Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 314 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Krystall Ball & Saagar Enjeti Et al.

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

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Love those guys. And good old B-Real legend. B-Real. Insane in the membrane. Let's go. Saying in the brain. So Crystal Ball, Saga, they got into it. Man, I'd like to spend some time with this one.

There was a lot to unpack. Yeah. Breaking points, man. They've got a lot of points. A lot of points. A lot of break. Yeah. I think it's so cool that they moved away from mainstream media because of the limitations. And then they went off on their own, which is probably scary as fuck to do.

And, you know, Joe supported them and said that he thinks it's a good thing to do off they went and now they're just killing it. I mean, they were recently, I think number three or something on the pod charts. Okay. I think it was maybe while Rogum was at the top, obviously, then maybe Hberman, or another pod, I can't remember, then them. Really? That's huge. And that wasn't their pod.

That was for breaking points on YouTube. Yeah, exactly. Breaking points, yeah. Pretty cool. And it's just nice to see a conservative and a liberal together, both talking about things. They can agree on stuff, they can disagree on stuff. It's just the, the rapport that they have is, it's, it's just nice to, to see that they can have those disagreements and not be screaming at each other.

Well, and it's also called to be reminded of what a liberal and a Republican can agree on because they do it often. Like there's a ton of shit that we forget that people all agree on. And you know, instead of just constantly fighting or demonizing the other side, they just kind of try to figure it out. And I also think it kind of points them towards more important issues that are not to say not political, but are things that both interested in and they both see as like a problem for the country as a whole regardless of whatever party. That's what kind of comes across to me when I listen to them.

Of course. And well, in the beauty of independent media, that they're not being told a narrative that they have to talk about because their bosses telling them to talk about it Right, they're picked. They really like well, they had Jeremy Corbyl on recently to talk about the balloons What was that balloons and are we being spoken to? truthfully, I mean obviously Jeremy Leans on he has his own biases, though I love that guy. Yeah. He's always going to lean on the, it's probably an alien side. Mm-hmm.

However, it's just cool that even he gets space to kind of discuss what he knows about that. It's important stuff. Yeah, and the importance is getting it out there though. I think there's still a problem with YouTube, and it's our best kind of point. It's their best spot to go to now in order to get these independent media sources, but there's still the algorithms that we have to worry about. Are these getting out to enough people?

Have they been on enough for them to get out? It looks like they have 877,000 subscribers. That's not that much. I mean, it's a lot, but it needs to be more. Is that right? What, YouTube? That's on their breaking points. Yeah, they have almost, you know, a million subscribers.

Yeah. Well, I mean, 107,000 views in two days on the last episode it looks like. Well, they did talk about YouTube kind of demonetizing them for talking about certain things. And at the end of the day, there are news organizations. The things they're going to talk about are not always going to be positive.

They can't be. It's what the news is. Right. Well, it will be nice to see more people going to these independent sources and hopefully getting correct information that way because there's not somebody telling them the narrative. Yeah, I mean, it looks like Russell Brand has gone over to Bumble almost exclusively.

He still puts out clips on other platforms because that helps him build an audience. Right. But most of what he talks about gets flagged. So he kind of has no choice but to go over that. He has to be on the humble. Mm-hmm. Hey, at least there's an avenue for him to go somewhere. Exactly.

And how important are those avenues, you know, at the end of the day? I mean, massively important. Joe starts off kind of giving them, quote, unquote, the speech. Don't look at the comments. I love it. He always, he does it for everyone. I think that struggles comes in, starts talking about it.

He's seen it before. I'm sure he did it himself, but he's just been around so long that he's like, dude, very little to begin there. Just don't just focus on what you're doing. And that's such an important thing, even if you don't have a podcast or a YouTube channel, any of these things and you're out there listening. But, you know, in regular life, you get this too. You always get people in your circle of existence

that are telling you, you can't do something or you suck at it or whatever. You don't need to listen to them at all. It's hard to do, you know, tired not to take it personally, but as long as you are just practicing, doing your thing, working hard, doesn't matter. Doesn't mean you're that forever. I mean, well, it's going to keep you from doing your best work if you let those comments get to you and it's impossible not to when you read them. If you read a lot of them, the only person that I've ever heard that it fuels is David Goggins and the guy is a savage and a psychopath in the best way. Well, did they talk about that?

