Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 300 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Neil deGrasse Tyson Et al.

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

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You are sitting here with your co-host, Mr. Todd Heath and your host, the one and only, Adam Thorn, in the house, live and direct, if you were here in the building with us, but you're not. So you're going to be tuning in and thank you. What a week. Dude, dude. Any time you kneel, kneel, digressy on. I love it. Is that how you say it? Digressy? I think it's the grass.

Digress, Tyson. But that's how I remember how to spell it. Total ledge. Such a genius. He's so good. That was, obviously, that was my fave. Also, really liked Kurt Metzger. Dude, he's brilliant.

And then Derek Moeplates, I mean, just having him on to discuss the whole liver king debacle was brilliant. It's such a good week. Yes, but you don't have to just eat liver guys. You could probably throw in some fruit in there. Well, and according to the liver king, a bunch of steroids. Yeah, it turns out.

There he comes out. All right, Neil, what's he going on? Well, he's a legend of science and space, I would say. The web telescope. How exciting. Yes. I don't want to nerd out too hard, but you can't help it when you listen to Neil, because he's very enthusiastic about the nerdy as stuff. Yeah. And it's kind of brilliant. Like just his little breakdown of how that whole telescope works, getting super close to the sun, the way it opened up.

And then just it's like, I feel like he could make anything to do with the stars. Interesting to anybody. He's just that good because he's well, he's just so pumped up about it. He loves it. But yeah, I agree, man. It is awesome. And seeing the size of that thing compared to the Hubble telescope is unreal. Yeah.

It's like six times the size or four times the size. It's huge. What's 100 times beta? 100 times better, but it wasn't like six times bigger. Mm-hmm. Something like that. So it's six six greyhound buses instead of one. Yeah. But it folds, but it folds into one greyhound bus because it's still the same size going

out, right? And then it just expands. It does make you think like how long until we can get bigger, like rockets into space, like if we get better at this that seems like the only limitation It's not like we can't make good telescopes like it seems like we're really good at that already If we could get one of those giant ones up that are like on the top of mountains In those white domes. I feel like we be seeing everything I mean, I feel like what we what we just sent up there's got to be as big as those fucking giant telescopes on top of a mountain, but I don't know. Yeah, I know.

It's huge. I don't really know. It's huge. Yeah. Just like we see all over. Adam tells all his girlfriends. It's a hubble telescope. Yeah, the how cool is that? I mean, it went up in the 80s. We've been servicing it. It's kind of crazy. We haven't thrown another telescope up there since then. Well a big one because we could keep upgrading and fixing that one kind of cool and it was doing well this one though We can't according to Neil. We can't get out there and fix it right All right, it's too close to the sun or too far away. Yeah. Oh, yeah It's too far away. It was like a million miles

It's way too far, which I. Oh yeah, it's too far away. It was like a million miles. It's way too far. Which I don't understand how we do that, but cool. Radical. Small people. Glad we could figure it out. Yeah. The, that praying mantis photo that they had the hand of God,

they were calling it, with the infrared lighting you could see through that gas cloud. I mean, that was unreal. Yeah, I don't really get what that even is. I know it's like all the gaps. It's a star like being made, isn't it? Is it like a planet being born?

He was saying, but it's so massive. It's like the size of a galaxy. Yeah. Yeah. Like just floating around. He straight up, yeah, that was a photo of a planet and or a star being born. I don't know if they can tell what the difference is between a planet being born or a star being born. I don't know. I thought I wasn't a planet. Didn't it used to be a star? I don't know how that works.

I think the stars of first they blow up. Yeah. And then all the planets get made. It's crazy. Dude, I mean, in the how long how long now? Let's just throw a prediction out how long before we find some aliens. I mean, we've already found them. Yeah, but like properly like just stare at them, know what planet they're on, see some lights. Hopefully soon. Let's give it a year. It's just it's so wild to me that we haven't found a

with these telescopes. Yeah, and it's also wild to me that the ones we have found have somehow been kept in secret for so long. Yeah. The ones we have. So yeah, the new telescope, pretty damn cool. Yeah, the big bang, talking about the big bang, just being a small part of a much larger hole, kind of crazy.

You know, there's an infinity, there could be an infinity of universes. This could have already, this planet and this solar system could have already played itself out. We could be living. I mean, I I I do it. I was very interested in this whole Infinity of universe's idea of like you and I could be having the same exact conversation on a different Plane in a different world like exactly the same exact same thing Exactly the way it or could be happening in a different time. It could have already happened.

Yeah, we don't we don't know, but the math proves that it could have could be happening or could have already already happened, which I don't really understand, but if Neil deGrasse tells me that, then I'm going to believe him. I mean, yeah. And I've heard that before with the laws of physics. It's like, yeah, you can have one thing happening here and Adam moving around in the same Adam, moving around in a different spot, right? At the same time, isn't that it with the law of laws of physics? Yeah, I mean, it infinite really means that not only has this exact thing happen before, but this exact thing happened before and you were wearing a green hat and I was wearing a red one. Right.

