Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 292 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Roger Waters Et al.

Episode Date: October 13, 2022

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You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast. We find little nuggets treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast and pass them on to you. Perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn. He did the worst podcast with the best one. One, go. Draw the show. Hey guys, and welcome to the JRER podcast.

What a great week. What did you think about this week Adam? I thought it was amazing. Dude, come on. I mean, Jan, Janie. Uh-huh. Mr. Jan Werner, I thought it was amazing. Dude, come on. I mean, Jan, Janie, Mr. Jan Werner, I thought it was Jan. It's definitely not, it's Jan. It's Jan. Mr. Roger Waters, I mean, come on.

Pink Floyd is one of my top five favorite bands. That was for sure. That was very exciting. And then just legendary sober October, probably one of the best ones yet. I mean, Bert was on fire, yeah. So I thought it was a great week. It was a fun, exciting, important week.

For sure. For sure. I was stoked to listen to all of them. Let's open up with how Rogan talked about the FBI made a statement. I think he did this on two beds, one cave. He was talking to Tom about it. And he goes, the FBI made a statement about Zuckerberg's comments on Rogan.

And bear in mind, the FBI barely do, you know, statements like this. So why are they getting involved? Come on. Because there's 12 million people listening to his podcast and they don't want the perception of what's happening with the FBI to be, you know, skewed. I guess. It's called they're scared of people knowing the truth.

Ooh, the truth comes out on Rogan. Right. Right, I mean, big. I don't think Zuckerberg was lying about those things. That's probably why they got involved. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think so. He took a lot of criticism for the, you know, anyway, let's jump over to Jan. Sorry.

Jan, love it. Jan, Werner, what a legend. I had no idea. Did you know he was such good friends with Hunter S? I mean, if he ran Rolling Stone, he had to be. Yeah, right. I mean, it makes sense, I guess, now that I think about it, I guess who else would put up with Hunter S's behavior?

I guess I didn't know, you know, there's one thing to be a friend of someone's in an acquaintance, and like, they write for for you and they're the only ones that will publish your stuff, but I mean, they were homies. Like, they were, they were tight. That's, that's, I mean, he lived with him, he lived with, y'all in his wife sounds like for a while. A legendary magazine, you know, it's changed a lot recently. I think a lot of people are aware of this, almost like Vice, you know, it's changed a lot recently. I think a lot of people are aware of this almost like vice

You know, it started off really fringe and fun and then it just got a bit kind of I don't know watered down Yeah, that'll happen, but still a huge contribution to the zeitgeist I mean look it the the beauty of Rolling Stone was they were talking about things that no one else was talking about. You don't see these things in Life Magazine.

I mean, what else was there in the 60s? Life Magazine was probably the biggest life and time. Time. Yeah, that's it. There was no talk of of music magazines and If you think about the history of rock and roll that's when it began was was with Rolling Stone I think it was like coinciding with that publication Yeah, do you know the guy is worth like 700 million as well?

According to Johnny. Yeah, it makes sense the What is that dumb website? that's like celebrity net worth? I mean, it's probably not right, but he's worth big money and he clearly doesn't care if the if guys like him are getting tax 30 40 50% either so you got it you got to you got to appreciate that guy. He's not a greedy son of a bitch. Yeah Yeah, he seemed pretty genuine for sure I didn't't, you know, the one thing that I just have in my notes here that I want to bring up in 1972 was the first year 18 year olds could vote. I did not know that. That's insane. Is that what was it before a 21 must have been? I didn't mention that. They just he just he just mentioned

that in 1972 was the first year 18 year olds could vote. And that was such a huge thing for Rolling Stone. I'm sure because they, it is a pretty political magazine. It is much as they probably wanted to talk about music. There was a lot of politics happening. Sure. I probably the only reason they allowed it, the people that would push against that, is because you know, younger people are often more liberal, but also they're young people. So they're too lazy to vote. Yeah, it's an issue. Still, it's unfortunate really. But that's probably old enough to have an opinion, I think. Makes sense. Yeah, man. I mean, look, it's old enough to not be caught up in

greed and have enough so much money that you're going to vote red every time no matter what because you're loaded. No, down. No, down. It's the only thing keeping this world balanced is the young kids with no money. I wish they had talked more about Hunter. You know, there were some great stories, but I wanted some like behind the scenes stuff. You know, they talk about the Ibergain story that he made up that was just hilarious every time. And then most of it was kind of just sad, like the struggle, and being despondent, and not connecting,

and not being able to get his hands on coke and freaking out with the snow storm. And that was a good one. There was a snow storm. And asked him, he couldn't, he couldn't leave. Right. Kind of ironic, there's a snow storm, but he couldn't get any snow. What did he want to change the name of the town to bot town? No, a pig. Was it? It wasn't what it was. Bot town or like, something pigs or yeah. Anyways, he changed the name of the town. Yeah, I mean, he was, he was close to winning that election as for Sheriff. That's crazy.

