Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 324 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Jason Everman Et al.

Episode Date: April 21, 2023

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Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. The team just got back from Austin where we were checking out the city, went to MotoGP, primarily checking out Rogan's new club, the comedy mothership, and I'm telling you right now that is the best comedy club I've ever been to. The professionalism of the staff, the absolutely hilarious shows that we got to watch. They have yonder bags there, so you got to put your phone in a bag, which gives the comics ultimate freedom, which is such a great idea. Midsys Bar is off to the side, and it's just such a dope spot.

Really everything about the way Rogan has that club set up, I just couldn't find a fault in it at all. It was brilliant. What did you think Todd? I think there was one fault. I gotta say, the $8 waters, when they don't tell you that the waters are eight bucks, that was my only gripe about the place.

Everything else, like you said, amazing, awesome, wonderful. Well, if you look on the menu, you can get a $4 soda. Okay. And a B-rich. I mean, they were those, what are those waters? The liquid death liquid. It's pretty good. I mean, it's from Austria.

Yeah, but we're on vacation, bro. We're on vacation. It was, it was unreal. Don't nickel and dime me right now. I had so much fun at the mothership. Can't wait to go back. So good. Guys, I'm telling you, if you're a fan of Rogan and you love comedy,

which I'm sure you do, that is a pilgrimage you have to take. Terry Blacks was off the chain. We did an episode special for that trip, but we accidentally had some killtony spoilers in there. And Tony did say, don't talk about the show until it's released When we were at killtony, so we will not be releasing that one until that killtony show comes out but stay tuned on with this show You are listening to the Joe Rogan experience review podcast We find little nuggets treasures valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit.

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Who do we have? Jason Everman. What an interesting character that guy was. Yeah. Played with Nirvana and Soundgarden. Pretty cool. Holy shit. Pretty cool.

Man. Space. The base. The dub base. Slap into base, man. Slap into base. Hmm. I don slap into base man slap in the base. Hmm I don't know what that's like for him, you know, seeing how absolutely massive and legendary Nivana got like you know and he's off You know in the military then yeah, I didn't he joined up like 93

So yeah, it's kind of on his new journey and don't get me wrong bad ass. I mean, what was he green beret and Ranger? Yeah, and look, I think he is excited about that journey. He was, I think he was ready. Obviously, he was ready to not be a bass player in a band anymore. I think the sound garden one kind of heard him more than the Nirvana one did, right? Yeah. Seemed like it.

Yeah. I mean, he wasn't too bothered about the Nirvana one., right? Yeah. Seemed like it. Yeah. I mean, he wasn't too bothered about the Nirvana one. That was just like a cool experience, I think. Seemed like it. And, but two massive bands, legendary. And then goes off to be, you know, like an actual warrior. Just holy shit. I feel like when he's back, he should start writing songs.

Imagine the story he has now. I'm sure. Well, he was pretty humble about his experience in Afghanistan. He didn't talk about it too much. Uh-uh. Even when Joe was bringing up the heroin thing, he was trying to kind of skirt through that one and not say much. That is such a weird thing that went on, but I guess it just goes to show like when you're in, you know, your military goes to this different country

that obviously we're on is way different than our country does. It's like you've got to work with the powers to be in some way, even if it goes against, you know, the overall theme and morals of what goes on in your country. Yeah. I mean, you're seeing all these mansions being built and, you know, as the war progressed, there's all these mansions being built, and obviously that's from heroin money. Well, all it's from, we were paying a lot for Intel there, too. I mean, I'd heard stories of people I used to work at this, what was it, like a cell phone company? And the guy that was doing the training program

used to be in the military. And he used to talk about just driving around in these humvees with suitcases of cash. And basically, he'd just be told to go with a convoy and show up somewhere and pay somebody. You know, it's not like they're writing this stuff down. It's just like, here's your hundred grand, thanks for the intel. Keep it coming.

Well, it would make sense then when Jason talks about the each kind of house being its own fortress and he's telling his buddy there how, you know, his neighbor has his keys and the man was just really confused. Like, did he steal everything from you? And Jason had to explain to this guy in Afghanistan, no dude, in America, we just trust our neighbors

and we leave things unlocked, no dude. In America, we just trust our neighbors and we leave things unlocked. You know, and maybe not in all spots in the States, obviously, some are different than others. I mean, most of us have lived in a place at least once. There was a lot like that. You know, like the little villages I lived in in England, that wouldn't be unusual. It's just like, yeah, you just leave your canter of stone.

Most people know where it is. I mean, you know, everybody in the village. Yeah. It's kind of how it goes. But obviously, you can't do it there. People come over, say, a lawyer's shit. Yeah. How cool is that when he's talking about the buying a boat, right?

