Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 331 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Bert Kreischer Et al.

Episode Date: June 4, 2023

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Los enbases del verano Siempre van a la amarillo Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. Got a couple of legendary comedians on this week that we need to talk about Berk Krasher The Christchurcher and his new movie, The Machine, following up with the legendary Andrew Dice Clay. Join us always on my co-host Todd. What's happening? It's a party, people. All right, Todd went to the monster trucks today, so he's pumped.

Let's go. All right, let's go. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience review podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way.

Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead. You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorne. My heat of the worst podcast with the best one. See you. One, go. Enjoy the show. Well, do you still haven't seen the machine? I have you. Not yet. Dude, you got to watch the machine. I've had my kid for the last three days. I don't know. Okay. I'm gonna go. You better go. I'm gonna support comedy. You got to go. I'm going. You got to support it. They were quite a lot of people of the theater when I went. Spirits. Yeah. It was like an early showing. What was it? Maybe?

Hmm. I think it went on a Saturday. So you know, that's a busy day anyway. Big day. But uh, and it was probably rainy. It was. I just don't feel like people go to the movies anymore No, not since the vid the last time I went was Top-Gon 2 Good also good movie and that felt like that felt like I have to watch it there totally worth it There you go. I mean nailed it. I did find this you that one's still pretty damn cheesy. Mm-hmm Pretty damn cheesy, but it's kind of you know, it's like Hmm. Pretty damn cheesy. But it's kind of, you know, it's like, it's supposed to be cheesy. Let me tell you about the machine though. It was fucking great.

Now, obviously you could say there's a bias. I'm a big fan of birth. But I'm also a big fan of movies that are enjoyable. And I really didn't know. I mean, he's, you know, he's not like an A-list actor. Right. Per se. So I was like, I don't know if he could pull it off, of course, but that's different, right? Being a standup is different than like nail in a movie. Maybe, but like standups

know how to act to look at Eddie Murphy. I mean, come on Beverly Hills cop. Let's go. Yeah, but you're saying that like every standup knows how to do it. Eddie Murphy was something very different. You know, you're right. Think like Adam Salas been he's a legend and he's been making a I would say a pile of dog shit comedy movies He's hit her mess. I mean Billy Madison's legend. Yeah, the old ones were great, but yeah, you're right It's hit her mess, but I would I would say that I would I would think that most most really good comics are gonna be good actors I would say that I would think that most really good comics are going to be good actors. I would think. Yeah, but it is the movie also going to be good. I mean, there were just a lot of factors that I was like, I don't know if they could pull

it off. Maybe I like some bits, maybe some bits would be over the top. What do you give me? What do you give me? Dude, it was fucking brilliant. It's one of the best comedies I've seen in a good amount of time. Give it many, many years. Nine out of ten, Cisco?

I don't really rate things that way, but yeah, I'll give it, I'll watch it again. Okay. You know, better than Top Gun 2. Well, for different reasons. There was no boobs, no boobies. At least, Bert was a little upset about that towards the end.

I wish there was some boobies. No boobs. Not gonna lie, but maybe it's not the time. I love how he was like, guys, I think we fucked up. We didn't throw any titties in there. Like Rodney Dangerfield styled in the 80s. Like, let's say some boobs and then he didn't his director or producer be like, no, dude, we don't do that anymore. I love what he's talking about the kissing scene though. He's like, yeah, I got to make out with this

chick for like three days straight. Yeah. well, what's interesting is no spoiler, but when you see that scene, it's like, I expected it to be way different than it was, too. It was like just like, it was supposed to be funny or it was just like a small kiss. The way he set it up, I just imagined it almost being like a love scene, but it was just like a welcome home.

I love you scene, you know, it was, anyway, so many great points. The fucking comedy on it was just non-stop. It was really. Yeah, it was brilliant. Even with all the Russian speaking dude, people like that just made it more funny. Even the like comedy action in it is really fucking good. Like they just nailed it. Cool. I mean it would just highly produced, right? You know they have money for it because they had some like pretty elaborate scenes which was like, yeah, spot on.

And then what's his name, Mark Hamill? Good old Luke Skywalker was brilliant. Their chemistry between the two of them is fantastic. Point is, if you haven't seen it, get the fuck out there, watch it. I'm gonna go watch it. Don't be that guy. All right, well, what do you got in your notes here

with Mr. Kreischer? He's always a blessing to just hear. Well, other than he came in his pants for kissing that girl. Well, he said he needed some tape. He needed to do the old turnaround tuck up, the old tattoo. No, he said he needed a wardrobe change. He straight up had to do it. I love how honest he is. Even if it's like, you know, slightly weird, bless him, you've got to love that he's,

he's just like never changed. What an absolute animal. And to think, I don't know how all these now, he's got to be in his 40s. what an absolute animal. And to think, I don't know how all these now, he's got to be in his 40s. Mint 40s. Right, sure. Right, sure. Mint 40s, right?

