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Episode Date: February 10, 2023

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Hey, everyone, and welcome to the second episode of the week of the JRE review. Today we're going to go in a slightly different direction. As you know, I do the Joe Rogan Experience review. The reason I did it is to continue the conversation with the Joe Rogan Experience. Add a little bit, thoughts, ideas from fans, and just kind of keep the conversation going. What I've always felt is in the world of podcasting, it's hard to know what podcast to listen to and when. There's so many great episodes out there. Often I follow a lot of people, Lex Freeman, Jordan Peterson, you know, Hugh Roman, you name it.

There's just so many great shows and it's hard to keep up. It's hard to know where the good episodes are and when to listen to them. So I have a new show that's coming out. It's called Talking Heads with my buddy Sean. This show is designed purely with our team to find great conversations in the World of Podcasts, review them, talk about them in a similar way that we do the Rogan experience. So that listeners know where the good conversations are and the hope is so you don't miss any. Today we're going to play an episode from that show, links are in the bio, please go there, follow, subscribe, and see how it goes.

Hopefully this is a good resource for you. I believe it will be. Stay tuned. Thanks guys. Hello and welcome to Talking Heads Podcast. In in this show we take great snips from other shows Shine a bit of light add a bit of contacts and always add some humor We are not affiliated with any of the shows mentioned in the podcast However, if you are interested in the shows discussed you can easily find them by going to the link in the podcast. And now, to the show. And the real world is not an idea. It is not words. Reality is... Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Talking Heads podcast with myself Sean and Adam.

What's happening? This week we are discussing Joe Rogan on the meat eater podcast with with, forgive me, I forget his name. Steve Rinella. Steve Rinella. Steve Rinella. You're not a big Meet Eater podcast? Well, this is the first podcast that I've listened to him. Obviously, we do live in Montana, so there is a big hunting crowd out here, and I've met

a bunch of people who are into hunting and stuff, but I'm not as well versed as obviously the Steve Orjo, and I think it sounds like you. I don't remember how much do you know about. Yeah, I know a little bit. I've gone bow hunting the last three seasons and I've done it two seasons before, previously, and done a few rifle hunts.

But I'm not really very experienced either. There's so much to know. Oh, yeah. You get it just to some things. I really enjoy listening to Steve's podcast, though, when I do. It's just fascinating. I don't listen to it that much. But I've always liked Steve Rinala, And I actually met him a couple of months ago

Um, I think back in Shit, what was that maybe October? He was doing the meat eater season 11 release party here in Boseman Oh, and the Schnee's Is that you say? Oh, yeah, Schnee's yeah, sir big. I'm surprised it wasn't at the sitka Place yeah, sitka's huge. Oh, yeah, yeah, they have like a Retailer Siga guy came by right before we've got yeah, he wants to do some Something with the bombs though magazine stuff that we do out of the studio. It's pretty cool

Anyway, yes, Steve was awesome great guy met him signed like a calendar that I have and Yes, Steve was awesome. Great guy met him. He signed like a calendar that I have. And yeah, and then the new season was coming out. So it was keen to kind of see what he was up to. What I really like about him is he seems to me in a way to be like the Anthony Bolden of hunting. Oh yeah, right?

I like that comparison, yeah. Because he has such a poetry to the way that he narrates his meaty to show. And if you haven't seen many episodes of that show, randomly go watch one, pick one out, like I think it's on Netflix, I'm pretty sure. Just pick one out and watch like the first 10 minutes and do it like later this evening, just to like see.

Because he always starts with this beautiful poetic Narrative of like what's happening, but he does it from a Very like grounded masculine arm a hunter Type what but just brings this like beauty to it. Yeah, and I think another thing about Steve is you can definitely tell that he knows What he's talking about like he is very well Versus and all those things. I loved in this show the way he opened it I think it was like just after Christmas or whatever but he was like yeah gonna go do some Some whitetail hunting maybe probably definitely some beaver trap then like he just went off and I was hilarious

It's just such a great way to start the show because I was like, okay, yeah, this guy knows what he's talking about. Yeah. He's super into it. It's all he does. He's so, so freaking passionate about this whole lifestyle. And he's really is eccentric about it. Oh yeah.

Like if you said to him, okay, right. So now you've become famous and you have this money and this fame and these things, but you can, now you just have to live as a famous person. Like you've got your money, you can live in New York. You're just gonna be doing the same show. Or, or, and you can never hunt again. Or you can hunt, but we gotta take all this away. He's like, whoa, I just see ya.

Yeah, he just, yeah. He give all of it up. It just happens to be that it allows him this life to kind of do, you know, with it what he pleases. I thought it was really interesting too in the show. Kind of similar to that, Joe was talking about his, like, priority in his life that hunting is for him. And he was like, yeah, I've pretty much gone

to a place right now where I can kind of get it to where I want and hunting is like definitely a big part of his life at the moment right now. And you can tell that he prioritizes that. And also Joe knows his shit about hunting. I mean, especially, you know, compared to someone like Steve who you can tell is like,'s what he does like that's just him he's hunter like Joe as well knows all of his shit Intel it he's clearly done a lot of it and he is also passionate about it well Steve was the first person I ever take him hunting and also really okay somebody I know called Dan Dodie who's part of the reason I ended up moving up to Bozeman. So I heard Dan on Joe's podcast because he was on it many years ago.

He was also somebody that was a part of me, Tita, and worked with Steve Rinaloa. He was the producer of that show, or one of the producers, and became obviously friends with Joe and went on Rogan and talked about these men's group things that he'd put together, that originated kind of here in Bozeman and he was just kind of pushing that on Rogan show while they also kind of talked about all the fun times of hunting together. Well it happened to be that a good friend of mine, Sean, healthy who I do another podcast with, knew this guy. Well, it basically worked with him, was in the men's group with him. And I was like, hey, this guy sounds interesting. That's cool that he knows Joe and he took him hunting. I'd love to meet him. I flew up here,

hanging out with my friend Sean, but also to meet him, ended up starting my own men's group back in Santa Monica, because I like the idea of it, like the theory and the processing and like it's kind of like quite big up here in Montana as well, which is like you wouldn't think that because it's like you think it's Yellowstone up here, just like a bunch of angry farmers. But there's like, there's strength, but then there's also like, a caring like, you know, philosophy that is in the culture as well. Yeah. It's a bunch of things.