Oh, I was you and you were me and the same thing happened. It's like, what does that even mean? Our Joe had the fro and the grass was bald. Yeah. I don't understand it. That's basically, that to me though, and you know, I'm saying this as someone that doesn't understand that anything close to the math behind any of it, all the physics. That to me sounds like there's just some error in the equation that just sends it out into infinity.

Right? You're going to say that there. I'm just saying eventually, there'd be like, oh yeah, that was just because we didn't quite loop this up and have the answer. But now we see kind of where it goes. How about the idea that the multi, it could be a multi-verse, and like some other weird version of our planet, or not our planet, our, sorry, our universe, right,

is like also happening somewhere else, but the laws of physics are different. That was the most trippy thing that he said to me. It's like you could go somewhere and all of a sudden you just end up in a puddle of atoms on the ground, because like, you know, you can't withstand whatever is on that planet. It's just different. You couldn't exist there.

You couldn't exist there. So you just melt. Yeah. Who knows, dude? I don't know. CNN just had an article that I read recently where they made two black holes. I saw that. And like that's a message between them or something.

They basically made a wormhole. I look, you can't stop technology. Saying things like, I don't think we should explore AI, or I don't think we should explore wormholes. No, someone's gonna do it. It's happening. We should do it. But, sounds a little scary. Well, I'm excited to read his book.

I don't remember him telling us the name of the book, but he kept referencing it through the pod. So that must be coming out soon. Yeah, it seemed like most of it was quotes, really clever quotes. He had a lot of good quotes, good chapters. The chapter about, he said he had a chapter about vegans and, you know, he brought up the idea of like, well, is a tree not living, is a plant not living. If you're going to cut that down and eat it, how is that any different?

That was interesting to me yeah yeah I've read one of his previous books and it was it was really good it was like you basically dumbed down astrophysics kind of with just cool stories I love that he's good at explaining really unexplainable shit mm-hmm which God, the people exist like that. Yeah. I love how he was not paying any attention to Joe when Joe was trying to talk about Lex for even a minute and coming on. I didn't get that fully.

It's like, either he was that busy looking up the quote, though it seemed unusual, or maybe has like some feelings about who Lex is. I mean, he didn't really imply that he knew he was like, no, I don't know who that is. I've never been on that. But it was just, it was like an unusually kind of like... I didn't notice the unusualness of that one. Huh. Well, Joe kept looking at Jamie and saying,

I don't think he wants to go on Lex's and I don't think he's interested. He's like, no, no, no, thanks for letting me know. Well, maybe like they were talking about, they talked quite a bit about a lot of these physicists having, you know, being on the spectrum. He's, you know, he's a little socially awkward maybe even with, even with Joe who he's pretty close to, like they seem like their homies. Hmm.

Maybe it could have been something like that. I don't know. Good point. Good point. I mean, Neil deGrasse was such a legend that he was one of the first really legit guests, the Rogan hat. So, yeah, fat plate to him for coming on so early on in the game. You know, when it was just such a fringe, stona podcast, I mean, I think that's awesome. And they've obviously built like a great friendship. And he's just one of the best guests to get on. What did you think about the brain percentage issue? The brain percentage or what?

Well, when they were talking about why we think we're the smartest, right? So they talked about like our brain size, yet dolphins brains are bigger, whales are. Right. But then they were like, well, you know, it's in relation to the size of our body. Right.

But then there's a bunch of other animals that actually beat us. So it kind of begs the question like, what other than us being good at writing things down and therefore passing knowledge on, you know, because you could take a creature that could be smarter than a human. Like just we're just talking their brain is like more intelligent. human. Like just we're just talking their brain is like more intelligent. But every generation they have to kind of basically figure everything out again. They're not really passing acknowledge on other than, you know, early childhood, like how to tunt for an animal. So you can eat. That's really what most other animals pass to their offspring. Right. Right. They're not writing things down with the brains are more advanced.

There's no way they could get ahead of us. It's like we could be dumb, but just could at writing things down. It's like we have a manuscript every generation. But yeah, I haven't thought about it that way. Well, we were born into this world, and we don't know how any of this shit works. Much smarter people than us build it before us. And we, all we have to do is just add on a little bit each time. Yeah, and look, I mean, my kid is like using my phone

and knows how to operate shit on my phone and he's too. He knows how to move stuff around, he can play videos on there, that's crazy. And that's all he knows from the start of his life, he has access to so much. Yeah. Who knows what that next generation is? Well, think about anytime, anytime he needs,

he wants to talk to his grandparents, he can just FaceTime. Imagine how cool that would have been when we were little. That's sweet. Like I want to talk to grandma cool. You know, no one was calling their grandma to talk. You know what I mean? In the 80s, it's not like they were like, Hey, talk to grandma real quick. No, no. Not like they do now with FaceTime.

Grandparents want to talk because they can see the kid. It makes it way more, they made it, they want to talk more because they can see the kid. It makes it way more, they want to talk more because they can see the kid when they're talking to him. Yeah, you'd never put a two-year-old on the phone. No, you'd be able to see what's going on. Be a mess. And the parents can be in the background just waving and doing other stuff.