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He might be. But, but, cigar, Tom is Segerl is only 43. So Segril is like pretty much our age, which I did not realize. I thought Segril was older. Huh.

Yeah. Yeah. I knew he was a little bit younger. Anyway, I mean, look, there's a couple of things that's happened here. So really, this movie is about Berkreicher, for sure. It's like the story of his life plus a fictional part at the end that they make into most of the movie.

But it's like a recap. That's how they did it. Of what actually happened. Of like him, right? You know, and they add some narrative. But this isn't the first movie that people have made about Berkkraisha because loosely based on him

was Van Wilder, which was with Ryan Reynolds. That's for real. Yeah, so basically as far as I understand it, Rolling Stone magazine bought his story rights because he was just a legendary party at Florida State.

Okay. And then I think it was subcontracted or bought again by national lampoons and they're the ones that produced the movie that Ryan Reynolds was in. But yeah, that was supposed to be about him. Well, just the young kids who haven't seen Van Wilder and have no idea what we're talking about. I mean, I watched that movie probably 50 times when I was in college. It's so good. It's so good.

It's so good. Yeah. All right, so I just looked this up. The real life van Wilder, this is from the New York post, May 19th, 2014. You said it was in Rolling Stone first, though? I thought so, yeah. Anyways, well, this is obviously a lot older.

So it says Bert Kreischer, who majored in partying during his six years in college. Six years. Love that. Is the source material for the 2002 fratcom national ampune fanweller. There you go. Wow. Well, do anything national ampunes made. It's amazing. There is one of my favorite magazines from back in the day. Oh, yeah. They were fun. Have you seen the movie about the actual? So there's two movies about national ampunes, which was a magazine that started based off of a Harvard magazine called the lampoon. Right. It wasn't it? A lot of SNL guys. Well,

eventually, eventually, it was like Chevy Chase. So, so, so, so, so, SNL basically stole all the guys that were part of national ampoun and that kind of broke everybody up. Right. And then they did. So it was a magazine and then they were doing all their own comedy bits and then Lauren Michaels came along and noticed what was happening and he basically took everyone and paid them more I think. According to the movie, poached them and because it was Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, you know, Dan Acroid,

view others, the guy that's in, you know, they they did animal house was their first movie, right, which was a smash it. Dude, it was so good. The nerdy dude at the end who doesn't really talk with the glasses, who's like walking into a wall when they do the parade, you remember that nerdy guy? Yeah, he's the He's the fucking founder of National Impounds. Oh, no shit. Yeah, and he ended up committing suicide in Hawaii after a catty shack bombed. Catty shack was not a cult classic

until years after it came out. It first came out and it fucking bombed. And he went on, he went on a frickin' bender in Hawaii. They talk about it in the movie so if you haven't seen it we're getting a little off track no no I sit but I've seen I have seen that there's two of them though there's like a there's like a remake of what actually happened with real actors but there's one that came out before it that's actually like a documentary about

the actual people the people yeah I saw that one make better I didn't see the actual doc is better okay okay and they talk about the that one make better. I didn't see the actual doc is better. Okay. And they talk about the suicide and everything else because I don't think they go into that with the with the other one with the Hollywood remake. No, they didn't. Yeah. They didn't. But crazy story, dude. Those guys were freaking amazing. That's kind of wild. That um, Caddy Shack wasn't a big a hit early on. It's such a good movie. Yeah. I mean, um, Bill Murray's un personaje de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de los de por delante y tú estas ahí dan tranquila a tus cosas como si te deseo de igual como posible vamos que tú vas a trabajar no estás lleno a dónde va a estar tan contenta a dónde llega al

mejor momento del año llegan tus vacaciones este uno de julio sorteo extraordinario de vacaciones de lotería nacional con 20 millones aún decimos lo terías de recuerda que juegas con responsabilidad y solo sieres mayor de edad. And it might be one of those things too, like maybe in a sense, the comedy itself was out so out there. It was like, sometimes these things are a little headed at that time. And it takes a minute for people to catch up. They also talk about how the producers and the directors were kind of tried to take over a lot. And Chevy and all these guys were just

high as fuck on Coke the entire time. And during the production of it, and the producers were really adamant about putting that stupid little gerbil in there, which is kind of cute and fun and whatever, but and I'm spacing the dudes name. Oh, it wasn't like a fucking ground heart. Yeah, yeah.