Yeah. That's what I like about hunting, too, is like, I have to admit, I've never hunted before, but I do see, I've met a lot of people in Bozeman who hunt and everything, and there is a bit of that like manly testosterone of like going out and like tapping in with your primal state and all that shit. But then there's also a like a big part of that is people are just like trying to provide for their families. And they're like, listen, man, like my, uh, at a professor at school and, um,

Like my, uh, I had a professor at school and, um, he, he got like an elk and a couple deer this year. And he was like, uh, yeah, my whole, my whole garage is filled with meat or whatever. But I was like, that's cool. I was, I just jokingly just pissed him off. I was like, you know, like grocery stores exist, right? And he was like, he was like, fuck you. I got like 25 hundred pounds of meat for $93. And I was like, you know, I get you. I got like 25 hundred pounds of meat for $93.

And I was like, you know, I get that. That makes sense. Yeah, and it's grass-fed meat. Great meat. It's fucking is organic as it gets. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah. You gotta do some hard shit to get to it.

It's not easy at all. I mean, the fact that he got that many is like, that guy knows what he's doing. Oh, yeah. No doubt. That's hard to do and that takes a long time to learn it. But yeah. El problema que ha hecho eso es que eso es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos altamente cualificados y formados. Descubre Motrio, tu taller para todo lo que necesitas. Encuentra tu taller, Motrio más cercano en talleres.motrio.es. Si necesitas un taller de garantía para tu coche, Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca

sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos altamente cualificados y formados. Descubre MOTRIO, tu taller para todo lo que necesitas. Encuentra tu taller MOTRIO más cercano en talleres.motrio.es. what it takes to make, imagine if you landed on a fucking desert island and you had to make a burger. Number one, go kill the animal, right? And then you grind it up and that's kind of the easy bit. How the fuck do you make bread on a desert island? Oh yeah. A bun?

You're gonna grow some wheat, grind it up, find some other shit, get a chicken, like somehow get an egg. I don't know. Salt. Good luck. You've got a Minecraft that's just hard, man. Going out to kill a cow and all that stuff. That's like work, man. Gross some salad in that.

I need to forget about it. How do you make a sauce? How many ingredients are in that? I don't know. We're gonna find water. I don't even know what pepper it's crazy from. No, it's cool too. I like, so I come from a little bit of like outdoors background as well.

I'm big into like backpacking and hiking and all that stuff, which is a completely different realm than the hunting side. But you need all of that shit. You need to be able to like either bring food or be able to get food yourself. You need to eat. You need to figure out water, water filtration, where you're going to stay. Like most of the guys who hunt, they have like a emergency bivvy or like whatever it is.

You know, you gotta hang out there. You gotta feed in a tree where you sleep in. Not only the bear, like the bear side of things is crazy. Like when you're backpacking, you're like, oh yeah, I'll just, you know, cook here. And then I'll make like a little, I'll set up my tent, like 100 down, 100 yards down, wind, and then you store your food

and other hundred, so you make this little triangle or whatever, and then you store your food in another hundred, so you make this little triangle or whatever. But when you kill an animal in the wild, and you have to gut it, and then drag this massive animal across the woods, hang it, come back to it later with ATVs or whatever, or you're one of those people who strap it to your back and carry like 150 pounds of meat on your back. Fucking Cameron Haynes style. And then you have to worry about bears.

It's like, okay, it's very different, like having all of your shit sealed up in a bear canister when you're backpacking versus carrying around a hundred pound raw flesh part of an animal. It's like, that makes you a big target of bears and stuff, so it's like, it's crazy. Yeah. I honestly am glad that animals are so fucking afraid of us. Because think about it like this, right?

You're leaving the woods, you've got a quarter of an elk on your back. And now you take away all the fear of animals. Like an eagle just looks at that and goes, oh, I could pick that dumb monkey. Just flies down. They could just fly at us and hit us, probably not. Forget about it with mountain lions. You wouldn't even know they were coming. They'd kill you a second. And then every single bear would kill you. Why are any of them afraid of us? It's almost like a memo needs to go out and they're like, yeah, these guys are, once they're in the woods, they're idiots. You can just kill all of them and eat them all. Yeah, pretty

much, but they don't. It's actually quite rare for it to happen. It's crazy. Yeah, you need to have like some open season type of shit, you know, to have like a situation like that where the hunters are actually in danger, but it would be like the new purge movie It's like they've ran out of things like plots for it because they're on purge five and now it's just animals One day a year all the animals attack humans and we're just like Even bad, we'd be fucked. Dude, a house cat is a pain in the ass when they're really pissed off. If you ever tried holding a really pissed off house cat. You can't.

They scratch you. Yeah, you're gonna get destroyed. You throw it at the wall and it wouldn't even probably hit the wall, but like, slammed with its feet on the wall and then it just scratched your eyeballs until you just panic. Yeah, it's fucking, it's crazy scary out there.

And it's amazing. And Steve has been through some of the kind of hairiest, scariest shit. They didn't talk about it a lot on this show, but I mean, you hear it a bunch. And I saw a video the other day where Joe was talking about Steve, and he was like, they put over the video of him, I guess they just killed an elk

and they were doing something with it or whatever, but a bear followed them or whatever. And they, him, Steve, and whoever he else he was hunting with had to take down a bear with their fucking rifles. Like, while it's charging at them, can you imagine? Oh, Jesus. A giant, like, huge bear is charging at you,

and your only line of defense is your, like, a gun that you have with you, and you have to hit it or else you're dead. It's like, it's crazy. It's absolutely mental. You gotta think statistically. Let's say you had a hang gun, right? And so I do have a glock, I have a glock 40, which is, I think it's called that,

or a glock, I can't remember. Is it you 10-mill or not? 10-mill. Okay, yeah, yeah. So it's like the one for bears, right? If you have four-metal jackets. If you're fucking lucky, too. But that's my point, right?