He was close. Yeah. He didn't want people moving there, I guess. So it's kind of like the Boseman situation. Yeah, well, yeah. Asked we got a change. Boseman's named the butt town. Yeah, we should.

We should. I liked, I think they went on and on about Hunter for, you know, enough time and talked about the fear and loathing and Elko story, which I did not know about. Obviously, everybody knows about fear and loathing in Las Vegas and him being on the campaign trail for McGovern. If you know McGovern, he was a great man. I wish he would have became president,

but of course we got Nixon's dumbass instead. And I wasn't even alive then, but you look back on Nixon's presidents. He isn't, he won of two presidents that had to resign. Yeah. So yeah, properly impeached. Dush, not to mention the war on drugs, and we could go on and on how many water gate.

I mean, that he was a horrible president. And my govern was a good guy. And I think Hunter knew that I was surprised to hear, especially because Rogan is such a Hunter fan that he didn't even know about him until that until fear and loathing came out. Rogan didn't? That's what he said. Really?

Yeah. I mean, when the story came out in Rolling Stone, which was in the 90s, but still, that's the 90s. I feel like I knew. When did they make fear and loathing the end of the 90s? It wasn't too late. It was like mid to late. I think it was late 90s.

I remember being in high school and watching that film. So it was definitely mid to late 90s, but he wrote that story in Rolling Stone. That's where it first came out. It was an excerpt from that. It was fear and loathing on the campaign trail. Well, they turned it into fear and loathing in Las Vegas. You know there was a Bill Murray movie they did?

That was the early one. Yeah, Buffalo, something to do. Where the Buffalo Rome. Oh, that's one. Yeah, Buffalo. Something where the Buffalo Rome. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Sorry. I was thinking of Murray does a great job with impersonating him too. But I truly think that I think that Johnny Depp did a played a better part. Well it was a more interesting movie because that shit was wild. Yeah. It sounds like Yon's book is coming out or maybe it's already out like a Rolling Stone. Mm-hmm. Talked about that. I'd love to read that. Yeah. Yeah, I liked how,

you know, they brought up how nuclear is part of the solution. I mean, obviously Yon is extremely scared about the situation of our planet and the environment too much carbon. He definitely went on one about that. He talked a lot about billionaires and kind of billionaires controlling the country. The one thing that surprised me was how much he kind of had Biden's back.

Did you notice that? It's a little bit. Yeah, it seemed pretty, I mean, he's, it's definitely an example of someone that's been, you know, drinking the cool aid of a particular party. And that's hard to listen to either side. I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat

when it's just like one side is all wrong and the, and you know, he's making a lot of excuses for what's happening now. And that kind of frustrates me. Yeah, it was frustrating for him to say that, you know, I don't trust unvetted sources. Like the Hunter Biden thing wasn't true or something. That bugged me because it's like, y'all, you should know better. You should know better. Did you see the video about the laptop? I mean,

but it might explain some of what's happening to the magazine now. Maybe, maybe. It's, I mean, does he even run the magazine anymore? He didn't talk about the magazine now. They pretty much just were, you know, talking about, you know, Hunter and older issues of the magazine. I don't know if he still does actually probably should have looked that up Needed Jamie. I think my the favorite thing Well one of my favorite things and I've heard this quote before but I I started don't let perfect be the enemy of good

I don't know who did that quote. Was it a was that a Jefferson quote or is that a Thomas Jefferson? I feel like it's one of our four fathers who said that, but it doesn't matter who said it. It's a brilliant quote. And I appreciated Jan saying, look, we're not going to get perfect, but we can do better. you know, pick the, it's kind of like pick the, the out of the two evils, pick the better evil kind of thing, right? Yeah, it's just difficult to hear when people start saying things like, well, you know what we need to do? We got to take the money out of politics

and we got to do this out of this and we got to, it's almost like you're basically saying these impossible things that are never going to happen need to happen before we can move forward. And that's not a very good way of making a solution for anything. So I don't know, just me personally, I start the discount on someone's idea when they just throw that out there. True. But a little bit. But you could tell he's a good-hearted person, right? He means well.