That was not supposed to be in there. And it really pissed off the, I'm spacing again, the guy's name has started National Ampoule and won the co-founders, but it pissed him off. He's again, the guy's name has started National Ampune and won the co-founders, but it pissed him off. He's like, I don't want this. This is too kiddish and silly and you know, it's gonna ruin the movie.

I think having the little girlfriend there, whatever, either way, it's an amazing movie, but it didn't need to be in it. No, the characters were like, the characters made it. Yeah, they were completely out of their mind. But anyway, that van wilder story is cool. I didn't realize it was based off of Bert's key. Yeah, that's a good movie. I think that was the first time I saw Ryan Reynolds in anything. And I was like, this guy's fucking hilarious. I think that was his first movie. Yeah. Absolutely hilarious. He crushed it. Write that down. Write that down. Yeah.

Write that down. It's so good too that book comes on. And, you know, again, this is another example of like credit that Rogan never likes to take. Because Bert said, you know, I love you more. You know, you'll never love me as much as I love you. Like that, that's just burping, but Rogan's like, shut the fuck up dude, I love you the same. We's just burping but yeah, Rogan's like shut the fuck up dude. I love you the same We're both good friends, right? But

He would have never said that story on stage Until he came on Rogan's podcast and said it and Rogan just said you have to start Yeah saying that was like the 73rd Rogan Yeah, like they were still in the bad room and you know, what's not about that is it became a huge part of his act. It always will be because it's such an unusual story. People want to hear it forever. And now it's a fucking movie. I mean, it's literally that advice literally changed bird's life. Yeah. Well, right off the bat,

they start talking about how your friends should be better than you. I love that. It's like, if you're not, what is it? The rising tide raises all boats, right? Yeah. And definitely surround it. They don't have to be better than you, you know? They just have to, they, they just have to fucking be really good friends that are that care about you.

The one to bring you up as much as you want to bring yourself up and vice versa. Absolutely. That's what these guys all did. They all supported each other. Even Joe was like, yeah, I've been very fortunate, but I couldn't and wouldn't have wanted to do this journey without bringing my friends along. I mean, he's probably made what? Like a dozen of his friends,

millionaires. Super famous, yeah. Yeah. Well, and he talked about it towards the end. Rogan was talking about how he's just not a jealous person and jealousy is such a weird thing at a very young age when he was jealous, when he was in the ring, you know, and, you

know, kickboxing and doing karate or whatever else he was doing early on. Tyquando. Tyquando, thank you. He would get really jealous of people and get pissed off and this and that. For whatever reason, he learned very early at like 15, 16, 17 years old that this is not helping me. And I should be excited for these people. And it really shows in this personality.

And that's why it drives me nuts when everyone, not everyone, but when I tell people we do this podcast and they go, oh, Joe Rogan, this and that and the other thing, I'm like, have you ever listened to the guy? You have no clue. This guy is such a selfless badass. I don't want to hear it. I really don't know many people that have a lot of exposure to listening to Rogan that also talk shit

about like his character and who he is. Maybe sometimes they pick some points politically, especially through COVID. Minus the COVID stuff though. What are you gonna talk shit about? Well, exactly. But some people have like now labeled him as like a certain way of ideology

so they're like getting suspicious. But I also notice in those people that they have really connected themselves hardcore with like one political ideology or another. So it's like, when you do that, they're always looking for anyone that this is. Well, you're just not open-minded. It's not a good way of thinking. And Joe was so open-minded.

Yeah, it's not a good way of thinking. And the people that just kind of blow him off is like, oh, he's just, you know, that guy with the podcast that does the fighting and the comedy, it's like, okay, but, you know, you've probably never even heard one podcast he's been on. Yeah, it's not even worth going there really. Those people are dumb. What about, so there's a few things I wrote down here. I wrote a lot down on this one, but I loved how

Bert's talking about how his energy is just too much sometimes for the Europeans. Like they didn't even have a name for this unpredictable explosive person. Like that's all they could do to explain him is that he's unpredictable. He's explosive. They don't know what he's going to do. There's really no slaying talk in Russian. Yeah.

And so they just a wild animal. So what was it There's really no sling talk in Russian. Yeah. And so they're telling him. So what was it, one of the ladies that's in the film, here's this from her coworkers or whatever, and she's like scared to do a scene with him because they told her he's unpredictable, explosive, you know, just don't know what he's gonna do. And that's what makes him burr. That's why we love him and you know the same reason why he's in the front row at his own movie

Cracking up crying the entire time and instead of doing red carpet at the first show and he's like fuck that We're not doing red carpet. I'm gonna sit with the audience. I'm gonna fucking drink beer with them I'm gonna bong beer with them. I'm gonna eat popcorn with them. We're gonna hug it out. Who else does that, man? Yeah, love that guy. You know, it's very Hollywood to be like, you gotta show up late, make a big entrance.