I have never fired it, Sean. Not once. Oh, you dumbass. So I haven't even practiced it. I haven't even practiced it., not once. Oh, you dumbass. So I haven't even practiced. I haven't even practiced it. Well, I'll go, I'll go, but I haven't. Okay, I haven't had it that long either. But I haven't practiced, I've never shot it ever.

And even if I shoot, like how many rounds do you need to shoot to get like good with a hang-gun? Pray a lot. A lot. And now you add bare running out. And like I don't even, I think even if you're good with a hang-gun, pray a lot. A lot. And now you add bear running out. And I don't even, I think even if you're good with a hang-gun, you're not like shooting many yards. No.

Like they're just not good for that. Like you want to rye for for like any sort of distance. Hang-guns are just kind of shitty, really, unless you're in a house. That's like the last line of defense pretty much. Yeah, like you're machine gun jams, so you pull your shitty pistol out. So okay, so it's running at you, you're scared, you're shaky anyway, it's like statistically, the smartest move might be shoot yourself in the head.

Cause then you're not gonna miss. And you're gonna really save yourself from being molded to death. Yeah, and the unfortunate thing about getting killed by a bear is mostly joking first. Well, yeah, but no, I mean, you do raise a fair point because like when a bear kills you, like mountain lions are like, it's not pretty. It's not pretty.

Like mountain lions will like go for your neck and try and like kill you first or whatever. Bears don't give a fuck. They'll just put their like giant ass hand all their weight on your chest. They just eat you ass first. Whatever part of your body they want first. Like, this leg looks juicy. I'll take a little bit of that. What, meanwhile, you're alive,

screaming for your life and like, you're fucked. Yeah, you're fucked. And you just have to wait until you finally, either you bleed the death or, you know, you get knocked out. It's the one time having a huge dong isn't an advantage in life. That looks great.

Then you're like, no! Hulk! Yeah. Dude. But you know, and this is something that people kind of forget. Like my family in England, for example, we all grow up vegetarian.

So you can imagine they're not being a hunting, right? Of course. And they don't even really hunt there for the most part. Like you can do it, but it's nothing like you. It's very hard to do. So they see this as this very like, of course, and they don't even really hunt there for the most part like you can do it But it's nothing like you very hard to see this is this very like you know barbaric American for even though I throw out some philosophies to it like hey We have really good land management. We pay into it like it really takes care of this thing You know all of nature and blah blah blah like blah. Like you can, there's, there's real value to these arguments, but it, they come, there comes a point where people just block it out.

They're just like, no, bad, don't care. And then I can tell, I just, it doesn't matter how I finesse this across to them, they're not feeling it at all. But what they don't realize, and no one takes into account what they don't hunt, is that level of danger that is like kind of always that. Yeah. I mean, a moose will fuck you up, dude.

Oh, moose will fuck you up. Real bad. Yeah. No, and then another thing too, that's insane to think about like going back to the whole backpacking versus hunting thing is like, when you hike on like a public trail, you know, you're like, oh, I'll have a nice hike with my family or whatever. And you bring your bear spray because you're concerned.

It's like, when you're hunting, you're not following a trail. You're bushwhacking, you know, you're going through public land openly like because on a trail, if there's a bunch of people who make a bunch of noise, the bears are probably not going to bother that. They're going to be like, oh, that's noisy area. I don't want to be over there. Yeah, it stinks. It just avoid it. It stinks like monkeys over there. They're gonna be like, oh, that's noisy area. I don't wanna be over there. Yeah, it stinks. It just avoids it.

It stinks like monkeys over there. They'll avoid it. They'll avoid it, yeah. But you're going in the middle of the woods. You have no idea where the bears are or anything for that matter, you know? It's just like pure instinct of that. You just trip over a back hub and you look around

and you're like, I need to shoot myself. You're like, this is how I die, yeah. It's tough, man. It's just such a another level of complexity I thought another like an interesting thing that they were talking about in the show and I think that something that will be useful to kind of outline to people is like the type of hunting that they're doing so it sounds like in this episode that they're I think they're in

Texas and that they have someone that they know has a big amount of private land that they're able to get out of. It's one of the really big Texas ranch hunts. So they don't have a lot of public land in Texas. That's okay. The downside to hunting in Texas is that if you don't know anyone and you don't have a lot of money, there's not a lot of public land. en Texas, es que si no no sabes a alguien y no hay mucho dinero, no hay mucho público. Pero es probablemente todo el mundo. Ahora, hay un gran plan de privado que se ha estado muy bien, pero hay que saber a Si necesitas un taller de garantía para tu coche, Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos altamente cualificados y formados.

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es como una gran plana de hambre, por supuesto. Sí, como si puedes combinar con un guay, It sounds like amazing land to hunt on for sure. Yeah, as well as if you can combine that with a guide who kind of knows the area and knows the wildlife and everything, which for most people who are hunting your average Joe, they're not gonna be able to get like private lands somewhere. Maybe you live somewhere like in Montana, for example, which you're really lucky to and they have a lot of

private land that you can hunt on and stuff, but yeah, I mean to have public land. for example, which you're really lucky to and they have a lot of private land that you can hunt on and stuff but Yeah, I mean to have public where public land. I'm sure yeah, yeah, no, I understand the hunt on you We have a lot of in mind. There's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot and But there's also a increasing amounts of private places like I don't know if you're familiar with Ted Turner He's like a giant bazillionaire and I think he owns the most land in the US Or whatever, but some giant guy if you live in Montana you probably have heard of him He owns a lot of private land out here and a lot of it you can hunt on but you better know him or someone in him

You have to give permission to do that stuff. Oh, yeah, and he's probably not giving no No, no, no, and there's a lot of there's a lot of places where they'll just like own massive Lots of land and then they'll either they they'll like Let their friends hunt or family or whatever, but it's like a very small circle So it sounds like that's what this is and then you know In their case, they're lucky enough to have a guide that's familiar with the landscape probably a little bit of the wildlife and everything and so it's like

Well, even with Steve's knowledge, which is massive and pretty diverse like he's hunted in a lot of areas You still will find somebody in Each area that even probably Steve goes to that will Know quite a lot more than Steve will. It's like Steve can, you know, join the, like, bring the gaps together quickly just by like, oh yeah, yeah, no, no, I got to, I see, hear what you're saying, or I've heard that before, or I get the gist of this, but, but, oh yeah, that's interesting. I wouldn't have gone about it that way.