And I think what he was trying to say is that we've all been taught this American dream. And it's almost like we've forgotten what's important in America, which is helping your neighbor. If you're only trying to enhance this ride for yourself and not for others, then it's a problem. That seems to be what's happening now. It's like we have this wealth gap that's insane. It's never been this way. Maybe in the depression it was, but even the numbers are so skewed now to the very,

very u Uber wealthy. Mm-hmm. And you know, you got people like Joe Rogan who's making millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars a year who's still not even close in comparison to the billionaires, you know. Yeah. It's like, Joe looks like a peasant

compared to these people running our country. No doubt. I'm sure Elon Musk can spend in a day, Joe's not worth any one even notice. So there is that. It definitely is that. But it also along the lines of like at the end he was talking about how he thinks the government should regulate the internet. Oh, really? I do not have that in my notes. Oh, he was saying that. Yeah, and he was and Rogan was like, well, wait a minute who know what absolutely but it but it kind of lines up with some of the things that he was saying otherwise

what's like trust our government too much still assuming that it's uh... democrat government elected which is it's dangerous on both ends absolutely absolutely and if they control the internet like that's the freest space that exists for good or bad. Well, they're already, I mean, let's bring Zuckerberg back into the conversation. They're already trying to, and look where that's gotten us. They're already trying to control it. They're already trying to tell the biggest, you know, Facebook.com, the biggest social network platform in the history of the world.

Yeah, if the FBI girl. The FBI is already trying to talk to him out of posting things. So they're already trying it. And that's not good. We all know that that's horrible. Yeah. I guess the government just likes to police everything if they can.

As long as they're making that $90, baby. Yeah. They're not policing shit if they're not making money off of it. It's true But you know those are wacky ideas because it doesn't make it doesn't even line up with how he believes Imagine if back in the day when he started this magazine I'm sure there was a lot of pressure for him not to write about certain things post certain things and he needed Freedom of press. Absolutely. Yeah, it goes against his ideals.

It doesn't make sense. It's almost like he's moved so far away from something now that I don't know. He wants to spike everybody's water with LSD, so. That was a crazy idea. Joe was like, maybe not. Maybe we should, they don't choose. maybe not maybe we should they don't choose Yeah, maybe we should let the people decide if they want to take it exactly

You got to choose to drink the cool aid you see you back on us he backed out of it to oh yeah Yeah, you're right. You're right. We don't want to involuntarily involuntarily give it to that But that's what I mean It's like it's a poorly thought idea I hate hate to say it, but it's like whoa easy tiger Yeah, what did you think of the difference between the Michael Jackson and John Lantern interaction? It's like John really opened up I'm going to him him interviewing both of them. Yeah John really opened up and like explained about the frustrations of fame And that he just was a normal guy and just wanted peace and had these

other ideas and he wasn't this just this beetle phenomenon that existed. But also he was more. But then there was Michael that he was kind of like sure you couldn't get more out of. And Joe wasn't buying that. Joe was like, you know what, if I go in front of this guy, I think I could make more happen. I mean, he said that about Obama as well, which he kind of skirted the question, because he also, Yann also interviewed Obama. Multiple times.

And I, he had some good points. It's hard to get, sometimes in interviews. It's hard to get the real questions out without pissing people off. I mean, you know Egotistical Ego gets in the way of a lot of people who are famous, right? Or it's Michael or John. I think John it's hard to compare the two because John Lennon is so different than Michael Jackson. I don't care. They're both uber famous.

I get that. But Michael, I mean, come on, the guy dealt with so much trauma. I mean, he is a messed up individual. I mean, I, we don't even have to go into the pedophilia, but it's like, it's so much different in my mind. But it was so fucking, at least John got to live into kind of early adulthood as, you know, a normal working class guy from Liverpool, whereas Michael, how young was he when he stands? That's kind of what I'm saying. They're not tiny. You can't even compare the two.

Michael Jackson was famous by the time he even understood what fame was. Right. The kid was what, 10, eight years old, singing with his brothers, and he was the most famous one in the band from the start. Yeah, wild. John Arty, like you said, he lived, came from a working class family in Liverpool. He was already a grown-ass man really, before he got famous. I guess it makes sense though, you know.

It's just like, and to be honest, if he can't get an interview out of somebody, maybe nobody could. Because that really aren't that many. I think Oprah probably got the most compelling Jackson. Out of Michael. Yeah. Yeah, Oprah's good. Oprah's, Oprah's, yeah, she's good at interviews,

for sure, no doubt. And I think that might have something to do with just her personality as a, you might open up to a woman more than a man. At least, I think you might, at least Michael might, I don't know. Yeah. Maybe they're both African-American as well, like they could relate in different ways. And Oprah's just just whatever you think of her, she was excellent at doing what she did. There's a reason she's.