Yeah, whatever. Just keeping the conversation going. Yeah, or just letting the kid do their thing while the parents actually get something done. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the whole, yeah, just letting the kid do their thing while the parents actually get something done. Yeah, the whole, the whole, when they started talking about the spectrum and then the disorders and the brains and the, what was it? The face blindness thing they talked about, which was crazy. I'd never heard of that. That's why it never heard of that. They said Brad Pitt suffered from that. Nuts. Huh. Not being able to see people's faces. But then the guy, didn't they say they talked with him

years later? And he was saying he would never not want that, because what did he say? Well, like Spock told his research. That's why he went into doing the type of academics that he did. You know, but that went into doing the type of academics that he did. But that led into all the things that was going to mount with disabilities. What really is a disability?

Because we've benefited from the variation of all of those random things that happen to people, whether it's Asperger's or I don't think they call it Asperger's anymore, they call it just being on the spectrum. Right. Right. Yeah, I mean, there's no way Einstein wasn't, it didn't have some sort of, wasn't on the spectrum, right? You demand that. You're that smart.

Yeah. If you're that smart, and you can focus on something like figuring out the theory of relativity, there's no way that you have a normal brain. I mean, obviously you're genius, but like there's other things that have to come out of that. Like was he socially awkward?

I don't know. He didn't seem to be socially awkward. If he looked at him in photos and he used to teach classes and shit, so probably not. Well, a huge note. For sure. I mean, maybe he's an anomaly, but I mean, DeGras grass was saying how much of his colleagues

just are probably on the spectrum, if not most. Well, there's like a focusing issue, I think, that comes with it. You know, they can be single-minded and just sit and work on problems rather than... Without Adderall. Yeah. Which would be sweet, then getting distracted with regular stimulus. That is right. Right there. Yeah. It's kind of crazy.

I mean, they talked about Jim Abbott, who obviously pitched no hitter. I remember that dude who always carried his glove on his little arm, that, you know, because his hand was gone. Remember that, dude? Probably not because you were from England, or you're from England, but he was a sports Yeah, he was a sports He's a baseball player back in the 80s and 90s, but Could he catch with that hand or no? No, he would so he'd throw the ball and then he'd switch hands

He'd throw the ball and then he'd put the glove in his in his throwing hand Oh, no, yeah, because he only had one hand so he he'd hold it on his little elbow, you know, knobber. I don't know what you'd call that. I don't know how to be PC with that, but like his half arm, he would put his glove on there and then switch it. It's fucking sweet, dude. I mean, guy was an amazing pitcher, left-handed pitcher.

I remember watching him when I was a kid. I remember thinking, holy shit. Like this guy doesn't have an arm and he's a pitcher. Like how does he fucking play baseball? Well, what did he say? Like there's been 300 and something. No hitters out of like, not more than 1,300.

Yeah, not more than 1,300. He's one of 300 out of how many? Like the stats are not even close to being in your favor. And, and sorry, I do not know exactly what that means. I assume it means just no one could hit the bowl. No, every pitch you pitch, you pitch all strikes the entire game. No one hits the ball. No, no, hitter. You, it's a, yeah, no one hits the ball strike out every fucking,

every person that comes to, to the plate. Jesus. Are you sure that's right? That's a no hitter. Yeah. Are you sure that's right? That's a no-hitter, yeah. Well, what would happen then if no one got any runs, but like they hit it, but they were like foul balls. I think maybe a foul counts.

I think a foul counts. Well, I'll look that up. Keep talking. I'll look it up because I'm curious now. Well, because we're going to get emails from baseball fans that are going to get mad at us. But I kind of want to know. Yeah, I want to know, but that is pretty amazing.

I heard there was a guy that did it on acid once, too. Did you hear about that? I do. Yes. Who is that guy? He was the dude from the Padres. What the fuck was his name? I watched the movie.

Vice or somebody did like a, someone did an animated film about that. It's like a 15 minute film. I'm going to have to find that. I'd like to know how much acid it's so good. Was it a microdose? No, he was tripping. He was tripping. He was tripping. He was definitely tripping. That that would have been wild. He probably had no idea What was going on that whole time? I Couldn't believe the Neil didn't Alice. What was his name? Doc Ellis.

Oh, that's a good name. Doc Ellis stated that he accomplished the feat under the influence of LSD. Accumulated at 138 over 119 record. Yeah, 1136 straight outs. Yeah, June 12th, 1970, pitch didn't know, hit her on acid. Jesus.

Doesn't say how much acid though. Mm-hmm. Heh. Like he probably wouldn't know. But it sounded like enough, enough. I couldn't believe that Neil didn't want to go into space. Oh, he straight up admitted that he never pitched without the use of drugs.

Dying of a liver ailment. Anyway. Dude, for that guy. Sorry, what was that last time? No, no, just that the Neal doesn't really care to go into space. He doesn't even feel like that's like space where they're going. Like this low earth, old bit, shit. Just outer earth.

Just outer earth, bro. But chill out. You know what I mean? It's like, that to me is like, if you get up that ish, and you can kind of see all the stars and the darkness and like the curve of the earth, and that's gotta be worth a ride, right?