Yeah, because he runs with it, right? He runs with the negative comments. I guess he reads them into like a recorder and put some on repeat and runs. Like that, I do not recommend that. It works for him, but he's just a different type of person. He's a maniac. maniac. Love it, but maniac. I could see, I mean, I could see with his personality how that just fuels and more though. I mean, think about how powerful that is. So like, you've got a few options. The best option is always don't look at them. Right. So then you you motivate yourself just to keep going and you don't even see the

there these comments exist. But then to take something that is a negative and and somehow make it more fuel. I mean, of course he's good at that. How else can you run 100 miles on completely blown out knees? Right. Yeah. He's sucking fuel out of the air. He's like a human Tesla.

Oh, man. Unreal. Well, Saga loves being disconnected from the DC machine, you know, Oh man. Unreal. Well, Saga loves being disconnected from the DC machine, that whole kind of business. We need more reporters to do it. I mean, Matt Taibi is on. We'll be reviewing that next week's show. It's already out on Rogan.

He said something very similar. We get to that. But he said that a lot of these reporters now would quote unquote, journalists are like, you know, in the pocket of politicians, they're all buddy, buddy. Didn't use to be that way. So you either say what they want or, you know, you're out of the club, or you get fired. That's some scary journalism What do you think about the them talking about LBJ never Actually winning his election back in the in 1948. I think that was

It says that they they kind of went over that a little bit. They talked about bush definitely having some election fraud I think it started because if people talk about election fraud on YouTube with Trump, it gets flacked. Right. And it comes down. Yeah. So we know that they're deleting things that don't go towards their more liberal narrative, which is bullshit because that's ruining freedom of speech. But I had never heard about LBJ. Yeah, neither of us. Yeah. I knew, I remember, so that was the 2000 election

with goal and bush. And I knew that was kind of slippery in the Florida end because Jeb was the governor of Florida. Right. And there was some counting issues and it came, it was real close and I mean. Comes down to one state and your brother's the governor. Let's be realistic about what actually happened there.

Yeah, obviously his bro was on his brother's side. I mean, you'd imagine, right? Of course. But saying that, what kind of pull do they have? Can the governor just go in and really fuck with things and how do they hide that? And I don't know. I wish I knew more about how all that works because, you know, they're obviously people are talking about election fraud, every election

they get into it. And then the conclusion is always we looked at everything. There were a bunch of lawsuits and we didn't see any major problems. Okay, is that true? But like Joe says, how much is there? And it's not zero. So what is it? How much of it? And then there's all that gerrymandering stuff where they move the lines of that stuff slippery, but both sides do it. Well, and also they covered talking about politicians being able to be in the stock market and actually know what's happening. I mean, we've seen it with all politicians, but for them to be able to do and have this insider trading things happening and then be able to change their policies because of it

seems so ridiculous. I mean, all of the insider trading stuff is so slippery. You know, there are people on Instagram, I think it's unusual whale is the Instagram handle. People have talked about it on Rogan before I think Saga did it in fact. In what what that Twitter and Instagram does is it kind of exclusively follow politician trades and what's quite interesting about it is it's really highlighting a lot of their potential insider trading because of how successful they are and he shows it. But what it also does, that's quite interesting,

is he's created these little systems where you can actually trade with them. So you can pick Republican or Democrat political trades and it automatically does it for you. like Republican or Democrat, politico trades, and it automatically does it for you. So whenever they sell, you'll sell, I don't know how all that works, but that's kind of interesting.

I mean, what a great way if it is big winning stocks for people to make some money, but also it shows everybody what is actually happening. Right, it's transparent. Really highlights it. It must be a lot of work for him to do that, but I'm sure he's a full-time trader, so he has the opportunity to do it. Well, it says that in 2012, in active con, let's see, Aprilth, 2012, it was the stock act and it was designed to combat insider training signed in the law by President Barack Obama But I mean, that's obviously been reenacted, right? If if people are trading still

Yeah, I mean they they probably Started it and then found a new way to trade around it. I mean, they're not going to stop doing it. This is so much of their money. Right. Right. It's not the money's not coming from their salaries. That's for the answer. I mean, that's the point, right?

It's like Nancy Pelosi has been a lifelong politician. What do they pay him? $250, $300 a year? Yet she's worth hundreds of millions. Right. Either she's an incredible saver, but I don't think there's enough years to do that. Ten years would be a million, three million if you never spent any money. So she'd have to be a couple of hundred years old.