You know, look cool. Everyone's already been there. But just immediately was like, no, this is like my one time, maybe. I'm sure I get more movies, but this is his big moment. For him to get that early, they were ax throwing. They had an ax throwing set up at the red carpet. And you know he got hammered.

His shirt came off probably 50 times. I also love all the videos on his Instagram right now where he is just going to watch that movie randomly at loads of different places. Yes. And just hanging out with the crowd and watching. So give her a hand, dude. So cool.

That's the way to really fucking do it. Well, he's did say he bumped in Edward Norman, right? So I saw I saw Edward Norman at least once in Santa Monica. He has a dope ass Tesla. And, you know, he's quite a quiet guy. He's like, really solid actor. And, you know, he's quite a quiet guy. He's like really solid act and you know, he's he's just different than bud Yeah, and he's a method actor exactly. Yeah, so bud meets him and he's freaking screaming and being a lunatic and yeah, he's just He freaks people out, but how can you not love that? I know, I mean, I get it. Yeah.

I get it. I'd party with him. So what else do we got? Oh, the World War One story about the soldiers having a ceasefire. Do you remember them talking about that? Yeah, Rogan's talked about that before. They had to go kill the wolves.

They had to keep fighting because the generals told them they had to fight, but they, you know, the Germans were singing silent night with American soldiers. This is World War I, not to do. No, but I think that that was a different story. No, but they played soccer together. Yeah, yeah, but there's, so there were two major cease-fives. The one they were talking about was Russia and Germany. Oh, it was Russia and Germany.

It wasn't Christmas day. It was because there were so many wolves that they were basically attacking troops. So they had to take a break and shoot all the wolves. And then there's another, yeah, it was crazy, dude. I mean, there's a reason we've wiped a lot of wolves out in all different parts of the world because they're freaking

Super killers. Yeah, what do you think red writing her came from don't go into the woods? I mean that was a story to help kids stay safe But there's another famous story between the British and the Germans Where on Christmas day people started singing and even though the words are different in Germany, everyone could tell what it was. From the beat, yeah. But Silent Night, you know, just kind of the cadence of it. And then I assume, and I've seen kind of like

reenactments done of this in like different movies, they like to allude to it because it's a good story. They would come out of the trenches or one of them did on the one side and then they just played soccer for the day. Like, it's awesome. That's kind of fucking beautiful, right? I mean, but also really sad because the next day they have to go back to just killing each other again. It's well, or their generals are telling them that if they don't kill each other, I will

kill you. Yeah. And these kids are 18. So fuck dude. It's crazy. How about Huberman? I don't remember Huberman saying that nicotine is actually good for you. So it makes me feel good that I have us in in my mouth right now. There we go. What's it been?

A bit of a miniaturopick. So just nicotines okay for you. I thought it's still like, shrink your, gave you high blood pressure and made your, gosh, what? What's a bit of a stimulant. So yeah, like caffeine, it's probably revenue up a little bit. You know, if you don't give you high blood pressure,

I don't think so. Okay. I mean, maybe. But if Cuba man is saying, hey, it keeps you stimulated and it's a bit of a new tropic. I mean, you know, it's just been tied to the backo for so long that they almost can't undo the studies with it. Because it's always an issue that when you're seeking out nicotine, you might end up smoking, which is, no, that's bad.

I know that's bad for you, no, that's bad. I wish it was good for you. Yeah, maybe they can make supplement cigarettes in the future. Just vitamins, minerals, make you stronger. As long as they're vitamins. You can fly. I, it was interesting to hear about Bert's dad and we talked about this earlier before the show about the age and the age of

Burton. It kind of confused me because he was talking about the Iraq war and how he didn't understand war. He must have been what? Maybe 15 or something. And his dad's telling him he's an idiot for saying that the Iraq war is stupid and he like sends him to his room. You know, Bert freaks out. he's like, why am I an idiot? What the hell, what's going on? And then his dad brings him back down and Bert's trying to figure out why am I an idiot, dad. Like, what's up with this word?

He's like, no, you don't understand this war is on TV. This is awesome. This is like, we're able to watch war now. This is cool. We're gonna watch it together. That was a strange story. Yeah. I remember seeing a lot of that,

so that was the goal for, right? That was the first one. Yeah, it was 90s. And at no point, even though it's like, yeah, it clearly was like an action movie, but I was not enjoying seeing that as a 10-year-old. Absolutely. I'm like this.