Yeah. You know, those saying that, I'm sure Steve is that guy for Montana. I'm sure he is. Yeah, I'm sure he, there probably wouldn't be a better person to take out here. But yeah, as he goes other places, I mean, my friend, a buddy of mine called Skippy,

is in, on the East Coast, Big Hunter, he's like hunted just about everything. Yodo's house, and it's like a taxi doing, I mean, havin'. I mean, it's pretty amazing, but his passion for it is like,

he goes out to Africa and does some hunts out there, and I know they're very controversial, for a lot of that type of hunting, but he goes out there and does those, and he's just like a purist for it. It's just across the board. This is what he wants to do. Goes everywhere.

And when he does it, almost always gets guides. Unless he's in his own area. Like when he's doing tree stands for deer with bow on their east coast, like he knows that. He's a professional at that, but he doesn't pretend he is when he goes anywhere else, gets the right people to go with him. That's kind of what you want to do, and there's a lot of moves. Because otherwise, you're going to fuck it up. Yeah, you're going to fuck it up, you're going to be wasting time,

and you're not going to have as good of a time in general. You can injure animals for a short period of time. And it's also, you might even identify the wrong animal. Oh yeah. Because you're not used to which ones you're looking at. And that breaks kind of all the codes of hunting if you fuck that up. Oh yeah.

It's also really helpful for areas where guiding is like, really big, like people who guide, most of the time, what they'll do, whether it's a fishing guide, hunting guide, whatever it is, they'll have some sort of a day job out of season So if you're like a raft guide in the winter you have some sort of day job Like I met I worked with this guy who worked at a and produce and of course you saw around here And he would do that in the winter and then in the summer

He would make most of his money throughout the year guiding and that's what they do and they live in this same area For a large period of their life. And they're very, very comfortable where they are. They know all the good spots. They're very helpful, very knowledgeable, and everything. And it's like, if you're going to a specific area and you want to have, and you have the money for one,

but you also want to have a much more overall, just better experience is higher guide, higher someone who knows the area, who can show you all these different things, who is very well versed in all of the native things in that area, and they can help you. And regardless of how good of a hunter you are in general, it's always helpful to have someone like that who kind of just knows more specifically where you are and everything

like that who kind of just knows more specifically where you are and everything like that. For sure. And it also promotes and encourages the whole network of fun things. It helps those people out. And what I've found all the time is that those guides, whether they're raft guides, hunting guides, whatever kind of guides, zip line guides, whatever the fuck, those are really cool people most of the time. They're really down to earth people who are just kind of like, they're just kind of like bum around and figure out whatever they need to like sustain their thing, but then when they're

guiding, that's what they love doing. And that's their thing. It's to watch anyone be passionate of their job is cool. Even if someone's like a professional origami person, I don't give a shit if you're not in the origami at all. Do you see someone really passionate about what they're doing? Like they love it. It kind of brings you in. Oh yeah. So it's cool that this whole environment

of outfitters and hunting guides and outdoors people, they're all like that. Same thing with all the ski slopes. Oh yeah, it's a great community. That's a great community. And snowboarding community is so great. Nobody's fucking calling in that job. It's not Walmart. You don't work at an enterprise rental company or a car wash.

Like, you're most likely not a lazy fuck. You love a certain thing that you do and you're trying to find a way to make money off of that and be able to keep doing that. That's awesome. You probably sacrificed a lot to get to that point. Yeah. It's really cool though. I thought that, yeah, it sounded like the guy that they went with

Joe in the episode. It sounds like they had a great guide and they had a good time. I thought it was also really interesting. They talked a lot about the differences in bow hunting, versus rifle hunting and the whole sides of things. So I'm curious, when you hunt, what are you hunting with? And maybe you could go to the hunting.

I primarily go bow hunting. Yeah, but I'll do right. Like since I've been up here, When you hunt what are you hunting with I? Primarily go Oh, yeah, okay, I really but I'll do right like since I've been up here. I've gone on more rifle hunts than I ever had before Yeah, and you before that the most with guns I would do is shotgun and bird Okay, that makes sense and dove hunting you're not hitting a feather But no good luck. Yeah. I mean, so it's like, bow, I just find just fascinating the whole process. I don't mind how hard it is. I don't mind that it takes forever to learn and the yield is super low. Like it's like, I just commit to feeling like it's more rewarding. I think it's going to be so much more rewarding when you finally are holding a piece of meat

knowing that, yeah, I mean, there's a lot more to it on the, on the, on the bow. It's pretty crazy. But it's all really cool and interesting. And while I'm up here, I don't know how long I live in Montana. It might be a long time. It might be a short time, but I'm not going to assume either one and I'm going to take advantage of it really any type of hunting that I can do. You know, I even went out bare, but no, bare rifle early in the season. So, we got on a few bears, then we could have got close enough

to shoot. And, you know, it just didn't quite sit with me. Yeah. Right. There's something about, I don't know. I don't want to overthink it, but I'm like, fucking. Yeah. It was that it was not 13 year old birthday party that you had a build a bear workshop. The whole time while you were out there in the woods, you were just thinking about that little bear that you guys were in there. Like I can't. Yeah, I just can't. It's like the jungle book cartoon. Yeah, he's just so cuddly and cute. It is great. Yeah. There was just something beautiful and powerful about like, don't get me wrong, it wasn't like a shot that I had

that I chose not to take. It's like most of the bears that we came up on that we could have got a shot with, after a while of kind of stalking with them, we would see that they have a cub with them. And that's like, you can't, you're not allowed to. Yeah, you can't shoot anything. What you wouldn't want to anyways,

you know, you should demolish the cub. I was in the cub, like, yeah, but I to anyways, you know, you should have a mom in the cup. It was in the cup. Yeah, but I was just, you know, there were moments before that where for like a good amount of time, we didn't see a cup. So I don't know what the ethical ground there is. It's like how long are you supposed to wait? If you shoot the bear, then the cup presents itself.