He ends up buying a sailboat. Mm-hmm. And I had read that book or started to read that book. I actually found that book at a garage sale about that guy Robin who sailed by himself and then he met that patty woman that he mentioned as well. Now he's really good friends with both of them. friends with both of them, but I think their book that he wrote was it called Dove. I can't remember. I have it written down somewhere, but they circumnavigated the globe on a boat. He was like 16 at the time, this guy robbing. That's not. Yeah, and the book that I have is from that point in his life where he was only 16. I think it's called like the boy who sailed the world. Nice. And it came out, you know, on national geographic, they made a hard copy. It's not a very big book, 16. I think it's called like the boy who sailed the world. Nice. And it came out, you

know, on national geographic, they made a hard copy. It's not a very big book, but there's a ton of photos. And it's just, I mean, to see a 15 or 16 year old kid circumnavigate the globe, it's just incredible. Yeah. And then he meets this woman, Patty, on the, you know, in one of those islands that he was at, I can't remember which one, somewhere in like Philippines or who knows, and they end up getting married and they're still together. Wow. And now Jason Everman's friends with them.

Yeah. And has asked him a bunch of questions about by and his boat, and now, you know, I think one of the main reasons he wanted to come on the podcast is to talk about his new trip that he's going on. He's trying to he's doing a what was it they're they're doing a what is that a crowdfunding thing for his new trip. Yeah. And he's going I think without gas right or they're using

just the power of the wind to circumnavigate him in a few buddies. Man, how fast can you go in just the sales boat? Don't know. No, that quick. I mean, there's got to be some days where there's just nothing going on, right? No wind. So you just chill in, floating around. Oh, it just sounds terrifying. And think of all the shit that can go wrong, too.

I mean, God bless them for doing that. I think that kind of adventure is awesome, but at the same time, it's gets the shit out of me thinking. Oh, it's insane. Yeah, super notaloid. Okay. This is what he was calling it. Nice. Super notaloid. They're doing a go-fun me right now. Yeah. Kind of crazy. Interesting fucking guy, man. It's, it's you ever wanted to do something like that like that type of an adventure You know, whether it's like sailboating around the world a long-ass hot air balloon Like is there any kind of whether you would do it or not like a fantasy that kind of pulls you? Yeah to it. I mean one of our guys for one of our podcast shows is

Is cycling his bike from Mexico to Canada. He's doing it over the summer on the CDT trails. That would be yeah, he's super pumped for this. And I it always sounds cool. You know, like the forest gump run across the country, but I'm just like, what? I don't know. What are you searching for? Well, the bike thing's crazy.

I had a buddy who biked from Michigan to Seattle, just like 10 years ago. And he ended up stopping in Bozeman. And he hung out here for a few days because it was so smoky, right? It was in August, so there was just smoke everywhere. He was wearing a mask. I said, dude, just stay here, wait for the smoke to subside

and then get on your trip. Well, he ended up staying in Bozeman for about two months. Yeah. And sleeping on my couch, and then he ended up moving here a few months later. Anyhow, I ended up meeting him in Seattle at the end of the trip and we did a bike ride around the Hood Canal on the Olympic Peninsula. Right. And it was awesome.

It was amazing. I did a weekend trip. We biked maybe 60 miles a day. Wow. We biked up to Port Angeles and then went down and around the Hood Canal and the Olympic Peninsula was incredible. I've spent a good bit of time in Port Angeles. That's a beautiful place. Oh, it's such a cool little town. Yeah. And just remote and just wonderful spot. So good hills for riding. Yeah, but I just can't imagine doing that every day. I mean by day four I was so freaking tired I mean we biked you know 50 60 miles a day and it's just you're getting you know

Some of these roads don't have any shoulders and truckers are like beeping at you and pushing you off the road And you've got you know I had a trailer with all my stuff in a backpack and a you know a tent and all the shit I mean you have to have a lot of stuff on you. Yeah. It's fine, but I can't imagine doing that day in, day out for that many months at a time. I think it's like anything though. People get you get used to it, right? You probably didn't train before that.

No. You know, I'm sure I'll, I'll guy shorn from our podcast is gonna be training before he heads out there. You know, you kind of get your body in shape for it. Yeah. And he's also young, he's in his 20s. Yeah, that helps. So that helps, you know. How were you when you did the Washington one?