Oh, totally. Maybe he thinks it's too dangerous. See? Yeah, I mean, he doesn't want to do any drugs. I like how Joe was trying to push him on taking some loose in the juice. He was not having it. No. No. Okay, so during a no-hitter, there can be walks, errors, and hit by pitches.

Okay, you just can't score a run, though, right? You cannot get on base, basically, unless it was for a walk. So no one can hit the ball. It, like, like, a fuck. Hold on, does it say a foul? But if you could have walks, couldn't they eventually make it all the way around a score? A run? Yeah, but I don't know.

Is that ever fucking happened? I don't know. You're gonna walk four for people and then one's just gonna walk in No way. Oh because he because the person that made it to that one base can't run to the others Until somebody hits it gets walked again or hits. Yeah, that's just gonna sit on first base the whole time. Yeah Probably fall asleep. All right. Well now we know a little bit about that. Alright, let's talk about his predictions before he's stop. I didn't write him all down because he had a bunch, but these are the predictions by 2050 that I thought were interesting. Oh, that was some good ones. Yeah, um, let's see. Oh, mental health will be cured by neuroscience by 2050. Yeah, good luck.

I think that one is not gonna be right. It's not gonna happen. No, it's gonna be a long time. It's gonna be worth. It's gonna be worth. It's gonna be a long time to figure out the brain. Good luck if that comes true. Self-driving cars will replace all regular cars.

I believe that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that one's good. Space travel will be paid for primarily by private tourism. Reasonable. Yeah, whatever. Virgin Airlines. Good, let's go.

Yeah, no doubt. And all just going up to private contractors, just mining asteroids. Let's just hope we can figure out the fossil fuel dilemma by then. Yeah, well, we'll see. CUDA cancels with a serum. That'd be nice. Too much money in the drug industry, so highly doubtful.

Oh, okay, controversial. And he had a bunch of this, but they want really like appealing to me. Chimps are white. Ooh, that was tight. Yeah, that was tight. He finished with hair, hair, hair, and stuff. Bigger ears. I mean, no black dudes walking around with chest hair

coming out of the top of his shirt. Good point. My uncle, fuck that dude. Motherfuckers got some hair coming out of his shirt. I definitely have a very white English uncle that is, you know, there's a good chance that's like 10% neonbethyl. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, he's definitely a gorilla. But I liked, I liked what he was saying. I felt like it was important because, yeah, you know, it is these anthropologists, like did kind of focus things around how the public would want to hear it. Right. Or it was bullshit. No, it's bullshit. Yeah, it was bullshit.

Instead of really looking at it for how you could take a step back and describe it, which is better science. Or better like history of science, I guess. Well, better science because you're focusing on truth, you're focusing on facts. Right. Science is based on fact. Hopefully. Hopefully. It focusing on facts. Right. It's based on fact, hopefully. Hopefully.

It needs to be. It needs to be. Yeah, should be. Not money. Take money out of the equation, and we're focusing on facts here. Yeah. Chimps are hairy white motherfuckers. That have lights.

Degrassi. Degrassi legend. Let's jump over to Derek from more plates, more dates. Can we get a last name on Derek? Oh, what is Derek? I couldn't find his last name. Doesn't it have it on there? Looked the guy up all over the internet. He doesn't like, he doesn't frickin' tell us his last name. Oh, well maybe he doesn't want to. Alright, so I don't think I'd tell people my last name, bro. Relax. Well, you know, I mean I can find you on the internet though with your last name. Oh, okay Let's see Derek, Derek, Derek

Nope doesn't say it on here. Well, whatever Derek Derek for real this guy is Very smart. I like his channel. It's interesting. I loved it when he did the John Jones breakdown of the PDs or steroids that he could have been on and the picot meters and the tiny amounts. He's just a well-read, intelligent individual when it comes to things like steroids, lifting, the fight game, analyzing people. So the fact that he was the one that broke the story on the liver king, no surprise. I didn't really know that he had such a journalistic research kind of base background here, but you know,

he did it. And the liver king has been trying to get on Rogan forever. Well, since he's started to blow up, he's been pushing hard, he's been trying to get on Rogan's radar. Rogan's been having none of it from day one. He didn't trust that guy for a second. He's got a bullshit meter, he knows. He has a good bullshit meter, I totally.

It's cause he's a good human. And he's just, and he's probably cause he's from Jersey. Yeah, there's just no, it's too cold of that. It's too cold up there. No, there's too many bullshitters there, dude. He's like, go fuck yourself, get outta here. He's like, I've seen this shit before. But fair play to him, right? Because it does kind of come back to the fact that Rogan says, I don't get people on that I think, you know, can get me more listeners. And the people I want to talk to.

And the liver king was trending and getting popular fast. Like it would have been a show that a lot of people would listen to. And the liver king was trending and getting popular fast. Like it would have been a show that a lot of people would listen to Joe just didn't want to. He's like, I don't give a fuck about this. Well, I appreciate that about Rogan and I will say the people who give Joe Rogan shit because they don't they haven't listened to him.