It's like, what do you do in that situation? Too bad. Yeah. I don't know. It's like, what do you do in that situation? Too bad. Yeah. I don't know. It's like, it's bad. You would feel bad. You would feel bad. But I remember thinking even before that, it was like,

I'm about to shoot this. I don't know. I just feel like a deer is like this, this powerful apex predator, there's like far less of them than the raw, the deer. And I don't know why I was thinking about it this way. It was just like, I'm just telling you how it was and I was like I kind of Think that I can do elk better. Yeah, you know, and I've heard that when you kind of hang up the bears to and you're good It looks like a big strong person

Skinned which is no that would be creepy as fuck. Yeah, it's not a weird. Yeah, it's like what am I a super serial killer? You get home pissed drunk one night and you walk through your garage and you're like, oh shit. Yeah, I forgot to you killed a bear the other day. Exactly. That would be, that would not be fun. Somebody at my, at the Boseman hospital, he had told me that who's like life long hunter, you know, he's like old guy now, you with special forces like way back in the day. I mean, this guy's a badass.

10. Good old 10 this guy's a badass. 10. Good old 10. Shout out to 10. But yeah, he loves hunting and loves that I'm getting into it knowing very little on the English, you know, because it's like, yeah, you're sold on the American way. I'm like, yeah, yeah, great. And he was telling me that you can shoot the bears,

like sometimes, done a lot of bad hunting, and he goes, they die like a human, which is a creepy thing to say. Yeah, Tim. It is. Because it tells me quite a lot about what you know. How would you know? How would you know?

But when you're a special forces guy, you probably, I would imagine all of them have killed people like that. I feel like that's a reasonable excuse to pull up. You know, if you were just a plumber, I'd be like, well, how do you know that? Yeah. If you're like a clown at a birthday party, that's a big lie. That's a big lie. Hold on. We're going to have to yell this guy. Yeah. But yeah, he's like, they, you know, they could sit there. They make like a bit of a

uh, yeah, squealing noise. And then it's like a lot of breathing. And it's just like even their motion of like how they move. And it's, it's, it's a lot. Whereas if you, because dear, they're like set up, or L, because set up so much different than a horse. You're not, they're not somewhat lost. They're just flopping around in a weird way. And then you're like, I can deal with this. It's not great, but I can deal with this.

I can. So I think mentally, there might be some better animals. Also, bear meat, I know Steven L. likes it. He talked about it on this one. Pretty hard to cook though, isn't it? Yeah, well, I mean, you gotta cook the shit out of it. Yeah, it's cosy. So the parasites, you gotta just stew it forever, basically.

The one really good thing from that is you get a lot of the town like the fat Render a lot of bear fat which is useful and really good to add to other meets and Game me you know elk me whatever. It's like good to have that fat the best thing though that Steve Rinales ever tried the best meat ever The best thing though, that Steve Rinaloa has ever tried the best meat ever, he says, and this is not on this podcast, but another one, and why listening to meat eaters sometimes has some gems, is a black bear that's been foraging on blueberries. And I guess there's certain black bears and certain areas to do this. And the meat, he said said was like almost purple.

Wow. Purple, wow. Well, because of all the fucking, that's pretty crazy. Blue in the berries. That's interesting. Yeah, I imagine that and it tasted animal lives from certain regions

depending on what they eat. You know, it's the same with like chicken. Like if you get a chicken that's bread and a cage or whatever versus a like free range of what. You're gonna taste a difference. Well, they say you don't wanna really eat bemmy right after the salmon spawn thing. Oh, yeah.

Cause what they've been doing is eating that salmon. And it's like- But that's the easiest time to hunt bears because you know, you go up to Alaska and you hunt during salmon spawnings. He's in the bears, look at the fuck about you. Yeah, they're just sad. They're just like, no, hello, you know, they don't care.

Sadder at the top of a waterfall. Yeah, they're just that is fuck. Yeah, you would not want to shoot one though in the water. No, that's not that bitch out of that. No. I mean, best case scenario, it gets like caught in a rock. And then you can like drag it to shore or whatever, but like that's huge. It depends. There's no way.

Maybe they float. So if they float, you could just like, hopefully, they float. If not, hopefully it's like a shallow enough creek that you could just like drag it or whatever, but yeah, that would be tough. I don't think that would be the way to go. It'd be a real problem.

You know, that would suck if you like shot it and then it like, you know, fell off of a waterfall or something, you're like, well, fuck. Never gonna get that back, you know. I heard about some people shooting in moose and like shooting in water or like rolled into some water. And then it, yeah, with nightmare. Like that thing's like 2,000 pounds.

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Si necesitas un taller de garantía para tu coche, Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca ¿No te imagino lo que hace a mí después de eso? No sé, no sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. No sé si lo que hace a mí es que no me hagas. I don't know, not to mention what it does to the meat after that, you know, like I don't

know if getting soaked in the water has anything to do with the meat. Oh, no, because in there, you know, I mean, if you're like separating it in there, but that pray just cleans it up. Probably, yeah, probably easier. Yeah, it's like a dirty puddle, you might have to be a bit more concerned, some joddy of meat, maybe. Dude, the funniest thing, this is a weird tangent, but when I was in high school, I used to do rowing and I lived in Florida and the lake that we used to row on was like right next to the airport. And so we would, it was the most disgusting lake in the world.

It was so gross. You couldn't see, like if you put your hand in the water and you lowered it like six inches under the water, you couldn't see your hand anymore. It was disgusting, but it was right close to the airport. So we used to joke about it, about how the fish were like jet-powered fish. I was like, yeah, they were like three eyes. Three eyes.