Probably 28. Oh okay, still a young man. I think it was about 13, 14 years ago, something like that. Yeah. And so, I think it depends on your age. To answer your question of like some ideas that I would want to do or things that I've thought about is now that I have a son, it's different,

but let's say taking my son to Mexico for two or three months and just living down there and exploring the culture and getting him to speak Spanish. I think is amazing. I think it needs to happen, especially in our world now that everybody's so, you know, it's the second biggest language in this country. And it probably, you know, soon enough,

white people in this country are gonna be the immigrants, you know, and I mean, we are immigrants, technically. But you know what I'm saying. Yeah. And so I've thought about that, you know, traveling maybe to Spain and bringing my son and just hanging out for a couple of months and, you know, just exploring what's out there. Because you learn so much more from travel than you do from school. I mean, it's just, it's just, you just learn so much more about culture and it's just

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You don't have to go anywhere. Yeah, it's cool. And that brings me to my point about growth is the result of trauma. And that was mentioned several times. And anytime Jason left a band or had a breakup or was dealing with something really hard, he seemed to do really good at knowing how traumatic this event was in his life

for these several events and push through and realize you needed to make a change and without all of those traumatic events happening, he wouldn't be the person he is today. And again, Rogan talks about this over and over and over. You're not gonna get through life without these events and you can either do something good about them and create a better life for yourself

because of the shit that happens to you or you can just be sulking and depressed and granted we're all going to get there right it's going to be depressing it's going to be hard yeah but that's the point that's how you grow and it's okay if the trauma is too much right now for you to deal with yeah but in time and with help and adjusting maybe your attitude towards what it was. The hard part is finding out what the growth is in the trauma itself. That's what's difficult because all you do at first is just see it as something that fucked your life up. And yeah, maybe for that moment it did, but once you sit back and kind of take you know, take a look at everything that's happened, even if it's really bad, you know, like an accident where you lose an arm or something

that is really destabilizing. You find a path often out of it that's like, wow, I wouldn't have had this opportunity if this didn't come up. Like, we don't always know what's best for ourselves. I know. We think we do. we often count on it, we like, need it, we're like, ah, if only this would happen to me, if I would get this job or go to the school or get this promotion, and oftentimes something else happens,

it seems disappointing and it leads in a whole different direction. I can't tell you how many times that's happened to me. Well, we just talked about that. In our trip to Austin, you were saying how you were real close to getting a job at the comedy store. And had you gotten that job, you probably wouldn't be sitting down with me right now talking.

Yeah, I probably wouldn't have moved the Boseman. Yeah, I mean, a lot of things wouldn't have changed. You wouldn't have met your lady. Yep. You know, you never know? You never know. All right. Well, that, one more thing here.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Thoreau, right? Henry Dave, old Henry David. Mm-hmm. Most men live lives in quiet desperation. How true is that? It's such a good quote. And you don't want to live in quiet desperation.

None of us do, but I think most of us do. Yeah. That's the sad part. And remembering that, that we don't have to live in quiet desperation. We can get help. We can look to others. We can try harder. We can, you just have to push through it. Yeah. Or else you are going to live a life of quiet desperation. And nobody wants that. No. I mean, throw might have. Yeah. That's what helped him come up with great quotes. Yeah.

All right. Let's jump over to Sam Talent. Funny dude. Um, they covered the Dalai Lama. Sucks a kid's tongue video. Obviously everyone's heard of this now. I still haven't watched it. I don't want to.

But what the heck is going on there? Is there been any pushback? Is he like banned from hanging out with kids now? I don't know, I didn't watch the video, just heard about it. I know that sticking your tongue out is a thing that they do. I didn't, with licking the tongue into whatever is much different thing, but in the culture, the sticking your tongue out is actually a, I think a positive thing, right? Okay.

I don't know, I'll look it up. You keep saying. That one could be, but I feel like sucking a tongue, especially with child. It seems like a COVID violation. They started this podcast off with a really cool video from Bill Burr. It's on the comedy store, I mean, the mothership website. Okay.

So real quick, I look this up. So it says, excuse me, sticking out one's tongue is a sign of respect or agreement and was often used as a greeting in traditional Tibetan culture. Well, there we go. So sucking the tongue, not cool too far, sticking out the tongue fine. It's funny. Maybe just add it to it. You said so. So greeting. Yeah, slow down that, Dolly. Well, I know Rogan played the Bilba clip on his part, but I loved it a lot, and I wanted to play it again. I think it's such an important message for anybody out there that's trying to do something

difficult and to believe in it, so we're going to play some of that right now. There's no way you lose when you go after a dream. You don't, it always leads to something better, always. All right? Starving Artist. I slept on a futon till I was 36. I don't fucking regret any of it. I was dating this woman and I said I had a spot I had to go do and it paid $8 at the comic strip during the week. Tuesday night I went down there and I came back I tried on a new bit and