Yeah, it just says here that the main provision was repealed. That was repealed. What have required 28,000 senior government officials to post their financial information online. Sneaky. But they don't have to do that anymore. Oh, great. Anyway, well, keep it up unusual.

Well, thank you for your work. I love what, looking at your Instagram, even though I can't understand a lot of it, but you're doing great work. It's just getting that information out there more. It's just like a thing that we can't monitor. Nobody reports on it or barely anyone. And it's just been happening forever.

And it just can't keep going. The next thing was talking about how much money we'd sent over to Ukraine. I think they started by saying something like a hundred billion. And then you were saying at the end of the pod, they lowered it, right, till they were saying Thursday. Yeah, towards the end, it said between 20 and 30 billion dollars have been sent. So, and then I looked it up earlier, and the most accurate one, or the most recent number I saw was 48 billion.

It's a lot of billions, either way. I think what this comes down to is where do we get real true information these days? We don't know. There's so much information that it's hard to decipher what's the truth and what's not. Well, even when somebody I know tells me, oh, this is, you know, they know we do this part.

So people like to send us stuff and they're like, oh, you gotta check this guy out, He's great. And then you look at someone else and they recommend someone. And all these people individually are believing in whatever their source is that they're sending us. But then they have their own biases towards it. It's like, first, you got to look at what their political leanings are. And obviously, they like what they're hearing from these individuals, so they believe it. It's hard to work through that maze. Well, and I think we all know, and they chatted about how the war machine is actually running our country.

It has been for so many years. I mean, since I followed politics in, you know, the Bush era, ever since 9-11, we've basically been run by the war machine. Probably before that. Even before that, but in our lifetimes, for sure. Yeah. And there's no way of actually verifying what happens to this stuff. I mean, the Pentagon is losing, they, when, when Rumsfeld was in office right before 9-11, it was what, two trillion dollars that was lost? Was it trillion or billion? I think it was trillion.

Yeah, it was, like, we're just supposed to say, oh, no big deal. Well, they keep failing that. They're still doing it. When Saga said that, I'm like, wait a second, what? What does that mean? Does that mean I can fail my order? The Pentagon gets a special pass. Well, they just have so much of our tax dollars, and if they keep spending on military budget,

which they are, we never know what happens to that money. And I don't know how that changes. Maybe these independent, you know, sources that will start digging into this stuff will actually make a difference for, you know, people to be more informed and to get upset enough about it, right? If we're not doing anything about it, if the public's being empathetic, then how do we change that? Yeah, it won't change. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have money. Yeah, I want, I think, having a strong military is important. Right, but we should know where the money's going. We should know more than we do.

I don't think it will be the end of the world for them. You know, what they should do is get PR that just says why it's important that they have it. Here are the things that we do. This is kind of our mission. There's going to be some secret stuff stuff obviously, and that needs to be. But I think it would just be, I feel like the public people are just disconnected from this so much so that we don't know what they're up to, how much it costs, and probably that builds mistrust.

and probably that builds mistrust. Oh, absolutely. And it was 2.3 trillion. Wow. What did you think about? I'm looking up this richest guy in India here because that was an interesting topic. What did he lose? 100 billion?

He lost half of his assets or half of his money. And it was like, basically, he was inflating his own stocks, right? Propaganda Mop with the shell companies and then dumping them and making money. And somebody reported on it and said, all of this stuff is fake. And it just wrecked him. Yeah, it says right here, goutum, goutum, adani. His firms have lost 110 billion in value since let's see. This happened in just a matter of weeks. He went from 110 billion to 61 billion. So yeah, he lost half of his money. Well, I mean, if he's been conning a bunch of shit, then I don't,

I don't feel too bad about it. The X richest man. Yeah. That's wild, especially being that rich in a country like India, I mean, it's a much less expensive place to live. So, to him, I mean, that's just like having infinite money, probably. Yeah, it says accused of pulling the largest con in corporate history. He's just short selling everything, man. He's buying up his own stocks from companies that aren't even real to make it look like he's killing it in the stock market. And then how did he actually get caught though?