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. But there was so many alligators and shit in that lake. It was gross. It was crazy. It was pretty wild. Like, can you see your hand? Was it just like the so murky algae? Yeah, but what happens is,

Lillipads will grow and then they'll die eventually and then they'll go to the bottom of the lake and then they just become this like murky dust or whatever and so it just makes the whole lake disgusting. Not all lakes in Florida are like that. There are some that are pretty clean, and like, if you go to a spring, it's pretty clean, but our lake was disgusting. But yeah, we used to joke about how they used to have all the fish were like jet powered

and the alligator's and stuff, because it was so close to the airport. guarantee there was some talks in this. It was disgusting, yeah. I would not have jumped in that lake without like some serious protection. Yeah talking about that my Like I said early in my body skipping he when I first met him He just flown down to Florida to go on a like a gator hunt. Oh, yeah, that's pretty bad It's pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah We used to yeah, we used to run into some people while we were rowing that would do that and stuff

And they and they were They were a different breed man. They were tough because you can't like the way that they do it I think is they like hook them in somehow drag them closer to the boat and then the whole idea is you have to get them on They're back to shoot them. I don't know where you shoot them But they're or not they're back. They're stomach to shoot them Their back is like full of like crazy or not they're back, they're stomach to shoot them. Their back is like full of crazy, they're like dinosaurs pretty much. So their back is just full of these crazy,

real short scales. Because I watched the video of how he did it and then we all had that. Maybe, I don't know, I might be talking in my ass, but that is the softest spot. It was just floating on the water. Oh yeah. And then he just like pointed to where it's brain probably. I imagine if you use a strong enough gun

You can get through that, but yeah, it's a lot harder to kill them on their back because they have those like scales It makes sense. Yeah, they are dinosaurs. Yeah, they're tough. They're crazy though Because you could imagine shooting one of those big turtles in the shell and it wouldn't even It wouldn't do shit. Yeah, you would imagine shit. Yeah, I mean even wouldn't do shit. Yeah, you would imagine shit. Yeah, I mean, it's about his off-short cheer. You like, yeah. Like now I see what these bastards live like 150 years. Yeah, just bleed out. Exactly. You get like a blue one and then it like, you know, like Mario Kart, it just blows you up or whatever. What are you? What I really also love about just hunting in general and all the people that like Renella

goes hunting with on his media show, it's like the age range is phenomenal. It's almost like it's a lifelong journey to one of those and Rogan loves those things, like jujitsu comedy it's things where there's like that it takes a long fucking time to get really really good at it and therefore when you're there it's undeniable it's like chess you can't go to a chess tournament and bullshit your way through you can't go to a jujitsu tournament and bullshit your way to the end right you could kind of do it in in plenty of other areas of life. You can kind of bullshit, at least for a while,

but these disciplines really quickly, you're just like, yeah, this fucking guide knows nothing about this. Hunting is the same way. And what's nice about it too is you can kind of do those into old age as well. Like even you get to of all the martial arts and it's a very effective one, one of the best anyway. You can probably

train that one the latest in life because it's more of a ballet, you know. It's more of a dance and a strength. It's not striking. Yeah, it's like non-masculine word, but it is kind of a dance. It's a bit like that. Right. It's more like chess. Right. It's just like positioning, movement, you know, you work within your capabilities, but it's, it's not requiring you to have like massive endurance, lots of strength, super fast reflexes, which a lot of martial arts do require. The best resources experience. You really it is. It really is. And really is. Hunting is the same way.

And obviously, when people get real old, they can't go by hunting in the same way because the output is so much more, I guess they could pay, have those outfits as with them. And they can kind of make it a little bit easier. But then they can go back to rifle hunting and some easier hunts. And you can still do it really pretty late in life. And it's just such a huge passion for so many people. That's what intrigues me. I think it's pretty cool. I definitely respect the culture of hunting. Like I said, compared to backpacking, it makes backpacker sound like bitches. You know, so it's very, very cool.

But yeah, I think it's cool too, as you say you've hunted your whole life and you get to an age where you can't bow hunt anymore, whatever it's like, by that point, you're probably gonna figure out what you wanna hunt anyways. And hopefully you made it young enough that you had the opportunity to do this stuff that you wanted to do when I had a young enough age.

But by the time you're old and you've been doing it your whole life, you're just gonna stick to what you like. Like you're gonna go bird hunting or I don't know shit. But like you're gonna do whatever you like that you're still capable of doing, that's still engaging to you or whatever. So it is cool through the technology of like modern rifles and stuff that you have a wide variety of age groups that can participate.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah, 100%. And you know, another thing they bring up is like stress in the animal when it's getting killed, right? And like how much cortisol or adrenaline is like looking for a system when they kill the animal and like how that affects the meat and they talked about that pig being trapped in the snack. Oh, yeah, and how it was like unedible compared to one that they

brains it's like that could be real. Yeah, and it could also make you think about most of the meat that we eat because most of everything you're eating, I'm sure, is not grass-fed, grass-finished like, killed at the same farm and done pretty humanely with people that give a shit. It's squashed into a giant machine somehow that you don't even want to know how it got killed. And, you know, there is a big difference. There's pork chops that I've had that I'm like, I hate pork, I never want to eat it again. And there's other pork chops I've had where I'm like, oh my God, is that the same animal? Yeah, no, it's crazy.

Like, are you fucking kidding me? That's the same animal. Yeah, and I feel like any time that someone offers me, like, game me, or anything that was, like, hunted and killed, I'm like, this is miles better than any shit you're gonna buy at the grocery store. It's so much better. You know, you don't, like, they advertise on like, modern meat that you can eat.

It's like, no antibiotics or whatever. It's like, no, I literally killed this in the forest. Like, it's a totally different realm. It's like, no antibiotics. This fucking thing didn't even see a human being as well. Until I killed it. Yeah, it's like, it's totally different. Yeah, it's crazy.

