as fault i hate to say that like he still did these horrible things if he did not gonna say did or not but it after watching the movie after watching the movie I think that he did. Okay. So saying that, it's weird to try and enjoy other things he did.

No, it's weird to say that, oh, well, it's not his fault because his dad was so fucked up, right? Like that's what made him so fucked up, right? I'm not saying that. I'm saying that. But if he did it or not, whether it's super bad or he has an excuse or whatever, like let's say, it was all bad. Can people still not enjoy the music or you have to completely disregard everything that they've done? I mean, it kind of feels like you should. It's sad. It's sad.

It feels like you should. It's just a sad thing in general, I think. You know, because his music, because the music's good. The music is incredible. No one is denying that. But after knowing whether he did it or not, but if let's say he did, it makes the music different, right? Because all I can think about it makes the music different, right? Because all I can think about is, you know, the weird shit that Michael did, if that were actually true. So anyway, enough about that. It's fucked up.

That is fucked up. Let's jump over to, on that fucked up note, let's jump over to Rich Ben Noy. Richie, I didn't know who this dude was, but I really liked him. Oh, he's been on Rogan before. I hadn't seen him before. I haven't seen his YouTube channel. I really liked just this dude's personality.

He was just a very sensitive guy. You could tell he just cares about the world. He cares about people. It kind of took him in it to kind of get him to open up a little bit after they talked about cars and Teslas and obviously they're both fanatics when it comes to cars and that sort of thing, which is cool, like that's not my stick.

I'm more of a van guy. I like to camp. Yeah. As, uh, as like a living your vehicle, as Adam would say, you know, the guy lives in Montana. He wants to be a hunter, but, you know, he thinks camping is too dirty and dusty and whatever. I mean, it's all right. Anyway, it's a bit of a whiteness and luxury. I'm gonna say it. Rich was, you know, once he started talking about his screenplays and his ideas for movies, you kind of really, I started to really understand him and his personality.

And it just made me want to be his friend. Like, you could just tell he's a good dude. Yeah, I mean, the whole story with the Starbucks guy and that idea of like all these lonely people out there is nice that he's paying attention. I mean, he's doing well. He has millions of subscribers on his YouTube. He's making money.

He gets to do everything that he wants and to take a step back and think about, you know, just the random people that he runs into and want to talk to them while being at, like, you know, a kind of entertainer in a sense. It's nice to do, you know, these guys don't need to do it. I think that's why Joe is so compelling as well because he could easily just be rich and famous and live his ball of life and not have conversations that really affect people and you know touch people in the sense of like you know even when he was talking towards the end of like the top one percenters and he's like wow yeah three hundred thousand dollars That's a lot of money.

Joe is probably making that since he was 20. That was the top 1% was 300,000. I thought he said 1.2 million. No. It was for, oh, that was an assets. I think a family was like 500,000 a year. An individual was like three something. There's a lot of numbers. I was Googling some stuff. There's different ranges. No, I think they were also talking about assets though. Once you include the assets, it was more like 1.2 million, which makes sense. If you're going to make 500K a year, even 300K, you're obviously going to have enough assets to hit that $1 million mark. Pretty quick, yeah.

Because no one that's making $500,000 a year, at least I wouldn't think, doesn't own a home of some sort. You think so? You would think so. Yeah. But yeah, that was interesting. I also really liked when they talked about the, like what Rich enjoys as a, he's not a comedian, he's a screenwriter, he's an artist, right?

I love that he loved the Simpsons, he loved the rest of the development. You know, I mean, dude, I grew up on the Simpsons, I don't know about you, I fucking watched the Simpsons every Sunday. My wife wasn't allowed to watch it. What? Yeah, dude. Why? To risk it. Because her parents thought it was to risk it, I guess. I don't know, the devil was in there. I'm not sure. A religious element. I think so. Yeah, reasonable. I guess. Either way, I grew up on the Simpsons

and the Simpsons are so good. So good. Well, think about it before South Park and family guy, there was nothing even close. They push the envelope in a lot of different directions. And isn't that like the longest running show ever or close to it? How many seasons have they had? They haven't so. Are they still going?

There's like 40 seasons, dude. Unbelievable. Like what? Thank God it's a cartoon because bought would be so old. If they have to change the characters, you know, just because like the voices change or like people died. What did you think about this whole universal charger thing?

I didn't realize that there wasn't, I guess, because I don't own a Tesla. And I- Because you don't care about the environment, Todd, is that what I'm hearing? Go fuck yourself. He's a big- Recycler.