We're like, we're pretty sure watching people die. And I- And bombs go off. I did not. We enjoy that. It's horrifying. No. I want to see that in movies.

I don't want to really see that in real life. That's a bit much. A bit much. And interestingly enough, they don't, I mean, we don't see a lot of footage of the Ukraine stuff going on. I mean, you can kind of see it online, but the news isn't really playing a lot, of course not.

I mean, they, it is like the days of putting war on the news, not, not a thing now. No, it's not, but, but there's that site that Rogan talks about a lot, that you can watch cell phone footage of people at war. That's wild. Yeah, that's a bit depressing. I don't recommend it. Can't do it. No, no.

Let's just not even get any of that, please. All right, what else we got? I don't know, drinking out of your shoes might be good for your gut by own. I don't think it is. Didn't book it in infection. Yeah. Yeah.

Clearly you're going to get a throat infection from that one. I'm honestly the biggest thing that I got out of this one. I love listening to Bert. He cracks me up. He's just such a happy fun guy. He clearly is extremely grateful for Joe and his friendships. And really that first thing they talked about, they kind of brought it back at the end. Just talking about how jealousy is such a horrible thing to have and how, you know, we'll get

into this with the dice clay talk, how comics back in the day were jealous of each other and they try to, they try to, you know, one up each other and really fuck people up like the guy came on when dice first came on to the Dangerfield special, the comic special for his first outing, there was that other famous guy who'd already been on the special before who wore a leather jacket on purpose. That's kind of stuff's not happening anymore. No. Yeah, jealousy doesn't serve you very well. But I think Rogan has so much to do with that.

I mean, like you said earlier, he has brought in all of his comic buddies and now they're all making millions of dollars and they're all sharing each other's happiness and they're on each other's podcast. It's great to see. It's the GoGiver mentality. It really is. Well, let's jump over to dice because we're pretty much there with that story anyway. I mean, look, dice has been around since the beginning, not the beginning, but like he

started before. Road in Rogue. Yeah. Rogue in was, no, oh, 89. 89 is when he, well, let's see, I have it in my notes. When he went on the special, his first outing, his first, you know, show was on the Dangerfield special, which was in, you know, weekly special. I don't know what station that was on, whether it was ABC or whatever. The young comics. Okay, it was called. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure that was 1988. Okay. Because Rogan is talked about it a lot where he, and he talked about it on this, like listening to dice in his car with his girlfriend, and they were both cracking up. You know, so he's obviously been a big inspiration for Rogan and many other comics. He was legendarily popular. I mean, the stadium tour that he said he went on, like being able to sell out half a million tickets in a weekend, that is almost unheard of today. I would imagine it is.

Well, yeah, I mean, if you look at Eddie Murphy, who is the biggest comic at that time, or right before him, he was selling out 7,000 seat venues. Yeah. Dice was selling out 20,000. That's insane. Seat venue. Plus, right? Yeah. And he, well, he took that ad out. That was one of my favorite parts of this show. He took an ad out in Variety magazine. This is back in the day when everyone read magazines. Right. He took out a full page ad. He said, it said, Eddie and prior are great,

but in 88, you'll be shouting dice. And then the show aired two days later. That danger field special. Wow. That's a small move. Well, I mean, it could have crushed, it could have not worked at all if he hated him. Yeah. But yeah, it was a role of the dice. have not worked at all if he hated him. Yeah.

But yeah, it was a role of the dice. He had to do it. What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do?

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What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? What do you think he had to do? when MTV was firing him and he's like, trust me, I'm gonna be the biggest thing in the world. Like that takes some polls to say, right? I mean, yeah, but it almost manifests itself if you believe that about yourself, it works. How the fuck can you believe that about yourself though? That's a good thing.

He knew he was good. He knew he was good and it was just an act. That's what kills me. And you know, you and I chatted about this last week knew he was good. Yeah. He knew he was good and it was just an act. That's what kills me. And you know, you and I chatted about this last week about how it's a persona, right? Dice is a persona. It's not the real Andru Dice Clay. He's not like how he acts.

He's not really super brody. He's as softy. He's sweet. He freaking cried on the podcast. It was a beautiful. It was wonderful. Yeah. Rogan even had to remind him, hey, it's great that you did that. I don't think that's weak. That's great. He really just likes to be the guy that did it first and he had so many first in his career, right? Yeah, and also a lot of you got to remember a lot of comics back then were characters.