And they just they just go by what they've seen or heard online. You know, when they think he's bringing in all these people who don't know what they're talking about, no, he's bringing in people that he is curious about and he's bringing in people what, at least from what I've seen since I've been helping with this show, people who have legitimate, you know, let's not say science, but like he's brought in doctors in the past when he was getting all that shit about COVID, right? Those were legitimate doctors, the guy who made the test was hot. Remember how much shitty got for that? The guy who made the PC test or what was that called, the PR test? Yeah. The rapid test. No, the mRNA vaccine.

Yeah, and the mRNA vaccine. Okay, so that was two separate guys, you're right. The other dude made that, the Rapid Test, Molly was on acid. I think so. Came up with the idea, that was a different dude. That guy's dead. Yeah, he wasn't on the show,

but they talked about him. They talked about him. No, the guy who's on the show got kicked out of the Saul Institute in California by his colleagues for probably talking shit right. I'm going to probably telling a little truth right exactly. So Rogan wants to know the truth. That's what I'm getting at.

And he knows this guy's a bullshitter. Liver King is just in it for the fame. It seems like in the to up his self-esteem a little bit. Well, I was talking to some guys at the gym this morning, and it came up. We were in sauna. I never overheard them talking about it. And they were like,

Oh, you hear about the liver king, blah, blah. And so I just kind of joined in, because I knew that I was gonna be discussing this later. So I was like, all right, let's get that feet. And they were like, yeah, I mean, it's just bullshit that he's on steroids. Like steroids is such a cheat. And I had to remind him, guys, I don't think

that that's what the issue was for Rogan. Yeah. What the issue was for Rogan is that he would lie about it. In people's faces, yeah. Yeah, it's like, hey, you're gonna do what you do. It's fine, but don't pretend that the only way you can do this is without this one big factor. That's super disingenuous. It's just a lying. Right. It's not cool. It's gonna be interesting to see how he continues his message with this. Yeah, I feel bad for his partner, Paul.

continues his message with this. Yeah, I feel bad for his partner, Paul. That guy seems like a cool dude. And I don't know, I shouldn't say that. He seems like he's a nice guy. Seems like he's way smarter than his business partner, Paul. I don't know. I don't know. He is legit, dude.

Yeah, he's definitely so much. He's someone to follow. He's someone to listen to. He's really genuine and knows his stuff. And I think he just got caught up in something that he was like Yeah, I don't know should have drug tested his partner. I love when Rogan said that Yeah, I drug tested. Well, that's what Rogan would have done. Rogan wouldn't have stood for that I watched when I was doing research on who this Derek I was when I was trying to figure out his last name

I I was doing research on who this Derek I was when I was trying to figure out his last name. I saw his response on Chris Williamson's podcast and it was good. It was better than the, because they didn't talk much about it. They put the liver king's response on Rogan. They didn't say much about it. They kind of played through it. They didn't even play through the whole thing. On Williamson's pod, they go into it more. Oh shit.

Yeah, it was good. But it was just, it was ridiculous. But it was just it was ridiculous because this guy is talking about self-esteem and you know people killing themselves over you know not having self-esteem and this and that and he's doing the opposite thing. He's basically lying to these kids to tell them they can do this thing to make them feel better but it's a fucking lie. So the guy the guy is a pretty big hypocrite in my mind. Well, what just sucks about that? It's too bad because he does seem like he does want to help.

I mean, clearly he's going through his own mental health issues. Well, the worst part is he probably was helping a lot of people. He was really forcing it, right? But he could have taken the message in a different way. He could have said, Hey, I have body dysmorphia and self-esteem issues. So I started with steroids. I still do that. But also this way of eating is really good. I feel like he could have gained as much. He just hedged his bets and did it dishonestly. And he's really let a lot of people down.

He had a goal. And it's really not cool.. Well the fact that he in the video did say it's almost like he's justifying. Like the core, you know, what he didn't justify the means. Like it's okay that I lied because it was so important that I help these people that were going to kill themselves. That's not a core angle. If you're going to do an apology video, you just got to apologize. Yeah, you don't blame it on the reason why you were doing it. The reason

why it was doing it is to get likes. Let's be honest, you could see right through that. We'll take Joe's apology video when they did the compilation of the N word. He didn't come out and say the only reason I did that is because my audience loves it and it was funny at the time and that wasn't how he did it. He just apologized. Yeah. He just said, yeah, fuck that. That was not cool.

Kept it simple. I mean, that's reasonable. Yeah. It's just an honest apology. It's man and up in the correct way. I think so. Well, it was a better version of an apology. There's just more integrity there.

And being more humble, not trying to blame. Anytime you apologize and blame someone else, is not a real apology. Yeah, even if you're working around the blame, you're just kind of circling the drain with the way that you're saying this. It's like, bro You're going down it like I don't know what yeah, I can't tell you though How many friends or people I know that would just straight up with me like no dude this guy's not on it

He says I believe him. Well, he was a good liar Dude just look at his body. Yeah, I mean, I don't understand it. The guys walk around with his shirt off and looking like fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger back in the 80s. I mean, Jesus Christ, we all know fucking Arnie was on some bills. I think he should fight Jake Paul. Mmm, wouldn't that be fun? Yeah, that might be the way that he, you know, works through this.