I think they said that some reporters or some investment guy basically explained what was happening. Looked into it and realized that this stuff was all fake. Put out a report that was pretty detailed, and everyone called on to it and said, well, fuck this, we're out. Crazy. Yeah. And the crazy thing is, this reminds me of last week when we talked about Mariana, or I guess at the beginning of this week, about how there's so many companies that are just

taking people's money, pretending that they're trading stuff, and it's all fake. Dude, that's so fucked up. It's unreal. It's terrifying when you think about it, especially because often people like, hey, you got to prepare for retirement, so put your money in the different stocks and diversify and buy some crypto. Yeah, it looks like a small US investment firm is what caught on to it. Crazy.

Yeah. Well, it's good that some real accounting goes on because he could have gone away with this for how long. And if you're not really bringing any value to anything, you'll just somehow absorbing a lot of money, that's not very useful. Like, those aren't the kind of billion as you want, right? No, man, you want to be a philanthropist if you have that much money. Hopefully. Come on. Come on.

Spread the wealth a little bit. Give it to someone. All right, Chinese balloon, spy balloon. I've covered it a bit. There's been a few of those now. We shot down what, like four. Has it been four? I think it's close, maybe more. And are they spy balloons? We don't know.

Hmm. Well, some of the others were like about the size of a car. So maybe that's a smaller balloon, or maybe it's something else. I'd like to get more information on that. I mean, we know what Jeremy Corbell thinks. I just want to see some up close pictures. There's got to be some better pictures of this stuff.

I mean, it kind of looks like the tick-tack thing that Corbell was talking about. There was a couple of them that looked like the UFO tick-tack. Well, if they were moving slow, they definitely are some pictures out there because we have satellites that can just hone in on that and take pictures, but they're all military top secret ones. Why doesn't Elon make one of these satellites that just can face the earth again and show some pictures? I mean, he could do it too, right? I guess he probably doesn't have like radar

systems that could figure out where they are. So that might be difficult. Yeah, but you know, there's something up there that has a better photo. No doubt. Absolutely. Yeah. And it was four. There claims to be four in the last, what, three weeks this has happened? No. And now Biden came out yesterday and said that they were not spy balloons. Okay. Okay. Not sure where that narrative is going. Likely not. Likely not spy balloons is that PBS. So then what the hell are they? If you're not a spy balloon, a spy alien probe. If any object presents a threat to the safety and security of the mirror of people, I will take it down.

So it's Joe Biden. Nice. I think we should shoot things down that are floating around. Yeah, but we're not getting the full story. What was it? Why was it here? Right? It's like we shot down some balloons and then no one talks about it after that.

It's no big deal onto the next. Yep. Then it's the train deal onto the next. Yep. Then it's the trains derailing. How many trains? That one in Ohio seems so fucked. Polluting everything and that's, I mean, that's not good. Now I was looking into that a few days ago. It does say that the average is 1700 derailments a year, which is insane.

That's a huge number. Yeah. So was it just coincidence? I don't know, but it sure seems weird that so many of them were just chemicals. Right. Right. Or at least chemical focused. That seems a little strange.

Also maybe a lot of trains have a lot of chemicals on. True. So it might just go with it. I mean, we've got to be careful not to get pulled into a conspiracy that's a waste of time. For sure. 1700 trained to be raven to year, that's a lot of trains. That should be the issue that we're fixing, right? Right.

Fix the actual tracks. The tracks before we start getting into conspiracies which typically happens well look if we got cars that drive themselves how the hell do we not have trains that they're it they're already on tracks there's got to be limited adjustments that you have to make to speed up slow down speed up slow down well there was something about, there was a certain breaks that Obama, he made a bill in Congress that passed the law for having specific breaks on trains like that that have chemicals on them, right? But I think it was overturned by Trump and so we don't have that anymore.

But I don't think that that's really the issue. The main issue to me is have you seen the tracks? I mean, I was on Twitter the other day and you can see how uneven these tracks are. I mean, it's like a four foot difference in some of these tracks. I mean, they're all over the place. We definitely don't have the rail system

that like Japan has. They have the dopest trains. Super fast, super straight, super safe. Always on time. And all ones are just clunking around the countryside, wobbling up and down, carrying toxic chemicals. Yet we can send billions and billions and billions of dollars for war. Uh huh. That's a good point.

Let's get our priorities straight. Yeah. Maybe maybe a little bit of train track map. A little bit. They talked about chat G-E-B-T too. And I'm sure a lot of you folks out there have been playing around with that or at least I hope you have.