So a lot, you got to remember a lot of comics back then were characters. You know, in a way, they played, absolutely played a character on stage. I mean, look, Eddie Murphy was very much Eddie Murphy, but he was also wearing like Michael Jackson's leather. You know what I mean? Eddie Murphy Ross, such a good, such a good fucking show. There's so much of that kind of behavior, but just standard. But there is no way Eddie Murphy, who at the time was the most brilliant comic, if not of all time, I think Eddie Murphy is the most brilliant comic of all time in my mind. Other than maybe Shapel, but I'm saying back then he was the biggest in the

best. I think he was way better than Dice, and I love Andrew Dice Clay. But I'm just not, you know, at the time it was great. But if you look back in my mind dice is not as Evergreen as Eddie was like I can go back and listen to Eddie and still laugh my ass off I go back and listen to dice. I'm like yeah, dude. I heard that but There's no way Eddie Murphy would have done the day the laughter died But there's no way Eddie Murphy would have done the day the laughter died. There is no fucking way he would have gone and bombed on purpose to make an act. And dice had this different, he just had this quality about him that just did not give

a flying fuck. Yeah. And that's what made him brilliant. But really, that's not even a knock on Eddie because almost no one would do that. No, but that's what I'm saying. And Eddie would do that today. Rogan wouldn would do that. No, but that's what I'm saying. And Eddie would do that today. Rogan wouldn't do that. But then you have all these other comics

where Hayden undies and he talks about it. He talks about how Leno was giving him shit. Carlin was giving him shit. And he'd get in their face to be like, you guys fucking suck. Fuck you. Don't sit here and hate on me in the press. And then when you see me in person, pretend like, oh, I'm so sorry.

I did this. That actually surprised me. It didn't surprise me that Leno did it, but it surprised me that Carlin would give him shit. And he said it over and over how Eddie Murphy was the only person who was like, dice, don't let those motherfuckers get you down. I love you, dude.

You're the man. Well, you know why? Because with Eddie, then probably how he figured it out was the Cosby was always on his case. Oh right. Cause he wasn't clean.

Yeah, and he, and he would be like, don't say this, don't say like like he had this right to talk to Eddie and supposedly Eddie called a prior and called prior. Yeah, and prior was like basically just said something like, you know, tell him go fuck himself and have a diet coke or something like that. The saying was just about Cosby. Cosby, yeah. He basically prior was like, be you dude.

We all know Cosby sucks now. Well, but he was great at the time. Eddie's ripped on him pretty well, let's be honest, like legendary. But you know, I think you have to go through those types of things. You know, in the same way Joe saw it clearly, he realized that, oh, wait, this kind of attitude is not helping me.

This is not going to make me better and bringing these other people up. Like, it's such an unusually small community. How many headlining comedians are there? Like way less than there are surgeons. Yeah. So they should stick together. And now what they're so many of them have seen and learned, this whole new generation is like,

oh, we can all bring each other up. Rise together. And we all get better. It's not like there's only five tickets to be sold and you've got to sell them all. It's like like there's only five tickets to be sold and you've got to sell them all. It's like everyone can sell them. Everyone can do good. And, you know, I think because Dice is a sweetheart, he was probably always there, but it was, it was painful for him to hear that. I felt bad. I felt bad for him. I mean, it just seemed like he spent an entire 10 years

of his life just even more just getting hated on by all these people that he looked up to and we're supposed to be kind of similar and to understand him as a comic. You would think these people, again, especially somebody like Carlin. Carlin wasn't, Carlin wasn't clean. I mean, he wasn't dice, but you know, he was saying, fucking shit and doing whatever he wanted. I think it was just a really jealousy there.

It was like trained into them. It was cutthroat. There were just a few late-married spots. And those are the ones that turned into movies. All those are the ones that turned into the big breaks. And you know, they basically just had to hate on each other because they were just so few avenues. And that's what it seems like it was. I'm just glad the comedy isn't there anymore, you know? And now it's driven mostly through these clubs, like Rogan's new club, the comedy store,

there's camaraderie, people stick together. And, you know, occasionally people get weeded out if they're just not, not holding that integrity of who they are. You know, if you get a few people coming in that are new big comics that don't want to support others, they're just not going to be in that group. And good. I say, well, I think, I think the coolest thing about dice is that he always had a plan for himself. He always knew At least according to what he's saying. I Doesn't seem like he's a liar at all. He tells the truth about everything as far as I can tell

That's the beauty of most comics, right? It's like You tell the truth you and we should probably play the clip actually What is that? Number one, I just think, you know, we've been so held back now, like comedians for the most part, are just being held back, because comedians, as Lenny Bruce put it, and I don't even study comics, we're supposed to be a mirror of what's going on in the world and say things what's going on in a funny way. That's all comedy supposed to be.