Well, he's gonna need a magnesium salt bath afterwards. I mean, Andrew Tate's doing it, got canceled from everything on social media, now he's fighting Jake Paul. Good. Why not throw the liver king in next? I don't know. Love it. Yeah, look, the guy, like I said before,

I feel bad for his business partner, Paul. I'm curious to see what happens with those two. What did you think about him? You know Rogan in a sense kind of cooling out the rock a little bit. I mean good for him man I mean he knows the rock we know the rocks doing this You know the rock the rock appreciates Rogan was gonna come on until the you know the Splice together n-word video and then he kind of pulled away and Which I thought was lame for the rock. Oh look here's the thing with the rock though He's he's such a celebrity. He cannot do anything to tarnish his contracts with fucking Disney and the million other people

You get you kind of can't give them shit for that I respect I understand that and they did talk about that a lot. That's the reason why it's not because you didn't want to go talk to Joe It's not like him's worth could come out and go on Rogan. There's a reason some of these guys don't go on Yeah, they don't they don't want to they don't need to go on No number one, it's like It's too much of a game with the movie industry. You're not going to fuck that up by coming on. You wait until you get kicked out of the movie industry,

like what's her name that was on? The woman who was on months ago, the fighter. Oh, Gina Crowner. Yeah. You got to wait until you do something dumb. Fuck up all your contracts. Then you come on around. And then try and make a plea for yourself.

I swear I love the Jews, I didn't mean it. It's such a shame though. I feel like, I feel like honesty wins out, even if there is a bit of a, of course, but I guess you just can't. Not in the movie industry. You can't just be like, Hey, I had to do this thing that was illegal and really frowned upon in order to get this role. I mean, look, every

single biker, what is it? Like 80% of people in the Tour de France were taking the same shit that Lance was doing. I mean, hate to say it guys. Everyone's doing it. If you're going to be at that level, hate to say it. Not everybody, but there's a very slim amount. We're going to go back to digracy and talk about statistics here. Statistically, you don't think most people are doing that shit, whether it's growth hormone, steroids, when it comes to being at the top of their game, for those guys, they have to look that way. Hensworth has to look that way, if he wants to be Thor again.

Yeah, you can't be like a celebrity. It's like a new flow. Let me ask you this. If you're gonna take steroids, okay, hey Adam, I'm gonna give you this contract for 20 million to be in the next Thor movie. All you gotta do is take steroids for two months you can say no you had no shit man done I'll do it for 20 grams it's all you gotta say about that yes please give me the roids and would I talk about that fuck no no dude that shit was natural

look at me I just jacked up fucking 50 pounds of muscle up. Yeah, I just worked out a lot because I'm so dedicated. All I did was eat liver. To my, to my, um, I mean, you still got to work out a lot. I don't think it just happens. Rogan says this a lot, but not dwelling on failure in shortcomings. He, he, he talks about hanging out with the right people

and the friendships that he's had. He's obviously been a good friend. But I liked the part about not dwelling on shortcomings because I do that a lot. You know, how could this have gone better? Even after that party on Friday, we threw a huge party, sold out the crowd. The crowd was a sold out crowd. I'm still thinking back, what did we do wrong? Why can't I just celebrate the good, the good parts and the good things?

I know. But it, but it broken does not too, man. He says he's his own worst critic. Me too. And you know, as long as it doesn't haunt you, keep you up at night and stop you from pushing forward and actually doing it better. I think there's an element to that. That's true. There's an element. You don't want to be phoning in your successes, right? It's like the next Adam Soundler movie,

no offense Adam Soundler, I love you. I think you're hilarious, but he has a lyrish. He's been phoning in some movies for a while. It's gotta get that dull. He's gotta chase that paper. You could still make that the movie good. That Jewel's movie did was the last movie that I liked by him.

He's done some good ones. Well, I can't remember the name of it. They've talked about it on Rogan before. Was that the gambler? Where was the gambler? Now those ones that he did, like sparinglish as well, when he gets those serious ones, they're actually really good.

But what's the one where he hangs out with all the comedians like Chris Roxon and they're fucking like a water park together. Oh, I don't know that one. There was one where he was a dad, like his kid was getting married. That movie was horrible. There's some cheese all on set.

No, not to pick on him, but like you could phone it into, right? So being critical is okay, but it's things like the externals, I think is what he's hammering down. Like don't read the reviews. You know, don't do that. Don't just go down that route. Yeah, don't dwell on getting your ass kicked in high school and letting it ruin your life.

Oh, yeah, that's a good point. That's difficult though. That's a baggage. that's a good point. That's difficult though. That's a baggage. That's a bad one. That's a baggage for him. I have some baggage. Well, I'm going to England tomorrow. Yeah.

And I haven't lived there for a very long time. I just visit every year. Every time I go back, most of the memories that pop up are like when I was real young. And all those weird type of thoughts, sink in, right? There's like the street that someone beat me up on, on the way home from school that I see, and it's like all of that kind of creeps in. That's hard to get out of your system, dude.

Give him some respect. It could, yeah, it could have happened in several multiverses, bro. Or, I like to think in some of those multiverses, I didn't get my ass kicked. You maybe kicked their ass. Yeah, I'd like to believe it, but I don't know. I think there was just more of those that I got beat up, to be honest.