I think Oprah's great. Yeah. Yeah. Who's saying anything bad about Oprah? I don't know. I don't watch that shit. Maybe it's just me. I'm like, I never really watched anything she did. But I know that she's good at what she does because she's a power. She had her own TV network, I think. Like for sure. Yeah. All right, let's jump over to good old Roger Waters. Oh, Raj. Have you ever seen Floyd or Roger Waters? Not live. I saw who they are. Yeah, there's legends. I saw Roger, you know, he split up from his band in the, I want to say 90s. I think was their last tour, maybe even late 80s, but anyway, he came to Michigan when I was growing up when I was in high school and I went to

see him and they played, he played the entire wall album and I was absolutely blown away. I think that's why they're in my top five favorite bands after seeing that live at a young age. I mean, I was 16, maybe 17, you know. So I've always loved their music. I'm powerful stuff, dude. Actually, it's so different than really anything else. Yeah, I mean, it's psychedelic for sure. I mean, I think it's one of those bands kind of like the dead where you don't really get to experience it unless you're high on acid at a shell. He didn't really talk about, but they didn't get into it.

No, he kind of went a different way. It was very political. I did not know that Roger was such a political dude. I mean, I guess I should know better because of who he is, right? He's very, he's just a political guy and he's a smart motherfucker. Yeah, and, and, you know, being cold, you know,

anti-Jewish and... Anti-Semitic, yeah. And a bunch of other type of like maybe even slightly pro-russian. He's just pro-peace. If that's it, and I think that comes as at a cost or pro-no suppression of anyone. Which is very ideological when you look into all these different conflicts, it's obviously not as easy as that, but he's just basically saying, look, every human is a person that has rights and shouldn't be suppressed and regardless of who they are,

and that's obviously going to make a lot of controversy. It just will. Yeah. But he stands by it and takes a bunch of shit for it. I just love how he has never gone against his ideals and his ideologies. I mean, like you just were mentioning. I mean, the guy is pro-piece. He always has been, he has always, he's written about it in his songs. I mean, the final cut is one of my absolute favorite albums. And it was his last album before he left Pink Floyd. And I believe that was like I said, late 80s, early 90s. I had a tape of it, but it's all about war. I mean, that whole album is a story about World War I and bombs and...

Not a shit. Oh yeah, it's an amazing... That's the final cut. And he wrote the whole thing. I mean, he also wrote the entire album, the wall. I mean, one of the most famous Pink Floyd albums. Not to discredit Roger Gilmore, who is also incredible. But they're two...

They write in completely different ways. But they were saying he was the brains. He was scary, I think, for Roger to take over after that guy kind of lost it. Yes, said, said Baron. He kind of, I don't know, was like airing on the side of it, wasn't drugs. It wasn't the acid.

It was just like who he was or like how he was gonna be when he just left the band and couldn't write anymore. It seemed like he was not ready for fame and maybe was a schizophrenic. I think he was just going crazy. I mean, like you said, Roger didn't blame it on the acid even though They were doing plenty of that in the late 60s. He was like no, he was already he was already going somewhere else Right, you know, it I mean maybe it pushed him over the edge right but if you're already struggling

Right, I think they you know, that's not like a thing that you know, that's not like a thing that, that's a thing that's known. With weed, it is. With weed it is. With weed it is. Is it with that with LSD as well? You're not a big, right? If you're, I don't know.

If you're continuing on the edge of sanity and you do some LSD, that's probably not gonna be the safe move. It's true. I've seen it happen with friends. And it's not like the other band members were taken any less drugs than Sid. You know, it was just he was pre-destined to like have something go the like a screw come loose. That's probably why Roger says it this way because he's

like bro, we did the same amount of drugs. You didn't mention that, but we should have seen. Yeah. Yeah. He just like this is probably what's happening. If you and I are in the same amount of drugs. I didn't mention that, but we should assume. Yeah. He's just like, this is probably what's happening. If you and I are in the same room, and there's a barrel of whatever, we're all going to, we're going to be doing the same amount. I mean, come on. Yeah. And if you go completely nuts from it, I'll be like, yeah, I was already in Todd.

I was, I was, I was blown away by the fact that he talked about, he's only interested in songwriters. He was talking about Neil Young and Dylan. He's like, oh, those are the only kind of bands that I was really, or the artist that I was into. That just blew me away. Like how are those your only two, you know, inspirational figures in the music scene? I mean, he said he doesn't really like rock and roll.