Depending on how hard you want to get about it, well, that's up to the actual individual comic. But to put cuffs on comedians in 2023 is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Well, this is the time where it's important to make fun of things because things get real serious. Yeah. That shouldn't get that serious. Yeah, they do. And it's always going to be a problem for comedy, right? I don't think this is anything new

You know Lenny Bruce was just crushed and sued and you know, they were arresting Things that you're saying all right. We're not arresting comedians today With desperately trying that people are desperately trying to cancel them which is shocking Yeah, but look what happened to Shepel He's talking about his friend on stage and he's getting attacked because people don't even understand that he's not anti-Semitic, he's not anti-trans, but people think he is

because of one of his bits, and he's actually talking about a friend of his. Yeah, this isn't a corporate job, guys. Duh. It's supposed to be funny. You're supposed to be talking about stuff that happens in mainstream media, in our lives, and you're supposed to make fun of it and make light of it. I think that those people should just not watch comedy.

If you're going to get upset at stuff like this, yeah, don't watch it. Or watch different comedians, only watch clean ones, but why should everyone behave the way that you want? Again, can we bring this back to Bill Cosby? He was clean. Look at him. Yeah. He's a piece of shit.

So, what is that? Where's that go? That guy sucks. Yeah. So, yeah, but yeah, don't watch it. I mean, whatever. I was watching Eddie Murphy Raw at 12 years old with my father.

He's like, don't tell your mom. We're watching Eddie Murphy tonight. Oh, it was so good. I remember sitting I was watching Eddie Murphy Raw at 12 years old with my father. He's like, don't tell your mom. We're watching Eddie Murphy tonight. Oh, it was so good. I remember sitting down and watching Eddie Murphy Raw for the first time and just reiterating those stories like what's a gooney Google Gus? What the fuck is a gooney Google Gus? Like I just thought it was the funniest thing and yeah, maybe I shouldn't watch that at 12 That was probably a little young. Actually, I was probably like 10. So yeah, too young to watch that.

But maybe at the same time. But look, you're fine. I'm fine. Yeah, you didn't grow up to be like a frickin' psychopath. I don't think the effects of these things are, dude, my baby sister had me watch Chuckie at like eight. That's way worse. Way worse, dude.

Way worse, violence. Violence. Night worse. Way worse. Way worse. Violence. Violence. Night mass. I was scared of dolls. Yeah, I mean, I remember watching Friday the 13th at like eight because my brother was 12, you know, of course his friends were watching it at 12. Scared the shit out of me.

Felt to me out. But you know, I thought about the boogey man and all these things. It's like, listen to any Murphy. I wasn't scared. I thought it was funny, even though I didn't really understand it. Pick up a few words and say fuck shit. Yeah, that bit that he does with his ice cream. I got my ice cream.

I mean, like a 10 year old would crack up watching that. Even if you didn't get a lot of the other references, he had so many bits in there that were perfect. I want to talk a little bit though about the day the laugh that died and the fact the Rick Rubin was involved in it. Now, what kind of special human being is he to just like be around these like cultural moments in history that are so valuable. He's like he just shows up, he's a part of it, and he just feels his way through it and helps people make. Well he understood it. He understood it. He understands. Rick Rubin is a special kind of producer

that understands talent, right? He knew that dice was fucking with people and he thought it was hilarious because he's because Rick Rubin understands comedy. He just, and then it's funny because it, you know, you can hear him laughing in the background. I know, like when it's coming back, it's like he's laughing out loud.

Yeah, well, they talk, he talks about it when he was on Rogan. He talked about how it was him and his buddy, I can't remember his buddy's name, who was in there, I don't know if he was one of the producers as well, but he was in the back also laughing his ass off. And they were the only two laughing in the entire thing. And then the guy walks out and goes, you're about as funny as a glass of milk. And it's just dead. It's just dead. That's such a fucking like 80s

heckle too. Right. Yeah. Good one. But yeah. Get the fuck out of here. That's grandpa. But the best part is someone like Rick Rick Geffen, who is an amazing record producer also. And you know, started Geffen records was on you know What was it Columbia before then it's had a Columbia then started Geffen you know has such an amazing List of some of the most talented people in the world on his you know resume and Part of his the records that he put out he didn't even get it part of his, the records that he put out, he didn't even get it. Mitzi didn't get it.

Yeah. Mitzi was like, Andrew, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, you're ruining your career. You will ruin your career in a geek. He's like, Mitzi, you don't understand. I'm doing this. But it makes sense. I don't think many people could have.