But I think it's cool in that sense. sense and I do that was an interesting bit though about like how How how you kill an animal can it like change the flavor of the meat in some way You remember this is like mostly anecdotal and who knows right Steve even kind of brought that up the end He's like look people don't the other also pushback people have told me about awful ways that other animals have died and the meats the same and You don't have to do like double blind probably and that would be a quick way of doing it and it's sad Experiment because you'd have to like have animals that died in awful ways. I mean, I guess if you don't facilitate it and it happens accidentally You can just harvest it real quick. Yeah.

You're like, all right, try all this. That could be tough. But it makes sense that it could be like that. I mean, I think it makes sense. I mean, if you think about the biology of how different neurotransmitters are released during, you know, when you get into those like, fight or flight responses and like, all of those things are released throughout the bloodstream and the muscles and all that stuff.

And you have just like this excess amount of energy in the body. Like when you're in those high states. I think technically, I don't think that technically considered toxins, but they are pretty bad for you. So cortisone, adrenaline, all the ones that cause you to like be able to react very quickly. Focus,

eyes dilate, you know, your blood constricts, like your breathing changes, like your fucking heightened, like you're ready to like survive. Like it has to make a massive change in your system. Almost as extreme as like maybe I don don't know, doing like a bunch of cocaine. Probably. Something very artificial, right? Yeah. And it has to happen instantly. And then afterwards, I think you get like the adrenaline dump, the chemical dump, and then you move on and you do thing. But that takes a lot longer. In today's life, though, because we don't really get attacked by lions, we just do things

like we forget our cell phone, and then we forget to pay this bill, and then someone yells at us in traffic. We're at low level adrenaline dump spike, stress, cortisol all day, and that's when it becomes really bad to have those chemicals just constantly in your system. Yeah, I think it's interesting though,

like you said the last part is like, our, not, not, we're not fighting lions anymore. So like all of those weird Like stressed released hormones that we get are like in our everyday lives like they're not necessary You know like oh shit someone didn't like they responded terribly to my email. Oh no my life is gonna And it's like it's really not But you still get that same stress response from a lot of things that you bring up. I'll push back against that though, because people say that it's like,

oh, it's not necessary to be like, you know, a strong male figure in today. And it's like, well, yeah, we're not walking around with spears, defending the village. But if we do the things that promote that, then we just feel better as men, like working out a lot,

or competing against other men. There is a balance to it. But it's in us anyway. It's almost like saying, oh, we don't need those chemicals. Well, we kind of do when we do need to react quickly. We just don't need to react to those things that way, and how we minimize that is by fucking working out all the time, react a los cosas, como que, en la forma de minimizar eso, por lo que, por lo que,

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Encuentra tu taller, Motrio más cercano en talleres.motrio.es. So, we just have an access of these compounds in us that are designed to save our lives, that we're not using because we live in a safe environment. Yeah, that's what I was saying is like, not, they're not, it's not that these compounds aren't necessary, but to the amounts that we use them for such trivial things in our life as modern, you know, people and, and, and, and, and, which should be the indicator that you are not either working out enough,

running enough, which is half the, but you have to have that XS. If you get an email or a text from your lover or like these little things are like really fucking bothering you, I guaranteed it's that you're just not going to be. You don't have an outlet for that. Yeah, you're not burning this. And I think having an outlet for that is important. And I think what I was kind of trying to say is that like, you know, assuming that you

don't have an outlet for that and those things aren't used properly is like in modern day, like say you're some tech bro in New York or whatever, is like you don't work out at all. You make so much money that you don't have to worry about it or whatever, that's not a priority. But you're like, fuck this stock is down. And then you're just like, you have like a heart race

and you have all these hormones pumping through you and stuff and it's like, it's really not that big of a deal. Your life is not threatened in any way but you're still having this stress response. And then if you're doing that multiple times a day on excess and that's all that you're getting, it's like that's when it can kind of be damaging to you.

Not the people who work out on a regular basis and use that as a right right I'm like the stock up sets you so you turn around to your mini-bother you have in your office You're so bowling you're like well clearly. I need to hit that buffalo trace And that's the closest nature that you technically get yeah, or you go haywire on your assistant And you're like god damn it Jessica never wear that again. You know, you're like freaking out over some stupid thing, you know?

Is this a fucking skimmed latte? This is whole milk. Yeah, you go all Patrick Bateman on that but whatever I can help. Yeah, oh, I this so much of that happening. There's so many people you can see around you. And this is why Joe get like, once he got into hunting and saw it and felt it

and loved it, he's like, oh my God, I need this. Because he was in Hollywood as a famous person. And he's like, oh, I see people all the time that are living so separate to nature or just like a natural way of existing. It's like they're stressed about this thing and that thing or they're like talking your ear off about the Prince Harry Meghan Markle book.

Who does a fucking book? And I'm just like, look, I know I'm the only English person that you know, but trust me I'm only being polite by nodding my head and pretending to listen to this. It's like yeah some of the story is kind of like interesting because obviously he's had like a very privileged wacky life right he's a prince but I still don't care. Yeah I still don't care. And it doesn't affect you. It doesn't affect your life in any way. I've got some interesting stories to tell.

It's like one guy. Well, you're worrying about all this other bullshit in the world. You could be grinding somewhere using testosterone in the proper way or whatever. I guess this is more of a like a Goggins way of saying things. But like, while you're bitching about your coworkers doing X, Y, and Z and that gets you fired up,

you could get yourself fired up in the gym. Go for a run, you fat fuck. You know, like you was that properly. Use it the way that it's supposed to be you. Don't fucking waste all of your hormones on bullshit things. It's 100% true, man. And I also, I think Joe talks about it too. Like, eating that type of food as well,

like, almost gives him more kind of virality. Even if there's no science behind that at all, and it doesn't affect his hormones to whatever, placebo, whatever it is, it makes him more satisfied, and that's what gets him fired up, that's all that matters. But think about it, like I said earlier, instead of throwing that meal away, throwing that whole burger away because you didn't make it, you didn't give a fuck about it. You have this food on your plate.