All right, let's jump over to the legend that is, Kurt, Metska, or, if you watch called none again, then, Kurt, brilliant, right or do, so funny. Or if you watch Caldon again, then Kup. Brilliant, brilliant, right or do so funny. He had some great moments on this too. He's, he fucking cracks me up. And if you're not already following Caldon again's, you too, Kyle, Kyle, darling, what do I say? You said Carl. Oh, I meant Kyle.

It's Kyle. Yeah. Good dude. Fucking hilarious go ahead with your thought though. Yeah, if you're not following, if you're not already following him, get on it. I mean the stuff that he does with with Sylvester Salone, the faces, her lives downstairs and oh just all of the facewap and stuff. The facewap and shit with the Kardashians is my favorite dude. I don't know if they're already doing live shows where they have all that set up already. I think that they are or they've tried it. Like they show up at the screen and it's up behind the screen.

And he just does it and goes for it. I mean, recently they had Seinfeld on and they talked about it at the end. That whole episode is brilliant. The fact that the Seinf sign fell, the legend. He doesn't need to do that shit. Went on this silly YouTube show. I mean quote unquote silly, but it's brilliant. But you know, just to you could imagine that to him

and his standard of comedy and who he is and like the clean comedian, like yeah I guess he's doing a movie with Kyle and yeah you know what I'll come on your show so he's talking to Sylvester Salone and they got to make they got a he has to guess his lines in old Seinfeld and old shows that he did in order to feed this kid like this kid wins the Thanksgiving meal it It's just brilliant. That's an actual movie coming out or that was just get. That was a skit.

Okay. Okay. Okay. It's so good. I'll send it to you later. Nice. It's it's just really well. I might one of my notes that I tagged here right at the beginning is that

ticket quotas are a myth with cops, which I don't believe because any cop that got fired or is the one Coming out and saying to people that they that ticket quotas are actually real Yeah, they're probably real. So yeah, there's that The Michael Rupert thing I had never seen that movie that was it chaos. What is the name of that movie? It was the movie about him coming out he was it used to be a friend of rogans oh was it a collapse collapse that's right no it's collapse no collapse I actually clutched it too I forgot and it's talking about the CIA and the contraband and then Rick Ross they get into Rick Ross too right about you know

the CIA funneling all this crack into South Central LA. I definitely believe all of that. There was another cop who got killed. I can't remember his name. He came out. He had a six stash back in the 80s. Something, I'm going to fuck up his name.

I think it's Gary Webb, but I'm going to check it out, but I don't know how that just came into my brain. Well, I watched collapse, right? That night I went home and I think it was like three bucks, or maybe Amazon. And yeah, it's what they said. He just sits there, chain smoking, but kind of breaks down like the petroleum industry,

like how really how the world is run, the banking systems, all the rest of it. It's, I don't know how much of it to believe, but if you like to relax in the evening and maybe smoke a joint or do some edibles and just kind of go down a rabbit hole of kind of fun thinking, I definitely recommend this. I can't believe that I hadn't watched it up until now. And I think they ended saying that he did kill himself and it wasn't really like that suspicious circumstances meaning that probably when people do go down those types of rabbit holes it does send you into a weird depression. Wait, are you talking about Gary?

No, Michael, he killed himself. Oh shit, well, okay, well I don't know enough about that story, but I know Gary Webb apparently killed himself, but I don't know if I believe it. But they're talking about, he was an investigative reporter talking about the same stuff that was in the film about how the CIA was funneling all of this cocaine and then turning it into crack, funneling it over to Rick Ross who was then selling it, and then that was paying for the war down in Nicaragua. And also, you know, it wasn't just Nicaragua. It was all over South America at the time. What a fucked up situation. Yeah, anyways. Yeah, the army's financiers, who met with CIA agents before, and during the time they

were selling the drugs in LA, delivered cut-rate cocaine to the gangs through a young South Central crack dealer named Ricky Donald Ross. Unaware of his supplier's military and political connections, freeway Rick, a dope dealer of mythic proportions in the LA drug world, turned the cocaine powder into crack and wholesaled it to gangs across the country. The cash Ross paid for the cocaine court record showed was then used to buy weapons and equipment for a guerrilla army named the Fuherza, Democratica, Nicaraguanse,

or FDN, the largest of several anti-communists commonly called the Contras. This is fact as far as I know. Anyway, crazy. Yeah. That chef freaks me out, I mean, it's I don't even know like what to think of that sort of stuff when you hear it. Is it like business as usual, get on with your life, just keep going, or then what? I mean, in a weird way, it doesn't really seem to discredit these agencies, right? It's like, well, that was the CIA in the 70s. All that was the CIA in the 50s. This is the CIA in the 80s. That's was the CIA in the 50s. All this is the CIA in the 80s.

So that's how they do it. Look, if they figure out a way to get free money, which is basically what that was, right, to, because they, you know, they're trying to get weapons down to these people so that we don't go to war down there. We're still funding the war. Mm-hmm.