I was doing a and afterwards I was at home in my apartment and I was doing this silly dance in the kitchen because I had a new bit and I was psyched because I had gone through this period where I wasn't coming up with any new material. And she was laughing and then she got a sad look on her face and I said, what's the matter? And she said, I wish I had a job where I only got paid $8. Yet I came home and I did a silly dance in the kitchen. The responsible thing to do is to listen to you heart. It wasn't hard to work at the shitty job

because I was always thinking about the exciting job I was gonna do afterwards. And every night that I just went up on stage and if it just went moderately okay, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't, I have to be honest with you like, I couldn't fucking believe that I was actually doing it, that I was actually, I had a dream

and I was making it happen. And I still remember the first time I really went on stage and I actually got in the zone for what was considered a zone at the level comic I was and I only was in the zone for about eight seconds. I was at Nick's comedy stop in Framingham on Route 9. It doesn't even exist anymore and I just got on this role of laughter that I was actually able to pause and fucking be in the moment and enjoy it rather than be like, oh my god, what's my next joke? What's my next joke? And that fucking feeling can carry you through a fucking shitty job for a

week. Freddie Stone,one. Excitable boy. What he went by. I did a room for him and he gave me $5 gas money. I'd probably spent 10 to get there and I couldn't fucking believe it. And I was like, I did that and they gave me this. I couldn't fucking believe it. At what point? Just listen to the sound of my voice as I'm talking about this.

Have you ever had that level of excitement doing any other fucking job? That's what it's like when you go after a dream job. So nothing is worse than not going after it. Financially I did not. There you go folks. That's just such an important message for people that are trying to follow it and it doesn't matter what the dream is. Something hard, something scary, you're leaning towards it. It just feels right. You wish you could do

it. And yes, let's get pumped up. Yeah. I'm feeling pumped. I'm feeling pumped. Man, how good is Bill Byrne and his rounds? Nobody does it better. He's great. So good. That's one of the best, like, inspiration or things, you know. It's the type of thing that if you're doing something difficult and you're struggling to kind of pick yourself up and keep going, maybe it's just a day where you're like,

ah, one of those days and you'll get them when you're in that time of your life where you just want to quit. Put that fucking video on. There you go. It's all online. Get it. Definitely put on some of that piano background too. Because that helps.

I know. She want to cry. You're like, so good. So are they going to buy Epstein's Island or else? I don't know. I hope not. A bunch of tiny graves next to the tennis court,

what do they say? They saw it on Google. Like they're like freaking Who knows I didn't check it out on Google they got to blow that island up surely What a scary place but podcast island That was cracking me up. Oh, what about those 30 wasps to they showed that video of 30 wasps taking over 30,000 honeybees. That was crazy.

They're just grabbing the babies and the wasps are just taking over that entire frickin', you know. Oh yeah, the wasps and hornets will wreck beehives. It's unreal, how fast? Dude. Nature, nature work. Hmm. Dude. Nature, nature work. Hmm. Yeah.

Well, kid rocks upset about the Bud Light thing. Yeah, I don't really understand that. Who cares? It seems like a lot to get upset about. It's just another thing that people are obsessing over when there's a war going on, when our government is stealing money and doing whatever the hell they want, and they just want to keep us preoccupied with dumb stuff that we can fight about.

It seems like a big distraction. It's a huge distraction. It's like, look over here. This is important. Exactly. It doesn't seem important to me. And now they're coming out with all, I mean, they talked about this at the end of the pod, but or maybe this was with Ottoman actually. We'll get to that with Ottoman, but remind me that, you know, all this stuff is coming out, this declassified stuff about aliens right now.

Oh yeah, but definitely you're gonna get that for sure. But yeah, the stupidest thing is that their conversation about Bud Light will be in the news, which it was. It's been in the news, everyone's been talking about it. All the comedians are talking about it. I mean, it's this huge thing. Who cares? It's so silly.

Yeah. I just, who look at the end of the day, it's all business, right? So if it doesn't work for Bud Light, they're gonna change it and get someone else. Well, and also, everyone, you know, on the left is typically pro life, right? Or excuse me, pro choice.

You got a lot of most people on the right, are pro life. But then they're all about the first amendment and why are they about freedom with that, but they're not about sexual freedom. It just doesn't make sense. It's the same damn thing. Yeah, I'd like to be in the freedom for freedom, Pate.