He didn't really follow along with that. He liked I mean, he said he doesn't really like rock and roll. He didn't really follow along with he like classical music. He said that makes sense. Yeah. Oh, and there was one song he brought up and they played God bless the child Billy holiday. You are that's an incredible song. It is a great to great song about. So it was about, you know, God bless the child that has his own or something, right? Like made his own life, whether financial or just sorted it out without protection from parents and the rest of it. And there is something cool and special about it. It's a real old style song, though. Oh, I mean, Billy Harday's voice is so legendary. What about I have this started. He was talking about some of the best lyrics from the song Echoes which is one of the best Pink Floyd songs but it's strangers strange. It's very like monotone

and chill, but he said that those lyrics define him. He actually said that. Wow. And that explains all of this equal, you know, we're all the same. We're all on this planet together. Yeah. He's very anti-war. He's very pro-peace. He's very anti-nuclear. And he is adamant about nuclear war. Nuclear war bombs. Right. Atomic bombs. I just, I didn't realize how, I mean, plenty of people talk about pro-peace, but he is living it. I mean, he's writing letters to government officials and still doing it. Fucking guy's 78 years old, still writing letters to government officials and still doing it. Fucking guy's 78 years old, still writing letters to Putin. Amazing.

I wonder if it's crazy. If like, when you're that famous and you have been that long and also so iconic, like he talked about his lyrics and he's like, well, to me, I meant this, but other people listen to mean something else. It's very personal and it's just powerful. And there's like this hypnotic state kind kind of the big bands can create with audiences. I wonder if to him he realizes that, you know, his voice, all the power of his lyrics have so much impact on people that it, to him, it's not weird to like write a letter

to Putin. He's like, yeah, people listen to what I say. So I have to be very careful about how I say things. And I have to, or I want to have an important message. And he just boils it down to peace, love, treat everyone good, you know. And also, he is the opposite of anti-Semitic. And that's the problem, right, with our government also he is the opposite of anti-Semitic.

And that's the problem, right, with our government and the way things are run. Israel is this very small country, yet it has so much power because the United States backs them and they're killing Palestinians all day. And Rodgers like, what the fuck? Why is nobody talking about this? Right. It's a huge problem.

Yeah. And no one's talking about it. But they fight against each other, you know, and they just, you know, Israel has a lot more power than a lot of the Palestinians. So it's, it's like oppressive in that direction. But since they war each other, if it was the other way around, it would probably be as ugly the other way. Yeah, it's shit. around it would probably be as ugly the other way. Yeah, it's just, I mean, the guy is, he's so passionate about not only his music, but his writing, obviously his writing is his music. But to hear him talk about how he was still changing up, he would watch, remember this part where he would, he would do a show. And then he goes back to the hotel and watches the show by himself and takes notes on how he can make it better.

I mean, that's cool. Holy shit. Yeah. Or that near the end there, he was talking about, it was like some kids in Oakland that had like, that came from a bad home and they went out to one of his shows. Right. He started crying, dude. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. He was talking about how, you know,

none of these children have two parents, one's either a junkier in prison, and they went out to one of his shows recently. And when he talked about that, he literally started crying to Joe about it, about how much these kids, it was like the first time that they, the first thing that they had ever done

that they were proud of. You don't wanna like them in their life. It seemed like a really kind of reflectively eye-opening moment because all he thought about was the show at first. And he's like, these kids are kind of annoying. They're not really doing what I need them to do. And they're barely showing up. And then afterwards he realizes, oh, it's because

they haven't had, you know, guidance and structure and good mentors. And they're not as lucky as a lot of the other kids. Yet it meant the world to them. And I guarantee that changed the way that he moved forward just probably in the world when it came to interacting with people. He's like, instead of just being like, oh yeah, quick judgment that person's annoying. He's like, wait a minute, what's this person's background? And maybe getting to meet him is a big deal for them and is something that

they can be really proud of. It was cool. That was emotional. That was the most emotional spot on all three of these podcasts. All right, let's talk about the biggest bit of bullshit in this podcast. For a show. How's the one you're talking about? No, dude.

I was about to keep saying that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It links up, we do it in the studio, sometimes this week it'll be fun. And maybe we have some pharmaceutical help with that one too. Well see, it's kind of like the telephone game it reminds me because when I, when we did this in seventh or eighth grade is when I got into Pink Floyd, we used Allison Wonderland. Same fucking album, Allison Wonderland. I never tried it with Wizard of Oz Oz so I'm excited to check it out I will also do it with Alice in Wonderland with you see which one's better if it isn't even I bet you $500 that it doesn't even link up at all I've never heard this and that is nonsense Well, we're gonna have to find a a Reddit feed. We'll figure it out right.

Reddit. It's always Reddit. But, but here's the thing. He played it off so quickly that it almost, it was, I mean, it was cute. I don't think he's being deceptive at all. No, no, no. He's not a deceptive person. No, he even knows something that he just thinks is fun and they all want to keep let the whole band just

Says look we agreed to never say anything, but we linked this up or it really is random But it just was dismissed so fast. Yeah, because he wasn't even excited about it It wasn't like you know, it was great that it lined up like that. That was so fun He was just like nah, that's nonsense. It, he was almost pissed that it even got brought up. Yeah, it's like, oh, glad we cleared that one up, Joe. He's like, glad we got that out of the way, dude. Dude, that, that thing links up so hard that it is nuts. I think it's coincidence, but I'll have to figure it out.