It's crazy. We could go down that rabbit hole for a while, but I, yeah, they've been doing this shit for sent for a fucking decades. But how is there not a major oversight committee for this? For like all these different departments? Bro, what is that? The Supreme Court is really what it is. And then it has to be a lawsuit against that.

You know, the only documents they give you are so blacked out that there's like just the date and one name on that. Well, I think nowadays it's a lot easier because you just drone strike those motherfuckers. And then that's what they, you know, it's like the means to the end, right? It's like there's a means to the end. They have, they've figured that one thing, the thing that they're doing is more just than the other thing that they're doing, right? Yeah.

Well, they talked about entraman, right? And Joe brings it up all the time, that guy that was like pulled in, young kid, make a bomb, and it was all fake and the FBI arrest him. Right. With the drone. Yeah, like total, no, no. He was, was with the drone. Yeah, yeah, like total. No, no He was was it a drone or just like a bomb but there was kids around

Something but the bomb wasn't real and it was just total entrapment and then it goes back to the military What was that the gay bomb that they said they were trying to make? I don't remember that Yeah, they said they tried to make a gay bomb. So to kill... You could imagine the US military... Homosexuals, no, no, no. What did they tell them? They told them to gay bomb. It was to turn people gay.

Oh, turn people gay. I don't have that one in my notes. Oh, yeah. The gay bomb was a thing. The notes I had was from the grassy, which was talked in about in the 1980s, they had to take out of the encyclopedia that homosexuality was a mental disorder.

Did you remember hearing that? Yeah. Anyway, that's the only thing I remember. No, they tried that. I mean, you could imagine the US government tried all sorts of things. Well, of course they did. At the military, at least.

Well, all that shit, I mean, they went into all that stuff with Manson and that, oh, that was the other book I was thinking of chaos. That was the other book that that Rogan's been talking about for a while. Mm-hmm. I, some of these I don't even want to read. No, they're just gonna get me. Mad. I mean, the Jackie Gleason thing, that was huge. Talking about Gleason going on a drunken plane ride with Nixon. Ooh, yeah, let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.

I want to believe that was real so bad. So bad. So bad. Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on, though. I have one other thing I want to talk about Kevin Larry, and we'll finish with Gleason. Okay. So was Kevin Larry been pushing FTX?

FTX, right? Or is it ETX? I don't know. So Leroy is a shark tank guy. Yeah. I think that he was, I should probably look this up. I know Tom Brady was, bad move. But let's be honest, what did Brady really know about crypto? He doesn't know shit, but O'Leary knows enough

Well, Leroy's a smart motherfucker. He's a shark. He's a shark tank. He should have known Look it up. We got some time hanging there with us. Yeah, but yeah, no, no talk about I'll look it up Well, you talk about the the Jackie Gleason thing because that's a story that I've heard in the past that is so interesting I mean to me it sounds like such a boys club, right? Yeah. So this is before the internet, before like the media is really, you know, hammering presidents and everything they did.

So those presidents, you know, around the time we like JFK, Nex and all that, they kind of just got away with whatever the fuck they wanted. They could do whatever they want. And they, maybe they would just have in some drinks and he wanted to like I guess the expression is I don't know what you call it Billy big balls at big time He wanted to look cool. Which is such a Nixon thing to do Bro, let me show you something

Wow, and it probably a lot of Presidents that this I would probably have done it back then like hey, hey, let me show you something to blow your mind. I tell you, if you didn't, I'd be fucking pissed. If you didn't tell me that you knew where aliens were, yeah, I get it. And then he comes back, white face, and there he is. You could try and make sense. Couldn't talk for months, freaking out.

And then his wife apparently came out with the story. She was the only mother of a person he ever told. Yeah. But it was like a fucking tabloid essay. I was asked it was S-quire and then, but then they claim it wasn't S-quire. So then they claim it was the inquire, the national inquire.

Yeah, I didn't look into that one, but it sounded interesting and also would be so cool if it was real. Don't know. But I did find here that O'Leary, I'm sure most of you guys know him as a Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank, was an investor, well, Ant's still an investor, I don't know what that means now, he's not investing any more money into FTX, we know that much. You get to know that.

Took a similar position, tweeting, I lost millions an investor in fdx and got sandblasted as a paid spokesperson for the firm but after listening to that interview i'm in the bill ackman camp about the kid i'm not sure what the bill ackman camps all about well probably the it's all bullshit because he knew it was because he knew it yeah Bill Ackman. Sorry. He knew Ackman He knew that the that the guy was a piece of shit

Is that what he means probably got you. Yeah, so he wasn't investor He said he's saying a day ago on Yahoo Finance. I'm gonna get my money back Yeah, good luck. You don't need any more money Kevin. Yeah, you're fine. Also, you made you made a dumb decision Do that that guy would have gotten fucking kicked off a shark tank so fast Well guys, thank you as always for joining us this week What a good week of post if you haven't heard those get in get them down the if you You know don't like liver king, definitely check out

Derek's and the rest are awesome. Thank you so much. Next week we will be coming at you from, well, partially from England, because I'm going to be over there. England and Montana. There we go. All right. See you next week, guys. Thanks for tuning in! Peace!