Settle down. So this upsets him. Settle down. Nothing, this doesn't upset me at all. I just did not know that there wasn't a universal charger for electric cars I didn't realize it was this privatized thing where that Tesla has a different charger than a Ford. I didn't know that. Well, they It makes sense like Tesla paid for all of them. What are you gonna just open it up to everybody? No, I'm saying like so if you get a new

Ford for example Ford has a new lightning truck. I've heard about it. I want one It's fucking awesome. I want one because they're way cheaper than Teslas And I like trucks because I can put a camper on there and I like to camp okay Back to the camping thing. Uh-huh That being said the charger for the Ford is different from the Tesla. And Rich was talking about how the differences in these chargers and people living in apartments and getting pissed that there's not a charger outside, which that's total bullshit. Like, it's not the apartment's responsibility.

You know, the apartment owner's responsibility to have a Tesla charger outside. I get that. But having all these things privatized is a little fucking weird. It's like, well, you mean just for Tesla. Like you pull up to the Tesla charging station and you should be able to use a thing for your employees.

I'm saying, if we want these vehicles to be the next thing, which it seems like they're going to be, I know of one Tesla charging station in Bozeman. It's over by the Hilton Garden Inn. And I know that because it's near my house, and I drive by it every day, and I see the four little Tesla chargers. I've never seen another charger other than Tesla.

I think there's another one over by another restaurant by our house I think they have two chargers and also Tesla chargers I haven't seen any other charger and so if I buy a Ford where the fuck do I charge it do I have to have solar panels on my house and a battery battery pack is that Tesla's responsibility I'm not saying I'm not saying it is I and actually i think that elan wants to make it universal so all the charges are the same because elan's the fucking man they're i mean probably but it might be a part of his

strategy because like what's the incentive for other companies that are like coming up okay so basically what happened is Tesla through fighting tooth and nail to survive which is getting into the automotive industry is the hardest thing you could do now they're like one of the most profitable car companies in the world they are the they are the most yeah so while everyone is laughing at him and saying hey you're this idea sucks

You'll never make it now they're all jumping on board because they realize this is actually the best thing to do because he made all of his Technology Patenable no unpate yeah, he just released it online and now they build their vehicles and they want to jump on all his charging stations. It's like a little bit, I don't know about you, but I'd be like, hey, a little bit fuck you and make your own charging stations. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Yeah, that's because you love recycling. Nope, nope, nope.

If I believe Elon, and I think he's going to do this because he's already given away his patents for free. He's like Tesla, dude. He took his name from one of the most influential people when it comes down to energy and free power. Tesla's idea for everyone is free power for everyone, right? I agree. I think he's gonna go in that direction.

But that's Elon. That's why we love him. But hold on. If he's thinking to himself, ultimately, I want all vehicles to be electric, and I want massive charging station infrastructure, he can only do so much. He's the richest man in the world, but he can only do so much. But hold on. So therefore, if he says, right, you can't use mine or all of mine right away. It's going to force these companies to make up their own infrastructure around the country. And that's just, if you've got 20 companies doing it, then that's a bigger infrastructure.

Why should he have to build all of it? I'm not saying a lot. I'm not saying he should. What I'm saying, Adam, is that there should be a universal charger. You don't go to a different place for gas because you have a different fucking car. That's not how it works. Everybody uses the same gas. Yeah, but so then who builds it?

I don't know the answer to that. What I'm saying is if we want electric cars to move forward and to be a new thing, and that's the future, then we need a charging station. That's fine. This is a very ideological thought process, though. I'm not trying to be woke here. I'm just saying that take away the free market if we want electric cars to be the next thing, which Elon, excuse

me, obviously does want that. That's why he has given his patents away for free. Don't you think he would just be stoked with the idea that everyone's using his charger, whatever, maybe he takes a fucking 2% markup on every charger that's built and they're all the same. I don't know. It seems to me like that would Move this industry forward quicker. Not like oh fuck I got a Ford I got to go to a different gas station to charge up Yeah, but a hold on maybe Maybe that's true, right? But also maybe That if he's responsible for the entire infrastructure because he has

universal charges these companies don't bother to put any money towards their own charging stations it's too much to do for an own company i mean think about it no other car company in history had to build their own gas stations and that's what elan has to do and look that i mean this is the future right like this has to do. And look, I mean, this is the future, right? Like this has to get figured out because, you know, they were talking,

Rich was talking about this with Joe about the super charging stations, right? If 300 people are sitting there, like let's say you're on the toll to get over the fucking bridge in San Francisco, right? You're about to go over the, the, what's the bridge in San Francisco, right? You're about to go over the, what's the bridge in San Francisco? Go on gate. Go on gate, thank you. So you go over the go on gate. Let's say there's a charging station there, there's super chargers and all of a sudden

there's 300 cars. They referenced, you know, the same thing happens with Wi-Fi when everyone's using the Wi-Fi at the same time, it begins to be slower. Right. You can't charge as many things at the same time. That obviously needs to get figured out. It hasn't been figured out yet. It will get figured out, but right now it's a huge fucking problem. It takes three hours or whatever to charge your card.