Cause I thought it linked up really well with Alice and Wonderland and apparently that wasn't even the fucking thing you're supposed to do. Two notes. Yeah, but what a ledge. A legend. So glad he was on what a wedge. Yeah, what about us? I can't believe he came on. I so I need to look at his tour dates because it sounds like these tours that he's doing are a little bit different than what they've been in the past. It's more poetic. Yeah, do Joe Ari and Tony went to dinner with did Bert not go? No, but and Tom had to go out of town, but they went to dinner with him after the consa, I think. So how dope is that?

Maybe before it's probably before. I wonder who I wonder if Joe probably sandbagged him in pool. Oh, to like not thrash him. Remember at the end, he's like, it's your break. Let's go. Who knows? Who knows? All right, let's jump over to Frickin's sober October. Come on.

Good job, guys. Bert. Bert. Dude, Bert was on one. Took the frickin' thing. He basically did the podcast. He did the whole thing. I don't think Ari and Tom said much of it.

And Tom basically said nothing, the whole podcast. So, Giro was in the background the whole time. You know what it was, and Bert brought it up at the end. He was like, Tom needs to leave. Like, I think Tom was late and like a bit worried about- He was in, he was just checked out. Yeah. He was like, I gotta go.

He was chomping. He was chomping to get out of there. Mm-hmm. Uh, it's, but it was just on one as always. Oh man, ridiculous. And the shit that they all give birth, there is nobody I've ever seen that humbly takes that as well as both does.

He seems like a really humble person. Especially with some of the honesty that he talks about, like being terrible at sex or like, right. He just owns it. He's like, yeah, this happened and this was this story. I'm like, dude, he even prefaces the story with, yeah, people have told me never to mention this ever, but I'm going to so he just does it on the biggest media platform ever created Well, but then realizes that they've already mentioned it in the past so it's not even a big deal

Yeah, like not being able to swim is that we were talking about somebody not being able to swim. Oh, yeah, that's Sebastian the comedian. Yeah, that was a hell of a call out for him. I guarantee this guy's going to learn how to swim after that. I just, he's a maniac. I mean, how they talked about his blood work being great and, you know, just somehow the guy can drink like a fish all day every day and still just have amazing blood work and nothing wrong. Like he literally, the doctor thought he was lying to him. It doesn't make sense.

The doctor's like, Bert, there's no way you drink every night. What are you talking about? No, I don't understand. He has no clogs in his arteries. He must have like some sort of super liver. And they was saying if he so but up, he'd be great at sports. You know, he's just like a natural athlete and like good at these things.

I mean, when Joe brings up how delusional he is, it's just because Joe has spent most of his life trying to figure out the truth, right? What is real? And people blowing smoke and saying, outland his bullshit, it's like it frustrates the fuck out of Joe. For sure. It's like, oh, I could do that.

I could be Bruce Lee in a fucking show as like, fuck off, could you? So I think, but is the anticipate of this? Like, he's just that thing that Joe is like, no. When you talk nonsense to me, I can't stand it yet. Sometimes he pulls it off He loves it. I mean the guy just ran a marathon Just ran a marathon off the couch. Yeah, my the favorite favorite thing that Bert said on the entire Three and a half hour podcast they did or three three 20

the our podcast they did are 3, 3, 20, the, uh, when he went all of her stone was at a party and Bert, Bert goes, he so did not feel my energy. He's like, he's like going off, telling all of her stone that the Godfather was a fucking brilliant movie. Amazing. Even though obviously that was, uh, Francis, Francis Ford Coppola did that movie. Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't Oliver. Yeah, that's Nicholas Cage's uncle. Did you know that?

I didn't know that. But either way, the wrong guy. That's why Nicholas got so famous, eh? Wasn't from his acting. No, supposedly I think he changed his name to not take that credit. Oh, good for him. But who knows, good for him.

Still dead. But that's the thing, like, but now is very famous. So he can like leverage those interactions. But he's kind of been around this world for a long time. So when he wasn't known, he was still the same guy. And this is why these guys love him because he's so genuine, even though he's, you know, embarrasses the fuck out of himself.