Yeah, why not sexual freedom? Why not sexual freedom? If you can say what you want, why can't you do what you want? 100%. It just doesn't match up. People like to get worked up though. And well they want us to get worked up right? They definitely do. That's why they're trying to keep us fighting over this silly stuff so that they can turn around

and central have centralized digital currency. You know, doing all this stuff behind our backs. It's like the Patriot Act has completely fucked us and our privacy, but because it was a war crime when it happened, everyone looked the other way and said, oh yeah, we gotta keep stuff safe and now look what's happening. Everyone knows everything about us

and all they need is your phone number. And you're done. I mean, they get it all. So it's just crazy. You can hand scan print at Whole Foods now. Yeah. Just put your hand over the thing and it free by stuff. Freaky. They're talking about getting rid of cash, like all together. So that every transaction that any can be tracked can be tracked. Yeah, that's a bad idea. It's like already at most government places, you know, like you go to a national

park or like anywhere you would pay and it's through the government, you can't use cash anymore. It's all debit card credit card transactions. They can track sneaky shit dude. I mean, I do appreciate being able to track everything myself via a card only because it helps me with my taxes. I don't have to save a bunch of receipts and all that. But then when the government could just turn your account on or off depending on, you know, the social whether you behaved yourself or you're tweeting, what do they call that? The social score social credit score. Yeah. I mean, that is just that is tyranny. Yeah. It's definitely for us. Look at all the crazy shit we say on this podcast. They're gonna downgrade our Social credit score real quick. Yeah, or maybe

Improve it pens use in power We're gonna find out well China's gonna get all our bank account numbers But so is so are the the people in charge here in the states. How is it any different? Wait, let's put gold bars under our bed. Yeah. I can afford about four coins of this part. What does it say that it was there only 75 feet squared on a 20 to 22 meters squared. Okay. Yeah. Which is a lot. I mean, that would be a giant block of gold. But to think that's all the gold that ever mined, it doesn't seem like that much. I was surprised too.

I mean, Joe thought that was what I was like hold on. Well, it's wild. It's wild. He talks about it. That Zacharias Sitchin was talking about that in the Sumerian text too. Oh, yeah. That keeps coming up. Uh-huh.

The 12th planet. Yeah. They came here to get the gold because they couldn't find it on their own planet. I kind of don't get it though, because like if they're like a space traveling alien race, they would have massive power sources and they should be able to make their own gold. Because there is a process for it,

it just takes a lot of power. So if they want to gold that bad, or maybe it was just easier just to fly down here and have us monkeys dig it out of the ground for them. And then they're like, all right, we'll make you a little bit smarter, but not too smart. I need to read that book. Yeah, it's fun times. Let's jump over to Bill Ottoman. Yeah, and just to just to bring up the central or decentralized, right? Yeah, decentralized social media. Social media, which is a great idea.

Mine. The whole thing catches on I Haven't even looked at it And then what is no stir is that just another decentralized app because they mentioned that Snowden uses that yeah, I think so Okay, yeah Snowden likes those so essentially It's just a way to cover up your IP address when you're searching for stuff and when you're on social media Right, you're not getting and and when you're on social media. Right. You're not getting... And it's not going to kick you off. There's no banning going on.

So there's probably some wildshipping said, but that's what's going to happen when there's no rules. It's like you still get to choose what you're looking at. What do you think Elon won't let Alex Jones back on? He did let Andrew Tate, but not Alex Jones. I don't have an opinion either way. I feel like voices or voices. And, you know, well, talk to say. Look, if we're gonna talk about Elon for a second,

I have a few things because this week, this last week has been crazy what he's done. I mean, he kicked Tayyibi off. He started talking shit about Substack, which sucks. And I don't appreciate that. He's probably going to end up buying sub-stack. They talked about that. He's actually removed the restrictions on the sub-stack through Twitter. So I don't know the ins and outs of it all, but it's trending like it always had. Well, and maybe that was

just a bit of a game. He was more... Maybe, maybe. But it makes me second guess his intentions for buying Twitter. You know, you look at all the big boys and well, I think they're all men who are the richest people in the world as of now. Hopefully that changes, but I think, you know, the Washington Post is owned by Amazon or by what's his name, Guy O'On's Amazon. Jeff Bozo. Thank you.

Jeff Bezos. Sorry about that. Or Bozos. And then you got Rupert Murdoch, who owns several other media companies. Everything else. If you look at history, right? All of the most powerful men in the world

have always owned the conversation and the narrative, right? They've either owned the printing presses, the newspapers, all of that. Throughout history, if you look, if you look, and it's still happening to this day, and now you have someone like Elon, who richest man in the world, right? Yeah. Now owns the biggest narrative on the planet. Yeah. He might be like the second richest now, but pretty rich.

But if you think about that, there's a power play here. Yeah. So it's a little bit disheartening. I still like Elon, but I don't know if I like what's happening, I don't like what's happening with Taiyibi and him. And I don't know if he was telling him what to say or do. I don't know if he's hiding stuff now from the Twitter files. I guess I'm losing trust in his,

I'm losing trust in his, I guess, his power moves that he's doing, right? I don't know if they're, I don't know if they're just because he wants freedom of speech, which is kind of what he was playing with, right? And saying, I just want to, I just want to be a part of freedom of speech, but I think we're going to need to see what plays out here. Well, it's certainly a lot better than it was. And that's something that I think people shouldn't lose sight of, you know, it's good and bad, right? Well, there's good and bad, right? It's a different playground.