It only goes 270 miles. That's not efficient. Well, they said about an hour. On a supercharger, if you're the only person there, yes. Oh, I gotcha. So if you're on a supercharger, it takes one hour to charge your vehicle, you get about 250 miles per charge. Right.

So in Montana, that doesn't really work. When I wanna go to Missoula, which is pretty much the biggest next city in Montana. It's fucking 300 miles away. It's 300 miles away. You're gonna run out. You're not even gonna make it there. So and I don't even know if there's a charging station from here to Missoula. If we're talking Montana, I'm not talking about big cities, obviously. So, yeah, I mean, it's an issue that needs to get solved. For sure. And it's definitely something to think about.

It's almost like you're putting it all on Elon. I don't want to be like, you know, a big fanboy for him, though, I'm a huge fan of him when it comes to billionaires. I mean, and it's in relation to billionaires, all right? So give me some credit. Like, I'm just thinking of all the billionaires I know and I don't know any, but like I've seen them online. I like them better than Bezos, that's for sure. Exactly, right?

So I mean, he's doing what I can. And I'm not, again, I'm not putting it on Elon Musk to create all of the chargers. What I'm saying is I believe, this is my own opinion, that if he's already giving out his, these free patents and already giving this information for free to people, why not just have everyone have the same charger?

Well, why don't the other companies make the same damn plug that's why that's exactly what i've found that's exactly what i'm saying you need a different charging port make them all the same dude what now we're agreeing you're seriously agreeing with what you were just saying you didn't agree to now you're agreeing with me thank you moving on yeah i guess i can't predict, but there's also the problem though,

that that kind of takes away their incentive of making their own charging ports, because they can use all of his. Yeah, I mean, I don't know the type of money that's being transferred. I don't know how much it costs to charge something. I mean, I know like, I heard it's cheap. It's way cheap in the gas. You know, like, okay, obviously if you have solar panels on your home, like the future to me is solar panels on your home, you've got the fucking Tesla charger in your garage and you're charging your vehicle at night. Most people aren't driving more than 250 miles a day.

Probably not. Hopefully, most probably not. So you're good. If you want to go on a long road trip that's where it becomes an issue trying to charge things, whatever, but that's going to change. Now whether that's a Tesla battery or I don't know how easy it would be to hook up because I haven't seen them yet But like a Ford charging station to your solar panels on your house. That is the future

Yeah, we're not going to be using gas like my son is not gonna be using gas for his fucking car It's just think that the solar panels on a house could judge a car. They do They do yeah, yeah, absolutely that seems like so those people are getting free power And it's actually going back into the grid. But that seems like a lot of power for a car. It's like more than a washer machine, right? I don't know the dynamics in the kilowatts that it takes to charge a car.

I'm not sure. I do know that in the state of Montana, they have like a pretty cool system where you buy a one-for-one system. I know this because a good friend of mine owns a solar company here in Montana. He puts solar panels on people's homes. His name's shout out. Brad VanWert, Harvest Solar, what up? Love that. He was just telling me yesterday, he was on the podcast with me yesterday with a different podcast.

And he was saying that in Montana, we have a monopoly with our energy, right? So Northwestern energy owns all of the fucking power in this state. They are who we pay. If you live in Montana, you pay Northwestern energy. Now, if you have solar panels on your home, there's a one for one. So you could you could be charging your house all day long while it's sunny. It obviously has to be sunny to get that power, right? Because it's solar. What's sunny here? Lots of that's good. Right. So Montana is like a viable state to do this in,

right? And that, you know, maybe the in the Midwest, it wouldn't be as viable because it's not as sunny. It's fucking cloudy all the time. But what he was saying was, if you're, let's say you go to Alaska for a week and all of a sudden, your home is creating all this energy. Well, you can take that energy that's not being used, right? Like, yeah, your refrigerators aren't running whatever that uses X amount of kilowatts, but you're not in your home using lights, you're not using the computers, you're basically saving power because you're not there using it. You can actually roll your meter backwards and you're putting power back into the grid for free and they give you a credit.

No shit. Yep. It's fucking sweet. That's cool. And it's one to one. Let's get some solar panels. I mean, I'm actually kind of pissed. I've already been in my house for five years and I thought about it because there's a credit

with the government right now and actually George W. Bush started this, believe it or not, back in the fricking late 90s, you get a 30% credit for putting solar panels on your house. So the government will pay 30% of that bill. No, shit. And if, like, so you haven't done it because you don't care about the environment, oh, what's going on here? Again, fuck you.