Their website's always busy. I love going on that and just tinkering and just seeing what it's all about. But they're saying that it might change the way that universities do their curriculums because it's just getting so smart that writing papers is just not really the way forward. And let's be fair, writing papers is so annoying. When you're a student, it's always the one thing you hear, whether it's, oh, I got to get ready for this exam, but it's often it's, oh, I've got to write this paper. It's like, where all the stress of that stuff comes from, I feel like, why not at oral

exams? You just zoom it in or you're in class and they just ask you questions. Well, and then you, but then you have, like, get up in front of the class and talk. That's good for your confidence. Yeah. I mean, I think writing's good for your confidence too. So as a writer, I don't agree with that, but I did like the idea of having a class

that talks about GPT and maybe, you know, seeing what it can do, what it can't do. And then maybe, I mean, I don't know how these classes would go, but maybe you write a paper with GPT and then you write a paper yourself. You both. You know, see the differences. Or maybe we do it together.

That's an important class, though. Absolutely. To train kids on how to use it the best way or figure it out together as a class, that would be super interesting. Well, they're saying BuzzFeed was using GPT to write quizzes. Yeah, you know.

You can. Yeah, it can definitely do that. It's cool. I mean, we'll figure out a way to use it to its advantage. And I think we're going to see the advantages of it really quickly. And what it, you know, I think quizzes is one of those things that it does a really good job at because there's not really any emotion to quizzes. It's just straight forward, pretty linear.

Hey, here's an answer. Question that needs an answer. It's just straight forward, pretty linear. Hey, here's an answer question that needs an answer. That's easy. That's easy for a computer to do. Right. But they're saying that chat GPT 4.0 when it comes out is going to be a million times better than 3.0. Yeah. I mean, it kind of fucks up quizzes though when you can just write in. What's the answer to all these questions in chat GP GBT, and it just tells you. And then you're like, really, it just comes down to whoever's the best at using chat, GBT, you can get all the answers they need from things. Well, people are going to have to start finding new jobs.

I mean, you already look at the supermarket, how many people are opting out of a real person checking their food out. That hasn't really changed our economy much, has it? No, they have those different jobs. They have those McDonald's now that are completely automated. Right. No one's in there touching your food that just machines are making it.

Yeah, that's the one in Texas. And probably not making very many mistakes, I'd imagine. It's coming out It's common, dude that instead of just killing blue color jobs are gonna start killing more Writing jobs, you know journalists. I mean if BuzzFeed's already Fire in people because they can use chat GPT to write quizzes. I don't know how many people they laid off for that, but I imagine there's quite a few people that who were writing quizzes that aren't anymore.

Yeah. Quiz writers are done. Sorry, guys. Don't be a quiz writer. The last thing I wanted to hit on, and it was something that is just sad to hear, but you know, and I didn't know a lot about it, but the expanded child tax credit program. Now, you have a kid, you probably got this for a while, right? I did. Yeah, it was nice. What was it? Two years. I think it was, it definitely a full year, maybe a year and a half, it was through COVID. I remember

that much. It was like 900 bucks a quarter or something. Yeah, and they said good research has been done on it, and it shows the parents were actively spending well for their children. Right? So it's a successful program. As programs go, it wasn't this giant waste and people just out there buying, you know, unnecessary things, like they were re-investing in their kids with it for the most part. And they just let it expire. Now it's gone. That's such a bummer. It's like, hey, people need money for their kids. Well, this is something Kyle

was talking about too, who I didn't realize that Kyle, is it Kalinsky? It's actually Rachel's husband or excuse me, Crystal's husband. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He was saying the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Why are we getting rid of this? It doesn't make any sense. It's like surely that benefits everyone. Why did they just make that like a political issue? And that's it. We need more money to go to war instead of, you know, into the pockets of people who actually needed in our country, I don't know. I guess, uh, anyway, let's jump over to be real. Good old be real. What a legend. Come on. How long has this guy been around making dope ass wraps? I mean, my first, let's see, it must have been six grade. I think was when that

would have been 19. Gosh, 93, 92 maybe. And that was when insane in the membrane came out. I know because I used to run to it. I was on the cross-country team. So good. So good. And that was, you just don't repeat. What do you have like a little walkman? No, well, I must have. Yeah, I don't remember. It might have been a CD player walkman at that point, right?