He loves to. He just like gets in there, says what he wants, and I just think it's brilliant how here bring up the most, you know, kind of self-deprecating stories that you can even imagine. And he doesn't care. He's just like, oh, I did this, and then I did that and then I put my pants. Yeah, it's like I I really appreciated him talking about is is it is

Does he have a teenager a girl? Yeah, right. How is a few kids but a teenage girl? This teenage girl came to one of their shows and this woke, you know supposedly woke these woke teenagers these days and Bert kept looking over at her being like, is she laughing? Is she laughing? And then finally she starts smirking me, like, sorry, Dan, he goes, honey, this is your supposed laugh. Boy, you know who they were watching, right? You're supposed to laugh. Was it Chappelle? No, Shane Gillis. Oh, that's right. The Gillian special.

Yeah. So the do the drinks all the b is the yeah save our park of course and yeah, I mean Shayna's Pro Trump and a Republican and But who know he's not like massively politically active. He just like is kind of into it so It's the type of comedy that Somebody that is quote unquote woke could say, hey, I'm not going to like this. The beautiful thing is though, Shane is so genuine and so funny.

And just brilliant. I mean, his skits are unbelievable. That it just breaks right through there. And that's what comedy is. It doesn't matter who we are, how different we are, whatever. If it's funny and really funny, it just lands, dude. It lands. Yeah, it's just nice to see all these guys, and they talk about it a lot, but all these guys in the room together, they're still helping each other,

they're on each other's podcast. It's just cool. They're in their all-crushin' and they're all helping each other out. There's none of this I'm better than you mentality at all. Joe talked about it, right? And he always does It's none of this famine mentality stuff, but they all do it not just Joe Like I feel like he's helping them figure like talk about it more. Yeah, I think he was a big influence in it realistically

I think that he was a big voice, but you know He probably learned from somebody as well. So it just goes down and he brought it into the water comedy. What I liked is when they talked about Shorts, and when Shorts got to the comedy store, I was like, you know what guys? This is really fun, and everyone's supportive,

and he's kind of taking that energy back to New York, that was From what I've heard a traditionally more famine mentality. It's like I'm against you I get the show we're all working for like an SNL spot or a TV show. Hey guys After 15 years of fine print contracts and getting to right that's that's a primarily East Coast thing But a lot I think that that was comedy Right. That's a primarily East Coast thing. But a whole lot, I think that that was comedy thing all over. Back in the... It just kind of after maybe like the 2010s of the comedy store, and especially when

Joe got back to the store, that's when it really started to be like a cooperative. Everyone's coming on. Everyone's podcast energy, and that just is starting to spread and you know the Rogan's They're gonna do that in Austin. Yeah, absolutely absolutely and I hope they do the cave that cave theater in Tennessee Remember they were pulling up pictures that looks sick. How good was that remember when Joe was like who's that on stage and Ari's like I think at your mom. He's like oh god my mom Those guys is great. I can't believe they're giving shit for Ari having a bad suit game.

It's like, Ari's looking good. He's always wearing nice suits. Joe was giving him shit about their suit game. Yeah, he said he had good suits. It's he gets them from like Thailand or whatever. They're such, they're such old rich white guys though. I mean, come on, they're talking about their watches for like 20 minutes and then the suit.

Yeah, but hold on. It's just funny. It's funny. I know you're a watch guy, so you're gonna defend this. No, no. I'm not doing it. Look, I think it is slightly unreasonable to spend a lot of money on a watch.

10 G's, yeah. Well, but also when it's like, they have really worked through. I mean, I already used to be on the door at the comedy store. I know. They pay you like 10 bucks an hour to do that back then. I get it. They did you hear them doing gigs for like $150? Yeah, but then they did a gig for Tony Robbins and somebody was like, I need 1,500 and Tony gave him 1,500.

Yeah, and they were making nothing. It's like, dude, these guys have done probably the most painful and terrifying gigs for almost nothing. So many times that if they want to talk about buying like a $7,000 watch, I get it. I'm more for it. Look, I get it. Seven Jesus, nothing to these guys at this point in their lives, so they can laugh about it. If it, like, Burt gets all excited about treating himself

with cool aid and shit, if he wants to look at his watch. Tito's. He's like, can you believe they brought me Tito's? I'm like, bro, that bottle is like 15 bucks, relax. 28. All right. But yeah, it's cheap vodka, and it's good. It's good bro, that bottle is like 15 bucks, relax. 28. All right. But yeah, it's cheap vodka and it's good. It's good vodka.

If you're a vodka person, I don't like that. I'm not a huge fan of vodka, but. Well, Aure didn't even take Joe's watch. He's like, you can have that. That's right. That Rolex. He's like, don't want it. He's not a watch guy.

Yeah, but Aure is like, I don't, I don't need shit either. I think he still has a flip phone. I'd like to know if he took it out after they were off air. I doubt it. No. Now he was pretty out of it. He would rather pee in the hallway. In the bottle. Yeah. Then it like to him, he just wants stories that mean something.