I think it makes sense for him. I think if Rogan had been there, maybe if Rogan was in the back, let's just say he was you know, closer to Dyson's age and they were tight and they came up together. If if Rogan was back there, maybe if he saw Rick Rubin laughing, he'd be like, okay, there might be something here. But there's another part of him. I don't think Rogan would encourage another one of his friends to make an hour plus that bombs when you're that big. Right.

But this is, but that's not a knock on anyone. I, because I don't think that anyone could see what it was in the moment. It wasn't until later that, that these comedians go back and watch it and they're like, wow, we know how much of an unusual risk that is and we fucking like praise you for it. Yeah, it's incredible because it's bad ass. It's incredible. And he was doing it on purpose. That's the best part and no one knew he was doing it on purpose.

He was just fucking with people. It would be so wild if Chappelle just decided to do it. Yeah, he'd kill it, that would be great. But you got to think too, at that time, Rick Rubin, this is 1989, I mean, I don't even think had Aerosmith come out with Run DMC yet. I don't know. I mean, everyone thought that was a dumb idea

and look at that, how that blew up. I mean, that basically brought hip hop to the mainstream. Yeah. And Rubin understood it, Rubin understood that the Beastie boys were the fucking shit. And no one else thought they were. They were like, who are these three idiot white kids singing about girls and, you know,

just idiotic stuff. And they're not rappers, they're white. No one got it. And they're the biggest fucking, one of the biggest rappers though. Well, they were more punk rock. Right right because they did the party, you know Yeah, but it was still it was still hip-hop. It was just a different kind of hip-hop It was white boy hip-hop

Which everyone was making fun of and then what did that bring then you got vanilla ice then of obviously M&M I mean there's a few others but like it was kind of like vanilla ice was the next one And he had a one hit wonder basically. Yeah, but I mean the Beastie boys are timeless Oh, yeah, one of the best bands of all time so good, but Ruben saw that Yeah, the CD ill communication is yes, it's the first one. It's beyond amazing Yeah, I remember going down to my brother's room every time he left the house, I was in third grade and I would go down and I would listen to the ill communication tape.

And that was my introduction to hip hop. Fucking tapes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, just, it was surprising to me to hear the Rick was there because I'm like, I didn't, you know, he's a music guy, obviously, but he just came in for this thing and in like, in a way he seemed to have encouraged dice to do this more than anything. And it wasn't, you know, it probably got him a shitload of press.

He was still selling out arenas. I wonder how, you know, because he, he did drop off. Like, let's be honest, he's not selling out arenas today. He still does fine. I'm sure he's doing videos on fucking YouTube. Yeah, those are funny though. So funny. Very funny. Because no one knows who he is anymore.

Uh-huh. And he just pretends like, hey, you want to picture with me? Like, it's so good, though. How many hits are those actually getting? Like, they're getting millions of views. Oh, yeah, people watching that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's very, very funny stuff. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's, it's like eventually that kind of character did kind of die out somewhat. Um, I didn't know he did all that dancing too.

You see some of those videos? Him and Rogen, he was like doing Elvis, like pretty good job. He was doing like Greece and all right. Yeah, singing along to that. And like he said that he enjoyed that more than stand up. Like he was just an entertainer performer. I mean, he's so good. I mean, that, but again, he's always been an entertainer and they bring it around at the end about how the producer of entourage brought him back in. He was on the last, what was it? Episode of the last season. I don't know who he played in that. I don't remember that, but he's been- You watched that show? I used to like Contourage, but I don't remember Dice being an entourage.

So when he talked about that, I felt stupid because I was thinking, man, I've seen a lot of entourage. Well, maybe you didn't watch the last season. Maybe not. I should see that show. I think I've just seen clips. But I mean, clearly, he's always been an actor. I mean he's just an act and he's a good actor too He's played some like powerful dramatic pieces in in stuff too, which is

Yeah, he's an unusual character man. I mean he's he's the real fucking deal He's seen the highest highs Probably some like real lows in there when there was a time You know the People were like where's he? You know what I mean after and that's just hate no Yeah, I'm just hating on him for no reason. I think he's a womanizer and a dick and and all that when really he's not It's the persona of dice He's just an act.

We're going to leave comedians alone. Just an act. Let them be. Let them be actors. What's the worst thing that they can possibly do? If you just leave them alone, do you really think with all the fucked up things in the world, all the bad influences, all the insider political trading and corporate nonsense and governments fucking going war with each other.

What we have to worry about is stand up comedians telling jokes that you don't like. Amen, baby. Please God. Let's go. I think on that, we're call it. Love ya. Get preachy. Thanks guys.

We appreciate ya as always and go watch the machine, motherfuckers. There you go. Peace out. Later.