Yeah. So what's happened is there's been a huge improvement in overall freedom of speech on that platform, people that were being the platform to back on. And, you know, and then he's playing with a few things here and there. For good or bad, it's significant drop in the fuckery. I mean, he's got rid of so many of the bots. There's Jordan Peterson talked about it. There's been a huge reduction in the child sex trafficking shit that was going on on Twitter that was hard to monitor. And Elon came in and just closed that down.

I mean, it doesn't get credit for that. That's a huge fucking deal, people. Like, child abuse is a huge problem. Absolutely. And seeing this California law, this social media law, censorship law, I mean, that kind of stuff is terrifying to think that now state-by-state can control things. I mean, this just happened with TikTok in Montana. Yeah. That's right. You cannot use TikTok in Montana anymore. Could we not download it on a phone? I'd never

tried because I don't want to be on it, but how would it know?- How would it know? I'll have to ask some people that are on TikTok if it's gone through yet. I don't think the bill has actually gone through yet. I think it did pass. Yeah. And so I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you control people's phones, but that's fucked up.

Huh. That's fucked up. You should be able to do whatever you want with your phone. Yeah. Okay. You should be able to look at whatever you want. It's just, it's a scary thought to see these things happening because once they start

happening, it's like with the Patriot Act, once they start looking at all your shit, they're looking at everybody's stuff. They're hard to undo. You can't undo it. You can't undo it. That's a problem. Did you watch the Elon Musk interview,

the BBC interview? No. So that was interesting because it was a kind of unplanned. I guess he was in, I guess he was in, I think he was in London for something and they set up this interview. And it was one of those gotcha interviews where the guy was like, well, what about misinformation and what about these different things? And Elon just calmly just turned it back to him and he's like, what about BBC misinformation? Have you guys ever changed your tune on anything? Of course you have.

I mean, it's an ever-envolving process. And it made the guy, the BBC, I mean, he definitely got flustered. He wanted to skip over some things, Elon really held his feet to the fire. It was a good interview. And I think it highlights the kind of bullshit attacks that are coming his way, you know, all the time. It's just, it seems like media loves to just single someone out and throw shit at them and paint them in whatever like they want, right? Whereas think of all the things they say CNN has done with over COVID, attacking Rogan, all the dumb shit that they've done but they're not one guy. If it was just one guy at CNN, then they could, we could all do the same thing. These news agencies

do it up individuals just point to him and say he said this, he's wrong. Well, we can say CNN did this. They're wrong, but they just move on like it didn't even happen. They never take any responsibility for it. And then it's just like, yep, okay. Well, the pipeline is a perfect example. This pipeline that was that exploded, it says, you know, who was the, excuse me, who was the gentleman who brought that to light, who is now, you know, not getting any sort of play time on any of the networks, whether it's Fox or CNN. who is now, you know, not getting any sort of playtime on any of the networks, whether it's Fox or CNN,

and everyone's just dismissing this, and it's a huge story. I mean, basically what he's saying is we did that on purpose, and we are now at war on purpose, which if you look at history, this is always what happens. We pretend that it's a different reason we're at war, but really we, you know, we want the control and we do things like blow up pipelines to, you know, get oil.

Right. So always. So it's just frustrating and, you know, the positive flip on this, right? And I think that the positive flip, if we want to talk about the cool things that are happening, we've got rumble, we've got things like mines, we've got things like noster, we have new information coming out, but I can't really be stopped. Nope. At least not yet. Yeah. At least not yet. They're trying, but I love the fact that we kind of moving over. I would love Rumble to get a decent chunk of the market share that YouTube has just so YouTube then has to compete with it. Right now YouTube hasn't really had to compete with anybody.