That was, that was my favorite, conglomeration of the homies that have been on the air for a while with Joe. You know, they've been doing a lot of them with Gillis and not each class, but yep, yep. And this is my favorite one, probably because Bert took over. Yeah, but this is like the original. Like they've been doing so sober October for a long time. And it's always been these four.

It's yeah. Okay. And they're just, it's so good. And then when they compete against each other and make a competition and get silly with it all, I mean, obviously they need to calm down because Joe will just go psychopathic on the wall and crush him.

I guess what I should have said is I like sober October better than national parks. Ooh. I do. Throwing it out there. I like them both. I don't like it. They're just, maybe it's because they're sober.

I get very excited for sober October. I'm not gonna lie. I love to see what they're up to. Cheers to that. Cheers to Silver October. As we drink white clothes. We don't have a beer sponsor. No, don't say anything.

We don't have zero beer sponsors. Oh, okay. Well, white clothes, not beer. It's just what we happen to have in this video. It's malt liquor. Okay. Yeah. Well, I hope that they come back November 1st

and do a drunkunken version of this. What about the tour that they talked about? That's fucking huge. It's gonna be amazing, dude. That's huge. When did they say that's gonna happen? I think they got to like, may of next year because they're all really busy and Joe needs to make a new hour.

But they're gonna do it at bigger stadiums though which big event use none of them are is I mean I do red rocks because Joe hasn't been there That would be dope the stadium You know they talked a lot about how the stadium is so much different than the theater and they're all gonna have to come up with new bits Because it's just totally different. Mm-hmm. It's totally different when you're speaking to a crowd of 10,000 people 20,000 people But all these guys know how to do it. I think we got to go. I don't think Ari has done a stadium though.

Ari hasn't done the stadium. No, but he could do it. He could do it. So Gerrass crushes. He's such a professional right now and he has so much experience. He wouldn't have a problem. He did ask to do two. And remember Joe was like, no, you do one, then you fight.

You get one go. Yeah. That would be an amazing tool to go two. Remember Joe was like, no, you do one, then you fight. You get one go. Yeah. That would be an amazing tour to go watch. Do you think birds really going to write a self-help book or was he just messing with us? Because I'd love to read it. Oh god, imagine the irony. Treats, he could just call it treats. Yeah, treats. Things I like to treat myself with and delusions, I believe in. believe in Lastly, I want to finish with the video they played of Chappelle coming on stage so they're in Ohio. I think of the OSU place and What was it where it's from? It was at OSU. Okay, no, well Chappelle's from somewhere in oh, he's in Akron Yeah, that's right. Yeah, oh closeron. Yeah, that's yeah old close by yeah and

I guess Tony went up. I Assume if it was if Tony Introduced she pal that means that Rogan still went last so he pushed his spot back But when he came out imagine going to that to that thinking, you're gonna see Tony and Rogan. So already great time. And then surprise. I've seen it both live and they are incredible. It's so fun to watch.

Then out of nowhere, Chappelle. And that minute long like standing ovation. I mean, that's like a rock star. It was a roaring, roaring, standing ovation. I mean, that's like a rock style. It was a roaring, roaring standing ovation. Yeah, it's pretty freaking cool. So fun. I'm so pissed we didn't make the show here, that special show that he did with John Mayer.

Oh, yeah, but do those tickets sold out in like 14 seconds. I know, I'm just throwing it out there. We missed it. He came to living in Stin Montana, 20 minutes from here and we didn't fucking go. Well, I hope that comes out, I hope that comes out in a special of some sort. They had to have videotaped that.

I sure hope so. Yeah, I can't wait to watch it. It'd be cool to watch John Maye and then, Chappell. They were doing bits together from what I heard. I had a big go. John Maye is funny, too. It was a very funny, funny, dude.

I mean, they were singing. They were singing songs together. That's cool. Yeah. What a time. Yeah. Great kind. They were a great fucking time for comedy, man. And we need to get to some shows for sure.

January or whenever they open the club down there, we got to get down there. Yeah. You know, because you know he's going to have so many of these heavy hitters down there, we gotta get down there. Yeah. Because you know, he's gonna have so many of these heavy hitters down there. And I think these his show, his comedy place is gonna be sold out for. Oh yeah. Absolutely. For Austin, it'll be sold out.

Every time they do a show there, I mean, at least when the heavy hitters do. Yeah. Heavy hitters. Heavy hitters. All right, well, great fucking week. Thanks to everyone that listened or at least listened to the end of this podcast, hitties do. Yeah. Heavy hitties. Heavy hitties. Alright, well great fucking week. Thanks to everyone that listened or at least listened to the end of this podcast, we appreciate

it. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, stay tuned next week for a more delicious episodes of the Joe Rogan experience. Nice sign off later. Later. you