Maybe it's jalapenos, maybe it's eggs, maybe it's an Elk steak. You have chickens, you grew the jalapenos, and you killed that meat. There's the most satisfying. You're not. You're the massive satisfaction. You are correct. It's like if you build tables, and you're eating on your dining room table

and it's yours, it's like that table is different now. Yeah. It means a lot more to you. And like, maybe that's just an overall like positive reinforcement that comes back in. I mean, cooking with this food is hard. And that's another really cool thing that Rinalda does is he probably makes as far as I can think the best, the best like cook books for wild game. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I was, they were talking about Todd to cook with.

I can't remember what the name of the grill was, but they were talking about a specific grill in the episode that I, when I went. Oh, a Tragas? Yeah, when I went back to, I went to see, like, kind of the other side of my family for Thanksgiving or whatever, and they had this huge addition to this house that has been in my family for whatever, but they bought one of these grills, and we cooked a brisket on it, and dude, it's amazing. It's mind-blowing. You can plug the probe in to the grill directly, and then you can plug it into the steak.

You can, like, automatically adjust the amount of pellets that you need to keep the temperature the same way. And then there was another, I think it was the same probe that they were talking about in the episode, in the podcast, but it was like a probe. You put in the stake or whatever it is. You put in the middle, connect to your phone. It gives you an estimation of when it's going to be done.

You put in how well you want it done or whatever. And then it's like, oh yeah, in 22 minutes, your brisket's gonna be done. You're like, holy shit, how does another, it's crazy. Dude, that is the shit, think about it. In the morning, you wake up, you get your coffee, you turn your tray around, you put this fucking beautiful slab of meat that you've been defrosting

in the fridge overnight, old for two days. You just slap it and then go to work. And it turns it off. When it's done. And then when you get home, it's all closed and then, it's outside, then you've just got the most amazing type of, and this is the beautiful thing about meat, right? You can do a lot of veggies to make them taste good,

but veggies are like blah, blah, blah, whatever. But you can do some good things, but it's mostly a lot of spices and things. With meat, it's not so much. Like a good steak, it only needs blah, whatever. But you can do some good things. It's mostly a lot of spices and things. With meat, it's not so much. Like a good steak, it only needs salt and pepper. But you get a good brisket, it's like, yeah, you start adding stuff to that. More importantly, you cook the meat the right way,

which is always what it's about. How many pieces of dry ass chicken have you had in your life, the way you're like, what does anyone eat chicken? Too many. Dude, if you cook chicken the right way, and it's different for different things. I mean, if you have like kind of crispy chicken strips

or whatever, like that, you don't want that moist. You know, all of that should be pretty dry and then you have a dip with it and it's like, you know, you make nuggets, whatever. But then you can have like really moist, you know, uh, brat chicken breast or like you do thighs and then you make them, it's like dude. It's crazy. You can make really any type of meat potentially blow your mind if you cook it the right way. Yeah, it's insane. So many, uh, so many of my friends are like, oh, I don't like me,

I think it's dry or whatever. It's like, fucking Jessica, you don't know how to cook meat, dude. I've seen you, you don't sneeze in it. You don't, you don't see it at all. You just cut it up in the little pieces and fry it. And it's like, that is the worst way to cook chicken. But yeah, you're wasting your time and your money,

eating this bland-ass bullshit. But that's why so many people say, I'm not really into, like, hunted meat or game meat or because they just haven't had to come out. You don't know how to do it, right? Yeah. And not many people really do. And those that have always liked hunting

have just a lot of times just picked that one recipe that they do well and just talked to there. But with Steve's books, I mean, it really helps out. It's cool, because it's a different universe, cooking game meet versus, you know, a good show ball. Well, you gotta know what you do. Yeah, you have to know what you're doing.

And then it's also like, depending on what you want to cook, it's usually like weird, like unless you're doing like a regular steak or something, but like it's not a cow, it's a totally different animal. You're gonna be cooking different amounts, not only different amounts, but different parts of the animal, like different sections,

because it's so much bigger than a cow. And then you have way more meat than you know what to do with, and then you're like, well shit, this is a huge piece of meat, I don't know how long to cook this stuff. Yeah, so what's beautiful about it in a way is an homage to homage to the creature. It's like you have to learn about it. It's not like you just go to the grocery store, you're like that steak. You

don't know where the fuck that came off the cow. But then when you butcher it yourself, take it apart, like do it all, like obviously you got it too. So you have this like love for what you've got, but you also understand what all the different pieces are and how they taste and what to use pieces are and how they taste and what to use for wear and how to do the back straps. And it's kind of pretty fucking cool. It is, yeah. It all goes back to that satisfaction that you get.

When you do it properly and you've gone through all the steps, you've killed the animal, you've properly butchered it and all this stuff is like it's so much more satisfying when at the end of it you've cooked your own shit and it's really good. Yeah, I did this, you know. Yeah, it's cool. It's and this is this is the kind of passion that Steve brings out of people why the media

to the podcast is so good, why he's is so good. And more importantly, how he got Joe Rogan, who's like the biggest advocate for hunting in the country, just because he's so damn popular, into this pursuit. You know, he came into it at like 40 years old. Really? Like, he wasn't a young man when he got into hunting, but he just was interested, contacted Steve, they went up there, and now he doesn't look back.

I mean, it's fascinating, but you need people like Steve, someone with like a real poetry. I never really gave a fuck about food shows until I watch Bourdain, and that passion was undeniable. It just makes you like, into it. I mean, he's probably, but both of these guys

have turned a generation of people into foodies and hunting and hunting. And it can't even know. I think it's cool. And most people that I've met, especially like living in Montana, most people that I meet who hunt and are into that kind of stuff, they're all really, really cool down to earth,

like total just bad asses and they're just out there doing their own thing. Fuck yeah, they're just cool people, man. Yeah, well on that note, I think we're end it. Thanks for listening, check out the meaty the episode 403, Joe Rogan. I think you like it and we appreciate you guys ¡Tienes un like y nos vemos en el próximo video! ¡Pues, ¡ay! Si necesitas un taller de garantía para tu coche, Motrio te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos altamente cualificados y formados. Descubre Motrio, tu taller para todo lo que necesitas.

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