And if they have a competitor that's more free and over. Competition helps. And people are jumping over. Competition is always good. That's how good capitalism runs. It's only when you get these monopolies that things get really squirrely. And I think that's what we've seen with social media too. In a way, it was monopolies. You know, there was just a few companies and they were kind of on the same page. Oh, absolutely. I mean, my brother, so I'll just a story real quick about Facebook and

remind me of how what a monopoly it is My brothers account got hacked into and there was ISIS ads happening on his business page on Facebook and for like two weeks Money was getting stolen from his account, right because it's linked to your PayPal Right, and he was and they they ended up spending like $900 and some dollars on ads for ISIS And he was locked out of his account and they ended up spending like $900 and some dollars on ads for ISIS. And he was locked out of his account. It locked him out of his Instagram as well. And he was unable to talk to a real human

for like a week and a half. He finally got somebody to like, I don't know if they picked up the phone or if it was through email. But essentially with a week and a half, it looked like he was a terrorist, and there was nothing he could do about it. He said he was on the phone a ton,

and it was just, he was just speaking with AI bots and random fake people like you do when you call a bank or whatever. And it's just scary because there's no other options out there, but they're starting to be these other options that I think really need to, you know, we need to get more support for them because things like Facebook are, they're controlling the algorithms and now if you don't spend money on an ad, your shit's not going to get seen.

Well, people have the whole lives connected up with it. They're entire businesses. Just think about it. It's crazy. Thank God he worked for himself and not some corporation that's pretty woke because they would have seen that and they would have been like, you're out. Even if he's like, dude, I didn't do this, I got hacked. It's just quicker to remove them, scary stuff.

I mean, look, Joe brings up AI. He talks about the Joe Rogan AI experience, which now has two episodes talking to the chat GPT guy. Sam, what's the name? Sam, someone. The guy who owns chat GPT. Yeah. And there's no something.

Anyway, we're figured out. And the second episode is Donald Trump. And it's clunky, you know, I mean, it sounds like both of them, but they don't really say anything all that intriguing or very funny. They're just kind of bullet pointing stuff that they would talk about, but it's not going to be long before that is pretty legit. And I'm interested. I mean, Rogan is always pretty chill with stuff like that. There's so many online YouTube video clip people that have hundreds of thousands of subscribers. And all they do is they've just take clips of Joe's show.

Maybe they splice them together, maybe they make funny videos. He doesn't seem too bothered about that. I don't think he likes the clip shows too, too much, only because they have the potential to paint him in a bad light. Yeah, because they can chop it up and re-post things that are maybe that weren't said correctly. Exactly. Kind of like those funny ones they do where they like him and Dr.

Phil. Oh, yeah. And they hate each other. They want to kill each other. I think those ones though, they're so clearly satire. They're so clearly comedy that Joe probably finds those funny. I mean, Aries reposted a few of those because they're pretty good.

But, you know, there's a danger in this. And ultimately, I don't know where Joe will go with that. I think that it's his voice and he's talking to people. I mean, it depends how they define the narrative of those conversations. How will you prove whether you said it or not because it does sound like him. I, that first episode, and it? That's conversations. How will you prove whether you said it or not? Because it does sound like him. I, that first episode, and it was Sam Altman,

who's the very first. Right, Sam Altman, of course. CEO of chatGPT, and now I had never heard Sam talk. So when you hear Sam talk as a, as a AI, I wouldn't know the difference. Dude, I heard him on Lex. When he, he, he sounds exactly like that. Rogan was different because we've heard a lot more of Rogan.

That's what I'm saying. And he has kind of a more fluid podcasting voice. And he's often bringing about jokes and doing different things. But honestly, if this was six months ago, before we knew about any of this technology, I would assume that that's true. Right. You would just think it was kind of a clunky conversation.

But otherwise, I'd be like, yeah, straight up. That's what he sounds like. Yeah, because think it was kind of a clunky conversation, but otherwise I'd be like, yeah, straight up, that's what he sounds like. Yeah, because it's hard to get a motion, right? It was just like question answer, question answer. You're not laughing, you're not, at least not yet. And that's the scary thing because this is just the beginning. And he may have to find a way to close that down. You would think, I mean, you would think there's going to be some new laws that say hey

that you know because it could be used to slander towards him and then how do you prove that whether you said it or not with the worst part is look at how lazy reporting is these days of course there's no investigative journalism almost at all if some news um... site gets a hold of a clip that is an a i of Rogan talking about something.

And one of them thinks that it's valid enough. They put it online or they put it on their show. And what all news agencies do is just kind of like re-process news that's out there. Now all of a sudden it's on four or five shows. How long before he gets ahead of it and he's like, no, I didn't say any of that. That's all bullshit. Right.

I wanna bring back the pipeline thing because it was Seymour Hurst who is an absolute legend in the journalism world. Right, yeah. And, you know, he's been around since the late 60s, established himself as one of America's most courageous investigative journalists. And now he's coming out saying that we blew up

the Nord Stream pipeline. And you're not hearing about this on any other news source, other than like sub-stack right now. Right. And it's scary. Why can't we talk about that? Why is it? They don't want to.