Maybe. They had to remember the anti-skip CD players. Oh, yeah, they didn't work. It would look like that. No, I just remember. I remember that having that on repeat for sure when we were running like insane in the membrane I mean that was that that was the hot hit for years. Oh, yeah, it's and it's so replayable to yeah, I mean imagine the royalties that they've made on it I wonder if you could look that up like what the total royalties of just insane in the membrane has been.

Boy, you look like that up. Let's talk about the marijuana tax revenue thing. So in California alone, it's over a billion dollars. Though, it's hard to get those licenses, like way tough. So there's still a lot of illegal weed being grown. And, you know, they've kind of reduced the punishments for doing that, which I think is heading in the right direction for sure. But, you know, it kind of increases people's risk taking

because they won't get in as much trouble and they're growing it legally. Do you think that's the problem ultimately there is just that because it's still not in every state and it's still not approved federally that we're just kind of like in the gray area of making this work right? I think each state is going to figure it out on its own. I think each state is going to figure it out on its own. It's just going to take a little bit longer, but they did mention that Colorado is doing it better than California because there's less taxes in Colorado. It's a little bit easier to get a license, right? So it's state by state.

Every state is different. I think, yes, it's going to take longer, but eventually, I think we're going to look towards states like Colorado and be real mention that of, you know, seeing where this revenue is going, seeing how much revenue is going to schools and roads. And I think most of the revenue goes to schools in Colorado, right? I think, anyway, I think it's been somewhat used well. And also, now that it's started and been so profitable, they're not getting rid of it. Like more states are just going to take it on. And you know, the kind of political biases against it are just going to be overtaken by

money because states won this money. Right. I mean, you see that happening in Montana with the problem is that there's going to be larger companies, larger weed companies that come in and take out all the small guys, right? Yeah. Which, you know, that's capitalism, I guess, at its finest. You can't really stop that, but it is, I mean, we've seen it with friends of ours here in Montana that have started weed companies and aren't doing it anymore. I know a few people

it's a tough business. Yeah, you know, but then we got our boy at Apigee, Godden, shout out to them. Mm-hmm. You know, they're just expanding and expanding. Yeah, I think it's one of those things. If you if you got in the game early enough and you're good at what you do, then you're going to survive, right? It's just like anything else. You're going to weed out the bad guy. Weeed. Literally weeed him. What did you think about the... So they talk about microdose scene and depression.

Awesome that that gets brought up so much because I think it's going to be such an amazing tool for people. It's already... We're already seeing it happen, right? But it's just cool to see that this gets brought up on a weekly basis, I feel like with Rogen. And to think that this can be such a change in the way we've done things in the past is just very exciting to me. Yeah. Because I don't think antidepressants are, you know, I don't think they're bad,

but I think that there's natural remedies that could work better, along with exercise, along with eating right. Obviously, there's all these things that we never tend to talk about in the mainstream media health realm, right? It takes, again, it takes people like Rogan and YouTube in the mainstream media health realm, right? It takes, again, it takes people like Rogan and YouTube and independent sources to be talking about stuff like this. And now it's becoming part of the mainstream

because of that, which is really cool. I mean, some of those drugs have their place, for sure. Of course. I've been reading this book recently, that's about therapy and about the rise of Prozac. And it had all these stories and cases in there, but of this doctor that dealt with these patients, clients, whatever you wanna call them,

pro patients, because he's an MD. And he was talking about how often people just like couldn't even get out of bed. They wouldn't even get to the therapy sessions. Like they just could do nothing. And that exists. That happens to people. And maybe at least once that happens to a lot of people, to just some point in their life. And he was talking about how they would get him on Prozac, you know, in the early days. And the, but like buy the next week also, really quickly. They're telling him that, yeah,

they're taking their kids to this event and they're out doing things and, you know, that's a huge, huge difference. I think the problem gets into they started to hand this stuff out like candy. Right. And what's heartbreaking to me with the people that I know that have taken those things and then tried to get off it is they don't really explain how brutal it is to get off it It's like you've already got all this problem that's not working for you So here's a quick fix which may work but eventually You know for a lot of people the goal is to get off it it's so hard, and they don't really prepare you for it. It's not like they have, I have a friend doing it now, and there's not like a great procedure for getting them off it.