That's not true. I haven't done it because it costs, it would, it would have cost me like $15,000 to put solar panels on my home and I just didn't have the money. But I'm pissed that I didn't do it five years ago when we bought our house because it takes about, he was saying that it takes about 10 years to pay off and then all of a sudden your power's free. Nice. So then you can leave the lights on all day

and not feel bad. Because not true, because if you want money back, you have to not be using power because that's how you get your percentages back. I don't know. But it's cool, man. Like it's cool the way it works. The problem is that these grid systems

that we have are archaic. They're based on coal power. they're based on hydroelectric, mostly coal, at least in Montana, most of the power and natural gas, right? But like, it doesn't matter how much you're getting from the sun. If only 1% of the population is doing it. Like let's say there's a million people in Montana, there's only 1% of the population in Montana that has solar panels on their house. What is that?

10,000 people? Yeah, barely. It's fucking nothing. The problem is, is that the grid system that we have is all based on, it's all money based. So it's like we're paying these, we're paying for these commodities, and it's going to one company. And again, this is just for the state of Montana. I know this because my friend does this for a living.

It's a problem because let's say even 10% of people started having solar panels on their home do you know how much money that that corporation is now losing as a company they're not they don't fucking want that do that's the problem it makes sense it's complicated issue with uh... with the electric car thing in the whole grid and and also solar panels i mean

we've had a long time solar panels have been around since what like 6070s. The fact that they haven't really that they're not on everything does make me think that there's like a sneaky feeling for this. Well, it has I mean, I think it has to do with money but how about have you have you heard of this thing and I get I'm getting on a bit of a tangent here because it interests me. But having solar panels on windows in the city. I've heard about that. They can do like a whole skyscraper out of solar. Dude, they've told about roads. That's fucking huge. No, but they've talked about roads that they can make that that like do that. That would be wild.

But again. Or mean up the road when it's winter time. Yeah. Right. It makes you think. Thanks for having your phone on Todd. You're a professional podcast and that's embarrassing. All right.

Computer-less-only would come into an end. Hey. Well, I really need a P. So on that note, I don't know what to say. Who is your favorite today? Who was your favorite today? Well, I love Theo, but the most interesting one was probably Bennoi, Richie. Really? I thought Francis, I like Francis fans. Those guys were great. I really did enjoy those. You know, it was long, super long. Two or long, four hours and 20 minutes. You know, and it wasn't that it like wore me out,

but they kind of like fanboyed out on Rogan at the end, a little bit, which is reasonable. You know, so many people now, I mean, he's a decade into this, you know, people, especially people in the podcast world, they've been listening to him forever. So you get on his show, you want to talk about things that you know he's talked about and liked

and other guests that they've had on. But I don't know, maybe it's like the downside of doing this all the time every week is like, yeah, I've heard it, you know, so a little bit of that. But they had an interesting perspective. I mean, obviously I was interested because it was about things going on in England, which I'm not aware of as much as I maybe would like to be or just curious about. I mean, I just don't hear about it.

So that was pretty fascinating. But I love the future of technology. Like that to me is really important. And in a sense, having Rich on talking about like what they're doing with Tesla, I feel like at first, Tesla were frustrated with him because he was just changing cars. I mean, he made a V8, which is super ironic, in a sense.

It's like, wait, what? We made these electric cars and he makes a lighter version that runs on a giant engine. I mean, there's some fun in that. Oh, it's great. It's just, he's innovating a product that's already bad at it. But also, I think just like any competition, which is healthy, he's forcing them to adjust the way that they do things, because it's like, hey, I can fix these cars too.

Other people can, maybe Tesla doesn't need to be the only people that do it, and therefore they're gonna up that game when it comes to having more parts available and making these things more you know, more accessible. And probably at first they think that, they're gonna lose money because of this, because they don't have like a bit of a monopoly on it,

which is smart business. That's how you become the richest man in the world, but at the same time, it also gets you to like, innovate a little bit more. Yeah. Well, and you pointed that out, I know this is getting a little long, but you did point out he was talking about

putting a Silverado, like Silverado parts into the Tesla, right? Wasn't he talking about that? Because you can get them at the AutoZone, whereas like Tesla parts, you have to wait and wait and wait and wait to get if something gets screwed up in your vehicle. I mean, it would make sense that in time,

you can fix your Tesla, like you can fix any vehicle. Yeah. You know, instead of buying a new one. But on that note, thank you so much guys for listening. As always, and thank you, Todd. All right, cheers y'all. Thank you. See you guys next week.

Cheers. Cheers y'all. Thank you guys next week. Cheers