That doesn't, that's not clickbait. That's not good clickbait. That's not good for war is good for profits. We want to be at war. If our government and not only our government, but all these very, very rich human beings are controlling the narrative on, you know, these publications that they own, why would they want to tell the truth? They want to control the narrative and the narrative cannot be controlled with truth. Right? Yeah. It's scary. And the thing is, this has always been happening, right? This has always happened. But now, but now with social media and we've had a lot of practice. So we're really good at this. We're just, we're just trying to figure things out and figure out what's true

and what's not. And it's going to be a long hard road because. What the irony is the government makes the laws, right? And they tell us how to behave because if we break the laws, we got to go to jail. And then they do shit like this. It just seems like bad parenting. Do as I say, not as I do. And it just makes it so difficult to trust in what they're doing. It's like, wait, are they on our side or are they just against us? Well, since the appearance of this story,

it says that the Kremlin has appealed for an international investigation into the attack while Washington has dismissed the narrative as utterly false and complete fiction. Now, if that's the case, cool. Let's do an investigation. Right. There's no harm in it, right? If we're completely innocent.

Right. Seems suspicious. So yeah, it's kind of crazy. And then what did you think I think we should bring up the, what's the thing that's going to go in your brain? Neuralink. Neuralink. Neuralink.

Yeah. Because that was an interesting point. They went on about it for a while. Ottoman and Rogan about how it's kind of like your phone, right? When everyone didn't have phones, you didn't, we weren't thinking, oh, everyone's gonna have a phone in their hand 24-7 and constantly be looking at it. No one thought that that was gonna happen. No one.

Now, think about Neuralink. And I was kind of agreeing with Rogan on this one. Once people start doing it and all of a sudden now we don't need our phones in our hands. There are already in our brains. People are going to do it or else you're just going to be really dumb. You'll be left behind. You're going to be lost. So we're going to be robots. Do you think about your one friend as a flip phone? It's like hard to organize anything with him. He doesn't know, he's not on the group chat. He shows up late to the events. He didn't hear about, you know.

That was me in the past. Yeah, he didn't hear about any of the appointments that we had. Yeah, the pigeon was late to give him the message. That's it. I mean, it's just hard to organize your time that way. And then, you know, imagine you got a flip phone, you can't even go to a fucking restaurant anymore,

you won't get the menu. Yeah. They're like, just scan your thing. And it's like, well, you can't. Well, things change so quickly. Yeah, you know, 10 years ago, nobody was looking at their phones like we are now. Yeah.

Or imagine trying to hold a conversation. You got four people in the group, they've all knurling top, me and you were back and forth just like this. I mean, we've looked up some names on our phones during this podcast, which we forgot. Now it would just be instant. It'd be instant. So it sounds like everyone's a genius.

And you're the one guy in the group, like trying to pull your points together. And that's just like, well, you would literally have to hang out with people who don't have the neurolink installed. Yeah, you'd be idiot. You'd just be the dumbass. Yeah, that's crazy. Let's jump finish up with Jeremy Corbell on the pod, Tex Rogan, and said the government has UFOs. He spoke to somebody,

hype in the government, and they reverse engineering it. Yeah, it just came out. What? Holy shit. Yeah, and well, and now whistleblowers cannot get in trouble according to this new law Autumn and spoke of this new law where whistleblowers if it's just about

Concealing evidence about UFOs specifically, they are now allowed to come out and talk about it without getting punished without you know getting sent to Russia like That's amazing, you know or Argentina like Yeah, who's the other guy? Oh, he's a wiki leaks. Yeah, he's of the Ecuadorian Ecuador Embassy in London, I think yeah, yeah Damn. So yeah, it's coming. Well, here's what gets me is Jeremy's heard that there are high definition close up pictures and footage that the government has. You'd imagine they would.

So instead of all this like scramble shit that we get, it's like really zoomed in, blobby blurry images, there's like real good ones. How long until one of those pictures comes out and how much of a game changes? Well, this actually came out now. So when he was when they were on the pod, Nobel had known about it already and this just came out yesterday Pentagon director reveals new footage of unidentified flying object and it is in high resolution And you can watch it. Yeah, new new UFO video released one day ago. Oh, Shit. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Here we go boys and girls a new f new ufo video released one day ago all the shit

yep yep yep here we go boys and girls we are on the precedence of something very strange whether it's a i or aliens or both alien a i here we go let's get no bell back on and let's get uh... core bell core bell sorry core bell and uh... what's his name do from the 80s who spoke of this. And it was a Lazar.

Lazar, thank you. Lazar needs to come out now that there's this new bill that has passed that you cannot, you can't put whistleblowers in jail if you're talking about UFOs. Well, he's already said everything, but I think he does have some more. He's got to have more because he talked to Rogan afterwards about some things. And I would love to know what that is. So, above lasart 2 would be an amazing podcast. Yeah.

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