You know, they went and talked to their doctor, and their doctor was like, yeah, well, we could reduce the dose and have the dose, and it's been tough for this person, really difficult. And they weren't expecting that. They weren't really told about that when they got on it. And maybe, and it wasn't like this person was in bed or day before, they were just uncomfortable and a, sad and struggling. And if microdosing is like a much easier transition for people like that,

then please look into it, right? For those people's sake. Well, that's just it. It's just good to see that there's other options available. And again, depression is such a problem in this country and we need all the options we can. I mean, we need these options, right? But it's nice to be able to explore newer alternative options always. Well, look at this episode, responsible by Mindbloom, doing ketamine therapy. Right. I mean, how wild is that to think about 10 years ago to think that you could legally get paid

to suggest to people out there that are struggling that they could go and sign up for these sorts of therapies, which are helping people. Yeah. Or use Kedeman to get those boys out of that soccer team that was stuck in that cave. You remember that? They actually had to use ketamine to get them out of there, to put them in a tranquilized state so that they didn't freak out while they were getting pulled out of that cave. Where was this? That was, I feel like it was in China. I'll look it up, but yeah, they talked about that. So they like sedated them? Yeah, they were sedated with ketamine so that they didn't freak out when they're trying to get the bodies out of this cave.

It was gonna crumble. Oh, wow. Yeah. What? I didn't hear about that. Oh, yeah. Nuts. Oh, that freaks me out.

I'm way too close to Fr. Kavapol. I should. To hoot. You ever hear of people that do, what do they call it, like, cuspusp lunkin or something? Oh, yeah cave Yeah, crawling through caves and little holes. I have Splunkering is that a stuff I don't know Spalunking spalunking there we go better. I just can't believe anyone does that

I mean fair play to you, but god when you hear of a story of people can't stock, and it's just like what a way Here we go the tie. Sorry, it was Taiwan my bad. I said China So the Thai soccer team cave rescue aided by a ketamine 12 boys rescued from deep within a flooded cave in Thailand last July were pulled out as they slept under anesthesia a strategy that kept, that was kept secret at the time because it was risky according to doctors. The divers who ferried the boys to safety were taught how to give intramuscular injections of the drug ketamine. Wow. Wow. And then, oh, so they had to like dive them out. So probably get them on an ab, but keep them from kicking and spasming.

Right. That makes sense? Loud the boys to continue to breathe on their own and kept their blood pressure stable. Crazy. Well, you know, that's a good example of just doing what works without, you know, putting any kind of drug biases on it. It's like, this is gonna help. Let's do that. Let's do that. Oh, I did like real quick in this episode

and I'm sure it's the same for everyone. Beavis and Butthead commercial. I mean, as commercials go, great. You know, I said, if you had to see the new film, what, and then me too, and then making a series now. It's awesome. It's coming back.

I wonder if it's gonna hold up. I mean, when I was like 13, that was the funniest thing ever, but I thought a lot of dumb shit was funny when I was 13. It'd be interesting to see if they adjust it. It was way better than Ren and Stimpy. It was. It was. Ren and Stimpy was just creepy.

Still good. So they talk a lot about drugs in this one or a lot about weed, right? Which we kind of knew was gonna happen. I thought it was funny to hear them talk about staying away from concentrates. Yeah, which I think is important. You know, even be real was saying he doesn't do it much.

If he says it, this shit is walk, kids. It's too easy. It's too strong. shit is walk, kids. It's too easy. It's too strong. It's just too strong. It's so strong. I don't understand how high people need to get. How people are doing dabs. I mean, they talk about how Snoop obviously

is always smoking weed, but Snoop's not doing dabs all the time. I doubt it. Talking about the taking an eighth of mushrooms before he goes on stage, how they used to do that back in the day Can't imagine that that seems like a lot of work. They gave some advice on doing edibles though and I have to say I I think be real and Joe kind of agreed that 10 milligrams is good for a newbie starting I would honestly say that's too much I would say half and still keep it on what you have to do. Like if you're not used to it at all and you do five milligrams, just some people, I've

seen them get pretty, you know, kind of confused. Tapping to me. And to go into public, there might be a lot. So I think that there is a bit more, you know, maybe they're so used to doing it, the 10 to them is just nothing. But yeah, to a newbie, maybe. It really just depends, always start small. Start small.

You gotta start small because you're never really gonna regret that. Even if you end it with, yeah, I didn't really feel it that much. It's like, okay, good. It's better than getting out and being like, I went to a dark place and hit in my closet. Yeah, you don't want to do that.

No, it's too much. You don't want to do that. I don't remember them having normal, what was his name? Normal Persia, the guy who did 14 peaks. He was on Rogan. Oh, yeah. Okay, I don't remember that.

Yeah, he was a GERCA, which is like a type of special forces that I think work for the UK, but they're like external countries, special forces. Okay. Like Thailand or somewhere like that. They're bad asses, for sure. The GERCA is a badass. Did you watch that film?

I did, yeah. Unreal. Dude, how much like, what is like blood oxygen level was still like 90% even at you know 8000 meters or something. Yeah, I can't even get through a hot yoga session without almost passing out which Happened this morning when Todd and I went They're all just different levels of humans out there Phenomenal well, and he was drinking every night. Savage. You know, unreal. Maybe that helped.

Pretty helpful. Maybe. I mean, it kept his blood thin. Mm-hmm. Oh, what did you think of breakdancing getting into the Olympics? That's awesome. I did not know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's amazing. So last year, I think they had surfing and maybe skateboarding in. Well, not last year, but like 2020 or whatever they did. skateboarding was new, yeah. So that's pretty cool. It's like progressive and fun. And now break dancing.

Why not? I mean, you look at the gymnastics to music, you know, where they're like flipping around on the floor. It's like, why not do it like this? I mean, they're definitely incredible athletes. It's gonna be fun to watch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Breaking in the 2024 Olympics, dude. That's not Paris. I wonder if they have like breakdowns battles and then people just vote on it. That could be, that could quickly become one of the most fun Olympic vents to watch. I mean, it's not much different than a floor routine in gymnastics. I mean,

obviously, you're not flipping. Well, you probably are flipping. Right? Yeah. They're going to throw back flips and stuff in there. Yeah. Absolutely. It's super dope. I love that idea. I liked the iced, him talking about iced tea because I was a fan. I liked the iced tea, I'm talking about iced tea, because I was a fan, I'm still a fan of iced tea, but I remember when iced tea came out with Body Count, which was his metal, more metal punk group, back in, that's gotta be the late 80s, when I was a young. Well, he's gonna be a fan of that type of music,

which is cool. Yeah, and seeing the hip hop being represented in the Grammys after 50 years of hip hop, you know, he's saying they didn't hit everybody, but they did a good job of paying respects to an amazing. The players. An amazing group of people. Yeah. Yeah. It's also not surprising to hear that labels wouldn't take a chance with Cypress Hill to start with. Like too risky. Right, but I bet they're kicking themselves now. Yeah, I never figured out how much money

the, how much money the insane and the membrane song made. But I mean, I know it was platinum, right? Oh, yeah. That album went platinum for sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a big mistake to a lot of record companies. But who knows, it was a different time, a lot of pressure. It's always easier to go with a Justin Bieber, you know, than someone that might upset people.

But the end of the day, if the music's good, then who cares? Like that's what I think. Well, I think of how much the audiences change, the amount of people that actually smoke weed now. I mean, back in the 90s, when they first came out, it was a pretty small group, or at least people didn't talk about it as much. Yeah, and that's basically all they sung this song's on. Just like, by the way, we love this.

Yeah, the guys are legend, dude. I mean, and such a good talk, too. Like, Super Chill, Articular, like, really just, just awesome. Love it. I still got to watch that video of Joe on his podcast doing the like hot boxing in the car. That sounds almost stressful. I mean, you just getting too high.

Wait, that wasn't when he was taking the volcano? No, I think they would just smoke in a bunch of weed and sitting in a car and trying to do a podcast. I'm amazed that any of them could speak. I just fall asleep. Brutal. Well, that's about it for this week. And anything else you want to add to?

Well, I was just making sure that I was correct on the platinum. It definitely went platinum. Yeah, legendary song. Listen to it. Play right now, everyone out there in Respect and it was 1993 to God that feels old such a long time ago. It's a long time. Well, what a great year I mean we were what 12. Yeah, that's a great time to be listening to that song 12 years old just like yeah, man, mom and dad didn't know we were listening to Cypress Hill I'm 12 you got to keep it quiet. It's probably what got me into smoking weed.

Hey, don't play, man, that was your decision. Hey! All right, guys, well thanks for listening. We appreciate it. Check out our website, check out our Instagram, and as always, have a great week. We love you to death. BYE!